Still on my late 2013 Macbook Pro model and it runs like the first day I brought it! Update: Wow thanks for the likes! Still using my late 2013 MB Pro as of Nov 26, 2022 and still running like new besides needing a new battery!
@@Sdssda. If you don't mind buying a used model and find one in a good condition I'm sure it could last a long time. My macbook is about to be 7 years old and it still runs like new. I been using it everyday and brought it initially for college.
Good job kid, very nice info and straight to the point. As long as you get the dedicated GPU on any 2013(LATE not Early), 2014, 2015 you are good. Intel Iris Pro is good, but definitely won't get you over the hump.
Same here !!!! Mid 2012 retina MacBook Pro 2.3 ghz quad-core intel i7 Memory 16gb ( 1600 mhz ddr3 ) HD graphics ( 4000 ) 1536 mb I went yesterday to check the new MacBooks and tested for 2 hours different programs and guess what !!!! feels just little more faster the new model , but I love the 15 inch old 2012 better so maybe I will keep my computer for 2 or 3 more years !!! I have little problems with the battery 🔋 I think need the be remplace!!! Oh well
2015 would be the best one for now if you really want to have updates for the next 5 years but the best bang for the buck would be the 2014 imo. I’m not sure why but in Germany the 2013 model has the same price in the used market like the 2014 and sometimes even higher for some reason? Definitely going to buy one this summer because of SwiftUI which is just amazing for coding Apps.
Late 2013 should be supported as long as 2015. 2013, 2014, 2015 all have similar CPU. Main difference is GPU and SSD is x2 vs x4. I think 2015 is best as you said since it also has the faster GPU, but if that doesn't matter then late 2013 or 2014 model is fine. 2015 has battery recall right now.
Informative. I'm really trying to decide here whether I need a secondary 15" MacBook Pro or to go for a 13" Haswell rMBP with 16GB RAM. Leaning more and more towards the latter.
Nice tests! Keep in mind that our brain “sees” improvement on an exponential curve meaning the x4 performance increase will be registered as x2. Anything less than 50% increase won’t be even noticed. None of these Intel laptops are worth updating, I’m not parting with my mid 2014 which on top of that can still run older software I use (Aperture)
@@afn-bd2ro I have had one for a very long time. It has outlasted many of the newer MacBooks that my friends and family members owned. It also has a keyboard that does not break due to dust.
Thanks. I have a offer for a mbp 2014, brand new battery, always protection,no scratches whatsoever for a brilliant price. The thing is the owner is a graphic designer and photographer, so I think the MacBook was using under constant work imagining she worked like 8 hours full capacity on graphic programmes etc. Should I worry or be concerned? Thanks
I see. This could be due to the graphics switching. I notice the older one with nvidia 650m transitions better from igpu to dgpu compared to the newer AMD models. However once the switching is done they’re about equal in smoothness
I dont have the 13 model however I have used both 2016 and 2014 13 models and my opinion is the same as this video. 13 2015 and older has better keyboard, all these ports etc. Screen on the 2016+ is better though.
You can upgrade/replace: SSD (Apple or M.2 using adapter) Battery WiFi Card (airport board) Everything else (CPU, RAM, etc. is soldered) Fans, heatsink, speakers, logic board can of course be replaced.
@@denniszenanywhere 2015 can do same exact upgrades as 2013. 2016+ has soldered SSD. I recommend Late 2013 - Mid 2015 models for best keyboard/ports with the ability to increase storage and put in a new battery.
@@cs.studios Btw, I hear this a lot about old Macbook pros. They explode. appleinsider.com/articles/19/05/30/macbook-pro-catches-on-fire-demonstrating-potential-danger-of-batteries
I have late 2013 Macbook Pro with i7 and is working fine except the cable is starting to wear and the battery is not like before. I was wondering whether to replace cable and battery or trade it in with a new MacBook pro. I think am going for the first option.
