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INDIA 🇮🇳 SHOULD TOTALLY CONCENTRATE IN THE MANUFACTURING OF JET ENGINES STARTING FROM TRAINERS TO COMMERCIAL ⚚ AIR CRAFTS OF VARIOUS CATEGORIES.....IT SHOULD BE DIFFERENT DEDICATED INDUSTRY BY ITSELF.
Your way to describe the technology with core knowledge is really appreciated. A person with technical background can only describe things so deep and accurate.
video dekte huye yaad aya ki,
May be hame SAFRAN ki M88 core use krke KAVERI ko revive krne wali proposal ko accept kr lna chahiye tha.
Then HAL Helicopter programs ki trha matters thode easy ho skte the
We should select French Engines for Tejas MK-2, AMCA and TEDBF.
Well accept the fact, we got played by USA. They'll do some settlement with China and we are out of the picture😂😅
its like expecting lion to eat grass and fox is innocent as rabbit
If we look at specifications of GTRE Kaveri K9 and GE404, we see that Kaveri engine has an peak output equal to that of GE404. The only problem with this engine is that it is 100-120 Kg too heavy. Since, Kaveri is an old design with old tech, there is scope for improvement in metallurgy and thus reduction in weight. If our people succeed in decreasing the weight by 100 Kg, its thrust and stability will increase. A JV with Snecma would have provided us the tech and know-how for the same. We could be working simultaneously on all our engine needs through this JV Kaveri K9 for Tejas Mk1 & 1a, Snecma M88 upgarded engine for Tejas Mk2 and Tedbf, New 130 KN engine for AMCA Mk1 and Mk2. Moreover, we would have time for all the projects.
How does it handle the creep marred by the earlier prototypes?
Bhai Ek BAAT btao man lo hum prototype bna Le uske Baad koi panga ho gya America ke Sath unhone engine Dena band kar diya fir Kya karenge hum fir to gya Pura prototype jab tak deal nahi ho jati America ke Sath tab tak prototype nahi banana chaiye varna vo deal Mai aur Jada amount demand karenge
Agry.
Sahi baat hai. Isliye I am in support of engine clause clubbed with Development fund.
ORCA program shuru karvana jaruri hai. 2 x Kaveri engines lagao, aircraft ki weight kum karo aur maximum weapon payload ko bhi kum karo.
Hojayenga.
ORCA thora under-powered hoga phir bhi, magar ake sanction proof aircraft milenga. Ghubrane ki koei baath nehi uske baad sanctions ki bare mey.
Price bhi kum hojayenga 2 x Kaveri ki vajey sey.
Ye he sub sey better option hai.
Engine change is not a big deal ..
IMHO in coming 2 to 3 decades, once China is weakened USA will shift it's target towards India, i.e. trade war, global propaganda sanctions etc.
USA will make khalistan issue similar to what Taiwan issue is today.
we will again see USA helping Pakistan with arms and diplomacy like we see them offering weapons to India nowadays.
In Bangladesh they might prepare a version of extremist akin to mujahideen who will fight in the name of religion.
They are already trying to penetrate Nepal's influential circle via MCC and other grants.
Finally in south they anyway have Diego garcia.
Best would have been to explore M88 engine deal than depending on a untrustworthy partner in US.
My friend did his internship 2 months ago in nal and they are building one Tejas mk2 and it's almost ready
Bhai no need to mention his father works there etc.Bachpana dikhta hai isme
@@anantgautam2485 kardiya
I am not an expert in Aircraft. But still would like to suggest. The latest version of the Kaveri engine is slightly under powered compared to the GE404 engine used on the Mk1. However, since it is locally produced, costs will be definitely lower. So 2 of these kaveri engines can produce more power than the GE414 engine proposed for the MK2. We may remember that after the first flight of the Tejas MK1, the MK2 was presented as MCA--Medium Combat Aircraft with a twin engine configuration. ADA had proceeded to a great length in Design of this aircraft. So if this design can be revived with 2 kaveri engines, we can completely eliminate foreign dependency on engines. Higher costs should not matter here as, everything will be under our control. The kaveri engines are also being sold for marine applications like Ship propulsion, Power generation etc.
Lekin engine ka ek thos intejam to ho. Hamesha dekha Gaya he US par critical defence eqpt ko lekar bharosa karna mushkil he aur France sirf high price me bechne me interested he, technology transfer bilkul nahi. Humko akhirkar Aisa technology development me atma nirvar hona hi he, karna hi padega.
