Thanks, Rich, for another outstanding job bringing to light the career of a champion of years past . Some future profiles that would be interesting, Charley Burley , Lloyd Marshall .
My first sad day as a boxing fan filled with sorrow. Not only a great champion, but we all loved Davey back then as a gentleman, and sorley lacking today...a man of class!
Thanks Rich. There's plenty of people out there doing this type of thing these days, but no-one comes close in terms of authenticity and a genuine love for our sport.
Thank you for another look back at another champion from yesterday who paid the ultimate price.....reminding us how dangerous this sport can be and how brave these warriors are.
Thanks rich for introducing me to yet another fighter i never even heard of. Davey was a great little fighter... initially i thought it was Davey Moore who fought my hero Duran. You truly are the fight historian GOAT
Another great Rich the Fight Historian Production! Thank you for giving Davey Moore the spotlight! Very well written (as usual). I only knew very little about Davey Moore u til this video, thank you!
I know this story well. If you watch, his knee hit the canvas and SHOULD have been ruled a knock down and possibly saving the injury suffered from the rope. I also found it strange for lack of better word, that the OTHER Davey Moore, the WBA Jr Middleweight Champion died very young although outside of the ring
Heartbreaker of a story. Thank you so much for fleshing out this story for me. I had read and watched the fight but never knew the man behind the tragedy, all the sadder for he was a gentleman. Thank you again Rich.
Hello rich I see you are still doing your thing great as always..I have not been watching no boxing 🥊 lately...sad to say my mother passed away a few days ago but this pain shall pass so I can do and enjoy the things I love your awesome boxing 🥊 site 😢
@@RichtheFightHistorian thank you rich I have family and friends it's been hard but God will see me through this so I can get back into the thing's I enjoy your boxing site rich is for sure one thing I love thanks agian 🙏🙏🙏
Duran was one of my favourite fighters of all time but the damage to Davey Moore's face during their fight made me suspicious of loaded gloves. Same with Julio Cesar Chavez v Meldrick Taylor. The damage to the face of the vanquished was just extreme.
When Frankie Campbell came back to his corner after round one of the Max Bear fight, he said "Something feels broken inside my head." Four or five rounds later, he fell, never to get up.
Rich i posted my last comment a few minutes into the ramos fight. I had a strange feeling the fight was going to end in tragedy, especially when the ring commentator said he was going to try and get Emile Griffith up between rounds... Tragic end to a great little fighter. It must have been hard on griffith afterwards considering what happened in his fight with Benny parret just a year prior.
The referee didn't stop the fight when Moore took a knee moments before the fall. If he did maybe it would have ended up differently. What a champion this Moore was. Thanks for uploading.
Davey's picture was on my b/r wall in Scotland along with o'l bones Brown, Bassey, Sugar Ray and many others but I cried when he passed over. He was a class act and a gent in the ring. Thanks for the memories.
What a poignant episode! Thank you. BTW I was really impressed by Steve Ellis the commentator of the fight between Moore and Ramos. Do you know anything about him?
Ellis was a colorful and popular national sports broadcaster, including radio coverage of New York Giants games. He was the broadcast commentator on the closed circuit broadcast of Clay vs Liston #1. He also managed popular welterweight Chico Vejar. Unfortunately, he died at only 50 years of age.
Rich, I don’t comment so much but I like and watch every documentary. All these little poignant human dramas are so well done. Have you documented “John-John” Howard Davis Jr? Interesting story there.
What else was Sugar Ramos supposed to do? Davey was coming at him with everything he had that night. Just a tragic turn of events. Just like the infamous Ray Mancini/Doo Koo Kim fight that happened almost 2 decades later. One of those fights where one, if not both fighters, would never be the same afterwards...
Can you imagine how good or amazing fighters went unnoticed if they wasn't mafia backed or that they did not jump on a chance when got it. Randolph Turpin. Wouldn't have had a look in if sugar ray didn't pass through England. There must have been millions of fighters that we never got the chance to see.
Yes, people talk often about who was the most underrated fighter of all-time and it is most likely someone we here in the modern era have never seen before.
