The myth that Lebron James deserved MVP over Derrick Rose in 2011

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    The 2011 season happened ages ago, and there are still people that can't deal with the fact Rose won MVP over James. Today I show why even if you think Lebron deserved MVP, that there is no way you can discredit Rose for winning it. He did more than people realized, or choose to remember.
    Big thanks to these articles for helping me with the argument:
    www.basketballforever.com/2016...
    bleacherreport.com/articles/68...
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  • @Dom2k16
    @Dom2k16  6 років тому +256

    One thing I wish I would've said in the vid: Dwight Howard placed second over Lebron in MVP voting, and there's definitely no way that should've happened. Lebron's season was better and the Heat won more so yes the voters may have cut him short there, but there is still no way you can discredit Rose's case for the clear cut MVP over both of them in 2011 with everything else described.
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    • @mi5tundefeated.613
      @mi5tundefeated.613 6 років тому +3

      Dom2k do a vid about curry and Ray Allen compared

    • @AAA-yh7zh
      @AAA-yh7zh 6 років тому +8

      Dom2k you did mention that Dwight was 2nd in mvp voting.

    • @kdottfinesse
      @kdottfinesse 6 років тому +2

      bill played against 5'9 white boys refute this please

    • @theofficialphil
      @theofficialphil 6 років тому +1

      Dom2k he did not get same amount of hate as KD this year he got more but other then that great video

    • @derrickjrlavar9668
      @derrickjrlavar9668 6 років тому +1

      Dom2k can you do the 3-5 LeBron

  • @kaimehra9802
    @kaimehra9802 6 років тому +1820

    DRose is so unlucky. He could have been one of the best players in the NBA without injuries.

    • @vulcaniso1943
      @vulcaniso1943 6 років тому +15

      Kai Mehra fr

    • @zumzici1234
      @zumzici1234 6 років тому +122

      No doubt, he was a beast, he had the handles, the speed, the athleticism AND incredible touch around the rim. With some time to develop his shot he could have become a legend, and one of the most exciting players to watch.ever.

    • @NNOutBurger_Gaming
      @NNOutBurger_Gaming 6 років тому +42

      Kai Mehra he would have been better then Jordan

    • @Music-mi5gg
      @Music-mi5gg 6 років тому +50

      Kai Mehra yup at least we got Westbrook though and the rookie Dennis Smith Jr is looking like the second coming of Rose. I still shed a tear whenever I watch old Rose highlights though 😭

    • @lilprincekilla
      @lilprincekilla 6 років тому +13

      Stop over rating him and overhyping. He was no where near the best, despite injuries. He was another potential Penny Hardaway. Why do I say Penny, because he was also plagued with injuries rivaling Jordan, and also BETTER than Rose.

  • @Nihilitty
    @Nihilitty 6 років тому +1259

    Dom, were still waiting for the Brian Scalabrine case for GOAT . you think we just gonna forget huh?

    • @richym3899
      @richym3899 6 років тому +75

      Case implies it's arguable. It's not (as in Scalabrine is the undisputed GOAT lol)

    • @asuforlife1702
      @asuforlife1702 6 років тому +99

      Richy M dont ever disrespect brian scalabrine like that again

    • @kalee6
      @kalee6 6 років тому +31

      ASUforLife shut up. Kawme is the goat.

    • @GrahamCStrouse
      @GrahamCStrouse 6 років тому +2

      Nihility White Manba FTW!

    • @sekkebronzazza7736
      @sekkebronzazza7736 6 років тому +17

      Yall underating Kwame Brown 😒

  • @VladimirElliot
    @VladimirElliot 6 років тому +510

    Foul💀💀 "DWade before his knees expired"

    • @fleewayricky
      @fleewayricky 6 років тому +6

      Abdullahi Ahmed lmaoooo

    • @FoxyChariot
      @FoxyChariot 6 років тому +12

      He said before the grim reaper took d will's career too

    • @danelisterine809
      @danelisterine809 5 років тому

      Just facts, this video is just facts the comments the commentary just plain bars

    • @ousmanceesay1784
      @ousmanceesay1784 3 роки тому

      I was dying at that part😂😂

  • @LeBeautiful
    @LeBeautiful 6 років тому +316

    well I did
    but what rose did to take a 1st seed team to the ECF in 3 years is simply *remarkable*. Always remember where your from and the hard work you put in. We most likely will never get him to be this explosive anymore, but at least, we witnessed greatness as the youngest MVP to ever grace the nba floor. #DRose 🌹

    • @kaz7690
      @kaz7690 6 років тому +28

      He could've been one of the greatest Point Guards in history. Just thinking about what he did at the age of 22 is crazy and what he could've became.

    • @RoseCurry5
      @RoseCurry5 6 років тому

      😢

    • @maumondragon2309
      @maumondragon2309 6 років тому +2

      He could be at least top 15 player of all time

    • @christianjayydio4472
      @christianjayydio4472 6 років тому

      Mau Mondragón l

    • @brutusmcklemore2630
      @brutusmcklemore2630 4 роки тому

      Also the 1 seed hawks few years ago

  • @jaykelz1528
    @jaykelz1528 6 років тому +336

    D Rose,
    The greatest "what if" player in history.
    Still my fav player forever.

    • @KingFateless13
      @KingFateless13 6 років тому +3

      Jay Kelz hopefully he does well in Cleveland with LeBron. If anyone can resurrect a career, it's LeBron

    • @jaykelz1528
      @jaykelz1528 6 років тому +2

      Jay D That's what I'm waiting for!

    • @RumbleFighterSolid
      @RumbleFighterSolid 6 років тому +3

      Lmao more like Lechoke got him traded

    • @theroseexperience
      @theroseexperience 5 років тому +7

      Not sure about history. Grant Hill and Penny Hardaway likely join him in the top 3 though.

