The subscription fee for Omni One is necessary ONLY for online play. Offline gaming is available without any subscription. With an online subscription, you can share metrics, achieve goals, and compete with friends. Exciting updates are right around the corner!
Remove the subscription service entirely and i will consider buying one Its not about the fact of what you get or what your withholding with a subscription, it is the pure concept of it in itself Subscriptions need to die as they only serve to hurt the consumer I refuse to buy a product from a company, however "optional" the service may be Apple repair is "optional" Spotify is "optional" Amazon prime is "optional" But they are essentially required. If you catch my drift.
@@bazanime Currently, we are not. Our goal is for Omni One to offer a comprehensive, ready-to-use experience straight out of the box, which is why it comes bundled with our Pico4e headset, equipped with our custom software.
Well now i dont even wanna watch the video, tf is the point of it. Who in their right mind is paying a subscription on top of a already massive purchase, just get a katvr
@@wishbonethedog1108 you can use it just like a katvr. Maybe he just didn't explain it, but the sub IS NOT NEEDED. It's only needed if you want to engage the "plug & play" system they are setting up. The Omni is an oversized game controller. The difference is Katvr is the cheap rip off (literally, they're infrigingin on Omni's patents) and Omni is the real thing. The man himself says so at the end of the video, it's better than the katwalk.
So you expect them to keep updating the software, adding new games (while calabrating at testing the system for each game), and encourage developers and investors all for free? Don't want to pay it?. Don't. Use it for PCVR.
@@Beldan4why don't you start paying Nvidia monthly for their gpu driver update? Microsoft for their windows updates or your android /iphone for security updates?
@@Beldan4 ok, let see. I bought a VR headset. I know pay for games that I want to play. The head set developers still keep the software for the headset up today. I bought a computer with Windows 11pro and the I get the windows updates without paying a monthly fee. The thing is they are wanting to let you play any single player offline game for free but all of a sudden if you want to play with a friend online you magically need to pay a fee it has nothing to do with updating software it has to do with them trapping you
@@wiltonstrahan6345 what are people not understanding about this? You are buying hardware. They are not trapping you with anything. The sub is for the games the mod for the Omni, that's all. You want to use it for PCVR you don't have to pay them anything. The Omni One is basicly an oversized game contoller. If you think you can get it to work by yourself go ahead. They're even making an emulation software avaiable for you to do so. there's no armtwisting here. everyone is making this out to be something it isn't.
@@devajyotimazumdar3686You are trying to compare a mega-corperation with Ungodly amounts of income and profit margins to a start up company in the red. Even if that wasn't the case you're still ignoring what I said, Omni is a glorified game controller for your body. They'll even provide you with an emulator for PCVR. You don't like their sub system, don't pay it. It doesn't stop you from using their product.
Eh, Pico killed it for me. If they made it work with any stand-alone headset that would be better. I have a katvr and love it. I'd think about upgrading if they made it work with other headsets.
I fully agree, but every time I've seen this prior it looked like a quest 2 with a different faceplate. At least the pico has eye & face giving it a singular use, but even then I would much rather a headset that doesn't steel user data worse than meta (which is somehow possible)
As I replied to someone else. The Pico is not something they want it tied it, it was the only one willing to work with them. They are overwriting the OS of the Pico to install their own. No other stand alone headset manufuacter (see meta) will LET them do that. They'd love to have meta on board, they just don't wana play.
@@BurgundyBrundley not bad timing. Preparing is not "doing" when it happens it happens. not before. we all should know this. Also, the OS isn't a system BIOS. Lastly, you're gossing over the sheer amount of effort it would take to calibrate EACH game to the O1 "to perfection or close to it". They would need the developers of the games to be on board. They're not going to be for free.
So you expect them to keep updating the software, adding new games (while calabrating at testing the system for each game), and encourage developers and investors all for free? Don't want to pay it?. Don't. Use it for PCVR.
@@Beldan4ahh I see another comment from you. Great I can break down each point. Updating software is part of R&D. Part of deciding an initial cost of a product is to have an idea of how long the service life will be. Then including that service life In the cost. Games? Well games cost money. As stated in the video you would need it from the store to be able to play it. For the attracting game studios you do that by having a product that is easy to prepare and will increase their revenue by having people rebuy the game. Attracting investors. Ahh that's the real reason they want money.investors want money and so do companies.
Do they have a treadmill like this for the quest 2 /Quest 3? I haven't had any luck finding anything on Amazon so I thought you might know. Something I've been curious about for a while. Honestly I figured this rig was going to be about 6 grand American where it comes with the VR equipment not just the treadmill itself.
@@peterparker6584 actually there's one for the quest that goes for $900 sometimes. It's not super simple plug and play though, it requires some tinkering. The Kat C2+ I believe is the model I have.
@@jaybratt Was hoping it would have been on Amazon. As expression goes devil you know. Most of the stuff I get from Amazon or Ali Baba Express. Usually I have less issues when I'm dealing with Amazon.Not a big fan of AliExpress but I've had pretty good luck with them.Thank you for letting me know. I guess it's where VR is not really been picked up the way you might expect that stuff like this isn't more common to find.
