Opponent's drawback was definitely worse, speaking from experience. You need to ensure that when you reach the endgame (assuming you even do with the added risks of being forced to leave your king in the center) that you always have pieces to defend checks from, so by the you'll have wanted to discourage checks as much as possible and have at least traded queens or else you're screwed.
@@me-pk2kb The rating system the website gives is not always reflective of how difficult it actually is. It's just based on an elo system, and so with more people winning it on higher elos, the lower the difficulty it will appear on the scale and vice versa.
I feel like revealing the drawback every time defeated the point of increasing the elo. The drawback is assigned based on difference in elo, so the higher rated player would get harder drawbacks. But the difficulty of a drawback isn't proportional to the difficulty when your opponent knows about that drawback. Sometimes it makes little difference, sometimes it's unplayable once they know. In this case the game was basically over once your opponent saw it as long as they didn't blunder.
Well you see, simp doesn't really care about balancing his progress, as long as the video is entertaining enough. Like he does coward moves just for us to roast him while in fact he's not a coward. Right simp? Right?
@@pythagmathcat simp can't capture the king if the opponent's king hasn't captured, but the opponent's king can't capture if it can't move. That's why it was impossible Edit: haha I misinterpreted the rules can you believe it
@@thebigdug wrong. the drawback states that you can't capture with anything but same pieces your opponent captured with. So if the opponent takes with queen you can use your queen to capture pieces.
@@seeker296 in drawback chess you have to capture the king If the king is unmovable he can't capture anything Simp can't capture because of his drawback
my brain just skipped over the "in there" part of your last sentence, so I thought you said "good job hanging mate" and I was like, damn, that seems kinda harsh given this drawback was impossible to win with once revealed unless the opponent blundered.
Petition to have Simp redo this series with the starting ELO, but he doesn’t reveal his drawback. Him revealing his drawback constantly makes the video less fun.
Simp's fate was sealed as soon as he realized that initiating a queen trade would be literally impossible with this drawback. That said, I have no idea how you even could win with this kind of drawback revealed, much less at this elo rating...
You physically couldn't win against an opponent that knows what to do - provided the opponent doesn't capture, it's impossible for you to win because the game ends by capturing, not checkmating. The opponents first capture can just be your king.
@dylanharding5720 only way would be to check the king in a way where no other piece could defend it, forcing the enemy to move the king and resulting in them losing. But this guy play his position perfectly to the point where that was never a threat
@@WoodenClockwerk Except in Drawback Chess, checks don't force a move. You can still move freely, so even in check, the opponent could just ignore it since you can't capture the king anyway.
For people confused in the comments: If the opponent captures with a piece, that unlocks those pieces for Simp. It's not that he can only capture pieces that have already captured a piece of his. (The opponent's King is not inherently invincible due to it not being able to capture anything.)
there is no checkmate in drawback chess, you have to capture your opponent's king to win its invincible unless his opponent captures by mistake the best simp can hope for is a draw
@@HeroGuy3 I am aware. "You can only capture *with* piece types your opponent has captured with." Keyword being "with". Doesn't matter if what he captures has captured at all.
Unless you meant it's fully invincible since the opponent just didn't capture full stop. Which is true, but not what a large amount of comments are saying.
I hope one loss won't actually mean the end of the series, drawback chess is always fun to watch. As are all the other series. But it would be a shame to end it here.
By revealing the challenge, it became phisically impossible. Some challenges shouldn't be allowed to be revealed, or there should be a separate category where you would be paired with opponents with similar unreveallable challenges.
@@pythagmathcat That good to know, well, hope he is resting alright. Just be pantient and there will be more posts, we don't like to make youtubers hostage for our own sake
Probably would have been best not to move the center pawns. Force the opponent to capture before they can checkmate and use the knights to defend any smothers.
I would say there's merit in a strategy involving forcing the opponent to take instead of strongly encouraging it. The knight is the only piece that can jump over a solid line of pawns. I think Simp could've forced the queen or bishop to capture at least one pawn, giving at least a small chance at victory.
