Yaesu FT 450D digital modes without a SignaLink or SCU 17 USB Interface
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- Опубліковано 14 лют 2019
- Yaesu FT 450D digital modes without a SignaLink or SCU 17 USB Interface
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Interesting digital setup. Thanks for showing us how to do digital modes on the cheap.
A very helpful thing that you could have added to the video was to show the Settings in WSJT-X, specifically for the Radio Tab in Settings and the Audio Tab in Settings. Also if there are certain settings on the computer that need to be adjusted, such as in the audio settings.
Thanks for a nice video otherwise.
Amazing rig the FT450D! Feature packed and very reliable.
Thanks for the info on the FT8 input into the FT-450D. I've had a 450D since 2016 and your spot on
in that it is an easy to use well made rig. I have made over 6000 QSO's with in 7 years and it shows no sign of fatigue. I keep the output watts as low as required to make contacts.
Hi Paul, playing catch up again! We've just sold our house and bought a new one so pretty hectic this end! I'm getting a bedroom to use as a workroom so lots to do come May! It'll be great to have a decent space to work in! You're certainly doing your bit to promote the ham cause!
Thanks for taking the time to uploading this video, I will be using the 450 for ft8 and was going to buy a signal link but I will give the cable a try, looks nice and easy to set up.
My computer only has headphone speaker out no microphone jack. Would a USB microphone/ speaker converter work please. Thanks for reply in advance.
Where u able to use the cable with your computer?, I Havent been able to use it
Hi yes I am using the cable now with mine. Thanks
@@gbpauluk could you tell me step by step how to aconplish this with jtdx using ft8, I connect this cable and set the program, but just receice data loss. Do I need any extra cable or somethink link that?
Thank you for the run down on this. I have an 897D that I am getting configured for winlink messaging. Nice video and good luck to you on the health side of life.
Thanks for the video, but how do you key the transmitter? Why don't you need a connection to the FT-450D's PTT pin 3?
That was very helpful - just purchased this radio. Thank you for the info!
Check out my video on getting started with FT8 too.
Thanks for answering this question of mine. I just picked up this radio.
I just bought a FT-891 and was looking for alternatives to buying a rig interface. I was reading a post in a forum about making your own version of this cable using the CT39A cable and a couple 3.5mm plugs. After watching this video, I'm just going to buy one!
For the cost, it's just not worth making your own.
Any chance you did a video setting up digital with ft450d? I can’t get mine working. It would be much appreciated. Clearly I’m missing something.
The settings would be really helpful. I purchased the cable from your affiliate link. My cable had pink and green tips so I guess they go crossed. I own the very same radio and I can't get it to work. Again a follow-up with settings for both WSJTX and the FT-450 would be greatly appreciated.
And before you say it....yes we expect you to teach/spoonfeed the entire process. That's why we watch UA-cam in the first place. Thanks.
Great video, very helpful!
Great video thanks for this. I’m new to this system so what is the software for using with those leads. Thank you 2E0GXL.
Great video. I have a 450 D.What are the settings on the 450 D.
Also, for older radios I use the EASY DIGI interface. About $10 Epay. I use them plugged into the phone patch connections on the back of my Kenwood TS 820s and Heathkit SB-104a. If no phone patch you can use the headphone and mike inputs sometimes also on the back of many rigs. Thanks for saving many guys lots of money. AB1ZI 73
EDIT you use the VOX for transmitting.
Hi, thanks for the video. I understand the Data -> Audio cable is a good cheap solution for FT-8 but I'm wondering if you can explain if there are advantages of the Yaesu / Singalink boxes as compared to the audio cable?
Isolation is the only thing I can think of.
Hey. Nice video tis will be my 1st radio in a few months if I'm a ham radio op. Q: How are you "pressing" PTT? Did you connect the CAT cable?
You probably figured it out by now, but it’s just VOX
Thanks for the video! I picked one up and am using on my FT-857. The audio is coming In fine, but I'm not able to trigger PTT. What are your settings to make this work?
It might be the VOX settings.
