Update: Forgot to mention that I have also relocated the side stand switch because it can easily be crushed. On 15:24 you can see it in front of the gear lever on the frame near the oil filter. I don't recommend doing this because it can be dangerous if you ride away with side stand down. All I can say is that I am used to check side stand every time I start. It's a reflex now. The safest would be to leave it in place but prepare a shortcut switch in case it breaks.
I have bought my T700 on April 14th this year. Today I have passed 10.000 kms withouts the slightest issues. Been on a 4 week trip in May/June through Germany, Luxemburg, France, Spain, Portugal, Andorra, Switzerland and back to Germany (8.108 kms). It performed fantastically. Apart from the great riding comfort (higher Rally seat...), it was the fuel consumption, that surprised me in a positive way. When I'm in travel mode, I manage to reach between 3,1 and 3,6 litres per 100 kms, which means, you can easily reach 400 kms on one tank without having to drain it completely. And all that fully charged and equipped with Touratech aluminium panniers. In everyday life I can do between 3,7 and 4 litres, which is not bad either. When the engine is cold, the clutch is a bit sticky, which makes the bike do a little leap forward while starting it up. But that's not a real problem. It was way worse in my trusty old Transalp 600. Suspension is stock, even though I'm a bloke of almost 2 metres @ almost 100 kgs. And tbh, I find it very stiff. Therefore I'm having a hard time believing that it needs replacement. I definitely don't want and need a higher spring rate. That would probably kill every trace of comfort left. I have mounted a HP corse silencer that shaves off about 2,3 kgs and a big Givi windscreen. Sounds decent without being too noisy. One of the T7s very few perks is the speedo, which is quite off. A reading of 60 means 52 GPS, 90 is 80-81 GPS, 120 means real 109-110. Luckily the odo is only off by a bit less than 2%. I love my bike to bits. Very smooth engine, very economical and reliable, very offroad capable and NOT top heavy. I'd buy it again, that's for sure...
Thanks! Actually when upgrading spring and setting more compression/rebound the ride became smoother! It just works better. So don't reject the thought just yet. A good tuned suspension works for you.
Great long term review Robert 👍🏻. It’s remarkable that your bike is in such good shape considering all the “I think I’ll just take a little rest here” moments you’ve had 😃.
Before starting any bike in cold temperatures, the rule of thumb is to turn gear on, press clutch and push the bike a bit (one meter is enough) to disengage clutch disks if they stick to each other.
I always enjoy your videos Robert. Keep up the good work. I agree with your attitude of not wanting to know how much you've spent on extras etc. It's not all about the money.
Great review 👍. Seriously thinking of changing my bike and the T7 has definitely peaked my interest. My current bike is purely street focused and I'm missing off road. The downside to research is that all I'm getting is reviews about top heavy, bad suspension etc. I love Yamaha and have had a lot of on and off road machines but I am looking to get just the 1 bike to do both. I am similar weight to yourself so hearing simple suspension changes is brilliant, also not noticing a "top heavy" issue. Like you I just get on and ride the damn thing. Engine reliability was never an issue for me, you have just reinforced that. Best of luck to the next 50,000 kms and thank you from Ireland 👍
Any 200kg bike ridden off-road will be a bitch to pick up when you fall over. Sometimes you end up with the bike in a good position, sometimes not. I've seen some test where guys drop different bikes on their driveway to "measure" how hard they are to pick up. This does not transfer well to the real world. I can't ride my T7 on the same trails I took my Husaberg Fe501, but I knew that when buying the bike. On the other hand, the T7 is comfortable on any road surface, that Husaberg was a bitch considering vibrations and noice.
Hi Robert, You did a great review of the bike. I looked at it with pleasure. I also own a T7, currently at 46k km and I am very happy with it. Just for comparison, I changed the front brake pads at 20,000! haha, and the last ones I still have the original ones and they are not close to used up :) as for the rust, I also have the same problem, exactly at that joint you showed in the video + spokes on the wheels... best regards from Croatia, and btw., I saw that you have been in Croatia in military base "Željava". I saw your sticker in the cockpit of the plane \m/
Thanks so much for the review! I’m seriously considering options and I’ve always been a Yamaha fan (multiple over the years) and was hopeful they’ve done it right with the T7. It’s now at the top of my list!
Great review. I have also upgraded the wheels to tubeless and added the extended Camel external tank. I know these are not a ‘must do’ but I like the peace of mind. Cheers
Efter många år på asfalt och på endurohoj i skogen skaffade jag nyligen en DR800 efter att ha kollat några av dina videos. Ångrar inte köpet en sekund! ✌️
As always very nicely said. Just a small comment regarding my experience with the nylon screws...I had those, had slide on the wet tarmac, head of the side screw was sheared off. I can confirm it works as planned. But it was tricky to remove the rest of it from the fork, very tight fit on the thread. You need to use a drill and be careful removing it not to damage the thread. Now I am using original steel ones. Just a thougt to consider. In case of some bad experience with the steel ones you will be the first one to inform 😁. Robert have a next, and next, and next 50k safe trips on this great bike. Love it!
