KD was not the best it was always Steph. The reason why it wasn’t fare because Steph was the #1 best player on the world, KD was #2 and Bron was #3. Warriors had the 1 and 2 best. As a warrior fan I can say that was unfair
Laughable take by Skip saying Durant took the harder road by joining the warriors 🤣🤣. A team that was already a champion. I can make an argument that Steph took the harder road by allowing KD to shine and being unselfish.
Already a champ team coz kyrie got hurt, when the cavs went healthy they lost. Thats why they hired durant. Looked like kd saved them from another beating. They wont beat the cavs in full force without kd 🥱
@Cedrick Carson that’s one thing I can love and respect about the Warriors they make Basketball interesting because if you can build a top notch front office and get a great head coach you can win year in and year out I love it they all home grown talent except for Andrew Wiggins they so good superstars want to join em I can’t do anything but respect them for that no super teams just homegrown town
Everybody loves a hometown/homegrown hero. Steph was *drafted* to Golden State, the fans literally watched him grown to the legend he is now. They are familiar with his family, etc. KD came in from somewhere else. No matter how many championships KD helped the Warriors win, no matter how many MVPs he got, it was ALWAYS going to be Steph Curry's Team and that's not up for debate 🎯
You are correct damn still remember I saw him play my duke blue devils and I knew from that moment he was gone be amazing bc he shoot the ball so well and quick. Coach k literally had to start doubling him
Suspicious Afternoon man I can tell youna curry fanboy cheerleader Curry win his first ring against a injured Cavs team then los sonwhat same team healthy but yall live to gossip about KD in these Comments because y'all know He better
I agree he’s great but it isn’t just Steph. Warriors has a stacked team. Poole starts & balls in any other team, Wiggins is a monster, Looney as well, Klay could have a bad game but is still a good defender.. like come on
Damn the warriors have 2 rings right ? 😂 curry got 1 finals mvp and lebron got 4 😂 right don’t count curry rings as 4 if you don’t gonna count kd 2 because you look dumb without kd warriors not beating lebron
i always hear "would the warriors have won those two chips without kd?" from the media but never "would kd have won those two chips without gs?" gs could win without kd; not the other way around
@@josh_7569 It has been proven twice, plus one more time in 2016, that the Warriors could defeat the Cavaliers in 2017 and 2018 with an above average SF that can defend decently LeBron (until Iguodala and Draymond take turns)... you can't convince anyone that the Warriors wouldn't defeat LeBron with Jimmy Butler or Khris Middleton instead of Durant... they won a championship with Barnes and Wiggins... they can do it with anyone... Durant was just extremely overkill signing in the free agency that also eliminated "Durant" as a potential threat to another team...
Lol KD went to the Front office about changes. He didn't like the offense or the coach. No changes were made. It's a job at the end of the day. It was time to move on
@@YungChief lol he DEFINITELY voted democrat. He said he'd rather pay high prices for than have Trump in office cos "orange man bad". He got a lot of heat for that statement and rightfully so.
A day after Steph’s 4th championship and a total of 5 different types of MVPs and 2 scoring titles, Skip is still trying to discount his achievements and stick to his 2016 narrative🤦♂️. It’s WILD
@@minasty1 just jealous that a smaller person than him could be so good at basketball skip dresses like he's a sports superstar but he's never played any sport cause he'd get hurt to easy you could imagine hitting skip playing NFL he'd be screaming you tackled me to hard
KD won’t win another ring. He has two teammates that couldn’t care less about basketball. Kyrie only cares about Kyrie and we all know about Ben Simmons.
@@ianwilson4483 No they didnt, they just sold the last 3 games. Draymond got a sus ejection and Steph cringed. Tho I wouldve loved to see the same matchup in 17 and 18.
@@EdenZahard don’t forget Bogut got hurt in that fake draymond suspension game and curry had a sprained ankle and a sprained knee and iguadala couldn’t even stand up straight
If you take a look at LBJ career and KD almost run parallel to each other LBJ lost to Cs left Miami won 2 chips 2fmvp KD couldn't win in OKC joined GS won 2 chips 2fmvp so both needed hof players and great organization too win.
Kevin Durant was not the guy when he joined the Warriors. Steph Curry is the guy. The one who built the dynasty. Btw i am a Lebron fan. But i have to admit the greatness of Stephen Curry.