    • @austinbridges7928
      @austinbridges7928 5 років тому +1

      We just gonna forget Len Bias?

  • @walterzhao5191
    @walterzhao5191 6 років тому +1047

    If he can make 2 straight free throws for u to live, r u alive?
    0-Lavar ball
    1-Steph curry
    2- Steve Nash
    3- Dwight Howard
    4- LeBron James
    5- deandre Jordan
    6- Michael Jordan
    7- kyrie irving
    8- Andre Drummond
    9- Shaq

  • @legendaryfizz4883
    @legendaryfizz4883 6 років тому +263

    Damn son. Started tearing up watching this video. I love Derrick Rose man. People forget so much that this man was the goods. I really wish Thibbs would've just sat him at the end of that Philly game.

    • @chicagobullsfan03
      @chicagobullsfan03 6 років тому +9

      james durant thibs has nothing to do with his injury. Rose was headed for a major injury. it just came at a bad time, he missed almost half of the lockout season, his knees had an expiration date

    • @legendaryfizz4883
      @legendaryfizz4883 6 років тому +30

      chicagobullsfan03 Not exactly. If Rose doesn't get injured the first time. There's a good chance he doesn't get injured the other times. And there's NO WAY he gets injured if he's not in the game when they're up by 9 or 12 with 1:30 left in the 4th. So there is reason to believe Thibbs played a role.

    • @GrahamCStrouse
      @GrahamCStrouse 6 років тому +17

      james durant I'm a Philly guy and I agree. With a healthy Rose, we'd probably have lost that series, but so what? I'd rather have a healthy Rose playing now.

    • @chicagobullsfan03
      @chicagobullsfan03 6 років тому

      james durant stop blaming thibs. Rose missed 40% of the season that year, his time was coming.

    • @jmoney8654
      @jmoney8654 6 років тому +1

      james durant trust the process

  • @amaanrak1158
    @amaanrak1158 6 років тому +866

    drose wouldve been one of the best pointguards ever

    • @johonanandrewgomes7593
      @johonanandrewgomes7593 6 років тому +52

      Amaan Rakhangi would have been the best

    • @nickcoleman9301
      @nickcoleman9301 6 років тому +23

      Johonan andrew gomes L

    • @kevo6463
      @kevo6463 6 років тому +1

      um how old are you ?

    • @nicholasvargas3406
      @nicholasvargas3406 6 років тому

      Amaan Rakhangi he is

    • @tmcdonald2374
      @tmcdonald2374 6 років тому +36

      I'm a LBJ fan and yes, he was considered the next MJ of Chicago. Hometown kid and fan favourite. D.Rose would attack the rim better and more vicious than any PG at the time

  • @callumsharpe8215
    @callumsharpe8215 6 років тому +321

    This hurts as a bulls fan so fucking much 😭😭😭😭😭

    • @GrahamCStrouse
      @GrahamCStrouse 6 років тому +8

      callum sharpe I blame Thibs, man. I would've picked LeBron over Rose but what I'd really love is to have a healthy Rose playing today.

    • @callumsharpe8215
      @callumsharpe8215 6 років тому +3

      Graham Strouse, even not on the bulls man, I hate LeBron but u know man if we had LeBron and he was healthy still unlike rose I'd happily take LeBron tbh lol

    • @aliounendiaye3482
      @aliounendiaye3482 6 років тому +1

      callum sharpe YOOO CALLUM ITS WALLWAY

    • @callumsharpe8215
      @callumsharpe8215 6 років тому +1

      Alioune Ndiaye can't believe thats I never know I had that many likes, and also hey wallway how unlikely

    • @aliounendiaye3482
      @aliounendiaye3482 6 років тому +2

      callum sharpe yea lol

  • @Joshbecky
    @Joshbecky 6 років тому +538

    who takes game winning shot from full court to save your life?
    1.Jae crowder
    2.Lavar
    3.Curry
    4.Andre Drummond
    5.Lou Williams
    6.Kobe
    7.Kevin Love
    8.Lebron
    9.Giannis Antetokounmpo
    0.Your least athletic family member

    • @kaikawasumi
      @kaikawasumi 6 років тому +6

      Curry first then LeBron. We've seen both of them make deep shots and make it seem easy. I feel like Kevin Love could make it because of his deep passing ability, but not confident on that.

    • @drgfromnyc
      @drgfromnyc 6 років тому +27

      Pin Head Larry Definitely Drummond. Drummond is a god from half-court and beyond.

    • @marctorres2900
      @marctorres2900 6 років тому

      9

    • @udonwarrior9983
      @udonwarrior9983 6 років тому +8

      Lavar

    • @MrTNTdestruction
      @MrTNTdestruction 6 років тому +2

      Kevin Love.

  • @itstaemonson
    @itstaemonson 6 років тому +130

    D-Rose was god That season he took a crazy step forward in terms of his skill. and he was always great. He just wasn't quite a super star before the 2010-2011 season. and it was just more fun to watch D-Rose than any other star that season.

    • @Christopher._M
      @Christopher._M 5 років тому +1

      Exactly he was improving every aspect of his game especially his shooting. At 21 and 22 years old D Rose was making vets and other all Stars look silly when they played defense on him .Even the players who were contending for and had heights up to seven feet couldn't lock down D Rose. In my opinion he was enjoying to watch Because he played the game at 100% every play and a majority of his shots were acrobatic which amazed everyone.

  • @brandonreed3670
    @brandonreed3670 6 років тому +290

    Bron was the better player, Rose was way more valuable to his team. Boozer & Noah missed over 60 games combined and Rose still got the Bulls to the 1 seed.

