What "GLAMOUR" Really Is?
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- What "GLAMOUR" Really Is?
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I just hate Instagram fashion. That's it.
Remember that opera singers or actresses such as Marilyn Monroe ,Sophia Loren and Elizabeth Taylor were NEVER seen has classy women. They were the Kim K of that time. It’s so funny how the western world is so controlled by branding and marketing.
Yes! I agree! At the time, many people looked down on Marilyn and did not respect her.
Most of these women were natural beauties though. Marilyn did have a nose job, but today so much is fake.
Opera singers? Maria Callas was definitely seen as beautiful and glamorous but also classy at the same time.
opera singers pre-20th century perhaps?
@@hr7460 Definitely! Maria was hurt by her association with Onassis since both were married, and women mostly got the blame for any infidelity back then. One of the benefits of the " Golden Age" of Hollywood from the 1930's- late 1950's that there was a great deal of "types" that one could resonate with. While there were less Women of Color, there were gorgeous women like Dolores Del Rio, Yvonne del Carlo, and Dorothy Dandridge, Lena Horne among others. Compared to today where people like to talk about diversity there was far more representative films about women: Bette Davis films that were labeled as " women's films" that men loved to go to as well. Today " chick flicks" are derisively viewed by men and many men are resistant to them.
Many middle class women like my mother were motivated to have their own level of glamour. My mother would never go anywhere without dressing well even if it was to the grocery store. In department stores, one had makeup created personally for women. I remember my mother having individual powers created for her at the Charles of the Ritz counter at Saks Fifth Avenue for my mother. One's hair was always "done", and the apparel was meant to highlight what worked for women.
We have a phrase in the U.S., I don’t know if you have it in Europe, “new money, old money.” The implication is new money shouts, old money whispers. Old money does not need to show off in every day dressing. They care about quality, but not the big logos. Another aspect of adopting style from the rich: I live in Hawaii. Back in the 1800s, when Hawaii had a monarchy, our Princess visited Queen Victoria and received a beautiful, intricately engraved gold bangle from her. Over time, this gold bangle was something all Hawaiian women aspired to have, up until present day. I got mine in the 1980s when gold prices were down. Many women had stacks of them. They cost around $300 to $400 each. Today they are $3000 to $4000 as the price of gold went up. They have become traditional and treasured heirlooms. Both my daughters have them, and one daughter is gifting her daughter one for Christmas.
Yes, we see that old money/new money thing in Europe too. In my country we call that new riches "rich fed up with bread" 😅 A lot of people worries about having a Chanel while they probably have debts, but their prioritiy is to pretend with their new phone/purse/etc.
@@ZurditaDinamita agreed, old and new money is a thing..
What an interesting story about Hawaii tradition :)
The bangle story is so sweet! I have a white gold heart shaped brooch with a great many diamonds in it, which I shall leave to my granddaughter and hopefully she will realise that it is real! I only wear it with quite casual things or earthy wool so it doesn't look so over the top. I may have to invest in some bangles for her too :)
Thank you for this! Most of people confuse glamour with sophistication...
Yes! I imagine sophisticated to be a more classic, clean cut style
I think that 'effortless' is a good word for the opposite of 'glamourous'
My friend likes to spend a lot of effort and time to look trashy
@dreamland i guess what Aly is pointing out how glamorous looks do take time and effort. Even someone looks comfortable in their glamorous look, it did take time and effort. Being effortless doesn't mean it didn't take time, but I think it just took less effort to do. Make of that what you will. But I think with Aly's observation, glamorizing takes a lot, whichever style that is.
@@Susana-yg6hk effortless doesn't always mean trashy
@dreamland ahh it's the dress 😎💖💖
@@audrey9able although the effort is not from the person it benefits, they tend to hire others to do the work
Interesting topic! I think that nowadays Glamour often goes hand in hand with cheap and tacky, even if the look itself is expensive. Casual is more chic. Maybe in the last year or so the "old money" style has risen in popularity amongst teenagers, guess that there is a touch of glamour to it. But in general, excess has become very popular. First it was a ton of makeup palettes, now it's a ton of skincare and a new wardrobe each season, excess plastic surgery, a lavish lifestyle, money, cars, trips. Now we don't only admire the rich, we are pressured to be rich and dress rich.
I love your rather holistic approach to beauty and style and I'm glad that I found you while I was growing up. From you I heard things like "Round face should be shown, it shouldn't be hidden", "Hooded eyes are beautiful" and I generally started to appreciate my features, body and essence and work with them instead of trying to hide them.
