The reason Rose's hair is down is shown in a deleted scene. She doesn't just go straight to the back of the boat to jump, she first has a panic attack in her room and takes it down then.
I mean, I'd say it's plausible to most people that it could've fell out when she started running, if they even noticed that detail. I've seen the movie multiple times and never noticed haha
I'm so sorry, I know this is about the video and Rose's suit in Titanic but my tim burton/broadway drenched brain was like "oh yeah Beetlejuice's suit is FABULOUS"
The red gown Rose wears when she tries to commit suicide is actually a real Spanish period gown which was acquired in Barcelona, in a high design antique and vintage clothing called "L'Arca de l'Àvia" -something like "grandma's trunk" in English -. It was arranged to fit Kate Winslet. The shop is actually very proud for having provided the gown for the movie and they have plenty of pictures of Rose with the gown all around the shop! :)
No they made that dress, I think 5 different copies, the costume designer said she was inspired for the jump dress after finding a piece of antique black beading on red silk, she had to recreate that beading design to make that dress
@@guillermolopez6971 Hi Guillermo. If you type "Arca de l'Avia Barcelona Titanic" on google, you'll find lots of articles about it. That's their official webpage: larcabarcelona.com Hope it's helpful!
Another subtle hint to Rose's character was her gradually wearing her corset less the more time she spends with Jack, she was becoming a freer person ❤️
I noticed that too but when you look closely the silhouette of the ships is actually of the Queen Mary and not the Titanic. The Queen Mary actually had 3 funnels but whoever designed the pin added a 4th one to make it look more like the Titanic.
@@Howliee the scene where Jack and Rose go to the baggage hold and climb into the car. They end up sleeping with each other (doing the do) and then when they step out onto the deck laughing, the men on watch notice them then they see an iceberg. That scene I'm pretty sure is in every movie copy, unless its censored in your country.
@@Howliee and the scene where Rose has her panic attack is included in various copies of the movie, I would recommend looking into getting a director's cut or one with deleted scenes included! They leave a lot out that's pretty good!
I feel like they purposely put a bow instead of a dead exotic bird on her hat as a subtle hint to her character. Rose probably would've found the fad cruel and garish
It's worth remembering that her family was losing its fortune and station in life according to the backstory. It's why her mother put so much pressure on her and the engagement to the wealthy man. They NEEDED her to marry wealthy, so I'm sure some fashion choices were less expensive than they could have been.
You actually make a good point which I was upset she didn’t mention. Because of people constantly killing birds for their ensemble, some people began seeing it as barbaric and began protesting it. If rose was a modern thinker for her time, it makes sense she wouldn’t have worn them. 🤷🏼♀️
I agree. And it's so odd to think that most of us didn't know who she was at that time. Titanic truly was the door that opened up her career - Leo as well!
That stripped dress looked so much better on rose with her curves than on the model in the magazine... I can't believe the makers of the movie really suggested she loses weight... she is so unbelievably beautiful!
Jazz Guitar why yes she is gorgeous, but 1912 women’s figures here slender and “boyish.” They didn’t have hips, they were square. Just food for thought.
@@coolturtle6286 .. you do realise that people's figures don't change depending on the fashion trend yes? like even if she loses weight she might still have wide hips cause thats bone structure. It doesnt have anything to do with 1912 trends it has to do with 1990s trends of actresses needing to be stick thin even if it wasnt natural for them.
guif oh yeah I realize that... I’m just pointing out that maybe the directors/producers said she needed to lose weight so she could fit into the 1912 ideal body shape.... Leonardo was very slender like the men of the 1910s... it was probably a comment over historical accuracy for the movie... now yeah the 90s was a stick thin era too, but I think the director/producers just wanted historical accuracy.. and yeah there were women back then that had hips and curves, but when doing a period movie, historical accuracy is important. Especially a HUGE historical event like the Titanic sinking. Just the way this video is nitpicking the clothing there was probably people on the movie set nitpicking every last detail. That’s just my opinion and none of us were there so we can’t have a true answer.
@@coolturtle6286 Wrong, this is incorrect. Her body type is completely the norm for the age, look at the model illustrations, they were the "ideal" and the same as hers. It wasn't until the 1920's that the thin, boyish frame was idealized.
She stated that around that time actresses wore makeup like that, in the first scene they stated that she once was an actress and maybe she was lying about the heart of the ocean because she’s so good at acting ... so technically, the makeup was accurate
I know most are fiction and fantasy but it does bother me when they do this in video games too lol like when I play Skyrim I'm like.. where do they get the makeup in this world 🤣 but like I said it is just fantasy fiction.
In the scene where Rose spits on Cal, she was actually meant to get a hair pin and jab him... but she spat on him instead, so his reaction was fully genuine.
It's not stupid- people thought Jack and Rose were real people. Cameron glossed over the stories of the real people on the Titanic for this insipid romance.
It's accurate on every woman in the film EXCEPT Rose. I just cough it up as Rose being a rebel and perhaps wearing the make up to further aggravate her mother.
People talking about our fashion a 100 years later: “Tank tops, booty shorts, ripped clothes and plastic surgery were considered extremely fashionable-“
If I'm not mistaken on the DVD/Bluray the costume designer said the dinner and the red bow dress were actual vintage pieces and not created for the film because they were short on time. I'd have to double check to be sure.
