Yamaha Tenere T700 UK to Africa long distance review
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- How does the Yamaha Tenere T700 shape up against the Honda CRF450L? Is it the perfect mid weight adventure bike?
Last Christmas Dave Lomax took the CRF450L on an epic 4000km adventure from Yorkshire to the dunes of Morocco. This year he did it again, but this time on the new T700.
Would the T700 be too heavy for the sand? Or would it be the perfect long distance adventure bike? - Авто та транспорт
the best review I've ever seen of this bike, honest, clear and experienced in a long term
Thank you.
he's a very good reviewer
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this one is not bad also
Informative but anti-succint
Agreed. Just what I wanted.
That might be most clear and honest review of a Moto I've watched on UA-cam. The context of the review and experience reviewer over an extended use of the intended purpose is so important and lost on many reviewers. Well done.
One of the BEST Reviews I have seen, so in depth with totally awesome explanations on all points. Thank you.
The motor in the MT-07 or T7 is such an awesome thing. Totally reliable and enough power to get it done.
Detailed and exceptionally precise, where others scratch the surface, in the parts that matter the most and the hardest to experience. That review can only be given by a true adventurist who’s been there, sharing deep true hard earned knowledge, and is solely trying to help others, unlike 99.9% of the reviewers.
This gave me the exact perspective I was looking for for years, not on the bike itself, but on those grey areas between adventure and dirt bikes in general.
This review is a charitable act to me.
One of the best top level motorcycle reviews I've seen. Great data use folded into real world needs. Well done!
Great review, actually the most honest review I have seen, well done
Great review. Your criticism of the bike - that it's too heavy to pick up when you fall in the dunes- is not a criticism of the bike, it's a criticism of the category. It's not a motocross bike, but it might be the perfect overlander's bike, which is the unicorn some of us were looking for.
I agree. A laden bike is never fun to pick up and I am still scratching my head how my old 85 XL600 was around 160kg, and these bikes have managed to gain 60kg with more advanced materials and manufacturing processes. I saw a 1993 TT250 the other day that was 119kg and the new CRF250 was around 160kg+.
Indeed it is the segment. The bikes are better, but also carrying significant heft and with that, risk, exhaustion, and expense perhaps.
Perfectly said, the overlander unicorn ❤
Love the honesty and detailed explanations of your pros/cons, experiences with the bike.
Brilliant video! Thank you! One nitpick: the loud jarring music on the transition slides had me scrambling to lower the volume every single time.
Thank you for yet another great review Dave.
I really like the format you have chosen - taking your time to formulate your experiences and views in a calm, honest and personal way.
I'm looking forward to hear your views on the bike after a season where you have put it through its paces back home.
Cheers
Tonny
One of the best reviews I've seen. Thank you!
You and Jimmy Lewis do the BEST bike reviews on the internet hands down. Thanks for your honesty.
Always great to see the guy who’s the voice of Races 2 Places . This was a great review and well thought out and thorough.
Thank you.
Thank you for the review. I hadn’t listened to/watched one of your videos before and I really liked your presentation.
Probably the best motorcycle review I've ever seen. Really appreciate the honesty. Thanks for posting
You’ve just about got me convinced to save for this thing!
Best honest review of the T7 so far 🤙🏾🤙🏾
Nothing like gaining new knowledge. Incredible review. Love the details.
I really like the way you holistically overview the bike throughout the video. You manage to portray to the viewer exactly what you mean and transmitting very subtle details of your experience of the bike with humour. Very useful! Cheers!
Glad you liked it!
Proper sensible review, I love my T7 and agree with what you said about it luring you into going faster !!!
Thinking man's review
Can't agree more.
Why I'm up this late I don't know, testament to how insightful and honest this review really is!
GREAT REVIEW , the best review I've ever seen of this bike. Thanks for that 🦾
Xcellent review. Technical, well thought out, compelling, and apparently honest. Great observation and perspective all round. Yes, there are others singing the praises of this motorcycle, but without explaining very well why it is a great mid-weight adventure bike. Thank you for describing what they failed to notice or describe, or both.
And I loved the part about how a capable motorcycle sucks you in over your head at some point. I grew up riding observed trials, flat track, and motocross competitions and most of those motorcycles do that. Fast enduro and motocross motorcycles do that at high speed. At least with me. That is how we grow as riders. And truth be told, "over your head" is 90% of the time rider ability, no matter how great the motorcycle is or isn't.