Tacky is the key word here😂 it’s ridiculous how these “celebrities” want to push their awful taste on us🙄
@@di3486 what's even more ridiculous is how so many people еat it up :ddd
@@brooklynsbaby4367 unbelievable!
What’s also interesting from a non western view, glamour look even old Hollywood was always seen as tacky and cheap, like women being exposed always had association with being cheap, tacky or “easy”, maybe even naive/bimbo like
Lovely way to express these ideas..
I like how Aly Art made a historical reference regarding rich courtesans and we continued towards Kim K's tapes and the "escort" glam look. We didn't change one bit 🤣
Content like this fills me with optimism. Here is an understated, intelligent person articulating that elegance and actual glamour still exists and is not what money can buy and what you are extravagant enough to show. The socio-economic and even psychological elements were SO interesting too. So inspired. Thank you X
Excellent, EXCELLENT enology💯
Agree. Well said.
we just went to our financial advisor's christmas party and I had to remind my husband that the people there dressed like they were really rich aren't and the frumpy people were the real wealthy ones. If you have to flash your wealth, you're usually bluffing.
I just said that in other words in another comment, the most well off people my mom had worked for usually dressed up very modestly. The new rich used to be the "show offs".
I had this realization when I worked at a bank....the people with the largest accounts were usually quite dressed down on average days.....whereas the glittery, contoured, Hermes toting crowd was usually half broke
So very true...trying waaayyy to hard...to deceive.
@@lohaye3260 And they are looked down upon for it.
Yup. Really rich, old money people barely flaunt.
I wish we can go back to classic glamour
I'm sure we can bring the trend back
Imo you can, you have to be smart about it tho. If you look up dita von teese interviews she actually touches upon this a lot. I’m a big fan of hers and I’ve learned so much about the old Hollywood glamour that she poses but it’s like a language you have to get familiar with. Especially because it touches on the imagination and mysticism, and creating mystery. I had her book for a while and it took a while for me till it dawned on me that she’s an artist who’s curated her life with everyday ritual discipline in things she likes and associates herself with!
Yep, 'escort' is the right word, we use it here in the UK too. Fascinating topics tabled here - thank you, Aly!
Nice! I was worried ahahahahhaa ))) thank you!
US as well!
@@anaisd.1682 that's probably where it originated haha!
escort means a sex worker in Turkey
@@AlyArt Hey Aly, a quick question. If I open a channel and talk about Kibbe types for the Spanish audience like your videos, can I monetize my content? or its copyrighted to Kibbe?
Bravo! This was such a fantastic video. You touched on some really awesome social-physiological aspect that is linked with the word "Glamour." It's such a normal thing now that I didn't even realize until you pointed out how glittery stuff is cheaper compared to something simple and plain.
I prefer the old Hollywood glamour, a more understated glamour, none of the glitzy stuff. All that glitters is not gold.
Your approach to the topics that are usually the most shallow and superficial (beauty, fashion) makes me think those topics are the actual reflection of society and history. It's so fascinating. Keep it up ❤️👍
To me, women like Lana Del Rey and Dita Von Teese are perfect examples of old Holywood glamour. It's so timeless and I'll never get tired of it
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. I love Lana and always thought Dita Von Teese captured the glamour of another era very well. Personally I love when women (and men) can pull off the old Hollywood style, it's so iconic.
Well, see, back in the day, they'd be am escort lol!
Not lana
Not Lana, she dresses really basic.
Not Lana tho
Those flower crowns are tacky as fuck
Also making things look gold used to mean real gold , now we have fake gilding and cheaper way to make it look shiny with plastic. the reason that table on wayfair is more expensive is perceived value of craftsmanship with real natural materials vs gaudy overproduced items that are plastic coated
Yup
Wow, I didn’t know about the meaning and etymology of glamour-I really like that word now, thank you, Aly!
I think glamour used to be a witch's method to hide or disguise herself in public, so she wouldn't be noticed going about her business doing spells and evil workings.It meant to completely transform the appearance, but they did it with magic.
Remember the movie the CRAFT? They used the glamour spell on their enemies...
"It's funny how unglamourous I look today with this denim shirt talking about glamour" 🤣
I love the idea of mixing and matching once we know the history and see the comparisons. Thank you for another awesome video!! ❤
"Escort" style is not only the right word, it's actually the perfect word for this style that I never even considered using. I've always been grateful the style never became popular in my part of the United States. The beauty standard here is very natural.
which part is that?
um, hello?1 Kim K and insta/influencer style? Arguably this style and its popularity originated in USA!
edit: just saw you said 'your' part of USA.
