Is Saskatchewan’s Electric Highway Trucked Up or Totally F&!@ed Up?
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Can I drive my ev truck anywhere in the wide open prairies of the province without range anxiety, or worse, running out of power? Will my F150 Lightning make it to every corner of the province? Is Saskatchewan ev friendly, or looking to the past rather than forward?
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I really enjoy your videos. Thanks for your efforts to support EV's.
Thanks for the great video. I got a sweet deal on my ev because “no one wants EVs in Saskatchewan “. I wanted one and it’s awesome. This summer I had to make a detour in Outlook to use the charger…worked great (100 kw). Still waiting on my NACS Tesla adapter and the Flo charger in Preston Crossing (50 KW) is too slow. Definitely seems like Saskatchewan is moving way too slow in regards to EV infrastructure. However, two places I travelled to this summer, Rosthern and Watrous, are getting DC fast charging so maybe these gaps are starting to close. Watching your trip from Swift Current to Saskatoon made me think that Rosetown should really have a dc fast charger there. Rosetown is a major crossroad.
Congrats on your ev purchase, and I think you're right: Saskatchewan WILL fill in the gaps but not because of the government or Sask Power - more like despite them.
Outlook's FLO chargers were 50kw. Was there a charger there I overlooked?
Thanks so much for watching, and supporting the channel! So grateful.
Appreciate your take on agriculture and the importance of in our society
Farmers matter, and often don't get the props they deserve.
Thanks for the comment!
Exactly. We’re ALL in the ag business.
Great videos! Really enjoying watching your travels across our great country.
Glad you like them! Thanks for commenting!
Thx again for the entertainment. I enjoyed it very much. I’m glad I subscribed. This would be a challenging trip for my Texas-made Model Y. It gets windy in Texas, but nothing like gale-force speed. I really like the way that red Lightning looks going down the road. Keepem coming 👍
Thank you Thomas! Glad to have you along for the ride!
My wife currently has a Bolt and really enjoys it but if we have enough money in the future, it will be replaced with a Model Y.
Great car.
Also, the Y is highly aerodynamic. Try driving a barn with tires into a tornado🥴🤯. The truck is more aerodynamic than the ICE trucks I've owned, but it's no Tesla.
Thanks!
Thank you so much James! I really appreciate the channel support!
It’s Bob again! I have been enjoying your trip reports. I have a question regarding your TT-30 charge adapter. You mentioned that it worked with the Ford charger. Did you test it overnight? The reason I ask is I do not think that charger is Smart, by that I mean does it reduce the charge rate to 24 Amps? You can not pull continuous power of more than 80% of the breakers rating. On a 30 Amp breaker that is 24 amps. The stock Ford charger to my knowledge is 12 amps at 120 Volts and 32 amps at 240 volt. That would blow the 30 amp breaker in about 5-10 minutes.. I am reasonably close to pulling a deal for my LIghtning and if the charger will not do this I have another charger in mind.
Keep up the great reports,
Bob
Hi Bob!
Great to hear from you. I think I'm mapping out your spring route :-) !
I'm not 100% sure on this one - a question for the Ford Forum or Ford directly - but I've used it twice overnight with no trip at all, nor any heat sites on the pluig or the outlet (I've checked). I think it is because it is drawing at 120v, not 220/240v. A tt-30 socket delivers 120V 30A (24A continuous) service, I believe, but I'm also not an electrician. :-)
Saskatchewan….where you can sit on your porch and watch your dog run away for two days. Welcome to Saskatchewan, and you’re welcome to it! Thanks for another wonderful video, and suffering through this God forsaken H3LL Hole so we don’t have to.
I know a lot of people get the memberships on the charging networks and then turn on and turn off the membership only for road trips. Not sure if that would work with the Tesla membership. The DCFC charging prices are out of control almost everywhere now. One thing that is still true from watching your trips and my own rural driving is get the biggest battery EV you can, and drive conservatively until you know for sure you are going to make the distance you planned to cover to the next DCFC.
People say we don't need longer range EV's. I beg to differ. Range gets impacted by weather, cold, wind so having the largest battery possible that charges quickly is a big deal. Better battery tech is coming that should make this much easier in the years ahead. Make sure you have a BUFFER. I have saved my bacon a few times by keeping a healthy buffer with a plan b to limp to if there is a problem. I think people watch some of the Out of Spec videos and watch them drive down to single digit SOC. That is WRECKLESS in the real world. I wish they would put up a disclaimer and warn people NOT to imitate their races and range tests and push it to the bottom of the battery pack.
