That tail strike was at YYZ in Toronto. You should see the "after" photos of it looking up at the tail that were on CityNews. The return flight to Paris had to be cancelled.
I cant tell if it was just a speed bump, but the way it looked and sounded to me he hit the tail at ~0:21 and then dragged until 0:30.... would love to see the pictures of the damage
Wait a minute, BA did the exact same tail strike with one of their 350s few months ago. Same scenario: long flare followed by a go-around, maybe it has to do with the aircraft type.
Traditionally, the British and the French don't get along. We tried once and made Concorde, but resumed the tradition after we both got bored of supersonic passenger planes.
Many years ago I had a medical evac helicopter land in the street immediately in front of my house. Similar tight conditions to this one. Kid ended up being OK after a surgery.
I‘ve been watching your videos pretty regularly for quite some time, and I just wanted to say: Thank you for making great videos, which are not clickbait (even the clip from the thumbnail always plays first), with great descriptions of what happened (even for non-enthusiasts), and credit to the author! There’s still hope on UA-cam. Keep making great content ❤
He doesn't actually make the videos, they are created by the UA-camrs who actually film the videos and post them. But does a great job of collating them so we can enjoy them.
Just when I thought that 🦀was ultra cool, the 🚁pilot did what most wouldn't even dream of attempting! Finishing up with the jet overtaking the other, 1 of your best vids ever that I've seen. 💯🧡🐺
2:35 Kuwait 777 pilots: Ladies and gentlemen if you look to your left you will see flight 2810 challenging us to a race, fasten your seatbelts, cuz this sh-t boutta get real 😈
They’re always in the news every couple of weeks for some safety related incident or issue. They’re one of if not the only major world airline to suffer a catastrophic loss of lives and metal due to pilot error and negligence in the past decade or more. I flew with them recently and how they handled the flight and the relax attitudes to take off checks, 10,000 feet all the flight attendants started walking around trying to feed people when we didn’t even reach cruising altitude on a flight from DC to Paris. While in decent they really didn’t check passengers belts, remove all necessary trash and clear the cabin. I’m just use to US airlines being strict with things like that and sometimes I get peevish because they’re always checking and asking questions. I had a different experience with KLM coming back to the US and they reached cruising altitude before everyone got up and the decent prep was long and thorough.
I loved the cheeky "... without suffering a tailstrike." @1:33 😂 It's amazing that Emirates has a huge number of currently operating A380s and yet they have had very few incidences.
i started to get into aviation because my parents forced me to take pilot lessons over the summer, at first i wasn’t looking forward to it, but after a Southwest flight from DAL to DCA and i got to look into the cockpit, i started to be more interested in planes and here i am now
@@GarrettWorcester it's just the time of year over here, literally one storm finished on Monday and we're getting another one today (Tuesday). Roll on summer.
Wow, after seeing the images of the tail on that A350, that was a disastrously bad landing/go around attempt. The entire rear of the plane will need to be repaired. I hope Air France will investigate how such a careless incident occurred.
More importantly I hope none of my loved ones ever travel on the repaired version of that plane. I don't trust airplane repairs. These airline disaster channels tell me that they give way either in a year or 25
Hmmm. Would an airline repair damage to an aircraft that some random internet guy thinks "didn't look too crazy"? Let's think about that for a moment shall we... Yes. I reckon they repaired it.@@Your_Local_Nerd
For all those that think the football was over the line! I present an overtake which was most likely NOT. The overtaking plane was lower, therefore closer to the viewer and parallax makes fools of most of us. 😊
This is a visual effect due to perspective and the relative distances between the planes, not necessarily due to any higher speed of Kuwait airlines' plane.
Why didn't they just punch the throttle instead of waiting like 6 seconds after executing go around. Also the Delta 767 is using the PW4000 which is getting quite old now. Plus that engine is known to be harder to inspect which might be the cause of the failure due to poor inspections.
the trent XWB usually takes around 4 seconds. You can hear that they only spool up a little for 9 seconds and then go to full power. why not just go full power when you need it and not wait?@@jazzi_0453
2:00 I remember , that a week ago , the rescue helicopter landed at 10-30m from our school. Our lessons were stopped for 30 minutes , because all students watched it.
2:03 That looks like a newer H135, not the older EC135. The black surround on the tail rotor gives it away. It is a Dutch Medical helicopter livery (ANWB).
I wonder, did the AF A350 try to do a go around having forgotten to check his speed and increase thrust *or* (given that the landing seemed normal up to the point of the tail strike) did they forget their maximum angle and turn aerodynamic braking into aerodynamic breaking?