A shop in Barcelona Spain called something like Grandma's Trunk. L'adria L'avia maybe. I copied to clipboard but it only copied part of a sentence. Might be back with more.
I think It's interesting to note that Rose's suite is white and purple. Purple was the color that suffragettes would use back in those days as a symbol for their movement. It's a nice coincidence since Rose is displayed as a modern and independent woman.
Mentioning that the corset (2:03) was a more confining and restricted form of dress that was losing favor, I wonder if they staged that scene to deliberately highlight the way Rose's mother was trying to keep Rose in their restricted society while Rose was beginning to break free. The way her mother pulls on those strings certainly seems to be like she's reining Rose in.
Gone With the Wind was accurate. Some of the actresses complained about having to wear period undergarments nobody would ever see or know about, but the director insisted because "we'd know they're there."
The presenter hit the nail on the head about Rose’s mother and the corset scene - Jim Cameron stated in the commentary that originally it was supposed to be Rose lacing up her mother (meant to be that Rose is subservient as the ‘child’) but then during filming they flipped it so that Rose is literally being tied into her character’s societal expectations Also - the scene when Rose spits in Cal’s face she was originally supposed to stick him with a hat pin
Please do this with Downton Abbey! It would be so nice to show how the costumes evolved through each season of the show, and to know how accurate they were.
I agree! I was so sad to see the gorgeous outfits in the first season be replaced by the more simple styles. I get that it was called for, but it still bummed me out. I’m not personally a fan of that style. 😅
Actually there was a very big flaw with Rose's evening dress that was not pointed out in this video. It was spotted specifically in the dancing scene with Jack in the 3rd class quarters of the ship. It's been spotted that Rose's dress was fastened in the back with a zipper, which would be incorrect for 1912. Instead of a zipper, that dress would likely have been fastened in the back with buttons.
Or hooks and eyes. So many dresses of this time had complicated closures with up to 100 hooks and eyes requiring assistance of a ladies maid to dress and undress
@deborah DeborahR thank God I'm not the only one who found her low pitched voice annoying. The end of nearly every sentence.... painful... nails on a chalkboard!
A friend of my mother's who ran a vintage clothing shop that dealt with proper old vintage clothes actually sourced some authentic pieces for use in the Titanic.
Accurately mentioned by Raissa; New Zealand's most gorgeous bird, the Huia, was driven into extinction by London's fascination with exotic taxidermied birds on ladies' hats! The Huia was a black/green, nectar-eating bird, with gorgeous orange feathers below each side of its beak... RIP gorgeous Huia :(
It was also early April, and cold out in the middle of the ocean. Even before she was in the ocean, you could see her breath. Those layers would have been really nice.
My grandpa was born in 1904 and actually vaguely remembered the news about the Titanic sinking. He still lived in Poland at that point and not in a big city either it's amazing how these kinds of things can travel so far. He also remembered the Bonnie and Clyde story, I wish I wasn't born in 1992 and would have been able to ask him more questions before he died.
All the costumes were so stunning, but my favorite is still the moss green dress with the red belt that Rose wore the first time she makes eye contact with Jack.
Rose had gorgeous dresses. Ever since this movie came out I am just in awe if this gorgeous fashion. Sometimes I wish we did have these nice dinners to dress up for like this.
@CCRider And to portray them in such a one-dimensional way, too... All the rich passengers bad, all the poor ones good. It annoyed me to no end.. Plus when the sinking started, they couldn't let that be enough action, they had to add gunfighting and stuff. *Groan*
I LOVE the historically-insightful, educational presentation of this video, and it's topic. And wide-brimmed props to Ms. Bretaña for her down-to-earth, professional commentary/tour of fashion history. More videos like this, please!
@@katiekendall5690 - That's a myth. Alcohol makes you FEEL flushed, but it does NOTHING to actually raise your body temperature. That's why so many drunk persons end up dying in the cold - they are not nearly so warm as they think they are.
I love it when historical-based films try to be as accurate as possible, and I saw that right away in "Titanic". One actress (who played Rose's mother) said they even wore corsets (and probably other period-appropriate lingerie). Great video; I'd like to see more of these with Raissa Bretaña. Hatpins are sorta special to me; I remember seeing some my grandmother had. :-)
I wore a hobble skirt once for a cosplay, and let me tell you, they're not kidding when they say it restricts your movement. Whenever I travelled in a group while wearing that costume, I always had to have my best friend leading me by the hand so I didn't get left behind.
@@candeladm I have a picture of my great grandparents playing lawn tennis in the 1880s. She had a dress down to her ankles and he was in a three piece suit. They both wore hats. I don't know ow how they stood it.
gladitsnotme that is a rumor.They did not wash often around 1400-1700, because people were convinced you'll die if you take a bath.It was the whole world, not just europe
Hey my grandmother always carried an umbrella. She said that she would use it to fend off "mashers" as they were called in 1910-1920. She also would loudly call out mashers in movie theaters.
My grandmother was born in Tennessee in 1892. She wore a corset every day of her adult life until her death in 1991. I have a photograph of her with her brother and sister-in-law onboard one of the Lurline Paddle Wheel Steamers on a trip down the Columbia River in Oregon on the day the Titanic sank.