I dont think this has a ptt pin. Youd have to use vox
HI Paul, my Elmer's explained to me when I came to that point with my BITX 40 that I need to make an "Isolated Audio" interface. It's necessary to isolate the computer from the radio so as not to create a ground loop that can pick up and or radiate noise. And there is the difference in voltage potential between the two things that could lead to zapping the sound card circuitry when being connected. When I made mine I borrowed from the Easy Digi schematic on every sellers site and used a USB sound card for further protection that I can also use with a Raspberry PI which is lacking a useful sound card for this purpose. Anyway the most useful purpose of those expensive interfaces is that they are isolated circuits for better performance and equipment safety. Easy Digi could be a good electronics video too for many non-hams who work with audio and want to avoid ground loops there too. Thanks for listening to my 2 cents.
John, no problem and thanks for taking the time to comment, I appreciate it. Now I am new to ham radio. Got my tech and general in February of 2018 and my Extra in Sept. 2018 so I certainly do not know all about radios. In fact I am a noob in that arena. I can see the point of what your Elmer told you and it makes makes perfect sense.
From my point of view an an E.E. the PC is grounded at my household earth ground. The radio power supply is grounded there also, and my antenna is grounded to an 8ft copper clad steel rod in the yard that is bonded to my house ground. i would say, in my opinion, they are all at the same potential. But I may well be wrong and Im going to do some research on this issue. Thanks again for pointing it out.
@@learnelectronics I may have overlooked a detail, I thought you we're using a Laptop, which isn't always connected to ground because of portable battery power use sometimes. Your star topology of grounding is great, but you should also try to avoid ground loops through equipment. Also, I'm interested in hearing about the FT-450D as I have heard it provides the best bang for the buck in a beginner radio. It's on my wish list. But the IC-7300 does seem way more popular, but how much better is it really?
@@JohnSmith-bb2np get a ft991a and save kg6mn
Do you think I could hook up your way with the ft991a? I have had no luck getting running thru a usb cable.
Super, i have a 450D, and an 897D this will work with,.. simply shocked, i did not see anyone shoe thus option previously 73s
Helpful but not near enough info. How does the software fu cation with the radio, change the frequency on the radio from the ft-8 software etc?
Did you change some settings on the radio? I want to do this quietly but if I turn the volume down on the radio then WSJTX doesn't get any input. Thanks
Awesome - I'm going to get one for my 891.
Nazmi Hasan will 891 works without having signallink?
Thanks, great tip. However, you have failed to mention one really important thing. You have said in your video that the 6-pin DIN to the two 2.5mm jack connecters is all you need and there is nothing fishy going on and that you are showing us everything. Actually, you haven't shown us that you need a CAT connection for PTT transmit which isn't included through the DIN connection. Also, what is the software you are using?
Just enable VOX on the radio. It will go into transmit when sound is present....
@@VoeViking Thanks, that's great, I didn't know about vox. I've just got round to trying WSJT-X on my computer. However, I was wondering if you could help. I am trying to make it work with the Digi-vox feature on the radio. My digital-vox PTT does turn on and off with sounds from the computer soundcard, which I discovered by accident. In the WSJT-X software itself however, when you click the tune button, it causes the radio to transmit but when you click the button again, it will not stop transmitting at all. I cannot figure out why. I've tried everything and on the verge of giving up. Wondering if you can help? Thanks in advance
@@avaughan585 Late to the game on this, but you want to adjust DVOX, not VOX. DVOX applies to the rear data port; VOX applies to the front mic port. Found this out when I bought a device from overseas that is essentially a USB sound interface with integrated cable (it even came in a 3D-printed dongle head). Simple interconnect, no need for CAT switching.
Just a point to note. This method is for FT-8 ONLY. If you want OTHER digital modes, my best suggestion is the Tigertronics USB Signalink. Also, it is very frustrating to see a video with a title such as this one, suggesting you can do digital modes without an interface. People, saying "Digital Modes", dos NOT exclusivly mean FT-8. Quite frankly, FT-8 is not the end all in digital modes. I have been there and done that, and it has no EMCOMM use. Quite frankly this videos title was "CLICK BATE", for FT-8!
Great video very interesting. I', hoping to go portable with my yaesu 891 and would like to do ft8 while i'm portable will the mike and speeker cable work with my 891?
thanks Nick 2E0NAQ
tks for great video.
Nice video. The creaking camera stand sounds like my back.
Haha, mine too
I do have a question will that cable interface work if I'm just using a Chromebook?
Great video. But although i understand the sound input/output part, how does the PC controls the transceiver (tx/rx)? Is it vox style?
