If MVPs Were Given to the BEST Player... (2010s)

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  • The NBA gives its MVP awards to players who meet certain criterias... but what if the MVP was just given to the best player? We're looking at who would win it in those cases from the 2010s.
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  • @jonnyarnett
    @jonnyarnett  3 роки тому +740

    Which MVP snub deserves the award?

    • @tya7664
      @tya7664 3 роки тому +43

      dirk

    • @tya7664
      @tya7664 3 роки тому +132

      dirk for 2019 mvp

    • @d44detzyzry6e8
      @d44detzyzry6e8 3 роки тому +15

      Chicago gang wya?

    • @swaggawagga5235
      @swaggawagga5235 3 роки тому +16

      @@tya7664 u stupid

    • @Yruke
      @Yruke 3 роки тому +56

      In my opinion Harden should have 4 MVP awards. 2015, 2017, 2018 and 2019

  • @danielschafer3296
    @danielschafer3296 3 роки тому +2567

    In 2014, Kevin Durant was named the league MVP, but in this new format, he loses the award to his mom, the real MVP.

    • @bubbletea6934
      @bubbletea6934 2 роки тому +38

      His mom underrated as f

    • @fanwee5048
      @fanwee5048 2 роки тому +12

      Stolen

    • @camrose306
      @camrose306 2 роки тому +11

      @Oregato769 from where? Also there’s 7 billion people in the world it’s stupid to think two people can’t think of the same joke or something similar

    • @Biggrittz
      @Biggrittz 2 роки тому +39

      @Oregato769 in 2021, Dainel Schafer Was Named the Most liked comment award, but in this New format. He loses to the award to Oregato769.
      Depsite Daniel’s amazing output, with performance of 1012 Likes, 5 Comments, and a hearted Comment From Jonny On 52.2% Positive Rating. People undermine the context this year, Dainel actually had equal commenting skills to oregato. Whom might have not had the like amount of Dainel, but DWARFS Dainel’s positive rating percentage with 64.9% .. this year, in this format the award should have went to oregato.

    • @mexicanmegamind1881
      @mexicanmegamind1881 Рік тому +3

      In all seriousness his mom was a G

  • @ACIMRobert
    @ACIMRobert 3 роки тому +1458

    KD: You the real MVP
    Jonny: Actually this year they lose the award....

    • @aiden-tee636
      @aiden-tee636 3 роки тому +1

      you mean

    • @AidanK_
      @AidanK_ 3 роки тому +102

      "Actually the award goes to... Lebron's mom. She is the more complete mom"

    • @ryanadam3720
      @ryanadam3720 3 роки тому +33

      Aidan Delonte west agrees

    • @lebronforpresident2359
      @lebronforpresident2359 3 роки тому +9

      😭😭 this comment is fucking hilarious

    • @ethan9409
      @ethan9409 3 роки тому +8

      Aidan her caregiving efficiency was way higher then Durant’s mother. Her discipline stats are off the charts.

  • @elijahdelacruz3204
    @elijahdelacruz3204 3 роки тому +320

    "I think we us a basketball community have already lost track of how incredible Steph Curry was during the 2016 season"
    Straight facts right there

    • @sui_comet
      @sui_comet 2 роки тому +3

      Especially now

    • @txcNexus
      @txcNexus 2 роки тому +2

      2020 steph is amazing as well

    • @andale_andale
      @andale_andale 2 роки тому +2

      @@txcNexus you mean 2021?

    • @txcNexus
      @txcNexus 2 роки тому +1

      @@andale_andale last year steph

    • @snowy1142
      @snowy1142 Рік тому

      Not during the playoffs tho

  • @jj4284
    @jj4284 3 роки тому +359

    Durant gets mvp:
    Jonny: he looses the award to his mom

  • @johnpeter2762
    @johnpeter2762 3 роки тому +2642

    different title
    "How LeBron dominates the NBA in 2010s and could've won more MVP's award"

    • @100kkeese3
      @100kkeese3 3 роки тому +344

      Correction; should’ve won more(not a LeBron fan)

    • @arnar5079
      @arnar5079 3 роки тому +241

      Pick any team in the playoffs and they are a serious contender in the 90s

    • @Top-Kek
      @Top-Kek 3 роки тому +80

      “Dominates the nba” *loses 5 NBA finals*

    • @spiderman4207
      @spiderman4207 3 роки тому +217

      Top Kek only 1 of those loses was his fault

    • @jamesryan6458
      @jamesryan6458 3 роки тому +3

      imagine lebron win all 8 award hahaha

  • @gavinreid7442
    @gavinreid7442 3 роки тому +1604

    10 more years and you can make this video again😂, facts!

    • @qmajc18
      @qmajc18 3 роки тому +24

      U really think we r gonna make it 10 years

    • @acetv5333
      @acetv5333 3 роки тому +10

      End of 2020: 🙄😂

    • @fatpatgoat4649
      @fatpatgoat4649 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah aight

    • @sammiejuwon779
      @sammiejuwon779 3 роки тому +1

      QMAJC18 ‘ 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @jetsettech8804
      @jetsettech8804 3 роки тому +4

      Why did you say facts?

  • @QaamansLand
    @QaamansLand 3 роки тому +1367

    Don't forget that in 2014 KD mostly won MVP because Russ was injured for the first half of the year.
    KD got OKC to 59 wins with his second best player hurt and that made voters pick him over LeBron.

