Love love love the Old World. I wish that I wasn’t so busy today, I’d watch the whole thing in one sitting. One thing that I noticed; when the gyrocopter fled the charge, the troll chargers will still do a charge roll, and they have to move their full charge distance at the gyrocopter. Unless they chose to and can redirect.
I love this channel!! My main go to for Old world content. You play the game with such fun and enthusiasm and all your hosts seems such genuine, great people. Keep it up
Awesome, at last the Square Based representation we've been waiting for! I have the impression the dwarves resolute rule was missed a few times: -1 to all flee and pursuit moves. Those boys don't move so fast.
Val is an awesome Guy ^^ Having him paired with Bard was the setup one needs for great laughts, funtimes and all manners of silly things... also... MOTHER!!! ^^
I don’t play old world, or aos but after visiting Warhammer world and seeing games like these, ( and also the incredible painting is part of this but) damn the sculpts are nice!
You know life is getting weird when the mrs turns around sees I'm watching warhammer and just yells look its your people XD to which all I can say is that's a grudge XD
Bard "Some of these models may be older than I am" Me sees blacklining painting style "Yup" then I realise I'm old enough that I bought them first time round.....
Fun report! My biggest critique though would be it seemed like the dwarf army was heavily tailored to fight trolls which (just my opinion) is less exciting than a rounded army
What a battle! The dice gods certainly were fickle! I’m guessing the dwarf list being a little more optimised to fight trolls was to account for Val’s storied history with warhammer fantasy. Would be interesting to see some more “scenario” based battles for fantasy. Ambushes, last stands, hold the bridge… etc. Great stuff team
I think it was more to account for Trolls potentially rolling right through the poor dwarfs unopposed. We tweaked a few things and I think we kinda nailed the balance for the purposes of a battlereport anyway. Also doesn't help that I'm not exactly gods gift to warhammer, despite my enthusiasm haha
@@valheffelfinger6521 ahh thanks for the context. I didn’t realise that was a legit concern with TrollvDwarf. Trolls have a lot of advantages… but seemed pretty balanced with negatives. But thats just on paper. Need to play more! I’m currently getting a troll hoard together. When i was a kid i’d have my grubby nose pressed up against the glass of the local hobby store… OBSESSED with those old river troll models. So finally i’ll have an army of them. Anyway. Cracking content team! Thanks
@jimirowe7006 yeaaaahhhhh. For example had we not had flaming on the cannons I'd have saved over half of all the Cannon ball shots (5+ rerolling). Had there been great weapons on the Trolls they'd have wounded on 2s vs everything... and had I screened the giants with trolls (which I would have in a competitive situation) the giants would gave essentially been untargetable (can't see the spot to land beyond the Trolls, and can't bounce a cannonball through monsters.) It was actually a pretty amazing collaborative effort off camera. And probably the most genuinely "narrative" driven game I've ever played (in the sense that we played together to make an entertaining game first and foremost). Definitely a great vibe on set!
Great batrep guys !!! Thank you :) I noticed that often in your channels, you tend to take very few characters, usualy 2 or 3. Is that what the meta looks like, or is it a choice. Personnally I love my heroes, and I wonder if you are shooting yourself in the foot going for fun heroes instead of more meat.
fast brains square off, the speed of the tete-a-tete and rules processing is truly awe inspiring, they're operating on a higher plane and caught on camera. Im going to show this to my wife to show that men can communicate like this too
@19:17 When the Charge target Flees you can only follow through with the Charge or redirect, you cant restrain. If you do continue the Charge it is still a full charge move so Charging units move their Movement plus Charge roll (high die) EVEN IF THEY DON'T CATCH the fleeing unit. Fleeing when your unit is 1" away is almost never a good idea as the 2d6 or even 3d6 you move is rarely more than the Charging unit's Move + charge roll.
A great battle report, the guys are really fun and the models look superb, it just bugs me that they made such a glaring rules oversight with the trolls and the hag charging the gyro that fled, that would change the whole flow of the battle
When you redress ranks (or have the Drilled rules), can the Command Group be repositioned in the centre of the fighting rank like in any other manoeuvre or you must redress around it?
