I'm just putting my first trigger set up together and now know exactly what things I need to be conscious of and consider. Thanks for making such an incisive and informative video.
I don't., I suppose I could do that. I use studio monitors for my ekit as they sound really good. The PA my band uses to jam s garbage lol. We have a Tapco powered speaker which isn't too bad though.
I'm having trouble with settings on the DM5 with an RT-30 trigger. Bass drum is stuffed with blankets but I still can't keep my rimshot snare hits from setting off the trigger. Do you think getting a TM-2 module would help eliminate the double triggering? At the moment I can't get my sensitivity high enough to trigger double strokes and it's driving me nuts!
I have delt with this..... I can't say forsure that the TM-2 will fix this, but I do find i have WAAAAAY less issues than when I used to use my dm5...... trigger placement is a big thing, you could try moving it around the bass drum to see if it helps, right now i have mine quite close to the floor on the left side and not right under the snare.... bass drum tension is another one.. You may still need to drop the sensitivity or up the threshold... It's tough to say. Either way getting a TM-2 is 1000x better, using your own samples instead of "producer" or "speed metal" is already a win.
beyondbetrayal Thanks for the insight on the TM-2! I'm going to keep trying different trigger placement positions and hopefully I'll come up with a solution. I'm tempted to try the axis ekits, any success using double strokes with those?
Thanks so much for this video!! I watched an older one you posted on PDF and then I got here lol. I don't have a single piece of gear for triggering but I'll have to invest on it sooner or later, and as I don't have an Axis with Ekits, I need to learn a lot of stuff or at least have a good reference because I've seen how the struggle of double and false triggering is lol. I'll subscribe so I know when you upload new information!! Cheers!!
Already subbed! The Yamaha EAD10 looks interesting but I'm not even going to look to see what it costs... I already use the Laser-Pick, thought I'd ask since my DDrum and Roland triggers gather dust now, keen to hear other drummer's experiences with it.
Doubles all the way! I learned how from You (Thanks bro!) and Jordan Perry from Derelict ua-cam.com/video/5xbvtI_Xyr8/v-deo.html I used to use a TD-9 which shat itself, but since I only trigger the kick I downgraded to a TM-2 which got stolen not even a week after I got it so I bought a cheap 2nd hand Medelli kit because I didn't want to care if it broke or got stolen, but as it is with the Laser Pick I just use the Auxillary input and the Laser Pick on-board sounds. For band sessions the trigger is run direct to the desk and then either out to speakers or my headphones depending if I use acoustic or mesh head on the kick.
can you bypass the drum module and plug the triggers straight into your audio interface and have each trigger as its own channel like how you would record a regular kit with mics?
No.. You need a module. The module sends the audio signal to to the interface. The other option is to take MIDI from the module to the interface and use a program on the PC for the audio samples.
Great video! Lots of good info! I’m in the middle of converting my acoustic kit into a hybrid kit. I picked up a Roland TD-20 and some mesh heads. I was thinking of using the clamp-on Roland triggers. Any info on your likes/dislike using those triggers?
Hey man great video. One question. You may have answered this but I'm kind of in a rush so I couldn't watch the entire thing. If I want JUST a bass trigger to put it in my practice room, not to play along with music or anything. Just simply to use a trigger through a speaker. What do I neee? As far as I'm concerned, I need the trigger, module, speaker, and of course cables to connect speaker and trigger to module. Am I missing something? Or is that basically it?
Fur Coat trigger . cable to module. module. ... then. you either need a PA system or powered speaker. you would run a cable from the trigger module to either of those
I have the TM-2 with a TD-10K trigger. Seems like no matter what I try, no matter how I adjust tyre threshold and sensitivity, my snare randomly sets it off. Any suggestions?? Thanks.
Don't put the trigger right under the snare, try and offset it to the right of the kick drum a bit. turn threshold up, turn sensitivity down, make sure you have more blankets/pillows in your kick and maybe tighten the batter head a bit. xtalk and retrig won't have any change in that issue.
how to assign different drum rack samples to different triggers in ableton? I have connected tm 2 to PC through Scarlett 6i6. I don't know what note is bring triggered in ableton. please help.
I've learned a lot from all your vids, even got the tm2 as ive been wanting to switch to a triggered set up. My band has been recording and I havent found any good metal samples for my kick. Where do you find yours at by chance?
