Most pre-production models actually helps buyers and or testers to look over the design, build quality or any other manufacturing processes that needs to be confirmed before large-scale production begins. And thanks to you Ecoflow was able to see it.
True craftsmen will always care about the colors of the wiring. Some one might be doing work on the unit and get injured due to relying the wire coloring. The coloring of wires is governed by regulation...it serves an actual purpose....primarily personel protection.
@@uhjyuff2095 that is a poor substitute to not using the correct wiring colors. As a former electrician I often phase colored wiring with colored tape when all wires were black in color. But having to color tape wiring that was completely wrong was not considered an option.
@@johntingle455 I am also an electrician. An example of wrong color coded wires would be a home run using a cable to a 240 volt appliance. There is no sense in using a 4 wire cable with the correct color wires over using a 3 wire cable with the wrong color coded wires. I am not saying that ecoflow used cables inside their unit, but this would be similar to opening a junction box and seeing the wires from a cable that I installed with electrical tape on the ends.
Thanks to a skill frame I was able to read the number of the fan and find out it is a 80mm fan 3 prong connector. If this is way loud I will already know the right fan to purchase and swap all 4 of them out if needed. Thanks for the good video.
Jehu you should show how to hook up the split phase product to your panel when they send to you. This would be beneficial to those of us who don't want to pay electrician if we get these products. Of course anyone doing this should be savvy with electrical wiring.
I love DIY .. but TBH, I'm just not smart enough with electronics to take the risk. I have been looking at these all-in-one units for over a year, because I want people smarter than me to design and build what I use. I settled on EcoFlow because of the reviews you and other UA-camrs have provided. So thank you VERY much!!!
Do you find it at all amazing how much influence you ended up having that companies are affected and act according to your vids?…and how far you come in the last years…been following for a long time. Great job…keep’er goin’
My Costco-purchased (Dec 2021) DP has the TT-30 polarity problem. I contacted EF and they said all of the Costco-channel DPs were wired incorrectly and they are working on a remediation.
Hey jehu! I would love if you made an insane ebike with 2 hub motors. Another video on the ebike for testing would be greatly appreciated! Congrats on 400k I can't wait to see what you have planned next!!!!😎😎😎
Also there’s no change in the inverter required to swap L and N. There may be one required for the UPS function and split phase bonding. Check the AC charging input port on the back.I have some inside info I can’t share yet but hopefully soon.
It's a good thing that Ecoflow just doesn't pump out any power station they want. They go on the extra mile to see how it's customers enjoy their products.
I agree. This am I got the overload code from charging. I had an outage, and within a few hours of phone calls and emails, they are sending me a replacement model. So, this is my second warrany issue, and they are on it, while at first tried to get me just to send it back in my own paking under the "ensure it will not get damaged . . ." clause they added. I griped about that and immediately they said, so sorry, we got you another coming and they provided a tracking number. So down for a few days but back online. I use it for 9 hours during an outage on my house or my rv, and then if it goes longer than 9, I switch to a generator to run my home, while charging the ecoflow for 3 hours and then I get another 9 hours without using gas. I'm thinking I should start using my ecoflow during peak rates at PG&E and charging at low rate hours.
I love your previous review videos of the ecoflow pro. I can't wait for the dual unit review and home panel integration and roof top solar kit. Do you have roof top solar panels?
Considering a Delta Pro and curious if you think I can use the unit to charge a Tesla Model Y? I’m not looking to go from 20% to 80% state of charge but rather simply maintain the battery and pick up 7-10 kWh each day. Thanks for the great video and look forward to hearing from you.
This is the reason why I prefer to build my own which I know will save money and for those who don’t want to just buy one , trust me these are very easy to make and once you make one you will be come addict to making more and by the second one all the items needed it pays for itself !
@@USNEM I have four of them and they’re running strong and with no problem ! Learn and build one you’ll see how easy they are ! That’s a stuff you can all those item on AliExpress and other sites and my idea is. Y build make your own you don’t have to prove your self to no one but the man upstairs, so if that’s what your looking for let me know and I’ll give me info !