    • @tpsam
      @tpsam 6 років тому +43

      Brandon Reed only people who don't get this are the ones who didn't watch the games during that season! drose was insanely on an other level

    • @brandonreed3670
      @brandonreed3670 6 років тому +28

      Yeah and it's not even like Bron was that much better stat wise that year, he and Wade basically cancelled each other out. That Bulls team had no business getting the 1 seed with 2 of their 4 best players missing that many games. Noah only played 49 games.

    • @connorsmith6517
      @connorsmith6517 6 років тому +12

      Brandon Reed ok I agree rose should of been MVP. But Lebron averaged 27/7/7/1/1 on 51% from the field and 33% from 3 while playing all NBA defense. Rose averaged 25/4/8/1/1 on 44% from the field and 33% from 3. Id say the stats lean in Lebrons favor and Lebron was still the best player in the world. But I'm fine with rose getting MVP

    • @mcoeif
      @mcoeif 6 років тому +1

      Al Bundy F.B.Z. z Tom Thibodeau was the real MVP of that team. Without Thibs, those early 2010's Bulls weren't even playoffs worthy talent wise. LeBron could take any coach or any supporting cast to at least the second round of the playoffs.

    • @razkable
      @razkable 6 років тому +6

      D wade in 2009 deserved an mvp too than...30.4 PER 2nd in the nba.....he was avg 30.4 points per game in 38 minutes played 79 games was scoring champ scored by far almost 35o more points than anyone that year... 7.5 assists which was top 8 per game and he was 8th in total assists by the end of the year... 2.2 steals which was top 2 per game and total...and he avg 1.3 blocks ...which was 16th in per game and he was 16th in total shot blocks for the year...let me say that again.....a 6'3 215 lb shooting guard was the 16th best shot.blocker when the 15 guys ahead of him were all big centers who were at least 6'9 230 ....and he was 6 blocks away from being top 13....and the 19 guys behind him in the top 35 were all pf and centers who were also at least 6'9 ......he was the only guard in the top 50....to be top 7 in assists the other guys are all point guards ahead of him aka their job and besides LeBron were all point guards naturally cause they playnake and have ball in their hands in the top 20 and to be 2nd in steals when the other top 6 are point guards and usually is them and 1st in points is great and expected of him but top 16 in blocks is insane... shot 49% fg 77% ft 32% from 3 which for him was amazing cause he used to rareley take or make them but this season he was shooting them with confidence as if he's always done that .....have you ever seen a player be top 16 in blocks points assists steals and lewd all guards in rebounds......me neither..mvp case...he won 48 games after being out and the team winning 15 and losing shaq ...33 win increase...give him kobes roster he would have won 73 with them . ..why was he third in mvp

  • @SuperKool500
    @SuperKool500 6 років тому +879

    I agree, Rose was more *valuable.*

    • @RackedupYe300
      @RackedupYe300 6 років тому +73

      Bill Cosby nigga what 😂😂😂💀💀💀 lebron would've done the same thing

    • @zumzici1234
      @zumzici1234 6 років тому +8

      I love Curry, but damn this is so true. So far Curry hasn't really proven himself in clutch situations leading the team to wins on his shoulders alone.

    • @geekmuscle657
      @geekmuscle657 6 років тому +4

      TheHolyDream LeBron played two terrible team's in the 07 playoffs and was on a top 5 defensive team as well

    • @FugieGamers
      @FugieGamers 6 років тому +12

      Bron is like the most valuable player all time lmao shut up

    • @GrahamCStrouse
      @GrahamCStrouse 6 років тому +4

      Bill Cosby Seriously? I dunno. Maybe you just sipped the drink you usually give the girls, Bill Cosby...

  • @andremej6305
    @andremej6305 6 років тому +54

    man d rose had crazy athletism but those landings were knee suicide man but just watching highlights hurts as a bulls fan

    • @twoface9959
      @twoface9959 6 років тому +1

      Andre Mej If only the Bulls never signed Boozer, and let Gibson develop instead, as well Butler developing a bit earlier. Rose couldn't carry it by himself.

  • @Bluelemonzz
    @Bluelemonzz 6 років тому +29

    Great video. As a Miami Heat fan, I remember the year Rose got the MVP. He was such a scary player. Always finding a way to drive to the basket, going around any player for his shots. He was just so dominant. I think with Lebron, he's been amazing from the very beginning, that we just expect greatness and more from him every season. Rose stuck out as the MVP for all the reasons you mentioned.. that his team wasn't that great, but achieved the best record above the Heat. If it wasn't for his injuries, man who knows what could've happened the next few years with the Bulls.

  • @donsolos
    @donsolos 6 років тому +22

    "Why can't I be MVP?" D rose.
    you remember when he said that before that season?!?! INCREDIBLE!, this season really was magical from D rose. and all the more so that he was never able to replicate it
    I also remember reading Pat Rileys article midseason about D Rose deserving the MVP at that point and then the snowball effect that article created into the MVP
    i forgot about all the injuries, hard to remember anything other than how hard rose balled
    LOVED THE ENDING!

  • @DibbyDibbyDog
    @DibbyDibbyDog 6 років тому +319

    Lebron couldn't let those 5 arrows fly... oh wait wrong vid

  • @scrub2789
    @scrub2789 6 років тому +88

    Don't forget the Bulls had Brian Scalabrine

  • @TheCrazyyGamer
    @TheCrazyyGamer 6 років тому +179

    Smh too many young fans in this comments. That probably didn't see neither MVP rose or young heat lebron

    • @Jboooog18
      @Jboooog18 6 років тому +3

      Wayne he had a GREAT case

    • @dxp96
      @dxp96 6 років тому +9

      If MVP Rose and Olympic Melo cameback the knicks would be unstoppable..