My parents got me the Franklin mint Rose doll when I was a kid because I was obsessed with this movie and I was amazed by not only the dresses but I would have to put on all the undergarments of stockings and bloomers and corsets underneath the dresses. Honestly I still have it and play with it I can’t believe I kept such good care of it.
Marie Antoinette is deliberately anachronistic, so I don't think it would do well. But it would be fun to see the drawings of what they really would have looked like.
What about the “Swim Dress” that Rose wears when the ship is sinking? That and the pink coat she wore over it are my favorite! It’s a beautiful silk chiffon dress with stunning colors and fabrics. It really brought out her youth! 😊
Titanic is my first favorite film and always will be, even presented it in class recreated outfits, role-plays etc. and watched it a million times, It’s perfect the way it is ♥️
Great video. Would have like to have lingered longer on the images, instead of flashing them by so quickly, thought. Will like to see more of the same. Kudos to director James Cameron for taking the time and money to do Titanic right.
How lovely he took such time to make costumes accurate what a pity he didn't take more time to tell some of the myriad interesting stories of the actual passengers on the Titanic instead of the contrived idiocy of Jack and Rose.
@@patriciaknowles9660 They made that movie - It was called A Night to Remember and it was a flop at the box office. There was no way that Twentieth Century Fox and Paramount were going to come together and spend $200 million dollars on telling a similar, boring story like that had proven in the past to be unsuccessful. The challenge for James Cameron was to please the people who loved the ship while also making it a story that people who had never heard of the Titanic could also enjoy. It became the highest grossing film of all time for 13 years and is still number 3 on the list, so he was successful in that. You should go back and watch A Night to Remember though. Sounds like your style. Despite having its flaws it is considered the "most accurate" Titanic film and the one that historians place above all others. I fell asleep to it the first 2 times I tried to watch it but that's me.
Costumes are one of my favorite things in a movie and part of why adore Titanic. When I'm a cruise I still dress every night for dinner. And the amount of luggage I drag along shows it.
In case anyone is wondering, here’s a little info on some of the the accessories; the gloves worn with the suit are STILL in production through the Chester Jefferies company. The shoes unfortunately are no longer being made but they were supplied by Pompei Shoe. The shoes worn with the evening gowns were both Peter Fox shoes
I think it's interesting that she mentioned the idea of actresses and painted ladies as it was a dream of Rose's to be a "moving picture actress". Maybe a deliberate character choice?
People also wore corsets to get the right look in their clothes. It wasn't all about "oppressive" "restrictive" evil corsets. If a modern woman wanted to wear Rose's clothing, she needed to wear the right underpinnings or the clothes wouldn't look right or fit properly. Women below Rose's status still used older corsets & padding to shape their look. Like us today using Spanx panties & full body compression wear to shape our bodies for body tight dresses. It's no different. Women simply wanted to avoid looking frumpy.
I know this is an old comment, but thank you for pointing this out. To me, it's one of the subtler things in the corset scene, that Trudy the maid was obviously lacing Rose more comfortably, which was the norm, before Ruth takes over and tight-laces her. We have this idea that corsets were these dangerous garments when most of the time, they were about as restrictive as the Spanx you mentioned because women predominantly would NOT tight-lace because women as a whole aren't ridiculous enough to cause organ damage or restrict their own breathing just to achieve a certain look. It would be like saying all modern women wear sky-high stilettos, skin-tight jeans that impact circulation, and other sorts of pain-inducing fashion when in reality, some do and most don't.
I never saw the movie, but my friend did. She went on and on about the costumes, and told me that the make-up was wrong for the period. She was always good at spotting things like that! I love Rose's suit and hat the best!
I've seen natural makeup on other period dramas, and it looks so much better. Pride & Prejudice with Colin Firth, for instance. The makeup in Titanic is just awful, they should have gone with a more natural look.
That makeup was a disgrace - like a fly in the ointment. Historical accuracy was such a priority in all other respects and then they went and ruined it with that garish makeup. Such a shame, really.
I love how you gave reasoning for why the make-up was inaccurate in a way that did not shame the movie. Sometimes you gotta sacrifice a little bit of accuracy to entice your audience and I believe that is okay!
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The reason Rose's hair is down is shown in a deleted scene. She doesn't just go straight to the back of the boat to jump, she first has a panic attack in her room and takes it down then.
I mean, I'd say it's plausible to most people that it could've fell out when she started running, if they even noticed that detail. I've seen the movie multiple times and never noticed haha
As much as your average girl rearranges her hair on any given day, hair change could easily be noticed but not remarked.
Do you have a link to the deleted scene?
@Tanner James Thks for the link
@Tanner James thanks
That white/black striped suit is so beautiful
I'm so sorry, I know this is about the video and Rose's suit in Titanic but my tim burton/broadway drenched brain was like "oh yeah Beetlejuice's suit is FABULOUS"
It's so timeless too
Ciel I can’t ever unsee that. 😂
@@SunflowerSpotlight I'm so sorry
That's my favorite outfit
Let's be honest, everyone wants a suit like rose got in the beginning
no u and the figure...that I used to have long ago....
@@estelamartinez9185 ._.
Ikr
No, I hate that suit... said no one ever.
And that red dress. 😍
The red gown Rose wears when she tries to commit suicide is actually a real Spanish period gown which was acquired in Barcelona, in a high design antique and vintage clothing called "L'Arca de l'Àvia" -something like "grandma's trunk" in English -. It was arranged to fit Kate Winslet. The shop is actually very proud for having provided the gown for the movie and they have plenty of pictures of Rose with the gown all around the shop! :)
Adrià Freijo nice info. Where can I get more information about this?