You should ask Macc Aviation if you can use his A380 TOGA during storm Isha - he's an amazing spotter who goes out in all weathers, and was recording during the terrible weather in Manchester when the flight in from Dubai had to go around!
Impossible for me to judge, but I have to say that rotation looked like it was quite a low speed. Perhaps this was a Toga 15 manoeuvre due to realising they had messed up performance and then also messing up the recovery?
@@lbowski don’t know what the “15” stands for, but here’s what google said Definition. Take-off/Go Around (TO/GA) is an autopilot/autothrottle setting activating take-off or go-around thrust. Depending upon aircraft type, it may be activated by depressing a switch or by manually moving the thrust levers to the appropriate position.
Wait a minute! The 777-300ER (03:32) seems to be diving into a landing because it grows larger (closer to the camera) while the A321 grows smaller. Optically that would look like an overtake. Clever trick Boeing people!
AF landing makes no sense. You hear reverse thrust and then see the nose lifting at the same time when you hear the crashing sound accompanied with someone saying quite rightly “shit”… would love to know what happened in the cockpit
i’m guessing there was a plane on the runway or something, but i didn’t see anything but a report says Air France flight AF356, an Airbus A350-941, suffered a tailstrike during landing on runway 04L at Toronto-Pearson International Airport, ON (YYZ). The aircraft went around and landed normally 14 minutes later.
I was always a bit anxious about tail strikes when I worked in the Gulf States and flew on Tristars, They left the runway like a frog doing a leap with nose sharply angled up and tail down.
Sounds like it. Was pretty severe. Word is they were avoiding something on the runway, which would be one of the few times doing this wouldn’t get you fired.
That’s just not how you execute a go around… apparently they had issues to bring the nose down, add the thrust, and let the plane climb.. that’s disgraceful, in flight school you are taught to always add power, then manage the attitude, for a go around. I guess some people just don’t pay enough attention to the small details in their Ground school..
search up F-HYTYH tail strike on google and the first link shows the aftermath of the tail strike but i can’t find the original photo or where it’s from
There has been a few tail strikes in a go around for the A350 airbus needs to do a fix like Boeing did on the B777-300ER. The newer 777-300ER models do not have a tail skid no need after software update
Boeing 787 , Airbus A350. Carbon Fiber airplanes that need extra care. Repairs to the airframe are costly and difficult. What’s up with AF pilots and Toronto? They lost an A340 a few years ago.
Now THAT was a nasty tail strike.
Check flight the turned into a new career opportunity.
Someone is in for a heck of a lot of paperwork
Tenerife…
That tail strike was at YYZ in Toronto. You should see the "after" photos of it looking up at the tail that were on CityNews. The return flight to Paris had to be cancelled.
I cant tell if it was just a speed bump, but the way it looked and sounded to me he hit the tail at ~0:21 and then dragged until 0:30.... would love to see the pictures of the damage
Well done on a video with accurate descriptions and no click-bait. Enjoyed and appreciated.
It amazing how the pilot landed the helicopter in such a tight space. Amazing skill
skill and dedication to the patient
😂
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Thats not really tight. Normal spot. Camera angel makes it look tight
ahahaha the shade towards the A350 pilots on the 747-400 clip has me cracked up
Wait a minute, but BA has already retired all its 747-400s!!
@@CarlosMartinez-is1xz Wait a minute, THAT DOESNT MATTER
Wait a minute, BA did the exact same tail strike with one of their 350s few months ago. Same scenario: long flare followed by a go-around, maybe it has to do with the aircraft type.
"This British Airways Boeing 747-400 executes a late go around... without suffering a tailstrike."
Love that passive-aggressive remark.
Savage! 😆
OTOH 3 Minutes has a history of calling tail strikes where there weren't any, so probably just showing that 3 Minutes has learned its lesson now.
It's British Airways, of course it doesn't tailstrike.
Traditionally, the British and the French don't get along. We tried once and made Concorde, but resumed the tradition after we both got bored of supersonic passenger planes.
@@paulreilly3904 Britain doesn't do strikes anymore, not since she-who-must-not-be-named
Many years ago I had a medical evac helicopter land in the street immediately in front of my house. Similar tight conditions to this one. Kid ended up being OK after a surgery.
Thank you for including credits to my photograph. I appreciate your integrity.
Anthony Saiters
It's a pleasure, thanks for letting me feature your photograph!
How that helicopter managed to land in a garden is completely mind blowing. Hats off to the pilot.🫡
Pretty cool yeah! Also technically not a garden but a public playground. Very nice for the children.