If the subscription was removed and if it was made just for PC games and without that peak, for 1700 dollars it would even be worth it, of course it's still an expensive technology that I'll only think about buying when it's cheaper and better.
@@nerddeku9675 I probably wouldn't go as far as to make it a more expensive katwalk alternative. I like the idea that they could offer it with a headset and included games, and dedicated integration, but that extra $900 is a LOT for a headset 90% of people buying one of these will barley use
That's to bad. If it also work with my Meta Quest devices and Steam, I would order one right now. They are limiting their number of costumers at that price point, true. But imo they are limiting themselves even more by not supporting the most popular headsets and gaming platform. Tbh if it did I would actually be willing to pay a little more for it.
You don't understand, they're not using Pico becuase they want to, they're using Pico becuase there isn't anouther option. It meta being unwilling to work with the company, not the other way around.
@@Beldan4or, and hear me out here, they could make it so it doesn't have to install an entire new operating system. They could make it like every other vr accessory, you sync it to the headset and thats it. It's their own fault they decided to do it that way, and nobody should expect meta to let them modify the OS.
I think one of the coolest possibilities for tech like this is to take the kind of armature that connects to the back, put one under each foot, and add some kind of motor or hydraulics to stop the foot from moving when it touches an object, like the ground. Force feedback for your feet, essentially. It would be expensive, take up lots of room, and you would need to be suspended off the ground, but it could be a lot better than any treadmill could be.
Still waiting for a good VR treadmill that works with the Quest 3, is a affordable, and doesn't have a monthly subscription. Really hopping the Free VRAIM shoes are good!
Dump the Peco, add Quest support and charge 2 grand. SOLD. No quest support most likely equals no buy for most VR users. This is DoA without quest support. BTW I am a PC VR user and a Quest user. Just saying. The quest dominates the market currently. Without quest support your potential customer base is cut by 75%
9:14 To be fair $2k is nothing for something like this and in the PCVR space it's not to bad considering a Pimax crystal isw half the cost and overall in XR you giot the likes of the vision pro which costs $1k more.
Okay, my biggest question is how is the turning in it? With Katwalk, you have 2 bars on either side of you, and with Ombi you have 1 bar connected to your back. So how does turning it it feel different from the Katwalks turning.
Imu trackers for foot movement? I know one method used is basically an optical mouse sensor in the shoes, be bigger and probably work better if you have the whole shoe to work with instead of a shoe pad. But I really hope they can be used as proper foot trackers
It's baffling how may people think this requires you use the pico headset and have a subscription. It comes with a pico headset. However it is possible to use other headsets with it via steam pc and the quest has a dev mode that works with 3rd party hardware. The subscription is only if you want /their/ games in online mode. Otherwise you can play single player or steam vr. Anyone who crys wah wah deal breaker is either too lazy, too illiterate, too troll, or all of the above.
If they wanna do monthly subs they'd be better off damn near giving them away and then telling people it's a monthly repayment system. Once you fully pay it off, paywall certain features that some people will continue to pay for. It's still an anti-consumer model but it'd move a larger volume of product.
So you expect them to keep updating the software, adding new games (while calabrating at testing the system for each game), and encourage developers and investors all for free? Don't want to pay it?. Don't. Use it for PCVR.
@@Beldan4 If they want investors then they should use the classical route for it rather than expecting consumers to foot their bills. The fact is that regardless of your feelings most consumers aren't going to touch their current model. I don't expect anything of them, I'm not making a purchase.
@@IgnoreMeImWrong ignore that dude, hes been commenting legit EVERYWHERE on this post, istg hes just the ceo or pr going in comments with the way he treats this company.
@@wishbonethedog1108 Well, if I could post once and know everyone saw it, i wouldn't need to waste my time. I'm not the CEO. At best I'm an investor, at worst I am someone with AD(H)D, OCD, Autism, Depression, who lives on disability in subsidized housing and has sold off everything he owns in the desprate hope that this device will in some way help motivate me out of the "couch potato gamer" lifestyle. So many people dissing this due to a sub without even giving a *logical* argument as to why it's bad annoys me. This isn't a company with the fiances to shake nations, its an indy in the red. If they can get an attractive revenue stream going things will change when said companies start eyeing it.
$14/month? That’s $168/year, to play a very limited amount of games. Xbox Live (now called “Game Pass Core”) is $60/year. 🙄AND you have to buy the games again even if you already own them
So you expect them to keep updating the software, adding new games (while calabrating at testing the system for each game), and encourage developers and investors all for free? Don't want to pay it?. Don't. Use it for PCVR.
That's the neat part, the slidemill itself is better, virtuix just doesn't realize that they are making a product for people that will buy a katwalk for a literal 1/3 the price
It does not matter how good your product is. Banish the thought of any form of subscription service, "optional" or not, and ill buy one. Otherwise my money is going to the first company that CAN
@@IINSPIR3DD They are not being greedy. Each new game has to be calibrated TO the machine. That means testing and calibration. It's wanting to play play games on your Xbox and playstation but only pay for it once and expect one company to pick up the tab for making sure all it works. Also they have to show their machine/platform can generate a profit so people will invest in it.