No, you need a DIN to USB cable for CAT control and PTT
@@learnelectronics meaning? Like i have db9 to usb, and already buying 6pin mini din with speaker jack end to end. Now need tondo the soldering work. Just connect for datain and data out?
@@learnelectronics I thought the CAT control was using the DB9 on the back of the radio, not a DIN. Is that incorrect? Would it be like a Prolific USB to RS232 converter cable from radio to pc?
Hi and thank you for this video.
I use SignalLink for a FT-450D now but nice to see it's possible to use digimodes with a FT8... Audio Interface Cable. I may use the SignalLink with a FT-1000MK in stead.
Have you any ideas how to remote control the FT-450D? Except with HRD? Could it be done with Fldigi ? Do I need a serial cable - for what?
Is it possible to run digi mode with a similar Audio Cable also for FT-1000MK Mark-V?
73 Alf
OH6IH
Is these cables for FT-1000MP MARK-V ?
Great Video! I have the 450D as well and I was wondering what settings in the radio do you setup for digital modes. Again thanks for the video!
I have an FT-450D and Signal Link. It works fine with FlDigi but NOT WJXT. I'm having issues with it wanting a com port for rig control and have tried two cables into the DB-9 Jack. One with USB on the end to computer and the other DB-9 o both ends. Device Manager seeing cable but on FlRig. Wish you would have gone one more step showing rig Control and if you could change r=frequencies in the WJXT sofware or had to do it manually.
Great video.This was nice to know. I have just received my new ft-891 and have ordered thus cable. What setting should i make on the radio?
cool video . can you get that with a usb connection ?
What software would people recommend on a MacBook?
Thank you Sir! 73!
I got it going with the dc-11 cable and the rt software cable now she is up and running tnx
will this work on a ft817
What are you using for an antenna system - have yet to install ???
I have the same setup as you but I have a few questions on how you set up the 450D and the Ft8 program.
i know im not the guy that made the video but i use wsjtx and am running a ft450d and you asked 2 weeks ago but if you still have questions i will try to help
I have a Friend with a FT-450 and this cable. the radio recieve but dont transmit. Any HINT to fix it??? WP4QIB
Proving tricky to get one of these cable sin the UK.. but Many thanks! - I'll make one if I can't find one ;)
Still no good :(
Does this cable have any isolation built in?
I use an FT-991 so I'm just guessing here. Can I assume all it took was to tell WSJT (and the other programs) to use VOX in order to do your keying for you? I'm assuming it will, which makes this perfect timing. We have new Ham with a 450. He's trying to get on FT8. This would be perfect.
Thank you.
Vox will work just fine
VOX is a great idea, and it's what I'm going to try when my cable arrives :). Just a note about the FT-450D, if you haven't seen it elsewhere: I *think* you may need to adjust the menu item called DIG VOX (default is OFF), rather than VOXGAIN, depending on the mode you use on the rig. In this vid, you can see WW8PR has the rig set for "plain voice" LSB on 40m (not DATA LSB), so presumably VOXGAIN is the way to go.
I like your channel a lot and on this one I can not but agree with you, the Icom 7300 is a 1000$ radio (brand new) and it is a SDR radio with immensely more capability then the yaesu 450D. Both directly on the radio controls as well as when connected to a computer.
It's likely the Icom 7300 does not get the 500$ price range on the used market but the radio sets a new standard on HF and Multiband radio's with totally integrated SDR capability.
The Yaesu is in deed a great great radio but the "new kid on the block" is indeed the Icom 7300.
Love my 7300. It has changed the face of amateur radio for ever. It's like aircraft going from ic to turbine. The ability to see a signal, live, changes everything. Folks are dumping their ts-480s , ft-450s, and ic-7000s in droves.
@@learnelectronics Yup, for the 1000$ price tag it's indeed a game changer. There were radios like the ic 7300 but for a huge price tag. The 7300 has great capabilities all integrated in the radio and for 1000$. It's actually forcing a lot of others radio to drop the price a lot in the used market. That's why we get a ton of those very very good Yaesu 450D for 500$ and less .. because everyone is saying ..hey ... for 1000$ I get a Band new with warranty Icom 7300 with SDR capabilities and excellent PC interface! So all other good radios out there must drop their prices on the used market. I expect all other name brands to reply to Icom with radios with the same of better capability and for the same or lower price tag of sales pick-up on that segment :) ...