    • @lilhugh4726
      @lilhugh4726 6 років тому

      AlekseyAksenov I'm 13 and I missed only a game of that season when I was 6

    • @Fidel_cashflo
      @Fidel_cashflo 6 років тому +2

      His argument is basically "he did less with less". Very very thin. MVP goes to the player who had the best regular season and that was Dwight. Rose had an amazing season but he won because he was the media child, simple as that.

    • @thecelestialknights
      @thecelestialknights 6 років тому +5

      WavesDontDie so taking a .500 team to a 60 win 1st seed in the east over miami, and noah and boozer basically hurt half the season isnt deserving of the mvp?

  • @surgeJ
    @surgeJ 6 років тому +34

    "Dwayne Wade before his knees expired" LOOOL

  • @bowskee
    @bowskee 6 років тому +85

    some people gotta know that LeBron already won 2 MVPs before '11 and that he was the most hated player at his time while the Bulls aged 22 carried the Bulls to a 62-20 season. It's like a storyline

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas 6 років тому +10

      Junky Munky stop it

    • @PRIDEATH
      @PRIDEATH 6 років тому +38

      Eddie Thomas what do you mean 'stop it' it absolutely is a story. The guy from Chicago leading them to the number 1 seed while beating Lebron, the bad guy. It's absolutely a story..

    • @asmith4549
      @asmith4549 5 років тому +1

      @@PRIDEATH And the story ends with the heat destroying the bulls in the East finals lol

    • @kohsmoger1567
      @kohsmoger1567 5 років тому +2

      Austin Smith when lebron had by far the superior team

    • @X02Overdose
      @X02Overdose 5 років тому +4

      Austin Smith And proceeded to get embarrassed by Jason Terry

  • @Ghostface2point0
    @Ghostface2point0 6 років тому +14

    13:30 to this day I still have no clue how Rose even found that angle. I was confused af watching live cuz I KNEW it was getting blocked. Dude was incredible

    • @tmac731
      @tmac731 3 роки тому +4

      This layup is what separates Westbrook and Rose.

    • @eboy4216
      @eboy4216 2 роки тому

      @@tmac731 no it’s not

    • @tmac731
      @tmac731 2 роки тому +1

      @@eboy4216 how? Westbrook would’ve gotten blocked trying to go over that top of everybody

    • @Doatello1991
      @Doatello1991 10 місяців тому

      ⁠@@eboy4216 Yes, it is. When it comes to pure finishing ability at the rim, Derrick Rose pre-ACL injury blew Westbrook out of the water.

    • @eboy4216
      @eboy4216 10 місяців тому

      @Doatello1991 rose was much better at other things so to say this layup Is the thing to separate Westbrook and rose is imo disrespectful

  • @aceklub96
    @aceklub96 6 років тому

    another excellent video. brought up points I had forgotten.

  • @mrbucs
    @mrbucs 6 років тому +18

    Finally dom2k came out with another vid been waiting

  • @titan126
    @titan126 6 років тому +3

    Always good to hear, "What's up NBA fans, Dom2K on the mic"

  • @kavinkrishnasami6004
    @kavinkrishnasami6004 6 років тому +35

    Dom is easily the most unbiased and knowledgeable NBA youtuber

  • @Caesarsinclairjr17
    @Caesarsinclairjr17 6 років тому

    this dude has the best video ideas on youtube hands down

  • @SMFCAWFAN
    @SMFCAWFAN 6 років тому +9

    That video ending is a big fucking W

    • @kb4231
      @kb4231 6 років тому

      LORD KEITH yeaahhhhh

  • @tangaraspeedgoda7436
    @tangaraspeedgoda7436 4 роки тому +6

    The reality is Lebron shouldn't even have been second in that MVP race.

  • @bendreier1593
    @bendreier1593 6 років тому

    dude your videos are great im glad i found your channel

  • @ytsmokes1606
    @ytsmokes1606 6 років тому

    Much respect for this video Dom2k

  • @legendaryfizz4883
    @legendaryfizz4883 6 років тому +4

    Just the video I needed 😌😌

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    @sammyorigin7689 6 років тому +49

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  • @spitnificent
    @spitnificent 6 років тому

    Your videos and logic are always on point.

  • @glodimvovi2345
    @glodimvovi2345 6 років тому

    Dom2k back at it again with the best videos

  • @jordantassone
    @jordantassone 6 років тому +5

    Never clicked on a Dom2k video so fast

  • @TTSCAM
    @TTSCAM 4 роки тому +6

    It been 9 years since this man won MVP of the league when nobody else expected him to 💪🏾 shit sad I’m mad we didn’t get to see what he would’ve been in his prime 💯

  • @tathagatroy8884
    @tathagatroy8884 6 років тому

    much needed video dude

  • @ElGranSanto
    @ElGranSanto 6 років тому

    Seriously though, this was an incredible vid. Easy sub.

  • @Flamangatang
    @Flamangatang Рік тому +3

    One thing you didn’t mention was the amount of clutch shots and clutch performances Derrick Rose had that season.
    One game in particular against Miami where he made clutch shots and set up Deng for the game winning three.
    Off the top of my head I also remember game winners vs Milwaukee & Houston. If you look at any Close Bulls game from 2010-2011 you will see Rose being clutch

  • @theking5968
    @theking5968 6 років тому +30

    I agree that rose deserved the mvp this year but you should've mentioned how when LeBron played for the Cavs they had the best record in the league 2 years in a row then when he left they had the worst record. Shows his value.

    • @kaz7690
      @kaz7690 6 років тому +9

      Right, and the Heat didn't even improve by that much. Pretty sure they only upgraded by less than 10 wins. Rose brought the Bulls from 8th to 1st with practically no help.