It's not TIED to it. You can use it for PCVR and they are working on an emulation software for consumers to allow for it. Also the reason it's tied to Pico is NOT THEIR FAULT, its the fault of the headset manufactures being unwilling to open their headsets to Omni One for manipulation.
@@Beldan4NOT TRUE, quest 3 developer mode is the easiest thing in the world to enable, and theyve ALWAYS allowed you to install 3rd party apps by switching on a setting
@@wishbonethedog1108 quest recently opened up the whole operating system for system intigrators. Most likely before this project started but with that in mind the next version could be targeted way better.
So you expect them to keep updating the software, adding new games (while calabrating at testing the system for each game), and encourage developers and investors all for free? Don't want to pay it?. Don't. Use it for PCVR.
@@xhappymasksalesmenx4092 That`s not what he said. He said you can use it for SteamVR games. The subscription is only for the ones you get on their store as they have to put in effort to make it work, which takes resources. For someone spending nearly $3000 on this thing, $280 for two years isn`t really an issue. If this was $1000 product with this subscription, it would be a different matter.
@@Beldan4 wasn't for free, the money they received for the product still consists of considerable enough profit margin. for example; most phones in the wild are 700 to 1200 usd when they cost a couple hundred at most to make. I didn't know that the labor at these places only got paid by sale of each single product..."all for free?" sarcasm right?
So you expect them to keep updating the software, adding new games (while calabrating at testing the system for each game), and encourage developers and investors all for free? Don't want to pay it?. Don't. Use it for PCVR.
@@Carnyzzle *nod* I understand. However, I'd rather have something that doesn't infringe on Omni's copyrights in the USA and is clearly a quality piece of hardware. That doesn't mean I'm not smarting over the price, but they do allow you to pay for it in monthly installments.
monthly subscription and not being able to easily hook it up with my quest 3 is an immediate turnoff id def consider it if it was compatible with other headsets and no subscription
They are creating their own emulation software so people can more easily hook it up for PCVR. name one other company that actually does that deliberately.
I know everyone said it but just to make sure they see it NOBODY WANTS TO PAY FOR SOMETHING YOU ALREADY BOUGHT. Sad these companies getting too greedy,this isnt something we should support because they will believe this is what we want when its the complete opposite
I just want the Omni one instead of the katwalk because it seems like a significantly better design, but the way they keep screaming their "dedicated ecosystem"; don't get me wrong, having an available headset with integrated compatibility with the extremely niece apparatus and an ecosystem designed specifically for it is beneficial, but 99% of people going to buy this already have 1-2 (or more) headsets that they want to use it with. And not everyone is willing to drop $2.6k (almost $3k after shipping) for 1/3 of that to be for a headset (with its own dedicated ecosystem that costs $14/month to play those incredibly small player base games online (the Omni one costs 3 times more than the katwalk, VR treadmills are pretty rare in VR, VR itself is quite uncommon; and most people even thinking about a buy like this are looking to use it with a headset they already have)) they're probably not going to use. I'm not trying to say it needs to drop the headset or the ecosystem (because of details like the integration), but offer a "slimmed down" version that doesn't include the headset at a cheaper price.
Omg I JUST finished listening to the audiobooks of Ready Player One and Two (read by Wil Wheaton, an absolute delight) and it was so fun to read them knowing how much closer we've come to that scenario in 13 years lol
Fundamentally, they just can't break the proper ground. To me it's still slipping around on a plastic disc with shoes coated with lube. Until it's an actual tactile moving belt, it just doesn't hold water for the price.
It doesnt look like a immersive walking at all. Lol as I tried to explain how this looks to me you perfectly describe it yourself. Yeah the pushing seems very akward. I bet you can get used to it... but nah.
I wonder though what the upgrade path for it is, if one exists at all. That's an awful lot of money to be stuck with a Pico 4 Enterprise permanently. I'd rather a VR treadmill that isn't headset-dependent, since the headset is going to become obsolete well before the treadmill would.
Your not stuck with the Pico 4. you can use it for PCVR. Also, the reason you can't use it with meta is due to Meta's refusal to work with them. Not the other way around.
My problems with this product (and no I am not hating on the company this is legit constructive criticism): -If this is oriented to the experienced VR user, they are already going to have their go to VR headset and would not want another when using with a VR threadmill (especially because of cost, money would just be sitting when a VR headset that is doing nothing) -Subscription, just no. I saw in a comment it was mentioned that it was specifically for multiplayer games and by extension for the software that runs all this; but I think that most people (including myself) don't see how a subscription for this is reasonable (maybe it is, but that has to be properly explained), TBH I don't think it is, especially with the going price of this device. -This should be made so it can be added to any platform to be used as a peripheral, such as being paired to a quest or being added as one of the devices in SteamVR to use in game. -i am not sure I am sold on how foot movement is translated to ingame movement (maybe I am miss interpreting it), but 2 sensors passing each to track movement sounds like it may have tracking issue with slower foot movement (sneaking in game).
Knowing this is a couple grand, has a subscription model and requires vr players to rebuy games, its a hard no and I own 3 vr headsets so I've put money into VR, they may stay afloat by companies like dave and busters but I hope they aren't banking on conusmers.