1 thing about KD at GSW. KD wás loved by GSW, except KD did not feel that love. It was'nt a láck of love for KD, it was KD lacking loving himself and therefor feeling the love radiating towards him!
Nah I think he was just projecting what he was receiving from outside of GSW onto GSW. The Golden state fans staff and players appreciated him. That’s why they went to get him on the team. Who didn’t want an all time great teammate. But the media and other fanbases drove a wedge into that.
@@russellstuff-her7017 the Nets have two guys that are straight up scorers. They can get you a bucket wherever, whenever. Basically your saying KD needs TWO other superstars to succeed.
@@russellstuff-her7017 I'm sorry. Did Kyrie play against the Celtics? I mean...Kyrie is only reason they almost won game 1. KD was awful and people need to stop making excuses for him. All this revisionist history b/c Golden State won the title.
Two things can be true: Kevin Durant was the best player in the 2017-18 Championship teams and deserved credit for what he accomplished. And it was the closest thing to a 1A/1B situation. The Warriors didn’t go after KD because they didn’t have enough to win a title, who do you think we’re the favorites as soon as they lost the Finals? They went after him because they could and they wanted to. Kevin Durant is one of the greatest players ever thag perfectly fit the system. If you can add a guy like him without breaking up your team and keeping good depth: you do it, no matter where you finished previously. This is why the discussions about Steph, Skip was creating even before this 2017-21 were so insulting. The way he discussed this guy you’d think he’s a regular season player who hasn’t broken through or had much Playoff success, while in reality, even before 2022, he was a 2x MVP, 3x Champion, had been to 5 straight NBA Finals, and had the sixth highest scoring average in the Finals ever. He was their best player in the 15, 16, and 19 Playoffs when they made those runs (KD was injured in 2019 and Steph averaged 37 to send them to the Finals). That’s a majority of that run including a title in that span. That’s why what he did in the 2022 Finals was not a surprise, it’s what I expected, because this is who he’s always been, since that 6 game series they lost to San Antonio in 2013.
Warriors Never NEEDED Durant. They WANTED Durant. Durant NEEDED the Warriors. Let’s Be Honest. Warriors just knew adding KD would just give them easy rings but they could’ve signed another all star and would’ve arguably got the same amount of rings. Maybe one less. But KD joined a superstar Team because he was tryna Chase #1 in the nba and was jealous of Lebron. Weakest ring chasing move in history and Most undeserved Rings by a superstar😂
Man Shannon killed it on that New Edition analogy. Johny Gill has more singing talent in his toe than Bobby Brown but Bobby a loved member of the NE heartbreak. I know K.D. started about 5 more burners by midnight
Wel, its simple - KD joined a great established team and won with them. You cannot escape that. If Lebron didnt win after his Heat chips, his legacy wouldnt be the same. Simple. Right now Curry is on a path to be undoubtedly a level higher than KD on the alltime list. And who knows he might be in the convo for top5.
kd has never been ahead of steph since he won his first chip, tf you on bro mans always had one more chip and one more mvp. now 2 more chips. dont compare kd joining a winning team to bron moving to heat, who were having early exits every year. kd is not that guy, hes great, not that great, just stop it
STEPH 4 TIME NBA CHAMPION DURANT 2 TIME NBA CHAMPION DURANT 2 TIME NBA FINALS MVP STEPH 1 TIME NBA FINALS MVP STEPH 2 TIME NBA REGULAR SEASON MVP DURANT 1 TIME NBA REGULAR SEASON MVP DURANT 12 TIME NBA ALL-STAR STEPH 8 TIME NBA ALL-STAR DURANT 2 TIME NBA ALL-STAR GAME MVP STEPH 1 TIME NBA ALL-STAR GAME MVP DURANT 6 TIME ALL NBA FIRST TEAM STEPH 4 TIME ALL NBA FIRST TEAM DURANT 2008 ROOKIE OF THE YEAR STEPH (NONE) DURANT & STEPH (TIED) 2008/2010 ALL ROOKIE FIRST TEAM STEPH 1 TIME NBA WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS MVP DURANT (NONE) STEPH 2 TIME NBA 3 POINT CONTEST CHAMPION DURANT (NONE) DURANT 4 TIME NBA SCORING CHAMPION STEPH 2 TIME NBA SCORING CHAMPION STEPH 1 TIME NBA STEALS LEADER DURANT (NONE) STEPH 1 TIME NBA COMMUNITY ASSIST AWARD WINNER DURANT (NONE) DURANT 1 TIME FIBA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP MVP STEPH (NONE) DURANT 3 TIME USA MALE ATHLETE OF THE YEAR STEPH (NONE) DURANT is the winner (8-6) But here are my small flaws for both DURANT an STEPH DURANT has no Defensive Awards STEPH has no USA Athlete of the Year Awards..
