Did they actually.. fix the Battlefront: Classic Collection?

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  • A major patch just dropped for Star Wars Battlefront: Classic Collection and I jumped in and tested all the fixes and found some major stuff that wasn't in the official patch notes!
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    00:00 intro
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  • @jeppe9821
    @jeppe9821 3 місяці тому +267

    I managed to join while you played these games in the video, I will say that in it's current state the game is pretty much what I expected. There's some jank, but you can still pop off and get great scores. Played for 5+ hours today and had a blast!

    • @Spudpotato08
      @Spudpotato08 3 місяці тому +11

      I’m just so grateful that they are even trying to fix it haha

    • @Osamas_worst_nightmare
      @Osamas_worst_nightmare 3 місяці тому +12

      @@Spudpotato08 the Star Wars community is too obnoxious to not be heard, it happened in new battlefront 2 too. The game should be fine ( hopefully)

    • @Spudpotato08
      @Spudpotato08 3 місяці тому

      @@Osamas_worst_nightmare 👍

    • @TheShmomp
      @TheShmomp 3 місяці тому +1

      How does it feel to buy a 5 to 10 dollar game for 40 bucks?

    • @lordzendor6698
      @lordzendor6698 3 місяці тому

      @@Osamas_worst_nightmare yh the second someone try’s lube up Star Wars we turn into the angriest collection of nerds you’ll ever find 😂

  • @bruhtholemew
    @bruhtholemew 3 місяці тому +335

    So a delay of a week or two could have prevented this mess? Why do they do this to themselves? There's now people who're permanently convinced it's forever completely broken.

    • @DOOMED166
      @DOOMED166 3 місяці тому +35

      It is still broken no crossplay and it's still region locked so I can't find matches cause servers are dead

    • @theradiantdehd3997
      @theradiantdehd3997 3 місяці тому +11

      Is the game forever broken? Depends on if the higher ups will let them keep working on it. Is my trust that they give one shit about this series broken? Yeah, completely. I’ll just go mod the other PC port and enjoy my nostalgia without a company that hates their customers trying to ruin my experience.

    • @saber2802
      @saber2802 3 місяці тому +10

      When a company does something stupid, look at investors.

    • @megaman37456
      @megaman37456 3 місяці тому +8

      @@DOOMED166 Cossplay between console and PC has always been bad, it always fucks over the console players in the end.

    • @LifeLifeLP
      @LifeLifeLP 3 місяці тому +9

      "a delayed game is eventually good but a rushed game is forever bad"

  • @ObiGommGaming
    @ObiGommGaming 3 місяці тому +1007

    Considering the number of fixes and the size of this patch, it’s obvious they were already working on this even before the release. This arguably makes it even worse as they knew they would be releasing it in such a broken state

    • @definitelynotobama6851
      @definitelynotobama6851 3 місяці тому +236

      That’s possible but more likely is that some bigwig up top forced them to release early

    • @kylesawkon4074
      @kylesawkon4074 3 місяці тому +89

      Modern gaming in a nutshell

    • @anthonytitone
      @anthonytitone 3 місяці тому +96

      I doubt the devs picked their own release date, it was announced & released very suddenly

    • @Darkcranio
      @Darkcranio 3 місяці тому +18

      Could be, but looking at what kind of fixes they are, code wise could be done by 1 person in an afternoon. So could have been the last 3 days too. I mean shit like "unhid" axis options, which is like 1 line of code or change a 0 to 1.

    • @nate32396
      @nate32396 3 місяці тому +7

      They probably didn’t have it ready in time for launch.

  • @Gwilherm
    @Gwilherm 3 місяці тому +341

    0:20 that poor Vader...

    • @clanka.
      @clanka. 3 місяці тому +28

      bro got jumped

    • @milo20060
      @milo20060 3 місяці тому +16

      That looked funny :D

    • @cursedhawkins1305
      @cursedhawkins1305 3 місяці тому +1

      Was probably A.I judging by how everyone was behaving.

    • @grimtrazzd6043
      @grimtrazzd6043 3 місяці тому +3

      @@cursedhawkins1305it was, bf 1 heros are always ai

    • @SogeKingDon
      @SogeKingDon 3 місяці тому +2

      @@grimtrazzd6043 and knocking them off the map was the only way to get rid of them with their immortality lol. Glad to see me and my brother weren't the only ones who figured this out.

  • @giano427
    @giano427 3 місяці тому +198

    Han was wrong... you don't need a blaster by your side. You need a rocket launcher.

  • @LH-vx9zw
    @LH-vx9zw 3 місяці тому +354

    15 GB update??? Like how did they make Battlefront 2, a game that is 5GB a 70GB + game?

    • @Nobodyjbh14
      @Nobodyjbh14 3 місяці тому +48

      Well for starters I think when someone Checked on PC at launch the upscaled cutscenes are like 15GB 😅

    • @MisterDutch93
      @MisterDutch93 3 місяці тому +70

      Uncompressed 4k textures are really big and take up big chunks of space, especially if they upscaled literally every texture (even small ones like the guns or lightsaber hilts that easily could've stayed 512x512 or 1024x1024.

    • @TheDarthChungus
      @TheDarthChungus 3 місяці тому +15

      The OG steam release says it's 9.59gb on my PC of Battlefront 2 (my PC also says the Classic Collection is taking up 62.88gb)

    • @TheDarthChungus
      @TheDarthChungus 3 місяці тому +11

      Also just checked the Classic Collection files on my laptop and it says some of the cutscene files under the movies folder are anywhere from 36MB to 1.3gb. With many of them being from 126MB to 461MB

    • @Moneybagzzz
      @Moneybagzzz 3 місяці тому +9

      Yup, it's the movie scenes, not the game textures like some are saying@@TheDarthChungus

  • @space680
    @space680 3 місяці тому +149

    Even if they fix every problem in the game, it was an inexcusable launch and and Aspyr destroyed their reputation and lost trust with a large portion of the community by lying to them and releasing an unfinished product for nearly $40.
    The game lost a ton of players from the launch issues, there is no cross-region play, and there is no cross-play. I cannot imagine the online community of this game lasting more then a couple months, considering how low the player count already is.