Most of the chargers in rural areas are slow fast chargers, but we are glad just to have them. You pray that they are going to be working. That really makes me angry when these chargers don't work like a gas pump. ANYONE should be able to roll up, present a payment method at the charger and it should just work. It is quite irritating to need apps, memberships, no transparency on what it is going to cost. Some of these charging networks place large holds on your card. Then I have heard people then going on down the road and try to charge and then their card is denied and they have to fight with the CPO and the bank while stranded out on the road. Great time. It is probably a good idea to have 2 methods of payment in case something strange happens like this on your primary payment method.
Thanks for putting up the maps. That helps us understand where you are, or the area you are talking about. When I hear people talking about how we have the chargers we need. What this tells me is that person goes no where off of the main beaten path, ever tries to go the shortest route between point A and B in rural areas for any reason. Their lack of knowledge shows. We need a LOT more DCFC. Make the gas station great again and put chargers everywhere you have a gas station. I 100% agree driving an EV has an element of adventure to it and I like it. Having to stop for a charge I thought would be a real problem, but it really hasn't turned out that way. It forces me to stop, see something I would not have seen, and it makes for a more relaxed trip as long as I know I have a place I can charge.
Oh, just another food for thought. Most EV's today don't even come with a spare tire. Imagine being out here in the middle of nowhere and no spare and having a problem. At least Ford gives you an option for a spare tire on the Lightning. I hope they don't change this with the T3. Cybertruck, nope, Silverado, nope, Sierra, nope, Rivian, nope... Ford is the only ones with a spare option. If you drive in remote areas having a spare is just common sense.
All brilliant points and I 100% agree with every single one of them.
I'm just leaving Sault St. Marie as I type this. A city of 80,000 on the Canada side - and only 3 working DCFC, all at 5kw.
It truly is pathetic how these 'pumps' are not regulated, and reqiuired to be certified, calibrated, and maintained in the same manner. Gov'ts on every side of every aisle still treat these things as novelties rather than critical infrastructure.
Not a single public dime should go to any charger install that does not include a binding agreement to the units uptime and reliability., That would be a step.
Thanks for contributing to the conversation!
@@truckedupevs Need to take some prostitutes, ummm, I mean politicians out on some EV road trips and intentionally take a route that is going to give them the flavor of being stranded, struggling to get a charge, or massively delayed due to crippled or nonexistent infrastructure. If you never been out there and had to feel how helpless you are when you are broke down, or can't get fuel then it isn't going to seem urgent to you. Once you can personalize it by experience then you learn compassion and maybe something will get done. Happy trails my friend. Looking forward to the next video!
Along with the companies exploiting the 'green' play and then not maintaining their chargers like they do their gas pumps.
Always great comments. Thanks again
@@truckedupevs Funny Tesla doesn't seem to have a problem keeping their chargers online and operational. Odd right? Something has to change for sure. The more I follow guys from Europe we were originally told they didn't have these charger problems, but it appears that isn't true either.
Great video! FYI, Kindersley has a couple FLO chargers at the Tesla supercharger site, think they are only 50kw, but better than nothing.
Thanks for the info! I think it's a newer install, but I might be wrong. Good to hear!
Saskatchewan.Summer,hot and windy.Winter,cold and windy.The rest of the time,just windy.Prety flat,too.
LMAO!
But what I want to know is...
Is it windy?
Coop sucks in Alberta, OLDS is always broken , Carstairs always broken or only 40kwh, Flo works better, just call the 1 800 and they would of got you going! And yes it is getting expensive, Pixel park in Calgary is $1 a kwh!
I found the same with co-ops in Alberta. As you go east they improve dramatically, except for Red River Co-ops in Winnipeg, which equally suck.
Guess it depends on the co-op.
"Prince Albert"? So Canada has a city named after one of the better drug store pipe tobaccos? Cool!!!
LMAO!
46:45 Looks like you are limited to up to 100kW @ 500V. You are probably current limited to 200A, or 80kW.
To charge at 160kW: you would need an 800V battery.
Lightnings charge at 155kw, according to both the truck and the Ford website. I have often reached higher. At Tesla yesterday, I was at 175kw for about 12 minutes.
I charged at a Petro Canada in Sudbury today and stayed at 124kw until I unplugged. Highly variable units at Petro Canada, and often they're down.
Check the taxes on your charging. Tesla SuperChargers in the US are at the highest are in the high 40 cents per KWh (I've seen) - non-members / non-teslas are typically 10 cents more. In my experience it's higher in blue states where the taxes are higher. According to searching, the average cost is .25 cents/Kwh in the US.
Taxes between each province in Canada have a negligible effect, especially since all the other chargers are not having the same spread challenge. Even if we take the exchange rate into consideration, let's add 30%?
I paid $1.00/kwh today in Ontario! That's 300%
I have decided to stop using them wherever possible because the costs are frequently double everything else.
Musk is bilking Canada for Supercharger use. Borderline criminal.