Another great video Robert, learned loads. I would definitely reccomend the pre-filter (and carry a replacement) if you are riding with your buddies in dusty conditions i.e. Maroc. I was shocked at the condition of the pre-filter on my T7 after a 500K Rally in the UK. Microscopic dust will wear your piston rings and cause all sorts of engine problems! No need if you always ride in the front of course 😉
Great review. Thanks for sharing. Have the same bike since end of 2019 and I am still happy that I bought it. It was a bit like you came to it.... just wanted to have it. I did a test ride but just after a short ride I was sure to buy one....
Great video. My T7 only has 5000km but I'm loving it. Small, light, simple! You made me laugh - "they get warm but I can't prepare bacon on them" 😀 (heated grips). Cheers 🇦🇺 ps. I also don't find the bike top-heavy (my 1200 Tiger was top-heavy)
That is a fantastic review, thank you. I love how you fondly talk about your "marriage" to the bike then refuse to think about how much it has cost you. "I threw the receipts away". I think that is a sage perspective on marriages.
Just got mine 2021 two days ago. I have to fly to Abbotsford BC to pick it up and riding back to Calgary through Canadian Rockies. Wish me luck because it will be first snowfall in Canada this year :) Four months ago I have sold my white 2013 Super Tenere. Amazing bike on highways and gravel. It's time for something new. It looks like a rider position will be better on T7. Great content ! P.S. Your rear tire looks wider than 150 or maybe it's just my imagination.
Thank you for nice walkthrough of services, maintenance, currative maintenance and more. When you talked about mirrors and what is legal I went like, what? What countries has laws on that, apart from how many one need and so on. Turns out there is a EU directive, although lenghty I guess the main thing is that they need to be at least 28cm away from the center of the bike, also they must be attached that they do not move during normal drive, and they must be able to be adjusted when the driver is in a normal driving position. Also, the mirror needs to have a minium mirror surface of 69cm². The position, where it is over bars, on the handguards, or hanging which is a type popular on bobbers and similar bikes is not really regulated. Some countries that can be picky and have their own rules is Germany, that during a traffic stop can test what signals you can see from behind and Austria that can do a cirular diameter test on the mirrors. Now, you, driving a Swedish vehicle is not affected by that in those countries as coming with a foreign bike, you should be grandfathered in, so to say. Did you do or consider a cat delete? Why and why not? Heard is saves 1.5 kilos or more.
Yeah Germany is fierce with the laws. You even need to bring the papers for any non standard mod you have to proove the cartification. My T7 is Euro4 and has no Cat 😊It came on later models when Euro5 was endorced
Because of your first video BMW vs tenere , I bought tenere to . Happy user so far, someday I will be on your local Sweden TET , greetings from Ireland
I was thinking how clean & spotless your bike was & then you mentioned the Jet washer, I have a 2010 Kawasaki 250 D-Tracker & even in the manual it states to not use a pressure washers on it, my friend who used to look after it for me was always using his pressure washer on it & I had to replace the steering bearings that had gone rusty, pressure washers can get water in places that wouldn't normally be possible..... Great video in-depth video & you are obviously very meticulous with your bike & I doubt most people would even know about the rust under the fuel tank, I've had my bike over 12 years & im thinking of getting something bigger, either the klr 650 or the T7, my only concern is that ive heard so many people saying that it is top heavy, my bike is also top heavy but is obviously much lighter than the T7, so after watching your video I've decided on the T7......
Excellent review! I sold my GS 1200 and bought the T7 for the same reasons. I have 20,000 miles on mine with no issues except the cold clutch slip you mentioned. Funny, I was using aftermarket oil and just recently switched to Yamaha Lube. Doesn't sound like that will fix it. We'll see. Thanks again!!
@@turgayaslan9975 the only thing I miss going long distance at sustained 80 to 85 miles an hour. The T7 will do that but I don’t like running it at that high of rpm’s for long periods of time on the highway. I keep it around 70 miles an hour. No big deal but just something I miss.
Great video Robert!, i really liked your keep it simple and go ride attitude!, and i loved the crash clips from your riding, most people would try to hide them, but we all have them, and if not..we aren't trying hard enough to become better or playing around as much as we should 🤣. Keep the videos coming and enjoy your next big trip. 🌲🌲🔥🌲🌲🇸🇪🍺
@@stevemartin8573 I honestly can't remember. But if you look online for "low and wide tenere 700 footpegs" you will find from IMS Rally, Altrider, Fastway, SW Motech. Sorry I can't be more specific with that, I really can't remember
Absolutely awesome video i just sold my fireblade for a 2020 Tenere 700 for dad and I to ride hoping it gets delivered next week ^_^ just selling my 1150gsa as well really looking forward to the T7.
I'm on my 2nd super tenere 1200 and now in my early 50s I'm thinking of something lighter and the t7 has always been in my mind but the tubes put me off Robert.I could just about live with the change back to chain from the ease of the shaft drive.
