If MVPs Were Given to the BEST Player... (1980s)
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2020
- The NBA gives its MVP awards to players who meet certain criterias... but what if the MVP was just given to the best player? We're looking at who would win it in those cases from the 1980s.
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Which 80s Legend deserved more MVPs?
70s are on its way, but I may do a couple other videos first… Maybe even Top 10 MVP Seasons of All Time?? We shall see...
Either Bird or Magic.
Jordan was too young I’ll say he deserved maybe 2 more MVPs in 87 and 89
It would be 2013, 2000, 2016, 1996, 1971, 1986, 1994. Top 3 are set, rest can be moved around and more can be added
if you will ever do a video about the mvps of the 60s then you should also take the mvps from the 50s, because the ones of the 50s wouldnt be enough to make a whole video
Mj should have @ less to mvp in 80s
I think Bird deserved 1 more MVP in 86 - 87
Dude, some of these clips really let me see how unbelievable Larry Bird was
If it wasn't for his back injury (on top of his other injuries) I have no doubt that the discussion for who is the GOAT would be far more interesting than it is today.
Jp Bm yes sir I’m a huge Larry bird fan and if Len bias would’ve never died he’d have at least 1-2 more ships and if his back never gave out
Still top 7 no question
Most underrated legend
To me 4th best all time. Behind lbj Jordan and Kareem
I appreciate the value you put on defense. Too many analysts and fans overlook defense nowadays and forget its half the game.
Facts defense matters too
Yeah my favorite player, Tim Duncan, always suffers from that problem when people argue he isn’t a top 12 player because he avg 25 at most. Or people claim he was never dominate
Tank Tribe i think he is a top 12 player top 10
Tank Tribe man it’s so hard to list the top 10 you have jordan, bron, kareem, magic, bird, wilt, bill, kobe, duncan, shaq, hakeem, moses
Carl Feliciano that’s why I hate lists Bc there’s still plenty of players you could argue all it is one giant argument with no real winners
Moses Malone is so underrated and overlooked. 3 MVPs over his career and it seems like nobody remembers him.
I thinks its because he was on several teams rather than being for example "a rocket."Back then Bird was a celtic magic was a maker etc.
Same with Shaq. Guys that simply knock the shit out of defenders in order to score probably shouldn't get that much basketball credit.
JonMark Seifers Plus he never had a number he stayed with and didn’t have the same marketability which is weird for a guy named Moses.
@@roxydejaneiro5640 oh stfu
@@roxydejaneiro5640 ure short aren't you?
Just shows how great magic, bird, and jordan really were.
Yep, can't forget Moses Malone either!
strongest decade of talent in basketball and stacked teams in nba history
@@retrosoul8770 can't put moses on their level
@@AntickUamba oh so that means he deserves to get completely washed over in history and never recognized for his talent? Because that's what happened so no
Bird was better than all of them besides MJ. Magic had Kareem for the bulk of his career who is another top 5 player of all time. Larry was always the number 1 guy and had to carry the bulk more than Magic.
One thing you didn't mention for '87 is that MJ became the first out of only three players to ever record 200+ steals w/ 100+ blocks in a season. The league somehow forgot to include him in the All-Defensive Team, so he repeated the same feat in '88, making him the only one to do so and earning him the DPOY. He also reached a career peak of 259 stls & 131 blks that year.
Jordan 89 season in my opinion was his greatest season from individual standpoint. Almost averaging a triple double and first team all defense extroadinary.
Wilt has joined the chat
1990 was that way too
@@justainternetwonderer1273 Wilt played in a weak era.
@@justainternetwonderer1273 he played 1 great center that's it
@@shawn17g walt bellamy, willis reed and nate thurmond beg to differ, not knowing these players don't mean they never existed
Jonny is the next JxmyHighroller just wait, on the road to 1 mill.
Thanks friend! Jxmy is awesome :) The quality of his stuff is incredible
Lol Jonny is allready miles away from Jimmy the best Hooper in youtube
@@21schznoidjimmy ידבע hooper אומרים לשחקן כדורסל לא ליוטויובר כדורסל
@@nits6664 אני יודע אבל התכוונתי בכללי אנשים שמתעסקים בכדורסל ביטויוב
@@nits6664 יופי שיש פה עוד ישראלים
Video on 60s: Wilt as MVP of the decade.