No they made that dress, I think 5 different copies, the costume designer said she was inspired for the jump dress after finding a piece of antique black beading on red silk, she had to recreate that beading design to make that dress
@@guillermolopez6971 Hi Guillermo. If you type "Arca de l'Avia Barcelona Titanic" on google, you'll find lots of articles about it. That's their official webpage: larcabarcelona.com
Hope it's helpful!
It’s so pretty 🗿
@@myliamag.6512 there are 2 slightly different versions of this dress. One might be a copy.
Another subtle hint to Rose's character was her gradually wearing her corset less the more time she spends with Jack, she was becoming a freer person ❤️
Ohh nice observation. Thank you for pointing it out! 🙂
Freer isn’t really the right term. Corsets were for fashion, not a symbol of restriction. Maybe _relaxed_ is a little more appropriate.
Or maybe she just wanted to make it easier for him to take those clothes off 😈
Oh shut up
Exactly - the dress she wears after her portrait was one she could don by herself.
The scene where Rose got out of the car was the moment 10 year old me fell in love with fashion. 😍😍😍
☺☺☺
Same! My 10 year old self was entranced by her look in that scene *___*
That hat flip revealing her face, Iconic !
O...m...gosh
Me freaking too!!
I didn’t realize historical fashion could be so sharp and edgy. Even then Rose was hinting her independent & enterprising nature.
I just realized the fashion historian was wearing a Titanic pin. Nice touch
I noticed that too but when you look closely the silhouette of the ships is actually of the Queen Mary and not the Titanic. The Queen Mary actually had 3 funnels but whoever designed the pin added a 4th one to make it look more like the Titanic.
@@saabiryousuf594 maybe its the lusitania
@@ehrenhablero4948 hey yes! It does look like Lusitania. It was another beautiful ship.
She wore the windmill of the moulin rouge in her assessment of that film too
with the heart of the ocean right below. It's lovely
The reason her hair was down in the "suicidal scene" was because she took it down during her breakdown in her room
And in during the sinking it was loose because she hadn´t time to put it up propperly after sleeping with Jack. The consistency is so good!
Was that maybe a deleted scene? I don’t remember that happening. Just curious 😊
@@Howliee the scene where Jack and Rose go to the baggage hold and climb into the car. They end up sleeping with each other (doing the do) and then when they step out onto the deck laughing, the men on watch notice them then they see an iceberg. That scene I'm pretty sure is in every movie copy, unless its censored in your country.
@@Howliee and the scene where Rose has her panic attack is included in various copies of the movie, I would recommend looking into getting a director's cut or one with deleted scenes included! They leave a lot out that's pretty good!
Francesca Bennet There was no birth control then...I’m amazed that she didn’t get pregnant.
I feel like they purposely put a bow instead of a dead exotic bird on her hat as a subtle hint to her character. Rose probably would've found the fad cruel and garish
It's worth remembering that her family was losing its fortune and station in life according to the backstory. It's why her mother put so much pressure on her and the engagement to the wealthy man. They NEEDED her to marry wealthy, so I'm sure some fashion choices were less expensive than they could have been.
You actually make a good point which I was upset she didn’t mention. Because of people constantly killing birds for their ensemble, some people began seeing it as barbaric and began protesting it. If rose was a modern thinker for her time, it makes sense she wouldn’t have worn them. 🤷🏼♀️
@@RTCPhotoWork Well wasn't everything they had onboard bought by Cal including the Picassos.... [I know they're not real persons] but yeah
That’s exactly what I thought
Plus there was activists at the time that were against this practise and wore flowers and I think bows instead
Kate Winslet was the PERFECT choice for this movie.
Britney Spears would have been better.
Sorry i dont agree , I always thought that she looked to big compared to the male lead , or was he just to skinny and frail for her ?
was she
@@hectorbrown656 Leos just thin
I agree. And it's so odd to think that most of us didn't know who she was at that time. Titanic truly was the door that opened up her career - Leo as well!
I can not get over this movie Titanic OMG..... The fashion is just so good
I remember watching the movie, I cried at the end.
@@ThickestSkull03 who did not...honestly...😢
I couldn’t agree more! The fashion in this movie is incredible
Frank Lenolds I agree, I love all her costumes in the movie, a well deserved Oscar for the designer that year🇮🇪😃
@@depressedasalways5669 I didn't.
“So this is entirely accurate, but... let’s add a bird” 😂
Not JUST a bird...a stuffed DEAD bird!
@@randeman
Okay so a bird.
i was ur 400th like
She got the Oscar for a reason :)
Iris the dresses
@@FlashRyu Yes The costume designer Got An Oscar for it
she did
Iris
A lot of oscars were not earned: Little Women (the most recent one) has TERRIBLE historical accuracy, but for some reason it got the oscar.
What does that have to do with the accuracy of the costumes the costume designers chose
That stripped dress looked so much better on rose with her curves than on the model in the magazine... I can't believe the makers of the movie really suggested she loses weight... she is so unbelievably beautiful!
Jazz Guitar why yes she is gorgeous, but 1912 women’s figures here slender and “boyish.” They didn’t have hips, they were square. Just food for thought.
