If DPOYs Were Given To the BEST Defender (2010s)

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  • Опубліковано 14 кві 2024
  • The NBA typically gives its Defensive Player of the Year award to players who meet certain criterias... but what if the DPOY was just given to the best defender? We're looking at who would win it in those cases from the 2010s.
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  • @jonnyarnett
    @jonnyarnett  Місяць тому +41

    Who was the most overlooked defender of the 2010s??

    • @yoitsSmitty2004
      @yoitsSmitty2004 Місяць тому +6

      Og Annouby and Danny Green

    • @michaelbritt7397
      @michaelbritt7397 Місяць тому +8

      Tony Allen

    • @terencebryson1990
      @terencebryson1990 Місяць тому +6

      Tony Allen

    • @august6281
      @august6281 Місяць тому +3

      Bogut?
      Like Noah ang Marc, they dont average lots of blocks, they dont have spectacular blocks but it's hard to score on them

    • @spookysquirtle
      @spookysquirtle Місяць тому

      tony allen

  • @TheIcemanthomas
    @TheIcemanthomas Місяць тому +169

    Maaaan Dwight was an absolute monster of a defender and rebounder. Shame he gets shit on so much. Smh

    • @S3verusMyG
      @S3verusMyG Місяць тому +16

      Dwights legacy really took a hit after all the SA and queer controversy's, which is fair since imagining a 6''11 250lb booty warrior is scary

    • @jaceking5938
      @jaceking5938 Місяць тому +11

      @S3verusMyG a) that's not fair, who cares who he's attracted to
      B) his reputation took a hit a long time before that, basically during his first lakers stint and cemented during his rockets years

    • @cypher787
      @cypher787 Місяць тому +8

      The fact that he didn't make the nba 75 team and.melo did is a goddamn travesty

    • @Bigedub101
      @Bigedub101 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@cypher787Man that's the biggest crime in NBA history

    • @Bigedub101
      @Bigedub101 Місяць тому

      ​@@jaceking5938I think his rep got hurt cause he played in Lakers and being called soft even tho he messed his back up

  • @celtics17banners84
    @celtics17banners84 Місяць тому +106

    Love seeing defense get more of a spotlight. Good series

    • @christophergooding9820
      @christophergooding9820 23 дні тому

      Just reading off basketball reference stats is not putting a spotlight on defense.

  • @npa2005
    @npa2005 Місяць тому +436

    I find it really interesting that everyone complains about LeBron not winning in 2013, but when you actually went and looked at the races, he has a better case for 2012.

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Місяць тому +166

      I think it's seriously just the 2nd team for Marc Gasol. That detail throws people off, and a lot of folks don't understand that 2 different voting groups were responsible for those results.

    • @kaydee878
      @kaydee878 Місяць тому +92

      @@jonnyarnett exactly. people think Gasol shouldn't get dpoy since he was all defensive 2nd team, when if you really sit down and look at the film, numbers, Gasol got robbed of 1st team, not Lebron getting robbed of dpoy

    • @hunterwade9030
      @hunterwade9030 Місяць тому +6

      @@jonnyarnettTyson make second team as well right

    • @2playschemeo.p.croutes724
      @2playschemeo.p.croutes724 Місяць тому +11

      I hate that people say Lebron was robbed. What about the other 21 years he’s has played. He had that many opportunities to win whatever award he wants. The league would love to give Lebron a DPOY, he is the face of the league. The fact that he doesn’t have one is because he’s never earned one

    • @OMAR-vk9pi
      @OMAR-vk9pi Місяць тому +89

      @@2playschemeo.p.croutes724god that logic is horrible it’s sad

  • @jordanjenkins1671
    @jordanjenkins1671 Місяць тому +26

    Crazy that from 2018 on, the DPOY is going to be mostly owned by 2 tall Frenchmen.