@@USNEM that’s one thing I hate and life that theirs big grown men who thing that everyone has to do what they say , will you got the wrong person sir ! If you need some help on how to build your own let me know and I’ll be more then happy to help you just don’t puffing your Eagle when theirs ppl like willing to help ?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would think an inverter output doesn't matter which one is live or neutral as it is isolated and floating with respect to earth ground (the actual earth via grounding rods) unless it has a UPS function which would have a pass through mode in which case the input live and neutral should be the same as the output.
I'm still looking, but did you ever use an ebike battery to power like tv, fridge crap like that?? I'm just saying I have an unused 52v 20amp.. and I was thinking about it.. you know incase stuff figure I should be ready if the power goes out for a few hours, maybe I can still power my tv ,router fridge even...
All the receptacles are and were wired correct except for the 30 amp. The wires are not long enough so ecoflow moved the wires exactly how I would do it, and you did it by extending the wires because the wires were too short. Ecoflow fixed it the easy way you fixed it the hard way! I know you won't believe me, but ecoflow did not do a software change only swap the wires just like you did. I guess I have to explain the wires have two ends one end is on the receptacle the other end is on the terminals of the source. You swapped the physical wire on the receptacle and ecoflow swapped the physical wire on the source terminal end. Whew!
Hi. Love your videos. You examine things no one else does and teach me so much. I was wondering for camping if you would recommend the original Delta or the Delta Mini? Assume they are the same price. The main differences I see are more capacity and inverter size in the aDelta vs. app support in the mini. You probably know of other technical differences. Thanks for all your help and videos. 🙏🏽
uhjyu ff Thank you. I agree that newer is better in this case other than giving up a lot of capacity and inverter power, which is why I am struggling. What I really want is a newer version of the original Delta with app support. I really like the 1800W inverter it has. The 1400W inverter isn’t quite enough, but I do love the app with it. 😊
uhjyu ff great question. The max has a lot more power, which is great, but it is large and costs a lot more. The original Delta is right between the Mini and Max, it just needs an upgrade.
So, I got the 121 error code for overload. I had it plugged in charging for the next power outage. I used it last Tuesday, and today is Monday. Before I hooked it into the bypass for the house, I turned it one, all was good, at 100% charge, and when I turned on the switch button, I got the code, and the power dropped to 69%. They are sending me a new one within a few hours of tech support. But what will prevent an overload on charging: would a surge protector be the solution when charging?
I just discovered that my AC200Max has an incorrectly wired 30Amp plug just like the preproduction Ecoflow DeltaPro. I will never use that particular plug but that's two different companies that wired these incorrectly and Bluetti has production units out with this problem. I haven't heard anything anywhere else about this issue on the Bluetti unit either.
Hey Jehu, what do you think of the forever battery? With their claims of full charge in 15 minutes, and 1000 mile range at only the size of a pack of cards. Think the media is putting out bull again.
I have a request for testing: the DeltaPro states a max input voltage for the solar input of 150V. Do you have a variable DC power supply that goes over 150V? I am curious if there is some cushion built in, how much over 150V, and if so does it trip some kind of protection, or does it fry something in the unit.
I’ve tested this. It’s pretty much a hard limit. With 160V (VOC) it would not charge. Nothing fried. Of course if you connect your 600V home array it will have problems.
I find it interesting that the Bluetti AC200Max has the exact same issue. I find it very strange that two mfg's would have the same problem. Several users including myself are seeing the same issue you did with the Ecoflow Delta Pro (ua-cam.com/video/dpYJJnAdnog/v-deo.html). With that said, I have not yet opened the unit up to see if it's a as simple as a swapped wire. I know at least 3 of us have reported this to Bluetti. We will see how they respond as compared to EcoFlow. I received a response from Bluetti regarding their wiring issue in the AC200Max. Unfortunately Bluetti's response was very disappointing. Ive included their respose for reference - "In terms of the off-grid portable power station products, the reverse polarity does not create impact to the normal use or compromise any safety problem of the products."
This confirms line & neutral are consistent between the 20A & 30A outputs, but do they match the line & neutral on the AC input? This is the important part for the scenario you mentioned in your earlier video. I.e. AC input connected to an outlet in your home, with an output connected back into your home via a transfer switch and the neutrals are bonded together in your home's main panel. Edit: Jehu, can you plug the Delta Pro into an AC outlet (to put it in pass-through mode), and plug the circuit tester into the Delta Pro to see if it reports reverse polarity?
