Chael Sonnen Is Too Stubborn To Admit That He's Wrong
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- Опубліковано 1 лис 2023
- In this video I react to a debate between Ariel Helwani and Chael Sonnen. They debate whether or not Francis Ngannou won in the end in regards to him leaving the UFC for boxing and free agency. I believe that at this point it is undeniable that Francis did win, but Chael Sonnen can't accept it. What do you guys think? Let me know in the comments.
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Chael literally punked him at the end lmao. This has to be one of the most entertaining interviews I've ever seen
Chael was right an even if he wasn’t ariel is a slimey rat and so he had it comin karma mate
@@sumstuff6956 He sure is. I discovered that with the whole Dricus thing. Ariel seems to have convinced himself that it is his feelings for Francis that made him feel like everything was on the line for that fight and not his massive disdain for the UFC. That's some powerful delusion man.
@@sumstuff6956even though I hate that a weak man like ariel spoke to chael that way talking about punk this and tell me to my face that I also have to agree that chael is the biggest company man out there and has his agenda when it come sto defended any sentiment that dana white has, chael is simply the parrot sitting on the shoulder of the pirate dana white at this point so again while I don't pie ariels attitude I also understand that chael is also a weasel, rat & a sold out company man.
Go live 👍
Good breakdown
Chael Sonnen has never lost a round 🙏
Undefeated, undisputed
He yaps too much
Keep glazin'
Chael 🐐
Undefeated and unbeatable 😅😅😅😅
Not talking about this altercation, but Ariel is such a weasel it's pathetic how he treated Dricus and Jamal Hill.
To be fair
Ariel was a rat but people forget that DDP literally lied in an Ariel interview but the fans don't mention it cuz they are biased against Kamaru and especially Adesanya
He discredit's Kamaru, Francis and Izzy and says they are no africans and then in an interview with Ariel he was like:,,I never said that😱"
He’s done it for years nick diaz was the first to say he needs a slap rampage anyine real hates the vile liar coward race grifter ariel and Yano he’s tried to cry racism anti semetism against uncle chael for dissing his nose total wanker
@@That-One-Spy-Mainhe didn’t say they wasn’t African he said I’m gonna be the first real African champion representing and fighting outta Africa and there’s a reason people hate Marty fake snoozeman and cringe lord Izzy let’s start with Izzy being a racist bastard ? U crying over ddp apparently lyin to scumbag ariel but fail to mention Izzy being a racist ? So stunning and brave usman the same he never in Africa an Izzy the country slut the chinaman represents china and New Zealand he only wears the African badge when it suits so yeah Izzy n fake snoozeman hated for a reason brah imagine if ddp called cringe lord izz the N word yall be up
In arms but black privelidge allows Izzy to racially abuse somebody and nobody says shit apart from
Peoples champ strictland
This tells me everything I need to know about soy Lucas he watched this argument and got angry at wait for it CHAEL no anger towards the slimey rat gonna stick to real people like the guru and red pill mma this is clearly a soy mma channel
@@sumstuff6956if that makes you stop watching, doesn't that make you soy?
Tbf, if Ariel was really friends Chael, you don’t try to drop your friends pants like that on live video. Sure tease him about it but Ariel wanted to embarrass Chael. Who is going to admit they are wrong under those conditions with Ariel rubbing your nose in it?
The first thing he did was try to make him look like a fool but it just made chael double down lmao
They’re talking about fighting lol not real life problems. Gloating about somebody being wrong in a sport is what we all do. It’s not personal. They both were wrong but chael was the one who was more in denial
Ariel is just mean and hateful anymore. He started it then plays victim when Chael fought back
You should admit you are wrong if you are wrong period. Doesn’t matter if someone is rubbing your nose in it. That is the price to pay for being wrong. When you are wrong, put down your pride, bend the knee, and let the person who were right walk all over you. That is just what you get for being wrong. You just have to accept it. This is unwritten rules of society. Why can’t people just admit being wrong and deal the consequences? You don’t get to be wrong and free of consequences. It is not fair to people who are right.