    • @TheDbgtfan23
      @TheDbgtfan23 3 роки тому +7

      Ayyy qaaman

    • @SmittySmith-ev8fo
      @SmittySmith-ev8fo 3 роки тому +3

      False

    • @SmittySmith-ev8fo
      @SmittySmith-ev8fo 3 роки тому +34

      They pick him. Because hes deserve. Kd should have 3 mvp 2012,2013,2014, I'm done good day

    • @geeyawn1160
      @geeyawn1160 3 роки тому +98

      @@SmittySmith-ev8fo nope kd isnt great defensively before...and lebron had better effeciency rate

    • @SmittySmith-ev8fo
      @SmittySmith-ev8fo 3 роки тому +8

      @@geeyawn1160 sorry I hurt your feelings it's ok if your wrong

  • @abdulmalekrk3693
    @abdulmalekrk3693 3 роки тому +563

    2019 James Harden was an absolute phenomenon. The dude averaged 36 per GAME!
    30p for 32 games streak
    Had 61 points twice
    Dropped 50+ booms 7 times two of them were back-to-back games!
    20 time had a 40+ points!
    I know Harden is one of the most hatted players in the league, but even the biggest hatter could not neglect this phenomenal season.

    • @pillsenthe3rd795
      @pillsenthe3rd795 3 роки тому +70

      Yeah its so sad knowing that the nba will never appreciate harden

    • @abdulmalekrk3693
      @abdulmalekrk3693 3 роки тому +24

      senyon selt
      Harden most take it to the next level and win a championship. The NBA will never appreciate him because of his style of playing. So he should force them to do so.

    • @pillsenthe3rd795
      @pillsenthe3rd795 3 роки тому +7

      @@abdulmalekrk3693 Yeah but i dont see him winning a championship without a big change occurring to him or his team.

    • @abdulmalekrk3693
      @abdulmalekrk3693 3 роки тому +2

      Leland Joseph
      This is not a stats.
      I walked you through James Harden scoring in 61 games. With remainder that I didn’t mention assist or steal which considered a good features on Harden.
      With q huge reminder that Giannes playing in the East which is the weaker said of the NBA.
      If you played in any type of organization basketball you would know who difficult to score 30 points in one night.

    • @jonathandowe83
      @jonathandowe83 3 роки тому +15

      @Leland Joseph harden was the only team to take the super team warriors to 7, and could have won without the cp3 injury. So I think those stats perfectly showcase value

  • @bamshakfwangyil1301
    @bamshakfwangyil1301 3 роки тому +1261

    tbh Curry's MVP numbers were due to him playing significantly less minutes than any other MVPs. In fact the lowest minutes played by an MVP ever are '15 curry then '16 curry. Those low numbers were simply cause he blew teams out, still easily deserved the award

    • @AB-kk4lf
      @AB-kk4lf 3 роки тому +80

      Currys per 36 in '15 is 26 and 9 mvp level for sure

    • @gabrielsykes4125
      @gabrielsykes4125 3 роки тому +57

      True but remember he’s not using team success as a swaying factor you could make a case for Davis, and Harden’s MVP odds in 2015 even though their team success was mediocre compared to Curry’s, but 2016? Not even close in fact 20 games in I truly believe Curry stole that award and ran off with it. No one could even come close to Curry’s historical dominance in 2016, I’d even argue that his “2016” season is a top 3 MVP season of all time behind MJ’s, and SHAQ’s.

    • @csorare
      @csorare 3 роки тому +2

      He also won due to more emotional reasons

    • @acetv5333
      @acetv5333 3 роки тому +15

      @@jasonmoukala8909 Of course, but '16 Curry dominance is insane.

    • @jasonmoukala8909
      @jasonmoukala8909 3 роки тому

      No Name That’s fax

  • @wessteinfeld3337
    @wessteinfeld3337 3 роки тому +474

    Curry Man... 50/40/90!! People so easily forget that's INSANE!! 46% 3pt percentage?!! Sheeeeeeesh!!!!

    • @Greenfrom3
      @Greenfrom3 3 роки тому +8

      I hate his guts. But he's absolutely nasty.

    • @owenridenhour5264
      @owenridenhour5264 3 роки тому +5

      Wes Steinfeld what’s crazy is that 46 percent still isn’t the highest 3 point percentage in a season

    • @Greenfrom3
      @Greenfrom3 3 роки тому +21

      @@owenridenhour5264 Yeah Didn't Korver have 54% or some crazy shit?

    • @wessteinfeld3337
      @wessteinfeld3337 3 роки тому +1

      @@Greenfrom3 Got Dayummm

    • @silverfang4583
      @silverfang4583 3 роки тому +4

      @@owenridenhour5264 In saying that didn't he have the highest 3 point attempts that season or bloody close so it kinda evens out a bit

  • @doscruzz
    @doscruzz 3 роки тому +331

    How about a "If the MVP Award included the playoffs"

    • @GeneralthekidPlaysMC
      @GeneralthekidPlaysMC 3 роки тому +194

      Then it would be LeBron every year 😂

    • @doscruzz
      @doscruzz 3 роки тому +15

      @@GeneralthekidPlaysMC facts

    • @4babyk425
      @4babyk425 3 роки тому +36

      Lebron would win every year

    • @CzarAice01
      @CzarAice01 3 роки тому +2

      LeBron wins every year

    • @blackscreen1810
      @blackscreen1810 3 роки тому

      @@GeneralthekidPlaysMC no other wouldnt cause hed be playing the bums in the east

  • @envoxzerth3312
    @envoxzerth3312 3 роки тому +26

    D rose was just a human highlight loved him back in the day

  • @BigYARK
    @BigYARK 3 роки тому +505

    Kareem's got a decade's worth of MVPs in this format 😂

    • @exwhyzgaming8996
      @exwhyzgaming8996 3 роки тому +4

      exactly

    • @willz3421
      @willz3421 3 роки тому +28

      He played his prime in the 70’s so it makes sense

    • @robdadon2022
      @robdadon2022 3 роки тому +9

      That's why you simply just don't give it to the best player that would be goofy

    • @BigYARK
      @BigYARK 3 роки тому +28

      @SkyH23 personally, the 70s are underrated imo and full of talent. There were stars spread throughout the league, but no dynasties. If I'm not mistaken, Lakers missed the playoffs that year because of the outdated format of team selection. By today's standard, they would've been seeded. If anything it shows how badass Kareem was to win MVP and not make the playoffs. Dude put up 27.7pts 16.9reb 5ast 4.1blks and 1.5 stls

    • @SuperMisteryMan01
      @SuperMisteryMan01 3 роки тому +2

      SkyH23 there is still athletes back then anyways but you’re not gonna know about it unless you go and find the footage.
      If I’m not mistaken the 70’s besides the 80’s and 90’s also has a vast amount of talented centers and big men

  • @SuperWoodb
    @SuperWoodb 3 роки тому +409

    When I heard Anthony Davis, I thought no way he's about to convince me that AD should've won MVP, but then he actually did.