    • @jomm7671
      @jomm7671 Місяць тому +12

      Including the fact that the projected no. 1 pick for the 2024 draft is a 7'1 athletic defensive Frenchman named Alex Sarr

    • @thundercracker07
      @thundercracker07 24 дні тому +1

      the french are known for their impeccable defenses but lackluster at winning

    • @VictorWembanyamaSpurs
      @VictorWembanyamaSpurs 23 дні тому +1

      ​@@thundercracker07Tony Parker has something to say about that

    • @thundercracker07
      @thundercracker07 22 дні тому +1

      @@VictorWembanyamaSpurs 1940

  • @SwagnerCountsThings
    @SwagnerCountsThings 29 днів тому +13

    That 2017-18 award had me heated! I was so pissed Davis got shafted

  • @npa2005
    @npa2005 Місяць тому +59

    Hey Jonny, love this series. Was wondering if you are going to do it before the award existed as it would be cool to see the great defenders of the 70s and 60s

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Місяць тому +37

      Yep, that'll be a part of the series, for sure

    • @universalplayz7496
      @universalplayz7496 Місяць тому +8

      1960: Bill Russel
      Repeat that 5 more times
      1966-1968 I’d say wilt as he started focusing more on defense
      1969 back to Russel

    • @npa2005
      @npa2005 Місяць тому +7

      @@universalplayz7496Lol yeah, the 70s will be a lot more interesting than the 60s, although Wilt and maybe Jerry West could at least make the 60s a bit interesting rather than just Bill Russell every year

    • @owensmith2137
      @owensmith2137 Місяць тому

      ​@@jonnyarnettCould you do the 40s and 50s as well?

    • @universalplayz7496
      @universalplayz7496 Місяць тому +4

      @@npa2005 the 70s got alot of Kareem domination since he was a 4x blocks leaders in the 70s despite the first 3 seasons of the 70s not counting blocks so he might’ve had 5x block leader

  • @chiefs816kc
    @chiefs816kc Місяць тому +15

    More excited for Jonny's videos than the upcoming NBA playoffs.

  • @lucastoro6224
    @lucastoro6224 Місяць тому +3

    This video was awesome. I love how you gave context to each year and each player to really understand their impact on the game.

  • @jgray2718
    @jgray2718 Місяць тому +2

    Great series as usual. I love your series _(serieses?)_ re-litigating the awards. I genrally end up agreeing with you, I think because I value things similarly to you.
    I like your emphasis on games played, or at least your consideration of it. 80 games of 9.5/10 defense is better than 60 games of 10/10, and a lot of the time it's easy to end up splitting hairs about who's better when healthy anyway.

  • @hristijandimitrovski8664
    @hristijandimitrovski8664 Місяць тому +23

    Another great serial after MVPs and Finals MVPs 😍😍😍😍

  • @nonamedpleb
    @nonamedpleb Місяць тому +18

    I'd love to hear about your opnion about this years DPOY battle. we all know Wemby leads in stocks but what about the eye test? or advanced stats like oposing player fg% when being guarded (if that stat is even recorded). I wonder if there's more to it.

    • @jonnyarnett
      @jonnyarnett  Місяць тому +35

      Yep! Already finished the script. You'll hear my thoughts on the very next video that drops on this channel.

    • @jaketerpening3284
      @jaketerpening3284 Місяць тому +9

      I have never seen players run away from the basket like they do against Wemby. I definitely feel like he's got the eye test as well. I don't know the advanced stats, but seeing the crazy arc players are needing to get it past him, I imagine their pretty good.

    • @thenorthremembers728
      @thenorthremembers728 Місяць тому +8

      ​@@jaketerpening3284Rudy has had that effect for a while now. People just don't watch him as much. Wemby will probably win at least 5 dpoy in his career tho.

    • @imdarealani
      @imdarealani Місяць тому +5

      ​@@jaketerpening3284Rudy Gobert has been doing this from the beginning lol, not sure why people are acting like Wemby has done it for the first time?

    • @davidschmidt1793
      @davidschmidt1793 Місяць тому +2

      @@jaketerpening3284 I've seen players do that a lot against some all time great rim protectors. Even an old Alonzo Mourning terrorized everyone in the paint, his impact in that 2006 finals was huge off the bench. However, seeing a rookie have this type of impact is trully amazing. He can accomplish amazing things if he stays healthy.

  • @Midragor
    @Midragor Місяць тому +1

    Great video Jonny ! This serie rules

  • @rajathnayak5624
    @rajathnayak5624 Місяць тому +5

    was waiting for this!!!!!!!

  • @isaiahbreedlove4829
    @isaiahbreedlove4829 Місяць тому +8

    HE DROPPED🦉

  • @user-qm4go1oc3g
    @user-qm4go1oc3g Місяць тому +1

    Great video as usual! Id personally still give the 2013 award to James though,non-stop sports had a video that had a pretty convincing argument for it. Also what ive seen by retroactively going back and watching games they both played that season reinforced my beliefs but maybe my sample size was too small. As a fan who's 18 it's great to have videos on eras that I barely remember or was not alive to see myself.