But you didn't test on the situation where the issue would happen. In UPS mode, with ecoflow's input connected to an outlet. The test you did with the polarity checker doesn't mean anything, just that the 10A outlets have the same (correct) polarity.
I am sure the UPS function works just fine and he did test it in another video. When the charging cable is plugged into the wall outlet and the inverter is on in a pass thru function, that is ups mode. Sorry I am being so vague or brief, but that is how the ecoflow charges.
@@jonathansperb Oh I get you, plug in the ecoflow to the wall and then check polarity on the receptacles. Good idea! that would solve the confusion for sure!
All they had to do is mount the RV plug socket right side up and reconnect the wires correctly. !!!!! Looking at the layout it was to be this way from the start, however someone decided to invert the inverter plug to invert the RV inverter, Yeah what he said,.?? Probably some of that Jack Rickard's Chinglish mixup.. Ha Ha RIP Jack.
what do you mean: "nobody cares"?!?!!?! what about when the batteries take a crap and i want to replace them? or maybe fix some other component out of warranty? terrible way of thinking man. you should watch some Rossman
I think you're comment about the wires not being color corrected is wrong I understand that the point of this video is kind of talking about everything else of the battery and I understand that not anybody is just going to open this up and start messing with the wires however there's a reason why there are electrical codes out there and even electrical designs are meant to actually coordinate with the electrical codes out there. At best if they did the wiring right kudos to the manufacturer at worse they're not doing any service to anybody who may want to actually have a third party electrical technician coming take a look and repair these things if they go bad.
Congrats on 400K! Looking forward to seeing the videos on those other projects!
Good to see Ecoflow taking swift actions on issues like this.
Glad you and that viewer of yours caught the polarity issue and I'm impressed that Ecoflow was able to fix it quickly.
Most pre-production models actually helps buyers and or testers to look over the design, build quality or any other manufacturing processes that needs to be confirmed before large-scale production begins. And thanks to you Ecoflow was able to see it.
I agree those Delta Pro's are really on a league of their own. Anxiously waiting for my Delta Pro. Congratulations on the 400K.
Congrats on the 400k. Looks like Ecoflow has been keeping a good eye on you Jehu! Keep em coming.
Congratulations on 400k. That’s so nice of Ecoflow to notice and recognize that. That’s a step above.
True craftsmen will always care about the colors of the wiring. Some one might be doing work on the unit and get injured due to relying the wire coloring. The coloring of wires is governed by regulation...it serves an actual purpose....primarily personel protection.
Yeah, they should just grab some black and white electrical tape. LOL.
@@uhjyuff2095 that is a poor substitute to not using the correct wiring colors. As a former electrician I often phase colored wiring with colored tape when all wires were black in color. But having to color tape wiring that was completely wrong was not considered an option.
@@johntingle455 I am also an electrician. An example of wrong color coded wires would be a home run using a cable to a 240 volt appliance. There is no sense in using a 4 wire cable with the correct color wires over using a 3 wire cable with the wrong color coded wires. I am not saying that ecoflow used cables inside their unit, but this would be similar to opening a junction box and seeing the wires from a cable that I installed with electrical tape on the ends.
As an electrician, colors do matter! Potential shock Hazzard for technicians can occur.
Thanks to a skill frame I was able to read the number of the fan and find out it is a 80mm fan 3 prong connector. If this is way loud I will already know the right fan to purchase and swap all 4 of them out if needed. Thanks for the good video.
That's why I love your videos taking these Ecoflow's apart. I can now see exactly how well engineered these power stations are.
Store-bought works for me, thanks to your (or your follower’s) discovery and EcoFlow’s correction of this issue. Congrats on the milestone.
Jehu you should show how to hook up the split phase product to your panel when they send to you. This would be beneficial to those of us who don't want to pay electrician if we get these products. Of course anyone doing this should be savvy with electrical wiring.
Congratulations of getting over 400,000 subscribers!
Jehu, congrats on the 400K subs. I love your DIY build videos. These videos are also very informative.