You can load any sound on it you want. It has to be a 16bit wav file... Just load it into your DAW and render it. One of the best features of the TM-2. Appreciate you watching the videos. Hit me up if you any questions. or add my FB "scott patterson drummer" and I could try and send you a wav file
I would greatly appreciate that. I found out the hard way it needs to be 16bit 441khz. But all the ones ive found have too much echo or not dense enough through A Pa system. Thanks for your time!
I just added a Roland kick trigger into my acoustic kit. Its powered through the Yamaha DTX 502 module. Ive spent about 4 hours today getting no where with this trigger. The doubles im playing, just for set up, arent coming through the trigger as they are being played. Im basically getting sporadic singles with this trigger. Do you have any thoughts on how to remedy this? Im using an aquarian superkick II head. Thanks!
Thank you for this amazing tutorial, and for sharing it !! I'm a begginer in what trigger concerns so this is pretty helpful, just I have a question (probably a stupid one, sorry) Can I use a guitar amp to connect the module, instead of a PA or monitor? Will it work? Thank you man for helping me out. Greetings from México City.
Thanks for watching dude! I have used many guitar amps in my day for a "PA". Our singer has for vocals, and me for drums. Just don't overload it.. PA's are usually louder depending on the system. I recommend taking a bunch of the bass or low end out of the sample, or the EQ on the amp to get extra volume. Having it sound more "clicky" will be louder and cut the mix better.
@@beyondbetrayal Thank you I appreciate your answer, I'll give my amp a try, actually I just want to plug in for my kick drum trigger so... hope it works!!
Hey there, I just got the tm2. And I’m trying to hook it up to my kick drum with the DDrum kick trigger. I’m getting nothing. Is this trigger compatible? And do I need certain cables for it to work? Thanks for your time!
That trigger will work. getting nothing? when you press button one and 2 on the module you should get a noise. That is test one. if you are it has to be 1/4 inch at the TM2 and i think those ddrms are XLR? or are they redshots. turn the threshold down and sensitivity up and see what happens next.
beyondbetrayal I am 20, so yeah I am a bit young. I remember watching it when I was like 5-6ish with my father. But yeah besides that I have never watched it xD.. Looks like a good show tho!
it's pretty funny. someone gave me that pic so my band thought it would be funny to hang in the jam room. surprised your the first one to notice or comment lol
beyondbetrayal Yeah this video has been up for a couple months so it is kind of surprising that no one has noticed it xD. Maybe they did and just did not comment haha!
I get this a lot. You might be too young :P... Did you ever watch Seinfeld? It's George Costanza. "The timeless art of seduction". Fantastic TV show. haha
I like that picture in the top right
lol
I'm just putting my first trigger set up together and now know exactly what things I need to be conscious of and consider. Thanks for making such an incisive and informative video.
Don't Fall For Me no problem man.
Great George Castanza picture in top right corner lol. Great episode
Hahaha, The Timeless Art of Seduction. It's a classic.
Hi and thanks for the tutorial! Could you please make a review with the smart drum trigger TrigMic Laser Pick
I'll check it out!
Great info. I haven't used MIDI in years and suddenly I'm drawn to it.
Do you have a video on what pa system/speakers/subwoofers you use?
I don't., I suppose I could do that. I use studio monitors for my ekit as they sound really good. The PA my band uses to jam s garbage lol. We have a Tapco powered speaker which isn't too bad though.
Dude great tutorial. I like the sound of kick sample. Is that original sample from TM2 or yours? Thanks.
What's the best speaker to use while practicing to run just kick drum triggers
Anything with enough power to hear it. For a few hundred a powered pa speaker you can plug right into from the module
I know nothing about triggers and a little confused at 1:40. So triggered drums will always be at the same volumes or can you still have dynamics?
You can set the dynamics to 1 level, or have the dynamics match your playing. It works both ways.
@@beyondbetrayal Thanks for the reply.
I'm having trouble with settings on the DM5 with an RT-30 trigger. Bass drum is stuffed with blankets but I still can't keep my rimshot snare hits from setting off the trigger. Do you think getting a TM-2 module would help eliminate the double triggering? At the moment I can't get my sensitivity high enough to trigger double strokes and it's driving me nuts!