    • @turokrambo5617
      @turokrambo5617 3 місяці тому +17

      This is why First Impressions matter. People love Helldivers 2 and Palworld for this reasoning. Those games had some bugs on launch. Put they worked. They actually functioned on launch. And have kept there players hase going still BECAUSE of the there launches. Again first Impressions MATTER

    • @bruhtholemew
      @bruhtholemew 3 місяці тому +13

      I think without cross-play it was doomed to die fast anyway. The original B2 barely hit 300 daily players on average, and even less for B1. I figured most people would get their nostalgia fix, and then abandon it shortly after.

    • @Kaida-san
      @Kaida-san 3 місяці тому +4

      @@turokrambo5617
      Helldivers 2 is also in a tight spot and losing players, because the game got more problems wit the latest update.

    • @Crimson_Snake1
      @Crimson_Snake1 3 місяці тому +7

      Oh, for god sake, it's not all about online play!

    • @bruhtholemew
      @bruhtholemew 3 місяці тому +8

      @@Crimson_Snake1 That's even more reason to just stick to the originals.

  • @darknessrealm9575
    @darknessrealm9575 3 місяці тому +101

    The fact that the Halo MCC is now taking LESS space in the hard drive than this… is extremely sad. 6 campaigns and all the multiplayer and forge and theater is somehow LESS than two 20 year old games… let that sink in

    • @jasperfox6821
      @jasperfox6821 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, I mean 343 mostly know what they're doing lol.

    • @scottb3034
      @scottb3034 3 місяці тому +5

      Half of the MCC comprises games that are even older than these. LOL

    • @dpray96
      @dpray96 3 місяці тому +7

      Don't forget Halo 1 and 2 also has both the old and remastered designs/textures.

    • @wyattlandry9579
      @wyattlandry9579 3 місяці тому +4

      @@scottb3034 2 of 6 (or 8 if you count remasters) isn't half

    • @Skagoni
      @Skagoni 3 місяці тому +1

      Isn't MCC over 100 GB? At least mine is without mods or anything.

  • @SleePixel
    @SleePixel 3 місяці тому +17

    "a step in the right direction" for 20 year old games is wild to me

  • @billytk1225
    @billytk1225 3 місяці тому +106

    All the gaming company learned from this is that they can release a game without any multiplayer stress testing. Get everyone to pay them to become beta testers, then start working on the bug fixes and blame most of the problems on server and other tech equipment problems. Funny how fast they were able to start fixing some major problems once the beta testers purchased and played their untested game.

    • @VITAS874
      @VITAS874 3 місяці тому +5

      You right.

    • @matthewblunderbuss4545
      @matthewblunderbuss4545 3 місяці тому +25

      They also learned with the negative media and mass refunds that doing so isn't exactly the best idea.

    • @beardalaxy
      @beardalaxy 3 місяці тому +7

      They wouldn't have gotten any money, it usually takes 30 days to get it. It's not like every single payment gets put directly in their bank account. With Steam's refund policy especially they probably missed out on a LOT of money.

    • @CAPCOM784
      @CAPCOM784 3 місяці тому +6

      Best thing is just boycott Aspyr and don't purchase anything they make from here on out. This is the only way to make them understand people are tired of these unfinished games being released at launch.

    • @viewaskew7741
      @viewaskew7741 3 місяці тому +1

      We are essentially unpaid QA testers that pat for the privilege of testing a broken game

  • @DennisMII
    @DennisMII 3 місяці тому +134

    I’m convinced many publishers and developers don’t bother with beta testing prelease anymore. They just leave it up to the early adopters to report all the bugs and then maybe fix them. At least this patch came quickly.

    • @philipkoch7570
      @philipkoch7570 3 місяці тому +8

      I feel that it has gotten a bit more sloppy, but especially with the server problems, that is something that a small QA team often just cant properly test.

    • @aceclover758
      @aceclover758 3 місяці тому +5

      Given how stupid gamers are, of course they rush releases
      It will sell

    • @razorback9999able
      @razorback9999able 3 місяці тому +6

      It proves that today's devs and publishers have lost passion for making video games anymore.

    • @philipkoch7570
      @philipkoch7570 3 місяці тому +7

      I agree. Look at Helldivers, Look at Baldurs Gate, look at Elden Ring. Ofc these games still got bugs glitches and exploits, but the games are made, so that the consumer didn't basically function as a beta tester. And aslong as these games keep dominating the market and content and the rushed games keep getting refunded, I believe it will get better

    • @aceclover758
      @aceclover758 3 місяці тому +1

      @@philipkoch7570 You are so naive

  • @xSuperFryx
    @xSuperFryx 3 місяці тому +95

    It seemingly took them like a week to fix all this stuff. They would have avoided so much flack and bad press with just an extra week worth of effort for launch. Crazy lol.

    • @philipkoch7570
      @philipkoch7570 3 місяці тому +10

      I think a mayority of these issues weren't seen during testing. When 10.000 Players play a game a 1:1000 bug that happens every minute will happen 10 times per minute. but with 100 tester only once every 10 mins. And I dont think they knew the servers would have issues. It's always easier to fix something that has 10000 testers than 100.
      Most issues in games can be fixed within 1-2 weeks, if given enough concentration/manpower. It is just that things like the fucked up servers cant come to light with a small team of QA, compared to hunders or thousands of players

    • @xSuperFryx
      @xSuperFryx 3 місяці тому +12

      @@philipkoch7570 I figured that’s part of it but some of these issues were super obvious that even bare minimum testing should catch. The wrong loading screen sound, scopes being 4:3…

    • @dren8346
      @dren8346 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@xSuperFryx so true the loading screen being wrong feels like they literally didn't test this game or cared at all.