  • @jerryezel4530
    @jerryezel4530 Місяць тому

    By far your best video idea, I really enjoyed these defensive debates

  • @rowanwells3841
    @rowanwells3841 29 днів тому

    Another great episode bro

  • @joshuabarnes5870
    @joshuabarnes5870 Місяць тому +7

    Lebron was unreal in 2012 but I’m ngl what Chandler did for that knicks defense was unreal, plus the difference in Dallas with him gone (which has haunted them for years) sealed it imo. Great video as always

  • @anthonyyasona8237
    @anthonyyasona8237 Місяць тому +1

    I'm excited to see the next series of this DPOY 2020's Edition in July 2029 😂

  • @SpicyBrixProds
    @SpicyBrixProds Місяць тому +2

    Jonny, please tell me what the name of the music that is in you intro! 😂 it's so good

  • @breath3010
    @breath3010 Місяць тому +35

    Marc Gasol deserved his flowers

    • @terencebryson1990
      @terencebryson1990 Місяць тому +5

      Agreed

    • @tiktokexposed898
      @tiktokexposed898 Місяць тому +5

      flowers for sure but that DPOY really was LeBron's

    • @justamessenger4577
      @justamessenger4577 Місяць тому +2

      @@tiktokexposed898
      Really curious why you think Lebron should have won it that season over Marc Gasol.

    • @bachnguyenviet4289
      @bachnguyenviet4289 Місяць тому +3

      @@justamessenger4577 Because he was clearly a more versatile defender? That season Tyson chandler and Joakim noah were both tied for 1st team all defense at C position, so realistically speaking Gasol wasn't even the 2nd best defensive center that season. People love bringing up advanced stats and say ''ohhhh Gasol's numbers were way better'' but they forgot that gasol played with mike conley and tony allen who were both defensive monsters and both made all defense 1st team, playing with those guys definitely boosted his numbers. So yeah i'm really curious why you think Lebron should not have won it?

    • @justamessenger4577
      @justamessenger4577 Місяць тому +1

      @@bachnguyenviet4289 This always amazes me. I ask a simple question, not to you by the way, and you automatically think that I think Lebron should not have won the award. This is the second time I have seen you react this way. My friend, I do not care who won the award. Just wanted to have a conversation.

  • @gold-man9
    @gold-man9 Місяць тому

    @Jonnyarnett What’s your thoughts on the three-to-make-two free throw rule and can you make a video on it?

  • @keepercity
    @keepercity Місяць тому +7

    Draymond in the mid 2010's was THE best defensive player I had ever seen. I never saw anyone guard all 5 positions as effortlessly as he did, guards and bigs alike. He also quarterbacked the Warriors defense and would audibly call out the opposing team's sets and plays during games, stifling whatever they had planned. I would be at games, Green would do this, and the other team would almost be confused as to actually run the play after he had called out what they were going to do, or just try something else.
    Green must have been a film room monster, and the best I've ever seen QB a defense. Those championship runs will always be remembered by their high flying offense, but everyone forgets how the Warriors had a top ranked defense in every year they reached the finals. People wjo discount him as a player don't know hoop and let how they feel about him dictate their opinions of him as a player.

    • @nostalgicbliss5547
      @nostalgicbliss5547 29 днів тому +6

      He was amazing on defense from 2015-2019. A true savant on that end. Versatile, great defensive communicator, kinda like how KG used to be, great motor and instincts. Imagine if he was more emotional stable, less volatile and had better athleticism?? It makes me imagine what Bill Russell would have looked like on defense in the modern era. I feel like Russell would be a taller, longer, more athletic version of Green on defense. Or even Hakeem, Pippen, David Robinson, young KG on defense in the modern era, those players were so fun to watch on defense. Intensity, length, athleticism, motor, IQ, timing, anticipation and great instincts.

  • @UnconventionalReasoning
    @UnconventionalReasoning Місяць тому

    This is a helpful video as the 2024 DPOY discussion occurs between Gobert and Wemby.

  • @raimundasm
    @raimundasm Місяць тому +1

    In 2012 it's either Chandler keeping or give it to Ibaka. Dwight Howard had strong case too. That year was actually very close and it's a taught decision.