@@coolturtle6286 .. you do realise that people's figures don't change depending on the fashion trend yes? like even if she loses weight she might still have wide hips cause thats bone structure. It doesnt have anything to do with 1912 trends it has to do with 1990s trends of actresses needing to be stick thin even if it wasnt natural for them.
guif oh yeah I realize that... I’m just pointing out that maybe the directors/producers said she needed to lose weight so she could fit into the 1912 ideal body shape.... Leonardo was very slender like the men of the 1910s... it was probably a comment over historical accuracy for the movie... now yeah the 90s was a stick thin era too, but I think the director/producers just wanted historical accuracy.. and yeah there were women back then that had hips and curves, but when doing a period movie, historical accuracy is important. Especially a HUGE historical event like the Titanic sinking. Just the way this video is nitpicking the clothing there was probably people on the movie set nitpicking every last detail. That’s just my opinion and none of us were there so we can’t have a true answer.
@@coolturtle6286 Wrong, this is incorrect. Her body type is completely the norm for the age, look at the model illustrations, they were the "ideal" and the same as hers. It wasn't until the 1920's that the thin, boyish frame was idealized.
Nikki G exactly! ✂️🇧🇷
The loose, flowing dress she wore during the sinking with the coat was also stunning. My favorite one.
Tbh I would rather watch a movie with a historically accurate makeup than crowd pleasing makeup.
Same.
I know! And Kate winslet is so naturally pretty she didn’t even need the makeup
Sis yeah
She stated that around that time actresses wore makeup like that, in the first scene they stated that she once was an actress and maybe she was lying about the heart of the ocean because she’s so good at acting ... so technically, the makeup was accurate
I know most are fiction and fantasy but it does bother me when they do this in video games too lol like when I play Skyrim I'm like.. where do they get the makeup in this world 🤣 but like I said it is just fantasy fiction.
In the scene where Rose spits on Cal, she was actually meant to get a hair pin and jab him... but she spat on him instead, so his reaction was fully genuine.
The spiting was a better fit, since Jack had showed her how to “spit like a man” the day before.
@@hollandfray4521 thats true!
Kate Winslet actually suggested to spit on him instead of using the hairpin :)
Can we talk about how she had to remind us Titanic was based on a historical event
There are probably people who don't know the event was real. Also some people may not have watched the film yet like me.
There are probably 2000's kids that doesn't know the MOVIE exist..
Seriously though - if they didn’t know then they must have learned when “Supernatural “ did that one episode ... right?
@@seaturtlepoppy7679 you have a point! 😂
It's not stupid- people thought Jack and Rose were real people. Cameron glossed over the stories of the real people on the Titanic for this insipid romance.
I agree that the makeup wasn’t historically accurate. The costumes though are stunning . Beautifully tailored with an amazing sense of details.
It's accurate on every woman in the film EXCEPT Rose. I just cough it up as Rose being a rebel and perhaps wearing the make up to further aggravate her mother.
@@ciaraoh9102 Brilliant observation!
People talking about our fashion a 100 years later: “Tank tops, booty shorts, ripped clothes and plastic surgery were considered extremely fashionable-“
@kamali saravanan - Sad, isn't it?
Rip clothing ! Haha
Ikr..🥺
@Aly Jones future: wanna see our trend??
Past: my, our grandkids are so poor...
yall are so annoying
Confession: I once cried because I thought Rose's dress was so beautiful
I respect that
Serious? That’s really stupid
She is just passionate,like how u would cry because of romance in the Titanic. Some old men probably will say that's stupid to cry over.
@@ElizabethGlasby no u
Girl, me toooo lol. So beautiful it makes you cry.
have you ever thought that almost in 100 years people will be talking about our fashion
Edit: omg i've never gotten this many likes ❤️
They're going to be horrified.
...And here we have the UA-camr merch hoodies and t-shirts...
They're gonna be appalled
Yes as a global joke.
Isabela Villarreal poor them lol
Please do a Fashion Fact Check on Moulin Rouge next
@Kayla Smith I really loved that movie after I watched it last January
Oooh, good suggestion!
YESS
YEEEEEEES
Would love to see thay as well
If I'm not mistaken on the DVD/Bluray the costume designer said the dinner and the red bow dress were actual vintage pieces and not created for the film because they were short on time. I'd have to double check to be sure.
@Jessica Leese - How did your research on that go? Were they actual antique pieces?
@@MossyMozart The red dress was
Someone in the comments further up said it was a Greek or spanish shop that provided the red gown. ...Goes to look it up, hope I make it back.
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A shop in Barcelona Spain called something like Grandma's Trunk. L'adria L'avia maybe. I copied to clipboard but it only copied part of a sentence. Might be back with more.
I think It's interesting to note that Rose's suite is white and purple. Purple was the color that suffragettes would use back in those days as a symbol for their movement. It's a nice coincidence since Rose is displayed as a modern and independent woman.
Mentioning that the corset (2:03) was a more confining and restricted form of dress that was losing favor, I wonder if they staged that scene to deliberately highlight the way Rose's mother was trying to keep Rose in their restricted society while Rose was beginning to break free. The way her mother pulls on those strings certainly seems to be like she's reining Rose in.
Is it me or do ALL fashion historians in these videos look like they're adopting the whole 1940s/50s pin up look? Just an observation...