    • @theking5968
      @theking5968 6 років тому +8

      Wayne they improved by 11 wins and would've been a lot better if not for the shaky start. They also went from being a first round exit team to a finals team.
      And I said rose deserved it anyway.

    • @voltaire6062
      @voltaire6062 6 років тому +6

      Why would he mention that?

    • @theking5968
      @theking5968 6 років тому +4

      A. E. Cooper because that happened the year rose won MVP and it shows how valuable LeBron is

    • @geeto99
      @geeto99 6 років тому +11

      When LeBron left Shaq left the same year and so did about 6 other teammates. LeBron left without telling the Cavs he was leaving so they didn't find a replacement.

  • @adrianthompson4833
    @adrianthompson4833 6 років тому

    Everytime I watch a Dom2K video, I always nod my head to that opening beat.

  • @Bigslay28
    @Bigslay28 6 років тому

    Dom2k snapped me back🐐🐐

  • @omarmana4842
    @omarmana4842 6 років тому +470

    I also got robbed

    • @CP3GOAT
      @CP3GOAT 6 років тому +69

      Kobe Bryant you also robbed cp3 lol

    • @vlopez078
      @vlopez078 6 років тому +5

      Peyton Overall when???

    • @drgfromnyc
      @drgfromnyc 6 років тому +14

      PGod13 & Westbeast to LAKERS in 2018 In 2008, when Kobe won his sole MVP over Chris Paul.
      I'm not saying who I wanted to win MVP that year, but it's common belief that Chris Paul should've won MVP that season.

    • @A7OldRscplayer
      @A7OldRscplayer 6 років тому +49

      I've literally never heard that ever LMFAO
      Kobe was robbed of at least 3 MVPs

    • @clyde6082
      @clyde6082 6 років тому +29

      Jules no he wasn't, Kobe just put up big scoring numbers on teams with worst records than the MVP winners. That doesn't make him more valuable

  • @mademan7641
    @mademan7641 6 років тому +24

    About time somebody destroyed this myth people praise Lebron for his carry job yet give no credit to Lebron. I'm a curry fan but D Rose has my respect 6 years later.

  • @Sos4real
    @Sos4real 6 років тому

    Great video, big fan of your work and research.

  • @beeble7636
    @beeble7636 6 років тому +2

    i love the creativity at the end

  • @nelsonneal9243
    @nelsonneal9243 6 років тому +3

    imagine trying to hold an argument with dom2k. impossible to win

  • @Levan4KGaming
    @Levan4KGaming 6 років тому +5

    Eh D Rose was so awesome i really miss his game, because of his early years he became one of my favorite player ever

  • @absm00thMusic
    @absm00thMusic 6 років тому

    bruh your video be legit fire fam i hope u have much success

  • @superjede334
    @superjede334 6 років тому

    Great vid Dom2k. Nothing but facts!

  • @YoungDen
    @YoungDen 6 років тому +10

    Funny thing DRose and Lebron are teammates and they probably gonna talk about that year

  • @wordtoyobamawhatsbrakingni4572
    @wordtoyobamawhatsbrakingni4572 6 років тому +4

    If somebody makes eye contact with me too long to the point were I have to stop looking first, then expect to run a fade on sight. I'm folding niggas #facts

  • @jonnyboy1937
    @jonnyboy1937 6 років тому

    First time coming back to this channel in awhile, I fw the intro heavy

  • @trigun442
    @trigun442 6 років тому

    This was perfectly said. Thanks Dom that was such a detailed argument.

  • @raulslaggings5824
    @raulslaggings5824 6 років тому +4

    Wtf... LeBron had dwade and Bosh. Ray Allen came along. The eat bench was deep. Rose had Noah.... There's no comparisson, rose led bulls to #1 seed in the east with no help on offense.. y'all crazy to think he deserved MVP over rose who carried that bulls team to a. Better record...

    • @MrSlashblade
      @MrSlashblade 6 років тому

      Raul Slaggings I can tell you don’t watch basketball past 2016 you’d have some pointers if you said he had Deng only. You just saw the player who had the most accomplishments and said that was the help. And please that Heat 2011 team was not that deep

    • @raulslaggings5824
      @raulslaggings5824 6 років тому +3

      what does 2016 have to do with the 2011-2012 season.? lol thats who you wanna start comparing to wade and bosh, luol deng!? lmaoo so you're saying the heat had a worse team than the bulls? lmao you have no idea what you're talking about.. bro you take dross off that team, bulls are lottery team at best. don't even @ me bro lmao your comment is ridiculous. stats aint even shit, I'm saying if you take rose off the bulls and lebron off the heat, the heat are still one of the top teams in the east, the bulls are a lottery team, thats just facts

    • @MrSlashblade
      @MrSlashblade 6 років тому

      Raul Slaggings the problem with your theory is the fact that they did take Rose off the team via injury and then they won 47 games and then they went to the second round before losing to the heat in 5 in the year 2013, 2 whole years of a roster aging. I’m saying that the fact that you used Noah when he wasn’t the second best player or even the best defender at the time tells me you don’t watch until the year 2016, the Bulls were favorite since they swept the regular season series against Miami and the final nail in the coffin is Rose won it in 2010-2011. At least make me try

    • @raulslaggings5824
      @raulslaggings5824 6 років тому +2

      mrslash blade again. Nobody talking about 2013. They added gasol am I wrong? Pretty sure he was a top 5 center/pf at the time... Don't act like they stayed the same, Jimmy Butler was evolving into a superstar. Nigga plz. Ain't nobody talking about 2013. We talking about the team that has no gasol, and a rookie jb who was still not getting minutes and developing. Go back and check everything, ain't nobody quoting the bulls the favorite coming out the east 😂😂 LeBron, Wade, Bosh.. that's all I gotta say man. Rose yeah no body compared to those players, argue all you want but facts are facts mam

    • @MrSlashblade
      @MrSlashblade 6 років тому

      Raul Slaggings you just said take Rose off that team and they don’t go to the post season, I gave you an example where they do with an older roster and you say it’s obsolete. And when Gasol went to the Bulls he was not a top 5 pf/c hell he wasn’t even the best Gasol, and the year I gave you had Butler coming off the bench. You just completely exposed yourself proving you didn’t start watching basketball until 2016.
      And yes people thought that the MVP of a 60 win bulls team who destroyed Miami in the regular season with the coach of the year was favorite in the 2011 ECF. You really don’t watch basketball.