@@truckedupevs $1.00/kwh is ridiculous. I've gotta believe there's other forces at work here, Musk seems like a stand up guy. I don't see him hurting people because of a border. I'm wondering if there's some sort of tax or tariff on foreign businesses?
@@hieyeque1 No. We have other companies that are not Canadian all over the place. I just saved 45% walking across the street and using a slower charger at Shell in Sault St. Marie.
I would beg to differ that Musk is a 'stand up guy' but I don't talk politics on my channel. However, I notice that any time anything factually accurate is said that just happens to undermine Tesla, suddenly it gets political. Red state, blue state, or 'it's the taxes', etc.
As a clearer example, 9km across the border on the US side the Tesla Supercharger shows up in my app at 45 cents for non members. On the Canadian side, it's 75 cents, and then 85 cents at the next Canadian location where there are no competitive chargers in the area.
Tesla is overcharging because it can, and thinks its the only game in town and, in some cases, it is. We need far more competition to step up to the plate because competition drives down prices, and that's not Tesla's fault - but gouging certainly is.
@@hieyeque1 No, Musk is a Fascist.
"The Loops" are designed to block rail, so that he can sell more cars.
I agree. I’ve never seen anything over 40 cents at Tesla SC in Texas. I think it should be the same price pretty much anywhere.
41:00 if by "Juice" you mean enel-X: they will stop working on Friday, October 11. 2024
If by "Juice" you mean "JuiceBar": Their website says: "No Longer In Business"
That's JuiceBox by Enel-X. Not sure who the underlying owner is, but the install were by the brand Juice at that particular Ford dealership.
@@truckedupevs Yeah Enel-X is shutting down all North American operations on Friday.
@@truckedupevs I talked to Bruce at Royal Ford.
He explained that it was just "Juice".
He apparently got the equipment directly from Ford.
@@jamesphillips2285 I thought that was the case. Enel-X's charger unit designs are different in shape and style. Good to know it won't be affected.
@@truckedupevs Apparently even Juicebox chargers are going to keep working for the time being.
They got a lot of feedback over just "bricking" the charging network, including a NHTSA investigation after 6 complaints.
Your Electric pickup is running on coal or natural gas, Alberta almost all natural gas, Saskatchewn natural gas and coal. Never mind the subsidies involved in rebates for you buying an EV, or all our public dollars installing electric charging stations, powered by coal and natural gas. In more remote areas, diesel generators hiding behind a building where we the public paid for an electric vehicle charging station. Saving the planet, ya right.
Lol. You dont get it
My truck runs almost exclusively on hydro - I'm in BC - no coal or natural gas. I received no incentives.
Same can't be said for every single processing cycle of internal combustion.
The largest user of energy in Canada - the Oil & Gas sector, burns coal & natural gas to make electricity that then gets wasted in extracting, processing, shipping, and refining the oil and gas to then burn the oil and gas, which makes your whole statement quite funny.
It's the most inefficient means of creating locomotion since the coal-fired steam engine, especially when you factor in that every time your engine goes through its combustion cycle, over 70% of all that precious processed, refined, energy-intense fossil fuel never makes it to the tires as locomotion. It's lost in heat, and through the numerous down-cycles of pistons, cam shaft, crank shaft, transmission, differential and axle, not to mention fuel pumps, oil pumps, serpentine belts, fans, power steering pumps, etc. None of which exists in an ev. 91% of every electron makes it to the tires in the form of torque.
Even if every electron for an ev was made with coal, it's still more efficient from incubation (mining, manufacturing) to end use, compared to internal combustion vehicles. I can provide you numerous studies, both corporate and public, to back this up. Can you back up any of your claims?
I guess you also overlooked the $27 billion in taxpayer $s that went to O&G just last year - and that's just in Canada, and the fact that the Alberta Tar Sands lost money from 1972 until the late 1980s and were subsidized billions annually from provincial and federal funding to prop up its 3:1 losses per barrel.
Your 'case' is so full of holes, It really is a wasted effort to keep debating such obvious misinformation, especially as you fill up your tank with the largest recipient of public funds to private co.s in the last 50 years.
The Trans Mountain Pipeline fiasco - one project out of hundreds of O&G corporate-welfare deals - took more public funds for a single project than the entire individual, corporate, and institutional ev incentive programs combined.
Hey, here's an idea so you don't keep wasting so many people's time having to re-hash this garbage over and over again:
Try using Google - I hear everyone is doing it.
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@@truckedupevsI bought my 2024 XLT from am Ford. Love to meet up one day when you make it back to the koots. Thanks for being the ambassador you are.
@@Ranbuowsatrawarriar Absolutely. Reach out to me again in November in case I forget. Sounds like a local Trucked Up Coffee Stop is developing!