I think it not escort style it is more glamrock style... I mean they were inspired by burlesque but the escort style sounds bad...
@@instagramsci9615 But glamrock were a thing before the 2000s and has nothing to do with big lips/hips and very remarkable curves. I couldn't call "glamrock" to nothing with a Kardashian inspo.
@@ZurditaDinamita I thought that we are talking about "glam". I dont think that plastic surgeries are defintion of being glam. It is, imo just different version of body modification
I'm such a nerd and you sharing the "why" was very interesting!!!! I am interested in future content along these lines - I like being an informed consumer
This was one of my favorite videos of all time, not even kidding. Glamour is really like a spell that we have fallen into, but this realization allows us to walk within the dream and play with it knowing it is just for fun and not real. Bravo! Thank you for the insight you put out into the world ❤️
It is tantamount to a Masters Presentation.
glamour is people who have it, but couldn’t have it before!!
I love that you're wearing denim while taking about glamour. It's a subtle thing, but makes it clear where you stand.
This is something I have struggled with after getting typed as a soft dramatic and the "diva chic" style. It immediately makes me think of the Kardashians and feels fake and trashy to me. Working on finding my own version of everyday casual glamour that is separate from those images.
Hello Aly, you said you're not Soft Gamine anymore in other videos, would you make a video about it?
I’m not a big fan of Gwenyth Paltrow, but she and other goopy, Whole Foods-y women like her are who I think of when I think of a very rich woman. Linen, raw wood, uncut crystals, are all an expensive commodity, and are all very opposite of the “glam” aesthetic. She’s rich enough that she doesn’t have to show off anymore. It’s in cycles, but natural, rough hewn things are status symbols now that everything can be mass produced and perfect and shiny. The “glam” aesthetic can sometimes seen as very cheap and trying too hard. Don’t get me wrong, the natural aesthetic can look cheap too (so many “modern farmhouse” houses gone wrong lol) but there’s a reason why the kardashian/jenner aesthetic has changed so much in recent years to be less overtly over the top.
My jeweler just called to tell me that they have found me some unheated facetted citrines to make into earrings, now I feel a little bit 'Goopy' :)
Kardashians look so cheap to me
Yeah like knives out, and beef, there are two raw linen rich Whole Foods women who are such an accurate depictions of the women that exist in the world.
Very well said. That’s why I started buying more natural fabrics and minimalist shapes because it is more accessible to me while being elegant looking. I took note of that version of “rich” and found that I could afford it. You have to be creative and open minded. Depop and thrifting is a great resource.
Aly, your videos are so educative!!! I feel like I'm sitting in university benches listening to the most interesting lectures!
This video was a little touchy in some places so I’m sure you’ll get some negativity, but I think you did great. This was a fun walk through history and how the word and concept has evolved through time. Thank you for all your hard work 😊
Love the Dita examples for modern glamor!
I really liked the video! You made good points from perspective I wouldn't think of. Gotta say, I'm a soft dramatic. the glamorous look is the only way for me with touch of nature. Living in Northern Europe where everything is very casual and unisex I feel it's hard for me to find anything here. And if it's sold as a *glamorous* it's usually pretty tacky
this was the most interesting video topic I've seen in a while. I enjoyed how well you connected the definition of glamour and simple in different areas of our life. Definitely we live in a society of excess.
This is such a well thought out discussion! I never really correlated the concept of the traditional courtesan with the modern glamour plastic surgery driven culture that we live in today! I find the escort style to be a very toxic interpretation of the feminine. Thank you for such an intellectual way of looking at modern beauty standards!
Well put. I agree with you. Women whose image is so clearly packaged purely for the consumption of men is not empowered femininity to me. It’s still a way of serving and submitting to the patriarchy.
@@SaintOrCinema i know what you mean, but to me, at the end of the day and since we live in an era where we can dissect/put a line between what is and isn't, this escort/bimbo glam look is definitely just for fun. I've put it on sometimes but uh.....I certainly don't have "tapes" and I don't think women who look like that actually do it. Even if they do, they certainly deserve respect.
You look really pretty Aly with this lipstick color and the nails color, it really adds a little something.
I try to stay away from Glamour as far as i can ! Its cheap, tacky and it is a huge label that says “im not enough so ill just fake-sparkle instead”
Interesting how it's different for all of us. 'Glamour' and 'expensive' to me would be a floor length black silk velvet A- line skirt with a cream tailored satin blouse and very simple jewelry with single large stones. :)
Really interesting Aly, you have a really deep mind, not just another pretty face! Would like you to cover Old Money looks.