I read in Ring Magazine that his wife caught him cheating and beat him with a bat while he was sleeping not long before this fatal fight. Moore could have gone into this fight already with a head injury
Who Killed Davey Moore “Not I,” says the referee “Don’t point your finger at me I could’ve stopped it in the eighth And maybe kept him from his fate But the crowd would’ve booed, I’m sure At not getting their money’s worth It’s too bad he had to go But there was a pressure on me too, you know It wasn’t me that made him fall No, you can’t blame me at all” Who killed Davey Moore? Why, and what’s the reason for? “Not us,” says the angry crowd Whose screams filled the arena loud “It’s too bad he died that night But we just like to see a fight We didn’t mean for him to meet his death We just meant to see some sweat There is nothing wrong in that It wasn’t us that made him fall No, you can’t blame us at all” “Not me,” says his manager Puffing on a big cigar “It’s hard to say, it’s hard to tell I always thought that he was well It’s too bad for his wife an’ kids he’s dead But if he was sick, he should’ve said It wasn’t me that made him fall No, you can’t blame me at all” Who killed Davey Moore? Why, and what’s the reason for? “Not me,” says the gambling man With his ticket stub still in his hand “It wasn’t me that knocked him down My hands never touched him none I didn’t commit no ugly sin Anyway, I put money on him to win It wasn’t me that made him fall No, you can’t blame me at all” [Chorus] Who killed Davey Moore? Why, and what’s the reason for? “Not me,” says the boxing writer Pounding print on his old typewriter Saying, “Boxing is not to blame There’s just as much danger in a football game” Saying, “Fist fighting is here to stay It’s just the old American way It wasn’t me that made him fall No, you can’t blame me at all” Who killed Davey Moore? Why, and what’s the reason for? “Not me,” says the man whose fists Laid him low in a cloud of mist Who came here from Cuba’s door Where boxing is not allowed no more “I hit him, yes, it’s true But that’s what I am paid to do Don’t say ‘murder,’ don’t say ‘kill’ It was destiny, it was God’s will” Who killed Davey Moore? Why, and what’s the reason for?
Unlike the Benny kid Paret fight, were the ref was at fault for not stopping the fight, everybody here did a great job. Even with hindsight I can't see how Davey's death could have been prevented, tragedy, great champion ! Maybe extreme weight cut ?
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Thanks Rich for highlighting this amazing little fighter. Thanks to you honest fighters like Davey will not be forgotten.
Thanks, Cedric. Moore was a really good fighter.
Thanks, Rich, for another outstanding job bringing to light the career of a champion of years past . Some future profiles that would be interesting, Charley Burley , Lloyd Marshall .
@@RichtheFightHistorian thanks for this documentary on Moore I remember me and my uncle talked about that fight between him and Ramos.
My father's best boxing channel on UA-cam past and present. @@RichtheFightHistorian
My first sad day as a boxing fan filled with sorrow. Not only a great champion, but we all loved Davey back then as a gentleman, and sorley lacking today...a man of class!
Thanks Rich. There's plenty of people out there doing this type of thing these days, but no-one comes close in terms of authenticity and a genuine love for our sport.
I appreciate that John, thank you.
That's sad also the other Davey Moore boxer died from an accident at home
Great job Rich
He deserves to be remembered.
Thank you, KidGavilan
Thank you for another look back at another champion from yesterday who paid the ultimate price.....reminding us how dangerous this sport can be and how brave these warriors are.
Always a pleasure, WolfmanJoe
Thanks Rich for another Gem !! Long Live Davey Moore 🥊
Sure thing, MPR
This was a great but sad one Rich. 😥Thanks for posting.🙏🏾
Sure thing, Elwin.
This is beautiful, Rich. When the ringsider commentator mentions Emile Griffith being there . . . Bit of an "O-Wow" moment.
Thank you, Michael.
Thanks Rich. Tremendous video about the fabulous Davey Moore. May he R.I.P.
My pleasure, David.
Boxing is one of the toughest ways to make a living. Truly a deadly profession...Rest up King 💪🏾
Thanks rich for introducing me to yet another fighter i never even heard of. Davey was a great little fighter... initially i thought it was Davey Moore who fought my hero Duran.
You truly are the fight historian GOAT
Hard to believe there were two good ones!
I wonder if Rich is planning a documentary for the second Davey Moore.
My pleasure, Alan, thanks for the kind words.
Great job, Rich.. What a great fighter Davey Moore was! The guys from this era were cut from a different cloth.
Two great fighters
I've been following boxing for well over 40 years.
This is very hard to watch knowing what is to come.
RIP Champ 👊🙏👊
Great work Rich ! what a tragic story but glad you told the story.cheers buddy
Thank you, Kim.
Another great Rich the Fight Historian Production! Thank you for giving Davey Moore the spotlight! Very well written (as usual). I only knew very little about Davey Moore u til this video, thank you!