I'm almost done with my 2019 16" vs 2013 15" MBP video. Upon doing it I am also thinking of just getting a new battery, replace thermal paste and return the 16.
Very informative, thank you. my late 2013 15" mbp screens lcd has broke and i was wondering whether to pay for a repair or get a new one. Had my baby throughout my graphic design course and did set me back £2400 at the time. Think im going to get the screen fixed and hang on a few more years. Still purrs and iv never had an issue with it (since christmas 2013). Looked after it so much and im gutted the screen broke but £200-£300 third party or £500-£700 though apple is still much less than £2000-£2600 for a newer model.
Hi, I have a macbook pro 2013, I am going to buy a 34" widescreen ( 21:9) external monitor for it, I wonder if 2013 macbook pro supports 21:9 display aspect ratio or not? gpu for it is the graphic Intel(R) Iris(TM) Graphics 5100 . thanks
My man, what is wrong with your graphs? Stay consistent and use distinguishable colors between. Why are you changing graph colors every slide jesus christ
For any normal person, it is the information that was more relevant. And quite frankly didn't see anything wrong with the graphs. Not everyone is a graphic designer. - Coming from a graphic designer.
I've heard the newer 2019 i9 model seems to throttle less and it also has 8 cores so it should perform better. I'm waiting for the 16" macbook pro to review then we will see their latest and best.
Want to explain why it's manipulative? The render took seconds but the 2018 was 16% faster. Now imagine I used a more complex track that took the 2018 5 minutes to complete, the 2013 would take 6 minutes if scaled the same way. The longer the render time, the more apparent the difference would be. Since this was my first time working with these graphs I went with these, but scaling should be a bit more apparent next time around.
@@cs.studios My complaint is only with the scale of the graphs which you seem to recognize is the issue. The scale for the graph makes no sense for comparing the two values. The percent difference may be 16 percent but the graph scale visually implies that the 2018 is 4x the speed. It is much more accurate to have the X axis scale starting from zero. Otherwise it is good. I should re-phrase my original comment, the graph was not intentionally manipulative.
Yeah I plan to make the graphs much better for my upcoming videos. I tried using Keynote and have since switched to PowerPoint/Excel on my newer videos which produce better results.
2013 is one of the best MacBooks ... but the thing is that now with their new ecosystem based on de M1 processor, soon it will be outdated not BC of its performance, but BC of Apple support on old MacBook pros. Sad because it works just as de first day I bought it. Although, there are some nasty stains due the staingate thing that is all over 2015 and before MacBook pros.
Since Apple still sells intel based macs we should see support for intel based macs for awhile. Might lose support for newest Os on 2015 and older macs in 1-2 versions
hi. I had the same problem with the screen because of Staingate and I found by using Baby Wipes, it removes the top layer that caused the problem in the first place and now the screen is as good as new, I hope it helps
i feel that for the price the 2015 is just find, it just well with no problem and it will hold for the next 5 years, plus you will safe your self around 500 dollars lmaoo
You know macbooks are a loooooooot better than windows(except gaming and customisation which most of users dont feel like a problem) when2013 macbooks that is being reviewed as of now No windows laptop more than 1 year gets reviewed by youtubers after years of its release Because windows laptops don't last long😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😂😂😂 M1 macs will crush windows 😂😀😀😀😀😂😂 Some will argue mac sucks, gaming sucks, but deep down these are the guys (including me who once used idiotic windows laptop) who struggle a lot with their laptop battery No freedom to travel outside for more than 4 hours Long live Mac, Long live Mac OS , Long live Apple silicon processor
@@cs.studios i bought late 2013 15" yesterday,man it is awesome.Screen is perfect,there is not eve 1 scratch neither on screen nor on case,has 500 cyle,m really happy with it.It is not like 2013,more like 2023 lol xkskdn.
Unless Apple releases a completely redesigned MacBook Pro, I’m keeping mine =]
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@@cs.studios Good Choice. This shit good to go another 3-4 years. Apple can keep stupid touchbar and crappy keyboard. 2013 has excellent keyboard compare to new models. All we need is work done.