    • @arthurmorgan7086
      @arthurmorgan7086 3 місяці тому

      @@philipkoch7570thank you. People don’t understand this

    • @philipkoch7570
      @philipkoch7570 3 місяці тому

      @@dren8346 honestly once you programm some stuff by yourself you realise how weird this stuff can be. F.e. when I was playing around making my own game, sometimes audio, even tho the audio files were completely correct just sounded cursed or wrong. It played everything it should, but due to some layering the audio was cutting together with other audio and was wrong.
      I get it feels lazy, but the audio sounded quite close and I can see how a stressed QA team testing the game before launch could think, eh mabey I'm hearing things wrong.
      However I must still say the game does feel way to buggy to be a full release.
      I feel this was still somewhat a cashgrab still. The 70GB kind off show me, that the game was poorly optimised.
      Back in the day, because consoles and PCs had slower Specs and less storage games had to have compact code. But you only get compact, If the code is very well written and properly tested. I feel this is why back in the day games the felt unfinished upon release were less common. I bet the OG BFs could've been 70GB, but that would've meant thst noone could've actually played the game, so they had to downsize the code and in downsizing had to automatically fix code.
      Things like in Diablo 4 where not only the player, but all their data including their storage chest are loaded could've never happened in the past, because the code to load that instead of just loading a character and the moves they have, loading all of that not only requires way better specs, but whatever Spagetti code that loads that stuff is probably 4-5 times larger, than it would've been, by just loading the char.

  • @brycebirkinbine4119
    @brycebirkinbine4119 3 місяці тому +91

    Essentially this should’ve been the launch edition of the game

    • @TheMountainMan-wz8xf
      @TheMountainMan-wz8xf 3 місяці тому +7

      Right, but I'm gonna take the W's we can get.

    • @dren8346
      @dren8346 3 місяці тому +6

      Yep they could have easily saved their reputation if they did an early access bug reporting type thing. Now no one is going to play this long term and for good reason.

    • @BattlefrontUpdates
      @BattlefrontUpdates  3 місяці тому +17

      Yep...

    • @michaeldoeslifefan
      @michaeldoeslifefan 3 місяці тому

      calm down pal

    • @user-wu4dq7il4w
      @user-wu4dq7il4w 3 місяці тому +3

      @@dren8346 I personally feel this is a bad take. Anyone who loves bf2 will absolutely play this if it’s in a *functional* state.
      I would even say that over half of the people that pre-ordered are likely still going to keep tabs on it: refund or no.

  • @scotyclash8647
    @scotyclash8647 3 місяці тому +38

    Adding the end cutscenes is probably why the update is huge

    • @motofevermedia1
      @motofevermedia1 3 місяці тому +2

      That's what I'm saying

    • @patyos2
      @patyos2 3 місяці тому +2

      The cutscenes were already there the problem was with streamer mode apparently skipping them even if it was off

  • @gungaloscrungalo8925
    @gungaloscrungalo8925 3 місяці тому +71

    Much better for me. I'm not really interested in multiplayer, so restored campaign cutscenes, sound effects and general audio fixes were my main things.

    • @anthonytitone
      @anthonytitone 3 місяці тому +3

      Same, I’d love to c 4 player split screen come back too from the original BF2 Xbox version

    • @TaskForce-ql3bx
      @TaskForce-ql3bx 3 місяці тому +5

      Still had my eardrum blown out by a grenade today on Felucia. :/

    • @sylansylan4189
      @sylansylan4189 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@TaskForce-ql3bx I'll say this now, it happened a lot on the original release for the Steam version. I had my ears blown out by Proton Torps and bombs in Space Battles and even had my ears blown out by an Imperial death scream on the original. At this ooint I see it as a quirk of the game and always laugh about it.

    • @darthcaedus9130
      @darthcaedus9130 3 місяці тому

      Lol as someone with kids sleeping, who needs sound​@TaskForce-ql3bx

    • @LukeNukem2002
      @LukeNukem2002 3 місяці тому

      @@TaskForce-ql3bx it's like they wanted it to feel realistic with a grenade going off by your ear 😂

  • @PatrickMcGrane
    @PatrickMcGrane 3 місяці тому +32

    Thank goodness they fixed the 501st journals. Pretty much the whole reason I got back into Star Wars 20 years ago, and I was really sad to hear how bugged they were.

    • @redseagaming7832
      @redseagaming7832 3 місяці тому +1

      Now all they had to do is to stop the hard crashing When you're about to beat the mission Before you get to the jedi temple.

  • @mitwhitgaming7722
    @mitwhitgaming7722 3 місяці тому +165

    Thank goodness they are being open about it. This feels more like one of those situations where corporate big wigs pushed a game out too early.
    The fact that they actually fixed the BF1 loading screen audio and the cutscenes makes me feel like this team really cares.

    • @redmage08
      @redmage08 3 місяці тому +33

      The way that they handled KotOR 2's port for Mac/Linux back in the day and when they said they wanted to add TSLRCM into the switch Port, you can tell the developers are passionate fans. Maybe not the most masterful, but passionate and given a little more time and resources I do think they could make good ports and even good games. Unfortunately they won't get more resources, especially not after another rushed launch. Self-fulfilling prophecy

    • @urm8matt156
      @urm8matt156 3 місяці тому +2

      what about republic commando tho? Did they fix everything

    • @Nobodyjbh14
      @Nobodyjbh14 3 місяці тому +11

      Yup. I wish more people realised few Devs hate their jobs the way some people think they do. In this case aspyr is owned by embracer and the IP is owned by Disney both of whom could have caught some of these issues and/or pushed for more time. I really doubt aspyr wanted to launch the game in this state.

    • @mitwhitgaming7722
      @mitwhitgaming7722 3 місяці тому +16

      @@urm8matt156 Most devs don't get a choice on what they work on. That's usually a decision made by their boss' boss.

    • @mwahahaha2100
      @mwahahaha2100 3 місяці тому

      Yes Devs are heroes and do no wrong... 1 week made such a difference, all they had to do is work a bit harder.

  • @JEST7STARS
    @JEST7STARS 3 місяці тому +14

    One thing I'll contribute here: I think we should be nuanced about who's at fault for the state of this launch.
    Yes, Aspyr were the developers, but they were clearly working to resolve the issues with the collection before it released. DO NOT FORGET that this collection was overseen by Embracer Group, known to be an absymal company in modern gaming for blatantly prioritizing shareholders.
    I completely believe that Aspyr was given a launch deadline that was unfeasible and told to work with it. Aspyr is not perfect, but the horrific launch smells like an Embracer order to me...