  • @user-ws8py9pp2r
    @user-ws8py9pp2r 25 днів тому +1

    I think you should do a video talking about the death of the bank shot over the decades cause I rarely see anyone but Ant use it

  • @stanleykwan7759
    @stanleykwan7759 Місяць тому +1

    3:05 dude was caressing Steph's face lmao

    • @RTBiz
      @RTBiz 29 днів тому +1

      Tony Allen FIRST TEAM ALL DEFENSE FOR LIFEEEE

  • @gotwobag7876
    @gotwobag7876 Місяць тому +2

    Happy Monday!!!

  • @jamiekelley4076
    @jamiekelley4076 Місяць тому +4

    Great list. I think my only complaint is LeBron winning the DPOY over Tyson. As good as LeBron was he also benefitted immensely from having another great defender on his team in Dwayne Wade. Wade also finished top 20 in the DPOY race that year. Wade was averaging 1.3 blks per game and 1.7 stls per game. I actually think if he hadn't played in only 49 games that season he probably would have been a much higher contender for DPOY. What isn't in question though was when he played he was just as important to their team defensively as LeBron was.
    In that regards I think Tyson actually made the bigger impact to his team defensively then LeBron did.

    • @nostalgicbliss5547
      @nostalgicbliss5547 29 днів тому

      Also Bosh was great on defense in that system. Especially as a big guarding the pick and roll.

    • @jamiekelley4076
      @jamiekelley4076 28 днів тому +1

      @@nostalgicbliss5547 Yeah the Heat were such a stacked team.

  • @leseanwalston7916
    @leseanwalston7916 Місяць тому +2

    Clearly,,, Wemby DPOY this season gave you the idea for this video🤣💯

  • @GabrielXander
    @GabrielXander 26 днів тому +1

    Seems to me like Tony Allens impact is being ignored in 2013. Not because I think he should’ve won it, but because he still played with the Grizzlies and Gasol specifically. As much as Gasols individual stats matter, they aren’t solely individual because the perimeter defense the Grizzlies had was already solid and having a disciplined backcourt elevates a smart front court which I’ve come to understand was the case that year with Marc Gasol. Like you said, Grizzlies were overall better defensively than the Heat. As well as the somewhat controversial eye test, I believe LeBron was the better defender. You cannot say numbers don’t tell the whole story then turn around and say they do let alone support Gasol with the same points you can support LeBron with. It’s hypocritical.

  • @20noldi
    @20noldi Місяць тому +1

    Thr fact that T Chandler got his team to fifth in defensive ranking while having no other good defender makes him deserving of the dpoy imo. Lebron was playing with D wade, another great defender.

  • @NewwxNeww
    @NewwxNeww Місяць тому

    Video is a bit different from what I had thought it'd be given the title but solid watch

  • @naimjustjokin_
    @naimjustjokin_ 28 днів тому +8

    I’m trusting coaches over media. Bron deserved back to back DPOYs.

    • @samuelfreitas5840
      @samuelfreitas5840 18 днів тому +5

      Coaches overall never said Bron deserved back to back DPOYs 😂

  • @SULLY937
    @SULLY937 24 дні тому

    I need a one like this but for 2020s plz

  • @usafloorgeneral8209
    @usafloorgeneral8209 Місяць тому

    This is completely unrelated to this specific video but can we get a vote on if you should do the greatest All time - “none” MVP team ?? From the greatest/best players to never win a single MVP in their career

  • @sagiofir4677
    @sagiofir4677 Місяць тому +1

    Everyone is talking about Marc and forget that Tyson Chandler was also DPOY and All defensive second tge year prior

  • @awc6007
    @awc6007 Місяць тому +1

    I always thought if you could give Tim Duncan any DPOY with little consequence to NBA history it would be 2012.

  • @MrE_
    @MrE_ Місяць тому +13

    I love seeing availability highlighted. Can't be valuable to your team in street clothes

  • @leonbouadi7382
    @leonbouadi7382 3 дні тому

    2017 could’ve been a turn over for Gobert

  • @VANJAKKOSTJUK
    @VANJAKKOSTJUK Місяць тому

    Sounds good.List that is.

  • @amrwalid04
    @amrwalid04 Місяць тому +2

    Who’s your DPOY for this season though ?