My pleasure, Awestruck, thank you.
Why are all the fights resulting in deaths or disability always so good? Moore vs Ramos, Mancini vs Kim, mclellan vs Benn, Watson vs Eubank, etc.
Because they feature prolonged punishment, which is far worse than quick and concussive KOs.
Jack Dempsey, Jess Willard and Gene Tunney all lived long, well, and lucid. Jack Johnson died in a car crash at 68.
Moore and Ramos are congratulating each other between rounds. Despite the tragedy, both displayed terrific sportsmanship.
Thanks for the amazing video ❤
My pleasure, John.
I know this story well. If you watch, his knee hit the canvas and SHOULD have been ruled a knock down and possibly saving the injury suffered from the rope. I also found it strange for lack of better word, that the OTHER Davey Moore, the WBA Jr Middleweight Champion died very young although outside of the ring
Heartbreaker of a story. Thank you so much for fleshing out this story for me. I had read and watched the fight but never knew the man behind the tragedy, all the sadder for he was a gentleman. Thank you again Rich.
Always a pleasure, GetSmart
great deep dive as always, your blending of footage w/backstory can’t be beat
Thanks, Brian.
Keep em coming, Thanks.
Thanks for your work to remember thise kind of fighters...incredible story, great great post ❤🙏
Thank you, Paolo.
Hello rich I see you are still doing your thing great as always..I have not been watching no boxing 🥊 lately...sad to say my mother passed away a few days ago but this pain shall pass so I can do and enjoy the things I love your awesome boxing 🥊 site 😢
Sorry for your loss 😢
Really sorry to hear that, Petie. Hopefully you have some people around you to keep you company during this time. My condolences to you.
@@brucejones8047 thank you so much
@@RichtheFightHistorian thank you rich I have family and friends it's been hard but God will see me through this so I can get back into the thing's I enjoy your boxing site rich is for sure one thing I love thanks agian 🙏🙏🙏
Sorry for your loss mate
Great video coverage, Rich 💯 🥊🥊Damn!
Thank you, Samuel.
My stepdad always spoke of Moore & Benny Paret dying as fighters from his youth.
5:23 to 5:32 That's the first time I ever a pull counter hook 😮 damn you got have good timing to pull that off.
Duran was one of my favourite fighters of all time but the damage to Davey Moore's face during their fight made me suspicious of loaded gloves. Same with Julio Cesar Chavez v Meldrick Taylor. The damage to the face of the vanquished was just extreme.
You got the wrong Davey more my freind🤫
When Frankie Campbell came back to his corner after round one of the Max Bear fight, he said "Something feels broken inside my head." Four or five rounds later, he fell, never to get up.
Excellent.....AS USUAL!
Thank you, t9190kp.
The next one should be Tommy Morrison
Agree
Rich i posted my last comment a few minutes into the ramos fight. I had a strange feeling the fight was going to end in tragedy, especially when the ring commentator said he was going to try and get Emile Griffith up between rounds... Tragic end to a great little fighter. It must have been hard on griffith afterwards considering what happened in his fight with Benny parret just a year prior.
there was a other guy name davey moore.he fought roberto duran on his birthday. this davey moore life ended sadly also.
Still waiting on Vernon viper Forest
A tragic outcome indeed...
Good stuff, rich. You are a great storyteller
Thank you, Mary.
The referee didn't stop the fight when Moore took a knee moments before the fall. If he did maybe it would have ended up differently. What a champion this Moore was. Thanks for uploading.
Davey's picture was on my b/r wall in Scotland along with o'l bones Brown, Bassey, Sugar Ray and many others but I cried when he passed over. He was a class act and a gent in the ring. Thanks for the memories.
Who would stop a fight because someone took a knee?
@@TheBatugan77 , whoever knew the rules of the game.
Remember Davey Moore the middle weight from the 80's
What a poignant episode! Thank you. BTW I was really impressed by Steve Ellis the commentator of the fight between Moore and Ramos. Do you know anything about him?
Ellis was a colorful and popular national sports broadcaster, including radio coverage of New York Giants games. He was the broadcast commentator on the closed circuit broadcast of Clay vs Liston #1. He also managed popular welterweight Chico Vejar. Unfortunately, he died at only 50 years of age.
Great Video.
Thank you, RenBrands.
Rich, I don’t comment so much but I like and watch every documentary. All these little poignant human dramas are so well done. Have you documented “John-John” Howard Davis Jr? Interesting story there.
Thanks so much, Peter. Yes, I've put Davis up a bit higher on the to do list as so many people have requested him.