In normal chess, a game is still winnable without capturing (just do a check-mate), but not in drawback chess, where you need to actually capture the king.
This game should have been lost so much sooner if his opponent knew what they were doing. Good to know that as always, Simp is not a coward, and played the entire game out anyway.
Idea: every (/or every other) move you throw dice for which piece you have to move: 1- pawn, 2-knight, 3-bishop, 4- rook, 5-queen, 6- king; If piece cant move it's free move
yeah this one is actually impossible if you reveal it to your opponent, unless they had a lobotomy or something I'm guessing some of these challenges are balanced to NOT be revealed to your opponents
The way to win is to not advance your pawns too far. Get your knights out to defend against your opponent's knights as necessary, but don't give them a way to your king without taking something.
I think the only real attempt you could have made here was making a massive pawn wall that forces a capture to break through. Pushing the F pawn opened a diagonal that let the queen infiltrate, which they immediately noticed by moving f5, and you didn't defend by going bishop e3. If he takes with queen, you can retake with queen and be able to capture with knights. If he takes with knight, it blunders a woman.
opponents drawback: cannot move king your drawback: you may not capture anything 😄😄😄😄😄😄 next time, remember tyrion lannister ... bribe the rules committee with DOUBLE what the other guy did
Now that you've lost you should try again at the same elo without revealing your drawback to see if it actually impacted the game or if you're just that bad
Aww that fucking enemy drawback. If only you knew, you could've moved the queen to b4 instead of moving the bishop and given the opponent some trouble at least.
What trouble? Simp can't capture the king with any of his pieces because of his drawback. He can check the enemy king with a queen a rook and bishop at once and the enemy king would be perfectly safe.
LMAO, It was me in this game. At first, I thought it was weird that anyone would want to reveal that drawback. I even think the opponent might be chess simp.
@@UnknownUser-mj8rg I posted the link to the game here but it was automatically get deleted. You can use this id on game history in drawbackchess af9e27529ff3e675438b1f30882dc1e9/white
That drawback is genuinely unfair. If your opponent simply does not capture, then you simply can not win (as the site forces you to capture the king to win rather than simply checkmate). Which is exactly what happened here. This isn't impossible because it's just that difficult, it's impossible because the game physically does not allow you to win in that scenario.
Now I get that you aren't necessarily *supposed* to reveal your drawback, and if you hadn't then they wouldn't have known so they would've taken pieces, but still. Sheesh.
This combination of drawbacks was literally impossible to win from the start. In this particular site you have to capture the king to win, but the only way for Simp to capture the king would be for the opponent to have captured using king. Their drawback was that their king couldn't move, so a draw, stalemate, resignation, timeout, or random power or internet outage would have been the only non-losing conditions.
Your app must need an update, because mobile users (like myself) can’t even see the comments, until they open the comment section. Before then, the comments can’t even be seen.
@@JJ_R on my phone I still often can see the first comment. It usually depends on the video, as newer ones typically only show the comments directly below the video later. On Simps channel that can often be annoying.
Wait… A king is a piece. If an opponent king can’t move, and the Chess Simp can’t take the pieces that did not took anything in the game… Does that mean that Simp can’t take the enemy king (can’t win)?
Wait, he cannot move his king, that means his king cannot capture anything, which means Simp can never capture his king due to the drawback, right? How did Simp wins then? Isn't this game doomed to fail at the first place?
No, it means he cannot capture anything with his own king. The queen or any other piece would still be able to capture the king (if the opponent used a similar piece to capture something)
Wait this is unwinnable. He needs to make the king capture in order to get a chance at winning but the king could never capture because of the drawback. At best he could only get a draw.
Some drawbacks you're better off just aborting with. I wouldn't be surprised if no one has won with closed book, which causes you to instantly lose when you end your turn with an open file.
@@pythagmathcat Exactly, there aren't many drawbacks where you would not have a much harder time winning when revealed at the start. I've even found a fair amount of the drawbacks in the hard section on the scale to be farily reasonable as well and the opposite sometimes being true.