@@jjbankertmy garden wouldn't fit a remote control helicopter.....
Yeah i am from the netherlands
It was Tom Cruise practicing a scene for the next mission impossible.
@@roblindhoud-jr3btthat added a lot to the conversation. Thanks.
That wasn't a tail strike, that was a tail crush.
I‘ve been watching your videos pretty regularly for quite some time, and I just wanted to say:
Thank you for making great videos, which are not clickbait (even the clip from the thumbnail always plays first), with great descriptions of what happened (even for non-enthusiasts), and credit to the author! There’s still hope on UA-cam. Keep making great content ❤
He doesn't actually make the videos, they are created by the UA-camrs who actually film the videos and post them. But does a great job of collating them so we can enjoy them.
@@rod_at_adelaide5766 I know, that’s why I’m also pointing out the great credit. 😄 I mean making the compilations to post on UA-cam
1:16 Dang, that runway angle looks really amazing
It may look like an accident, but the sparks are how they light the APU for more power.
LOL I was thinking something similar. The APU is fine! Its just a scratch! its fine....
hahahaah
The photo is great VLOF rest. Not the elevators are full nose up…looking fr the minimum unstick speed. Routine flight test maneuver.
LMAOOOOO
I fly 3-4 times per month.....and love these videos !
Just when I thought that 🦀was ultra cool, the 🚁pilot did what most wouldn't even dream of attempting! Finishing up with the jet overtaking the other, 1 of your best vids ever that I've seen. 💯🧡🐺
2:29 how did they captured the video// im eager to know that
0:09 RyanAir: You’re hired!!
Ryanair pilots > Air France pilots
Number of flights per day and safety record speak for themselves
Thankyou! 1 extra second of aviation!
I'm not good at landing a plane in MSFS myself, but holy shit that pilot really ****** up
Please do not use bad words on here
3 MOA: “British Airways executes […] WITHOUT suffering a tail strike”
Air France: And I took that personally
Quality content. Thanks very much for this.
Thanks for posting my A380 clip. Legend x
2:35 Kuwait 777 pilots: Ladies and gentlemen if you look to your left you will see flight 2810 challenging us to a race, fasten your seatbelts, cuz this sh-t boutta get real 😈
LOL
It's actually an optical illusion. The B777 is much closer to our eyes, that's why we think it goes faster when it actually doesn't.
Original..
i feel like i’ve seen this
kuwait has government paid fuel so they dont give a crap about costs and use a high CI
My confidence in Air France and their pilots has been diminishing ever since AF447
They're really not good. Especially for a flag carrier airline.
As a French citizen living abroad, I was traveling once with AF and never again... I suppose pilots are not so bad but the crew was so unpleasant.
They’re always in the news every couple of weeks for some safety related incident or issue. They’re one of if not the only major world airline to suffer a catastrophic loss of lives and metal due to pilot error and negligence in the past decade or more. I flew with them recently and how they handled the flight and the relax attitudes to take off checks, 10,000 feet all the flight attendants started walking around trying to feed people when we didn’t even reach cruising altitude on a flight from DC to Paris. While in decent they really didn’t check passengers belts, remove all necessary trash and clear the cabin. I’m just use to US airlines being strict with things like that and sometimes I get peevish because they’re always checking and asking questions. I had a different experience with KLM coming back to the US and they reached cruising altitude before everyone got up and the decent prep was long and thorough.
I loved the cheeky "... without suffering a tailstrike." @1:33 😂 It's amazing that Emirates has a huge number of currently operating A380s and yet they have had very few incidences.
It all started with a book.
Flight without Formula!
Now I am crazy about aviation and that's what brought me here!
i started to get into aviation because my parents forced me to take pilot lessons over the summer, at first i wasn’t looking forward to it, but after a Southwest flight from DAL to DCA and i got to look into the cockpit, i started to be more interested in planes and here i am now
That A380 (Emirates) is a monster (but very elegant)!!
Best aircraft I have ever flown on by a mile.
We have terrible storms in the UK at the moment and more due to arrive..... Be prepared for LOTS of UK footage over the coming weeks.
You answered my question (about "What's wrong with the air in the UK?" 🤣) - thanks!👍🏼👍🏼
@@GarrettWorcester it's just the time of year over here, literally one storm finished on Monday and we're getting another one today (Tuesday). Roll on summer.
@@GarrettWorcesterIt's full of Trumps from the US coming over the Atlantic (trump is British for fart)
This channel is as close to flying I'll ever need
Thanks!
np
no problem, happy to help.