@markkatz4247 so you'd admit you're wrong with a weasle like Helwani giving you that smirk and trying to embarrass you on live camera? Naw, your pride wouldn't let you
Ariel: Francis made the "right" decision by becoming a free agent.
Chael: Just because it "worked" for Francis doesn't mean it was the "right" decision.
Ariel: But it "worked", so it was "right".
Chael: Just because it "worked" doesn't always mean it was the "right" choice.
I don’t really understand the point Chael was trying to make. I mean I get the premise, but I don’t know why he can’t accept someone might want to go their own way, to control their destiny on their terms. It’s like he cannot comprehend someone might not want to follow a blueprint, and any deviation in how someone wants to run their career is showbiz blasphemy. Doesn’t he understand that Francis wanted the freedom to do what he wanted, to be allowed to box and do other things, as well as the dispute with money? He’s so caught up on “no fighter in history has done this and come out the back end better off” he can’t for the life of him see any other side.
@@Azzury.it’s kinda like people who run from the police. Just because it worked for El Chapo doesn’t mean it’s the right decision. Or maybe I’m reaching 🤣
@@Azzury.I interpret is keeping the door open and not being complacent. There may never be a “right” answer, just some answers that make sense more than others. Francis went this route, but we’ll never know what other routes he could’ve taken so we’ll never truly know what the “right” decision is
It's like the people who think that being a College drop out to pursue a UA-camr career will work just bc some popular UA-camrs did the same thing or that being an highschool drop out like some popular artist or fighters will ended as good as it did for other people @@Azzury.
@@Azzury.”just because it works for me, doesn’t mean it shall work for thee” Francis is a specimen of a human and Ariel is trying to say these fighters should drop their career with the ufc just because it worked for 1 superstar fighter. Francis odds of coming out of this in a positive light we’re so astronomical low that Ariel’s prediction wasn’t out of his ability to see Francis’s boxing skills that no one has ever seen before that match. He did it because he is a hater and likes when the ufc hits lows so he has stuff to talk about that is why ur prolly seeing a lot of chael support kinda hard to get ufc fans to hate the ufc as much as Ariel does.
Regardless of if he was right or wrong. Ariel is still a weasel that only cared about Dana being wrong.
Yup
So? Lol
😮😮😮😮😮❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Damn right. though oddly when Chael directly called him out for it Ariel called him a coward for not calling him out directly for it.....He's getting even worse than he was - that whole Dricus race baiting thing was utterly disgusting.
So? He is right? He's never behaved like Chael did, as much as I dislike Ariel. Chael broke inside. I wonder where that fragility comes from? Jealousy? Is he "auditioning" for a job with the UFC? He snapped. And he was completely wrong.
No healthy person is going to say they were wrong if you're dealing with Ariel telling you to.
Ariel Helwani saying do it come do it was the highlight of the argument 😂
Chael got butt hurt
@@EssequiboAmazona_07you probably wanna suck on ariels nose
Ariel sounding very weasel saying those word lmao lol 😂
@@EssequiboAmazona_07 and so did u after seeing ur daddy ariel in a tough debate with chael
@@EE-xx5xd u need more friends
“Francis ngannou made between no money and infinite money”
“Oh my god Chael you’re the best reporter ever”
Best line
I get where Chael is coming from tbh. I would never give Ariel an inch in an argument if he was coming at me like that in an Interview.
Chael is too prideful to admit he was wrong..he just doesn't want to be called out/concede to ariel
@@davidpark2509
When has ariel ever admitted that he was wrong? Lol why would anyone else give him that courtesy?
@@AlphaQHard
It has something to do with being a real man that can admit mistakes
It almost felt like chael and ariel were arguing about two completely different things. Which is why chael clapped him at the end and said this is really about ariel having a vendetta against the ufc.
YOOOOOOO ITS BASED MMA
Chael is right. Ariel is treating it like everyone knew that Ngannou was going to perform this well. The chances of Ngannou leaving UFC being profitable was low. He managed to succeed, good for him. However, it was impossible to see this happening and Ariel definitely didn't predict this outcome like he claimed to have.