I really don't think this concept is it. They keep iterating on it, and I don't think any amount of improvements is going to make me want one because I think the concept itself is flawed.
that part you said about how it's more exhausting to slip and slide walk then it is to really walk...that seems like a big deal for longevity and immersion for this kind of device
Only available in the US. But I must say I probably would have bought it if it was available in Switzerland and I had the option of a monthly payment. It's a great product, I believe it will know some success but as many have mentioned in the comments the subscription for online games is getting heavy, with every company wanting to do it. They will have to explain the full benefits of the subscription ti potential clients. I ordered a Meta Quest 3 recently, I will see what accessories I feel are necessary or that I simply want, ounce I've tried it for a while.
Thanks a lot, Jay. I was waiting for your Katwalk review for a while but eventually I got the opportunity to try it out myself. I don't know if Omni is better, but I didn't like it at all. It being overly exerting as you said, but also since you gotta lean forward to get a good slide with your feet (dunno if Omni requires less of this) and also since most games don't show your feet it brought nearly no immersion to me. I loved the cat intervention with the "E!" hahaha.
And exactly where are you gonna put that monstrosity???? I’ll take VR mats and FreeAir shoes that won’t take up as much space; not even mentioning the high cost and monthly fee
If this was available for all VR headsets and not just the one it would make it so much better! And they would make so much more money also. I reckon they should work on creating something that will work with any VR and not have the monthly fee and all that. I’d think of getting one of they did that
What if in the future they can make a machine like the treadmill that can let you do all of that but without making you tired like your body feels the effects but your mind disconnects from the work out or have a low gravity Omni treadmill where it uses less energy for you to play
I feel like when the software is finished you'll be able to install it on any standalone headset or even on pc. I am looking forward to see where VR treadmills go.
Mad that we're getting closer & closer to actually being able to completely immerse ourselves in imagined worlds. I remember when this was completely science fiction.
You'd be forever replacing worn parts on top of subscription. If I could buy it use it, and not worry about wear and tear, it would be a a great addition to my VR gaming. Until that day comes I'll stick with controllers.
The subscription fee for Omni One is necessary ONLY for online play. Offline gaming is available without any subscription. With an online subscription, you can share metrics, achieve goals, and compete with friends. Exciting updates are right around the corner!
Online play through your system right? You can still do Online play through PCVR if you have the ability / understanding to do so correct?
@@Beldan4 correct!
Remove the subscription service entirely and i will consider buying one
Its not about the fact of what you get or what your withholding with a subscription, it is the pure concept of it in itself
Subscriptions need to die as they only serve to hurt the consumer
I refuse to buy a product from a company, however "optional" the service may be
Apple repair is "optional"
Spotify is "optional"
Amazon prime is "optional"
But they are essentially required. If you catch my drift.
Are you working on Quest support?
@@bazanime Currently, we are not. Our goal is for Omni One to offer a comprehensive, ready-to-use experience straight out of the box, which is why it comes bundled with our Pico4e headset, equipped with our custom software.
A subscription for a physical product I already bought is an immediate turn off.
we need to cancel this culture 100%
It's a scam in terms of physical media
Well now i dont even wanna watch the video, tf is the point of it. Who in their right mind is paying a subscription on top of a already massive purchase, just get a katvr
@@wishbonethedog1108 you can use it just like a katvr. Maybe he just didn't explain it, but the sub IS NOT NEEDED. It's only needed if you want to engage the "plug & play" system they are setting up. The Omni is an oversized game controller. The difference is Katvr is the cheap rip off (literally, they're infrigingin on Omni's patents) and Omni is the real thing. The man himself says so at the end of the video, it's better than the katwalk.
@@Beldan4 absolutely no company that even supports the idea deserves any of my money
Monthly payment killed it for me.
So you expect them to keep updating the software, adding new games (while calabrating at testing the system for each game), and encourage developers and investors all for free? Don't want to pay it?. Don't. Use it for PCVR.
@@Beldan4why don't you start paying Nvidia monthly for their gpu driver update? Microsoft for their windows updates or your android /iphone for security updates?
@@Beldan4 ok, let see. I bought a VR headset. I know pay for games that I want to play. The head set developers still keep the software for the headset up today. I bought a computer with Windows 11pro and the I get the windows updates without paying a monthly fee. The thing is they are wanting to let you play any single player offline game for free but all of a sudden if you want to play with a friend online you magically need to pay a fee it has nothing to do with updating software it has to do with them trapping you
@@wiltonstrahan6345 what are people not understanding about this? You are buying hardware. They are not trapping you with anything. The sub is for the games the mod for the Omni, that's all. You want to use it for PCVR you don't have to pay them anything. The Omni One is basicly an oversized game contoller. If you think you can get it to work by yourself go ahead. They're even making an emulation software avaiable for you to do so. there's no armtwisting here. everyone is making this out to be something it isn't.
@@devajyotimazumdar3686You are trying to compare a mega-corperation with Ungodly amounts of income and profit margins to a start up company in the red. Even if that wasn't the case you're still ignoring what I said, Omni is a glorified game controller for your body. They'll even provide you with an emulator for PCVR. You don't like their sub system, don't pay it. It doesn't stop you from using their product.