Sand is the bane of actual adventure motorcycles. You took the Tenere far off-road to places that few other adventure bikes could even go, and then whine a bit about it, but only a bit. And to be fair, the CR450L is a dirt bike with lights. Yes, you can tour on it, but I'm reminded that people "tour" every year from Chile to the Arctic Circle... on bicycles. But let us not bastardize our terms. The CR450L is not an adventure touring motorcycle by any stretch of the word. There is a difference between what it is and what one does with it. I rode the Montesa Cota 348 at 60mph on the highway to get to University, but I didn't call it a road bike.
What it comes down to is that most adv riders think of adventure bikes' capability as 80% tarmac and 19% two-track, 1% one-track, and 0% no-track. Yamaha and KTM changed those capabilities quite a bit recently, and I agree, in a great direction. The fact that you would not choose the Tenere or the KTM790 and would choose the CR450L is telling. You don't actually want an adventure motorcycle (using its common definition,) you want a dirt bike with lights. So yes, ride a dirt bike with lights, but don't confuse it with an adventure motorcycle, or diminish great adventure bikes because they are not dirt bikes with lights.
BTW, having the "interview" and all the other bits at very different volumes is very annoying. Please normalize, so I don't get blasted off my seat, or worse, wake the wifee.
Subscribed.
Lastly, thanks again for the great review, that is my main message. Ride safe, ride fast, wheelie if you know how... repeat!
Yamaha should come out with a Tenere T500 same design style, drop down the weight, and scale down the size a little bit! That would be a perfect off-road bike...what do you think?
400 to 500 would be perfect
A WR450R would be much more amazing to be honest. Cheers.
agreed and in europe keep it within the A2 licence it would take off with lots of new riders for sure, i know my son would be jumping at it !
They’re allegedly working on a 350-ish Ténéré, which if it’s as good as the T7 will be absolutely perfect for me.
Agree. Also, revise the engine layout/piston angle for a lower centre of gravity. This should also free up a little more space for a larger fuel tank.
Epic slide show at the end. Thanks for the review!
Great perspective Dave....Thanks again and all the best...CANADA
I just love that the new tenere actually looks like a dakar bike 😃
came for the T700. Stayed for the Cat ;-)
Lt. Dan lurking under the bike
😂😂
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Thank you soo much for making this video.
It is very nice to hear an honest opinion.
What an absolutely brilliant, brutally honest review!
Well done mate, it's an amazing review of the bike. You really seem to know what you are talking about. Thank you very much!
Much appreciated!
Top review, great and honest comments. Done 5k round Spain France and the Pyrenees with a lot of trail riding. In my opinion the best bike for the job. Cheers Mick
This has been my first video on this channel... and I’m just shocked by the discovery of it... I simply loved every minute of it. Just the deepness and passion in the way you explain it all... I can see myself there. I’ve done a similar trip twice, first with a Triumph 800, and last year with a KTM 530... maybe the same extreme feelings but at a different scale... and loved both!!! Good job and thanks for doing it.
Wow I'm impressed you rode your bike across the ocean.
Thank you Mr. Dave for your opinion after this desertic trip with the T7, very interesting.
Great review!! You really messed with my dog tho lol,whenever you had the squeaking noise he was searching for it.
Love how in-depth this is!
Awesome review! Thanks for doing it!
hi mate from australia. i'm 65 years of age and the planets all aligned when yamaha released the T7. i've had mine for 4 weeks now, just turned over 2000 klms here in queensland where we are in our wet season{pissing down} and i'm not intimidated to take it out at any time. the tyres are so good on the roads{mountains} sealed and unsealed that i'm shy to change them. when winter comes and i hit the outback i will have to reconsider of course. am loving this motorcycle, i call it my fountain of youth. your review is spot on and i beleive you will gell more with it in the future...
F O Y
Good to know. I"m considering the T7 , vs a used GS not sure which way to go.
I keep taking off my headphones wondering if my dog is barking.
Lol
Stereo recording!
exactly, I am using open-back headphone, good sound stage coming from those dogs.
I went to check them twice 😒
They got me too. lol
One of the best bike reviews in a while. Cheers Dave.
Thanks for this awesome review Dave.
I got my 2021 T7 in April of last year and I absolutely LOVE it! I had my left shoulder replaced and had to get away from heavy bikes so I evaluated all the ADV Bikes. I really wanted a T12 but didn’t want to drop that much money so I selected the T7 as a 2nd choice with some trepidation. I’m so glad I chose the T7 ! This bike is so light, it performs so well for what I do which is a lot of Highway and a little light dirt riding. 1 tooth up on the countershaft sprocket and basic other stuff and I can click off 500 mile days no problem. BTW, if you find the T7 “heavy” you need to get into some resistance training!
15:25 to get at what you are looking for....Good stuff! Thanks Dave.