  • @joshuajap
    @joshuajap 6 років тому +3

    HOW BOUT NEXT YOU DO A VIDEO OF THE MYTH THAT KOBE BRYANT DESERVED MORE THAN 1 MVP (2003-2009)

    • @kohsmoger1567
      @kohsmoger1567 4 роки тому

      Well he did. In 2006 he should have won mvp

  • @brycecarlisle9340
    @brycecarlisle9340 6 років тому

    Dude your channel is the best

  • @DQ_Senpai
    @DQ_Senpai 6 років тому

    That DBz part had me dying
    I'm glad you are on UA-cam Dom you're probably the realest nba tuber I know

  • @willbowden6897
    @willbowden6897 4 роки тому +3

    "Why not, why can't I be the MVP of the league, why can't I be the best player in the league?"

  • @JesusJ23
    @JesusJ23 6 років тому +6

    Rose's problem wasnt his injury. Paul george had a worst injury and he recovered from it. The problem that derrick rose have is that he is unavailable to shoot the ball in a league where the three point has become more and more important every year. Yeah he has lost explosiveness but if he was a better shooter and passer it would not matter. Despite all of this, he deserved the mvp in 2011

    • @Dom2k16
      @Dom2k16  6 років тому +16

      Jesus Jimenez Bones heal better than ligaments

    • @JesusJ23
      @JesusJ23 6 років тому

      Dom2k well that is true

    • @colinmc06
      @colinmc06 6 років тому +4

      You're forgetting the fact that Paul George hasn't suffered any serious injuries since then. Once Rose got injured once, the other knee injuries started happening and happening he couldn't be on the court and his explosiveness dropped as you mentioned by tearing your acl 20 times. Last year rose averaged 18 ppg and was still a good starter.

    • @skatevidcentral
      @skatevidcentral 6 років тому +1

      Broken leg is actually better than a blown ACL. Joint injuries are always worse.
      Not to mention, Rose's game and dominance was centered around his explosiveness and athleticism. He relied on his quick change of direction moves to get in the lane and to the basket which puts lots of stress on the joints. Paul George's playstyle not as much. Also before his injuries Rose was improving his shooting season by season and from the 3-point range.

    • @deema_q4963
      @deema_q4963 5 років тому +2

      No. That is absolutley false. Everybody recovers from injuries differently. However, Paul George is very lucky that he is still a very good player. Also i just wanna add that paul George did not have the worst injury ever it may have looked terrible but drose tore his ACL,Meniscus and plenty of other injuries. And keep in mind PG didn't have any other injuries before he broke his leg.

  • @cliffwoodbury5319
    @cliffwoodbury5319 6 років тому

    amazing research..... u one of the best at this on the whole internet..

  • @nathanendeavour8211
    @nathanendeavour8211 2 роки тому +1

    I legit save this video to watch now and then.

  • @javianjohnson8746
    @javianjohnson8746 6 років тому +7

    Rose won that fair and square.

  • @uhRoid
    @uhRoid 6 років тому +38

    No offense, but do you _really_ need a 25 second long "intro"?

    • @JesusChrist-kh3by
      @JesusChrist-kh3by 6 років тому +8

      NaOCl I know I love his vids but it's so annoying

    • @demonreturns4336
      @demonreturns4336 6 років тому +1

      yes

    • @teearedee4291
      @teearedee4291 4 роки тому

      "Why not? Why cant i be mvp of the league? Why cant i be the best player of the league?"

  • @royfridlender4144
    @royfridlender4144 6 років тому

    LOVE the ending dom

  • @damiencenters5376
    @damiencenters5376 6 років тому

    those bulls heat games were so awesome to watch I'm a massive Bulls fan so I'm glad to see a video like this backing up D Rose

  • @tristane2382
    @tristane2382 5 років тому +3

    Keith Bogans 😂😂

  • @MatixGL2000
    @MatixGL2000 6 років тому +52

    Do you know what we deserve?
    A Legend Of Winnin' Collab😊😎

    • @PRIDEATH
      @PRIDEATH 6 років тому +6

      Malick GL LOW says to much dumb shit imo, like he says a lot of controversial things.