Isse better approach to China ne ki.. Russia k sath kam krke.. Khudki bhot badi fleet bana li.. Or 5th gen fighter bhi.. Russian engines ko hum bhi modify kr skte the, or TOT bhi krdeta tha easily 😊
If Tejas MK2 gets ready to fly by 2030 it will be a big surprise.
😊😊😊😊
Sare experts comment section me 😂
Regardless of the patriotic posts it is necessary to finalize the Technology transfer deal with USA without further delay. Both the Prime Minister of India and the President of USA have announced the seal; why the delay now?
USA can be very tough and unyielding with respect to contractual clauses and if this deal is aborted there will be indefinite delay and the loss will be India's.India knew or should have known Cancellation of the deal will mean a terrible loss of face for India.All the more reason that the Safran agreement for the new development of the engine for AMCA also needs to be finalized- with better commercial terms. And for Heaven's sake- no delay. The strength of our Fighter fleet is at stake.
No
Don't give me hope🤕🤧😢😖
We need to start manufacturing jet engines on our own as soon as possible. That's the key to our future progression in making us "Atmanirbhar"
2026 for a 17 ton aircraft like Tejas Mk2 is very very considerable delay... AMCA should've come till 2026
AMCA till 2026 ? 😂😂😂
Bhai AMCA ki First flight 2030 se pehle nhi hone waali kisi bhi haal me or Airforce me induction hote hote 2035 ho jaayega easily. I think india ko F35 le lena chahiye USA se toh be on the safer side and 5th Generation Capabilities ke liye atleast 40- F35 toh le hi lene chahiye like 10-15 for Navy and 30-35 for Airforce.
@@nxp2619 ha wahi to bolra hu. Amca ana chahiye tha 2026 tak. Same goes with FMBT, new supercarrier, Project 18 destroyer, SSN. 2025-26 tak ye sab full operational hona chahiye tha looking at China. Well...
Tejulaal❤
Don't be hopeful 2027 is the timeline...
it will be more delayed, for sure
Tejas MK - II ko Power dene wala Engine ka keya huya ?
Ye to theek hai lekin light tank ka kya hua vo to december me unveil hone wala tha 🤔
Abhi December aaya kanha hai ? Bat December ki hui thi ! Kon se Sal ka December ye nhi
@@UnknownGunman10 isi saal
@@UnknownGunman10😂😂
Indians will keep bouncing back and forth between three engine makers and still won't learn that huge investment is required to develop their own jet engine.
Boss what about EW of mwf does it mach to spectra or gripen EW.
Can you please make a video about m346fa va lca tejas. Also tell u r audiance about parts interoperability issue raised about Tejas, meaning one part of Tejas aircraft can not be used on other Tejas airceaft ex canopies
Please tell me why is the payload of tejas mk2 less than of gripen e (6500kg vs 7200kg) as both use same engine GE F414 ?
Sasta padega ki if we also get a couple of engines from France and also make the prototypes interoperable /integratable with both 414 and the French engine. That will help get us quicker and better deal from one of the vendors. It’s more work and some wasted cost but will prove cheaper and beneficial in long run.
The rollout will take 2026 and first flight in 2027. The certification will take another 3 years. Manufacturing will take atleast 2032. For getting the first squandron, we will have to wait until 2035 or later.
Hamara apna kaveri 2.0 bhi near complition hai aur hamari baat Safran se chal Rahi hai, unhone Tejas mk2 ke sub variant ke liye apne rafale ke naye engine ka proposal Diya hai agar amca main deri hoti hai toh Tejas mk 2 a ke naam se stealth variant banaya Jaa sakta hai jo mk2 ki American engine problem ko cover kar dega aur vaise bhi engine problems American elections ki vajah se ho Rahi hai elections ho Jane ke baad yeh permanently sort out ho jayaengi
Kitna kaam hoga aur kitna samay chahiye to make required changes on developed Tejas MK2 to incorporate indigenously developed engine.
If we can developed engine in 10 years , why to order so many f414s .
Engine par pehle hi kaam shuru kia hota tho shayad saare Tejas MK2 would come with indigenous engine. Just like Russia and China , build prototype jets and test with existing engine and once engine is ready perform final tests and start bulk production.