I am lucky to not have had a flat tyre yet :) There are pro's and cons and I guess the more offroad you do the more Tubes has the pros. But for touring TL is so much easier. But there are TL rims to get for the T7.
@@NomadSweden yes sometimes you can worry about something that may hardly ever happen. I drove in the states for 2 yrs on a klr with tubes many miles on and off road and never punctured, I used heavy duty tubes.
Another great video, Robert! Loved the comments about domestic money laundering and your love relation to the bike! :-) I too would really like to know the make of those lowered foot-pegs, if that can be found! To add to your comments in relation to the bike's original suspension. I'm right at 105 kg and 185 cm tall, and for me the original suspension has been good thus far, including a trip last year up the quite rough Dalton Highway to Prudho Bay, with about 15 kg of luggage. I have since made the suspension adjustments you recommended, and like the results! Cheers, and ride safe!
Great review. Mine only has 6000 miles. So far so good. From the comments and Facebook groups it seems the t7 attracts some real muppets;keyboard warriors/world experts/trolls. Love your attitude…’just ride it’🤓
🏴 Hi Robert, Love your vids. This was a great review - T7 owner or not - to watch & listen to, with your usual honest, no nonsense, informative and good humoured narrative. Raising a glass 🍷 to many more T7 vids over the coming years. Kind regards, Martin Ilkley Yorkshire Dales 🏴
Best and better results to prevent corrosion and keep bike in nice form is to use XCF rust blocker instead of ACF -50. XCF is proven to hold better onto surface and lot longer to prevent corrosion.
Nice vid and mileage review. One note regarding steering damper, with stock suspension it really required, but once you change springs for your weight or even better change cartridges for more better one RR, Andreani, Öhlins or similar you will notice that damper might not be required, as it gets much more stable on higher speeds and rocky terrain. Seems, you forgot to mention loosen steering head nuts (judging by your vids), as it happens to me as well.
Ah yes I forgot that.. thanks :) You may be right about the upgraded suspension because I have not tried. Still the steering dampener helps in sideways twists due to big loose gravel and stones etc so not the same exactly. But sure, it will be an overall smoother ride with Öhlins.
100% agree about top heavieness... they only people complaining about top heavieness are those that dont own one. I even weighed it at the handle bar... no different than the 790 and a lot lighter than the AT. There is NO top heavieness. Its just an urban myth spouted by 790 owners trying to justify the low slung tanks.
@@Gbner From my view I talk about if I feel the bike is top heavy and if it is a problem for me. I have no complaints about the weight distribution on the bike I don't understand people who turn the bike down because of it. If course there are bikes with lower CoG and different feel when riding. For myself, I have never thought of the T7 as problematic in this way. It's just not a thing at all for me. I don't understand why this is a big topic.
@@Gbner Im sorry, but I am referring to physical measurements, not your feelings. Go you my channel and look at the video called "does bike weight matter". I physically weigh the "top heavieness" of the T7 and the 790. Both are the same weight when lifting from the handlebar with 15L of fuel in both bikes. I think that because the seat height is lower on the 790, you think it is less top heavy. It is a myth unless you can empirically prove it to me otherwise.
@4:28 there's no free lunch as they say... I am very reluctant to do mods just because a lot of people say it works, probably after just a couple of hours of testing. Sorry you had to learn it the expensive way .
Cheers for the great, detailed review (I'm looking to buy one). What is the maximum sustained cruising speed for motorway riding, solo but with enough camping gear for a long weekend/bike rally? Not including beers 🙂
Tks Robert for this down to earth review. But Swedes, are down to earth, right? I can't, think of a better bike to use for a really long trip! Few things to really go wrong, an engine that never breaks, no electronics can go wrong and you can switch off the ABS. What more can you ask? Have a great summer and pls contact if you were to pass through central France. Cheers!
Great review and enjoyable to watch. Have you done a lot night riding and how did the standard lights perform? You mentioned right at the end you are charging them. Thanks, Tony
Great video! I sure hope my T7 will hold up as good as yours! Here's a question from my side though - how do you manage to squize in some family time with those frequent rides? 😁
I Actually sat on a Brand new T7 last week at the dealer, looking for a bike 50% in dirt as I already have a Concours 14 for street but cant bare to put a new T7 in the dirt and get any scratches on it much less laying it over Id cry for months 😢.. Maybe buy used soon...
Great honest review Robert, I'm entering the T7 market now at the time I am in marriage counseling with my Africa Twin...I'm not convinced we will pull through.🤔
Nice video and review Robert...I have only 25 thousand kilometres on mine but its used all year round and is doing great. Feel happier I've changed the plugs and sussed out how to do that. A spring from Rally Raid and B+B rear rack is next. Just fitted an Atlas throttle lock...works well on the long road rides. I love the aesthetics of the bike..and the engine is a gem..! Cheers, Steve
How do you care about the chain? Do you lubricate it (if yes, how often and what do you use for it)? Btw. thanks for all the great materials on your channel! :)
Thank you. I actually do not lubricate it very often. I use WD40 and just make sure the chain is clean. I lube it when it looks dirty. No special intervals.