What was the other cable you used with the Ft450 to trigger the PTT
Ok, but how you can secure your pc motherbord from ham radio RF impact without galvanic isolation which is very critical in such connections? A common damage of laptops' motherboard is caused by this. The RF on the motherboard's ground !!!
very helpful
You're missing two key features of the signalink. Once is obviously the PTT feature so as to not rely on VOX for keying. The other is probably more important and that is that the signalink is electrically isolated from your radio. I do not recall (been a bit since i looked inside) if its using optoisolators or audio transformers to accomplish this but it is important.
That said, just adding an audio transformer to your setup can be done. They're not expensive and can be picked off amazon or ebay or whatever.
Last point, the signalink isn't cheap but its a pretty good little device. The isolation along with the jumper configuration to allow it to mate with pretty much any radio is very handy as well as the physical dials to control audio levels in and out of the device.
Does someone have the software settings for the Yaesu FT-450D when using this 6 pin data connector? I bought the cable, my PC has one audio port, so I bought the correct single pin unit for my pc. Anyway, I can receive on FT-8, but not transmit. It has to be the setting on the software of perhaps the radio? Can someone offer a bit of advice> Many thanks!
the link for the cable has gone down - any chance you could post again? Great video by the way!
Yep I was also searching for a link, can't find one!
@@new_fone_who_dis www.ebay.com/itm/3-FT-FT8-FT4-JT65-PSK-Audio-Interface-6-Pin-Mini-DIN-Cable-DC-11F-for-YAESU/164271660779?hash=item263f5a9eeb:g:SCEAAOSwnDpaI31s
Can you please do a set up video
Is this working with an Ft 900?
Hi there! Can you use winlink with this setup?
Have you ever tried CW with Ham Radio Deluxe using just the keyboard? If so what are the settings.
73s
Kd2osr
No I haven't, sorry.
@@learnelectronics Thank you, keep up the good work.
Hi Carl, I have the cable and have a few set up issues txing any chance you can do a video or write me the settings you use on the programme and also the radio settings.. Thanks
Im not sure who Carl is. I'm Paul. Email me @arduino0169@gmail.com and I'' try and help you out. 73 de WW8PR
Hi Paul thanks for replying I have sorted it and making plenty of contacts cheers 🍻
Hamlib error: IO error while opening connection to rig?
runs that in JS8CALL Setup? Please tell us 👋🙏👍🍀👋👍
Great, thanks
Can you help with the FT8 settings in the software?
This model's been around for more than 30+ years they just keep revamping it... funny thing is I really like how simple everything is on this radio I know it doesn't have all the bells and whistles but as a camping/rving radio it seems to fit the bill
The original ft450 was introduced in 2008, this radio in 201x-2020
I have the cable it works receive! SO tell me what is the secret ? I can not get the transmitter to work ? I have HRD ? HELP
Thank you soooo much, you just saved me from a divorce or at the very least sleeping in the dog house for a year.
Been contemplating a signalink for my 891 but now i can save the money for other ham stuff. DON"T TELL THE WIFE!
Yep, no signal link necessary. Now you can use that money for an FTDX101d.
Makes a S/H FT450D seem a good buy.
What an axing video! Thank you! 73 M6CEB
I see you have the IPO in the off position. This means the receive preamp is on. Your impression of this radio will be greatly improved if you turn the receive preamp off. You will see the noise floor go way down. I know it is looks wrong but when IPO is in the off posttion the receive preamp is on. That is why the DSP is not working as good as it should. You are amplifying the noise floor. The DSP makes a BIG DIFFERENCE on CW.
If you turn the preamp off you aren't you reducing your wanted signal too? I'm just thinking from a DX perspective
What is the software you are using in the video to connect with radio?
Ham Radio Deluxe
@@learnelectronics that was a good move for any radio
Can that data cable be used on a yaesu ft-100d
nice call out. Gonna get me one. 73.
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I cannot get mine to work. no test will go through. what have i done wrong?
great vidio.I remember using this type of connection yrs ago with the single core processors an worked fine.Glade someone is teaching the younger hams an maybe a few older ones like me that home brewing is good
do you need a usb data cable to make the dc-11f work with the ft450d? where does it go,from what to what?