I love DIY .. but TBH, I'm just not smart enough with electronics to take the risk. I have been looking at these all-in-one units for over a year, because I want people smarter than me to design and build what I use. I settled on EcoFlow because of the reviews you and other UA-camrs have provided. So thank you VERY much!!!
Do you find it at all amazing how much influence you ended up having that companies are affected and act according to your vids?…and how far you come in the last years…been following for a long time. Great job…keep’er goin’
My Costco-purchased (Dec 2021) DP has the TT-30 polarity problem. I contacted EF and they said all of the Costco-channel DPs were wired incorrectly and they are working on a remediation.
¡¡¡Congratulations on 400K!!!
(onward to 500K)
Thanks for the video Jehu. Learned a few more things today. Excited to get my hands on my Delta Pro.
Hey jehu! I would love if you made an insane ebike with 2 hub motors. Another video on the ebike for testing would be greatly appreciated! Congrats on 400k I can't wait to see what you have planned next!!!!😎😎😎
CONGRATULATIONS ON 40K..YOU ROCK!
Man I love watching these videos
Also there’s no change in the inverter required to swap L and N. There may be one required for the UPS function and split phase bonding. Check the AC charging input port on the back.I have some inside info I can’t share yet but hopefully soon.
I hope to hear what other problems these ecoflow generators have.
@@uhjyuff2095 surprisingly not many. Just a few that we found and they fixed. Pretty rock solid so far. I’ve been running mine daily.
Finally I been waiting for that video the diy powerwall you have up there
It's a good thing that Ecoflow just doesn't pump out any power station they want. They go on the extra mile to see how it's customers enjoy their products.
I agree. This am I got the overload code from charging. I had an outage, and within a few hours of phone calls and emails, they are sending me a replacement model. So, this is my second warrany issue, and they are on it, while at first tried to get me just to send it back in my own paking under the "ensure it will not get damaged . . ." clause they added. I griped about that and immediately they said, so sorry, we got you another coming and they provided a tracking number. So down for a few days but back online. I use it for 9 hours during an outage on my house or my rv, and then if it goes longer than 9, I switch to a generator to run my home, while charging the ecoflow for 3 hours and then I get another 9 hours without using gas. I'm thinking I should start using my ecoflow during peak rates at PG&E and charging at low rate hours.
400K followers! Maybe that is the universe telling you to build a 400V battery, or build a 400KV Tesla coil thingy. Congratulations!
Pretty much spot on. The tape on top supposedly reduces fan noise as there is some resonance when the cover is on.
I love your previous review videos of the ecoflow pro. I can't wait for the dual unit review and home panel integration and roof top solar kit. Do you have roof top solar panels?
@@uhjyuff2095 I have solar panels that aren’t installed on the roof yet, about 2kWs worth.
Congrats on 400k mate, you are certainly switched on :)
got mine today. wired correctly. thanks for this video.
Considering a Delta Pro and curious if you think I can use the unit to charge a Tesla Model Y? I’m not looking to go from 20% to 80% state of charge but rather simply maintain the battery and pick up 7-10 kWh each day. Thanks for the great video and look forward to hearing from you.
I also had some display problems with my River Pro. Contacted their customer service and voila Ecoflow sent me a brand new one a week after.
Congratulations
From the beginning.
A1(Aus)
Thanks for the awesome reviews, I really want to purchase the delta pro max for offgrid. This helps! 👍🤝💥
This is the reason why I prefer to build my own which I know will save money and for those who don’t want to just buy one , trust me these are very easy to make and once you make one you will be come addict to making more and by the second one all the items needed it pays for itself !
Let me know when you can build one like this one with the same features and the app.
@@USNEM I have four of them and they’re running strong and with no problem ! Learn and build one you’ll see how easy they are ! That’s a stuff you can all those item on AliExpress and other sites and my idea is. Y build make your own you don’t have to prove your self to no one but the man upstairs, so if that’s what your looking for let me know and I’ll give me info !
@@USNEM that’s one thing I hate and life that theirs big grown men who thing that everyone has to do what they say , will you got the wrong person sir ! If you need some help on how to build your own let me know and I’ll be more then happy to help you just don’t puffing your Eagle when theirs ppl like willing to help ?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would think an inverter output doesn't matter which one is live or neutral as it is isolated and floating with respect to earth ground (the actual earth via grounding rods) unless it has a UPS function which would have a pass through mode in which case the input live and neutral should be the same as the output.