Eh, Pico killed it for me. If they made it work with any stand-alone headset that would be better. I have a katvr and love it. I'd think about upgrading if they made it work with other headsets.
I fully agree, but every time I've seen this prior it looked like a quest 2 with a different faceplate. At least the pico has eye & face giving it a singular use, but even then I would much rather a headset that doesn't steel user data worse than meta (which is somehow possible)
As I replied to someone else. The Pico is not something they want it tied it, it was the only one willing to work with them. They are overwriting the OS of the Pico to install their own. No other stand alone headset manufuacter (see meta) will LET them do that. They'd love to have meta on board, they just don't wana play.
@@Beldan4 so bitedance has nothing to do with the os? Beneficial.
@@Beldan4 bad timing of comments since meta is now preparing to make their OS open source.
@@BurgundyBrundley not bad timing. Preparing is not "doing" when it happens it happens. not before. we all should know this. Also, the OS isn't a system BIOS. Lastly, you're gossing over the sheer amount of effort it would take to calibrate EACH game to the O1 "to perfection or close to it". They would need the developers of the games to be on board. They're not going to be for free.
The kitty break! That interaction was incredibly cute!
Those arcade omnis were what got me into VR, but a subscription? Seriously?
So you expect them to keep updating the software, adding new games (while calabrating at testing the system for each game), and encourage developers and investors all for free? Don't want to pay it?. Don't. Use it for PCVR.
@@Beldan4ahh I see another comment from you. Great I can break down each point. Updating software is part of R&D. Part of deciding an initial cost of a product is to have an idea of how long the service life will be. Then including that service life In the cost.
Games? Well games cost money. As stated in the video you would need it from the store to be able to play it.
For the attracting game studios you do that by having a product that is easy to prepare and will increase their revenue by having people rebuy the game.
Attracting investors. Ahh that's the real reason they want money.investors want money and so do companies.
the cat conversation was really good I loved that
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@@Yodabutbetter you're never a bother 😊
Do they have a treadmill like this for the quest 2 /Quest 3? I haven't had any luck finding anything on Amazon so I thought you might know. Something I've been curious about for a while. Honestly I figured this rig was going to be about 6 grand American where it comes with the VR equipment not just the treadmill itself.
@@peterparker6584 actually there's one for the quest that goes for $900 sometimes. It's not super simple plug and play though, it requires some tinkering. The Kat C2+ I believe is the model I have.
@@jaybratt Was hoping it would have been on Amazon. As expression goes devil you know. Most of the stuff I get from Amazon or Ali Baba Express. Usually I have less issues when I'm dealing with Amazon.Not a big fan of AliExpress but I've had pretty good luck with them.Thank you for letting me know. I guess it's where VR is not really been picked up the way you might expect that stuff like this isn't more common to find.
A monthly fee as well? No sorry. It is a brilliant innovation but its higher price and a monthly fee on top of it.. I don't care how cheap it is. No.
If the subscription was removed and if it was made just for PC games and without that peak, for 1700 dollars it would even be worth it, of course it's still an expensive technology that I'll only think about buying when it's cheaper and better.
@@nerddeku9675 I probably wouldn't go as far as to make it a more expensive katwalk alternative. I like the idea that they could offer it with a headset and included games, and dedicated integration, but that extra $900 is a LOT for a headset 90% of people buying one of these will barley use
@@Beldan4why are you getting angry at everyone in this comment section for voicing their opinion? You seem like Omni’s CEO defending his cool thing.
That's to bad. If it also work with my Meta Quest devices and Steam, I would order one right now. They are limiting their number of costumers at that price point, true. But imo they are limiting themselves even more by not supporting the most popular headsets and gaming platform. Tbh if it did I would actually be willing to pay a little more for it.
You don't understand, they're not using Pico becuase they want to, they're using Pico becuase there isn't anouther option. It meta being unwilling to work with the company, not the other way around.
Meta is releasing their operating system tho...@@Beldan4
@@Beldan4or, and hear me out here, they could make it so it doesn't have to install an entire new operating system. They could make it like every other vr accessory, you sync it to the headset and thats it. It's their own fault they decided to do it that way, and nobody should expect meta to let them modify the OS.
I think one of the coolest possibilities for tech like this is to take the kind of armature that connects to the back, put one under each foot, and add some kind of motor or hydraulics to stop the foot from moving when it touches an object, like the ground. Force feedback for your feet, essentially. It would be expensive, take up lots of room, and you would need to be suspended off the ground, but it could be a lot better than any treadmill could be.
I'm frankly amazed at the (relatively) low cost of it - I'd expect it to be 2- to 3-times that much!
This sounds so cool. I am trying to imagine tech just ten years from now.
Still waiting for a good VR treadmill that works with the Quest 3, is a affordable, and doesn't have a monthly subscription. Really hopping the Free VRAIM shoes are good!
Complain to Meta then. They WANT to set it up on the Quest, it's meta being unwilling to play ball that's the problem.
Hey man, is it noisy? Would it be suitable for someone who lives on an apartment?
Kitties is cool!
Great video! Had so much fun out there.
The part where your cat paw'ed the door open. I understood every word.
They need to make it work with the Quest 2/3 as that's the biggest audience of gamers out there.