    • @Rk-xx1sg
      @Rk-xx1sg 3 роки тому +33

      it's cap lol immaculate cap ad didn't deserve it

    • @Hak616
      @Hak616 3 роки тому +11

      That was shocking, but looks legit in retrospect in context to where AD is and the feats he is pulling off in the playoffs

    • @Rk-xx1sg
      @Rk-xx1sg 3 роки тому +6

      @@Hak616 nah ad never been mvp material so far in his career apart from this year

    • @hastaar2161
      @hastaar2161 3 роки тому +2

      He got lucky cuz Curry had two mvp years if not he would get clamped

    • @z0tl410
      @z0tl410 3 роки тому

      1 k 🧢

  • @michaeljordan6074
    @michaeljordan6074 3 роки тому +3

    I like how unbiased your videos are and how much you really look into the numbers. Ngl I never would have thought about that ad MVP pick toll now. You just earned a sub. Keep up the good work

  • @iEliTePg
    @iEliTePg 3 роки тому +1

    Love that you added in the list at the end for old/new winners at the end. Perfect addition.
    Glad to see a youtuber who reads comments 🙌🏽🙌🏽 big fan now

  • @envymeh_
    @envymeh_ 3 роки тому +333

    That AD MVP caught me off guard!

    • @Rk-xx1sg
      @Rk-xx1sg 3 роки тому +32

      Lol ad definitely should not have won

    • @MrPhilbautista
      @MrPhilbautista 3 роки тому +13

      Just goes to show why Curry was definitely the right choice IRL.

    • @Abcdefg-rk8jk
      @Abcdefg-rk8jk 3 роки тому +6

      @@MrPhilbautista ah 15 was harden

    • @droland3949
      @droland3949 3 роки тому +30

      @ALONZO.ADDISON 103858 did you watch the video??? team win rates were not counted.

    • @younggod3906
      @younggod3906 2 роки тому +1

      @@MrPhilbautista facts

  • @HoelJ
    @HoelJ 3 роки тому +353

    2020: alex caruso
    keeps

    • @keres9580
      @keres9580 3 роки тому

      FormlessApple he had that award from 2010-2020 and kept all of them

    • @pirmaiscalispagalma1479
      @pirmaiscalispagalma1479 3 роки тому +1

      See what you did there👴🏻

    • @keres9580
      @keres9580 3 роки тому

      PirmaisČalisPagalmā huh?

    • @pirmaiscalispagalma1479
      @pirmaiscalispagalma1479 3 роки тому

      ItsKD you know, Keeps, the bailding treatment company?

    • @keres9580
      @keres9580 3 роки тому

      PirmaisČalisPagalmā oh yeah

  • @QaamansLand
    @QaamansLand 3 роки тому +427

    Solid list but the 2015 choice is shocking. Instead of Davis or Curry Harden should have won. You make a very good case that Harden should possibly have 3 mvps.

    • @jackbaruffi6256
      @jackbaruffi6256 3 роки тому +7

      no lebron should have won

    • @cade9173
      @cade9173 3 роки тому +1

      Jacoby2k exactly

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand 3 роки тому +46

      @@jackbaruffi6256 In 2015? That was the year he regressed in the regular season for his paleo diet. LeBron beasted in the playoffs all alone but in 2015 the regular season was Harden's to lose.

    • @N-Ice_
      @N-Ice_ 3 роки тому +11

      How can you have 3 MVP's without defense? That's really stupid

    • @dumberoni1023
      @dumberoni1023 3 роки тому +8

      Nikita Mitchenkov star player defense is so overrated, jordan, kobe, and lebron never actually guarded the other teams best player primarily since it would take away from their offensive production, thats what role players are for

  • @44strat
    @44strat 3 роки тому +14

    Would be interesting to see this applied to finals MVP where with the exception of Jerry West has always been given to a player on the Winning Team.

  • @chanendlerbong
    @chanendlerbong 3 роки тому +542

    That 2011 Rose and 2016 Curry are very special MVPs

    • @blackmamba2k899
      @blackmamba2k899 3 роки тому +119

      D rose MVP year has now become a bit overrated...

    • @409p
      @409p 3 роки тому +142

      @@blackmamba2k899 yes it was a great season but people act like he averaged 50 points 25 rebounds and 25 assists

    • @abizitgill4310
      @abizitgill4310 3 роки тому +92

      They are the reason why I believe context, the teammates, the record, and the story of the season do matter somewhat,
      Without context stats are just empty numbers

    • @owethunala2632
      @owethunala2632 3 роки тому +16

      @@409p no... Ur only looking at the stats and not the context if you need me to explain jus say

    • @owethunala2632
      @owethunala2632 3 роки тому +4

      @@blackmamba2k899 no...