Did you mention your chain guard addition? It's not included in US models. Accessory item. How important is it? Or is it just a paper weight? Great informative video by the way! I just took delivery of my 2023 last month. Loving it.
I forgot to mention that I added the chain guard. So far it has been a paper weight I think :) But it would prevent branches etc from being chugged in to the sprocket. If it prevented such an event? No idea :)
I have watched most of your videos about the T7 since you have it and bought one myself last year and juste past 15k on it. Thx for all the tips and the wonderfull videos? I did some myself on my channel if you have few minutes to spare ^^
@@NomadSweden Thanks for the feedback ! I'll try doing some subtitles on the next 😁 I am glad You took the time to see one 😇 Happy to help if You come by the French Alpes 👌
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Update: Forgot to mention that I have also relocated the side stand switch because it can easily be crushed. On 15:24 you can see it in front of the gear lever on the frame near the oil filter. I don't recommend doing this because it can be dangerous if you ride away with side stand down. All I can say is that I am used to check side stand every time I start. It's a reflex now.
The safest would be to leave it in place but prepare a shortcut switch in case it breaks.
I have bought my T700 on April 14th this year. Today I have passed 10.000 kms withouts the slightest issues. Been on a 4 week trip in May/June through Germany, Luxemburg, France, Spain, Portugal, Andorra, Switzerland and back to Germany (8.108 kms). It performed fantastically. Apart from the great riding comfort (higher Rally seat...), it was the fuel consumption, that surprised me in a positive way. When I'm in travel mode, I manage to reach between 3,1 and 3,6 litres per 100 kms, which means, you can easily reach 400 kms on one tank without having to drain it completely. And all that fully charged and equipped with Touratech aluminium panniers. In everyday life I can do between 3,7 and 4 litres, which is not bad either.
When the engine is cold, the clutch is a bit sticky, which makes the bike do a little leap forward while starting it up. But that's not a real problem. It was way worse in my trusty old Transalp 600.
Suspension is stock, even though I'm a bloke of almost 2 metres @ almost 100 kgs. And tbh, I find it very stiff. Therefore I'm having a hard time believing that it needs replacement. I definitely don't want and need a higher spring rate. That would probably kill every trace of comfort left.
I have mounted a HP corse silencer that shaves off about 2,3 kgs and a big Givi windscreen. Sounds decent without being too noisy.
One of the T7s very few perks is the speedo, which is quite off. A reading of 60 means 52 GPS, 90 is 80-81 GPS, 120 means real 109-110. Luckily the odo is only off by a bit less than 2%.
I love my bike to bits. Very smooth engine, very economical and reliable, very offroad capable and NOT top heavy. I'd buy it again, that's for sure...
Thanks! Actually when upgrading spring and setting more compression/rebound the ride became smoother! It just works better. So don't reject the thought just yet. A good tuned suspension works for you.
OHHHH man, i laugh sooo much, thanks for your honesty and humor
Great long term review Robert 👍🏻. It’s remarkable that your bike is in such good shape considering all the “I think I’ll just take a little rest here” moments you’ve had 😃.
Heheh yes I am amazed too. But I did a lot of judo as a kid so I learnt to fall the right way.
Before starting any bike in cold temperatures, the rule of thumb is to turn gear on, press clutch and push the bike a bit (one meter is enough) to disengage clutch disks if they stick to each other.
Will try 👍🏻
Fantastic perspective. Just bought one of these with 2000kms on odo. It’s living up to all expectations so far!
I have 81.000 km on the odo now and it keeps delivering without trouble 😊👍🏻
Good honest review, thank you Sir. Cheers from Poland
I always enjoy your videos Robert. Keep up the good work. I agree with your attitude of not wanting to know how much you've spent on extras etc. It's not all about the money.
Robert, all I can say is you doing great job!
Thanks Marek!
@@NomadSweden lunch on me some time here in Bratislava mate!
Took one out for a test ride today, and I was super impressed.
Great review 👍. Seriously thinking of changing my bike and the T7 has definitely peaked my interest. My current bike is purely street focused and I'm missing off road. The downside to research is that all I'm getting is reviews about top heavy, bad suspension etc. I love Yamaha and have had a lot of on and off road machines but I am looking to get just the 1 bike to do both. I am similar weight to yourself so hearing simple suspension changes is brilliant, also not noticing a "top heavy" issue. Like you I just get on and ride the damn thing. Engine reliability was never an issue for me, you have just reinforced that. Best of luck to the next 50,000 kms and thank you from Ireland 👍
Thank you Keith!
Any 200kg bike ridden off-road will be a bitch to pick up when you fall over. Sometimes you end up with the bike in a good position, sometimes not. I've seen some test where guys drop different bikes on their driveway to "measure" how hard they are to pick up. This does not transfer well to the real world. I can't ride my T7 on the same trails I took my Husaberg Fe501, but I knew that when buying the bike. On the other hand, the T7 is comfortable on any road surface, that Husaberg was a bitch considering vibrations and noice.