  • @area51alien75
    @area51alien75 29 днів тому

    I didn't know how bad that 2018 DPOY was, that should without a doubt be ADs, it might be the biggest snub to an award ever

  • @hristijandimitrovski8664
    @hristijandimitrovski8664 Місяць тому +8

    Draymond is underrated player and defender overall... Thanks for giving his props because I'm tired of those casuals who are saying that Draymond is trash and that he only has soo good career because of Steph and Warriors. If Draymond wasn't there, those Warriors definitely wouldn't be the same...

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas Місяць тому +2

      Well he’s definitely great but his issue is HE DOESNT SHUT UP. When u toot ur own horn so much, it lends itself to hate and over critique. Especially when u talk crazy about legends like Barkely and say you can be on his level if u were by yourself. But then every single chance he’s gotten to be the number one guy whike Steph and klay were out, that level of play was non existent. He’s his own worst enemy.

  • @lincolnmckay555
    @lincolnmckay555 10 днів тому

    2018 should be Ben Simmons, I get that he was a rookie and they don't like giving rookies these awards. I feel although he may not have had the stocks AD did, his advanced stats are better than anyone else in the NBA that year. I think the perfect stat to prove this is his DBPM was 2.5, and Embiid who finished 2nd in DPOY and was on the same team was 1.3 DBPM (Davis was 1.4). They got the wrong Sixer.

  • @joshuassites
    @joshuassites 26 днів тому

    i do wish guards got more love for dpoy, even though im sure the defensive numbers aren't as impressive as the bigger rip protecting players

  • @sakuragiarcega2973
    @sakuragiarcega2973 27 днів тому

    It's hard for a guard to win DPOY, an average guard can only steal or deflect the ball. A taller player can easily shoot over them. While a center or taller player can block, resulting in a steal and can alter many shot attempts.

  • @erasmodelacruz5748
    @erasmodelacruz5748 Місяць тому +3

    Bron being ranked 101 on defensive rating while I’ve heard for 10 years why he should of won DPOY is hilarious

    • @tiktokexposed898
      @tiktokexposed898 Місяць тому +8

      Using defensive rating shows you don't know how stats work. That's a team stat not individual

    • @franagustin3094
      @franagustin3094 Місяць тому

      @@tiktokexposed898 1v1 Bron is not great. Deal with it

    • @NewwxNeww
      @NewwxNeww Місяць тому +2

      ​@@franagustin3094well that's a lie... But nice pivot ig

    • @NewwxNeww
      @NewwxNeww Місяць тому

      ​@@tiktokexposed898probably my biggest gripe is how people use stats without knowing if they're flawed or not

    • @franagustin3094
      @franagustin3094 Місяць тому

      @@NewwxNeww he lost with barea, even curry cook him

  • @tutoy2toy665
    @tutoy2toy665 28 днів тому

    If ad is consistently playing defense like he did last year in the playoffs he could have multiple dpoys imo.

  • @MrReese
    @MrReese Місяць тому

    Despite the fact that sitting out games just for the sake of it is ridiculous I see no issue with a player "only" playing around 75 % of all games. The load on these players is pretty high and these days they have so many games in their body by the time they supposedly hit their prime that it's important to manage the time on the court.

  • @jarlbalgruuf7701
    @jarlbalgruuf7701 26 днів тому +2

    Bron fans still crying about that 2013 Dpoy

  • @marcosmartinez8088
    @marcosmartinez8088 Місяць тому +2

    Jonny, what about Tony Allen and Zach Randolph contribution in 2012?? Of course a center is way more impactful on the defense in certain point than any other position. And Gasol was truly underrated as a defender back in 2012, even if he won the DPOY. But man, the toughness of Tony Allen in the perimeter and Zach Randolph fighting for the rebounds really helped Gasol's defense to shine. I didnt watch all of the Memphis games back in the day, but i just like to point out how Memphis defense was more than just Gasol, in my point of view. I'm glad the NBA recognized Gasol as the defender he was and they didnt did him dirty like they did to Duncan, but Gasol wasnt a Gobert type of carrying on defense either.

  • @alejanoelallen1952
    @alejanoelallen1952 Місяць тому +3

    🏀

  • @vulture27fm
    @vulture27fm Місяць тому +1

    2018 Gobert - "This DPOY selection was the most egregious I have ever seen."
    Oh man, just wait a few days and we'll have 2024 Gobert blowing that one out of the water.