Ive tries the older ones before and they were quite hard work.
Dump the Peco, add Quest support and charge 2 grand. SOLD. No quest support most likely equals no buy for most VR users. This is DoA without quest support. BTW I am a PC VR user and a Quest user. Just saying. The quest dominates the market currently. Without quest support your potential customer base is cut by 75%
What charging dock do you recommend
9:14 To be fair $2k is nothing for something like this and in the PCVR space it's not to bad considering a Pimax crystal isw half the cost and overall in XR you giot the likes of the vision pro which costs $1k more.
8:00 Yeah, the price is something. But it is still cheaper than the Vision Pro 😀
Kitty!
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A KITTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for stopping by! It was a lot of fun to show you around our office and have you check out Omni One!
Hey awesome you stopped by!
I'll just wait until Disney puts out the floor tiles you can walk on
Cool!
On a building
Okay, my biggest question is how is the turning in it? With Katwalk, you have 2 bars on either side of you, and with Ombi you have 1 bar connected to your back. So how does turning it it feel different from the Katwalks turning.
foot trackers? VR hacky sack, when?!
Imu trackers for foot movement? I know one method used is basically an optical mouse sensor in the shoes, be bigger and probably work better if you have the whole shoe to work with instead of a shoe pad. But I really hope they can be used as proper foot trackers
Did anyone else see the dog in the thumbnail?
😂 I think most people missed Dogo
I wish they'd come up with another name to these slip surfaces other than "treadmill", cause these aren't treadmills.
It's baffling how may people think this requires you use the pico headset and have a subscription.
It comes with a pico headset. However it is possible to use other headsets with it via steam pc and the quest has a dev mode that works with 3rd party hardware. The subscription is only if you want /their/ games in online mode. Otherwise you can play single player or steam vr.
Anyone who crys wah wah deal breaker is either too lazy, too illiterate, too troll, or all of the above.
With this kind of setup, I don't see ANY reason why a haptic vest shouldn't be standard.
If they wanna do monthly subs they'd be better off damn near giving them away and then telling people it's a monthly repayment system. Once you fully pay it off, paywall certain features that some people will continue to pay for.
It's still an anti-consumer model but it'd move a larger volume of product.
So you expect them to keep updating the software, adding new games (while calabrating at testing the system for each game), and encourage developers and investors all for free? Don't want to pay it?. Don't. Use it for PCVR.
@@Beldan4 If they want investors then they should use the classical route for it rather than expecting consumers to foot their bills.
The fact is that regardless of your feelings most consumers aren't going to touch their current model.
I don't expect anything of them, I'm not making a purchase.
@@IgnoreMeImWrong ignore that dude, hes been commenting legit EVERYWHERE on this post, istg hes just the ceo or pr going in comments with the way he treats this company.
@@IgnoreMeImWrong it's a start up company in the red. stop comparing them to companies that have the finances greater than some nations.
@@wishbonethedog1108 Well, if I could post once and know everyone saw it, i wouldn't need to waste my time. I'm not the CEO. At best I'm an investor, at worst I am someone with AD(H)D, OCD, Autism, Depression, who lives on disability in subsidized housing and has sold off everything he owns in the desprate hope that this device will in some way help motivate me out of the "couch potato gamer" lifestyle. So many people dissing this due to a sub without even giving a *logical* argument as to why it's bad annoys me. This isn't a company with the fiances to shake nations, its an indy in the red. If they can get an attractive revenue stream going things will change when said companies start eyeing it.
$14/month? That’s $168/year, to play a very limited amount of games. Xbox Live (now called “Game Pass Core”) is $60/year. 🙄AND you have to buy the games again even if you already own them
I will stick with katwalk
All you guys had to do was remove the subscription part and people would happily buy it.
We need China to copy Disney moving floor. There is no other way we could get this to our houses.
Were getting closer and closet to a new Matrix...
The Oasis from Ready Player One.
Serious? Just let me buy it so I can play on my quest
L. Sub is garbage deal.
So you expect them to keep updating the software, adding new games (while calabrating at testing the system for each game), and encourage developers and investors all for free? Don't want to pay it?. Don't. Use it for PCVR.
How is this next gen when it isnt better than katwalk vr.
That's the neat part, the slidemill itself is better, virtuix just doesn't realize that they are making a product for people that will buy a katwalk for a literal 1/3 the price
It does not matter how good your product is.
Banish the thought of any form of subscription service, "optional" or not, and ill buy one.
Otherwise my money is going to the first company that CAN
Still look awkward af
Holo
Disliked the video not because of you Jay but because of the product
Awwww. Yeah it's not cheap or as approachable as I'd like to see so I understand.
We dont want to support monthly subscriptions
@@rickyneeter69 exactly they're just being greedy
@@IINSPIR3DD They are not being greedy. Each new game has to be calibrated TO the machine. That means testing and calibration. It's wanting to play play games on your Xbox and playstation but only pay for it once and expect one company to pick up the tab for making sure all it works. Also they have to show their machine/platform can generate a profit so people will invest in it.
To be honest, I think this looks shite.
Being tied to a Pico VR headset and the subscription are deal breakers IMO.