One of the best review have seen and 100% the Best T7. Respect!
Great to see you’ve done this on the T700.
Great review, nicely done, loved the music.
I think you told us the weight of this bike eight times more often than the CRF450l :-)
"Delusions of grandeur?" "Fun?" I want it!
Dave this is the best review of this bike ever done. Congratulations, brilliant video!
Thank you.
You provide really really wonderful reviews
Thank you
Great and precise review.
The thing I didn't like about it is, audio effects and music are extremely loud compared to the speech audio.
I agree, great review. Only minor complaint is the audio could be equalized better.
I’ve watched this video more than a few times...just waiting on June when I can pick one up
Good comprehensive review. Thank you.
Brilliant video, enjoyed all the way through, subscribed.
"this bike comes with a little devil" Sold! I was a happy Husky Svartpilen owner till today. I must have one!
I'm currently a Svart owner and this bike is looking like the next step for me
When
Adventurespec drops a review - it needs to be seen.
Thank you!
Thanks for the review. Now I have to buy it!!
Enjoyed this video, the commentary, candor, and generally not trying to compare it to thoroughbred race bikes like others do. Well done!
This review has made it crystal clear to me that I need something like the 450L vs the T7. It's the weight. I'm too old to deal with it - 77. And I want to go off road.
There is also a WR 250 R. I love mine, light weight capable, the ergo's can be updated to suit you.
@@kevinroberts361 How can they be updated? I'm young but I prefer lighter bikes. I don't get the point of 200kg bikes
Sir,
I'll recommend the BMW 310 GS for you. I had one for similar two years and 16000 Kms. Rode it to the southern and northern tips of India. Low weight, excellent suspension ( for your age, this will be a real boon) and 10,000 kms service interval. A bit of a weird gearbox and fuelling but nothing that will cause you any troubles.
I have reviewed it on my channel. Do have a look.
@@mvjoshi CRF250L.. in list..
#soloride_zx
Tw200
Goddammit I’ve just spent the last two years pimping my 660 into my favourite thing and now you’re making me want to go and buy the T7.
Lol! I do the same..pimp the hell out of them and then upgrade. 🙄
I’m going to use the no-pimp/ride-more mode from now on. 😁
Wow, what a pragmatic review! Very well done.
Love your reviews. Good stuff.
I’ve done that run on my 690 Rally, along with another 7000 miles in Western Europe and the UK totalling 12,000 miles in one trip. I had it flown from Alaska to London and back 8 weeks later. I wouldn’t do it again with a single cylinder bike over all, but loved it in Morocco! I currently have a KTM 500exc that I’ve put 9000 miles on riding from AK to Ushuaia and a KTM 990 ADV with 10,000 miles on it, mostly on road.
All that said, I’m waiting for the T7 to come to the US later this year to prepare for my next Round the World Ride leg from London to Magadan. I also plan on taking my 500 if the T7 doesn’t work out for me. My biggest requirement is I have to be able to pick it up a bike by myself (easy with my 500 and more difficult with my 690.) Your review is very informative and helpful deciding which bike to go with.
I bet you'd stick to your KTM instead of T7 :) But I wish you great luck on your way!
I have T7, but curious as to why you would have a heavy bike like a T7 when you can have a much lighter and more robust (when dropped) 2020 ktm 690 enduro r?
It's funny to hear him say it was difficult to move around in the shop. My harley is 800 lbs and no problem pushing or moving 🤭 I just ordered my 2022 T7 yesterday! Great video, very informative.
Yes, I'd rather push my T7 around the garage than my Road King any day!
I enjoyed the CRF450L review back in the day and liked the format - and I enjoyed this one as well - I adore your style 👏 Greetings from Czechia 👋
Really enjoyed the review 👍
This review was good enough to put up with the editing and sound effects. I think that says a lot.
Great review and makes the T7 a serious consideration when replacing my current Tenere. However having ridden a friends AJP PR7 I have to say it’s the most dirt capable of adv bikes that I’d actually want to ride on the road for any distance and a full 40kg lighter than the T7.
Have to say though, like Dave says, I always prefer to be off-road on a proper Dirtbike of max 120kg.
Cool review! Thanks pal!!!
Great review.
Thank you.
Just purchased my 2022 Tenere.
Cheers from Australia...
Damn such an amazing and relaxing review ruined by the crazy super loud music cuts every few minutes where you have to lower the volume and put it back up when the normal video resumes and good luck if you're away from the keyboard. Anyway well done. Hopefully we won't have that anymore in the future.
I would love to see you do something similar with a KTM 790 Adventure R :-) I honestly think, if something should ever happen to my KTM 790 i would change it to a T7 just to try it out not just ride it for 30 min at a dealer :-) Great review, and great edit. High level content all the way
Thanks.