@@jada8047 bro steph has 4 rings and Durant choked a 3-1 lead to steph in 2016. The finals MVPs don’t mean nothing when ur on a juggernaut of a team lol. Steph legacy is better
It’s so simple on why they are so talented. Deep benches and players who are unselfish and role play. If that’s defense or just being a passer. They find ways to plug players into the right position. And the coaching staff has guys believing in him.
It's because their star player is lightskin. Adam silver wants a whitewashed NBA, that's why you saw two teams with light skin star players in the finals. They'll push it further and further as Luka develops and they'll make him the face of the league.
@@diddy-did-it Bro you alright ? You tweaking hard bro. That’s so far off from reality. They will go with anyone who’s making them the most money. Why do you think they kept lebron at the top for so long lol
@@keenannorris3309 I’ve been defending my favorite player KD even when Barkley was calling him a bus rider. When SAS said he made the weakest move in NBA history, when the warriors GM said KD joined the bandwagon, when KD blew a 3-1 lead to the warriors, but after watching KD play like a complete bum while getting swept against the Celtics that the warriors handled easily without him, I can no longer defend. Durfraud
KD melted down against Boston. Swept right out of the playoffs, Curry beats Boston for his 4th Chip. Curry never needed Durant. Durant knew he couldn't beat Curry in the playoffs and if somehow he did beat Curry. He knew he was going to play Lebron in the Finals and he would've lost then. So Durant joined Wardell Curry after he lost to Curry in the WCF. Curry came back down 3-1 to beat Durant. Curry is far better than Durant.
KD got to be the hero while Curry got doubled teamed every game. It’s easy to be the finals MVP when you are open for shots. We saw what happened when he was guarded like Steph in the finals, he got swept.
Even when you're tired, keep going. Even when you're lonely, keep going. Even when you feel like you can't go any further, keep going. It is in those moments where you gain the reason why you must keep going.🙏🏽💪🏽
How when he was up 3-1 against golden state with russ and he melted down right alongside Russ, it was his fault they lost to golden state in 2016 n it Russ and if anything it was 50/50 , go watch those games 5,6 and 7 KD just couldn’t make anything same shots he made when he had curry to take the pressure off him
Let’s not get it twisted golden state could of signed Paul George and still would of won those two finals. They could of traded for baby Brandon Ingram and still won like Steph and klay will make any athletic forward look like a god .
Steph can win the next 4 titles and Skip will still bring up his 2016 finals and will say KD saved him🤦🏻♂️. I don’t get how someone can hate on a player this much
I HATE IT when people say Durant was the better player over Steph curry when he joined the Warriors!! NO Shannon, Kevin Durant was not the better player over Curry!! Curry was always the BETTER PLAYER, he allowed Kevin Durant to shine by being unselfish, and causing the defense of other teams to gravitate to him more than any other player in the NBA, thus making it so much more easier for Durant to hit great shots!! And this is why Curry is getting all the Great things he has coming to him now, because he sold seeds of unselfishness!! It's a reason that the very team that swept Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving got beat by Steph Curry and the Warriors in the NBA Finals!! And there is more to come for Curry and the Warriors!!
Idk how people cement these new cats into the top 10 all time when they keep teaming up with other "potential all-time greats" to win chips. Rick Flair said "To be the man, you gotta beat the man" yet all these dudes wanna do is play with the man. No, KD ain't that, no LBJ ain't that. NO, not even KG, or PP. You keep teaming up with GREATS, it diminish what you do
Yea but nobody would respect rose rings cause they came the easy way. He did the right thing leaving trying to win it on another team. He really thought people was going to put him ahead of LeBron after those chips but that never happened. He was tired of being #2 to LeBron
Curry and the Warriors won Championships BEFORE, DURING, and AFTER Kevin Durant. Durant ended up being just the guy between Harrison Barnes and Andrew Wiggins.