Wow, you really waited for 2 minutes despite understanding that you lost hoping the opponent would take a draw offer? I didn't know you were adapting the 100 rated playstyle in this way. That's kind of sad to see you start bming.
@@pythagmathcat but imo that makes it worse content. Like hidden this could be a decent drawback to play around. Shared it just depends on the opponent realizing that not captuing anything until the king has no way out is a good strategy
his king can't move therefore can't capture. you can't checkmate in drawback chess without actually capturing the king. simp can't capture a piece that hasn't captured. simp could never capture the king in this match. absolutely impossible
That was actually impossible with the opponent knowing your drawback and not having a real drawback themselves.
Yep, if you reveal this one in practically any situation, you just lose.
@@tarvoc746 if you reveal it after move 5 it would be okay, a lot of drawbacks would work better that way
Opponent's drawback was definitely worse, speaking from experience. You need to ensure that when you reach the endgame (assuming you even do with the added risks of being forced to leave your king in the center) that you always have pieces to defend checks from, so by the you'll have wanted to discourage checks as much as possible and have at least traded queens or else you're screwed.
Umm…did you read the website data? What are you talking about, simp’s drawback is rated 2x as difficult and he revealed it…
@@me-pk2kb The rating system the website gives is not always reflective of how difficult it actually is. It's just based on an elo system, and so with more people winning it on higher elos, the lower the difficulty it will appear on the scale and vice versa.
I feel like revealing the drawback every time defeated the point of increasing the elo. The drawback is assigned based on difference in elo, so the higher rated player would get harder drawbacks. But the difficulty of a drawback isn't proportional to the difficulty when your opponent knows about that drawback. Sometimes it makes little difference, sometimes it's unplayable once they know. In this case the game was basically over once your opponent saw it as long as they didn't blunder.
He isn't a Coward
You sound like a coward
Well you see, simp doesn't really care about balancing his progress, as long as the video is entertaining enough. Like he does coward moves just for us to roast him while in fact he's not a coward. Right simp? Right?
@@brianli6562 Let's find out. Simp, I dare you to _not_ reveal your drawback in the next video or you are a coward.
@@brianli6562 Trying to win a game with just your king against two rooks is not brave, is it? This is the same thing, but with more complexity
this game was theoretically impossible to win no matter what you did, what strange design lol
I did not expect to see you here, lol.
only because simp reveals the drawback, though.
@@pythagmathcat simp can't capture the king if the opponent's king hasn't captured, but the opponent's king can't capture if it can't move. That's why it was impossible
Edit: haha I misinterpreted the rules can you believe it
@@thebigdug wrong. the drawback states that you can't capture with anything but same pieces your opponent captured with. So if the opponent takes with queen you can use your queen to capture pieces.
@@thebigdugYou have it backwards. He can't capture WITH a peice type that hasn't captured. So the queen captures then the queen can take king.
At this point I genuinely think it would be more interesting to not show your opponent the drawbacks
Finally people see this
He used to not show them, the entire point of this series is to show them, though.
This is so unfair, the opponent could reveal his drawback and u still wouldn't have a chance
Good job hanging in there mate
You can checkmate pretty easily if king is unmovable
@@seeker296 in drawback chess you have to capture the king
If the king is unmovable he can't capture anything
Simp can't capture because of his drawback
my brain just skipped over the "in there" part of your last sentence, so I thought you said "good job hanging mate" and I was like, damn, that seems kinda harsh given this drawback was impossible to win with once revealed unless the opponent blundered.
Petition to have Simp redo this series with the starting ELO, but he doesn’t reveal his drawback. Him revealing his drawback constantly makes the video less fun.
A victory that didn’t involve even a single capture… only with you, Simp.
there was a capture, Nxd8#
@@user-m8k9d yeah but that's only required due to how Drawback Chess works, and is the singular capture that ends the game (the King).
Simp's fate was sealed as soon as he realized that initiating a queen trade would be literally impossible with this drawback.
That said, I have no idea how you even could win with this kind of drawback revealed, much less at this elo rating...