  • @hyendacraener1672
    @hyendacraener1672 3 роки тому +472

    I don’t know how you only have 60k you go extremely in depth in how players are better than they seem, like last episode when you did the 90’s you gave Charles Barkley and David Robinson credit for their great seasons even though they weren’t talked about as much, Thank for giving me some content for quarantine 👍

    • @ACIMRobert
      @ACIMRobert 3 роки тому +8

      Very accurate comment

    • @Life_Basketball
      @Life_Basketball 3 роки тому +2

      @Nicholas Garcia yeah fax

    • @kizvy
      @kizvy 3 роки тому +3

      @Nicholas Garcia agree

    • @Spuurtzithink
      @Spuurtzithink 3 роки тому +1

      Accurate he deserves at least 5 mil

    • @hyendacraener1672
      @hyendacraener1672 3 роки тому

      Darryl Davis no I’m just saying that given Michael, Magic, and other superstars were more talked about and vocal, David Robinson was never a media fan like Tim Duncan and the spurs were, and Charles Barkley is looked at and said “how the hell did that guy win mvp?”I was just saying how those guys need more credit while putting up those stats during a hard era.

  • @eddieadams9333
    @eddieadams9333 3 роки тому +1

    Great job man, keep up the good work. Great individual content making, have not experienced this a while ago. Carry on mate🍻

  • @wadetuaupiki9651
    @wadetuaupiki9651 3 роки тому +1

    Wow this channel is a hidden gem 💎 great vids man 👌🏽

  • @heimtime_lifting
    @heimtime_lifting 3 роки тому +258

    Analytically Lebron beats Rose, but analytics don’t do Rose justice. His season was one of the few ever I would describe as magical. Dom2k did a video on why he should have won and it did it so much more justice than I can in this comment so I recommend you check it out.

    • @benperez8291
      @benperez8291 3 роки тому +59

      Roses season is becoming so overrated it’s fuckin unreal

    • @benperez8291
      @benperez8291 3 роки тому +28

      Musab Marzouque the same people who cry that context matters are the same people who say Giannis is the mvp despite lebron having a better narrative... roses season was good but holy shit it was no where near lebron, that’s why Lebron spanked him as soon as the playoffs came

    • @alandowning7460
      @alandowning7460 3 роки тому +6

      CaydeIrving03 chill bro

    • @heimtime_lifting
      @heimtime_lifting 3 роки тому +27

      CaydeIrving03 put rose on Miami and Lebron in Chicago and Rose wins in 5 no cap.

    • @nicksamp515
      @nicksamp515 3 роки тому +22

      Again, this video isn't the same as dom2k made for the 2011 mvp argument. His points are based on ACTUAL MVP selection criteria, while jonny's vid, is focused on how the MVP each year will be IF it's based on production (stats) and impact on both ends of the floor (defensively and offensively). Lebron had better overall stats and individual impact, while rose had the 'against all odds' narrative edge plus the best team record in the NBA while being the team's best player.

  • @gremun1833
    @gremun1833 3 роки тому +92

    love this series

    • @owenbenedictpangan3553
      @owenbenedictpangan3553 3 роки тому +1

      Too bad its not 2059. I guess this is the last one for 10 or so years

  • @comahan
    @comahan 3 роки тому +46

    Harden "solid" in 2015? Come on, man. 27-6-7-2 on 61% true shooting, and led the league in win shares. Thats literally the formula you used to give others the award and you didn't even run down his year, as if he wasnt in the conversation.
    He was also clearly the best player in 2018.

    • @TheKendeHD
      @TheKendeHD 3 роки тому +5

      and forsure 2019

    • @banterlona8166
      @banterlona8166 3 роки тому +4

      I'm convinced he just doesn't like harden smh

    • @aaravv.5649
      @aaravv.5649 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheKendeHD no LeBron got robbed in 2018

    • @chrisuncleahmad
      @chrisuncleahmad 2 роки тому +5

      2015 Harden led an injured Rockets team to a 2 seed in a division where LITERALLY THE ENTIRE SOUTHWEST DIVISION MADE THE PLAYOFFS

    • @coltonkrum6491
      @coltonkrum6491 2 роки тому +1

      If you factor in defense as being equally important as offense, I wouldn't say that he was the best player, but he definitely deserves props for his work then

  • @noamcohen8189
    @noamcohen8189 3 роки тому +1

    love those videos, do it every year🙏🏾

  • @jimpickens568
    @jimpickens568 3 роки тому +30

    YO I WAS WATCHING THE 90s AND 00s THIS MORNING WONDERING WHERE THE 10s WERE THANK YOU!

  • @dvon1097
    @dvon1097 3 роки тому +9

    Also you should do this for the finals MVPs because theres been several instances where a player on a losing team who was the best player

  • @jordandavis3867
    @jordandavis3867 Рік тому +5

    That 2016 season by Curry is a reason why he is in my top 10. Noone will ever replicate that level of efficiency. He was operating like a video game.

  • @abnerutomo9806
    @abnerutomo9806 3 роки тому +57

    Do another video for every award. DPOY, ROY, 6MOY, MIP, COTY. Will be fire 🔥

    • @faded8093
      @faded8093 3 роки тому +6

      Coty will be boring as hell

    • @d44detzyzry6e8
      @d44detzyzry6e8 3 роки тому

      @@faded8093 on god 😂😂😂 steve ker

    • @masterbitter7688
      @masterbitter7688 3 роки тому +1

      rookie basketball fan here, what are those abbreviations mean?

    • @d44detzyzry6e8
      @d44detzyzry6e8 3 роки тому

      @@masterbitter7688 bro?

    • @masterbitter7688
      @masterbitter7688 3 роки тому

      @@d44detzyzry6e8 i know rookie of the year and defensive player of the year but what is 6MOY, MIP and COTY?

  • @mercury7886
    @mercury7886 3 роки тому +13

    I'm glad you mentioned Anthony Davis here. His performance on the Pelicans before Rondo and Cousins goes under the radar nowadays. He had a really impressive series against the Warriors, despite the loss. In my eyes he has been a complete player for much longer than people remember. Hell, he even shared cover athlete status with Steph and Harden on 2K that year.

  • @ArcLove
    @ArcLove 3 роки тому +1

    Hi 👋🏾 great job, I believe you were truly impartial on your list good Job!