  • @WhereWeRoll
    @WhereWeRoll 3 місяці тому +2

    15Gb update for a 75Gb port of two 3Gb games from 20 years ago? What a time to be alive

  • @MasterSonicKnight
    @MasterSonicKnight 3 місяці тому +15

    the thing about the cantina music is that it isn't treated as a music, it's treated as a sound effect. it was made like that to make it so u can only hear it when u get close to the cantina, so the closer u are to it the lourder it is, meanwhile actual music is always playing on the bg at the same volume regardless of where u are. so if u wanted to lower or mute the cantina music u'd need to change the sfx volume, not music.
    "but then how tf was that music playing on all maps all the time?" well beats me how they managed to do that colossal glitch

    • @scottb3034
      @scottb3034 3 місяці тому

      They aren't talking about that. They are referring to the Hero Assault "Party Mode" which in the original BF2 worked differently than the other modes in that it would play the various Cantina pieces and the Yub Nub song on continuous loop rather than other pieces of music. It would just go on forever. It was only a Hero Assault Mode feature and apparently you can't disable that. They aren't talking about the actual Cantina on Mos Eisley and how that would play the music as I guess a sound effect (which is why it was emphasized as a Hero Assault Mode glitch and not a hero assault mode on Mos Eisley Glitch).

    • @Xahnel
      @Xahnel 3 місяці тому +1

      That's the sort of bug that tells me what the first mp map (possibly the first testing map in general) made was: mos eisley. Because a mos eisley artifact was left in every map.
      Like how Fallout 4 was build on the bones of skyrim and still has dragon code in it.

    • @MasterSonicKnight
      @MasterSonicKnight 3 місяці тому

      @@scottb3034 wtf i played the original for years and i've never heard abt this party mode
      was it for all platforms?

    • @scottb3034
      @scottb3034 3 місяці тому

      @@MasterSonicKnight yeah. But on the base release for PC and PS it was limited to only mos eisley. Everyone was a hero character and they were given standard health bars.
      Xbox got expanded hero assault with DLC and PC modded it in with more maps.
      Also by party mode I mean it isn't a standard game but that it had special rules being that everyone was a hero. Also it had different music from the rest of the game (yub nub and the cantina music)

    • @MasterSonicKnight
      @MasterSonicKnight 3 місяці тому

      @@scottb3034 oh i know that as hero assault instead of party mode
      and i haven't played it in many years, so i prob just don't remember how it affected the music

  • @oliround
    @oliround 3 місяці тому +18

    Imagine if they were intelligent enough to have matchmaking servers built before the game released which requires matchmaking servers

    • @brycecampbell9231
      @brycecampbell9231 3 місяці тому

      Nah dude we want lobbies for this game. Match making for this kind of game is not it

  • @Tabby3456
    @Tabby3456 3 місяці тому +17

    I hope that they add an update that reduces the bloat data

    • @originalSiiiN
      @originalSiiiN 3 місяці тому

      get a bigger hard drive 😂

    • @Tabby3456
      @Tabby3456 3 місяці тому +12

      @@originalSiiiN the issue isn't even that the 2 games are big, its that they don't know how to compress files

    • @megaman37456
      @megaman37456 3 місяці тому +3

      @@Tabby3456 A compression update would be amazing

    • @scottb3034
      @scottb3034 3 місяці тому

      @@Tabby3456I highly doubt it. They aren't in the business of efficiency (no one is). Call of Duty having a 200 gb game and doing nothing to compress it doomed any chance of devs actually bothering to do it.

    • @xbane5109
      @xbane5109 3 місяці тому

      @@Tabby3456 yes my friend. if they will optimizes datas this can easily 40gb. even than its too much but look at some repacks over the internet. sometimes 30 gb smaller and i talk about the unzipped files. (different games)

  • @anthonytitone
    @anthonytitone 3 місяці тому +10

    I’d still love to c them add 4 player split screen

    • @beardalaxy
      @beardalaxy 3 місяці тому +5

      Kind of ridiculous it doesn't have it. I understand not having it back in the day for the ps2 and pc, but now? Nah.

    • @anthonytitone
      @anthonytitone 3 місяці тому +2

      @@beardalaxy ya I agree, it shouldn’t be that hard to add & it’s the only feature I know of from the original versions missing, they added XL from PC & DLC from X box but not 4 player split screen from X box

  • @prinzlaser
    @prinzlaser 3 місяці тому +4

    Imagine being a developer on this project. There is no way any of the people actually working on it would've released it like that. Smells like Excel Sheet/CEO decision.

  • @qwefg3
    @qwefg3 3 місяці тому +5

    For me. I don't feel like giving it another try until May the 4th.
    1) because this game is still in need of patches
    2) to see which way the drama goes
    3) to see if it gets discounted to $30 or less on May 4th.
    Mostly for fixes.

    • @PolishHussar04
      @PolishHussar04 3 місяці тому

      As a fan of the original bf2 i am just disappointed this game was my childhood and they botched it that hard

  • @RedMagic25
    @RedMagic25 3 місяці тому +3

    Honestly it was crazy how much people were already shitting on it. I saw that it released in cyberpunk 2077 form and just said “give a few days for them to patch it” and like meanwhile everyone is already giving it their final reviews.

    • @user-wu4dq7il4w
      @user-wu4dq7il4w 3 місяці тому

      Cyberpunk was a very hyped up, new gen game trying to do more than they could with “every npc lives it’s own life”….this is a 36$, re-released, 20 year old game many times worse than the originals.
      Just a smidge of a difference lol

  • @AustinH7
    @AustinH7 3 місяці тому +7

    Too bad it’s being broken on launch guarantees we will never see what it could have been population wise for multiplayer. It tanked its popularity instantly.

  • @Omnipotentkami
    @Omnipotentkami 3 місяці тому +6

    They still have more features to go. I still want to see the Enemy AI team select a hero like in Xbox and PSP. I also want to see sensitivity changes too.

    • @user-wu4dq7il4w
      @user-wu4dq7il4w 3 місяці тому +3

      Enemy AI doesn’t select heroes/villains?…….oh hell naw

    • @Omnipotentkami
      @Omnipotentkami 3 місяці тому +3

      @user-wu4dq7il4w Nope. I was hoping they would whenever I have heroes on. Just like on the OG game for Xbox. Ironically even on the Xbox version to classic collection, they don't.

