Some of you are saying the audio is broken at Vibrant but we can't seem to find any issues when we play it back...Maybe a UA-cam issue? Post your issues below.
So many people think a supra is slow unless its making 4 digit horsepower. What they don't think about is that even at like 450hp this thing is still going to be faster than 95% of street cars.
This is the exact reason why I've never looked at a single turbo kit for any of my straight six cars , supras or my n54 I love hearing a blow off valve release 10 psi at 2,500 rpm. Upgraded stocks FTW.
I love the thought process you guys have when deciding what parts to use on a car. I really like how it’s being built to make good numbers but it’s for the street so your not sacrificing the drivability. Super responsive and smooth.
I love this. This is what YT channels should be doing: using parts that would normally be questionable because they are untested. Anyone channel can go with the most expensive parts and achieve success but they are always the most tested parts and offer no new knowledge. Thanks guys!!
Love the cast manifold!! Im a huge fan of turblown's cast manifolds for RX-7s and i think the compactness and strength of a cast manifold is perfect for a dual purpose street/track car
when i saw the video title i was "like oh no... it's the exhaust manifold". clicked on the video n boom i was pleasantly surprised to see you guys got the part so quickly!
@@Skirk84 that’s true. But I just wanted to point out the entire design of twin is for efficiency not only in peak power but response and spool. It’s why I run twin on my current set up. Dropped my spool by about 700rpm.
@@mrmidnight32 I'm running twin scroll myself, with a steam pipe manifold. Its the easiest way to do things most of the time, I'm making 26psi at 3000rpm so its nice and responsive. But I've seen comparisons for similar manifolds and shorter runners make a lot of difference, and smaller intercooler pipes will make throttle response much better. I'm looking forward to seeing these results
Hey pretty cool that you guys are preserving emissions compliance. Steve Dinan was saying on the Smoking Tire podcast that his customers were only losing like 15 whp on a 900 whp BMW when they ran catalytic converters.
Did you guys exported the voice Chanel of the video in Stereo? Then all the phones with mono speaker can't hear the second half. Export the conversation at vibrant as mono.
I have had Vibrant 2way cat and resonator on my Ej8 for about 7 years the cat has some dings in the bottom but it all still looks great even in the rustbelt
Manifold looks similar to the SPA manifold which is also designed in Australia. Too bad my EFR didn’t fit so had to upgrade to the s23 manifold. Interested how this thing will sound!!
My only concern would be cracking from expansion and shearing studs, you can normally get away with a 4 cyl manifold like that but 6 Cylinder manifolds grow so much that they crack between the the runners normally the back two. Fingers crossed it’s all good.
@@Skirk84 only if materials, design and manufacturing align, both welded tube or cast can work, both can fail, it takes good engineering and material science to work for a long period. A lot of manifold design will elongate the stud mounting holes to allow for heat expansion and growth in length which can be more than 15mm, this can shear studs and wear out gaskets, gaps between header flanges can help, grouping the cylinders into two pairs of three with some sort of slip/expansion bellows can help, plus material treatments, remover all stress raisers like sharp corners, edges, abort thickness changes etc, also heat treating and shot peening can help as well. The finish of this manifold casting looks good and these sorts of designs can perform very well, I hope it works out well, hopefully any failure(s) will only become apparent after many 10’s of thousands of miles. 👍
I'm still interested to see how the full-race manifold and garrett turbo do on another car, in a road course application, and not simple drag racing. They tout that the twin scroll aspect really helps with transient response!
DP…PT…this change in direction in the A80 is clutch…much prefer the throttle response enhancements and minimizing lag over yet another 1000hp Supra Build…as DP knows: “It ain’t the size of the wand…it’s the magic in it!”
Can this guy do 1HDT manifolds? they're known for having issues #1 and 6 for not getting enough air on intake and i reckon the exhaust could be more efficient
Motive Video recently made a mention about Mine´s "response monster" R34, and apparently the secret sauce was shortening the gear ratio. It´s in the Top ten tips and tricks for Skylines video.