Was Sugar Ramos the first boxer to have stylish trunks like that? First time I've seen a boxer in this time period to have non basic trunks
Man missed a few videos here heading back home for a while get my whistle on passing tru do not shoot lol .
Sickener to the body left hook lights out that was slick 👌
One thing doesn't change is the weather 🥵🥵🥵🥵 or my driving nearly flipped the truck 😆that was a close one
We love November boxer❤
Sugar Ramos train by Angelo Dundee
🔥 🔥 🔥
Excellent documentary about this great fighter
Thank you, Alan.
Thanks for the video, RICH THE FIGHT HISTORIAN
Sure thing, Abudujana
The referee did not hear the bell at the end of the 9th round, luckily the 2 fighters did.
What else was Sugar Ramos supposed to do? Davey was coming at him with everything he had that night. Just a tragic turn of events. Just like the infamous Ray Mancini/Doo Koo Kim fight that happened almost 2 decades later. One of those fights where one, if not both fighters, would never be the same afterwards...
Indeed. Getting punched repeatedly by a world class fighter carries inherent risks.
And to see Davey giving his opponent sporting slaps between rounds. Dylan got it wrong, the whiplash from the ropes seems most likely.
Rich, will you ever do one on middleweight mike nixon or johnny verderosa?
I did one on Verderosa awhile back. I'm not sure if there is enough info on Nixon.
Can you imagine how good or amazing fighters went unnoticed if they wasn't mafia backed or that they did not jump on a chance when got it. Randolph Turpin. Wouldn't have had a look in if sugar ray didn't pass through England.
There must have been millions of fighters that we never got the chance to see.
Yes, people talk often about who was the most underrated fighter of all-time and it is most likely someone we here in the modern era have never seen before.
I read in Ring Magazine that his wife caught him cheating and beat him with a bat while he was sleeping not long before this fatal fight. Moore could have gone into this fight already with a head injury
Who Killed Davey Moore
“Not I,” says the referee
“Don’t point your finger at me
I could’ve stopped it in the eighth
And maybe kept him from his fate
But the crowd would’ve booed, I’m sure
At not getting their money’s worth
It’s too bad he had to go
But there was a pressure on me too, you know
It wasn’t me that made him fall
No, you can’t blame me at all”
Who killed Davey Moore?
Why, and what’s the reason for?
“Not us,” says the angry crowd
Whose screams filled the arena loud
“It’s too bad he died that night
But we just like to see a fight
We didn’t mean for him to meet his death
We just meant to see some sweat
There is nothing wrong in that
It wasn’t us that made him fall
No, you can’t blame us at all”
“Not me,” says his manager
Puffing on a big cigar
“It’s hard to say, it’s hard to tell
I always thought that he was well
It’s too bad for his wife an’ kids he’s dead
But if he was sick, he should’ve said
It wasn’t me that made him fall
No, you can’t blame me at all”
Who killed Davey Moore?
Why, and what’s the reason for?
“Not me,” says the gambling man
With his ticket stub still in his hand
“It wasn’t me that knocked him down
My hands never touched him none
I didn’t commit no ugly sin
Anyway, I put money on him to win
It wasn’t me that made him fall
No, you can’t blame me at all”
[Chorus]
Who killed Davey Moore?
Why, and what’s the reason for?
“Not me,” says the boxing writer
Pounding print on his old typewriter
Saying, “Boxing is not to blame
There’s just as much danger in a football game”
Saying, “Fist fighting is here to stay
It’s just the old American way
It wasn’t me that made him fall
No, you can’t blame me at all”
Who killed Davey Moore?
Why, and what’s the reason for?
“Not me,” says the man whose fists
Laid him low in a cloud of mist
Who came here from Cuba’s door
Where boxing is not allowed no more
“I hit him, yes, it’s true
But that’s what I am paid to do
Don’t say ‘murder,’ don’t say ‘kill’
It was destiny, it was God’s will”
Who killed Davey Moore?
Why, and what’s the reason for?
Unlike the Benny kid Paret fight, were the ref was at fault for not stopping the fight, everybody here did a great job. Even with hindsight I can't see how Davey's death could have been prevented, tragedy, great champion ! Maybe extreme weight cut ?
If Bob Dylan and/or the Pope are for it, I am almost certainly against it.
Who kill Davey Moore and why what's the reason for
@jonathanrubino2577 he died from brain injuries in the ring and the opponent was Sugar Ramos who fought Moore at that time