Wow, after seeing the images of the tail on that A350, that was a disastrously bad landing/go around attempt. The entire rear of the plane will need to be repaired. I hope Air France will investigate how such a careless incident occurred.
Nope, airlines are forbidden from investigating incidents.
They would have just shrugged their shoulder's,...@@Redridge07
the aircraft was damaged afterwards, the aftermath photos didnt look too crazy, but i’m not sure if it was repaired or not
More importantly I hope none of my loved ones ever travel on the repaired version of that plane. I don't trust airplane repairs. These airline disaster channels tell me that they give way either in a year or 25
Hmmm. Would an airline repair damage to an aircraft that some random internet guy thinks "didn't look too crazy"?
Let's think about that for a moment shall we...
Yes. I reckon they repaired it.@@Your_Local_Nerd
Never seen someone tailstrike the WHOLE tail section at once before... damn...
Air ambulance pilots are awesome.
380 is such a magnificent bird.
Cool vid❤
For all those that think the football was over the line! I present an overtake which was most likely NOT. The overtaking plane was lower, therefore closer to the viewer and parallax makes fools of most of us. 😊
Oh my goodness on that tail strike. I suspect the pilot flying may be getting some additional training after that one. ;-)
Additional training ... cleaning toilets.
tough times for the a350😢
About the BA 747: I thought there no passenger flights with a 747 anymore. Or was this video from before the Covid pandemic?
2:32 ...Or should that be an *under*-take?
Haha, that's a good one 😄
It's actually an optical illusion.
Nice little dig at our French pilots there when looking at the 747 going around... 😂
Wow! In the last clip, bottom plane was bigger, but still faster than the upper plane. Amazing.
This is a visual effect due to perspective and the relative distances between the planes, not necessarily due to any higher speed of Kuwait airlines' plane.
Last video is not overtaking but the parallax.
2:18 They landed it, now they gotta take off again 🤣
Why didn't they just punch the throttle instead of waiting like 6 seconds after executing go around.
Also the Delta 767 is using the PW4000 which is getting quite old now. Plus that engine is known to be harder to inspect which might be the cause of the failure due to poor inspections.
It takes a few seconds for an engine to spool up after throttle has been pushed
the trent XWB usually takes around 4 seconds. You can hear that they only spool up a little for 9 seconds and then go to full power. why not just go full power when you need it and not wait?@@jazzi_0453
Airbus was on chemtrails mode and Kuwait 777 was not.
Rocks on the roof 2:15 just like here in New Mexico!
Rip tail of a350 💀
Also first
Cool, thanks for sharing
The last one may look scary, but there is 2000' vertical separation between them. And who is filming it?
Birds chirping on the last one. 😂
I see Air France still haven't fired that instructor who keeps telling the pilots to hold the stick back all the way regardless of circumstances.
Damn i shouldnt have laughed so hard at this
Back in the 70's and 80's I traveled to 59 countries, many more than once for work. We referred to Air France as Air Chance back then.
2:00 I remember , that a week ago , the rescue helicopter landed at 10-30m from our school. Our lessons were stopped for 30 minutes , because all students watched it.
2:03 That looks like a newer H135, not the older EC135. The black surround on the tail rotor gives it away. It is a Dutch Medical helicopter livery (ANWB).
British Airways 747 executes a late go a4ound without suffering a tail strike, yeah I see what you did there buddy😂😂😂
Yikes! That Air France landing was expensive!
I wonder, did the AF A350 try to do a go around having forgotten to check his speed and increase thrust *or* (given that the landing seemed normal up to the point of the tail strike) did they forget their maximum angle and turn aerodynamic braking into aerodynamic breaking?
You should ask Macc Aviation if you can use his A380 TOGA during storm Isha - he's an amazing spotter who goes out in all weathers, and was recording during the terrible weather in Manchester when the flight in from Dubai had to go around!
In passenger perspective its hard to notice that tail strike.
The Airbus on the first clip: "drop it like it's hot"
which camera is the overtaking footage please tell me :D
The A380 main landing gear can turn sideways for crosswind landings and takeoffs.
It's nice to see something other than cars drag race 😂
We didn't see the tail strike as promised on this video. Sick
It seems like A-F has more and more strange incidents... Pilot training issue?
Impossible for me to judge, but I have to say that rotation looked like it was quite a low speed. Perhaps this was a Toga 15 manoeuvre due to realising they had messed up performance and then also messing up the recovery?
Toga 15? No such thing. And the rest about performance also makes no sense.
WTH is a Toga 15?