You're such a fabulous natural teacher.
Another excellent video!! I always look forward to your videos. Before I found your channel I had hired a few different personal stylist services and I was always disappointed with the styles and outfits that they came up with because it didn’t fit the look that I was going for. I didn’t even have to try on the clothes to tell that I wouldn’t like wearing them.
I am so glad that I found your channel. Your videos have taught me so much. I know now that I am the romantic body type. I know what clothes will look the best on me. Shopping is so much easier for me and I am buying clothes that I love and look good in. I get so many compliments. It’s so easy for me to shop online and pick out and put together outfits that I love. Thank you so much for creating all of these excellent informative videos. I am also a member of your Patreon. I want to support you and your content because it has helped me so much. ❤️😊
Thank you so much 😊🙏🏻
@@AlyArt You’re welcome. 😊❤️
Such an interesting video Aly. Very well thought out. I didn’t know the origins of the word but what you explained makes sense. I’ve always associated things like showing a brand on clothing and accessories with cheap and tacky. They usually are worn by people who are not so used to money but when they can afford something they like people to see that they have it. My mother told me to buy a good quality handbag but she would never say buy a Chanel handbag for example. The way people like the Kardashians have used exaggerated body enhancements to “glam up” is interesting now that I think about it. It isn’t attractive in my opinion but they find it makes them feel glamorous maybe. It is a far cry from elegance.
It’s interesting the way things are changing due to awareness of climate change as well. Even things like recycling materials when possible. For example Christmas decorating and gift wrapping and homemade gifts. Also the surge in secondhand clothing to reduce landfill and the trend towards fixing household items instead of disposing of them and buying new.
So fascinating. The main thing I take away is how much emphasis we put on the aesthetic and presentability of women. Like we are objects of beauty, and if we don't all look a certain way we aren't considered beautiful. So odd and sad. I kinda hate where society is at. Even when Marilyn was around she got surgeries, bleached her hair, changed her name, had to conform and play a character at all times. She seemed quite sad, lonely, isolated, depressed in the end. I don't like it
I wonder how the 'glamour' look was precieved back in the day, like for example the early Marilyn Monroe looks are very glamour and we find them very beautiful and classy and respectful today, but just like we can see some tacky-ness and over-the-top-ness in today's glamour, the contemporary society in the 50s might have precieved her fashion the same because they had different standards. Does that make sense? 😅😅
The “glamour” of today is not my cup of tea; however, I think it’s important to live and let live. If someone wants to imitate what they see on IG/TV/UA-cam, it’s their choice. It’s the inside that matters.
The outside is a reflection of the inside. Tacky outside, tacky inside.
@@mia-paris5533 defensive tacky*😂
@@di3486 Not a fan of modern glamour but what does tacky inside even mean?
@@goosebump91 Lack of manners, awful language, excess of arrogance and all in between
@@di3486 class for me is very God manners, sensitivity and empathy towards others, and for that you need inelligence and balance. Self awareness also leads to better taste. I like understated clothes in good quality materials, but it's definitely easy to buy middle priced garments like this in sales if you know your style and your colour palette, and always tone it down a bit, understated style, that will last. At leat as a teenager it was the hippy era and we wore any old thing, imaginative, but glamour looked old fashioned then. I bought many ntique clothes cheap in the 70s and 80s,very beautiful. Too expensive now. Street style is often great fun and influential for younger people.
Love your take on this, really cool to go over the history and evolution of glamour
Love how informative this is.
I ponder these concepts a lot so thank you for relaying this information so organized in this manner.
This was a brilliant dissection with so much truth in one video.
This is very thorough and interesting. Great work Aly!
Great job! You are so educated and knowledgeable. Thank you for sharing
I love that you included the history! Such a great video!
The super wealthy not being "glamorise" is true, I was watching a documentary with the Seagrams heiress sisters and I was so taken back by how regular, like normal everyday women they looked...idk why.
Rich and real wealthy people used to dress up as such to not drive much attention to themselves, seems paradoxical but in most cases it's true.
If I was wealthy, I would prefer to look regular but super beautiful on a day to day basis, but I’d shine for special events for sure, but with sophistication and elegance.
I would love to see you do more videos like this ! Very interesting how you break down this topic with so much information.
Love your channel Aly 💕
Wow! This is an excellent video. Thank you for taking the time to create this. So informative and fun to watch.
Wow! This was so enlightening. So well researched, I really enjoyed learning the roots of glamour.