10 MVP’s lol.
highest scoring season of all time by anyone, not Wilt Chamberlain , 9 straight 40 point game the longest streak in the league of all time by anyone not named wilt Chamberlain
Russell would win them all, and I’m a Chamberlain fan.
thelilcrunchy but wouldn’t it be wilt because it would be based on just stats
No bill would win
The older I get, the more I realize how lucky I was to grow up as a basketball fan in Chicago in the '80's and 90's. These days, being in the old Chicago Stadium and United Center for playoffs with MJ feels almost as legendary as being at the battle of Troy and living to tell the tale.
Sadly, Lebron fans are discrediting Michael Jordan"s victories and achievements. They like to say that MJ only beat the Pistons and Lakers when they get older.
But all of he Pistons"s best players were under 30.
Magic was only 31 years old and he was the second best player in the Nba.
James Worthy ( age 29 ).
Lebron fans forget to mention that Prime Lebron James lost to a team whose best player was 38-years-old Tim Duncan.
2014 Nba Finals.
Spurs: Tim Duncan ( age 38 ), Manu ( age 36 ), Kawhi ( age 22 ), Tony Parker ( age 32 ).
@@allanhouston6759 Facts. And if we are doing their best solo runs (2007 Lebron vs 1989 Jordan), you will see the BIG difference in competition and success. Jordan faced 50-win teams from the first round of 1989 up to the ECF 63-win Pistons where he took 2 games. Lebron on the other hand, faced 2 .500 (41-41) teams in the Wizards and the Nets before facing a 53-win Pistons team (who are a farcry from the Pistons that beat the Lakers in 2004 or the Pistons that Jordan faced in 1989).
Jordan, alone, was the ONLY one who beat the pistons in that postseason (the Pistons 4-0 swept Magic). On the contrary, whenever Lebron faced a championship-bound team "alone" in 2007, he couldn't even take one game. Note that Jordan didn't have Phil Jackson or a Star Pippen, just decent (just-got-off-the-bench-rotation) Scottie Pippen.
People always love to brag about lebron getting to the finals where he got badly swept (the WCF was the actual finals that year) but forget that Jordan turned the 1989 ECF into the Finals (as the 1989 Pistons 4-0 swept the Lakers). I'm not even going to go into the individual performance cause Lebron averaged 23ppg on 37FG%...
You dang sure were lucky. I only have vague memories of watching him on TV in the 90s lol
@@allanhouston6759 Don't disrespect the Spurs like that. That 2014 team was legendary. Even in 2015-16, the next year... those old guys set the NBA record in the regular season for best home record in a season, they went 40-1 at home. And 67-15 which is tied for the 7th best record of all time. AND THEY WERE A YEAR OLDER. They only got overshadowed because GSW went 73-9. But they are one of the greatest teams in NBA history.
@@Flyhr Check your facts.
2015/16 Spurs:
It was a completely diffrent team.
Kawhi Leonard has matured and won a DPOY award in 2016. It was the team of Kawhi Leonard and the new team player Lamarcus Aldridge.
Old Tim Duncan and old Manu barely played.
Tim Duncan ( age 40 ) = 9-ppg FG-49%.
Tony Parker ( age 34 ) = 12-ppg FG-49%
Manu ( age 38 ) = 10-ppg FG-45%
you should do a video once this series is done analyzing it all and talk about who won the most MVPS now? Who won the most straight now? Who gained the most MVPS under this new formula? Etc.
Jordan and Wilt comes out as best players ever
@@elbowgang9715 Shaq better than Wilt.
Allan Houston I’m sorry, but that is a stupid remark xD
Kareem win with 9 MVP, Jordan 2nd with 8, Lebron third with 6.
@@allanhouston6759 r u high
You should make a recap with all of the MVPs after you finish them all
Nicholas Garcia 😂
@Nicholas Garcia 87-93 is all Mj on his video, then there 96, 98. So 9 MVP's for Mj.
@Nicholas Garcia Facts
@@genmac2843 He took Malone in 98, that's 8 for MJ
underrated basketball channel right here
Yes, Michael Jordan was really that damn scary on the court. GOAT
100% facts
FACTS indeed he was a bball general on the court 🐐
The goat
he was the goat but now lebron is
@@tiktokexposed898 you have to be someone who only seen Lebreanda play to even let that come out your mouth 🤣🤣
The 87 season is just wow.