All Ariel said is in the end Franics made the right call by betting on himself and won. If you can’t admit that then you’re just stubborn. Francis already won by getting the fight, winning was just extra
Even if he lost, which he did, it just further proves the point Ariel is making, he still got payed more than what he got in the ufc and they way he contested for the belt, he’ll fight more heavy weights for 10-20 times what the ufc payed him 🤡🤣
@@influx9151 I am not talking about his boxing performance as performing well. The fact that he managed to book a fight against the heavyweight champion of the world is "performing well". Without Saudis making a leap on boxing this wouldn't happen. Obviously he played a lot of part in it and his personality, his charisma helped him achieving what he did. However, there was also lot of luck involved. If any other UFC fighter tries to do this chances of them succeeding will still be low. It was low for Ngannou and he somehow did it. I am happy for it, I hope PFL succeeds and becomes a great competitor to UFC so everyone would get fair.
@@orkunkaansimsek Luck can only be a factor when you take the steps and risk to start with. Luck has a factor in every single persons life, it’s irrelevant to whether it was a good decision or not. Francis went around acting like he knew something everyone else didn’t, and now everyone is completely shocked by what he has done. Id say Francis knew what he was doing.
@@reservoirfrogs2177Francis was very lucky.
“You’re taking LeBron… Colby… rest his soul” 🤣🤣🤣
Idk if it’s an act or if he really doesn’t know who Kobe is and mistakenly said Colby.
He clearly said Kobe, just reaching to be edgy🤓
Everyone hates Ariel now 😂
He's a joke with the glazing
Now?
@@chicassoproductions8527I was just about the comment that lmao. Just the way he seems during old interviews like. This guy is such a dork interviewing UFC FIGHTERS
I became a fan again after his pettiness on Monday after Ngannou got robbed and even more so after he beat Chael in yesterday's debate lol😂
Ariel fried chael .. Ariel won the show
“We shocked the World.”
😂😂😂
I bet if chael attacked Ariel physically, no one would stop it or see it. They’d look the other way and pretend it didn’t happen
I most definitely would
You call him stubborn, I call him an immovable object. Another win for THE BAD GUY. 💪 All jokes aside, so annoying to see Ariel trying to belittle and talk down to Chael like a little know it all and be that bandwagon dude who acts like he's a genius for riding against his enemy long enough to be proven right
Yes Ariel is a rat that doesn't change the fact chael is dead wrong here and needs to be called out for his bs.
Id punk Ariel irl and also call out Tracy to a fight bro
Well he is Jewish so expect him to act like a little rat
Yooooo, my favorite MMA youtuber !!!
Honestly Ariel deserves it especially after that interview he did with DDP. DDP said Chael was being stupid and ariel slimy af just agreed
Ariel did not have any proof regarding Ngannou's pay check. Ariel did act like a weasel and made it about Ngannou beating Dana and encouraged other fighters to take this massive chance of being broke for a rogue chance at fighting.
Chael is not really wrong.
Chael is really really wrong lol
at the end of the day anyone who watches ariel knows just like chael was getting at ariel is way happier that dana and the ufc looked bad than he was for ngannou’s success. just like he was happy when dana was caught slapping his wife on camera instead of feeling disgusted or embarrassed by the actions of dana.
Ariel and all of the mma media was the ones falsely reporting that Francis was also making 25-30 million guaranteed; their source? Tyson Fury jokingly said Francis would make 10x or even 50x as much as the ufc paid him, so they took the biggest payout he ever got and multiple by 50, and said that's what he's guaranteed to be making.
And now they're acting like the 10 is so much. When Ariel was also saying that Francis could make what conor made for the mayweather fight when he he first left the ufc.
Chael is incapable of answering a question in a direct manner
Ariel as well
“Social media made y’all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it”-Mike Tyson
Lucas it’s literally 3am in New York respect the grind homeboy 🫡
Ariel acting tough...lmao
No that’s Chael physically threatening a smaller man over a debate. CTE brain.
@@marauder_- welcome to the real world where you cant just mouth off to people
@@slee2695 Lmao according to the law, you can actually. Within reason and context of course. You’d be the one going to prison over words, tough guy.