Hi Robert,
You did a great review of the bike. I looked at it with pleasure. I also own a T7, currently at 46k km and I am very happy with it. Just for comparison, I changed the front brake pads at 20,000! haha, and the last ones I still have the original ones and they are not close to used up :) as for the rust, I also have the same problem, exactly at that joint you showed in the video + spokes on the wheels... best regards from Croatia, and btw., I saw that you have been in Croatia in military base "Željava". I saw your sticker in the cockpit of the plane \m/
Ah thanks! Croatia was great 👍🏻
Thanks so much for the review! I’m seriously considering options and I’ve always been a Yamaha fan (multiple over the years) and was hopeful they’ve done it right with the T7. It’s now at the top of my list!
Thanks! I now have 63.000 km and stkll no problems 👍🏻
Excellent long term review. Your experience is one of the reasons I'm not buying crash bars for my new t7. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Cheers 👍🏻
Great review. I have also upgraded the wheels to tubeless and added the extended Camel external tank. I know these are not a ‘must do’ but I like the peace of mind. Cheers
You had my subscribe when you almost said “wideo”…. Glad I found the channel, thanks for the in depth review!
Thanks and welcome 👍🏻
Thanks for sharing Robert, great info as always. Gonna try and hunt down those pegs!
Efter många år på asfalt och på endurohoj i skogen skaffade jag nyligen en DR800 efter att ha kollat några av dina videos. Ångrar inte köpet en sekund! ✌️
Härligt! Kör fint :)
This video is great. I’ve saved it for future reference. So thank you again for putting together such a well documented review!
Thank you 🙏
As always very nicely said. Just a small comment regarding my experience with the nylon screws...I had those, had slide on the wet tarmac, head of the side screw was sheared off. I can confirm it works as planned. But it was tricky to remove the rest of it from the fork, very tight fit on the thread. You need to use a drill and be careful removing it not to damage the thread. Now I am using original steel ones. Just a thougt to consider. In case of some bad experience with the steel ones you will be the first one to inform 😁. Robert have a next, and next, and next 50k safe trips on this great bike. Love it!
Thank you for your feedback!
I also broke one.... a hot screwdriver works perfectly.... push it into the thread and wait for it to cool down a bit... then it just unscrews.
Absolute professional real owner long term review, great job.
😊🙏
Another great video Robert, learned loads. I would definitely reccomend the pre-filter (and carry a replacement) if you are riding with your buddies in dusty conditions i.e. Maroc. I was shocked at the condition of the pre-filter on my T7 after a 500K Rally in the UK. Microscopic dust will wear your piston rings and cause all sorts of engine problems! No need if you always ride in the front of course 😉
Thanks i am actually browsing for that 👍🏻
Just Ride For Gods Sake!!!!!! Awesome Mate
Great review. Thanks for sharing. Have the same bike since end of 2019 and I am still happy that I bought it. It was a bit like you came to it.... just wanted to have it. I did a test ride but just after a short ride I was sure to buy one....
I bought a T7 Rally this week. I like a lot your channel and your opinion about the bike. I hope enjoy it as you do. Thaks
Congrats and safe journeys on a great bike
Thanks
Very informative review Robert. Can't wait to see where you're heading next though!
I am considering going down from my africa twin to a T7, thank you for the videos.
I like so much your sense of humour. Well done bro
Cheers mate :)
Very informative , I've a tracer 7, the same engine with the T7, with 7000 km, thanks for the video
Great video. My T7 only has 5000km but I'm loving it. Small, light, simple! You made me laugh - "they get warm but I can't prepare bacon on them" 😀 (heated grips). Cheers 🇦🇺
ps. I also don't find the bike top-heavy (my 1200 Tiger was top-heavy)
Cheers!
That is a fantastic review, thank you. I love how you fondly talk about your "marriage" to the bike then refuse to think about how much it has cost you. "I threw the receipts away".
I think that is a sage perspective on marriages.
Haha yes, I first learnt it in family life and adapted it to my bike
Love it. Very informative and fun to watch! Thank you.
Excellent long term review! I look forward to watching your videos!
I’m thinking of purchasing a T7 so this in depth review has been really useful, thank you👍
Purchase made and pick up my shinny new T7 next week. Thanks for the inspiration 👍
Congrats on the new bike 👊🏻✊🏻
@@NomadSweden Cheers 👍
Your review has influenced me to tske a closer look at the T7 as my next bike. Thanks.
I now have 62 000 km on the clock. Still no problems :)
Great video Robert, honest no frills review. Like you said “ just ride” take it easy out there
Thanks mate!
Just got mine 2021 two days ago. I have to fly to Abbotsford BC to pick it up and riding back to Calgary through Canadian Rockies. Wish me luck because it will be first snowfall in Canada this year :) Four months ago I have sold my white 2013 Super Tenere. Amazing bike on highways and gravel. It's time for something new. It looks like a rider position will be better on T7. Great content !