@@lbowski don’t know what the “15” stands for, but here’s what google said
Definition. Take-off/Go Around (TO/GA) is an autopilot/autothrottle setting activating take-off or go-around thrust. Depending upon aircraft type, it may be activated by depressing a switch or by manually moving the thrust levers to the appropriate position.
@@Your_Local_Nerd yeah, we know what Toga is.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 what’s toga 15? i already know what that is but i’ve never heard of toga 15
Lol that implied snarkiness, love it hahah "French Plane Tailstrike" "British Plane with NO Tailstrike" :D
Wait a minute! The 777-300ER (03:32) seems to be diving into a landing because it grows larger (closer to the camera) while the A321 grows smaller. Optically that would look like an overtake. Clever trick Boeing people!
AF landing makes no sense. You hear reverse thrust and then see the nose lifting at the same time when you hear the crashing sound accompanied with someone saying quite rightly “shit”… would love to know what happened in the cockpit
2:28 Atc giving clearance to race at cruising altitude
“This British Airways 747-400 executed a late go around.. *without* suffering a tailstrike.”
Air France: “And I took that personally.”
Why did the a350 need to go around? Seemed like a stable landing to me 🤔
Were u able to see if the runway was clear? 🤷🏻♂️
My understanding was there was a runway incursion or at least the pilot believed that was the case. It only just happened so more will be known soon.
i’m guessing there was a plane on the runway or something, but i didn’t see anything
but a report says Air France flight AF356, an Airbus A350-941, suffered a tailstrike during landing on runway 04L at Toronto-Pearson International Airport, ON (YYZ).
The aircraft went around and landed normally 14 minutes later.
They said after the 2nd attempt that they aborted the landing because they thought they were going to land too long
As far as this video shows, it appears like a directional control issue on the landing roll, which precipitated the go-around.
Bruh the A350 is getting less safe then the 787 💀
both are safe
Ye I guess
Helicopter pilot is like "Honey, I am coming home for lunch"
With a risky maneuver like that, he was expecting more than lunch.
Does Airbus not have a pitch limit that limits the amount of pitch to…say 30ft after liftoff?
yes, but pilots can overide that by using full stick deflection. Basically a safety feature.
Netherlands has realy skilled choppa pilots
What is wrong with the air France pilots ? Many incidents lately
I was always a bit anxious about tail strikes when I worked in the Gulf States and flew on Tristars, They left the runway like a frog doing a leap with nose sharply angled up and tail down.
What's wrong with the boeing airplanes these days ?
Was that high-pitched sound from the interieur an indication of strike?
Sounds like it. Was pretty severe. Word is they were avoiding something on the runway, which would be one of the few times doing this wouldn’t get you fired.
This is a French Fry moment in real time
I’d like to know how you can say the 747 did not have a tail strike when you’re looking out a passenger window.
Since when did British airways still operate the 747
I did that on the ski hill one time. Hurt like hell.
That’s just not how you execute a go around… apparently they had issues to bring the nose down, add the thrust, and let the plane climb.. that’s disgraceful, in flight school you are taught to always add power, then manage the attitude, for a go around. I guess some people just don’t pay enough attention to the small details in their Ground school..
If there’s a picture of the tail strike then there should be video!
Always wondered what they say on the PA to the passengers when they screw something up like that and have to go back to the airport.
What do airlines do to the pilots after a tail strike?
A350. What happened to Alpha Limit and Alpha Floor protection?
It turns out the alpha floor is not related to the asphalt floor.
Hello there
0:39 what was the website you got the photo from?
search up F-HYTYH tail strike on google and the first link shows the aftermath of the tail strike
but i can’t find the original photo or where it’s from
BA 747 ?
There has been a few tail strikes in a go around for the A350 airbus needs to do a fix like Boeing did on the B777-300ER. The newer 777-300ER models do not have a tail skid no need after software update
the A350 has a software tailstrike protection. But it can be overridden if the pilots use full stick deflection. Which is a good design.
Jan 2: Japan airlines 516😰
Jan 21: Airfrance A350 About to repeat history💀💀💀💀💀💀
That emergency helicopter pilot can land on a dime.
skill and dedication to his mission
Why didn't the flight computer override the pilot input on that Airbus in the first clip?
because the tailstrike protection can be overridden by the pilots.
Boeing 787 , Airbus A350. Carbon Fiber airplanes that need extra care. Repairs to the airframe are costly and difficult.
What’s up with AF pilots and Toronto? They lost an A340 a few years ago.
Outro 2x speed 😂😂
When a plane becomes a crab. That can fly.
If they dont give proper maintenance to that A350, theres a huge chance its going to crash in the futurue, sort of like CAL flight 611 and JAL 123