You can have both ya know. It's called displacement, compression and variable valve timing. VVTi head on a 3.2 or 3.4 stroker that is setup around 9.8-10.5:1 will spin up a big turbo like butter. It doesn't need to make 40psi to produce 7-800rwhp and a fat, broad torque curve. It's certainly not cheap either haha. But neither is an A80.
Yeah Michael that's what I opted for. Twin scroll 67mm turbo, 3.4L, 850whp at 26psi. Full boost at 3000rpm, and it's just on that verge of being not too laggy. 1 size bigger housing would have killed the build. Its the transient response that's hard to maintain with 70+mm turbos even with a 3.4. Coming out of a corner and feeding on that throttle you don't want any delays!
Oops. No talkie all walkie. LOL. Vibrant we don't blame you. We blame JDM. Not enough turbo. So what you're wanting is basically exactly what you got from the 335i when you had that. As I've said the N54 335i's and 135i's are the way of the cheap power and yet very driveable power. Awesome cars not just for thew money but period. Now you NEED to build one like this and race them. Go big big power on it not like the other one you did with just a mild 400hp tune or whatever it was but one that's a 700hp tune. YEA BABY YEA!
I don't normally skip ads in your videos boys but today, on your 12m40s video I got one that was 33minutes....lol. forgive me for skipping this one time 😅
Move that lump of the battery to the boot (trunk), will make under bonnet (hood) life easier and battery life easier as well. It’s a massive lump to have out in front of the front suspension 👍
This issue with having a single wastegate on a vband flanged turbo is boost creep issues. Since turbo design/ technology has grown so much over the years they flow so much better now. So with having a vband flange it flows even more better. People figures oh ok so juat run a larger wg and in theory it sounds better, but it in fact is not. You will have a much easier time controlling boost with two 44mm wg then a say single 50mm.
Lol is it CFD optimized for the engine's firing order? If so they should collect at different lengths depending on firing order, some merging at the "collector" Maybe a slightly fancy log manifold.
Some of you are saying the audio is broken at Vibrant but we can't seem to find any issues when we play it back...Maybe a UA-cam issue? Post your issues below.
It comes up as really boomy in the vibrant section...like the space of the warehouse has been amplified or something
@@PeterPangea for me not Voice auto at all only music
It seems like DP's mic is off or isn't working. The Vibrant guys' mic sound fine.
at 6:30 the voice sound drop but not the music
Edit: at 9:11 everythings fine
Yeah, no sound starting at 6:30 for a couple of minutes, then no sound again at 11:45
Happy to be apart of this project guys, can't wait to give this car our best!
i use you guys for all my exhaust components, the quality is unmatched, you guys are awesome
Vibrant synonymous with quality. 🤘
Aaron @ Vibrant is the man! They are in great hands!
They can work some serious, quality magic.
@@arcadiagreen150 vibrant is quality, just spelled differently
A responsive Supra is definitely more interesting than a peaky powerhouse that just spins till 5th gear
There is room in my heart for both.
So many people think a supra is slow unless its making 4 digit horsepower. What they don't think about is that even at like 450hp this thing is still going to be faster than 95% of street cars.
This is the exact reason why I've never looked at a single turbo kit for any of my straight six cars , supras or my n54 I love hearing a blow off valve release 10 psi at 2,500 rpm. Upgraded stocks FTW.
This
Herasy!
There is an issue with the sound guys. It starts at the vibrant location all the way to the end of the video
same here its weird
Can confirm
Comes back near 9mins
No issues here at all
It is same here
Stoked to see a A80 and 2J response build!!! We've all seen the high HP builds before. The track battle will be glorious!
That cast manifold is a work of art!
Sounds fine at your place. As soon as it cuts to vibrant it sounds like the microphone is muffled and distant.
6:27 is completely broken until 9:13 when it sort of work but then it's in and out past that
I love the thought process you guys have when deciding what parts to use on a car. I really like how it’s being built to make good numbers but it’s for the street so your not sacrificing the drivability. Super responsive and smooth.