@@slee2695 Men have such fragile egos it’s hilarious
You know that when a man cannot defend himself and must turn to the law to take refuge in it for his problems and his personal fights, he will achieve nothing in life.
Ariel seems to have convinced himself that it is his feelings for Francis that made him feel like everything was on the line for that fight and NOT his massive disdain for the UFC and Dana White. That's a powerful delusion man. Ariel must have been watching that fight on tv just like Adrian in Rocky 2, pacing the floor. When Francis didn't shout him out in the ring after the fight I imagine that must have hurt Ariel pretty deeply - so don't judge him too harshly guys.
People give Ariel way too much shit. Why shouldn't he be able to celebrate Dana taking an L here. Dana does nothing but talk shit about him and tried putting him out of a job numerous times, but apparently Ariel should just take that on the chin. Ariel has always supported fighters chasing opportunities outside of the UFC or MMA in general. So yes, Ariel should celebrate when a fighter bets on himself and succeeds. Doing it to Chael was unwarranted though.
I hate it because he does it under the guise of caring about fighters, he shits on fighters for totally random reasons to stir up controversy and has for his entire career, starting fake beefs and instigating fights for 'journalism'. He's a slimy gremlin man.
Def not siding with Chael though, he's turned into such a shameless corporate shill. He can't even admit that making millions in 1 single fight (and one he came out unscathed from) is a win because he has to, religiously, defend the UFC's position.
Neither brought up the fact that Fury could have just said no, and Ngannu would have been left fighting cans in the PFL and fade into obscurity as a "what if". His whole plan required someone else allowing it to happen.
Major L Ariel is insufferable and slimy anyone who says “Ariel gets to much shit” ur opinion is instantly invalid. You could say Ariel is right you could say chael is wrong. But “Ariel gets to much shit” awful take mate if anything he doesn’t get enough shit
So true
Ariel can celebrate without being a dick and talking down to everyone and acting like he was a part of Francis success😂😂 Ariel backed Francis knowing he could ride his coat tails and use it for ammo against Dana White. Ariel's heads getting to big and he's getting to comfortable talking tough to the real fighters.
@@JordanAlbert-fu9jz
Dana is a scumbag sometimes so I don't mind some karma even tho I don't hate Dana and think he's a genius promoter
I gotta admit Ariel claiming a ufc fighter was scared of him made me burst out laughing
These are the hardest men on the planet. Chael could literally kill 99.9% of men even at 47.
never underestimate the power of jealousy. Chael is jealous of everything Francis accomplished.
These are indisputable facts:
1) Francis Ngannou won financially the second that this fight was booked. Nothing that happened in the ring this weekend would have changed that. He already "won" just by getting the fight and the guaranteed $10M base if that's what it was. Him leaving the UFC was a risk in that there was no guarantee where his next fight was going to be or how much he was going to make. He was willing to take that risk because he wanted the opportunity to box, the UFC wasn't going to give it to him, and he was prepared to lose everything to stand on his principles. He even said he would be okay going back to farming just to have his freedom from the UFC. From that perspective, I totally agree with Francis and I applaud him.
2) The fight was not successful financially for THE PROMOTION because no one wanted to watch a 2pm fight that wasn't supposed to be competitive. I believe that it bombed. Probably sold less than 200K PPVs. But the Saudi's also don't care because they have more money than God. Look at how much money they're blowing on LIV Golf. These boxing fights are just the combat sports version of LIV. The LIV golfers are undeniably financially winning and LIV is burning money. If and when the Saudis stop doing this, all those guys will return to the PGA Tour and Francis will return to normal boxing fights or the UFC. Francis saw the opportunity and took advantage of it.
3) Leaving the UFC to test free agency in the hopes of getting a one-off boxing fight in Saudi Arabia would be a bad idea for 99% of the UFC roster because no one would care if Sean OMalley was boxing Tank Davis. That's not even remotely interesting. This opportunity was only available to Francis because of who he was, what he accomplished in the UFC, and the possibility that he could knock out the best boxer in the world.