Suspension travel and price put it closer to the Adventure S. Thoughts?
@@stevec9959 suspension travel doesn't really matter since all these bikes have shit stock suspension anyway so you're going some work on them within 10k kms anyway. you can add a tiny bit of travel to the front and rear easily enough. take the money you'd spend on an R and put it into the T7s suspension and you'll have a far better suspended bike than a stock R.
Saved this video for my Sunday morning coffee because it felt only appropriate when catching coffee with another motorcyclist. This video is well edited, all points well explained, and was entertaining. This is now looking like the bike for me for the cross Canada 🇨🇦 trip.
Thank you very much!! that T7...what a bike!!
The cat loved this bike so much!!!
TheVickek vick I think so. Lol
Great video, you know it’s gonna be good when it starts with a brew! I’ve no plans on buying one but still watched it all the through!
Dave you should have a story book channel!
Thank you!
Very good and honest review!I myself drove the bike in Morocco last week and it was just brilliant and surprisingly good!
I have a 2022 450rl and love it now I want a T7 as well. Thanks for a great review. Very insightful. I appreciate it. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
I am always amazed that no one talks about the PR7 in the same field as this.
I feel like the f800, Tiger, AT are in the big road bikes that can do dirt well.
T7, 790R and PR7 are in a nee camp of dirt orientated big bikes...
Personally the PR7 was the first bike to rival the old 640 adv R..... A true big dual sport bike.
PR7 is quite expensive for an old week single.....but definitely very capable and lite off road ...
The engine maybe older tech but when you really start drilling into it the T7 motor is hardly anything new either, been around in some form for 10+ yrs.
Weak? Hmm not sure on that front either, the motor has been used in loads of bikes without many spectacular failings.
This review (like others) essential says it's more offroad focused than the AT, F800, Tiger etc but it's not a competitor to those. The equipment is way less, the road performance is lower etc etc. So let's compare oranges with oranges, I say. Under 9k, no tech, offroad focused. T7, PR7, superdual.
Any proper offroad bike is going to be a single that's just a fact.
Hmm. Interesting vid. Live in CA, been following this bike for some time. Seems as capable as a 2005 ktm950👍😂 For us, best combo of street, dirt, performance, reliability is an xr650r. Beats a 690 hands down reliability and serviceability. Slap a seat concepts on it, bigger tank, open up muffler, steering damper, good to go! Gear it 15/45. Cruise all day 70+ mph. Simple to maintain, decent dirtbike manners above 10mph, decent street bike manners below 80 mph. I keep trying to love the new stuff (even bought a 500exc) Hope I'm impressed when the t700 finally gets here, love the idea of loading it down with camp gear and disappearing..
Very interesting review,touched on alot of relevant points.
Coming back to the riding world after so many years, and having favored and waited for this bike here in the U.S., I Really needed to see this. That's because I have the same weight and build as the speaker and know now that a lighter bike is probably for me. Thus, off I go to view anything I can find on the CRF 450L. Thank you so much from ATL, GA.
Check out the Kawasaki line. You may still find some brand new 2018 KLR650's around. Lightly used ones are always a good find too.
Thanks for that tip. I will do exactly that.
It is the first honest review I 've seen for a long time . I was always trying understand why people try to take those heavy bikes off... maybe they love bandage :) my choice is xr 650 r because I very tall (6"6) 130kg that's what is important ... Thanks
Best bike ever - I got mine after seeing classic Dust to Glory sequence :-) ua-cam.com/video/7u3IaRRwq_E/v-deo.html
Great review Dave. I would love to get thoughts on the new 2020 AJP PR7. It seems to tick all the boxes for the type of trip you did to Morroco.
I've seen them , but never ridden one. I'd like too though. Maybe next year?
The only thing better than the bike is your articulate review of it well done. Reminds me when I rode with my brother 10 years older a pair of 1981 XR600. I lifted the bike for him and even kick started for him .He didn’t want to believe I was that much stronger than him. Good memories.
Thanks. Sounds like happy memories
Best review to date, thanks !
I had headphones on and that dog scared the ever-living fuck out of me. thought my dog was losing it in the middle of the night.
Same 😂
Great review...It definitely has helped me narrow my choice down to two bikes...this and the
AF twin. Now we just need places that we can ride....DAMN YOU Covid19. Luckily I live in BC
with some of THE best riding, so for now long and local only.
What did you go with? I am looking at those same options
@@alexcooper6058 Hi Alex, I am going with the T700. I will be doing THE ULTIMATE BUILD blog with viewer driven parts and accessories...ie if more guys say this part...so be it. ADVMOTO mag wants to run with the idea as well.