It's not TIED to it. You can use it for PCVR and they are working on an emulation software for consumers to allow for it. Also the reason it's tied to Pico is NOT THEIR FAULT, its the fault of the headset manufactures being unwilling to open their headsets to Omni One for manipulation.
@@Beldan4NOT TRUE, quest 3 developer mode is the easiest thing in the world to enable, and theyve ALWAYS allowed you to install 3rd party apps by switching on a setting
@@wishbonethedog1108 quest recently opened up the whole operating system for system intigrators. Most likely before this project started but with that in mind the next version could be targeted way better.
@@Beldan4CAP
A subscription is a hard no.
So you expect them to keep updating the software, adding new games (while calabrating at testing the system for each game), and encourage developers and investors all for free? Don't want to pay it?. Don't. Use it for PCVR.
@@Beldan4 imagine if you bought a GPU and needed a subscription. That's what you're saying
Imagine buying a phone and paying a subscription, that is exactly what your saying, except a phone can do 10x more than this treadmill@@Beldan4
@@xhappymasksalesmenx4092 That`s not what he said. He said you can use it for SteamVR games. The subscription is only for the ones you get on their store as they have to put in effort to make it work, which takes resources. For someone spending nearly $3000 on this thing, $280 for two years isn`t really an issue. If this was $1000 product with this subscription, it would be a different matter.
@@Beldan4 wasn't for free, the money they received for the product still consists of considerable enough profit margin. for example; most phones in the wild are 700 to 1200 usd when they cost a couple hundred at most to make. I didn't know that the labor at these places only got paid by sale of each single product..."all for free?" sarcasm right?
Monthly fee is an immediate no thanks
So you expect them to keep updating the software, adding new games (while calabrating at testing the system for each game), and encourage developers and investors all for free? Don't want to pay it?. Don't. Use it for PCVR.
@@Beldan4 no I don't want to pay it soo I'd rather get a katwalk
@@Carnyzzle *nod* I understand. However, I'd rather have something that doesn't infringe on Omni's copyrights in the USA and is clearly a quality piece of hardware. That doesn't mean I'm not smarting over the price, but they do allow you to pay for it in monthly installments.
monthly subscription and not being able to easily hook it up with my quest 3 is an immediate turnoff id def consider it if it was compatible with other headsets and no subscription
They are creating their own emulation software so people can more easily hook it up for PCVR. name one other company that actually does that deliberately.
I'll just wait untill Free Aim VR shoes will become available.. motorized shoes that you wear, no bulky treadmill you have to dedicate space for it..
Huh? Isn't the entire point of the treadmill to keep you in place?
@@ODST626 Yes, but where are you gonna store that treadmill if you don't have much space?
@@KayoMichielshow does shoes work? if you don't have enough space for the treadmill how do you have enough space to walk around?
I know everyone said it but just to make sure they see it NOBODY WANTS TO PAY FOR SOMETHING YOU ALREADY BOUGHT. Sad these companies getting too greedy,this isnt something we should support because they will believe this is what we want when its the complete opposite
@@Beldan4 Paying for a subscription after paying for something is the dumbest trend in the video game industry.
3:20 Kitty break! So cute!
Needs more of them! 😸
I just want the Omni one instead of the katwalk because it seems like a significantly better design, but the way they keep screaming their "dedicated ecosystem"; don't get me wrong, having an available headset with integrated compatibility with the extremely niece apparatus and an ecosystem designed specifically for it is beneficial, but 99% of people going to buy this already have 1-2 (or more) headsets that they want to use it with. And not everyone is willing to drop $2.6k (almost $3k after shipping) for 1/3 of that to be for a headset (with its own dedicated ecosystem that costs $14/month to play those incredibly small player base games online (the Omni one costs 3 times more than the katwalk, VR treadmills are pretty rare in VR, VR itself is quite uncommon; and most people even thinking about a buy like this are looking to use it with a headset they already have)) they're probably not going to use. I'm not trying to say it needs to drop the headset or the ecosystem (because of details like the integration), but offer a "slimmed down" version that doesn't include the headset at a cheaper price.
Wait, tied to Pico? 🎵H^ll to the naw. To the naw, naw naw. Hell to the naw. 🎵
Naw, naw, naaaaaawwww 😂
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No.
Yes
Omg I JUST finished listening to the audiobooks of Ready Player One and Two (read by Wil Wheaton, an absolute delight) and it was so fun to read them knowing how much closer we've come to that scenario in 13 years lol
I tried to listen to Ready Player One, loved the move. Virtuix made the Omni directional treadmill for the movie!
Hwill Hweaton
@@Atlas_Fox-7just read the book, trust me. I tried listening to it and it's so hard to understand someyimes if you aren't looking at the words.
And just think in the next few years you’re going to be in the game literally
Fundamentally, they just can't break the proper ground. To me it's still slipping around on a plastic disc with shoes coated with lube. Until it's an actual tactile moving belt, it just doesn't hold water for the price.
It doesnt look like a immersive walking at all.
Lol as I tried to explain how this looks to me you perfectly describe it yourself.
Yeah the pushing seems very akward.
I bet you can get used to it... but nah.