P.S. Your rear tire looks wider than 150 or maybe it's just my imagination.
I wish you luck! The rear is 150 but some cameras distort things. I also look wider 🤣
@@NomadSweden maybe he is used to 150X17 which looks narrower than 150X18
Thank you for nice walkthrough of services, maintenance, currative maintenance and more.
When you talked about mirrors and what is legal I went like, what? What countries has laws on that, apart from how many one need and so on. Turns out there is a EU directive, although lenghty I guess the main thing is that they need to be at least 28cm away from the center of the bike, also they must be attached that they do not move during normal drive, and they must be able to be adjusted when the driver is in a normal driving position. Also, the mirror needs to have a minium mirror surface of 69cm².
The position, where it is over bars, on the handguards, or hanging which is a type popular on bobbers and similar bikes is not really regulated.
Some countries that can be picky and have their own rules is Germany, that during a traffic stop can test what signals you can see from behind and Austria that can do a cirular diameter test on the mirrors. Now, you, driving a Swedish vehicle is not affected by that in those countries as coming with a foreign bike, you should be grandfathered in, so to say.
Did you do or consider a cat delete? Why and why not? Heard is saves 1.5 kilos or more.
Yeah Germany is fierce with the laws. You even need to bring the papers for any non standard mod you have to proove the cartification. My T7 is Euro4 and has no Cat 😊It came on later models when Euro5 was endorced
Thanks for the video. it was very interesting and insightful. I have a Tenere myself, and would buy it exactly the same again and again.😎
indeed! again and again :)
Thank you for answering my question Robert. Great video as per usual 👍👍
Welcome 🤗
Because of your first video BMW vs tenere , I bought tenere to . Happy user so far, someday I will be on your local Sweden TET , greetings from Ireland
Phew im glad youre happy 😃 safe trails!
super thanks. Your expertice comes in the right time for me and confirms my decision to switch on T700 - hopefully today ... ciao Haro
Great long term, review. Love the honesty "Domestic money laundering" and "I threw away the receipts, I don't want to know how much its cost me" 😆
Thanks :)
Very informative I've had a t7 for 2 years and only done 4 k on it but love ya info and knowledge. 👍👍👍
Thank you!
Nice pronounciation on the Norwegian at 38:07. Probably better than my Swedish!
Ah takk!
Great video Robert. I'm really trying hard not to get one but the more I hear and see about the bike, the weaker my resistance s getting ;)
The good thing about bikes is that you don't think about economy when riding. That's why I have 50.000 km.
@@NomadSweden I'm currently riding the Triumph Tiger 800, but off-road is kind of impossible with it... witch is what I want to do.
@@mindtraveler T7 is indeed a step in that direction without loosing too much on road capabilities.
Thx for the review. I have almost the same concept - Brother in spirit, but only 13.000 km
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I was thinking how clean & spotless your bike was & then you mentioned the Jet washer, I have a 2010 Kawasaki 250 D-Tracker & even in the manual it states to not use a pressure washers on it, my friend who used to look after it for me was always using his pressure washer on it & I had to replace the steering bearings that had gone rusty, pressure washers can get water in places that wouldn't normally be possible.....
Great video in-depth video & you are obviously very meticulous with your bike & I doubt most people would even know about the rust under the fuel tank, I've had my bike over 12 years & im thinking of getting something bigger, either the klr 650 or the T7, my only concern is that ive heard so many people saying that it is top heavy, my bike is also top heavy but is obviously much lighter than the T7, so after watching your video I've decided on the T7......
Thanks for your input 👏🏻
With reference to the bearings, was it the swingarm,wheel or linkage?...by far the best most informative t7 series out there...awesomeness.
Thank you! It was the outer bearing on the break side. I have changed all bearings again after 60.000km because of a little play in the bearings.
@NomadSweden thanks for the info dude appreciated...
Excellent review! I sold my GS 1200 and bought the T7 for the same reasons. I have 20,000 miles on mine with no issues except the cold clutch slip you mentioned. Funny, I was using aftermarket oil and just recently switched to Yamaha Lube. Doesn't sound like that will fix it. We'll see. Thanks again!!
Cheers!
how its feeling after 1200gs. i have an also 2016 gs and i am thinking to buy t7
@@turgayaslan9975 the only thing I miss going long distance at sustained 80 to 85 miles an hour. The T7 will do that but I don’t like running it at that high of rpm’s for long periods of time on the highway. I keep it around 70 miles an hour. No big deal but just something I miss.
@@seisamigos397Are you getting any hand or butt vibration on long rides?
Not at all. Seems to be fine.
Great video Robert!, i really liked your keep it simple and go ride attitude!, and i loved the crash clips from your riding, most people would try to hide them, but we all have them, and if not..we aren't trying hard enough to become better or playing around as much as we should 🤣. Keep the videos coming and enjoy your next big trip. 🌲🌲🔥🌲🌲🇸🇪🍺
Thanks brother! Fall, get bruised, get up, go further. That's what it's all about.