The ravenous recourse spell - I didn't think it could be used for charging as its a conveyance spell and is cast in remaining moves after charges are done? Around the 1 hour mark.
By far, the most entertaining bat rep I have seen for TOW. Two thematic armies and two very entertaining generals. Bravo!
Thanks man!
I am a simple man, I see Val, I spend the next 2h glued to my screen.
1.4 hours achhhktually 😢
Amen brother
Careful with glue
I said to Lawrence that if this report gets to 100k views I'll ship him Smalls
MAKE IT HAPPEN!
“I don’t really know what’s happening, but I’m excited” - Bard.
Sums up my life really
Val: Hi, I'm Val Hefelfinger!
Me: Oooo, visitor's curse! Get used to rolling lots of 1s!
Val: I'm playing The Bard!
Me: Oh. Could go either way, then.
Nothing beats the classic Dwarfs Vs horde of Greenskins match up.
Really enjoyed this one guys, it's been sitting on my watch list for ages - wish I'd watched it sooner! Love the Old World
Just went all in on Old World Dwarves. Love these models. Love this Bat Rep.
Crazy to see Val on the channel! I'm not a big old world fan but great to see him get some appreciation.
A rare Grim After Dark fan?
@SquareBasedOldWorld just a fan of the honestwargamer/square based show 🙂
Best one yet, love the energy and ethos of trying for a fun game over pure competitiveness. Keep it coming please!
I went back to Canada but hopefully these fellas can carry on without me.
man old world content just equals views and engagement ^^ keep it coming we need more of this.
How do you figure? The views have had a steep drop every video so far.
That troll general was the best most entertaining man you have had in your channel, ever!
And he took is shitty hit rolls like an absolut champ :)
Love love love the Old World. I wish that I wasn’t so busy today, I’d watch the whole thing in one sitting. One thing that I noticed; when the gyrocopter fled the charge, the troll chargers will still do a charge roll, and they have to move their full charge distance at the gyrocopter. Unless they chose to and can redirect.
And most likely they would have caught the gyro and killed it
Val, you made this a special night for me. Squarebased FTW, glory to TT!
😂 RIP to Bonecrusher. Great episode, very well done battle report.
I love your battreps you picture how that game should be played! Give us more hungry students and splashed folks!
Square based shout out, great to finally watch this long awaited battle report. You're a natural Val.
So good to see Val and the old world! Don't forget the resolute on the stunties. - 1 to pursuit etc.
Bard feeling a great responsibility to keeping the older than he is dwarves safe and in fighting shape is very thematic. Ancestors are watching 👀 😳 😅
first time watcher... loved it and love the slayers!!!!
Bard spinning around miming the great weapons.. 3 camera shots later still swinging. That got me.
you two have a great dynamic. Super fun game too!
The idea that the trolls are just hungry students makes a lot of sense
Fluorescent adolescents.
That’s going in the book.... of great videos. Keep up the great work.
Finally. Some decent entertainment!
Glad to see you found a cool mega Val...
I really enjoy these twos chemistry!
This was really fun! You can actually imagine the battle happening and many hilarious (but very bloody) things ensuing as well! Well done!
OMG I've been waiting for this one for *weeks*
I love this channel!! My main go to for Old world content. You play the game with such fun and enthusiasm and all your hosts seems such genuine, great people. Keep it up
In my case, they just did a really great job of editing
@@valheffelfinger6521 100% perfect editing to get a great flow but the hosts that make me laugh for sure as well
@@Monkboy666 lol I'm Val from this episode : ) ... I was joking though. I am indeed devastatingly charming and genuine.
@@valheffelfinger6521 😂😂 bravo 👏
Awesome, at last the Square Based representation we've been waiting for! I have the impression the dwarves resolute rule was missed a few times: -1 to all flee and pursuit moves. Those boys don't move so fast.
What a great report! Wonderful guest and great to see the Troll Horde.