Should have chosen a Russian or French engine.. Wouldn't have been at par the us ones but there would have been no headache.. Then in future could have replaced with indigenous options when ready..
this is perfect caste for further developing the #tejas mk3 twin engine aircraft that will eventually replace the #su30mki from 2045
Why re-designing Tejas, AF version of TEDBF, ie, ORCA can easily be made with 2x Kaveri engines. Presently Kaveri produces wet thrust of 81kn which is even higher than 🇫🇷M88
Chona pro max 💯
Yahan say problem start hoti hai agar firsr induction june 2026 tak ho bhi jaye tejas mk2 ki dosri taraf jf17 block 3 120 plus aircraft induct kar chuka hoga jabki jahan tejas mk2 ki first flight hogi jf17 block 3 apnay sabke sab squadrons complete kar chuka hoga
It's far more important to develop our own than purchase same class aircraft which give no extra benefits. I agree with the Parliamentary Committee, that if we have to purchase 114 combat aircraft from abroad, they should be 5th generation.
according tarmak media house roll out is possible bt 2025 mid, and i am optimistic about it
Good morning Sir
Reality
Tejas mk 2 -First flight 2028
Induction 2032-33
Kuch nhi honee walaaa
Possible solution for the mess could be to scrap MMRCA; Negotiate with france for combined deal of Rafale and TOT on an uprated variant of M88 engines which may later be used for replacing or as back up of GE 414.
Given current situation GE 414 should not be the prototype engine for either AMCA or TEDBF - no matter the increased cost and design changes!!
agree with you!
Sarkari babus wont just let anything happen that smoothly unless their pockets are filled
Yes, India needs to arm twist US by starting negotiations with France for the engines, just the way US is openly arm twisting India. India did a big mistake by choosing US for such a critical component, they need to make better decisions in their foreign policy. Trustig the most unreliable country in the world for the most critical component is plain stupid.
Dassault won't agree the bullshit offset clause.
@@vipulgupta You should know that M-88 itself is based on F404 design, I can almost be certain that safran have no tech to develop 130KN level middle sized turbobfan.
First flight in 2022☕
please, make a video on South Korea's Sejong the great class destroyer
INDIAN AIR FORCE MAY BE REPLACE THE MIG 21 BISON FIGHTER JET SQUADRON TO HAL TEJAS MK1A FIGHTER JET SQUADRON IN SURATGARH AIR FORCE STATION (RAJASTHAN) 🚁🛫🛬🛩️✈️
I wish we had recd success in developing fighter jet engines. Many of these problems wud have been solved and tejas mk2 wud be flying in air.
I want to take this time to wish each and every one of you all a very merry Christmas! May God bless each and everyone here. My Christmas wishes:
1. Tejas MK-2 makes it's FF before 2027 and gets inducted before 2030. Santa kamse kam yeh wish ko pura dhe.
We have to be fleible wiith GE414 Engines, its unlikely that any concrete steps will be taken till our Elections mid 2024, I hope there's not any further delays with prototype development and first flight, this makes me worried about TEDBF and AMCA, with TEDBF being an urgent demand for indian NAVY
Sarkar funds deney mey deri kyo raksha mamaley mey itani deri kyo hosakta hey vedeshi viman ley par funds to vaha bhi dena padega 2022 ka kam 2026 mey 4sal ku deri
Why don't we make safran engine with France for both Mark 2 and Amca
India is developing fighterjet very slowly
We put all our eggs in one bucket.
Is it not a dangerous move!!??
If you want a backbone for our future of Air, then make it quickly as well as versatile. Make some with Russian and French engines also.
Develop a engine with Rolls-Royce 🙏
Atleast humay 300+ 3D models bnane chaiye china ko attack krnay k liye😂
Jai hind
Where can i watch this interview , can someone give me link ?
When will this fly. In 2021 it was told that, the covid will not affect development of MK2. There will be a slight delay of 6months and it was committed that 1st flight would happen between Aug2023 to May2024. But now in Feb 2024, still roll out also has not happened
Goverment is absolutely right paying for somthing which is not usable when needed... Specially in war,..we all know about Americans...so first tot then progress should made is right way..or 2nd option should be open as well ..indigenous .
We should secretly reverse engineered the existing F414 engine,if America denied TOT
Aj kal drone turup ka ekka sabit ho rahey hey
Sarkar engine hi decide nahi karegi jaldi🤣
Hal is interested in cooking millets
LATE LATIFI KA DUSRA NAAM INDIAN GOVT.
I just wonder how incompetent and compromised our defense industry is just by looking at the delays.
Take help of Rashiya to improve Kaweri jet engine upto 120 KN.
guys i am from the future and its 2108. Tejas mk2 is still in development
We will never be able to call ourselves a true self reliant country if our military dependency lies on foreighn players.