    • @yoitsSmitty2004
      @yoitsSmitty2004 Місяць тому

      I don’t even think he deserved the other 2💀 2018 yes but the other 2 no. 2021 should’ve been Jrue or Ben and 2019 should’ve been Giannis and 2020 should’ve been AD while 2022 should’ve gone to Mikal 100% and last year should’ve been Brook Lopez Or Mobley but Brook definitely should’ve gotten it

    • @NewwxNeww
      @NewwxNeww Місяць тому +2

      Except Rudy actually deserves this one lol. So not really

    • @yoitsSmitty2004
      @yoitsSmitty2004 Місяць тому +2

      @@NewwxNeww yes this is one the one that I think he actually deserved aside from 18

    • @Luso00_
      @Luso00_ День тому

      I knew Wemby would lose. All the winners have come from players whose team made the playoffs.

  • @genmac2843
    @genmac2843 25 днів тому +1

    Davis should have been a 2x dpoy by now. He was also got robbed of the award(when giannis won it).

  • @zachculberson4457
    @zachculberson4457 24 дні тому +1

    Dwight was an animal.

  • @chachabrg
    @chachabrg 22 дні тому

    who is your 2024 DPOY ? Mine is Wemby but its really close

  • @13araku
    @13araku 21 день тому

    at this point... lets just look at totals instead of averages. Averages just hide the fact that some players dont play much.

  • @theharknetts
    @theharknetts 28 днів тому

    Do you plan to make a full GOAT comparison between MJ and LBJ?

  • @soulofamerica
    @soulofamerica Місяць тому +1

    DPOY is overly biased to Centers & PFs. I value a Defender higher for earning 5+ First Team All-Defense by Position than a guy who wins 1 DPOY and only 2 First Team All-Defense honors. I also value guys who play 70 games (85% of 82) because they played through sprains & minor injuries.
    I prefer the same 70-game threshold for Season MVP.

  • @georgekamaris-sakellariou5811
    @georgekamaris-sakellariou5811 29 днів тому

    do it for the 20s

  • @spookysquirtle
    @spookysquirtle Місяць тому

    im sad tony allen didnt get one on your list

  • @thundercracker07
    @thundercracker07 24 дні тому +1

    discredit marcus smart all you want, but in a historically weak DPOY race why not give it to a guy on one of the best statistical defense of all time?

  • @ATroubledGreensLibrary
    @ATroubledGreensLibrary Місяць тому +2

    🎉❤

  • @Ali-yp3nb
    @Ali-yp3nb 25 днів тому

    By this rule Victor Wetbanana should win DPOY this year

  • @sethjackson2266
    @sethjackson2266 14 днів тому

    Dwight howard would have been such a better player if he focused on posession versus sending blocks out of the court.....half his blocks he could have easily grabbed....but nope..other teams ball everytime because it looks cool

  • @shanewell12
    @shanewell12 28 днів тому

    Really hard to give your point for mark and the media but that also means you are dismissing 25 coach’s in the nba and think they are wrong in thinking who the best defender was and that you know better when we both know that’s not the case

  • @YuriyKhasidov-ee8zd
    @YuriyKhasidov-ee8zd Місяць тому +3

    You got much better at ranking defensive player award winners. However you Didn’t follow this formula in your earlier videos of who should have been defensive players of the 1990’s. Please redo that video with using advanced stats!

  • @Parleyposadajr2248
    @Parleyposadajr2248 19 днів тому

    serge ibaka snubbed

  • @FrokuBabayy
    @FrokuBabayy Місяць тому +4

    I love how the basis for Jonny DPOY selections were based upon team / individual impact being an anchor & yet Kevin Garnett (#1 DBPM #1 Def. rtg #1 - #5 DWS) doesnt constitute a 2012 DPOY😂
    It doesnt stop

  • @Jutrzen
    @Jutrzen Місяць тому

    A decade is year 1 to 10.

  • @Uglyduckling-1
    @Uglyduckling-1 Місяць тому

    I feel like jrue should have one

  • @leroigenkins4217
    @leroigenkins4217 22 дні тому

    there is no way robert won all that

  • @michaelcoffey4953
    @michaelcoffey4953 Місяць тому

    As long as "sports writers" are making these decisions this and others, they will never be legitimate.