I love this. This is what YT channels should be doing: using parts that would normally be questionable because they are untested. Anyone channel can go with the most expensive parts and achieve success but they are always the most tested parts and offer no new knowledge. Thanks guys!!
Oh no, no sound at about 7:00 when you got to vibrant
Can hear voices by 8:20, but music is too loud to make out what's being said.
Yeah their mics werent on.
Fantastic! That cast manifold looks exceptional.
Love the cast manifold!! Im a huge fan of turblown's cast manifolds for RX-7s and i think the compactness and strength of a cast manifold is perfect for a dual purpose street/track car
when i saw the video title i was "like oh no... it's the exhaust manifold". clicked on the video n boom i was pleasantly surprised to see you guys got the part so quickly!
Oh I miss the mine’s GTR! That video o Tsuchiya test driving the car was awesome. Street response sounds great
With these 2 supra cars and gtr. You guys will definitely Crest 500k subs. Very well deserved, long time coming.
Gigantic intercooler is going to slow response. It adds a large volume in your intake, the opposite of using smaller piping like you are doing.
stoked to see someone still developing a80 parts that manifold is sick. Wish we had that a decade ago when I built mine.
Love it when I hear AB + Canada contributing to aftermarket part options and doing some homegrown manufacturing.
Twin scroll isn’t just about peak power. Twin spools faster than single due to efficiency.
You will find the shorter runners and smaller rear housing more than make up for the loss of the twin scroll setup
@@Skirk84 that’s true. But I just wanted to point out the entire design of twin is for efficiency not only in peak power but response and spool. It’s why I run twin on my current set up. Dropped my spool by about 700rpm.
@@mrmidnight32 I'm running twin scroll myself, with a steam pipe manifold. Its the easiest way to do things most of the time, I'm making 26psi at 3000rpm so its nice and responsive. But I've seen comparisons for similar manifolds and shorter runners make a lot of difference, and smaller intercooler pipes will make throttle response much better. I'm looking forward to seeing these results
@@Skirk84 haha same here! Only difference is mine is a mid mount set up.
Twin scroll response is good, but yeah smaller housings and manifolds make just add much difference.
digging the front/back strapping on the trailer. The angles on the cross strapping setup always gave me the heebie-jeebies!
Hey pretty cool that you guys are preserving emissions compliance. Steve Dinan was saying on the Smoking Tire podcast that his customers were only losing like 15 whp on a 900 whp BMW when they ran catalytic converters.
Looking forward to that turbo setup being all done.
Only UA-cam Channel I turned notifications on for
Did you guys exported the voice Chanel of the video in Stereo? Then all the phones with mono speaker can't hear the second half. Export the conversation at vibrant as mono.
Coffee and Speed Academy...Always a great start to my days!
What was the weight difference between the manifolds?
I have had Vibrant 2way cat and resonator on my Ej8 for about 7 years the cat has some dings in the bottom but it all still looks great even in the rustbelt
Have a very similar FSR cast manifold on my 2J Mk3. I wish I had known there was a Canadian option.
You just had to name their channel and I would have subscribed. Vibrant needs no words.
Manifold looks similar to the SPA manifold which is also designed in Australia. Too bad my EFR didn’t fit so had to upgrade to the s23 manifold. Interested how this thing will sound!!
My only concern would be cracking from expansion and shearing studs, you can normally get away with a 4 cyl manifold like that but 6 Cylinder manifolds grow so much that they crack between the the runners normally the back two. Fingers crossed it’s all good.
The Mk3 Supra manifold is a log (looking) manifold like that. They never crack.