*Strongly focus on Indigenously develop Tejas Mk2 Fighter Jet Aircraft*
Sir bahut muskil hai
Its okay... Agar aaj he first flight hokr sare testing v complete krde tab v IAF order nhi karne wala abhi...Reasons-
1.Lack of Funds
2. All lines are busy in Mk1a
3. Life of Mirages, Mig29s, Jaguars still remaining...
Remember Mk2 will replace Mirages, Mig29s, Jaguars... Its okay if it is delayed.....
U know squadrons r already lower then required for us... To koi raah ni dekhenga to retire them & baad me naye induct karne k liye.. 🙄
@@deltaandD7516@deltaandD7516 for that govt. Should procure 114 rafale... Instead of doing nautanki....
Still 1st and 2nd reason remains valid
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ 4 squadron turant le jai hind su 57
Mk1a and mk 2 having same time line does not add up.
No one buy mk1a, if mk2 is available at the same time.
Something is missing.
A diversion from what is actually going on inside Indian aviation sector.
Tejas mk2 kya Mai ab TEDBF/ORCA or AMCA par news ab mai engine deal jo shyad nhi hogi uske baad hi dekhunga tab Tak kuch nhi hoga bekar ki bate hai tab Tak
Kya ham RD 33 engine k sath nhi ja skte
For Mk1 not this
2030 first flight
We are very poor in metallurgy and crystal technology of jet engines.
All thanks to brain drain and resevations....we still after 23 year cant make jet engine
Do we have a good Aeronautical Complex?
No
@@ChandranPrema123 true.... But when our top students go abroad and contribute to their research...then how can we develop our own world class aeronautical complex
Our governments Never put any good money in our aerounautical complex.
Government start jet Engein program but never give any support like metallurgical support and industrial support.
Then we litteraly have no engine testing facilities even today. Even Gtre saying to government to made Mig-29 as High altitude test bad to save money.
People bark in kaveri project we waste money they realy know , government only put peanut size money in Engein program and always delay the funding.
And then stop the program 10 year ago at very critical stage.
Our R&D budget in defense is very low.
I agree Reservation system is become a shi*t with full of Corruption. But we currently can't completly blame everything on it currently. Our beuracacy is also biggest problem.
😌 let's supposed , it's manufactured , is it really capable of facing F-16s , J10Cs , and JF17s ?
made in China ka mukabla kon kar sakta.. Allah hi sirf inko uda sakte hi gadhe ke sath
Better to make 3 prototypes with GE, Eurojet and Snecma engines and see which performs better and is made available to us more easily. That should put some pressure on the engine manufacturers and give us the best solution.
You need to know how integration is done. In order to fully study engine performance they need 8 to 10 engine at initial phase. Currently they have got 8 to 10 F414 for initial test and those engines dont get integrated into an aircraft.
By your logic we will need around 27 to 30 engines just for the initial performance testing. Its a stupid idea.
@@shaksham.22 8 to 10?? who said that we need at max 2 engine to develop the power system dynamics flight dynamics and mathematical model and sensor dac adc
@@akashnepak504 i dont have data on how many exact number of engines are used as testing specimens but HAL had received 8 414 engines for lca mk 2
Even if all dont get used for testing, its still a high number
@@shaksham.22 i am from iit kanpur so profs here work closely with both ada/ade , you see u need engines at that high number when you are developing the engines like flight tetsiong valdiating high altitude tetsing but f414 is already validated at all the parameters we just need to integrate into the aircraft so more focus is not power distribution system, control system and high speed serial interfaces
@@shaksham.22 Maybe it's a stupid idea but you should know that many aircrafts were designed to use different engines. As Mark 2 is in design phase, it's worth any ideas to try to keep it sanction free. If one takes that much time to develop Kaveri, what alternatives do you have? If I am not mistaken, Rafale prototypes also used different engines. Maybe working with different engines will also help in indigenous engine programme.
2027 bola hai tooo 2030 mann kr chalo 😂😂😂😂
I'm not even joking
First thing is who are those Gyani Babus who stopped the fund for development until engine deal is not done? Why to stop development.. at least we could have done testing other components before engine for production is received
So prototype roll out 2026
First flight 2027
Testing till 2031
Limited series production??
DAC AON 2033
Ccs approval 2036
Delivery start 2037
...
One think clear
HAL and MoD are killing this programme.
When original announement of first flight in 2024, didn't anybody know about the CCS fund release clause? Either Indian officials are too incompetent to read legal documents carefully or people lied to the public and maybe also to elelcted memebrs of the govt. responsible for their accountability. Both cases require further and immediate investigation. Otherwise this jet will never fly.