You physically couldn't win against an opponent that knows what to do - provided the opponent doesn't capture, it's impossible for you to win because the game ends by capturing, not checkmating. The opponents first capture can just be your king.
@dylanharding5720 only way would be to check the king in a way where no other piece could defend it, forcing the enemy to move the king and resulting in them losing. But this guy play his position perfectly to the point where that was never a threat
@@WoodenClockwerk Except in Drawback Chess, checks don't force a move. You can still move freely, so even in check, the opponent could just ignore it since you can't capture the king anyway.
@@nighthorder6542 ah truuuu then yeah ggs
Binary numbers are a bit hard but 1100 is actually 12.
Now it truly impossible drawback when you reveal it for your opponent
I guess we can all agree this drawback was so insane that you don't have to count this loss.
For people confused in the comments: If the opponent captures with a piece, that unlocks those pieces for Simp. It's not that he can only capture pieces that have already captured a piece of his. (The opponent's King is not inherently invincible due to it not being able to capture anything.)
there is no checkmate in drawback chess, you have to capture your opponent's king to win
its invincible
unless his opponent captures by mistake the best simp can hope for is a draw
@@HeroGuy3 I am aware.
"You can only capture *with* piece types your opponent has captured with." Keyword being "with". Doesn't matter if what he captures has captured at all.
Unless you meant it's fully invincible since the opponent just didn't capture full stop. Which is true, but not what a large amount of comments are saying.
Rip 100% wr
*1000%
I hope one loss won't actually mean the end of the series, drawback chess is always fun to watch. As are all the other series. But it would be a shame to end it here.
Great video I hope the series continues even after this loss
By revealing the challenge, it became phisically impossible.
Some challenges shouldn't be allowed to be revealed, or there should be a separate category where you would be paired with opponents with similar unreveallable challenges.
The opponent played very smart
Thank you. I was the opponent in this game.
@@somchai.sinsatianpawnoh wow. Makes sense, simp viewers are all very high IQ.
Imagine if both players get a drawback that prevents captures until the other player has captured
Draw
God, what an absolutely brutal, impossible, and stupid challenge.
I love those videos, then so interessting to watch and the gimmicky are fun. Just don't forget to take a break, ok?
@@pythagmathcat That good to know, well, hope he is resting alright. Just be pantient and there will be more posts, we don't like to make youtubers hostage for our own sake
Probably would have been best not to move the center pawns. Force the opponent to capture before they can checkmate and use the knights to defend any smothers.
I would say there's merit in a strategy involving forcing the opponent to take instead of strongly encouraging it. The knight is the only piece that can jump over a solid line of pawns. I think Simp could've forced the queen or bishop to capture at least one pawn, giving at least a small chance at victory.
0:20 that number is eleventy hundred
it's one thousand one hundred.
Eleventy hundred is 11000
That number is obviously eleventyty
onety one hundred
@@SorakaOTP462 actually it's oneteen-hundred
In normal chess, a game is still winnable without capturing (just do a check-mate), but not in drawback chess, where you need to actually capture the king.
This game should have been lost so much sooner if his opponent knew what they were doing. Good to know that as always, Simp is not a coward, and played the entire game out anyway.
Imagine a game between 2 players with this same drawback
It would be randomly moving pieces until probably a draw happens
No one would be able to capture anything - even the kings.
@@drawmanbr7008 not probably, its guaranteed draw because 50 moves without any progress is draw.
I mean technically someone could abandon or go for a resignation
Idea: every (/or every other) move you throw dice for which piece you have to move: 1- pawn, 2-knight, 3-bishop, 4- rook, 5-queen, 6- king; If piece cant move it's free move
This was literally impossible to win if your opponent knew your drawback
Absolutely impossible revealed challenge, but like, actually literally impossible
not literally, if the guy had captured with pawns, bishops, knights and queen, Simp could've won
@@San-lh8us Why would they tho? They see the drawback, there's no point in them taking anything
@@That_One_Kobold they probably wouldn't but it is still not literally impossible
@@San-lh8us
You're embarrassing yourself.