    • @darkcodemonkey4217
      @darkcodemonkey4217 3 місяці тому +3

      Yep, same. I want enemy AI heroes and I want the difficulty for Endor Hunt restored to the OG Xbox version. Without those fixes, there is literally no reason to play this over the modded originals.

  • @Miguel-jq6ol
    @Miguel-jq6ol 3 місяці тому +12

    I still don't get how a game like this gets rushed, it's a rerelease there's not really the pressure to hit any new console or competitor windows. While sure there's a gap in the market for a battlefront game there's no reason this was the "ideal" window to do so. Also hope they address the file size and some of the poor upscaling, that Bespin platforms skybox is abysmal. Honestly 1k or 2k would've been enough of an upgrade because the original textures are so low detail that 4k only makes it barely sharper and really just makes the artifacting more noticeable

    • @VITAS874
      @VITAS874 3 місяці тому +1

      EA greedy

    • @sylansylan4189
      @sylansylan4189 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@VITAS874 this wasn't EA. I think someone higher up in Aspyr decided to rush out an older build of the collection since they had a deadline to meet, thus we got the broken version of the Collection which was missing a lot of features.

    • @tunok3874
      @tunok3874 3 місяці тому

      especially since we know that Aspyr is extremely open to working with modders, someone with a big say had to have used that mod shown on the trailer on purpose@@sylansylan4189

    • @Xahnel
      @Xahnel 3 місяці тому +1

      Because manglement sees the popularity of Good BF2 and thinks "money printer goes brrr" and then they don't hear any brrring happening so they crack the whip and force the game to be released going "brrrr clunk brrr clunk" because they want money printer to go brrrr _now._

    • @VITAS874
      @VITAS874 3 місяці тому

      @@sylansylan4189 EA have all rights with SW games. Its they decision

  • @badboybubby5326
    @badboybubby5326 3 місяці тому +3

    Wow imagine if they just delayed the game a week or two and told them it was because they needed last minute repairs patches, what a different story we would have

  • @petergeddes6652
    @petergeddes6652 3 місяці тому +5

    The thing is even if the bugs are fixed im not entirely sure what this release is offering over the original versions that you can still buy. Slightly upscaled textured and multiplayer which is on par with the originals isnt quite enough to justify its existence imo

    • @scottb3034
      @scottb3034 3 місяці тому

      there are more reasons on console than PC. PC is essentially unneeded.

    • @Nobodyjbh14
      @Nobodyjbh14 3 місяці тому

      For PC imo it's mostly things like native controller support and not needing to use mods for some things. Really going to vary depending on people's situation and how much they like modding. With Consoles these games either weren't available on modern systems or weren't available with MP still so it's a bit more straight forward.

  • @MisterDutch93
    @MisterDutch93 3 місяці тому +8

    If this patch only took them 6 days, then why didn't they release the game just a little later?

    • @tsarven5674
      @tsarven5674 3 місяці тому +6

      Not up to the devs, timeline is dictated by publishers

    • @Palinghufter
      @Palinghufter 3 місяці тому +2

      Because geld

  • @OVERKILLxxPro
    @OVERKILLxxPro 3 місяці тому +15

    I love the irony that this patch is going through lots of verification before release on the consoles... but the game got released broken in the first place all the same. Great verification process, clearly!

    • @austinnapier8233
      @austinnapier8233 3 місяці тому +1

      I think they mean verification from the console manufacturers who have to approve all digital content releases to ensure they aren't malicious and comply with requirements.

    • @OVERKILLxxPro
      @OVERKILLxxPro 3 місяці тому

      @@austinnapier8233 Yes, we know.

    • @austinnapier8233
      @austinnapier8233 3 місяці тому

      @@OVERKILLxxProthen there is no irony, the current patch verification is not a quality verification process at all...

    • @Nobodyjbh14
      @Nobodyjbh14 3 місяці тому +1

      All they check I believe is the game isn't malware and doesn't break their TOS and the current age rating is still accurate. It's not QA testing.

    • @OVERKILLxxPro
      @OVERKILLxxPro 3 місяці тому

      @@austinnapier8233 No need to apologise, we are all wrong from time to time. A certification process implies they want to only allow quality products onto their service. However, a game that is broken got into the store in the first place. The irony lies between the two things. Happy to break it down further if you need more help.

  • @TrollsAreGonnaTroll
    @TrollsAreGonnaTroll 3 місяці тому +2

    Thankful for the classic collection reviving the original's servers! OG battlefront 2 has more players on servers, and NO LAG! Join us young Skywalker

  • @jervistetchMadHater
    @jervistetchMadHater 3 місяці тому +2

    The problem is that its way too late. Cause the playerbase is dropped abysmal and the refunds have flooded in so EA sees this as a sign that battlefront is doomed

  • @Starlit43
    @Starlit43 3 місяці тому +15

    For me battlefront 2 is still unplayable on steam. The lag is bad. The first game works fine. It’s just BF2

    • @kieronspiteri
      @kieronspiteri 3 місяці тому +5

      That's why there fixing it

    • @W0lfey
      @W0lfey 3 місяці тому

      If you are on steam just play the original BF2. The new one is just a cash grab with unnecessary bugs.

  • @Sabrinaionescu20
    @Sabrinaionescu20 3 місяці тому +20

    I would say its a good first step. Hopefully this is a stepping stone going forward of fixing what remains. I wouldn't say the classic collection is done for yet but maybe give them a chance to fix these issues and see what happens.

    • @Ghost996
      @Ghost996 3 місяці тому +4

      Well they'll have to pull a Halo Master Chief Collection then for people to forgive them

    • @Warshipgamers
      @Warshipgamers 3 місяці тому

      The game is dead on my region so too little too late

  • @TheHammerofDissidence
    @TheHammerofDissidence 3 місяці тому +11

    An just like that, gamer gold fish brain kicks in and everyone wants to play again.