Apart from the UPS it matters for split phase bonding. For single phase 120V it doesn’t matter.
@@n2rj Tell that to an electrician or the UL.
@@uhjyuff2095 I’m aware. I’m an engineer.
@@n2rj Me too! Electrical?
@@uhjyuff2095 yes! BSEE/MSEE.
I'm still looking, but did you ever use an ebike battery to power like tv, fridge crap like that?? I'm just saying I have an unused 52v 20amp.. and I was thinking about it.. you know incase stuff figure I should be ready if the power goes out for a few hours, maybe I can still power my tv ,router fridge even...
All the receptacles are and were wired correct except for the 30 amp. The wires are not long enough so ecoflow moved the wires exactly how I would do it, and you did it by extending the wires because the wires were too short. Ecoflow fixed it the easy way you fixed it the hard way! I know you won't believe me, but ecoflow did not do a software change only swap the wires just like you did. I guess I have to explain the wires have two ends one end is on the receptacle the other end is on the terminals of the source. You swapped the physical wire on the receptacle and ecoflow swapped the physical wire on the source terminal end. Whew!
Makes sense.
Thank you for all you do
Are you allowed to get rid of the units they give you?? I'd be interested in buying the one you fixed lol
Thanks for the Detailed Video This Unit!
I Guess They do NOT Check their systems Correctly
Hi. Love your videos. You examine things no one else does and teach me so much. I was wondering for camping if you would recommend the original Delta or the Delta Mini? Assume they are the same price. The main differences I see are more capacity and inverter size in the aDelta vs. app support in the mini. You probably know of other technical differences. Thanks for all your help and videos. 🙏🏽
Delta Mini is newer and newer is better! Just my opinion.
uhjyu ff Thank you. I agree that newer is better in this case other than giving up a lot of capacity and inverter power, which is why I am struggling. What I really want is a newer version of the original Delta with app support. I really like the 1800W inverter it has. The 1400W inverter isn’t quite enough, but I do love the app with it. 😊
@@litnoregrets7551 Then why don't you get the Delta Max?
Mini or max. They have app control.
uhjyu ff great question. The max has a lot more power, which is great, but it is large and costs a lot more. The original Delta is right between the Mini and Max, it just needs an upgrade.
Will the Makita battery project kit come back in stock?
Can’t wait to see you do a video on that giant Power wall behind you = 🌝
So, I got the 121 error code for overload. I had it plugged in charging for the next power outage. I used it last Tuesday, and today is Monday. Before I hooked it into the bypass for the house, I turned it one, all was good, at 100% charge, and when I turned on the switch button, I got the code, and the power dropped to 69%. They are sending me a new one within a few hours of tech support. But what will prevent an overload on charging: would a surge protector be the solution when charging?
I just discovered that my AC200Max has an incorrectly wired 30Amp plug just like the preproduction Ecoflow DeltaPro. I will never use that particular plug but that's two different companies that wired these incorrectly and Bluetti has production units out with this problem. I haven't heard anything anywhere else about this issue on the Bluetti unit either.
Hi you made a battery pack for the bluetti can you do the same for an ecoflow delta max
No way. Last one I checked it was like 275k subs.
You would think they would want the pre-production models to shine, but it seems to be a problem with all manufacturers.
Hey Jehu, what do you think of the forever battery? With their claims of full charge in 15 minutes, and 1000 mile range at only the size of a pack of cards. Think the media is putting out bull again.
Words
I have a request for testing: the DeltaPro states a max input voltage for the solar input of 150V. Do you have a variable DC power supply that goes over 150V? I am curious if there is some cushion built in, how much over 150V, and if so does it trip some kind of protection, or does it fry something in the unit.
I’ve tested this. It’s pretty much a hard limit. With 160V (VOC) it would not charge. Nothing fried. Of course if you connect your 600V home array it will have problems.
I find it interesting that the Bluetti AC200Max has the exact same issue. I find it very strange that two mfg's would have the same problem. Several users including myself are seeing the same issue you did with the Ecoflow Delta Pro (ua-cam.com/video/dpYJJnAdnog/v-deo.html). With that said, I have not yet opened the unit up to see if it's a as simple as a swapped wire.