  • @logandukes5984
    @logandukes5984 3 роки тому +1

    im a new sub this is good stuff I really enjoy the way you talk

  • @yudonnom3
    @yudonnom3 3 роки тому +6

    ive been waiting for this. excited!

  • @cursedtk9768
    @cursedtk9768 3 роки тому +3

    This series is legit one of the best I've ever seen

  • @QaamansLand
    @QaamansLand 3 роки тому +148

    1980's?

    • @abdullhameedalazzavi3119
      @abdullhameedalazzavi3119 3 роки тому +6

      it's just old era that I don't thimk many would get interested watching although I would love to see this kind of a video

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  3 роки тому +67

      I’m working on it right now 👍 A lot of my subs are older gents. It may not get as many views in general, but I do think a lot of people would enjoy it, so I think it’s worth doing :)

    • @abdullhameedalazzavi3119
      @abdullhameedalazzavi3119 3 роки тому +3

      @@jonnyarnett exactly. wish you luck

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand 3 роки тому +11

      @@jonnyarnett Respectfully disagree. A video featuring Magic MJ and Bird will be greatly watched. The 80's modernized BBALL as you well know. Look forward to your breakdown.

    • @calamorta
      @calamorta 3 роки тому +1

      Miss you posting videos frequently, Qaaman.

  • @gillpeakperformance4945
    @gillpeakperformance4945 3 роки тому

    This is an awesome series!

  • @Splackavellie85
    @Splackavellie85 3 роки тому +145

    You only need to look at 2016 Steph to see why “logo” Lillard won’t ever come close to being a better shooter. Lillard is great, but that season alone solidified Steph as the greatest shooter ever.

    • @deanoss777
      @deanoss777 3 роки тому +31

      only dumbasses think Lillard is a better shooter than Curry

    • @4kbandz567
      @4kbandz567 3 роки тому +3

      Michael Dean i think Lillard a better player tho

    • @yellowastronaut2921
      @yellowastronaut2921 3 роки тому +2

      @@4kbandz567 2019 WCF yes

    • @yellowastronaut2921
      @yellowastronaut2921 3 роки тому +30

      @@4kbandz567 cant spell Logo Lillard without 4 Ls

    • @4kbandz567
      @4kbandz567 3 роки тому +2

      Yellow atleast he not a sellout n need the best team ever to win 👍🏻

  • @thebudapestgambler8832
    @thebudapestgambler8832 3 роки тому +69

    I would love to see one about the 80’s as well. I want to know how many mvp thropies Jordan would have 😅
    Thanks for this series! :)

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  3 роки тому +32

      Yep, 80s are getting one too! Thanks for supporting my channel :)

    • @blackmamba2k899
      @blackmamba2k899 3 роки тому +12

      Jordan would not win more than 2, Magic, Bird, Kareem, Moses, Dr J

    • @Sewrays
      @Sewrays 3 роки тому

      Yes would be a good eaxample of the better player loosing to better teams

    • @robglobal1
      @robglobal1 3 роки тому +1

      If the Bulls werent full of crack heads and actually a decent team he'd have it almost every year. Even the greats at that time admitted in Jordan's rookie season he was the best player they had ever seen and back then players didnt give props like that even if they knew the truth. They werent all as friendly as players today

    • @frankenviews4069
      @frankenviews4069 3 роки тому +1

      My bet for the 80's decade MVP would be Bird. I know he only got 3 rings to Magic's 5, but he was always the best player on his team from 1980 onward, which was one of the top two teams for the 80's, while Magic only became the Lakers top dog midway into the decade. Jordan was the better player in the 80's but these were his losing years.

  • @hanninaur
    @hanninaur 3 роки тому +46

    This video proves they just got tired of giving lebron the MVP award. Dude always had 26+-8-8 50%

    • @sh1nighami
      @sh1nighami 3 роки тому +7

      and 40% 3p in 12/13

    • @letstalkbasketball727
      @letstalkbasketball727 2 роки тому

      Nah sometimes he just didn’t deserve it

    • @the757general2
      @the757general2 2 роки тому

      @@letstalkbasketball727 All four of LeBron's MVP he deserved and he should've won in 2011 as well

    • @letstalkbasketball727
      @letstalkbasketball727 2 роки тому

      @@the757general2 not 2010 and arguably 2012

    • @sir.muffiniii7011
      @sir.muffiniii7011 3 місяці тому

      @@letstalkbasketball7272012 was one of the greatest seasons ever and those Miami 12-13 years are the second best peak ever imo

  • @apapadopulos9868
    @apapadopulos9868 3 роки тому

    What i love this is that he doesn’t mind that the same guy wins a lot. People loose their capability to be amazed by some players. People get bored of the same team or player keep winning even if they deserve it. Good job.

  • @dilshanhettiarachchi5491
    @dilshanhettiarachchi5491 3 роки тому +232

    Only disagreements would be 2017 being Harden (efficiency difference is too big for me) and 2019 being Harden as well. Though I agree with LeBron over Harden in 2018.
    Also you should use only true shooting instead of FG%. If you want to measure just shooting, then use eFG%.

    • @songaS
      @songaS 3 роки тому +33

      also he used the to's per game thing in 2017 but westbrook was a really close second place to that trailing by 0.3, and harden was 3rd seed and westbrook was 6th. not even gonna mention the playoffs

    • @thenamethename7250
      @thenamethename7250 3 роки тому +11

      Mississipi Sherman what is westbrook supposed to do with taj gibson and alex abrines as his best teammates

    • @Invictus-Solaris
      @Invictus-Solaris 3 роки тому +4

      Dilshan Hettiarachchi I think you literally missed the introduction of his video...

    • @dilshanhettiarachchi5491
      @dilshanhettiarachchi5491 3 роки тому

      @@Invictus-Solaris How so?

    • @Invictus-Solaris
      @Invictus-Solaris 3 роки тому +4

      Dilshan Hettiarachchi Also... Harden is overrated.