I have delt with this..... I can't say forsure that the TM-2 will fix this, but I do find i have WAAAAAY less issues than when I used to use my dm5...... trigger placement is a big thing, you could try moving it around the bass drum to see if it helps, right now i have mine quite close to the floor on the left side and not right under the snare.... bass drum tension is another one.. You may still need to drop the sensitivity or up the threshold... It's tough to say. Either way getting a TM-2 is 1000x better, using your own samples instead of "producer" or "speed metal" is already a win.
beyondbetrayal Thanks for the insight on the TM-2! I'm going to keep trying different trigger placement positions and hopefully I'll come up with a solution. I'm tempted to try the axis ekits, any success using double strokes with those?
How do you use triggers live? Is it a DI into the soundboard or something?
Ya, I just have a line out on my TM2. I use a 1/4 inch cable and the sound guy gives me a DI box.
Hi... where could I find this kick sound? Thanks
Thanks so much for this video!! I watched an older one you posted on PDF and then I got here lol. I don't have a single piece of gear for triggering but I'll have to invest on it sooner or later, and as I don't have an Axis with Ekits, I need to learn a lot of stuff or at least have a good reference because I've seen how the struggle of double and false triggering is lol.
I'll subscribe so I know when you upload new information!! Cheers!!
I am trying to trigger a keyboard track by hitting a pad on a TD50.. Any idea how to do that?
Are you using low volume drum heads and if not do you think you would get the same results?
Great tutorial, thank you!
You're very welcome!
Have you tried the Trig-Mic Laser Pick? (laser based Kick trigger).
I have, sub and i'll be posting something better asap
Already subbed! The Yamaha EAD10 looks interesting but I'm not even going to look to see what it costs...
I already use the Laser-Pick, thought I'd ask since my DDrum and Roland triggers gather dust now, keen to hear other drummer's experiences with it.
Do you do doubles or singles on the kick? what is your module?
Doubles all the way! I learned how from You (Thanks bro!) and Jordan Perry from Derelict ua-cam.com/video/5xbvtI_Xyr8/v-deo.html
I used to use a TD-9 which shat itself, but since I only trigger the kick I downgraded to a TM-2 which got stolen not even a week after I got it so I bought a cheap 2nd hand Medelli kit because I didn't want to care if it broke or got stolen, but as it is with the Laser Pick I just use the Auxillary input and the Laser Pick on-board sounds.
For band sessions the trigger is run direct to the desk and then either out to speakers or my headphones depending if I use acoustic or mesh head on the kick.
Uploading my new video right now. Got some cool toys in the mail that will work with any pedal / module
How do connect to an interface (Tascam Model 16)
can you bypass the drum module and plug the triggers straight into your audio interface and have each trigger as its own channel like how you would record a regular kit with mics?
No.. You need a module. The module sends the audio signal to to the interface. The other option is to take MIDI from the module to the interface and use a program on the PC for the audio samples.
Great video! Lots of good info! I’m in the middle of converting my acoustic kit into a hybrid kit. I picked up a Roland TD-20 and some mesh heads. I was thinking of using the clamp-on Roland triggers. Any info on your likes/dislike using those triggers?
Clamp on Roland's are fantastic. No dislikes.
Hey man great video. One question. You may have answered this but I'm kind of in a rush so I couldn't watch the entire thing. If I want JUST a bass trigger to put it in my practice room, not to play along with music or anything. Just simply to use a trigger through a speaker. What do I neee? As far as I'm concerned, I need the trigger, module, speaker, and of course cables to connect speaker and trigger to module. Am I missing something? Or is that basically it?
Fur Coat trigger . cable to module. module. ... then. you either need a PA system or powered speaker. you would run a cable from the trigger module to either of those
beyondbetrayal Awesome man thanks. Everyone else I ask seems to give me way more info than I need... I appreciate it 👍
Great video. Thanks for putting out this content.
Is the roland kick trigger better than the ddrum kick trigger ?
demonocus drumocus I think it works better. very accurate
Can I record my bassdrum and output it without delay on PA speakers?
There is no delay coming from my TM-2 to my ears, or the PA system. You're not going to notice a few ms.
I have the TM-2 with a TD-10K trigger. Seems like no matter what I try, no matter how I adjust tyre threshold and sensitivity, my snare randomly sets it off. Any suggestions?? Thanks.