Old World is fun to watch but i was never super interested in playing myself. This Troll army is actually getting me exited to possible give it a shot
THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
Val is an awesome Guy ^^ Having him paired with Bard was the setup one needs for great laughts, funtimes and all manners of silly things... also... MOTHER!!! ^^
I spy a Gotrek in that blob of slayers, absolutely fantastic battle report!
1:07:55 Remember Runes of Protection on Ironbreakers. 6+ ward save on any non-magical attacks.
I love the old world battle reports!
dodging vomit is definitely a good skill in university
Really enjoyed this. Both players were really fun and sporting.
We finally found somebody who can match the Bard for absurdly bad luck.
Poor Smalls. He tried his best.
Who? Lol
It just wasn't very good.
Thanks for the middle of the night upload so I have something to watch before I try to sleep again.
I am happy to see The Old World on this channel. 😀
Awesome Battle Report! Seeing the Trolls and all the Trollslayers was epic! Awesome video!
Hagatha Christie, what a name, what a Gal!
Val was a great opponent! Such a fun game!
I dont know why but those dwarf warrior models has so god damn much charm to them =D
I don’t play old world, or aos but after visiting Warhammer world and seeing games like these, ( and also the incredible painting is part of this but) damn the sculpts are nice!
The blue giant looks amazing
I was honoured to paint it for Val!!
The crossover I didn't know I needed
You know life is getting weird when the mrs turns around sees I'm watching warhammer and just yells look its your people XD to which all I can say is that's a grudge XD
I assume she was referring to the Trolls?
Super fun game. I was already thinking about troll hordes. This is actually selling me on them.
Bard "Some of these models may be older than I am"
Me sees blacklining painting style "Yup" then I realise I'm old enough that I bought them first time round.....
Excellent thanks team!
I love the old dwarf modles! DIGGY DIGGY HOLE!!!!
Fantastic looking armies, can't beat some Dwarf on Orc action.
Here for Val the man!
When your opponent chooses flee you dont make a pursuit move, you make a charge move. You would have squished a copter there
Dang it!
Also you cannot restraint a charge, you can either redirect it or run down the foe
Fantastic battle report. Great work!
Fun report! My biggest critique though would be it seemed like the dwarf army was heavily tailored to fight trolls which (just my opinion) is less exciting than a rounded army
Dwalin must have aimed that first cannonball. "Aim fer his jambags!"
Hagatha Christie! 🤣🤣
Please more OLD WORLD, great fun
SATISFY THE GRUDGE
Val is a breath of fresh air, talks clear and knows what he is doing (and no high pitched squeaky voice :p)
Yaaaaay fantasy! Yaaaay Val! Yaaaaay SquareBased!
Fantastic batrep. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Be good to see these generals battle again! Very entertaining.
What a battle! The dice gods certainly were fickle! I’m guessing the dwarf list being a little more optimised to fight trolls was to account for Val’s storied history with warhammer fantasy.
Would be interesting to see some more “scenario” based battles for fantasy. Ambushes, last stands, hold the bridge… etc.
Great stuff team
I think it was more to account for Trolls potentially rolling right through the poor dwarfs unopposed. We tweaked a few things and I think we kinda nailed the balance for the purposes of a battlereport anyway.
Also doesn't help that I'm not exactly gods gift to warhammer, despite my enthusiasm haha
@@valheffelfinger6521 ahh thanks for the context. I didn’t realise that was a legit concern with TrollvDwarf. Trolls have a lot of advantages… but seemed pretty balanced with negatives. But thats just on paper. Need to play more!
I’m currently getting a troll hoard together. When i was a kid i’d have my grubby nose pressed up against the glass of the local hobby store… OBSESSED with those old river troll models. So finally i’ll have an army of them.
Anyway. Cracking content team! Thanks
@jimirowe7006 yeaaaahhhhh. For example had we not had flaming on the cannons I'd have saved over half of all the Cannon ball shots (5+ rerolling). Had there been great weapons on the Trolls they'd have wounded on 2s vs everything... and had I screened the giants with trolls (which I would have in a competitive situation) the giants would gave essentially been untargetable (can't see the spot to land beyond the Trolls, and can't bounce a cannonball through monsters.)