  • @charlesking4843
    @charlesking4843 3 роки тому +12

    Damn good video with solid facts to support your arguments. You and Jimmy highroller have to be the best NBA historians on UA-cam. You provide consistently great content and I thank you for your efforts.

  • @LifeWith_Chloe
    @LifeWith_Chloe 2 роки тому

    You are so Underrated Your vids are the Best

  • @arounangame3820
    @arounangame3820 3 роки тому +1

    I woke up this morning and i was waiting for this

  • @jakemackay1747
    @jakemackay1747 3 роки тому +3

    I’ve been waiting for this

  • @cashmoneysniper4166
    @cashmoneysniper4166 3 роки тому +3

    I adore these videos😂

  • @edgm.14
    @edgm.14 2 роки тому +6

    2018 Bron still one of the craziest runs I’ve seen

    • @enigmatic.
      @enigmatic. 2 роки тому

      For real man. As some one who's from Cleveland that shit was insane to watch. He played out of his mind.

  • @Jearbearjenkins
    @Jearbearjenkins 2 роки тому +6

    So I tallied each video’s results cause I had free time and (keep in mind that this excludes the 50s and 60s) these are the rankings:
    1. Kareem (9)
    2. MJ (8)
    3. Lebron (6)
    4. Shaq (3)
    Kobe (3)
    Moses Malone (3)
    5. Karl Malone (2)
    Kevin Garnett (2)
    Larry Bird (2)
    6. (All have 1 MVP)
    Jerry West
    Bob McAdoo
    Hakeem
    Robinson
    Tim Duncan
    Magic
    CP3
    KD
    Steph Curry
    AD
    Westbrook
    Giannis

    • @bbbggg5709
      @bbbggg5709 2 роки тому

      Lol nahhhh I think every mvp is well selected

  • @tfz2101
    @tfz2101 3 роки тому +3

    This channel deserves more subscribers

  • @keyanasadi9588
    @keyanasadi9588 3 роки тому +2

    Please do the 60s 70s and 80s, love this series keep up the amazing work

  • @NickPR87
    @NickPR87 3 роки тому +3

    Giannis does so many things on both ends of the floor and makes them look effortless and unselfish. He really does play like a Superstar role player if you can call him that. I've never once watched him play and perceived him as trying to put up huge numbers, he just does based on energy, length, awareness and hustle.

  • @ohmyrufiohhh1303
    @ohmyrufiohhh1303 3 роки тому +4

    Harden had like 10 games of 50 points or more that season including a 60 point triple double. He was the sole reason for the rockets even making the playoffs in a tough western conference.

  • @brandon46brandon
    @brandon46brandon 3 роки тому +4

    You should do this with defensive player of the year, rookie of the year etc... like so he can see!

  • @joshuamoonilal4578
    @joshuamoonilal4578 3 роки тому +6

    Lebron games in 2018...is the GREATEST player of all time. I love and respect MJ in fact I am a fan, but NO ONE will ever be greater than 2018 lebron.

    • @Don-zh2sb
      @Don-zh2sb 2 роки тому

      2018 is not even the best lebron

  • @AdiOetomo
    @AdiOetomo 3 роки тому +1

    Can’t wait for the 80s. Great series 👍🏻

  • @nitro4472
    @nitro4472 3 роки тому +2

    If it was given to the best player, it would be you Jonny. U Da Real MVP.

  • @norriz78
    @norriz78 3 роки тому +71

    Harden should’ve won 2019 mvp

    • @edwiener9666
      @edwiener9666 3 роки тому +10

      Fax giannis should have just won the dpoy instead of mvp

    • @justdont4215
      @justdont4215 3 роки тому

      You mean 2018-19 or 2019-20?

    • @pyrozendynasty7849
      @pyrozendynasty7849 3 роки тому +1

      @@justdont4215 probably 2018-2019. Giannis deserved 2020 no doubt

    • @justdont4215
      @justdont4215 3 роки тому +4

      @@pyrozendynasty7849 I think 2018-19 was just too close. Harden was definitely better offensively but defensively giannis was basically the best in the league and the bucks had the better record. 36 6 7 though is still hard to pass on.

    • @kakilla1000
      @kakilla1000 3 роки тому

      4sure man!!! 17-19 was all Harden

  • @RJB-V
    @RJB-V 3 роки тому +3

    goddammit, now i have to wait 10 years for the 2020s video.

  • @jaykaynum5569
    @jaykaynum5569 11 місяців тому

    AD!?😂. Great video 💯

  • @markhinde710
    @markhinde710 3 роки тому +4

    You need to do this for the 2019-2020 season for all awards after they finally name MVP. You should also do this for Finals MVPs, ASG MVPs, DPOY, ROY, MIP, etc.

  • @gray_gogy
    @gray_gogy 3 роки тому +5

    Your intro is probably my favorite intro from all basketball channels.

  • @MJIZZEL
    @MJIZZEL 3 роки тому +4

    Sooo...so far LeBron 6 mvps in this format and Jordan only 5....so far! Still got the 80's to do. Can't wait!

  • @CapitalP177
    @CapitalP177 3 роки тому

    Great series

  • @Noah-fi9js
    @Noah-fi9js 3 роки тому +1

    You should do the 80s,70s and 60s then after your done that finish off the series by comparing how many MVPS players would have in this new format and who would have the most,etc.

  • @cassiusfelix2805
    @cassiusfelix2805 3 роки тому +37

    Think LeBron James should of won more MVPs throughout his career.