It’s not metaphysically impossible, but the opponent would have to know literally nothing about chess to lose.
Your opponent did the same thing. I would have just not capture anything.
I would've taken the queen, though when the time came.
The opponent was a coward for not revealing their lame drawback
this one was painful to watch
Absolutely surgical
Ironic the only one who can slay simp is the very rubber duck simp uses to slay others
Thank you. It was my who slay the Chess simp
yeah this one is actually impossible if you reveal it to your opponent, unless they had a lobotomy or something
I'm guessing some of these challenges are balanced to NOT be revealed to your opponents
The way to win is to not advance your pawns too far. Get your knights out to defend against your opponent's knights as necessary, but don't give them a way to your king without taking something.
I think the only real attempt you could have made here was making a massive pawn wall that forces a capture to break through. Pushing the F pawn opened a diagonal that let the queen infiltrate, which they immediately noticed by moving f5, and you didn't defend by going bishop e3. If he takes with queen, you can retake with queen and be able to capture with knights. If he takes with knight, it blunders a woman.
Could've made an exception and reveal the drawback after the opponent's first capture
damn, the opponent played that good
He literally could not lose it (unless he did something stupid)
Thank you for your compliment. I was the chess simp opponent in this game.
Wait. Really?
not really, he coulve just went in nd taaken the king in the first few move
> I don't know how to read that number
It's a number even larger than 5, so that checks out.
Draw offer and run off time? Serious, what a jerk move.
3:18 c7 would have extended the game. Think the loss was inevitable but c8 was definitely a blunder
very balanced drawbacks
he says 4 digit elo instead of 1000/1100 elo, even more proof he can't count above 4
I think that one shouldn't count as it was actually impossible
I wonder if there are any combination of drawbacks that makes the game impossible to finish
Your opponent should have revealed their drawback back, for maximum disrespect :D
Video 187 of asking simp to play fps chess
opponents drawback: cannot move king
your drawback: you may not capture anything
😄😄😄😄😄😄
next time, remember tyrion lannister
...
bribe the rules committee with DOUBLE what the other guy did
That hurt 😔
I'm impressed with your opponent for winning without taking a piece.
I am happy to hear that. I was the chess simp opponent in this game.
Now that you've lost you should try again at the same elo without revealing your drawback to see if it actually impacted the game or if you're just that bad
sich chromosome roast bro
Aww that fucking enemy drawback. If only you knew, you could've moved the queen to b4 instead of moving the bishop and given the opponent some trouble at least.
it wouldn't even matter because in drawback chess u gotta capture the king to win. if the opponent takes nothing, their king is invincible
What trouble? Simp can't capture the king with any of his pieces because of his drawback.
He can check the enemy king with a queen a rook and bishop at once and the enemy king would be perfectly safe.
@@slurmfeud the king cant move. read the drawback you bozo
Brutal
LMAO, It was me in this game. At first, I thought it was weird that anyone would want to reveal that drawback.
I even think the opponent might be chess simp.
Why didn't you reveal your drawback! Grr....
@@syockit Because there is no incentive for me to do so.
Proof or didn't happen
@@somchai.sinsatianpawn coward
@@UnknownUser-mj8rg I posted the link to the game here but it was automatically get deleted. You can use this id on game history in drawbackchess af9e27529ff3e675438b1f30882dc1e9/white
Holy smokes, that was disgusting.
Imagine both players getting this drawback?
Only the impossible could beat Chess Simp
I am the one who beat Chess Simp so this is a big complement for me.
Should have stock pilled every piece around your king
Okay, do this against a 100 rated opponent and write your drawback in the chat.
0% win rate now?
never play f6
That drawback is genuinely unfair. If your opponent simply does not capture, then you simply can not win (as the site forces you to capture the king to win rather than simply checkmate). Which is exactly what happened here.
This isn't impossible because it's just that difficult, it's impossible because the game physically does not allow you to win in that scenario.
Now I get that you aren't necessarily *supposed* to reveal your drawback, and if you hadn't then they wouldn't have known so they would've taken pieces, but still. Sheesh.