I know at least 3 of us have reported this to Bluetti. We will see how they respond as compared to EcoFlow.
I received a response from Bluetti regarding their wiring issue in the AC200Max. Unfortunately Bluetti's response was very disappointing. Ive included their respose for reference -
"In terms of the off-grid portable power station products, the reverse polarity does not create impact to the normal use or compromise any safety problem of the products."
Can I just get one of those plugs to bond neutral to ground on Amazon? Anything special about the EF one?
Nothing special just a plug connecting the two pins
This confirms line & neutral are consistent between the 20A & 30A outputs, but do they match the line & neutral on the AC input? This is the important part for the scenario you mentioned in your earlier video. I.e. AC input connected to an outlet in your home, with an output connected back into your home via a transfer switch and the neutrals are bonded together in your home's main panel.
Edit: Jehu, can you plug the Delta Pro into an AC outlet (to put it in pass-through mode), and plug the circuit tester into the Delta Pro to see if it reports reverse polarity?
Yes, let's see that tested.
The ecoflow has been fixed, period. The 30 amp receptacle was the only problem with the ecoflow.
With our amazing governor outlawing gas powered lawn mowers in 2024... how about a video on changing a riding mower to battery power.💖💚🙏
Good morning early morning , will I hope all is well , you can get rest they say a great mind thinks better when it gets enough rest !
Wish is better the delta pro or bluettie ac 200p?
Delta pro is bigger battery, and bigger is better!
Jehu by code, the color code shall be accordingly by the book for safety reasons in order to avoid confusion and potential injuries or death...
Yeah in an electrical panel where electricians will regularly work on it. Inside this unit, to me seems like a grey area
Got some electrical tape?
Let's hope that on the next update they don't ask themselves... yeah why do we have this software hack?..and boum
....
Woohoo!! I'm first. Posted 13 seconds ago supposedly. :)
Nice 👍👍👍 pro da delta
I am in the UK and just found out I also have a polarity issue, L and N are wired up the wrong way round, has anyone else in the UK had this issue?
Is this product mostly for EV users? Are there more affordable products out there for those of us who don't have EVs?
You don’t have to own a UV to get a UV receptacle installed in your home, which will help to charge faster.
But you didn't test on the situation where the issue would happen. In UPS mode, with ecoflow's input connected to an outlet. The test you did with the polarity checker doesn't mean anything, just that the 10A outlets have the same (correct) polarity.
I am sure the UPS function works just fine and he did test it in another video. When the charging cable is plugged into the wall outlet and the inverter is on in a pass thru function, that is ups mode. Sorry I am being so vague or brief, but that is how the ecoflow charges.
@@uhjyuff2095 How about checking if in UPS mode the ecoflow's output outlets follow the correct L-N-G as being received by the input?
@@jonathansperb Oh I get you, plug in the ecoflow to the wall and then check polarity on the receptacles. Good idea! that would solve the confusion for sure!
Incorrect wire colors could be an issue for future servicing, be careful
where did you come from... ?
Seems like Ecoflow does listen and maybe even watch videos on UA-cam.
All they had to do is mount the RV plug socket right side up and reconnect the wires correctly. !!!!! Looking at the layout it was to be this way from the start, however someone decided to invert the inverter plug to invert the RV inverter, Yeah what he said,.?? Probably some of that Jack Rickard's Chinglish mixup.. Ha Ha RIP Jack.
what do you mean: "nobody cares"?!?!!?! what about when the batteries take a crap and i want to replace them? or maybe fix some other component out of warranty? terrible way of thinking man. you should watch some Rossman
They are watching you!😂
I think you're comment about the wires not being color corrected is wrong I understand that the point of this video is kind of talking about everything else of the battery and I understand that not anybody is just going to open this up and start messing with the wires however there's a reason why there are electrical codes out there and even electrical designs are meant to actually coordinate with the electrical codes out there. At best if they did the wiring right kudos to the manufacturer at worse they're not doing any service to anybody who may want to actually have a third party electrical technician coming take a look and repair these things if they go bad.