@H.N Meah - Bernadette Banner sticks with the Edwardian era.
It is a elegant look, quite beautiful.
Shanaya Zaveri agreed 😍
The most beautiful style of all time
This person looks like she's doing the 1930-40's
Please do Downton Abbey, Pride and Prejudice (2005), or Gone with the Wind!!
Agreed!
Yes please
Donttt playyy with mee Pride andPrejydice is the loml
Gone With the Wind was accurate. Some of the actresses complained about having to wear period undergarments nobody would ever see or know about, but the director insisted because "we'd know they're there."
Yes please! :D
The presenter hit the nail on the head about Rose’s mother and the corset scene - Jim Cameron stated in the commentary that originally it was supposed to be Rose lacing up her mother (meant to be that Rose is subservient as the ‘child’) but then during filming they flipped it so that Rose is literally being tied into her character’s societal expectations
Also - the scene when Rose spits in Cal’s face she was originally supposed to stick him with a hat pin
Please do this with Downton Abbey! It would be so nice to show how the costumes evolved through each season of the show, and to know how accurate they were.
I agree! I was so sad to see the gorgeous outfits in the first season be replaced by the more simple styles. I get that it was called for, but it still bummed me out. I’m not personally a fan of that style. 😅
I visited the Real Downton Abbey and seen some of the clothes worn on the set, exquisite is not the word they were so beautiful
Actually there was a very big flaw with Rose's evening dress that was not pointed out in this video. It was spotted specifically in the dancing scene with Jack in the 3rd class quarters of the ship. It's been spotted that Rose's dress was fastened in the back with a zipper, which would be incorrect for 1912. Instead of a zipper, that dress would likely have been fastened in the back with buttons.
Or hooks and eyes. So many dresses of this time had complicated closures with up to 100 hooks and eyes requiring assistance of a ladies maid to dress and undress
She does such a good job explaining everything. Thumbs up!
@deborah DeborahR - I didn't find Raissa Bretaña to be that way at all.
@deborah DeborahR thank God I'm not the only one who found her low pitched voice annoying. The end of nearly every sentence.... painful... nails on a chalkboard!
deborah DeborahR I bet ur voice is worse
deborah DeborahR you’re called annoying. Also, do u even know what an octave is? A couple of octaves higher?! That’s literally impossible.
A friend of my mother's who ran a vintage clothing shop that dealt with proper old vintage clothes actually sourced some authentic pieces for use in the Titanic.
Accurately mentioned by Raissa; New Zealand's most gorgeous bird, the Huia, was driven into extinction by London's fascination with exotic taxidermied birds on ladies' hats! The Huia was a black/green, nectar-eating bird, with gorgeous orange feathers below each side of its beak... RIP gorgeous Huia :(
I love how she’s wearing a titanic themed broach
I'm sweating just hearing about all those layers 😫
They're made of natural fabrics, which is breathable compared to modern fabrics, so don't worry :)
@@gratiaseia I wish I had some breathable frabic rn, my bedroom felt like an oven last night 😂 ah the joys of the summer
It was also early April, and cold out in the middle of the ocean. Even before she was in the ocean, you could see her breath. Those layers would have been really nice.
I'm sweating because it's summer!
Imagine women within the menopause (flushings) wearing those clothes. 😰
Rose's gowns were so beautiful. I have the porcelain Rose collector's doll with the blue Flying scene gown.
My grandpa was born in 1904 and actually vaguely remembered the news about the Titanic sinking.
He still lived in Poland at that point and not in a big city either it's amazing how these kinds of things can travel so far.
He also remembered the Bonnie and Clyde story, I wish I wasn't born in 1992 and would have been able to ask him more questions before he died.
Omg it’s so hard to believe that the character Rose was said to be 17 in the movie
Not Kate winslet she and Leo both turned 22 on set
Sophia Julian Leo looked young back then but she looked mid to late 20s.
Yeah, she definitely does not look 17.
She was 19 lmao
How did Jack get all of that off of her" during the put your hands on me scene" in that car's tiny backseat?
@judy Holiday - He had help? B^)
Judy Holiday tbh in reality women had crotch less underpants so you wouldn’t have to take or anything just move the skirts up and your good
@@thetillerwiller4696 yep, called panties because there were two! 🤭
All the costumes were so stunning, but my favorite is still the moss green dress with the red belt that Rose wore the first time she makes eye contact with Jack.
Loving this fashion fact check videos! Keep them coming :)
Her boarding suit was one of my favourite outfits of hers. The wide hat and bow, the cream gloves and, her navy tie.❤️
Rose had gorgeous dresses. Ever since this movie came out I am just in awe if this gorgeous fashion. Sometimes I wish we did have these nice dinners to dress up for like this.
The only fashion expert I trust is Karolina Zebrowska, aka, meme mom, thank you. :) I wonder what she thinks! Anyone else with me?
Omg I love her
@@miebjerring1994 I want to her make a similar video to this, not copy them obviously, but similar ideas. :)
@@6thgraderfriends I think she has mentioned wanting to do something like that, can't wait for it!
I mainly watched this so I'll be ready for her response :P
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Love the expert's Titanic pin with the blue heart!! Such a great nod to the film!
I'd buy one
I was about ten when Titanic movie was released, I fell in love with Rose's boarding dress.