Don't put the trigger right under the snare, try and offset it to the right of the kick drum a bit. turn threshold up, turn sensitivity down, make sure you have more blankets/pillows in your kick and maybe tighten the batter head a bit. xtalk and retrig won't have any change in that issue.
beyondbetrayal thank you for the reply. I appreciate it. I'll Try those suggestions. Cheers!!!
how to assign different drum rack samples to different triggers in ableton? I have connected tm 2 to PC through Scarlett 6i6. I don't know what note is bring triggered in ableton. please help.
im looking for the same answer
I've learned a lot from all your vids, even got the tm2 as ive been wanting to switch to a triggered set up. My band has been recording and I havent found any good metal samples for my kick. Where do you find yours at by chance?
You can load any sound on it you want. It has to be a 16bit wav file... Just load it into your DAW and render it. One of the best features of the TM-2. Appreciate you watching the videos. Hit me up if you any questions. or add my FB "scott patterson drummer" and I could try and send you a wav file
I would greatly appreciate that. I found out the hard way it needs to be 16bit 441khz. But all the ones ive found have too much echo or not dense enough through A Pa system. Thanks for your time!
I just added a Roland kick trigger into my acoustic kit. Its powered through the Yamaha DTX 502 module. Ive spent about 4 hours today getting no where with this trigger. The doubles im playing, just for set up, arent coming through the trigger as they are being played. Im basically getting sporadic singles with this trigger. Do you have any thoughts on how to remedy this? Im using an aquarian superkick II head. Thanks!
Thank you for this amazing tutorial, and for sharing it !! I'm a begginer in what trigger concerns so this is pretty helpful, just I have a question (probably a stupid one, sorry) Can I use a guitar amp to connect the module, instead of a PA or monitor? Will it work? Thank you man for helping me out. Greetings from México City.
Thanks for watching dude! I have used many guitar amps in my day for a "PA". Our singer has for vocals, and me for drums. Just don't overload it.. PA's are usually louder depending on the system. I recommend taking a bunch of the bass or low end out of the sample, or the EQ on the amp to get extra volume. Having it sound more "clicky" will be louder and cut the mix better.
@@beyondbetrayal Thank you I appreciate your answer, I'll give my amp a try, actually I just want to plug in for my kick drum trigger so... hope it works!!
Hey there, I just got the tm2. And I’m trying to hook it up to my kick drum with the DDrum kick trigger. I’m getting nothing. Is this trigger compatible? And do I need certain cables for it to work? Thanks for your time!
That trigger will work. getting nothing? when you press button one and 2 on the module you should get a noise. That is test one. if you are it has to be 1/4 inch at the TM2 and i think those ddrms are XLR? or are they redshots. turn the threshold down and sensitivity up and see what happens next.
Your Dissociation band logo looks remarkably similar to my old Dissociation band logo 😂🤣
We've had this logo for maaaany years lol
I just bought the tm-2. You make me want to never use anything again.
Lol I hope it's not because I made it look bad
Loved the video but what the fuck is that photo in the top right? LOL.. I was watching the video and when I looked at that I lost my shit xD.
it's George costanza from Seinfeld. Haha you may be a bit young to watch that show.
beyondbetrayal
I am 20, so yeah I am a bit young. I remember watching it when I was like 5-6ish with my father. But yeah besides that I have never watched it xD.. Looks like a good show tho!
it's pretty funny. someone gave me that pic so my band thought it would be funny to hang in the jam room. surprised your the first one to notice or comment lol
beyondbetrayal
Yeah this video has been up for a couple months so it is kind of surprising that no one has noticed it xD. Maybe they did and just did not comment haha!
You eat with that mouth? Just sayin
What are you doing here George Costanza😂😂😂
Lol
hey man thanks for this lesson, liked and subbed!!!! if you have instagram link it here and I follow you in there too.
Cheers!
for a little more detailed explanation of some of the terms he used: www.instructables.com/id/Electronic-Drums-Lingo/
Dude... who's the guy in the Picture in the Wall?? ?? 😂😂😂
I get this a lot. You might be too young :P... Did you ever watch Seinfeld? It's George Costanza. "The timeless art of seduction". Fantastic TV show. haha
beyondbetrayal ohh seinfeld..... hahahahahahaha yes i remember....
HAHA. my friend gave me that picture off the wall in his house after a few drinks and insisted it go in the jamroom.. so there it is lol
Hahaha... by the way.... Nice drumkit!!!!! Cheers from México!!!!
I approve so hard, my dude lol
I have this same module but there is no kick sound as yours...
Really dark video
It's old lol
can you put the camera further away ? amateur
I made this in a rush a few years ago. Relax. The information is still valid.