What the hell was this 300 iq opponent
Thank you for your complement. It was me in this video.
WHY AM I WATCHING CHESS
Lol, unwinnable against nearly any drawback that doesn't require captures...
I have a five digit elo
No you can take king I think
Yes, In drawback chess we can
You don't know how to read 1100??? And here I thought you were a maths expert smh!
This combination of drawbacks was literally impossible to win from the start. In this particular site you have to capture the king to win, but the only way for Simp to capture the king would be for the opponent to have captured using king. Their drawback was that their king couldn't move, so a draw, stalemate, resignation, timeout, or random power or internet outage would have been the only non-losing conditions.
rip
-100% win rate
*ANTI-SPOILER BARRIER*
(For mobile users)
Your app must need an update, because mobile users (like myself) can’t even see the comments, until they open the comment section. Before then, the comments can’t even be seen.
@@JJ_R on my phone I still often can see the first comment. It usually depends on the video, as newer ones typically only show the comments directly below the video later. On Simps channel that can often be annoying.
@@lukecox6317 Oh, right. That one. I hadn’t refreshed, so I forgot. My bad.
It doesn't even work though, since it doesn't always show the top comment and also changes the shown comment periodically
@@chri-k well, it doesn't look like this is going to be the top comment, so that's a moot point, but either way it's a stop gap.
Wait… A king is a piece. If an opponent king can’t move, and the Chess Simp can’t take the pieces that did not took anything in the game… Does that mean that Simp can’t take the enemy king (can’t win)?
0:20 Can't read the number 1100? Are you sure you're asian?
Wait, he cannot move his king, that means his king cannot capture anything, which means Simp can never capture his king due to the drawback, right?
How did Simp wins then? Isn't this game doomed to fail at the first place?
That only means Simp can't capture with his king
No, it means he cannot capture anything with his own king. The queen or any other piece would still be able to capture the king (if the opponent used a similar piece to capture something)
Any piece is able to take another piece as long as it has learned how. If the opponents queen takes a pawn your queen can then take his king.
Not really, If I were to capture his pawn with my queen. he then can use his queen to capture my King.
Wait this is unwinnable. He needs to make the king capture in order to get a chance at winning but the king could never capture because of the drawback. At best he could only get a draw.
As excellent as alw.. wait xD f..
So we can't take his king (?) this is impossible
The two drawbacks makes it so simp could never capture with his king, which is pretty irrelevant since simp couldn't capture anything anyway.
I think the site needs a balance patch
Some drawbacks you're better off just aborting with. I wouldn't be surprised if no one has won with closed book, which causes you to instantly lose when you end your turn with an open file.
@@pythagmathcat Exactly, there aren't many drawbacks where you would not have a much harder time winning when revealed at the start. I've even found a fair amount of the drawbacks in the hard section on the scale to be farily reasonable as well and the opposite sometimes being true.
Wow, you really waited for 2 minutes despite understanding that you lost hoping the opponent would take a draw offer? I didn't know you were adapting the 100 rated playstyle in this way. That's kind of sad to see you start bming.
Why you are always revealing the drawback? You are making the game harder for no reason.
cowardly of you to not reveal your drawback, he's in like the 2000 elo range im pretty sure lmao
He did a video at max elo (9999999) and crushed his opponent without disclosing his drawback, gotta make it competitive somehow.
Because he's not a coward
@@pythagmathcat but imo that makes it worse content. Like hidden this could be a decent drawback to play around. Shared it just depends on the opponent realizing that not captuing anything until the king has no way out is a good strategy
Your revealing your drawback games are not fun. They are boring suicide.
Day 47
Chess, but the game must end in a bishop and knight checkmate
1 view,40 second,u fell down lol
Unfunny comment
First here less gooooo
Early
First minute gang 👇
his king can't move therefore can't capture. you can't checkmate in drawback chess without actually capturing the king. simp can't capture a piece that hasn't captured. simp could never capture the king in this match. absolutely impossible