Good one Rob. Glad you use and like the pegs ! See you
Haha yes thanks
Can you let me know who makes the pegs? 🙏
@@stevemartin8573 I honestly can't remember. But if you look online for "low and wide tenere 700 footpegs" you will find from IMS Rally, Altrider, Fastway, SW Motech. Sorry I can't be more specific with that, I really can't remember
Great review, love these bikes, in the middle of negotiating a deal on one , fingers crossed, keep up the good work
Thanks and good luck with the deal 🤙🏻
@@NomadSweden 👍
Use lanoguard grease over the rust bit after treating
Absolutely awesome video i just sold my fireblade for a 2020 Tenere 700 for dad and I to ride hoping it gets delivered next week ^_^ just selling my 1150gsa as well really looking forward to the T7.
Congrats and enjoy!
I'm on my 2nd super tenere 1200 and now in my early 50s I'm thinking of something lighter and the t7 has always been in my mind but the tubes put me off Robert.I could just about live with the change back to chain from the ease of the shaft drive.
I am lucky to not have had a flat tyre yet :) There are pro's and cons and I guess the more offroad you do the more Tubes has the pros. But for touring TL is so much easier. But there are TL rims to get for the T7.
@@NomadSweden yes sometimes you can worry about something that may hardly ever happen. I drove in the states for 2 yrs on a klr with tubes many miles on and off road and never punctured, I used heavy duty tubes.
Another great video, Robert! Loved the comments about domestic money laundering and your love relation to the bike! :-) I too would really like to know the make of those lowered foot-pegs, if that can be found! To add to your comments in relation to the bike's original suspension. I'm right at 105 kg and 185 cm tall, and for me the original suspension has been good thus far, including a trip last year up the quite rough Dalton Highway to Prudho Bay, with about 15 kg of luggage. I have since made the suspension adjustments you recommended, and like the results! Cheers, and ride safe!
Cheers!
Liked the video! As always!
Great review. Mine only has 6000 miles. So far so good. From the comments and Facebook groups it seems the t7 attracts some real muppets;keyboard warriors/world experts/trolls. Love your attitude…’just ride it’🤓
Yeah the experts are everywhere. They type when they should be riding
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Hi Robert,
Love your vids.
This was a great review - T7 owner or not - to watch & listen to, with your usual honest, no nonsense, informative and good humoured narrative.
Raising a glass 🍷 to many more T7 vids over the coming years.
Kind regards,
Martin
Ilkley
Yorkshire Dales 🏴
Thanks Martin!
Thank you - beats watching the World Cup! Great review.
Thanks!🙏⚽️
Me gusta mucho tu canal, disfruto especialmente con los vídeos de viajes ¡Son realmente interesantes!! Un saludo cordial desde Córdoba, España
Gracias!
Best and better results to prevent corrosion and keep bike in nice form is to use XCF rust blocker instead of ACF -50. XCF is proven to hold better onto surface and lot longer to prevent corrosion.
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great review. you showed a lot of good things thanks
and cheers 🍻👍
Excellent review!
Liked and subbed, awesome video. I am going to explore the channel more as I am also looking at getting one. Thank you
Nice vid and mileage review. One note regarding steering damper, with stock suspension it really required, but once you change springs for your weight or even better change cartridges for more better one RR, Andreani, Öhlins or similar you will notice that damper might not be required, as it gets much more stable on higher speeds and rocky terrain.
Seems, you forgot to mention loosen steering head nuts (judging by your vids), as it happens to me as well.
Ah yes I forgot that.. thanks :)
You may be right about the upgraded suspension because I have not tried. Still the steering dampener helps in sideways twists due to big loose gravel and stones etc so not the same exactly. But sure, it will be an overall smoother ride with Öhlins.
Another awesome video! I also adjusted my suspension dampening and rebound from your previous video! Cheers 🍻
100% agree about top heavieness... they only people complaining about top heavieness are those that dont own one. I even weighed it at the handle bar... no different than the 790 and a lot lighter than the AT. There is NO top heavieness. Its just an urban myth spouted by 790 owners trying to justify the low slung tanks.
Thanks Nerb1. With you in my corner we can fight them all off! 😂
@@Gbner From my view I talk about if I feel the bike is top heavy and if it is a problem for me. I have no complaints about the weight distribution on the bike I don't understand people who turn the bike down because of it. If course there are bikes with lower CoG and different feel when riding. For myself, I have never thought of the T7 as problematic in this way. It's just not a thing at all for me. I don't understand why this is a big topic.
@@Gbner Im sorry, but I am referring to physical measurements, not your feelings. Go you my channel and look at the video called "does bike weight matter". I physically weigh the "top heavieness" of the T7 and the 790. Both are the same weight when lifting from the handlebar with 15L of fuel in both bikes.
I think that because the seat height is lower on the 790, you think it is less top heavy.
It is a myth unless you can empirically prove it to me otherwise.