    • @newphonewhodis8833
      @newphonewhodis8833 3 роки тому +1

      And 2 DPOY awards

    • @akchubeats3758
      @akchubeats3758 3 роки тому +1

      @@newphonewhodis8833 nah 1

    • @newphonewhodis8833
      @newphonewhodis8833 3 роки тому

      @@akchubeats3758 at least. I'm pretty sure he finished 2nd to centers at least 2 times

    • @logoat12
      @logoat12 3 роки тому

      Same with Jordan

    • @connorsmith6517
      @connorsmith6517 3 роки тому +3

      I wish the media wouldn’t of cheated him out of 1-2 MVPs. He deserves to have 5-6 MVPs on his resume, part of me thinks they didn’t want him in the same category of MJ, KAJ and Bill

  • @dulogmaz
    @dulogmaz 3 роки тому +7

    Unbiased videos like this tend to get a lot of hate comments and dislikes. You're doing good brother keep it up.

  • @spidercal9812
    @spidercal9812 3 роки тому +3

    Drose KEEPS that MVP. Led his team which was plagued with injuries to the best record in a league full of big 3s and superstar duos. And he was 3-0 or like 4-0 against the big 3 heat in the regular season. Even Lebron said Drose was the MVP that year.

    • @RumbleXBL
      @RumbleXBL Рік тому

      Yes mvp but not the best player ….

    • @AVB15
      @AVB15 Рік тому

      @@RumbleXBL he wasn’t even a top 3 player that year

    • @RumbleXBL
      @RumbleXBL Рік тому

      @@AVB15 my point lol mvp but not best player or one of the best lol

  • @MsTruebi
    @MsTruebi 3 роки тому

    Excellet series! Suggestion for next series: If Finals MVPs Were Given to the BEST player of the series, not necessarily from the winning team ...

  • @nathancheng3710
    @nathancheng3710 3 роки тому +41

    Why doesn’t Jonny talk about Harden’s true shooting percentage?

    • @gkop9574
      @gkop9574 3 роки тому +1

      Thank you

    • @byoung520
      @byoung520 3 роки тому +13

      He don’t like harden

    • @edwinchen647
      @edwinchen647 3 роки тому +4

      @@byoung520 He clearly hates Harden. The 17-18 mvp race shouldn't even be close.

    • @Dragorach
      @Dragorach 2 роки тому +1

      Cuz it's insanely bloated from his free throws taken average being so high.

    • @DiscGolfLeagueMVP
      @DiscGolfLeagueMVP 2 роки тому

      @@Dragorach You clearly understand the purpose of true shooting then!

  • @Life_Basketball
    @Life_Basketball 3 роки тому +66

    I 100% believe that KD was the best player in 2014 and 2019

    • @kawhileonardsburner6792
      @kawhileonardsburner6792 3 роки тому +19

      KD definitely deserved mvp in 2014 but not in 2019 Giannis led his team to the best record in the nba and had better numbers

    • @Life_Basketball
      @Life_Basketball 3 роки тому +5

      @@kawhileonardsburner6792 Yeah, KD had 26, 6 and 6 while Giannis had 27 12 and 6. Similar scoring numbers and Giannis had defense over KD as well as rebounding, KD simply did more things better. KD averaged those numbers with 2 other all stars that season ( Giannis had 1 all star

    • @_1luljayyy
      @_1luljayyy 3 роки тому +5

      KD should’ve won in 2012 as well

    • @Life_Basketball
      @Life_Basketball 3 роки тому +5

      @@_1luljayyy that's fax, LeBron didn't have a better season than KD in 2012

    • @deionwhite8430
      @deionwhite8430 3 роки тому +2

      @@_1luljayyy no he shouldn't have

  • @geraldgano6221
    @geraldgano6221 3 роки тому

    can u make a videos of nba superstars currently played in nba if they never switch team from the beginning of der career until now

  • @hasang3
    @hasang3 3 роки тому +2

    That 2018 LeBron season was so underrated because Cavs was only 4th place in ECF but that run in playoffs was legendary.

    • @johngriller4997
      @johngriller4997 Рік тому

      It wasn’t underrated when everyone still over-glorifies it all the time. Yes, individually for LBJ it was very impressive but when considering he went against a bunch of developing kids on weak teams att with virtually 0 AllStars (Bos ECF, the only Superstar in Kyrie injured ffs), Notorious DeplayoffChoker (2nd round), and a bunch of nobodies with one mid caliber AS in Oladipo. Plus adding to that meh run he got swept again in the Finals after only one great individual performance. When you add all of that then the totality of the run isn’t that impressive. I’d take any of Hakeem’s playoffs runs when he was a massive underdog and you know, actually won a championship against way tougher comp all around. Or Kawhi’s actually Legendary 2019 performance against actual comp and superstars and actually winning the title. I’m not expecting LeBron to win against the Warriors that year but at least close one damn game bruh.

  • @footyhub6841
    @footyhub6841 3 роки тому +41

    Imagine the scenes if flight reacts to this

  • @mandumetheking
    @mandumetheking 3 роки тому +3

    So in my calculations, if the MVPs were given to the Best Player from the '80s to the 2010s', according to Jonny, MJ would have 8 MVPs and Bron would have 6 MVPs. The GOATs. Without a doubt.

    • @etiennebouyoux3577
      @etiennebouyoux3577 Рік тому

      We need more fans like you, who accept that they are both great.

  • @lukamitreski4349
    @lukamitreski4349 3 роки тому

    You speaking facts my man you got everything right

  • @bradleyhoward8773
    @bradleyhoward8773 3 роки тому

    2017: None of these candidates play have elite defense. Kawhi: "Am I a joke to you???"

  • @Robinhudloom
    @Robinhudloom 3 роки тому +5

    This channel is underrated, should have atleast 1M subs

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks Robin, that means a lot :)

    • @kingdinodragonite3470
      @kingdinodragonite3470 3 роки тому +2

      @Allen Iverson nah bro. Wilt is playing 48 minutes. That's like 1.5× more than Giannis. Giannis 2020: 30ppg 13reb 5ast on 61.3%TS and DPOY in 30 minutes per game. Wilt's Career: 30.1ppg 22reb 4ast on 54%TS (most rebounds are statpadding) in 45 minutes a game.