I mean mj definitely was not mvp, definition of a ball hog volume shooter which hurts his team, he shot 12.2 more times than magic and had a 15% higher usage rate 38% all time high to 23% and Magic was a facilitator. There is a reason they were barely better as a team than when he missed the full year. They were below 500 and only made the playoffs because 8 out 11 teams in the east that year made the playoffs, they were the 8th seed and 5th out of 6 teams in their division, 25 less wins than the lakers, 19 worse than the celtics. And because of his ballhogging at that point in his career they were the 3rd worst scoring team, they scored 4 more points a game the year he played 6 games. Its the best boxline that was not actually indicative of performance in league history.
Robert M man the hatred is oozing through your words. I didn’t even mention MJ....
@@leroyrodgers6089 Considering half that segment was gushing on mj its implied. And don't hate him, hate the fan base which is spot on for biased ignorance fucking up the world today.
@@bigwig8657 it's OK to be a ball hog if you average more than 30 ppg on more than 50% shooting for multiple years cause it means you're being efficient. He continued to be a volume shooter EFFICIENTLY even when they started winning championships. That plus his efforts on the defensive side.
@@bigwig8657 I mean he holds the ball for 3 min and 21 sec per game
I was a kid in the '80's, and these guys are like gods to me...but still, seeing some of the stats (Moses, 31 pts, 14.7 rebounds a game!! Bird- 23.6, 11 rebounds, 5.8 assists; Jordan, 37 pts, 5.2 rebounds, 4.6 assists, 2.9 steals; Bird's two 50/40/90 seasons) still shock me a little bit. What an awesome time to watch basketball.
Moses is the surprise for me... He is very underrated and almost nobody talks about him
Ok that 1986-87 MVP race is actually insane LMAO
That rare point where all 3 GOATs where at the peak of their powers!
this video just basically made Michael Jordan's legacy more legendary than it already is
Dude would have had 9 mvps..can you imagine MJ remaining in the league 17rys straight?
@@boondockbwoy14 8 actually. And he didn’t that’s why you gotta give LeBron credit for not just having longevity, but being so dominant for so long.
@@leultrainstinct406 Yes LeBron is a phenom and I for one do not diminish in that respect I look to him as a symbol of heart and love for the game playing and maintaining the way he has for so long..but MJ decided he was done and had enough of the league and moved more into the business side of it all after satisfying his hunger in those last seasons with the wizards
@@boondockbwoy14 LMFAOOOO Yes I can definitely imagine mj being in the league for 17 yrs straight he would be a bench player for the last 2 seasons after his 15 yr career is done😂
@@aliciasplaytime6905 🤡
According to these rankings MJ should have won the MVP from 1987-1993 that’s 7 straight MVP’s 🤯. How anybody questions who is the GOAT is unfathomable to me.
He shod bc he didn’t have to face guys like Durant, or 33-11-11 Westbrook, or 73-9 Curry etc etc
lebron did the same in his 2010's video, but lets wait for the 1960's as MJ's 1988 season pales in comparison to Wilts 50 point season.
TZR 97 shut up. He faced birds best Celtics he faced the bad boy pistons he faced better teams than any team today ever
And Kareem should have 8-9 on this case so....
TZR 97 he played for about 500 years tho.
Appreciate you doing the 80' as demanded by your followers.. Great Job Jonny
That MJ highlight reel was insane
Michael, Bird, Earvin Johnson. Made 80's NBA the best till this day.
Man, the second half of the 80’s were the ‘ascension of Jordan’ years! Dang.
Can’t wait for the 70s
Kareem would get 9/10 MVPs 😤
BlackMamba 2K prolly but it interesting to see if anyone had a better season
Actually alot of players had a better season lol
DICK LONG well true but player like bob mcadoo,george gervin,pete maravich,rick barry,elvin hayes,john havlicek,walt frazier,bob lanier were also there
@DICK LONG they were really only strong at forward.
Damn this man Jordan averaged 37 points and was a defensive machine and still didn’t win MVP
ikr🤦🏾♂️ Dude should basically have 9 MVPs 🙄 ..Can you imagine him remaining in the league for 17yrs!!
He wasn’t an defensive machine then, he just scored then because his team was shit so he just scored
@FreeThrowJumper it's hard not to do everything on offense when you're on the court with cokeheads
@FreeThrowJumper He was a defensive machine in 1987. He became the first man to record 200 steals and 100 blocks. But people were paying so much attention to his scoring that they completely ignored what he was doing on the defensive end. With his historic defensive year, Jordan still didn't make the all-defensive team.
@@RatedRex1 a shooting guard with 100 blocks was unheard of back then. No idea how he didn't make the All-Defensive Team.
So 7 straight mvps for jordan?
Yep. Pretty much.