4) Francis is a better boxer than anyone thought he would be. Now he's going to cash in HUGE and he "won" again this weekend because he was so good against Fury. Anyone arguing otherwise is just wrong.
He's going Hollywood, he's getting buku offers, Francis never imagined all the opportunities that have presented themselves so far. I hope he surrounds himself with good people that keep him safe from all the corruption out there.
Let's be fair, who wants to admit that they were wrong to Ariel? That guy will rub it in for eons.
Ariel is the type of dude you never undertand why people hate And then it all makes sense 😂😂.(Also Im not understanding how people are saying Chael is wrong, because he isnt)
Francis left an organization where he was making about 500k per fight to getting 10 million in one night. Why is that a bad decision?
@@bmmeier1He did not make 10 million. He was given 10 million by the saudis. The ppv numbers are out and chael was right all along lol
Good video, really enjoyed it apart from the bit at the end when you suggested that Chael thinks 'deeply' about anything lol. They are both hysterically arrogant and stubborn and they have their own biases and agendas (just like the rest of us).
Exactly - to his credit, Ariel pointed this out but Chael is too entrenched to admit it. I don't like Ariel but at least he was honest enough about his own bias, while Chael makes out that he's some sort of all-knowing, impartial, subjective deity - he's not... He's a company man who knows which side his bread is buttered. Tough guy my ass...
Ariel is that kind of friend who will push you into trying Russian roulette, and ask your other friends who tried to stop you to apologize if you survive.
It’s just crazy how Ariel uses the word “we” all the time like he was in the ring with Tyson himself there is a reason chael is the people’s champ and I don’t think people are gonna care about the ari being right when he clearly made that prediction out of malice to the the ufc and not because he trusted in Francis’s boxing ability he set up a no lose situation for himself straight up weasel mentality.
Don’t you EVER question Chael like this again Lucas.
Regardless of who's right or wrong, this was really entertaining. Chael threatening ariel was hilarious, truly a MMA classic in years time.
I love Sonnen . Company man Til the end . He knows that he is wrong and stills defends his former employee. Undefeated 💪
Chael is right though? How can you say an event was a success if it was a financial failure? Someone voluntarily losing money is not sustainable. That would be like saying you're a successful businessman because someone handed you a million dollars.
Yes, he had a strong point on the difference between the money your given and the money you make. Francis was given 10 mil but how much did he himself make in selling this fight through ppv. Which was always the UFC’s problem w Francis is he can’t sell Ppv.
It's a valid argument when we're trying to see things from the UFC's viewpoint and understand their decision to part ways with Francis. But to use is this as some sort of evidence that Francis made the wrong decision is a bit silly. The man just secured an 8 figure payday and increased his worldwide bankability overnight.
@@GarlicOasis A broken clock is right twice a day is a truly fitting saying for this scenario. Francis quit his job in a sense to pursue boxing and the only money he made since In the boxing space was a hand out from your “excellency”. They lost money on the event. As Chael said, Francis was given money, he didn’t generate any significant revenue himself . As a business man if you quit your job and then later you just so happen to win the lottery you cannot now act like you made some genius business decision for quitting your job. It’s bad business for you to be relying on your main source of income to come from a handout bc some billionaire felt like blowing away millions just to enjoy himself. We’re discussing the business choice Francis made and on a balance of probabilities more often than not, it’s a shit business decision. If you’re business decision is solely reliant on the small percent chance you win the lottery or in this case you have a billionaire willing to lose MILLIONS of $’s then it’s a shit business decision. Hindsight is 2020, you can’t sit here and say it was a smart decision just bc it worked out for Francis. Businessmen operate on what is PROBABLE not what is POSSIBLE.
I loved watching that. I thought poor uncle Chael was gonna get a heart attach when Ariel brought up the fact that he lied about being at the fight.😂😂😂😂
Chael wasn’t wrong and Ariel even admitted as much when he said “if he got KOd in the first round, he would have been fighting on ESPN 2 and nobody would care”
You can’t look back because of hindsight and say Francis made the right choice. He made a huge gamble that could have ended his career, and everyone expected him to get beaten.
The fact he made it competitive is what saved him from making the biggest mistake in combat sports history.
