Thanks for taking the time to check the pedals out! The pedal is an entirely analogue recreation, that includes the cab sim (2x15" for the '64 Black Panel and 8x10" for the Super Vintage). Analogue goodness from input to output, just like the real amps.
It would be nice if the Black Panel did have a 4x10 simulation as mistakenly mentioned in the video. I prefer Fender tube amps over Ampegs, but I'm not a fan of 15 inch speakers.
Same for me. I love both pedals and they are both great for what they are going after, but I'm kinda bored of the Ampeg vibe in general if I'm being honest, but that's probably mostly because I used a SansAmp for awhile which also has an Ampeg sound, and before that I had an Ampeg amp... which of course also has an Ampeg sound. So it's more just overexposure on my end, however the Fender feels more fresh, but still has a great classic vibe.
The low cut is just cutting the signal that is fed to the dry I think. So that the drive doesn’t thin out your sound as much so definitely useful if I’m interpreting it correctly
Would love to see @thatpedalshow try to put some guitar through these! Both through built in cab sims and maybe a hotone cab sim pedal? I play both instruments live so would make it an easy plug n play if it worked 🤓
Now if they could make versions of this pedal covering classic amps like the old Marshall Super Bass (as used by Lemmy of Motorhead) and HiWatt amplifiers (bonus points if they include a cab setting for a 4x12 Marshall with 1 f*ked speaker ala JJ Burnell of The Stranglers).
Try Master Effects - they have some cracking pedals covering a load of different amps (inc the SVT which is Better than this SVT one imo) also sushi box
Yep, I had a Fender Bassman in High School and it farted just like that at high volume. I hated that amp. I could not keep up with the guitarists.The pedal may have it's uses but the SVT pedal much more so. I already have the Ampeg SVP tube preamp so I have that sound covered live.
This is a great in-depth review, BUT I don't see the point of using two different basses, one for each. A comparison should at least have been made with basses of the same wood, IMO.
Absolutely and same hands same attack and line / range . Also , too often its many notes in bass lines as demos . Let it ring to hear attack decay and harmonic content. Been doing this globally about 50 years ( bass) . Other than that ? Great demo and thank you !
At the end of the day any review is going to be different how you play and the basses you play. It gives you a general idea of what to expect - but why not just test it in person? I think a scientific approach for a demo is a little much lol
I just did an A/B test and would say the Super Vintage has a much clearer high end, a touch more low end, and a more usable Drive knob. To my ear, the Black Panel sounds muddier by comparison, which might just be authentic to the amp it’s simulating. I’d say the Black Panel is perfect if you want a clean ‘60s sound, while the Super Vintage is more versatile for sitting your bass in a mix.
He was correct on the 1952 to 1953 Bassman it had 15" speaker, look at the 5B6 model TV front amp, in 1954 is when we saw the four 10" speaker model starting with the 5D6. Yes he flubbed the Showman which this based on aka 63 to 67 which why it has 2 x15 IR emulation. They were 85 watt amps with 4 6L6 power tubes and a vibrato ( Tremelo) , this pedal looks like it normal side of the amp only
I was more concerned about the fact that they had it 100% wet the whole time, and cut all of the actual cabinet tone out. Oof. Dry didn't mean "without the pedal". That's what the footswitch is for, I'm assuming.
@Funky Monk at around 6:50 he said it went to "blackface jobbie, which had the four 10" speakers" in '54. He's right about going to 4x10 but not blackface, those amps came way later in the early 60s.
A blackpanel fender amp made in 1954! Come on guys, this is basic info that you shouldn't be getting wrong. Obviously I'm not going to listen to someone who doesn't know the basics of what these pedals are about, so I had to switch off after a couple in minutes.
Thanks for taking the time to check the pedals out!
The pedal is an entirely analogue recreation, that includes the cab sim (2x15" for the '64 Black Panel and 8x10" for the Super Vintage). Analogue goodness from input to output, just like the real amps.
It would be nice if the Black Panel did have a 4x10 simulation as mistakenly mentioned in the video. I prefer Fender tube amps over Ampegs, but I'm not a fan of 15 inch speakers.
I've watched lots of videos on both pedals, and even though I want to love the Ampeg, it's the Fender that does it for me.
Same for me. I love both pedals and they are both great for what they are going after, but I'm kinda bored of the Ampeg vibe in general if I'm being honest, but that's probably mostly because I used a SansAmp for awhile which also has an Ampeg sound, and before that I had an Ampeg amp... which of course also has an Ampeg sound. So it's more just overexposure on my end, however the Fender feels more fresh, but still has a great classic vibe.
I agree!