Yes you do
where does it go from what to what?
I assume a regular serial cable would work also if your computer has a serial port?
Only for CAT control. You must use the DATA post for FSK
DATA port* sorry
I have the previous model yaesu ft-450at does will work with this cables ?
If it has the DIN connector you are good to go.
@@learnelectronics shure it has the din conector , I am having trouble finding the DC11F yaesu cable
I have that radio and have made over 1100 QSO's with a signolink.
2.5ft FT8 / JT65 / PSK DC-11F Audio Interface Cable For Yaesu FT-991,891,857,897,450, the cable comes in usb, and it can work winlink
Hola Jonathan lo usas en el ft450D?
I made my own cable by geting a 6' 6 pin PS/2 cable and cutting it in half. Also, I did use a cheap (
did you ever get Hamlib error: IO error while opening connection to rig?
DOES THIS WORK ON THE YEASU FT-450( KE4VIF)
i know its a little late and you have probably already gotten something but for anyone else looking yes it will work for FT450D
what about if PC has only USB ?
Will it work with winlink
Is internet required when making contact or just via antenna?
Contacts via antenna only, but logging requires internet
You do not need an internet connection.
And you can log using the WSJT-x logging software included with WSJT-x unless you want to use something like LoTW.
However, to run FT-8 you need to be in good time-synch with all other users. Time synch is usually, and most easily, accomplished via a connection to the internet. Newer versions of Windows 10 have built-in tight time synchronization, but with older versions of Windows (I am guessing that you use Windows) you may need to download a free synching program like Dimension4 to achieve sufficient accuracy. You can go to the webpage time.is to see how well synch'd you are. Mine says "Accuracy of synchronization was ±0.011 seconds", (i.e., off by 11 milliseconds) which is good.
Ok me again I think my yaesu FT-450at is not going to work even if I find the cable because this radio does not have the sound card like the Yaesu FT-450D
That I dont know
what do u if yur laptop only has one earphone jack
thank u Bruce N3VET
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I know this is an OLD video, but for newbies watching, you DO NOT have to buy a sound interface for digital modes, the PC itself has a sound card and they work just fine instead of going out and buying something you really do not need, BUT MAYBE YOU KNOW THIS BY NOW. Older rigs never had a sound card built in to demonstrate my point before these external cards came along, AND by the way you could have just used the "DATA" PLUG socket and wired it direct with 2 or 3 wires into your in/ out audio jacks on your PC. Maybe this will help someone on a very tight budget. Good video for beginners though. 73 de KD6SBR Tom in NV
I found this video to be incomplete and needs a lot more details. There was no mention on station control device or cable.
sorry
i have thr dc11f do i need a cat cable seems i do can you explain
I don't know what dc11f is, sorry.
@@learnelectronics its the cable that goes to the rig aand the lap top
Didn't know you were a HAM. I have watched your electronics video for some time.
cant find them any more
ok so to add to my post cant find that exact one but if you go to hamdapter store on ebay you can find them for all types of radios
yaesu cable dc 11 f do i need a cat cable also
Yes you do.
@@learnelectronics hooked up the rt sw cable it works now
SORRY FORGOT TO STATE IM USING A FT867D
SHOULD BE FT857
unfortunately when you click the link for the cable it says the ebay page no longer exists
As engineers I'm sure we could make this cable right? Unless there is some special stuff baked into the mouldings??? I think the pinout for the Yaesu FT 450D is published somewhere? I have also came to the same conclusion as you - that you can pick up some very nice 2nd hand gear cheap if you avoid the latest sexy SDR rigs. I opted for a FT-950 a little older than yours but very capable around the same price. I'll have to do the same as you for connections of CAT and audio in/out. There is also converters on eBay for about $40 that do it all...
Next stop: "Poor man's Pan adapter" using RTL-SDR connected to IF inside the radio, you might want to check that and do a video on it.
You sure could make it. The pinout is in the manual. These days I'd rather buy a cable though. I'm getting lazy as I get older.
just ordered mine kg6mn
Cool!
hope they do not screw it up
they got back with me ill be ok
Get a rigexpert ti3000.... Everithing else is frustraiting.
What can I say? 😐 Thanks for the video!
+1 for the free fart sounds as you move your camera!