Man's the goat for a reason
@@emilioreyes4159 are sure lebron is named the king for a reason
@@emilioreyes4159 jk mj the goat
I'm an MJ fan, but Magic 1000% deserved the 87 MVP. Magic made everyone around him better, and Michael did not truly learn that until 1991 when he started to trust John Paxson when it mattered in the 4th quarters.
YES! This is so entertaining
Jonny check out this idea
If Finals MVP's were were properly awarded or NOT .
I love Iggy especially after joining my Miami Heat but HE DID NOT deserve the 2015 finals MVP over Steph.
Steeeeeph? Still shulda been lebron 🤷🏾♂️ it shuld go 2 the best player on the court. Win or lose
Fr
LMAO STEPH? That was the most legitimate shot at a losing player (LeBron) to win the FMVP since Jerry West. There was no question who the best player on that court was. Just look at the numbers. LeBron averaged 35.8pts-13.3reb- 8.8asts with no Kyrie or Kevin Love.
@@Flyhr 35.8 points on 39% shooting is not impressive whatsoever. Steph curry statistically had the 2nd most clutch finals series of the century behind Shaq in 2000 as he put up 65 points on 75% TS in the 4th quarter. Steph Curry was undoubtedly the best player on the court
@@jshonsmith3399 what year? Because I'm talking about the 2015 finals, Curry shot below average for his own standards. 38.5% from 3pt and 44% from the field. 26-6-5 stat output. Curry had the exact same ORtg as Lebron and a lower TS% than Igoudala. Steph Curry also had double Lebron's Turnover rate. Curry also had a lower Game Score average (17.8) than Kyrie(21.1) who was still lower than LeBron (24.6).
These vids showing Larry Bird was a LOT more athletic than how people talk about him.. 11:35 for example
Indeed man could sky got mad hops fr 🚀😮
Had to go back and watch the 90s vid just to tally up how many MVPs you gave Jordan
He ended up grabbing 8 by the end of his career, 3 more than the 5 he has in real life
Makes sense, while Jordan was the best player in the league for quite some time his Bulls didnt become a top team until the 90s
When was Jordan the best player in the NBA. 1984-87 it was Bird, 1987-1990 it was Magic. Jordan nearly beat Magic for the MVP in 1991. No way that Lakers team should of been that good or made the finals
Kareem might get 10 MVPs
@@melvynsngltn27 MJ was the best Nba player from 1989 to 1998.
@@allanhouston6759 no he wasn't
@@melvynsngltn27 STOP IT HATER MICHAEL SHOULD HAVE HAD 15 MVPS
Kevin Mchale was no joke !!! That man shooting 60 percent plus 25 wow
That 1988 and 1989 season by MJ was straight up Greatness
I never know he actually facilitates like what he did in '89
I didnt know much about Jordan since I'm sort of a youngins. But this video really solidified my case as Jordan being the GOAT
So far my favorite basketball UA-cam channel. Keep up the good work bro
Not trying to argue cause I like this channel to but check out Clayton Crowley page. Not mine but damn is the quality good as well. If you do tell me what you think he needs more subs.
Jordan was truly different..
But I also recommend to look up Birds official mixtape put out by the NBA UA-cam channel. The clips you see here are just a snippet.
What I really enjoy about your videos are the level of analysis that goes into them. You've done a ton of research not only on the offensive side, but also you factor in defense. You are providing us with consistent great thought provoking high quality videos. Thank you Jonny
It's amazing to me how different Magic, Bird and Jordan's games were yet they dominated in their own unique way.
Moses Malone is the most underrated player in the history of the NBA.
Agreed
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So jordan wins nine mvps if they actually gave the award to the best player... If that doesn’t prove that he’s the goat I don’t know what does.
Do you watch the vids???
He would win 3 in the 80s and 4 in the 90s, thats 7 MVPs
Nah wait for 60s and 70s you’ll have wilth
@@user-hq4et2wm4v Jordan gets 87-93 and 96, so it's actually 8. The argument can also be made that he should've won 1997, though of all the "MJ was screwed" years that's the one where he has the weakest case.
@@mrmacross youre right my bad
You showed have showed Bird’s stats for 1988. 30, 9, 6 on 53,41, 91 percentages. Truly crazy!
Lol by anyone not named wilt Chamberlain.🤣
U do know wilt played in the 60s?
DICK LONG what does that have to do with the video?
Wilt op
Awesome video. I love this series.
Completely agree with your list Jonny. Great job reviewing and reminding me how great 80's NBA Basketball was. I truly miss them!