It was actually a pretty amazing collaborative effort off camera. And probably the most genuinely "narrative" driven game I've ever played (in the sense that we played together to make an entertaining game first and foremost). Definitely a great vibe on set!
Woot! Ben waiting for this! 🍿🍿🍿
Is that troll slayer with the ear-nose chain where the description of Gotrek came from?
No, it’s the original Gotrek model!
Was a shame he wasn’t used as the Giant slayer, last one standing.
@15:45 you can see the bonegrinder as its a large target, everybody can see it over other bases
the cannon aims at a spot in the ground rather than a model, so the dwarven unit does block line of sight here.
Been anticipating more Old world content, so gla its trolls
Keep that TOW content coming! 🤩
THIS SEEMS LIKE A ELGI SCHEME!
SHORT!?
THAT'S GOING IN THE BOOK!
Val H is my spirit animal in mamajama pajamas!
Great batrep guys !!! Thank you :)
I noticed that often in your channels, you tend to take very few characters, usualy 2 or 3.
Is that what the meta looks like, or is it a choice.
Personnally I love my heroes, and I wonder if you are shooting yourself in the foot going for fun heroes instead of more meat.
What a fun game. Great entertainment!
Bard might be the tabletop tactic presenter I would be most concerned about welding an axe, like for his own safety
Great match, team. Very ….entertaining. 😉😂
By Grungi, it's finally happening
Yes... YES! TOW sweet goodness! I need more TOW BPs!
Man its all gifts of santa for dawi. Total war warhammer also getting dwarf dlc. So cool to see them on tabletop!
Beautiful armies, great players! Amazing guys, love the Old World content keep it coming! Where do you keep finding these great armies of old minis!?
Vals look to the camera “thanks rules 😎👉🏻” should be a T-shirt 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
fast brains square off, the speed of the tete-a-tete and rules processing is truly awe inspiring, they're operating on a higher plane and caught on camera. Im going to show this to my wife to show that men can communicate like this too
6:44 Going in the book for that one
Huh, Val looks exactly how he sounds
Not sure what that means but I'll take it!
@valheffelfinger6521 wonderful, is the answer to looking how you sound bud lol
Ahhh the Bard James is my Boi😂
Man, I love Dwarf armies. And this was a good matchup against tha Trolls! But that Slayers diss triggered me, i felt the pain of that one lol
Wait, Val has a nice head of hair??? I've never seen him hatless!!! Thanks for the battle rep!
Honestly it's because I'm tremendously lazy and just throw a hat on rather than combing it
@@SquareBasedOldWorldJust admit it. The hair has been CGIed!😂
@19:17 When the Charge target Flees you can only follow through with the Charge or redirect, you cant restrain. If you do continue the Charge it is still a full charge move so Charging units move their Movement plus Charge roll (high die) EVEN IF THEY DON'T CATCH the fleeing unit. Fleeing when your unit is 1" away is almost never a good idea as the 2d6 or even 3d6 you move is rarely more than the Charging unit's Move + charge roll.
Great one.
I truly hope we get more Old World episodes on this channel.
Nothing firm is coming yet as we focus on our RPG content 🙂
@@tabletoptacticsboooooo
A great battle report, the guys are really fun and the models look superb, it just bugs me that they made such a glaring rules oversight with the trolls and the hag charging the gyro that fled, that would change the whole flow of the battle
NOT TO MENTION HE DIDN'T TAKE GREAT WEAPONS!!! 😩 that is nerfing yourself so so hard
Just started
But what lovely painted models on both sides.
Can we get a Skaven Vs. Empire and Dark Vs. High Elfs
Would be great to get Vals social links in the description 😊❤
When you redress ranks (or have the Drilled rules), can the Command Group be repositioned in the centre of the fighting rank like in any other manoeuvre or you must redress around it?
The ravenous recourse spell - I didn't think it could be used for charging as its a conveyance spell and is cast in remaining moves after charges are done? Around the 1 hour mark.
Great video. Beautiful armies❤