What an interesting topic! I always love your videos. I appreciate your research and visuals. I learn so much from you.
This video almost felt like a Masterclass, was amazing
This video… explains where a lot of the toxicity in todays society and beauty standards, stems from. It found it cathartic, thank you 🌸
So interesting! I have been following your channel since 3 years ago and I still love it
Wow Aly, that was such a great explanation of glamour style!!! I must say it reminded me my school times when we had to bring some topic to explain for others in the class, but you are real professional in this topic. Love it❤️❤️❤️
Really interesting video including the origin of the word. Love how you took it from the very beginning to now. I can tell you gave this considerable thought. Lovely!
Welcome back. Youve changed my life😊Thank You
Fascinating! Thank you for this well researched and enlightening video.
You'd be such a great teacher. I love how you explain everything so straight to the point but also in a comprehensive way. Perfect! Thank you!
As a historian and lover of cultural commentay, I loved this video!
Aly you are phenomenal. Your videos have so much substance, everything that I think about and more, you put in a well explained video. Congratulations for the mastery.
SOS, Aly is too much pretty with that glasses! 🥺💕
this video is AMAZING!!!!! thank you so so much!! beautiful and really interesting! thanks for the hard work of resourcing! Love it!
You did a great job on this video. Awesome topic and noticeably a lot of research on your part.👌🏻✨
Such a wonderful & educational video! I love the depths you go to to bring us a solid foundation. Thanks Aly! You're a truly gifted teacher 💖💖♥️💕
Great analysis and work!
Outstanding walk through art history focussed on glamour. Really well conceived, researched, presented.
This was spot on acurate thank you , your channel is the most comprehensive of all Kibbe based
This was one of the best UA-cam videos I’ve seen. So incisive and really led me to think about my perception of glamour and how I choose to interpret it in my own style. Thanks!
Hi, that was different but a very interesting Journey! Thanks Aly.
This was really neat seeing the comparison from over the year and across different areas of life.
Aly, that is such an enlightening video, so well researched and amazingly presented! ✨🌹
Great overview! Thank you.
This is a really great video! Very interesting and informative!!
truly a very helpful video
Really interesting video, I hope to see more of this type of video from you! By the way, your setting is so pleasing to look at!
It's funny how "simple living" is so expensive, natural wood furnitures on celebrities homes are crazy expensive. Everything sort of shifted, poor/middle class people can't afford natural materials and the glamour interiors and fashion are deemed tacky. As for fashion, I find the current glamourous styles to be way too sexy, actually over the top, and it doesn't even necessarily means new vs old money.
Beautifully explained
thank you so much for sharing this, I think many people aren't aware of this concept (like me :D)
Another great video! Thank you!
I love this channel. I always learn so much!
Wow, what a great video! You just laid down so mu h knowledge and looked at glamour from so many unexpected angles. Your depth and breadth has blown me away! Bravo!!!! 👏👏👏
I think i will stick to the natural aesthetic on myself and my home. Minimal clean barefoot linen wood undone relaxed comfortable vacation feel
GREAT CONTENT (as always), отличная работа!! 😘
Thank you Aly! Amazing topic
Very well thought out. Kudos!
Thank you for the effort you put in being so educational, well researched and also non judgmental. Love this channel!!
Hi Aly. Yes another great educational video.
Always interesting reviews.
I love this channel, thanks for another great video!
as always, very interesting topic and insights Aly.
As always, great video. Hugs🤗😘
So informative i wish it was longer
EXTREMELY INSIGHTFUL 👏👏👏💜
Such an interesting and cool video, thank you so much 🤗🌻.
Brilliant analysis.
Hey Aly ! I thought you might be interested in Olga's 18 essences, it just builds more on Kibbe types, for eg. I'm a SG and now I'm building an outfit based in Rose Ethereal (the most compatible with SG)
maybe you'll find it as interesting as I did :))))
I'm glad that her Ethereal typology has grown into popularity - greetings from Poland!
I'd love to learn more about these!
@@peacefreedomandwealth she's really talented! Love from India
@@DS-st9bg she is 🙂
I've never heard of Olga. Does she have a UA-cam channel? I would love to check her out.
The word glamour is used as a verb in the television series True Blood. The vampires are able to "glamour" their victims, in short mesmerize them with their beauty.
Yeah. It’s pretty popular in the fantasy genre: “The fae glamour you” or “The fae cast a glamour” depending on which authors you’re reading.
Great video! I think you would enjoy John Berger's ideas on glamour, in which he says that 'the state of being envied is what constitutes glamour.'