Watched all of these videos, love the way you explain it and what you value as a complete player. Keep it up! 👍
Great video. Shows why the 80’s greats dominate a lot of top 5’s. Jordan, Kareem, Magic, Bird.
even more impressive the did it in a very competitive league. imagine the pistons having to face all time great boston in eastern finals only to advance to face the other goat team ,showtime! unreal.
@@terren1275 Jordan kareem magic 100% bird gtfoh
Lebron >>>> bird
@@aliciasplaytime6905 Bird was better than Magic
Anytime Bird played in his Prime he was easily the best player
These are honestly my favorite videos to watch out of all the videos I’ve ever watched on UA-cam
Gotta love your videos, and these MVP-series especially. Very interesting and cases well made.
I didn't know McHale was THAT good. Damn that celtics team was stacked.
It definitely is.
Magic have Kareem. That’s why I think Bird is better than Magic
Hell yeah! I graduated in 1985. The basketball was phenomenal! Bird has always been my man and the Celtics are still my team!
I love your content man keep it up, your quality has improved over the past months
Can't wait for basketball to get back to normal.
Love your videos.
You go!
Great great series man
Its crazy that people forget Magic didn't win his first MVP til his 7th season in the league. Bird was clearly better up till that point. Birds back was starting to give out and Magic was coming of age since he was 3 years younger than Bird.
Wow. Watching Larry Bird is a revelation. Never knew he was a Jordan like player.
Jordan was a Bird-like player you mean, for sure. Larry was likely the only player in Michael’s career that owned him mentally. Why do you think MJ turned out the way he did? Forged in the fires
Man this has been an amazing series thus far. Are you going all the way back to the 60s too? Keep it up!
Loving this series
Holy shit Larry Bird was a monster just saw him put back his own rebound from just below the arc
Bill Simmons: "Bird should have won MVP every year"
@harold mccoy That's the joke
Bird should have 4 MVPS. 81, 84, 85, and 86. The Celtics won 29 games in 1980. Bird showed up and they won 61 in 1981.
@harold mccoy From 81 through 87, Bird was the best player in the NBA, and it wasn't close. After that, Jordan was the best, and it wasn't close. The 80s and 90s there was never a question who was the best. Picking teams, only a moron (or a racist) wouldn't pick Bird first during the 80s.
@@roxydejaneiro5640 Racist Really? C'mon you can't say that everyone who has a differing opinion from yours is a racist since this is your opinion and not a fact because it is subjective. Jordan in the 80s scored more than Bird and was considered a better defender than Bird. Kareem was a dominant figure in the 80s as well even if he was declining. I like Larry and I think people just sweep him under the carpet whenever they are talking about GOAT NBA Players. That being said, I still won't go as far as saying anyone who disagrees with me is a racist. Chill out with the 'my POV is the right answer and everyone else is wrong' take.
@harold mccoy I got cross eyed seeing that many commas in the longest run on sentence in the history of the internet.
superb as always!
Thx for another great video, Jonny! Always some of the best NBA content on UA-cam!
I've been waiting for this one! / After watching edit: It's super nice to see Moses get this credit, because it's a who's who of greats here.
This just once and for all quiets all naysayers talkin crap about MJ not being the GOAT 🐐💪🏾
Can you do this series for dpoy's?
@Jonny Arnett you must do this, it will be fire! 🔥🔥🔥
That would be nicce👌
Great idea bro
Yeah that would be dope. Like this comment of his so it would be noticed
good idea
Hard to argue this guy. I love these videos!
The long awaited video has finally came
Thank you
Love this series :)
MJ the GOAT🐐👌🏾
I have a better perspective and respect of MJ dunks when it's in slow motion. They didn't call him Air Jordan for nothing lol.
Was waiting on this 🙌
I love how Jordan's 89 case was matched with (new to me) clips of him giving the Pistons the business! The thought really crossed my mind that he is the GOAT. No wonder they developed the Jordan Rules; they had no other way to stop him.
In this new format Jordan would’ve had 9 mvps which just is adding to his already goat legacy
Confirmed🐐😮
8* 87-93, 96
It should be 7 imo cuz i give bird 87
now it's giannis, jordan and hakeem that have achieved both DPOY and MVP
Hey Jonny, I love your intro and I love your content and you always do good research. Keep up the good work; I love your channel.
Astonishing work on this video. Really.
Sure jordan had his insane athleticism...but if I was starting an NBA dream team my first pick would be a prime Larry Bird. Elite defense, second in playmaking only to Magic, unselfish player, and a 50/40/90 shooter? Yes please.