    • @bubbachuck3jr642
      @bubbachuck3jr642 6 років тому +2

      Knicks 4 Life especially when it comes to legends. He discredits them to push his narrative that Lebron is the closest to Jordan which I completely disagree. There have been players that have won with less and carried a larger role than Lebron. He also likes to ignore the rule changes that benefits perimeter players in this era and puts defenses at a disadvantage

    • @PRIDEATH
      @PRIDEATH 6 років тому +1

      bubbachuck3jr I agree and agree again that LeBron isn't the 'closest to Jordan' although only an idiot would think that LeBron doesn't have a chance to surpass MJ when he's done

  • @jephtahcoe
    @jephtahcoe 4 роки тому +2

    This was legitimately and a very sophisticated explanation that makes total sense on hoq underrated his MVP season. Really loved the breakdown and insight!
    And he was actually 6'1 that whole time btw, dunking on everyone!!! #DRose

  • @Rodneyjackson11
    @Rodneyjackson11 6 років тому

    Another dope video man

  • @lavarball6875
    @lavarball6875 6 років тому +14

    What about the myth that my sons are busts

    • @justinhoward1229
      @justinhoward1229 6 років тому

      Lavar Ball It's no myth bud

    • @nickwatters2817
      @nickwatters2817 6 років тому

      It is a myth noob Lonzo is the GOAT

    • @kelleybrown2626
      @kelleybrown2626 6 років тому

      He actually took the time out to make a fake lavar ball account 😂😂😂

  • @MountagaDiallo22
    @MountagaDiallo22 6 років тому +21

    I'm a huge LeBron James fan, but c'mon guys, give D.Rose some love. He deserved this MVP more than Bron

  • @connorsmith6517
    @connorsmith6517 6 років тому

    This video has been needed

  • @mycontentistrash1243
    @mycontentistrash1243 6 років тому

    Dom the argument killer

  • @THEEHaydenRush
    @THEEHaydenRush 6 років тому +26

    if Westbrook can win the mvp while averging a triple double and being a only a 6th seed,why can't LeBron win finals mvp while averging a triple double and lose

    • @johnnykilroy3737
      @johnnykilroy3737 6 років тому +1

      Fax

    • @TheCharlesJackson
      @TheCharlesJackson 6 років тому +14

      THEEHayden Rush because it's empty. Curry almost averaged a triple double too. Should he have been FMVP over KD? Regular season is different. It's a regular season award. Some ppl are jist commenting without watching the video.

    • @THEEHaydenRush
      @THEEHaydenRush 6 років тому +8

      TheCharlesJackson LeBron also almost avereged a triple double in the regular season

    • @lebrontherealgoat5835
      @lebrontherealgoat5835 6 років тому +1

      W

    • @voltaire6062
      @voltaire6062 6 років тому +3

      I don't think they're ever gonna give it to a player off the losing team again

  • @rokkarlic4166
    @rokkarlic4166 6 років тому +10

    ROSE HAD NO HELP????? WHAT ABOUT THE BEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE MY BAD OF ALL TIME, BRIAN SCALABRINE

  • @th3cup1d92
    @th3cup1d92 6 років тому

    Dom nohomo man but I love you for this Video man. Keep Grinding your gonna get big!!!

  • @cantbebotheredchangingmypr5714
    @cantbebotheredchangingmypr5714 6 років тому

    Dom you have the BEST thumbnails

  • @jonatanbarrang4353
    @jonatanbarrang4353 4 роки тому +3

    Dwight Howard deserved 2010-11 MVP more than Lebron that season.

    • @wildcat_savage96-33
      @wildcat_savage96-33 3 роки тому

      No

    • @jonatanbarrang4353
      @jonatanbarrang4353 3 роки тому

      @@wildcat_savage96-33 Lebron play with 1 superstar and 1 abpve averaged all star, while still finish 2nd, while Dwight with no star teammate, led Orlando to finish 4th, while put a two way season, on defense and offense not just win DPOY.

  • @SincereNetwork4
    @SincereNetwork4 6 років тому +6

    57 likes and 32 views wow UA-cam congratulations you played yourself

  • @twoface9959
    @twoface9959 6 років тому

    You just earned yourself a new subscriber. Amazing video. 😁😁👏👏

  • @loko132159
    @loko132159 6 років тому

    You won my vote with the Dbz clip at the end

  • @willygonzalez5141
    @willygonzalez5141 6 років тому +134

    MVP Rose > MVP Westbrook

    • @kaz7690
      @kaz7690 6 років тому +27

      Individually no, as for what he did for the team, yes.

    • @ohmangoddamn1986
      @ohmangoddamn1986 6 років тому +8

      Just no. Even with Boozer and Noah missing games, they were STILL better than everyone on the Thunder lmfao

    • @dweezy4103
      @dweezy4103 6 років тому +2

      OhMan Goddamn in terms of leading a team 100x yes. individually? nah

    • @nicestfilms22
      @nicestfilms22 6 років тому +2

      The Vanity oh easily

    • @UnplayedGaming
      @UnplayedGaming 6 років тому +14

      better passer scorer defender ROSE

  • @zero1188
    @zero1188 6 років тому +157

    finally someone says it. derrick rose deserved it. these are the same people who think lebron is better than jordan smh

    • @black_savage96
      @black_savage96 6 років тому +2

      zero lol what?

    • @walterzhao5191
      @walterzhao5191 6 років тому +31

      zero LeBron is better tho

    • @youngcitybandit
      @youngcitybandit 6 років тому +5

      zero eh i see why people like lbj more than mj. imo its wrong but it makes sense

    • @damarkomoore5236
      @damarkomoore5236 6 років тому +20

      Walter Zhao Lmao stop it bronsexual

    • @gloedup150
      @gloedup150 6 років тому +9

      Bronsexuals are braindead nobody takes their opinion serious lmao

  • @PokemasterGamer45
    @PokemasterGamer45 6 років тому +2

    Not even starting the vid, but just want to pose an idea. Swap Rose and LeBron and see what happens. If MVP Rose had a running mate like Wade and/or Bosh and players who could knock down an open shot, damn it'd be too easy
    That season was special bc of how special Rose was and how good that team was despite all the flaws. 2010-11 Rose was similar to 07 LeBron and 01 Iverson

  • @Flow_Easy
    @Flow_Easy 6 років тому

    Another great video!
    But I still need the name of that intro beat Dom. I'm not asking for the Krabby patty secret formula 😂😂😂

  • @Memeposting
    @Memeposting 6 років тому +184

    James Jones Was the NBA MVP That Year like if you agree!!!!!!!!!!