I wonder though what the upgrade path for it is, if one exists at all. That's an awful lot of money to be stuck with a Pico 4 Enterprise permanently. I'd rather a VR treadmill that isn't headset-dependent, since the headset is going to become obsolete well before the treadmill would.
You can use it with PCVR
Your not stuck with the Pico 4. you can use it for PCVR. Also, the reason you can't use it with meta is due to Meta's refusal to work with them. Not the other way around.
As long as you have to slide I dont think its worth it. Doesnt feel realistic at all
I womder how these would fair with a lomg legged 6 foot 3 bloke. Will i walk off the edge??
Cool!
My problems with this product (and no I am not hating on the company this is legit constructive criticism):
-If this is oriented to the experienced VR user, they are already going to have their go to VR headset and would not want another when using with a VR threadmill (especially because of cost, money would just be sitting when a VR headset that is doing nothing)
-Subscription, just no. I saw in a comment it was mentioned that it was specifically for multiplayer games and by extension for the software that runs all this; but I think that most people (including myself) don't see how a subscription for this is reasonable (maybe it is, but that has to be properly explained), TBH I don't think it is, especially with the going price of this device.
-This should be made so it can be added to any platform to be used as a peripheral, such as being paired to a quest or being added as one of the devices in SteamVR to use in game.
-i am not sure I am sold on how foot movement is translated to ingame movement (maybe I am miss interpreting it), but 2 sensors passing each to track movement sounds like it may have tracking issue with slower foot movement (sneaking in game).
Knowing this is a couple grand, has a subscription model and requires vr players to rebuy games, its a hard no and I own 3 vr headsets so I've put money into VR, they may stay afloat by companies like dave and busters but I hope they aren't banking on conusmers.
I know technology is really expensive but damn, monthly price, huge price for the treadmill/headset, have to rebuy the games... ooof
I really don't think this concept is it. They keep iterating on it, and I don't think any amount of improvements is going to make me want one because I think the concept itself is flawed.
that part you said about how it's more exhausting to slip and slide walk then it is to really walk...that seems like a big deal for longevity and immersion for this kind of device
Definetly do not want to be tied to a Pico Headset or subscription. Cool idea otherwise.
Speaking of directions I miss deca hub could use your phone to keep walking forward using your hips it was awesome but got shut down 😢
250 lbs minimum. For small cavemen only. Hopefully they come out with one for us big guys
Ikagien bringing a lady home and trying to explain this thing.
bet its hella loud
Kinda silly they it’s only for that VR and not every brand of vr
I monthly fee to play online yeah that's a no from me.
Subscription!? Ya bye..
Damn!!!
Thumbs up for the cat!
Freeaim vr is 100% better
you could do with one
Only available in the US. But I must say I probably would have bought it if it was available in Switzerland and I had the option of a monthly payment. It's a great product, I believe it will know some success but as many have mentioned in the comments the subscription for online games is getting heavy, with every company wanting to do it. They will have to explain the full benefits of the subscription ti potential clients. I ordered a Meta Quest 3 recently, I will see what accessories I feel are necessary or that I simply want, ounce I've tried it for a while.
Thanks a lot, Jay. I was waiting for your Katwalk review for a while but eventually I got the opportunity to try it out myself. I don't know if Omni is better, but I didn't like it at all. It being overly exerting as you said, but also since you gotta lean forward to get a good slide with your feet (dunno if Omni requires less of this) and also since most games don't show your feet it brought nearly no immersion to me.
I loved the cat intervention with the "E!" hahaha.
That room of people simultaneously using the things looks absolutely preposterous lool
And exactly where are you gonna put that monstrosity???? I’ll take VR mats and FreeAir shoes that won’t take up as much space; not even mentioning the high cost and monthly fee
If this was available for all VR headsets and not just the one it would make it so much better! And they would make so much more money also. I reckon they should work on creating something that will work with any VR and not have the monthly fee and all that. I’d think of getting one of they did that
So this entire setup, and one year of their subscription service (blegh) is still over $700 CHEAPER than the apple vision... This VR market is wild.
What if in the future they can make a machine like the treadmill that can let you do all of that but without making you tired like your body feels the effects but your mind disconnects from the work out or have a low gravity Omni treadmill where it uses less energy for you to play
I feel like when the software is finished you'll be able to install it on any standalone headset or even on pc. I am looking forward to see where VR treadmills go.
Just imagining the price
they have a pay monthly plan.
Can't wait to see if razer facial interface is somehow worth $85 🙏
After disney’s flat treadmill concept this is ancient tech imo. Added subscription on top of it and I dont even care about this company no more…
ya, but you can't run on disney's treadmill.
@@Beldan4 u dont want to run in VR outside of fitness. Having a longer stride however that could be a temporary solution.
@@filipivan5125I would want to run on it for shooter as well...
Looks fun in summer with no aircon!
I don’t see wanting to run in VR, anymore so than I want to go out for a jog in real life.
But to each their own.
I prefer my chair
Mad that we're getting closer & closer to actually being able to completely immerse ourselves in imagined worlds. I remember when this was completely science fiction.
You'd be forever replacing worn parts on top of subscription. If I could buy it use it, and not worry about wear and tear, it would be a a great addition to my VR gaming. Until that day comes I'll stick with controllers.