    • @thebasketballpotato4829
      @thebasketballpotato4829 3 місяці тому +1

      “Goldfish brain” maybe people are going back to the game because there is an opportunity for fun to be had. What are fans just gonna boycott the game? “We will never ever play this game again because for the first few weeks the game wasn’t playable and was a disaster” like yes it was entirely a disaster at launch but this patch might be or might not be a good sign of things to come, also maybe they’re people who simply want to have fun? Don’t make fun of people who want to have fun, and besides wtf would boycotting the game do? “Oh these devs and these big companies will learn their lesson when I stopped playing a game I already bought” what do you expect? An apology? Good luck my friend, because even if everyone refunded the game, the big companies will simply move onto making or remaking or remastering another game, it’s one rerelease so I doubt the big companies in 2024 are sweating over the public reception of the rerelease of battlefront 2004 and 2005

    • @TheHammerofDissidence
      @TheHammerofDissidence 3 місяці тому

      @@thebasketballpotato4829 tl;dr

    • @thebasketballpotato4829
      @thebasketballpotato4829 3 місяці тому

      @@TheHammerofDissidence all good, just went on a tangent

    • @TheHammerofDissidence
      @TheHammerofDissidence 3 місяці тому

      @@thebasketballpotato4829 tl;dr

  • @NightOfBluRay
    @NightOfBluRay 3 місяці тому +29

    I hope they will make a second patch asap! 501. Cutscene's are important and also the huge graphics bug in BF2 Hoth Map.

    • @Sebastianthebluebird101
      @Sebastianthebluebird101 3 місяці тому +12

      AZZATRU confirmed the missing cutscenes are being added it just wasn’t in the patch notes

    • @THEBEAST-wi2pv
      @THEBEAST-wi2pv 3 місяці тому +1

      I tested it myself and yeah they work

    • @Sebastianthebluebird101
      @Sebastianthebluebird101 3 місяці тому

      Whoooo

    • @Sebastianthebluebird101
      @Sebastianthebluebird101 3 місяці тому +2

      @@THEBEAST-wi2pv are you on pc you or console i want to know if it has released on console

    • @scottb3034
      @scottb3034 3 місяці тому

      @@Sebastianthebluebird101console has a week or 2 delay because Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft requires game patches to be approved by the company before they will allow them to be made available for a game (and was mentioned in this video).
      Basically that means Aspyr sent the patch to Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft, they then review the patch and if they approve it will be made available for consoles to download. It typically takes a few weeks....so expect it by April latest.

  • @yoavmor9002
    @yoavmor9002 3 місяці тому +21

    10:32 and this bug still isn't fixed?
    This game is still broken

    • @Perceval777
      @Perceval777 3 місяці тому

      Yeah, that horrendous shaking screen glitch actually made me feel sick a few days ago.

  • @kenobieost5476
    @kenobieost5476 3 місяці тому +1

    Vader being yeeted around the area w a rocket launcher is the funniest shit to me

  • @InhabitantOfOddworld
    @InhabitantOfOddworld 3 місяці тому +6

    7:45
    Attention! Sergeant on deck

  • @liamcullen3035
    @liamcullen3035 3 місяці тому +3

    Glad to hear they’re actually fixing this mess. I’ll wait a bit longer before I consider purchasing it, but I am relieved to hear it’s not been left for dead.

  • @ThrawnFett123
    @ThrawnFett123 3 місяці тому +2

    If this was the game that released last week, I think a lot of people would have been giving them the benefit of the doubt for the remaining bugs. The problem is its not the game they released, it's another example of a company just doing a smash and grab broken game they'll try to patch into just enough mediocrity to stop the deluge of refunds.
    I can't for the life of me figure out WHY though. They didn't even announce this until like a month ago. They clearly could get it to THIS state with an extra couple of weeks. Why announce and launch a game in 3 weeks when 5 gets you to an at least PLAYABLE version? Instead they burned their own game and the community for what could have been a slamdunk nostalgia sale

  • @hecticgamer98
    @hecticgamer98 3 місяці тому +17

    Great video man, don’t give up hope on the Star Wars gaming community. We love your content regardless of how bad the games are!

  • @AlwaysVotingMAGA
    @AlwaysVotingMAGA 3 місяці тому +3

    Now with this broken unplayable game we can finally have some Star Wars Battlefront updates again for the first time in 4 years!😊👍🏻

  • @drbangrim4205
    @drbangrim4205 3 місяці тому +2

    The most major issue was the BF1 loading screen sounding different

  • @AlwaysVotingMAGA
    @AlwaysVotingMAGA 3 місяці тому +2

    I know you're on PC but can't believe you never mentioned the terrible aim sensitivity on consoles even at the maximum 10 sensitivity, it's extremely slow.

  • @MichaelAres
    @MichaelAres 3 місяці тому +23

    I'll probably purchase this once the second round of updates comes in! I'm glad they are communicating that they're working on things so fast.

  • @MrKOLCOO
    @MrKOLCOO 3 місяці тому +2

    Video games comapnies should be held to higher standard, when was the last time some major company released big game that wasn't unplayable on launch?

  • @SteveTheVloger
    @SteveTheVloger 3 місяці тому +9

    Why on earth did they not just delay it a couple weeks???? This is great, but the damage is done sadly

  • @kosta1987
    @kosta1987 3 місяці тому +3

    There’s still some issues that need to be addressed such as when you’re playing space Hoth if you look at the planet there’s a bunch of squares.

  • @AlwaysVotingMAGA
    @AlwaysVotingMAGA 3 місяці тому +2

    What about the crazy spinning after death, terribly slow aim sensitivity even at 10 & the extremely loud audio glitches that make people go deaf?

  • @ImOlegnaOrg
    @ImOlegnaOrg 3 місяці тому +8

    Aspyr's thought process:
    "Hey, Star wars is popular. Hey, that Star wars mod is popular. Let's add it to our game, and take credit for it."