I don’t really understand how it’s a bad choice to get your biggest paycheck of your career to compete less often, and in a sport that causes fewer injuries. The UFC offered 6-7 million to fight John jones and he made a minimum of 10 million. When he was when he defended his belt in the ufc he was only paid like 500k. If I could choose to fight 3 times in 2 years for 500k ea, I’d take the 10 mil
@@bmmeier1 So a couple of things…
As far as his pay in the UFC, Francis was holding out on an old contract when he left the org. He could have been fighting for more money if he wanted to.
As far as the Bones fight… you might be looking at a trilogy. Probably 7 figure show plus PPVs for 3 fights. He only made like 11 mill off this Tyson fight, PPV only did like 66k buys.
Francis made the right choice because boxing is better (pays more, fights less, etc.). While that statement is generally true it is not guaranteed. Many things had to go his way, and they did. Francis was fortunate and worked hard, but that doesn’t make the choice “right” at the time.
Just because we can look back in hindsight and say “it worked out”. If you swerve across 4 lanes of traffic to get to an exit, but there’s no accident, did you make the right choice?
Finally, someone who's not just blinded by their hate of Helwani and will actually call Chael on his bullshit. Chael's entire UA-cam channel is just MMA conspiracies.
Ariel with the real keyboard warrior vibes thinking chael really wouldn't catch a charge just to shut his punk ass up.
Ariel helwanni acts like an annoying, instigating little brother
So accurate 😂
Chael tryna stay on Dana’s good side by not admitting it’s so obvious.
Nah Ariel is just an insufferable guy If these weren’t modern times ariel would be bullied mercilessly
love the vids man !!!
Ariel fails to mention that Francis would have indeed fumbled the bag if Dana and Jon never publicly tried to embarrass Tyson with the fight in the UFC offer. The only reason Tyson gave Francis the fight in the first place was to stick it to Dana and Jon. Them the facts. Dana basically made Francis vs Tyson happen😂
hey lucas boxing and MMA fan here I love the videos Hope you keep it up.
😩😔
Chael could probably rip him in half tbh
10m in ppv points would have to be $40 per ppv sold with 250k sold. I doubt he made half of the ppv share and I doubt this event sold 250k. Regardless Ngannou will make 30-70m his next fight with base and ppv a win 🏆
Another thing these old heads don’t get is the economy of attention. He became a legend. If he never fights again his earning potential over his life increased tenfold.
amazing video. Good work!
The undefeated undisputed uncle Chael.
Heelwani plays the heal perfect! Made Chael look like the good guy.
The mma gurus impression of angry Ariel is spot on lmao
On the whole "did Ngannou financially win" question, Chael believes that the risk Ngannou took was so risky that it couldnt even be considered a win even if the risk worked. While Ariel sees this as being stubborn and having a vendetta against Ngannou. Which side is true depends on your perspective of Chael.
Either ways Ariel has a mental complex where he always has to be more right than everyone in the room, to the point of twisting words, changing narratives, sounding smarter, or grossly exaggerating statistics to look more right. For example: the 10-20 million assessment.
I’m just waiting for Ariel’s hate of Dana to ruin another relationship. A fallout with DC would be a great finale.
My guy out here lookin like the dude from the Holey Moleys packet
Chael threating Ariel with them jazz hands yo 🤣
I’ve known chael for years we train at the same gym one of the nicest guys you’ll ever meet. Trust me this is all just a publicity stunt, but he called out that weasel on being a weasel and him just wanting Dana white to be wrong.
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@@the_auditor1017 the dude ur talking to beat a top prospect on short notice for his first pro fight.
@@the_auditor1017 how he basically admitted he was wrong at the end of the video and he said I couldn’t just admitted that easily. I had to give you a hard time everything he does is carefully planned out
Ariel has shown time and time again, that he cannot legit talk about UFC/Dana White. I just dont trust Jewaneeee when he speaks on UFC, he can talk about OTHER mma orgs, and wrestling. but just not ufc. and chael just exposed that. 10-7 Chael
Usyk and some other fighters called it a fake fight . This was some WWE match.