In a deleted scene, when rose was in her evening wear, she pulls out her hair because she’s unhappy with her life (that’s why her hair I’d different)
Titanic isn't my favorite movie but oh my God, the costumes were breathtaking.
@CCRider And to portray them in such a one-dimensional way, too... All the rich passengers bad, all the poor ones good. It annoyed me to no end.. Plus when the sinking started, they couldn't let that be enough action, they had to add gunfighting and stuff. *Groan*
@@monmothma3358 Then watch Titanic documentary here on UA-cam
@CCRider It’s not an insult.
I LOVE the historically-insightful, educational presentation of this video, and it's topic. And wide-brimmed props to Ms. Bretaña for her down-to-earth, professional commentary/tour of fashion history. More videos like this, please!
The strip suit is so iconic! Love this whole fact checks Titanic is my favorite movie ever.
I would love to see her dissect the fashion in Pearl Harbor next!!
@Tiggany Moralez - The film or the historical event?
That red dress..... is EVERYTHING!
Can you talk about Atonement's fashion?
You cannot just forget that green dress.
That Knightley wore on this movie?
@@Richardsonprincess00 yes
Oh, never mind
A person in my Year’s great, great grandpa nearly went on the titanic but forgot because he had drank too much 🍻. Lesson is: Drink beer 👏🏼.
Aleeza Fatima that’s often been my life lesson. He’s a lucky man.
alcohol keeps you warm, that was the reason the chef on titanic survived because he had a flask of brandy with him the whole night while in the water
@@katiekendall5690 alcohol only makes you think your warm, while your body is not. Drunk people have died getting stuck outside and feeling warm
@@katiekendall5690 False. Alcohol only makes you think you're warm when in actuality, you're not.
@@katiekendall5690 - That's a myth. Alcohol makes you FEEL flushed, but it does NOTHING to actually raise your body temperature. That's why so many drunk persons end up dying in the cold - they are not nearly so warm as they think they are.
Can we take a moment and appreciate Raissa’s collection of broches/pins that I just absolutely adore??
I wanna see what Meme Mom thinks of this video
Edit: Oh my God thank you for the likes! This is the most likes I've ever gotten.
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Same but tbh I think this woman is pretty good check out her frozen video
Dream7 it has some mistakes but its ok. they should hire a better artist tho
All praise the meme mom.
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Perhaps that's where she kept her wand when going out
@@isabelladaydream1755 The ever-fashionable vulture!
I love her pin/broach so much. I love how she accessorizes or styles with the fashions of the media she’s analyzing.
She researches fashion history for her regular time travel mission.
I would love for you guys to do Mad Man. I feel like there's so many decades to talk about.
I love it when historical-based films try to be as accurate as possible, and I saw that right away in "Titanic". One actress (who played Rose's mother) said they even wore corsets (and probably other period-appropriate lingerie). Great video; I'd like to see more of these with Raissa Bretaña. Hatpins are sorta special to me; I remember seeing some my grandmother had. :-)
I wore a hobble skirt once for a cosplay, and let me tell you, they're not kidding when they say it restricts your movement. Whenever I travelled in a group while wearing that costume, I always had to have my best friend leading me by the hand so I didn't get left behind.
I can’t imagine having to wear like 4 layers of clothes. I would be drowning in sweat all the time.
Daniel Arcure it was cold the night titanic sank
Daniel Arcure They had different fabrics for each season of the year, so they never suffered at all
@@candeladm
I have a picture of my great grandparents playing lawn tennis in the 1880s. She had a dress down to her ankles and he was in a three piece suit. They both wore hats. I don't know ow how they stood it.
And Europeans didn't wash often either, so PEWWWWWWWW imagine the stank!
gladitsnotme that is a rumor.They did not wash often around 1400-1700, because people were convinced you'll die if you take a bath.It was the whole world, not just europe
I like that "the hat pin peril" frames women who defend themselves as the problem, good job edwardian period, very feminism
Adelaide Abashov but then would it not be sexist to assume women were only defending themselves, there could be a whole hat pin gang/mafia 😂
@@jssfrk161 I think you just gave me an idea for a novel
Wasnt just in self defense. Also in minor accidents, major injuries happened due to hat pins
Adelaide Abashov I’ll preorder it
Hey my grandmother always carried an umbrella. She said that she would use it to fend off "mashers" as they were called in 1910-1920. She also would loudly call out mashers in movie theaters.
That purple hat is my WORLD!
This is one of the best break downs of vintage fashions I’ve seen in a long time. Well done, Glamour.
My grandmother was born in Tennessee in 1892. She wore a corset every day of her adult life until her death in 1991. I have a photograph of her with her brother and sister-in-law onboard one of the Lurline Paddle Wheel Steamers on a trip down the Columbia River in Oregon on the day the Titanic sank.
Wow, so interesting! ☺️
My parents got me the Franklin mint Rose doll when I was a kid because I was obsessed with this movie and I was amazed by not only the dresses but I would have to put on all the undergarments of stockings and bloomers and corsets underneath the dresses. Honestly I still have it and play with it I can’t believe I kept such good care of it.
Thank you for mentioning this, I just looked it up and it’s so beautiful! All the dresses! 😍
Please do a fact check on Marie Antoinette and The Favourite!
Marie Antoinette is deliberately anachronistic, so I don't think it would do well. But it would be fun to see the drawings of what they really would have looked like.