@@TK-nc3ou Yes it was, he even shot better from 3 than KD in that series. But you probably don't know that like most NBA fans bc of the fake ESPN/Skip Bayless narrative that KD left OKC bc of Russ and that Russ was holding him back lol.
@@daviddavidson1412 they got many years together and were dysfunctional, terrible fit, their offense was horrific - my turn your turn all the time. The main play of RW to KD was to get him the ball 8m from the basket and stand in the corner. Its not about 1 series but years of dysfunction.
I just wanna say as a golden state fan that I (as well as most gs fans) accepted KD and loved KD, not as much as Steph, Klay, Dray, Iggy, and maybe even Loon, but he was still beloved by the fanbase for only being there 3 years. It was the noise of the general NBA fanbase that got him to leave, and it's his constant sneak dissing of the warriors since then that has kinda turned me and most of us off against him. Now, I still want him to succeed, just not against the warriors lol. Idk why he thought he could be more loved than the big 3 though in a place where we had already been rooting for them for 5+ years before he ever came onto the scene, not to mention being an enemy just the year before he joined. Idk what else he could have expected, because he got a lot from his short mercenary contract.
Nah if you was from the bay you a know a lot of people from ain’t except kd how we did steph klay an green an kd hated that that’s why he left cus he thought he could do better but was he wrong
okc loved kd, but more then anything he wanted a championship, well and of course west brook was there too. it was not a easy choice. don't forget that it was a power team over there in the east as well, i didn't like the decision at first but now its more fair, you don't know who's going to win, so in the end, i love that he is with the nets now..
The thing is KD was loved in OKC. The thunder also had an amazing GM. They could’ve swapped Westbrook if that’s what KD wanted, and got him another star player.
If you go back and watch OKC, every season it felt more and more like Russ’ team than KD. He got more and more passive. I stopped being a fan of okc once he left. Russ was way too selfish in 4th quarters. And KD didn’t demand respect enough.
Lmao sure Jan. A "healthy" Cavs went to 7 games with baby Warriors in 2016 where Steph, Bogut and Iggy were hurt , they'd get destroyed even without KD in between 2017-19.
@@abdoulayekourouma2582 I'm trying to say that when healthy and Lebron not crying to the Silver for suspending Draymond Warriors would win against Cavs everytime
KD’s snake move couldn’t look worse Lmao. He should have just stayed because later he would have gotten the credit and accepted as the winning continued later, him leaving Warriors winning again made it worse. KD left a great team and Lebron left an organization that couldn’t acquire players pure and simple. Nuff said. Worked vice versa they needed to win because everyone said they won last two cause of KD and injuries Cavs team.
Yeah, his choices were, attempt to be the greatest basketball player of all time, or win multiple championships, he would have more than 2 if he was still on the team, he would probably end up with as many rings as Jordan in his Career, instead its 1st round exits in the playoffs
I don't care what anyone says. Watching Golden State with KD win every single year isn't good product. Folks in 2022 with this take are simply flip flopping. Back in 2017, people were legitimately talking about the Warriors as a cheat code team that was ruining the league. KD left and we got a different champion every year.
At the time he needed KD because they were not as young as his teammates he has now...and to be honest he knew if they did not get KD there was a chance that they would lose again to the Cavs and they did not want that...remember both teams did not have these young ballers.
@@jeromerozier872 did KD win anything in the last 2 years? No right? So your point is what exactly? Steph got another chip... hold this real quick 🤲🏽 L
"..If you hang around with Superstars, Good Things Happen.." - Coach Steve Kerr. Well done Coach! Wiggins was surrounded by A gamers and Great Motivators coming from GSW. That's why Wiggins was able to make the best of his plays. You can just feel how He is so much comfortable playing with those guys. He was the perfect fit for this organization. Congratulations Andrew you are one of my Fave Players since Minnesota Days. I knew that someday you will be a great revelation and it did happen. SC just cemented himself as one of the GOAT which should have happened long time ago. All the Love from 🇵🇭 💚🤍💖
Why do people say that the warriors needed KD in order to beat LeBron?! No! They needed KD in order to make it impossible for LeBron to beat them! It was an amazing series in 2016 and the Cavs pulled one of the greatest upsets ever... Does that mean that the warriors couldn't beat them the next year?? After Miami barely beat the Spurs in 2013, did the Spurs need a KD in order to beat Miami the next year?