And that’s the problem with the “big boxing paydays” everyone says to because he was making just as much in ufc with the new deal he wouldn’t sign. The same amount.
Ariel saying do it do it do it! Omg….. yeah that’s the shear sign of a an idiot… who has actually never been punched or strangled… or has no intentions of it… we seen Ariel run and cry when Dillon hit Logan.
Ariel is such an weasel that would be fucking dead after one punch
21:15....oof this didn't age well after finding out that the ppv did 67k buys. Francis got a tiny smidget of that percentage....Chael was right and Ariel's whole argument here is looking worse and worse
LOL he could’ve gotten the entire 4 million that the fight netted and if the ufc gave him 15% PPV share. Which by the way would be insane as GSP was making over 20 percent PPV share. And Francis still wouldve lost a million before the UFC guaranteed money became involved. As Jon vs Gane sold a million+.
LOL Francis needs a manager the dude lost out on a fat cheque cause guys like Ariel convinced him the grass was greener on the other side
Lucas not knowing boxing and tht during every maywether fight ever they’d bring up the rematch clause it’s what made me hate boxing to begin with
He did 21 videos on that
Undefeated undisputed and unbeatable 😂😂😂😂😂
literally copying guru content every damn time is crazy
Uncle Chael is never wrong 🤣
Chael had something in the chamber for Ariel because a while back Ariel said something about Chael saying "a lot of stupid things". Or something. Uncle Chael was ready to check that dude
My take on chael whole argument and attitude is that chael is a company man and he is trying to get word out for the ufc that they dont want anybody to think that ngannou actually set the precedent that you can to up against dana white and win....chael is fighting hard for his boss dana white so that this dies down and everyone forgets that they did it for mcgregor nut hated on francis for some odd reason and it turns out that ngannou did better then mcgregor even though ngannou had more going against him then mcgregor who had everyone going for him....the fa t is that the ufc didn't know who and what they had in ngannou and they fumbled the bag, they allowed jbj is to be out 3 years, they allowed francis to get away and they thought they could treat ngannou the same way they treated ALL the other great fighters that they've screwed over but it turns out that this time they bet against the wrong guy......it is what it is.
Uncle Chael should let this one go. There isn't a man alive who can get receipts better than Heelwani !
they're both wrong tbh. its understandable for chael cos Ariel was antagonising and trying to embarrass him from the first sec, had Ariel not been a dick maybe chael would've actually conceded his points and thought them out more. but no, Ariel does what he always does on his show and acts like a big man when I know year 8s who'd do him in. like both are wrong, Ariel was wrong first and at least chael is respectful, ariels out here telling fighters " you don't have the balls" no Ariel you don't have the balls that's why its a FaceTime and not in person. id of been stubborn against Ariel to, you can't win if your on his show
W Lucas, with the long vid
Chael came on Ariels show in one hell of a bad mood and it went down hill from there. I didn't care for Chael's condescending and aggressive attitude whatsoever.
Omg! 😳 every time I watch you it’s spot on and so hilarious!!😂 please keep up the good work! Holy smokes! Dude you are rt on !!
uploading at 3 am is crazy
The official buys for Fury vs Ngannou are 67,500 which is an absolutely incredible bomb in terms of making money. Ngannou couldn’t possibly make 10 Mil from PPV points out of 67,500 buys
Facts
I think what chael was saying is true. Ngannou woulda won monetarily anyways but the real story is that he did so well in boxing against the best.
It sold 67k ppv 🤣🤣🤣 that puts a damper on all that future money.
If I was the PFL the 67K buys has me shitting bricks. That event 4 million dollars, with Francis garunteed money and plus he’s taking 50% PPV revenue they’re losing money. That isn’t even counting the million dollars to Francis’s opponents. Francis and the bellator deal, may have destroyed the PFL!
Mma media has been annoying over the fight. Fury won 7 rounds. No robbery
Crazy an undefeated champion who never lost a round would act like this
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Chael Sonen is such a company man. He trying to stay on Dana’s good side
They just got back and forth shifting the goal posts it’s amazing
Low key do want Chael to choke out aerial 😂
I literally overslept and missed the fight and I don’t even skip fight nights
Chael referenced twice on his follow up video that the fight was in England. I mean if your getting that wrong then how can he debate the subject.