Cast manifolds are far superior when it comes to cracking
@@Skirk84 only if materials, design and manufacturing align, both welded tube or cast can work, both can fail, it takes good engineering and material science to work for a long period. A lot of manifold design will elongate the stud mounting holes to allow for heat expansion and growth in length which can be more than 15mm, this can shear studs and wear out gaskets, gaps between header flanges can help, grouping the cylinders into two pairs of three with some sort of slip/expansion bellows can help, plus material treatments, remover all stress raisers like sharp corners, edges, abort thickness changes etc, also heat treating and shot peening can help as well.
The finish of this manifold casting looks good and these sorts of designs can perform very well, I hope it works out well, hopefully any failure(s) will only become apparent after many 10’s of thousands of miles. 👍
@@jamest5149 It looked easy to get on and off. Maybe if it cracks they can address the issue quickly. All v-band too
@@jamest5149 Yeah that's true. They seem to make a lot of quality products though.
I've got a cast artec mani with a g30-770 on the way for my evo...can't wait to see it in person!
Just want to say me and my friends really like your work here in Pakistan
Sound issues only on Dolby settings, none in any stereo settings for me. Keep up the great work guys!
As a guy who is super good at laying the very occasional bird poop line, Pete is a beast!!!! 🤣Love the videos guys keep it up!
My dream car is a supra and seeing videos like these are so nice. Thank you guys
Hd clamps are so sick! I’m surprised you went with the cast manifold tho!
Fantastic manifold and turbo choice for this build. Im happy to not just see another laggy 1000hp tire turner!
Vibrant Racing just posted this Supra on their channel too. Such a beautiful car.
I'm still interested to see how the full-race manifold and garrett turbo do on another car, in a road course application, and not simple drag racing. They tout that the twin scroll aspect really helps with transient response!
Man so excited for you guys. Keep it coming.
sweet manifold. looks like great quality!
"Insecurity over the girthyness" other people feel that a lot when i am urinating in public
6:30 polarity flipped?
Amazing manifold Artec killed it
DP…PT…this change in direction in the A80 is clutch…much prefer the throttle response enhancements and minimizing lag over yet another 1000hp Supra Build…as DP knows:
“It ain’t the size of the wand…it’s the magic in it!”
Not saying the Full Race manifold would have this problem, but the cast one will be a lot more durable than most tubular manifolds as well.
No voice audio at 7:00. Look good though!
there is, but for some reason Petes voice is at surround back channels
Report video with audio lol. I am intrested in hearing the whole vibrant conversation if possible. Great job guys. @speed academy
Can't imagine a better lunch break video than speed academy with a supra
Vibrant is cool but this thing deserves a true, classic HKS exhaust system.
That's what they got in the last video
Hks carbon ti. They sound mint, one of my favorites
Something happened to the audio when you guys got to vibrant, sounds like it's in stereo, right ear only heard music for a few seconda
You're killing it guy's keep up the amazing work !
Can this guy do 1HDT manifolds? they're known for having issues #1 and 6 for not getting enough air on intake and i reckon the exhaust could be more efficient
Motive Video recently made a mention about Mine´s "response monster" R34, and apparently the secret sauce was shortening the gear ratio. It´s in the Top ten tips and tricks for Skylines video.
You can have both ya know. It's called displacement, compression and variable valve timing. VVTi head on a 3.2 or 3.4 stroker that is setup around 9.8-10.5:1 will spin up a big turbo like butter. It doesn't need to make 40psi to produce 7-800rwhp and a fat, broad torque curve.
It's certainly not cheap either haha. But neither is an A80.
Yeah Michael that's what I opted for. Twin scroll 67mm turbo, 3.4L, 850whp at 26psi. Full boost at 3000rpm, and it's just on that verge of being not too laggy. 1 size bigger housing would have killed the build. Its the transient response that's hard to maintain with 70+mm turbos even with a 3.4. Coming out of a corner and feeding on that throttle you don't want any delays!
Oops. No talkie all walkie. LOL. Vibrant we don't blame you. We blame JDM. Not enough turbo. So what you're wanting is basically exactly what you got from the 335i when you had that. As I've said the N54 335i's and 135i's are the way of the cheap power and yet very driveable power. Awesome cars not just for thew money but period. Now you NEED to build one like this and race them. Go big big power on it not like the other one you did with just a mild 400hp tune or whatever it was but one that's a 700hp tune. YEA BABY YEA!