  • @johnjavier36866
    @johnjavier36866 28 днів тому

    Wemby should win DPOY this year

  • @andrewmays8990
    @andrewmays8990 Місяць тому

    Glad you cleared up 2013 but I would like to acknowledge Paul George who led the Lea in defensive win shares that year

  • @thareelhelloagain
    @thareelhelloagain Місяць тому +2

    I love how Andre Drummond led the league in Defensive Win Shares TWICE (2018 with 5.7 and 2019 with 5.9) and had 1.5s 1.6b in 2018, 1.7s 1.7b in 2019, and his name wasn't even mentioned ONCE in this video even as an afterthought. Not only that, but you misattributed the leader of DWS in 2018 to being Anthony Davis (you correct this in the graphic, but you still say it wrong). The disrespect to Andre Drummond historically is insane, especially as a defensive player. He's literally one of only 17 players to ever lead the league in DWS twice or more in their career, and he led Detroit to the 10th best defense in 2018 and the 11th best in 2019, while never having a single teammate exceed 3 defensive win shares themselves, and only one teammate over that two year stretch having more than 2.5 DWS to themselves (Blake Griffin at 2.9 in 2019). Drummond, for all this defensive achievement and advanced (and traditional) statistical dominance, was never even named to so much as a single all defense second team, and he couldnt so much as even get a shoutout in this video, which relies so heavily on DWS, steals, and blocks as metrics of success. Andre Drummond is the only player to lead the league in DWS twice and not make an all defensive team in either season.

    • @thareelhelloagain
      @thareelhelloagain Місяць тому

      In addition to that, in 2018, Rudy Gobert (the actual winner) had 4 other players on his team (Mitchell, Rubio, Ingles, and Favors) that all had between 3.5-3.8 DWS each, meaning that Gobert's 3.9 BARELY led his own team. His 4th best defensive trammate, at 3.5, had 1.1 more DWS than Drummond's BEST defensive teammate, Stanley Johnson, at 2.4.
      Now for Davis (your winner). In 2018, while not receiving as much help as Gobert, Davis had two teammates averaging at least .5 more DWS than Drummond's best help in Johnson (Davis had Cousins giving him 3.2 and Holiday giving him 2.9). And even with all that way better help on defense, Davis was only able to get the Pelicans to the 14th best defense, whereas Drummond, with not a single other defender giving him even close to 3 DWS, led the league with 5.7 and dragged his team to the 10th best defense in the league.

    • @tiktokexposed898
      @tiktokexposed898 Місяць тому

      Andrea Drummond has never been great on defense. DWS doesn't mean much. I don't think Johnny has any understanding of advanced analytics which is why he uses DWS, blocks and steals

    • @thareelhelloagain
      @thareelhelloagain Місяць тому +2

      You also once again misattribute the DWS lead to Gobert in 2019. Drummond led the league with 5.9, Gobert had 5.7.
      Gobert had 0.6s and 2.6b, good for 3.2 stocks.
      Drummond had 1.7s and 1.7b, good for 3.4 stocks.
      In both of these last metrics, Drummond definitely takes a slight edge, and now let's look at their help again.
      In 2019 as I mentioned, Drummond had no teammates over 3 DWS and only one (Griffin at 2.9) over 2.
      In 2019, Gobert once again had four teammates (Mitchell, Ingles, Favors, and Crowder) over 3 DWS, and two more (Rubio and O'Neale) contributing over 2 each. This means that Gobert's 6th best defensive teammate (over 2) was contributing more to their defense than Drummond's 2nd best (under 2) was comtributing to his. And yet with all that lack of help, he was still able to drag Detroit to the 11th best defense.
      You didn't even mention his name in the video, and you went so far as to literally misattribute both of his years leading the league in DWS to other players entirely.
      Honestly, shame on you for this total erasure of a player's career and lack of respect for everything Andre Drummond has accomplished on defense.

    • @thareelhelloagain
      @thareelhelloagain Місяць тому +2

      ​@@tiktokexposed898 How does a not great defensive player lead their team to a top 12 defense 4 years straight, with basically no help?

    • @thareelhelloagain
      @thareelhelloagain Місяць тому

      ​@@tiktokexposed898 Way to just ignore everything i wrote and not even mention how he was leading his team to a better defensive rating (10th and 11th for Dummond in 2018 and 2019 vs 14th and 20th for Davis) than Davis each year that Davis was supposedly such a monster, even though Drummond didn't have any teammates even close to the defensive caliber of a Jrue Holiday. Detroit had a LOT of team defensive success from 2016-19, and Drummond was basically the only reason that that happened.