@@Gbner my video here: ua-cam.com/video/Ze8rsxrITTA/v-deo.html
Great and funny review! Compliments 😄
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That was a great presentation. Thank you. 😊
Great video. I am excited about possible video series of a new trip. Watch the dragon tour twice lol.
Thank you! The great thing is that as much as aI love the trips, I love making the movies also. So I get twice the fun.
@@NomadSweden That is great then. The first series was sooo good. I am more excited about the new trip than the latest Marvel movies 🤣
Excellent Robert, cheers!
@4:28 there's no free lunch as they say... I am very reluctant to do mods just because a lot of people say it works, probably after just a couple of hours of testing. Sorry you had to learn it the expensive way .
Cheers for the great, detailed review (I'm looking to buy one). What is the maximum sustained cruising speed for motorway riding, solo but with enough camping gear for a long weekend/bike rally? Not including beers 🙂
Not sure max but I have gone 130-140 km/h for long stretches. Without beer 😊It’s bot a power problem but a comfort problem
Çok güzel motosiklet sizde çok güzel geziyorsunuz teşekkür ederim
Tks Robert for this down to earth review. But Swedes, are down to earth, right? I can't, think of a better bike to use for a really long trip! Few things to really go wrong, an engine that never breaks, no electronics can go wrong and you can switch off the ABS. What more can you ask? Have a great summer and pls contact if you were to pass through central France. Cheers!
Thanks! and I agree!
Great review and enjoyable to watch. Have you done a lot night riding and how did the standard lights perform? You mentioned right at the end you are charging them.
Thanks, Tony
Thanks. Standard lights are not great which is why many add auxillary lights. Sadly I did not make a comparison
Really good stuff the ACF 50
Great video! I sure hope my T7 will hold up as good as yours!
Here's a question from my side though - how do you manage to squize in some family time with those frequent rides? 😁
Thanks! Grown kids and a wife with horses 😊
Nice review Robert 🙂 after 50000km its a propper review l say.
Thanks Toby!
Very useful review! Thank you! 👍
superb video, totally real.
Great video 👊
Nice review! Thumb up and SUB. Regards from Poland.
Thanks from Sweden :)
Great review
Just ride for God sake . Great commend and as I feel about it. Now at 40.000 km 😉. Thanks for great review 👍
Thanks :)
I Actually sat on a Brand new T7 last week at the dealer, looking for a bike 50% in dirt as I already have a Concours 14 for street but cant bare to put a new T7 in the dirt and get any scratches on it much less laying it over Id cry for months 😢.. Maybe buy used soon...
Great honest review Robert, I'm entering the T7 market now at the time I am in marriage counseling with my Africa Twin...I'm not convinced we will pull through.🤔
Best thing about bikes is they don’t boil your pet rabbit when you try to leave
Superb!
Well done !
Thanks!
Nice video and review Robert...I have only 25 thousand kilometres on mine but its used all year round and is doing great. Feel happier I've changed the plugs and sussed out how to do that. A spring from Rally Raid and B+B rear rack is next. Just fitted an Atlas throttle lock...works well on the long road rides. I love the aesthetics of the bike..and the engine is a gem..! Cheers, Steve
When cold I always engage clutch and open throttle a little and release clutch suddenly. only then I put 1st gear smoothly.
Thanks! will try
Engine off. 2nd gear, pull in clutch, rock bike fwd & aft
Frees up plates. Works on my SRX600
Very nice review ! I would ask about better protection wind/rainbetween BMW and T7 ?
Well, both GS 1250 and 850 are more oriented to touring with larger screens, so they have better wind and rain protection.
@@NomadSweden Yes, but which one of them? I had the BMW, never rode a T7. But seems that it's more lighter and nimble and would take it .
Yes i like the t7 better. I dont need the extra comfort of the GS. I had the GS1200 adventure
How do you care about the chain? Do you lubricate it (if yes, how often and what do you use for it)?
Btw. thanks for all the great materials on your channel! :)
Thank you. I actually do not lubricate it very often. I use WD40 and just make sure the chain is clean. I lube it when it looks dirty. No special intervals.
Did you mention your chain guard addition? It's not included in US models. Accessory item. How important is it? Or is it just a paper weight? Great informative video by the way! I just took delivery of my 2023 last month. Loving it.
I forgot to mention that I added the chain guard. So far it has been a paper weight I think :) But it would prevent branches etc from being chugged in to the sprocket. If it prevented such an event? No idea :)
Good video very informative
I have watched most of your videos about the T7 since you have it and bought one myself last year and juste past 15k on it. Thx for all the tips and the wonderfull videos? I did some myself on my channel if you have few minutes to spare ^^
Thanks! Will check for sure!
You have something good there. Voice overs and different angles. Like it even if I don’t speak French. (Subtitles?)
@@NomadSweden Thanks for the feedback ! I'll try doing some subtitles on the next 😁 I am glad You took the time to see one 😇
Happy to help if You come by the French Alpes 👌
Great video
Interesting, as a lot of road tests I've read in the past rate the t7 a little top heavy compared to similar bikes.