Does the dump pipe exhaust go through a catalyst? Cmon DP, keep it relatively clean! 🧐
That will be a beautiful car to drive. Those manifolds are beautiful
I like it way better than the full Reese one you had on previously nice
Was watching with just my right AirPod and couldn’t hear anything after 6:00 just the music
Yeahhhh Speed Academy!!!!!
brillant!! that is one pefect well made manifold WOW
Get some plazmaman/hypertune parts on it!
Looking forward to seeing the Progress.
No Audio at Vibrant for the most part....voice over would have helped
It definitely went to one speaker ( The right speaker on my set up)
@@blue04mx53 didn't hear most of it at all.....🤷
Are you guys building and filming the gtr at the same time or waiting until this is done?
I don't normally skip ads in your videos boys but today, on your 12m40s video I got one that was 33minutes....lol. forgive me for skipping this one time 😅
No sound from 6:30 - 9:00 and from 11:45 to the end.
How much will that manifold cost? I'm really interested
So is the Evo 6 dead in the water?
Hey man you gonna use HD clamps? What are your guys thoughts on HD clamps? HD CLAMPS HD CLAMPS HD CLAMPS
They look like some derivative of an Adel Wiggins clamp so I assume they’d work well.
Called it log manifold... only missing the internal gate LOL ;)
trunk battery relocate?
I like the hot side set up.
Move that lump of the battery to the boot (trunk), will make under bonnet (hood) life easier and battery life easier as well. It’s a massive lump to have out in front of the front suspension 👍
This issue with having a single wastegate on a vband flanged turbo is boost creep issues. Since turbo design/ technology has grown so much over the years they flow so much better now. So with having a vband flange it flows even more better. People figures oh ok so juat run a larger wg and in theory it sounds better, but it in fact is not. You will have a much easier time controlling boost with two 44mm wg then a say single 50mm.
Yeah during the outro portion and a little into the interview with vibrant the audio wasn't working
You guys need to either build or alter your trail so it’s in airbags so you can get your cars on easily
Love the responsive design.
*Sounds like you lost a mic when you switched over to vibrant performance. 🙁
Please, measure the pressure in the IC pipes. Sub 3" on a 750 bhp won't work 100%.
Go 3" in and out from the IC.
Trunk mounted batteries, ftw. Helps with weight distribution as well.
Holy Echo Batman!
Obviously Dave will win. The Supra is better than they Skyline through and through 🤷♀️
It would be cool if you guys can find a Greddy Dragger exhaust for this beast . Classic just look and flair.
Isn’t that an HKS part, the ‘super dragger?’
They were popular back in the day, pretty big and heavy though.
@@zeroyon4562 in hindsight yes 👍🏾. It’s definitely gonna be heavier than say a Tomei or the like but the design goes well with the Supra body lines .
Cast manifolds are slept on heavily.
That's what I'm running, they make a ton of torque, broke a rod windowed my block and bent the other 5 rods
Love your attitude DP - and your goals for response over all-out horsepower!
But an A80 Supra will never be cooler than an R34 GTR... Sorry mate. :P
Lol is it CFD optimized for the engine's firing order? If so they should collect at different lengths depending on firing order, some merging at the "collector" Maybe a slightly fancy log manifold.
They have to collect at different lengths, they are all beside each other...
If you're going for that response build, that intercooler would be abit too large.
vibrant channel audio ok
I just prefer to move a large battery to the truck. Solves many things.
Here for the sound comments..
Dave. You’ve won against Pete this time. But never against moose.
Starting from min 6.50 you hear music not conversations
wow that is ultra fast Fast Travel even with my m.2 SSD it's not that fast...
Audio is messed up
awesome....
No left channel voice audio at the vibrant scene…
Can you guys build an sc300?