    • @thebasketballpotato4829
      @thebasketballpotato4829 3 місяці тому

      Lmao I love your comment, here let me add to it.
      Your thought process:
      “Hey that game that I called low effort and bad, let’s buy it immediately!”
      The original modder who they got it off of didn’t give a toss that they borrowed his mod for the rerelease

  • @chickenpotpieare3things
    @chickenpotpieare3things 3 місяці тому +1

    They still screwed themselves. More expensive, HUGE file size, and they released it unfinished, and you KNOW they already knew what was wrong

  • @jaxlehmkuhle1677
    @jaxlehmkuhle1677 3 місяці тому +2

    What about the bf1 audio. Idk if it’s my sound settings for the game, but sounds that should be infront of me I hear behind me

  • @dpray96
    @dpray96 3 місяці тому +1

    You'd think these companies would do a server tech test as a private beta to gauge issues and server problems.
    Then again if they were to do that people would get to see what the game will be like on launch giving a easier chance to cancel pre-orders on platforms like Nintendo known for their anti-refund policies.

  • @luminaura3000
    @luminaura3000 3 місяці тому +1

    So tired of companies releasing unfinished games, they get review bombed to hell and they panic fix their garbage and say sorry. How about you playtest, fix before release so you don't even have to deal with the backlash... smooth brain companies don't deserve your money. This is a money grab, nothing more, They took a game they knew people wanted bad and gave us a shit covered cupcake with sprinkles.

  • @LordExor
    @LordExor 3 місяці тому +1

    This mess really sucks, not for how broken the games were on release, but because they squandered the one chance we had for a healthy playerbase, even a temporary one. Now that the hype has been replaced with anger, refunds, and dozens of news articles/UA-cam videos, there's next to no chance of that happening, no matter how many patches they release.

    • @user-wu4dq7il4w
      @user-wu4dq7il4w 3 місяці тому

      My thoughts exactly…I thought we were gonna have old heads and newbies alike; at least for a time.
      Every server is pretty much 1-2 maybe 3-4 people. Legit couldn’t have died faster if you *tried*

  • @soulmare333
    @soulmare333 3 місяці тому +2

    Honestly, as much as they could have delayed the game a bit, im glad I didn't refund the game... I kinda felt like a should have, but hearing about these simple changes has me feeling better about holding on a little longer before saying I regret buying the game.

  • @stephenheath5893
    @stephenheath5893 3 місяці тому +1

    I still see that the flickering on the resporn bug is still present. That needs fixing badly

  • @Vtee1
    @Vtee1 3 місяці тому +3

    Did they fix the screen glitching out when u get killed?

  • @ComeHonor6
    @ComeHonor6 3 місяці тому +1

    They need to fix the movement of your character after you get force pushed. Such a delay when you get up. You have to get lucky to escape it

  • @chrisreilly1290
    @chrisreilly1290 3 місяці тому +2

    I've had nothing but fun, even with the occasional glitch. I'm on Xbox and didn't run into nearly as many glitches as ppl have been talking about

  • @OdinTheUniverseTraveler2003
    @OdinTheUniverseTraveler2003 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm happy with the update as well. I was one who liked it before the patch. It relieves me that now that they put their work into it and gave us what we wanted. There is a light of hope for this game now. If it continues too update like this. Then things will get better for this collection. Another update is confirmed. That means they are still working on it. If that's the case. Maybe the refunds will stop and the reception will get better. Maybe even people who already have refunded the game will buy it again. Only time will tell.

  • @Dr.RojoMcDelly
    @Dr.RojoMcDelly 3 місяці тому +1

    They must’ve been working on this for some time. It’s almost like people don’t realize that devs have deadlines to meet and the game releasing broken isn’t there fault it’s the higher ups who dictate when it comes out ready or not.

  • @laurelioelchido5819
    @laurelioelchido5819 3 місяці тому +2

    Good news, I was waiting for the campaign cutscenes to be complete since that was my major issue, hope they release the patch on Xbox asap since there is where I am playing

  • @SonicBKM
    @SonicBKM 3 місяці тому +3

    I tried refunding the game after seeing the state it’s in, but playstation networks agents kept talking about how they would update the game in the future. This still doesn’t change the fact they released it like it is and it’s just a pain that I can’t get a refund for this game.

    • @DOOMED166
      @DOOMED166 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah cause consoles have terms and conditions when you buy a game it's done done

    • @diekrassekresse852
      @diekrassekresse852 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DOOMED166 Xbox usually lets you refund games when played less than 2 hours.

    • @DOOMED166
      @DOOMED166 3 місяці тому

      @@diekrassekresse852 really that's a thing I never knew how

    • @kaijualphagodzilla1238
      @kaijualphagodzilla1238 3 місяці тому

      @@DOOMED166 When I refunded the game in Xbox I got confirmation and exception for my refund literally just a minute after requesting the refund. To refund on Xbox you have to have less then 2 hours of playtime and have owned the game for less than 2 weeks. Over 2 weeks than you are less likely for a refund.

    • @DOOMED166
      @DOOMED166 3 місяці тому

      @kaijualphagodzilla1238 ohhh but like where do I go to refund it like is it on the xbox store or is it on a website

  • @xadek821
    @xadek821 3 місяці тому +1

    I just want to know how did they manage to create so many bugs that were not present in the previous versions. I hope they restore 4 player splitsceen and crossplay, maybe even steam workshop support

  • @ChainsThePunk
    @ChainsThePunk 3 місяці тому +2

    Quick answer.....no. BF2 still crashes while searching for matches

  • @RashataanVuul
    @RashataanVuul 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm surprised no one is talking about how the victory/defeat music in BF2 is pitched down compared to the original

    • @user-wu4dq7il4w
      @user-wu4dq7il4w 3 місяці тому +1

      No one has made it that far without crashing

  • @i-moth1629
    @i-moth1629 3 місяці тому +2

    fingers crossed they add new content for these classic gems. At the very least, add workshop support

  • @KrypticElement
    @KrypticElement 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for covering this Elliot! Installing the update on Steam now

  • @cellshade87
    @cellshade87 3 місяці тому +1

    I don't know about consoles but on PC is anyone else have trouble selecting weapons and grenades with the mouse wheel online only? It works fine in single player but multiplayer online the weapons won't change. It only changes sometimes like it's a gamble so I had to change the weapon selections to keys. It works better but still a strange delay.
    I can't get my ships to turn properly either. The turns are so slow.