The makeup was so perfect for the film though. To me I didn’t scream 90’s, it spoke elegance. Her face was flawless.
What about the “Swim Dress” that Rose wears when the ship is sinking? That and the pink coat she wore over it are my favorite! It’s a beautiful silk chiffon dress with stunning colors and fabrics. It really brought out her youth! 😊
And I read it was a few sizes bigger on purpose, for the character to look more vulnerable when searching the corridors downstairs shouting for help.
Titanic is my first favorite film and always will be, even presented it in class recreated outfits, role-plays etc. and watched it a million times, It’s perfect the way it is ♥️
I love how Raissa always dresses according to the theme!
I love learning about historical fashion💓
Great video. Would have like to have lingered longer on the images, instead of flashing them by so quickly, thought. Will like to see more of the same. Kudos to director James Cameron for taking the time and money to do Titanic right.
How lovely he took such time to make costumes accurate what a pity he didn't take more time to tell some of the myriad interesting stories of the actual passengers on the Titanic instead of the contrived idiocy of Jack and Rose.
@@patriciaknowles9660 They made that movie - It was called A Night to Remember and it was a flop at the box office. There was no way that Twentieth Century Fox and Paramount were going to come together and spend $200 million dollars on telling a similar, boring story like that had proven in the past to be unsuccessful. The challenge for James Cameron was to please the people who loved the ship while also making it a story that people who had never heard of the Titanic could also enjoy. It became the highest grossing film of all time for 13 years and is still number 3 on the list, so he was successful in that. You should go back and watch A Night to Remember though. Sounds like your style. Despite having its flaws it is considered the "most accurate" Titanic film and the one that historians place above all others. I fell asleep to it the first 2 times I tried to watch it but that's me.
Sweet Lil Devil That was informed (I assume), eloquent and savage. I applaud your comment.
Thank you for talking about the hat pins! So often overlooked, despite the role they played in women's independence!
Costumes are one of my favorite things in a movie and part of why adore Titanic.
When I'm a cruise I still dress every night for dinner. And the amount of luggage I drag along shows it.
Greetings all fashion historians, i'm so glad to say that you're wardrobe fact check videos are definitely knowledgable and educational.
In case anyone is wondering, here’s a little info on some of the the accessories; the gloves worn with the suit are STILL in production through the Chester Jefferies company. The shoes unfortunately are no longer being made but they were supplied by Pompei Shoe. The shoes worn with the evening gowns were both Peter Fox shoes
That cream suit was amazing. My great grandmother was a wearing similar hat in a 1905 picture so those hats were in style for a decade or more
I always love these fashion videos 😁
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I don’t know why.. but I think I’m in love with the fashion historian. She looks so.. classic
Absolutely enjoyed this!! Please Glamour do more with this historian ❤️
Please do a Fashion Fact Check on the changing fashions of Downton Abbey & Moulin Rouge.
That movie is timeless despite being based in 1912. That Oscar was well deserved.
I think it's interesting that she mentioned the idea of actresses and painted ladies as it was a dream of Rose's to be a "moving picture actress". Maybe a deliberate character choice?
You’re telling me I can do this as a profession
Can you do “Anne with an e”?
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I admire people like you. I adore fashion history
People also wore corsets to get the right look in their clothes.
It wasn't all about "oppressive" "restrictive" evil corsets.
If a modern woman wanted to wear Rose's clothing, she needed to wear the right underpinnings or the clothes wouldn't look right or fit properly.
Women below Rose's status still used older corsets & padding to shape their look.
Like us today using Spanx panties & full body compression wear to shape our bodies for body tight dresses.
It's no different. Women simply wanted to avoid looking frumpy.
I know this is an old comment, but thank you for pointing this out. To me, it's one of the subtler things in the corset scene, that Trudy the maid was obviously lacing Rose more comfortably, which was the norm, before Ruth takes over and tight-laces her. We have this idea that corsets were these dangerous garments when most of the time, they were about as restrictive as the Spanx you mentioned because women predominantly would NOT tight-lace because women as a whole aren't ridiculous enough to cause organ damage or restrict their own breathing just to achieve a certain look. It would be like saying all modern women wear sky-high stilettos, skin-tight jeans that impact circulation, and other sorts of pain-inducing fashion when in reality, some do and most don't.
Excellent video - really enjoyed the detail.
I never saw the movie, but my friend did. She went on and on about the costumes, and told me that the make-up was wrong for the period. She was always good at spotting things like that! I love Rose's suit and hat the best!
I've seen natural makeup on other period dramas, and it looks so much better. Pride & Prejudice with Colin Firth, for instance. The makeup in Titanic is just awful, they should have gone with a more natural look.
That makeup was a disgrace - like a fly in the ointment. Historical accuracy was such a priority in all other respects and then they went and ruined it with that garish makeup. Such a shame, really.
All the dresses in the movie are accurate since they were real replicated dresses can we PLEASE bring the 1912 fashion back? Thank youu
her brooch is so adoreable!! love it!
This expert's delivery is clear and professional. I like her.
I love how you gave reasoning for why the make-up was inaccurate in a way that did not shame the movie. Sometimes you gotta sacrifice a little bit of accuracy to entice your audience and I believe that is okay!
I’d love even more videos that look at the clothing of every other Titanic character: Jack, Cal, Molly, Ruth...
Please do the great gatsby