Stick with the older Macbook pro. Max out the ram to 16 gb, switch your hard disk to a SSD - Solid State Drive. VERY noticeably quicker. Your cpu, temp may change but do not be concerned SSD's have different temps "Most SSDs are rated for running within a temperature . 32'F to 158'F, 0'C to 70'C." Google's answer on What temperature should a SSD run at on a laptop.
Still on my late 2013 Macbook Pro model and it runs like the first day I brought it!
Update: Wow thanks for the likes! Still using my late 2013 MB Pro as of Nov 26, 2022 and still running like new besides needing a new battery!
should I consider it now in 2020 to use in the next 3/4 years in school and light video editing/coding?
@@Sdssda. If you don't mind buying a used model and find one in a good condition I'm sure it could last a long time. My macbook is about to be 7 years old and it still runs like new. I been using it everyday and brought it initially for college.
@@gurpalsingh3695 thank you
@@gurpalsingh3695 I'm a bit worried for the support life in the couple next years will it continue for atleast 3 years?
Kan k with a SSD you can go with no problems for years!
Good job kid, very nice info and straight to the point. As long as you get the dedicated GPU on any 2013(LATE not Early), 2014, 2015 you are good. Intel Iris Pro is good, but definitely won't get you over the hump.
Using 2011 Macbook Pro in 2020 only charger purchased.
battery cycles 1475 still run same as new.
The Most reliable Laptops in the world
2013 late Mac book pro 🥉
Heman You should keep 2013
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my 2013 macbook pro has been perfect
Just purchased a late 2019 16 i9 pro but my late 2013 macbook pro is still going strong with no issues.
SuppppperPosii my cuz is giving me hers, do you think it can run safely design programs from Affinity or Adobe ?
We stan an intelligent blink. Thax for the comparison👍
I still use it in 2021 and it is very fast. i7 processor with 16GB ram makes it superb👍🏻 don’t waste your money on newer models.
Is it good for adobe premiere ?
@@hamzisharky8793 yes
Same here !!!! Mid 2012 retina
MacBook Pro
2.3 ghz quad-core intel i7
Memory 16gb ( 1600 mhz ddr3 )
HD graphics ( 4000 ) 1536 mb
I went yesterday to check the new MacBooks and tested for 2 hours different programs and guess what !!!! feels just little more faster the new model , but I love the 15 inch old 2012 better
so maybe I will keep my computer for 2 or 3 more years !!! I have little problems with the battery 🔋 I think need the be remplace!!! Oh well
u have a relaxing voice
just a virgin voice...guess that makes 2 of you
Peter Chiung only a virgin goes around in the comments calling other people virgins
SilentPanther2003 facts lol
Great video dude!! Subbed
Watching it on MBP Early 2013
same here ! ibought MBP late 2013 and i am very glad. Its amazing device !
@Sam you buy one, I’m thinking about it
@swellest loki I would definitely do it. I bought one about a month ago and the thing is crazy fast. i7 processor and 16gb RAM
2015 would be the best one for now if you really want to have updates for the next 5 years but the best bang for the buck would be the 2014 imo. I’m not sure why but in Germany the 2013 model has the same price in the used market like the 2014 and sometimes even higher for some reason?
Definitely going to buy one this summer because of SwiftUI which is just amazing for coding Apps.
Late 2013 should be supported as long as 2015. 2013, 2014, 2015 all have similar CPU. Main difference is GPU and SSD is x2 vs x4. I think 2015 is best as you said since it also has the faster GPU, but if that doesn't matter then late 2013 or 2014 model is fine. 2015 has battery recall right now.
Informative.
I'm really trying to decide here whether I need a secondary 15" MacBook Pro or to go for a 13" Haswell rMBP with 16GB RAM. Leaning more and more towards the latter.