  • @OGFarino
    @OGFarino 3 місяці тому +6

    Yeah I refunded and I'm not buying again until I hear that they fixed the glitchy freezes with turning. It was awful when I was playing on bespin and would try to run around a corner or peek around the bridge corners and suddenly couldn't move at all for seconds at a time. It happened constantly.

    • @motofevermedia1
      @motofevermedia1 3 місяці тому +1

      This doesn't seem to be an issue any more. Game is running smooth for me offline and online

  • @GooblyWoobly69
    @GooblyWoobly69 3 місяці тому +4

    Ridiculous file size

  • @Jmcinally94
    @Jmcinally94 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm not surprised they didnt mention they were working on an update until it was dropping. It doesnt look good to admit you released an unfinished game and already had people working on fixes seemingly before it even came out 😂

  • @Softcopath
    @Softcopath 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm happy to see all these fixes and changes since I was proper depressed about the launch, but was hesitant to refund.
    Just one tiny question, am I the only one who can't roll in BF1? I know I used to in the original, but I can't even seem to find the setting for it, in the Collection

  • @natskar
    @natskar 3 місяці тому +1

    Good to see they fixed a lot of this stuff, but I still don't understand why they did any of this to begin with...we already had these games and they could've put their focus on a new battlefront game. In the LEAST they could've just re-released the same game with the online function like what the modders did and polished that. But they didn't. They done did fcked it up all over again. Why...

  • @HAFBeast91
    @HAFBeast91 3 місяці тому +1

    The problem now is that hardly nobody plays it anymore.

  • @Rezzapee
    @Rezzapee 3 місяці тому +1

    They fixed everything that was bugging me, only thing I wish they would fix now is the missing starfighters on the Naboo plains map for battlefront 1

  • @patpatboy2
    @patpatboy2 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm so glad they fixed a ton of stuff in this patch! I wasn't expecting them to bother, and it does suck that it launched so broken, but it's exciting to see Battlefront Classic Collection getting active development and updates!

  • @NikoQerry
    @NikoQerry 3 місяці тому +1

    Wait... If the update is 15gb... Does that mean the classic collection is almost as large as Battlefront 2?!

  • @JarisJ_
    @JarisJ_ 3 місяці тому +1

    8:03 I can confirm that the music bug doesn’t happen all the time so you probably need a few hours of Play thruogh to know if you’re sure

  • @willwunsche6940
    @willwunsche6940 3 місяці тому +1

    They could've contracted some modders to help serve as a minor advisory role for when the ask questions and the launch would've gone so much better. No one understands the game better besides maybe some of the dissolved Pandemic studio developers that originally made it if they still remember their old work.

  • @twobrotherscycleanda
    @twobrotherscycleanda 3 місяці тому +1

    I know that the original code of the game the enemy AI almost never used a hero and I'd love to see them fix that.
    Edit: Battlefront 2

  • @Perceval777
    @Perceval777 3 місяці тому

    It's good that we got the settings for the Starfighter movement, now we need the Reticule Transparency option back too.

  • @zawarudo8991
    @zawarudo8991 3 місяці тому +1

    HOW???
    A 15 GB Update?????
    The update itself is bigger than the og games combined?
    I always thought a battlefront port would be a dream come true, but it‘s a disaster.
    Welp, booting up me ol ps2 then…

  • @Chris_Tootoo
    @Chris_Tootoo 3 місяці тому +1

    I’ll just stick with Planetside 2 for now. Until this stuff gets worked on and fixed I’ll just stick to Consoleside and just enjoy an actual open world shooter.

  • @renlock539
    @renlock539 3 місяці тому +2

    on steam if you refund the game, you now longer get the discount for owning the og battlefront 1 or 2 lmaooo

  • @Digger318
    @Digger318 3 місяці тому +2

    Consoles wait for a sale
    PC, just get the old version and install the mods to make it 100 times better

  • @Relevus
    @Relevus 3 місяці тому +1

    15gb update a few days after release? Yea, they knew the game was gonna be trash on release and they were already working on the fix.
    They knowingly released a broken game, maybe they thought they could get the patch out day one, but either way they knew. They knowingly scammed customers, they knowingly released a broken game.

  • @Rare_Aivila
    @Rare_Aivila 3 місяці тому

    me and my friend were playing the collection a few hours ago only thing i noticed (so far) is that on BF2 when we tried to load a game and then change settings while in game it would crash when we were on BF1 every now and then we would have a very very loud crackling and random noises.

    • @Rare_Aivila
      @Rare_Aivila 3 місяці тому

      this was all split screen by the way

  • @ch1mera302
    @ch1mera302 3 місяці тому +1

    honestly it was pretty cool they announced the game so near the release, however i would have much MUCH preferred them keep this in the oven for at least a few more weeks to iron out this stuff.

  • @nerdeehippie8506
    @nerdeehippie8506 3 місяці тому +1

    When are businesses going to learn that releasing games that's broken is why they don't do well?? 🤦

  • @bboy7531
    @bboy7531 3 місяці тому +1

    The audio ques and channels being reversed was very disorienting and confusing. That was a big issue for me. Glad it's fixed, although it shouldn't have been messed up in the first place.

  • @joshuafleming5380
    @joshuafleming5380 3 місяці тому +1

    Can anyone make private games on Battlefront 2? I'm on Playstation 5 and everytime I create a game and try to invite my friends it doesn't work, not sure if anyone else has had this issue.

  • @Join_the_sith
    @Join_the_sith 3 місяці тому +2

    Ruff launch but that’s alright this is the last battle front we gotta keep it alive

    • @user-wu4dq7il4w
      @user-wu4dq7il4w 3 місяці тому

      Lowkey get some influencers to play this and generate a teeny bit of hype once it’s ready. Could help quite a bit the more I think about it0

  • @jamiemarshall4738
    @jamiemarshall4738 3 місяці тому +1

    I just can't wait for the modding community to make their mods work for the classic collection once all the bugs are fixed. With it now running at 64bit I hope that the maximum modded maps are now increased from 500 maps so that I can install ultimate galactic conquest and not have to swap mod files between galactic civil war and clone wars

  • @wkostreski
    @wkostreski 3 місяці тому +1

    Dude if they added multiplaer galactic conquest IT WOULD BE FREAKING BUYABLE