  • @ashmaterial
    @ashmaterial 3 роки тому +4

    DO DPOY from 1st season of NBA. I want to know Wilt stats in defence and how good he was

    • @kingdeedee
      @kingdeedee 3 роки тому +1

      Extremely difficult. Blocks and steals weren't recorded back then let alone all the other advanced defensive stats. On top of that, footage is so limited so you can't really watch many clips to analyze his defense and on top of that, rules were so different that it's tough to compare his defensive impact to players of the modern era. We pretty much just have old people telling us that he was an elite defender and we have no choice but to believe it

  • @tapinntwin
    @tapinntwin 3 роки тому +2

    Unfortunately we have to wait 10 years to see this format again😂

  • @alikay9721
    @alikay9721 3 роки тому +32

    You can literally make the reverse argument for the mpg. Harden had to play more minutes, so he could help his team win(which they needed because a few key players on their roster were injured for a big part of the season), ergo he is more valuable than giannis in that perspective, plus imagine playing every single game accumulating those amounts of fatigue and still averaging an otherworldly 36 ppg. For me it isn't a questing Harden deserved the mvp that year

    • @adamvesper9106
      @adamvesper9106 3 роки тому +9

      this man hated on harden the whole video. he just dismissed everything harden did and just acted like he was playing like an average player. but when lebron came into the conversation every time he was drooling and couldn’t get up off his knees. i hate the disrespect sm

    • @skynyrdjesus
      @skynyrdjesus 2 роки тому +2

      The amount of durability and stamina it requires to play that many minutes consistently doesn't show up in the box score, so it's easy for a lot of people to underrate. It's the same way people like to criticize Wilt for "needing" 48 minutes a game to average 50 points at 130 possession average. You show me another player in history you could maintain that pace and those minutes for an entire season, in chuck taylors, then we can talk about how easy it is to put up those numbers

    • @justincieminski2010
      @justincieminski2010 2 роки тому

      Again your just going off of his offensive stats when overall Giannis was just as efficient on less minutes and a much better defender?

    • @foxtun6746
      @foxtun6746 2 роки тому +1

      @@justincieminski2010 first of all harden averaged more steals and was still a solid defender. There is no way you think defense is more valuable than offense in the regular season.

    • @justincieminski2010
      @justincieminski2010 2 роки тому

      @@foxtun6746 I’m not saying defense was more valuable but you can’t ignore that he averaged way more rebounds with almost the same amount of assists and he was a much more efficient scorer and defender than harden

  • @first.name.last.name.8443
    @first.name.last.name.8443 3 роки тому +4

    dude said giannas plays role player minutes 😂😂

  • @joshuachang5210
    @joshuachang5210 3 роки тому +3

    In 2018 I think Harden keeps the award is also a solid choice considering the fact that LeBron is having arguably his worst defensive season of his career

  • @ChefDeeRock
    @ChefDeeRock 3 роки тому

    MVP is so narrative driven . There should be two upmost prestigious awards . “ Best Player Award” and “Most Valuable ” and also given a definition which the current MVP AWARD does not have .

  • @nufaa5313
    @nufaa5313 3 роки тому

    Good video, some close calls but no disagreement

  • @jalenbrunsonfan
    @jalenbrunsonfan 3 роки тому +4

    This channel deserves a whole lot more subs

  • @northernlight1000
    @northernlight1000 3 роки тому +25

    Harden could of won 2015 MVP as well

  • @jurisdumagan4138
    @jurisdumagan4138 3 роки тому

    Cant believe you have to wait a whole decade to continue this series

  • @brandfordhowell6960
    @brandfordhowell6960 3 роки тому

    Agreed...I wanted to argue the Davis call but that's difficult. I agree with the list and what the criteria should be for mvp

  • @caglarservili
    @caglarservili 3 роки тому +16

    The best player doesn't mean the player with best stats. Most of the time it works but there are cases which you just can't use stats in the BITW convo

    • @randygoku4055
      @randygoku4055 3 роки тому

      True

    • @Z_hri
      @Z_hri 3 роки тому +1

      who said the best player means the best stats? advanced stats aren’t like normal stats because they add more context

    • @caglarservili
      @caglarservili 3 роки тому

      @@Z_hri So you really think Anthony Davis was the best player in 2015🤔

    • @Rk-xx1sg
      @Rk-xx1sg 3 роки тому

      @@caglarservili hell no it was immaculate cap

    • @caglarservili
      @caglarservili 3 роки тому

      @@Rk-xx1sg That's literally what I'm saying. If you just look at the stats(advanced stats too) you should say ad was the best player but we all know he wasn't.

  • @d.eric_29
    @d.eric_29 3 роки тому +10

    D Rose the best ❤️ 🌹

  • @sambalaskas5082
    @sambalaskas5082 3 роки тому +1

    As much as a love this video, it isn’t really “who is the best player” it’s more “who had the best season regardless of games won”

  • @clanwaddell5628
    @clanwaddell5628 7 місяців тому +1

    Heatles LeBron was amazing. I'm a Heat fan so maybe I am biased. But for all the hate he got for the cramps and Ray Allen "saving his career" with the shot in game 6, man was a force of nature. Playing with a good team let him dominate on defense. You need good teammates to win, which this team had. And his shooting stroke was the best of his career. He got older and wiser, but this was the most explosive and dynamic he ever was, with solid footwork and a solid three point shot

  • @MaleviahBurned
    @MaleviahBurned 3 роки тому +3

    17, 18, 19 all belong to westbrook

  • @vontaydaoutcast1844
    @vontaydaoutcast1844 3 роки тому +15

    Can you make one for the MVPs of the 1980s?

  • @AAAvatar
    @AAAvatar 3 роки тому

    Honestly I even if you disagree with some of the stuff this guy says, you just can't dislike him. There's literally no detectable biasness in his voice

  • @ebronjamesandreiv4472
    @ebronjamesandreiv4472 2 роки тому +2

    bro fr the 2018 lebron was a different breed man