Ok so basically what you’re telling me is that if MJ was a Point Guard HE would be the Point GOD????
Mj stats would clearly look even better then it does now but he dont need them to be because he was and clearly still is the goat
@@mixedpleasure4324 Agreed as a point guard MJ's stats would have went to a whole dif stratosphere but he never had to be he was comfortable being the GOAT at what power forward?
Yes because running the offense inflates your stats.
@@whenisdinner2137just like Lebron, yes
Settle down basketball pagan.
Keep up the good work Jonny! Great Content 🔥🔥💯
I'm glad you're doing this series of videos, because I think the formula for not only MVP but other season awards around the league suffers from a lot of the same things the MVP voting does
So basically Jorsan supposed to have 9 MVPs, Jesus...
and Kareem would have 7
I waiting for the 1960s to see if choose god wilt or bill Jesus
He's going to shock us by picking other players in a few of the seasons.
The real question is: Does he pick Wilt 100, Oscar Triple Double, or stick with Bill?
Well he doesn’t encounter team success🤦♂️. So just give it to wilt every year
Mattulaak don’t forget Jerry west
As MVPs were given for the best player in regular season, then it's Wilt's or Oscar or Jerry. But for the playoff's standpoint, Bill got it.
Can you guy subscribe to me please
I love your content!!!
These decade videos are great jonny
Bird still deserve the MVP in 84
Yes! Some joy, I broke my jaw and I am gonna have surgery tommorow so now I have something to make me happy😃
Thank you for the support!
That's gotta hurt. Hope all goes well tomorrow. Hang in there.
@@yavannasing5254 Thank you mate👍
good luck with the surgery
@@aaronlennon1773 Thanks
Best wishes for the surgery mate. You'll come out stronger from this
Good consistency this is why I subscribed
These videos and the editing are awesome, keep up the great vids Jonny
Combined with the 90s MVP video, MJ had Jonny's MVP for 7 straight years, a whole decade if not for his first retirement. Quite scary when you come to think of it.
This dude is so underated
Love these videos bro keep it up
i could tell you spend alot of time making these videos! great job!!
This series just shows Jordan, Kobe, and Lebron were all really that dominant
When you said Jordan and Olajuwon were the only players to ever win the DPOY and MVP in the same season, looking at how they played, it upsets me a little that Antetokuonmpo will most likely be in the same list this year, when he really isn't anywhere near that caliber of a player yet.
while I do agree that Giannis has a long way to go. In 1988, Jordan was also viewed as a great individual player who still could not find playoff success, just like Giannis.
This aged poorly.
@@jonathansykes4986 facts 🤣🤣
@@jonathansykes4986 he’s still nowhere near mjs or hakeems caliber
@@jasonmoukala8909 He won't ever be MJ ceiling.. But Hakeem? I could see that.
Giannis is 1 ring away from matching Hakeem. 1 Finals MVP away from matching Hakeem.
Giannis has 2 MVP, 1 more than Hakeem. Hakeem does have 6 top 5 MVP voting to Giannis 3 but Giannis is still young to get more MVP votes.
Giannis has 1 less DPOY than Hakeem.
Giannis has 4 all defense teams compared to Hakeem's 9 but again, Giannis is still young.
When all is said and done, Giannis can be Hakeem or surpass him.
'87 was the toughest to call, but giving it to Jordan is a pretty safe call when dice are involved. I thought Bird might have been best, but McHale had an argument too. This is a great series. Thanks as always for top shelf content! I hope more and more people find their way to watching it...
Great series!
You know, the MVP's are on the top 2 teams in each conference every year not because an elite winning team is favored, but that player (or other, non-realistic candidate helping) makes that team good.
let's not pretend that Magic made Worthy and Kareem all-stars. The team won a lot of games cause it had a lot of talent
Johnny: mentions Magic was the only player in nba history to average 12 asts and 23 pts in a single game.
Also Johnny: forgets to mention Isiah Thomas’s season in 1985 where he was the only player in nba history to average atleast 13 APG while scoring atleast 20ppg. Isiah average 13.9 APG.
Excellent series. Good logical analysis and emphasis on defense
i literally watched every game of bird and Magic that i could locate on tv...but Dr.J will forever be my favorite..hands down.
dude try if the DPOY was given to the best defender in the NBA
Yea that would be a good series.
Why do people always have Magic much higher on their list than Bird? I always have Bird a spot or two above
Love this bro
Great vids super underrated youtuber