Me too! What did you end up doing???
Very Good Video Mate✌️
Nice tests! Keep in mind that our brain “sees” improvement on an exponential curve meaning the x4 performance increase will be registered as x2. Anything less than 50% increase won’t be even noticed.
None of these Intel laptops are worth updating, I’m not parting with my mid 2014 which on top of that can still run older software I use (Aperture)
Thank you so much, I really needed that
thank you, will keep my 2013
Very helpful! Thanks!
havent ever touched a macbook but this was still entertaining
16" vs Retina: ua-cam.com/video/PHZmJ_nxMUc/v-deo.html
16" Review: ua-cam.com/video/_oghffBThrM/v-deo.html
Can you please upload a comparison against 2013 15" macbook vs 2019 16"
Yes! I will do a separate video of that right after the 16" review.
Nice vid!
Why a different scale for each graph? There are even log10 scaled ones for crying out loud. Confusing and misleading as hell.
Still working on a way to do better graphs. Though relatively they’re mostly fine, just some like the Logic Pro X one could be better.
Blacpink in your area
ofsanli YES
It's all a con, as Tim cook does not change much of the design or performance, to keep Costs down.
Hi, I lknow this video was 2yrs ago however do u still recommend MBP 2013 as of to this day? Thank you and I'd appreciate your response.
If you can get one at a good price and preferably a late 2013 model then yes
The late 2013 MacBook Pro is the best computer that Apple ever made in terms of build quality.
@@afn-bd2ro I have had one for a very long time. It has outlasted many of the newer MacBooks that my friends and family members owned. It also has a keyboard that does not break due to dust.
Will the late 2013 15 inch model work good for the next updates over the course of let's say 3 years?
As long as the GPU is supported going forward it should be fine.
Thanks.
I have a offer for a mbp 2014, brand new battery, always protection,no scratches whatsoever for a brilliant price.
The thing is the owner is a graphic designer and photographer, so I think the MacBook was using under constant work imagining she worked like 8 hours full capacity on graphic programmes etc. Should I worry or be concerned? Thanks
I think itll be fine. Apps like photoshop don't use all threads under many instances
I’m getting a 2013 MBP tomorrow
you really should not be showing graphs not starting at 0...you're exaggerating differences for no reason...BAD!
Is it just me or why did the 2013 MacBook look more smooth
Do you mean animation wise on the video?
CS Studios no
CS Studios & 1:51 when you scroll it looks more responsive and smoother
I see. This could be due to the graphics switching. I notice the older one with nvidia 650m transitions better from igpu to dgpu compared to the newer AMD models. However once the switching is done they’re about equal in smoothness
This dudes bracelet stops the hair from growing to his hands lmfaooo
Would You recomend the MBP 2013 for lightroom?
Yes, as long as it’s the 15” model. I can handle my nikon d300s/d750/z50/d500 images easily. My d800 images work too just a bit slower.
Hi. Which specifications are those (in therms of CPU)? Thanks.
2013: 2.3Ghz i7 (4850HQ) 2018: 2.2Ghz i7 (8750H)
can u remake that with 13"?
I dont have the 13 model however I have used both 2016 and 2014 13 models and my opinion is the same as this video. 13 2015 and older has better keyboard, all these ports etc. Screen on the 2016+ is better though.
Can 2013 be upgraded or everything is soldered?
You can upgrade/replace:
SSD (Apple or M.2 using adapter)
Battery
WiFi Card (airport board)
Everything else (CPU, RAM, etc. is soldered)
Fans, heatsink, speakers, logic board can of course be replaced.
@@cs.studios That's good to know, especially the SSD. But 2015 ssd is soldered, right? Thanks for this. really appreciate it.
@@denniszenanywhere 2015 can do same exact upgrades as 2013. 2016+ has soldered SSD. I recommend Late 2013 - Mid 2015 models for best keyboard/ports with the ability to increase storage and put in a new battery.