I love how Nathan Play the bass very smoothly
Your new Sire is an absolute beauty. Congrats
The low cut is just cutting the signal that is fed to the dry I think. So that the drive doesn’t thin out your sound as much so definitely useful if I’m interpreting it correctly
How nice of you gents to match your shirts to your basses!
Brilliant jam at the start!
Fantastic sound. What's the signal pathway?
Would love to see @thatpedalshow try to put some guitar through these! Both through built in cab sims and maybe a hotone cab sim pedal? I play both instruments live so would make it an easy plug n play if it worked 🤓
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I want that black panel 😍
The cabsim is also analog btw..
Now if they could make versions of this pedal covering classic amps like the old Marshall Super Bass (as used by Lemmy of Motorhead) and HiWatt amplifiers (bonus points if they include a cab setting for a 4x12 Marshall with 1 f*ked speaker ala JJ Burnell of The Stranglers).
Didn't Bruce Foxton also use a Marshall Super Bass in The Jam? That was a good, bottley valve tone.
Include an Orange in there too and they'd basically be doing the Character series that Tech 21 mostly discontinued. It would be a great move for sure.
Try Master Effects - they have some cracking pedals covering a load of different amps (inc the SVT which is Better than this SVT one imo) also sushi box
Man these pedals sound good!
Good job as usual fellas.
Wow, it turns your bass signal into a snare drum!? Sick.
All jokes...thanks for the content as always!
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A Lee Voss signature V10? 🙌
Sounds great. One of these and tuner pedal is all I need. Maybe a Sansamp too. I'm all set.
a bass, cables, a poweramp and speakers would help too ;)
You guys rock! 🪨
Yep, I had a Fender Bassman in High School and it farted just like that at high volume. I hated that amp. I could not keep up with the guitarists.The pedal may have it's uses but the SVT pedal much more so. I already have the Ampeg SVP tube preamp so I have that sound covered live.
This is a great in-depth review, BUT I don't see the point of using two different basses, one for each. A comparison should at least have been made with basses of the same wood, IMO.
Absolutely…
Absolutely and same hands same attack and line / range . Also , too often its many notes in bass lines as demos . Let it ring to hear attack decay and harmonic content.
Been doing this globally about 50 years ( bass) .
Other than that ? Great demo and thank you !
Same line, same bass, same bassist. Just play a line and run it through a looper and it would be a much better comparison. But nobody does it
@@Rexpbass indeed.
At the end of the day any review is going to be different how you play and the basses you play. It gives you a general idea of what to expect - but why not just test it in person? I think a scientific approach for a demo is a little much lol
Cómo se llama el ritmo de la música?
That black Sire is very attractive. I don't understand why Sire is not offering the M2 colour scheme on every model.
Das rockt. 😀🎸👍👍👍🎸😀
They sound exactly the same.
I just did an A/B test and would say the Super Vintage has a much clearer high end, a touch more low end, and a more usable Drive knob. To my ear, the Black Panel sounds muddier by comparison, which might just be authentic to the amp it’s simulating. I’d say the Black Panel is perfect if you want a clean ‘60s sound, while the Super Vintage is more versatile for sitting your bass in a mix.
@@gigaha Went with the Geddy Lee SansAmp DI, instead.
That’s an ear problem. You probably think they sound the same bypassed as well
@@jansonrawlings8169 half blind musician here. I probably have a way better ear than you.
Jesus Nathan. That's not what Dry/wet blend means. You were trying to run it with only od the whole time.
Could he have gotten the info on the tweed Bassman more wrong? Is it April first? Is he trolling us? Wtf
He was correct on the 1952 to 1953 Bassman it had 15" speaker, look at the 5B6 model TV front amp, in 1954 is when we saw the four 10" speaker model starting with the 5D6. Yes he flubbed the Showman which this based on aka 63 to 67 which why it has 2 x15 IR emulation. They were 85 watt amps with 4 6L6 power tubes and a vibrato ( Tremelo) , this pedal looks like it normal side of the amp only
@Funky Monk I love old fender amps 62 super brown face and 64 Princeton are currently in my collection
Thanks Nat, really enjoyed your contribution. Loving the content on your channel by the way.
I was more concerned about the fact that they had it 100% wet the whole time, and cut all of the actual cabinet tone out. Oof.
Dry didn't mean "without the pedal". That's what the footswitch is for, I'm assuming.
@Funky Monk at around 6:50 he said it went to "blackface jobbie, which had the four 10" speakers" in '54. He's right about going to 4x10 but not blackface, those amps came way later in the early 60s.
A blackpanel fender amp made in 1954! Come on guys, this is basic info that you shouldn't be getting wrong.
Obviously I'm not going to listen to someone who doesn't know the basics of what these pedals are about, so I had to switch off after a couple in minutes.