  • @FruitMonger360
    @FruitMonger360 Місяць тому +8

    Wemby should win it this year. Prove me wrong

    • @quantum7495
      @quantum7495 Місяць тому +3

      Can’t prove someone wrong who won’t watch the games

  • @NassefSultan
    @NassefSultan 29 днів тому

    Johnny arnett: "what if every defender wins dpoy regardless of his team record"
    Johnny arnett also: "gasol wins the dpoy because his team is much better defensively "

  • @justtimes9257
    @justtimes9257 Місяць тому +2

    you are wilding LeBron is the one back to back defensive players of the year and I am a fan of the Gritton grind grizzlies, but Tony Allen should’ve got defensive player of the year overall in my opinion
    kawhi leonard should have won 3 straight defensive player of the year
    i agree AD was the dpoy in 2017-18

  • @kennethanderson9623
    @kennethanderson9623 17 днів тому

    It's satisfying to know that LeBron James SHOULD HAVE WON Defensive Player Of The Year at least once!

  • @sw7ng7
    @sw7ng7 Місяць тому

    Wemby should win it!

  • @sonikmajor
    @sonikmajor 21 день тому

    Noah should have won over Marc Gasol

  • @idiverse3457
    @idiverse3457 Місяць тому

    2013 Lebron should have definitely won the award.If not Tony Allen, but not Marc.Plus it doesn't make any sense that you would take Tyson Chandler defensive player award away And then right after that use the same reasons to justify giving Marc the award. when even that season tyson was better than Marc defensively. He helped the knicks when 54 games that year

  • @ultraego1892
    @ultraego1892 20 днів тому +2

    lechock doesn't deserve any dpoy when he can't even stay in front of anyone while only watching them. he's been doing that his whole career to get free rebounds.

  • @samuelramirez1541
    @samuelramirez1541 28 днів тому

    cener

  • @cypher787
    @cypher787 Місяць тому

    Always kinda bums me out how.lebron basically gave up on playing defense by like 2017ish I know sometimes you gotta conserve energy for offense but damn.man
    TRY!

  • @MikeTheNBAGuy
    @MikeTheNBAGuy Місяць тому +2

    Gobert shouldnt have won in 2018, but the most egregious DPOY is still Marcus Smart from 2022, when he wasnt even the best defender on his own team

    • @Bigedub101
      @Bigedub101 Місяць тому +2

      Yea they completely shocked me with that vote

  • @PetouKan
    @PetouKan Місяць тому

    Wemby should have won dpoy over Gobert in 2018 from kindergarten.

  • @dimitriclarke4296
    @dimitriclarke4296 28 днів тому +1

    Lebron on drugs

  • @markjackson6431
    @markjackson6431 Місяць тому

    if the IBM Award was given to the best statistical impactful player

  • @gotwobag7876
    @gotwobag7876 Місяць тому

    👋👋🏀🏀

  • @michael-paulware7330
    @michael-paulware7330 Місяць тому

    So does Victor Wembanyama deserve the award this year.?

  • @WolverineIncognito
    @WolverineIncognito 22 дні тому

    Interesting that you gave it to Lebron in 2012 when Lebron thinks he shoulda won it in 2013.

  • @sethjackson2266
    @sethjackson2266 14 днів тому

    Wemby will win many...but should not win any year hos team misses the playoffs...including this year..they are like last

  • @jdsilvestri
    @jdsilvestri 27 днів тому

    No way on the Gasol one lol it was absurd. The dude literally made 1 All-Defense team his entire career and that was the year he was given DPOY. He wasn't even the best defender on his own team. Not to mention they had 3 players make All-Defense that year. Couldn't have been an easier role to protect the point when you 1-2 guards are All-Defense players and one of those was 5th in DPOY the same year, and lets be honest, Tony Allen was severely underrated his entire career and is undoubtedly in the convo of best defensive guards to ever play. So to put it bluntly, Gasol wasn't even the best defender on his own team, and that is pretty much undeniable lol. Kobe didn't even have to think to name Tony Allen the best defender he ever played against, but somehow Gasol who never once was All-Defense in his entire career other than 12-13 magically became DPOY? Commmmmannnnn

  • @whyjordan
    @whyjordan Місяць тому

    First

  • @modest-review9350
    @modest-review9350 Місяць тому

    Hey jonny is prime dwade better than prime kobe

  • @hunterwade9030
    @hunterwade9030 Місяць тому

    I just think Tyson was more impactful than LeBron. Tyson had to cover for bad defenders on in the Knicks lineup