Awesome review, thanks you helped me make my decision 👍
Thanks, that gave me a really great insight to a bike I thought was right for long distance adventure riding. Where journey is the star not the bike.
the Tenere 700 already provides an electrical supply with a 10 amp fuse beneath the right fairing if I call correctly
Hay Dave, Great review. It's amazing how we both have found the bikes with similar strengths. Just don't agree with you on the lights, I like that broad low beam to assist in dodging kangaroos and emus. Your business partner is a very smart man - bigger pegs no. 1 improvement for the bike. I've had a bad run with USB sockets with slow leaking and catching me out. Rear end is soft, can't tell what you weigh on the video but I think you leave my slightly overweight carcass at 92 kg. You are a svelt something under 92 kg if not don't say anything :)
I'm saying nothing then...;-)
so why do you need a fuel gauge? there was a time they weren't needed
Monitoring your fuel has always been important (personally my preferred choice is a clear tank with 1 litre incremental marks on it).
Why do you need to do this?
If you are riding long distances between fuel stops and pushing the bikes' range envelope then you really need accurate fueling information to stop any issues towards the end of your chosen ride, particularly in remote environments.
The problem with a poor fuel gauge that gives you no information about usage over the last 1/3 of your tank is that as the terrain and altitude changes your fuel consumption changes too.
In soft sand a bike will often use up to 50% more fuel than on tarmac, whilst at altitude you will get similar changing effects.
Trying to keep a mental track of how high you are and what terrain you've ridden over for what distance in a bid to keep a track of your fuel usage is a real pain in the arse, particularly towards the end of a big variable terrain piste when you're often tired and a little stressed already (and even more so if you've never encountered that particular mix of terrain and altitude before).
Having a clear graded tank, a good fuel gauge showing a linear relationship between fuel remaining and current usage (or even better, both!) is something that anyone manufacturing an 'adventure bike's should consider to be essential in my opinion.
@@davejhlomax when I was a lad, we didn't need them, and no motorcycle was equipped with them, including arguably the best long range bike ever, the BMW /5. London to Sydney by many riders, across Australia on crappy roads and tracks. Fully aware off road increases consumption.Didn't need watercooling either. You make great videos though with good info
With respect (and I mean that) an overland trip from London to Sydney isn't like genuine remote exploration in places like the high Andes or the Sahara. In both those situations while I'd agree you don't 'need' a fuel gauge, life is 110% less stressful with one and personally they also give me the confidence and knowledge to push my riding envelope further.
As to air cooling...they WERE the days (I'm in the middle of building a custom airhead R65 adventure bike myself and have travelled 10000's of miles on air cooled bikes from Enfield Bullets to XR400's). But, now we have moved forward to more efficient and reliable engines that use less fuel, weigh less and emit less Co2.
I love my riding past and chose to revisit it daily through my R65, but I also embrace the engineering genius of modern engine designs too.
The thing I love about adventure riding is that we can all chose to make it whatever we want with whatever tools we choose.
Ride safe out there whatever you ride and wherever you choose to ride it (with or without fuel gauge!).
Wow, amazing review! Thank you
One of the best reviews I have seen.
Thanks!
Dave I couldn’t agree with you more... I’ve downsized continually and now from a 701 I’m on a 500 exc...same for the luggage
Doing the same long distance, simply skip as much of the highway as possible
pablo carrion I’m downsizing too. Gonna do dirt around Australia on a Himalayan. Just putt along. I’m not 20 anymore.
Couldn't agree with you less, bikes are compromises by design.
@@worldhello1234 Everything is a compromise by design. Dreams are seldom as close to reality. At the end of the day the perfect motorcycle doesn't exist because every single person on the planet is an individual when it comes to physique, riding style and more. Therefore making any design redundant. You can get close to perfect. But then, if that were the case we wouldn't need handlebar risers or different profile bars, different seat heights, different footpegs, different boots, gloves, or different styles of adventure bikes or any bike for that matter. Compare a V-strom to a Himalayan. I wouldn't even bother comparing the two, as they are entirely different classes of motorcycle. However, the best part about it all is that at the end of the day they all DO have one thing in common. We enjoy them and love them. Stay safe.
PLEASE do a review exactly like this on the new Tiger 900 :)
yes yes please
Good day to you thanks for a great description of this bike on its pro's and con's i have been looking at this on .your revew may have sent my to my dealer ride safe
great review best ive seen so far ive got a t7 but not got the chance to take it off road as yet loving the 1400 miles on roads thought look farward to more vids thank you