Idk. I kinda see what Chael is saying
I mean he made good points in the debate but he's flat out wrong about francis not being a winner today. He even says towards the end that Francis's success from here on out in boxing would be due to his good performance against Fury which is admitting that his stock is extremely high rn.
@@lucastracymma8764 Wait... so Francis won the fight? The judges officially scored otherwise so Chael is correct if we're being objectively honest
@@lucastracymma8764actually you’re flat out wrong, Francis is not a winner, he fuckin lost the fight bro 😂
@@JoshuaSmith-no9mnthe currupt judges scored the fight for Fury but anyone with a brain knows Francis won
@@Zizoujr11 Francis won 3 rounds lol
This aged well
Chael didn't let Ariel get too close. End of story! lol
In all seriousness, I think it's dumb of Ariel to act like as if Francis was gonna perform the way he did all along, considering how most MMA fighters performed in boxing the past few years. Ariel just happened to get something right all thanks to Francis, Ariel just happened to catch a lighting in a bottle, that's all.
You’re reframing like Ariel did.
Asking whether something was a “good decision,” is different than asking if there was a good outcome.
Francis may have “won.” That doesn’t mean his decision was smart.
I’m with Sonnen. Mayweather and Mcgregor 2 didn’t happen because no one made money. Same will happen here. Francis is tied to the PFL. For that reasoning Francis is no different than Jake Paul.
Chael has always been negative towards fighters he has personal issues with, and I'm glad someone finally said it to him.
What was his personal issue with ngannou?
@@kevinhanandihe ran into him somewhere and probably started something with Ngannou then I'm guessing they almost fought each other by the way he makes it sound.
Good insight with a moderated take but I don’t think you understood Chaels line of logic, made a lot of sense to me. If there is an abudabi2 for Francis it’s a massive W.
But if he has to go to the free market with his PPV power he was better off with legacy and fair money from a renegotiated contract with the UFC.
30m over 3-6 years with UFC and chance at GOAT of all fighters legacy.
Vs
60m over 3 years with Boxing/Free agent MMA and almost no chance at a legacy (compared to potential)
Easy choice for me..
The easy choice is 60 million.
I don’t think it was gonna be 30ml over 3-6 years it would be split out over the fight contracts. His legacy isn’t going to be made by the ufc when he has a chance to cement it with being dual athlete at the highest level in two different sports.
Legacy is the least prioritized aspect for a fighter. It is the money that matters.
Like 15 millions over 3 years in ufc at about 80 percent of chance obtaining it
Vs
100 mill over 3 years about 20 percent chance of obtaining it going free agent in boxing
Going boxing yield more expected value. And keep in mind he doesn’t have to win against fury. He just needs to look good and exceed expectations.
Legacy is worthless. Take the 60 million and run.
TF is Legacy gonna help him with???
60m is the obvious choice TF?😂
Chael is still using his logic and not saying he won because where does Franco’s go with the pfl after this? The pfl is not winning. Francis might be able to box another time or,two but ppl are gonna quit caring and pfl has nothing to offer him. Period.
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Ariel had so much riding on this fight. More than is immediately apparent I think. His emotions and anger towards the UFC were all tied up into this and he needed Francis to succeed as some kind of vindication for himself. That isn't to say he didn't have some good points though and he tried even harder to prove Chael wrong here than he did when he was trying to persuade everyone that Dricus was a pro apartheid racist and that Izzy is South African. So when he's not race baiting he is certainly passionate about Francis Ngannou - He even refers to him and Francis as "we".......I had flashbacks from Rocky 2 when Rocky said "Yo Adrian, we did it'......That's a deep love man and i hope Francis can reciprocate it a little.
Anyone coming at Ariel cannot be wrong
Ariel's a good journalist but sometimes I can't stand the tone in his voice. He's just looking for a gotcha smh
Idk why everyone takes Ariel so serious lol. He was obviously trying to anger Chael for all this content, and chael just let him get under his skin
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