    • @bullsnation5808
      @bullsnation5808 6 років тому +5

      NBA Know It All he carried LeBron

    • @goldensperm7182
      @goldensperm7182 6 років тому

      NBA Know It All nope it's juwan Howard the real mvp

    • @crackhead2210
      @crackhead2210 6 років тому +1

      The white mamba has been MVP since basketball started and will be forever and ever he was snubbed this year

    • @Memeposting
      @Memeposting 6 років тому

      Straight up facts

    • @squackersquacker6140
      @squackersquacker6140 6 років тому

      NBA Know It All nope it was Brian Scalabrine

  • @pac-man7318
    @pac-man7318 6 років тому

    Grreat Video!!! Good stuff Brother. You're good at these videos. Props to you. I will be showing this video to people I know that hate on DRose's MVP. So Thank You for this video lol

  • @andrethomas2539
    @andrethomas2539 6 років тому

    Youre a legend for that ending

  • @jeremyturner1331
    @jeremyturner1331 6 років тому +5

    Dwayne wade before his knees expired 😂😂😂

  • @justanaccount8636
    @justanaccount8636 6 років тому +213

    Prime D-Rose > Steph Curry

    • @johonanandrewgomes7593
      @johonanandrewgomes7593 6 років тому +9

      Quavo Ratatouille prime D rose is the rose now lol it should be MVP DRose>Curry but hope fully he has a great season this year because he is my 2nd favourite player

    • @RackedupYe300
      @RackedupYe300 6 років тому +18

      Quavo Ratatouille fuck no

    • @KSlayer112
      @KSlayer112 6 років тому +23

      Quavo Ratatouille Curry has nothing to do with this video and Curry > Rose. L

    • @meatcanon685
      @meatcanon685 6 років тому +32

      2011 d rose>2011 curry. 2016 curry>2011 rose

    • @kaz7690
      @kaz7690 6 років тому +16

      Not even close. Unanimous MVP, 73-9, 50-40-90, list goes on.

  • @yonisali3999
    @yonisali3999 6 років тому

    THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO!!!

  • @OneLeggedStormChaser
    @OneLeggedStormChaser 6 років тому

    So so so well done Dom, nice work

  • @ccannon1258
    @ccannon1258 6 років тому +60

    I remember my dad said he wasn't gonna get me real basketball sneaks until I became a real baller. I worked that whole summer everyday and legit got 5 times better. He saw me try out for my middle school team and that same day he got me the all red D Rose 2.5s. The following week I got a high ankle sprain and missed damn near the whole season...fuck D rose and those sneakers

    • @aphelis
      @aphelis 6 років тому +3

      Young Draco Malfoy I'm done lmao

    • @jahshield13
      @jahshield13 6 років тому +22

      This comment seemed so positive and than just took a nose dive out of nowhere.

    • @dweezy4103
      @dweezy4103 6 років тому +8

      lmao same. i baughy droses n broke my foot the next week. last year i boughy more droses (the 5s i think) and sprained my acl 😂 jts all bc the shoes lol

    • @antlora81
      @antlora81 6 років тому

      Lmao that's fucked up in so many ways

  • @kaikawasumi
    @kaikawasumi 6 років тому +9

    But Jordan was robbed of a bunch of awards right? The Bulls had a more well rounded roster and better bench. You gloss over players like Korver and Deng like they were scrubs. The Heat had 3 actual good players on their roster and that was it. No PG, no non-old big-man, nothing. If LeBron was on that Bulls team he would have been a little less efficient but had better stats, because he would've been forced to do nearly everything like he was with the Cavs in his two previous MVP seasons. Aside from his rookie season LeBron has NEVER shot 44% like Rose did, not even under 47%. You can say being better than Rose or basically equal to Rose that year in every statistical category means nothing because of team records all you want, but it sure starts to sound like you're calling it a team award doesn't it? 🤔Basketball is a lot like baseball in the way that the numbers easily and clearly show who has the biggest impact on the game in most cases. One day I hope the league just stops this media voting nonsense and starts giving the MVP to the guy with the best statistical stats, even if it means giving it to a guy on a worse team. It would stop all this crafting of narrative bs. LeBron should have 6 MVPs (also CLEARLY robbed in 2007-08) and James Harden should have 2. Let the fans and media complain about it, they'll get over it.

    • @mcoeif
      @mcoeif 6 років тому

      Kai Kawasumi Lost in all of this is how massive of an influence Thibs was on how good those early 2010's Bulls were. They won 60 games because of their defense more than because of Rose.

    • @scoesixtray2457
      @scoesixtray2457 6 років тому +5

      Kai Kawasumi
      Rose's STARTING Shooting Guard averaged 4 PPG.
      LeBron's starting Shooting Guard was Dwayne Wade.
      LeBron's own teammate (Chris Bosh) & LeBron himself admitted that Derrick Rose was the CLEAR MVP.

    • @X02Overdose
      @X02Overdose 6 років тому

      Kai Kawasumi LeBron didn’t even finish 2nd in MVP voting plus the star power they had trumped anything the Bulls had outside Rose

  • @ChristianCarpesoChannel
    @ChristianCarpesoChannel 6 років тому

    If there's one thing I loved on this channel is that logic that it gives.

  • @bensteinberg2540
    @bensteinberg2540 6 років тому +2

    Lol I love the term you used for dwyane wade, "expired"

  • @TJay-ck1vt
    @TJay-ck1vt 6 років тому +5

    GIANNIS WILL BREAK THE NBA. CHECK OUT MY GIANNIS MIX. 🔥🔥🔥