CS Studios I saw a video that says battery life in these old laptops average 4 hours. Good to know battery can be replaced. 4 hours is too short. 😊
@@cs.studios Btw, I hear this a lot about old Macbook pros. They explode. appleinsider.com/articles/19/05/30/macbook-pro-catches-on-fire-demonstrating-potential-danger-of-batteries
Do you encounter macbook pro touch bar with random crashes,freezes,reboots,keyboard issues?????
No the one I had was fine, just didn't like the ports and keyboard quality.
MBP 2018's speaker be like.. playing music on JBL bluetooth speaker
I have late 2013 Macbook Pro with i7 and is working fine except the cable is starting to wear and the battery is not like before. I was wondering whether to replace cable and battery or trade it in with a new MacBook pro. I think am going for the first option.
I'm almost done with my 2019 16" vs 2013 15" MBP video. Upon doing it I am also thinking of just getting a new battery, replace thermal paste and return the 16.
Very informative, thank you. my late 2013 15" mbp screens lcd has broke and i was wondering whether to pay for a repair or get a new one. Had my baby throughout my graphic design course and did set me back £2400 at the time. Think im going to get the screen fixed and hang on a few more years. Still purrs and iv never had an issue with it (since christmas 2013). Looked after it so much and im gutted the screen broke but £200-£300 third party or £500-£700 though apple is still much less than £2000-£2600 for a newer model.
Dont be cheap baby boomer
@@josezaragoza3188 Listen lad. Already got the i9 with 5500m 8gb VRAM.
On 2018 model there is not even one usb port, there need some specific adapter plug, is totally nonsense.
Welcome to dongle world. Unfortunately many windows laptops are like this too now
Hi,
I have a macbook pro 2013, I am going to buy a 34" widescreen ( 21:9) external monitor for it, I wonder if 2013 macbook pro supports 21:9 display aspect ratio or not? gpu for it is the graphic Intel(R) Iris(TM) Graphics 5100 . thanks
I believe you will need switchresx software
My man, what is wrong with your graphs? Stay consistent and use distinguishable colors between. Why are you changing graph colors every slide jesus christ
Yes sir noted for next time. I switched programs since this video so newer vids should have better pics.
@@cs.studios Great to hear :)
For any normal person, it is the information that was more relevant. And quite frankly didn't see anything wrong with the graphs. Not everyone is a graphic designer. - Coming from a graphic designer.
yes, using Kill this Love by BLackPink to test the sound was a great choice
Mate your graphs are crazy...
Sorry. I have since worked on this on newer videos.
Just got a 2015 13” for 500$ ;-)
Hi, i wonder how the i9 will perform in relation to these two
I've heard the newer 2019 i9 model seems to throttle less and it also has 8 cores so it should perform better. I'm waiting for the 16" macbook pro to review then we will see their latest and best.
Me: this is awsome people who dislike: I disagree me: bruh
downvote because of manipulative graph scale @ 5:21
Want to explain why it's manipulative? The render took seconds but the 2018 was 16% faster. Now imagine I used a more complex track that took the 2018 5 minutes to complete, the 2013 would take 6 minutes if scaled the same way. The longer the render time, the more apparent the difference would be. Since this was my first time working with these graphs I went with these, but scaling should be a bit more apparent next time around.
@@cs.studios My complaint is only with the scale of the graphs which you seem to recognize is the issue. The scale for the graph makes no sense for comparing the two values. The percent difference may be 16 percent but the graph scale visually implies that the 2018 is 4x the speed. It is much more accurate to have the X axis scale starting from zero. Otherwise it is good. I should re-phrase my original comment, the graph was not intentionally manipulative.
Yeah I plan to make the graphs much better for my upcoming videos. I tried using Keynote and have since switched to PowerPoint/Excel on my newer videos which produce better results.
ı have a 2015 one and it works pretty good!
2013 macbook pro is a dual core right?