India ka her kam Bollywood se inspire he, model based, 3d based, ye based wo based. Bhai kehna Kya chahte ho😅 seedha bolo nai bn raha
sab moh maya hai. ye videshi log hame khabhi technical advance cheese nahi dene wale.
angrejo ki psychology janwari wali hai unko bas zinda rehna hai. ishliye wo sabse dare rehte hai.
pata nahi ye desh ka governance kab thik hoga. pura system langda hai. but hatsoff to scientists and engineers for making efforts in this langda system
Subh Tulsi pujan divas & merry Christmas bhaiyo
10 years me Turkey Iran 6th gen Fighters operate karenge aur hum 4th gen. Forget about China Usa Europe. Thats bad for us
One thing I know as an Indian nothing happens on time so 2026 is not possible (maybe 2046)
Slowly moving towards Pakistan desighn 🤣🤣👍
We should have gone with russian engines. They are less efficient but atleast we would not have been made to beg. And kept hanging.
Chalta hai...Modi hai to mumkin hai.
Arrey tejas mein pehle uttam AESA Radar hi laga lo aur squadron khara karo wahi abhi badi baat hai.. Frustation ki bhi koi hadh hota hai
Wasnt MK2 was suppose to be twin engine ?
Correct me if i am wrong and please update me on this 🙏
2ndly how far can we rely on Americans for engine ?
Why dont we deal with Germany or Russia and get something new ?
Not before 2030.
तेजस मार्क 2 दूसरा HF marut बनने जा रहा है. यह प्रोजेक्ट फेल हो गया है. ना सरकार ना हल तेजस मार्क 2 के लिए गंभीर है.
Mk2 2027 ko ayega ye sarkar ka failuar hai
Ok then, you go and convince USA for signing engine deal
BJP government should given bharat ratna for ordering Americans engine 😅
Why isn’t there any video on Rajouri attack? 5 Soldiers of 48 RR have been martyred during ambush from terrorist. Their bodies were mutilated and beheaded. Why isn’t anybody talking about this? Shouldn’t we all be supporting our soldiers? Paid media won’t talk about it, atleast defence forums should be talking.
Sab ko check me le k chlna chiye chae gf ho ya America
Mt bnao isko only amca or TDF bnao
Yaar.. humare India hamesha late q hota h ree . Harr chij bann ne par itna samay lag jata hai. Humare desh 4.5 gen ka Fjet bana ne m laga hua h . Or itna samay laga deta hai. Or dusre Desh wahi time par 5 gen Fjet bana leta hai.y
ONLY SC ST should make this jet , to make it the best in World 😂😂😂😂
bhai ye american politicians h he dhokebaaj
I've been watching these channels since ages. Let me tell you one thing, do not believe any timeline that they tell you. Aaj Tak Ghanta kuch time pe nai hua hai ,Aur na he ho paiga . Mark-2 will take at least 10 years from now to finally start getting inducted in the IAF. ( likh ke le lo 😊). HAL and ADA like to put their leg in as many boats at a time meanwhile lack the functionality and Manpower to deliver anything proper and On schedule. This chain of Doing R&D of 5 different projects at the same time for such less production is hurting us really badly . Take France for example, They're experienced yet focus on 1 or 2 major programs at a time. A team for enhancement of Already mastered Rafael ( F-4 for example) and Rest manpower for R&D for their 5+ or so called 6th gen fighter . They are not developing 5 different fighters at the same time ,Rather enhancing what they have and Focusing on the future.
Yaha Us be like , Tejas is flying with 1980s computers while being manufactured in 2023😅, lakin R&D me Mark-A bhe hai , Mark-2 bhe hai , TEDBF bhe hai AMCA bhe hai and Omni Role fighter bhe tha pehle and Aur bhe 1-2 projects the . 😂. Uttam radar , Kaveri engine se leke so many projects that could have used funds and Manpower get compromised because of this shit . And then they leave the IAF starving and Pilots dying in 50 year old machines and not let them induct Foreign Fighters ke Ghar pe to khana ban he raha hai na , to McDonald's me kyu khaie. Bhaisab Ghar pe ban rahi hai Beerbal ke Khichdi , These are the same youtubers who used to say that deal should be scrapped because 2024 se we'll start getting Tejas Mark-2s with almost same capabilities as Rafales 😂😂. Yakeen na ho to purane videos me Jake deakh lo .