13” dual core and 15” quad core
2013 is one of the best MacBooks ... but the thing is that now with their new ecosystem based on de M1 processor, soon it will be outdated not BC of its performance, but BC of Apple support on old MacBook pros. Sad because it works just as de first day I bought it. Although, there are some nasty stains due the staingate thing that is all over 2015 and before MacBook pros.
Since Apple still sells intel based macs we should see support for intel based macs for awhile. Might lose support for newest Os on 2015 and older macs in 1-2 versions
hi. I had the same problem with the screen because of Staingate and I found by using Baby Wipes, it removes the top layer that caused the problem in the first place and now the screen is as good as new, I hope it helps
"Should you upgrade ?"
Yes, upgrade to PC.
i feel that for the price the 2015 is just find, it just well with no problem and it will hold for the next 5 years, plus you will safe your self around 500 dollars lmaoo
I think you'll save like $1000 buying 2015 model instead of newer ones lol
what is your wallpaper?
The one on the 2018 macbook? I'm not sure it's been quite awhile since I last had used that laptop sorry.
The first seconds I listened to this, I thought: dafuq, did he inhale Helium?
You know macbooks are a loooooooot better than windows(except gaming and customisation which most of users dont feel like a problem) when2013 macbooks that is being reviewed as of now
No windows laptop more than 1 year gets reviewed by youtubers after years of its release
Because windows laptops don't last long😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😂😂😂
M1 macs will crush windows 😂😀😀😀😀😂😂
Some will argue mac sucks, gaming sucks, but deep down these are the guys (including me who once used idiotic windows laptop) who struggle a lot with their laptop battery
No freedom to travel outside for more than 4 hours
Long live Mac, Long live Mac OS , Long live Apple silicon processor
M1 video coming next week. Looking good so far
2018 MacBook
很好的视频, 我也觉得我2013年的macbook pro 13寸性能还不错, 而且touchbar没有太大必要, 只是265G SSD 太小了点, 我是程序员, 至少需要512G
您可以使用NVMe SSD和M.2适配器替换2013 13英寸macbook pro上的SSD。
Great
apple is quckly becoming a ripoff company. believe me, I worked on macs simce 1996
Kill this love
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@@pretendcampus5410 That's the name of one of the songs I played.
Lol im here for that 🤣🤣🤣
this gave me asmr
In short, you subliminally just admitted to everyone you are gay.
You're welcome.... 😇
is this fckn real ? i can not believe that .jesus! how could 2013 be like 2018 they are so close each other.
I just got a 2017 model and it’s not faster at all than my 2013 lol. I recommend the new 16 for something that’s different
@@cs.studios i bought late 2013 15" yesterday,man it is awesome.Screen is perfect,there is not eve 1 scratch neither on screen nor on case,has 500 cyle,m really happy with it.It is not like 2013,more like 2023 lol xkskdn.
I see blackpink in the Thumbnail and I clicked
...was that black pink-
Yeah
很多笨蛋依然認為年份越近效能越高，重點在規格
新筆記本電腦運行熱，效果不佳。每個人都認為他們更好。
+ NVME= 2018
UWU Blackpink in ur areaaa~✨😂
Blackpink as you should
that background tho
Blackpink nice
iris pro edram
How much would you sell me your macbook 2013 for
Unless Apple releases a completely redesigned MacBook Pro, I’m keeping mine =]
@@cs.studios Good Choice. This shit good to go another 3-4 years. Apple can keep stupid touchbar and crappy keyboard. 2013 has excellent keyboard compare to new models. All we need is work done.
Grease quala touch bar is actually useful lol
Stick with the older Macbook pro.
Max out the ram to 16 gb, switch your hard disk to a SSD - Solid State Drive.
VERY noticeably quicker.
Your cpu, temp may change but do not be concerned SSD's have different temps
"Most SSDs are rated for running within a temperature . 32'F to 158'F, 0'C to 70'C." Google's answer on What temperature should a SSD run at on a laptop.