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Jayson Tatum had the worst nba finals ever for a potential "superstar" that I can remember my god
@@maharajaramzan4211 with no superstar ....i cant even call Brown a superstar brother !!! Smart and Hartford is not enuff !!!
KD was not the best it was always Steph. The reason why it wasn’t fare because Steph was the #1 best player on the world, KD was #2 and Bron was #3. Warriors had the 1 and 2 best. As a warrior fan I can say that was unfair
Dam y'all still talking KD??? Get over it
Where is the topic about lebron? F The warriors special moment. Boston in 4 next year.
Laughable take by Skip saying Durant took the harder road by joining the warriors 🤣🤣. A team that was already a champion. I can make an argument that Steph took the harder road by allowing KD to shine and being unselfish.
Love Skip but has to be a top 3 most delusional take from him
Also OKC was up 3-1 against GS and and Gs went 73-9 in 2016🤷♀️
Durant is the best player to never win a Chip in my opinion ..
Already a champ team coz kyrie got hurt, when the cavs went healthy they lost. Thats why they hired durant. Looked like kd saved them from another beating. They wont beat the cavs in full force without kd 🥱
@@realnsenpai would KD have even made it back to another finals if he had stayed in OKC?
The job the Warriors front office have done for almost a decade now is nothing short of phenomenal
Well said
Party isn't over yet. Young guns we got in stock are the future
@@zambot264 they can keep this for for many many years
@Cedrick Carson that’s one thing I can love and respect about the Warriors they make Basketball interesting because if you can build a top notch front office and get a great head coach you can win year in and year out I love it they all home grown talent except for Andrew Wiggins they so good superstars want to join em I can’t do anything but respect them for that no super teams just homegrown town
It’s San Francisco they got a bunch of 🌈 in front office
Everybody loves a hometown/homegrown hero. Steph was *drafted* to Golden State, the fans literally watched him grown to the legend he is now. They are familiar with his family, etc. KD came in from somewhere else. No matter how many championships KD helped the Warriors win, no matter how many MVPs he got, it was ALWAYS going to be Steph Curry's Team and that's not up for debate 🎯
The Babyface assain.
You are correct damn still remember I saw him play my duke blue devils and I knew from that moment he was gone be amazing bc he shoot the ball so well and quick. Coach k literally had to start doubling him
And just to think warriors fans didn’t even want Steph.. they wanted to keep monte Ellis 🤷🏾♂️ just saying
@@Maniamfresh that was forever ago 💀
Without kd the warriors would only have 2 rings and kd without the warriors would have no rings
won before KD, won with KD, won AFTER KD. Steph and the Warriors are fking clear
Suspicious Afternoon man I can tell youna curry fanboy cheerleader Curry win his first ring against a injured Cavs team then los sonwhat same team healthy but yall live to gossip about KD in these Comments because y'all know He better
@@darnellwilliams8783 Ever heard of a period?
@@darnellwilliams8783 he might be better but he ain’t the greater player that’s why he’s above KD in the goat conversation
@@dunkirito8308 he gets them every month badum tss
@@LYDD. steph not in goat convo but yea hes way higher than kd, without steph, kd would top 10to never wing a ring, steph is top 10 all time period
Congratulations to Warriors for the 4th chip. Appreciate the greatness that is Steph Curry.
Congrats to a top 10 player.
I'm goooood. They gon be alright if I don't congratulate em
They good. 😂
👏🏾👏🏾
He is not yet a top 10 player
I agree he’s great but it isn’t just Steph. Warriors has a stacked team. Poole starts & balls in any other team, Wiggins is a monster, Looney as well, Klay could have a bad game but is still a good defender.. like come on
The warriors won a title before KD, with KD, and after KD. That’s so wild 😳
Damn the warriors have 2 rings right ? 😂 curry got 1 finals mvp and lebron got 4 😂 right don’t count curry rings as 4 if you don’t gonna count kd 2 because you look dumb without kd warriors not beating lebron
“Before KD, after KD”. Interesting
@@cjt9264 What interesting with that its a fact
They used KD 🤣
And still winning more at this time
When Sharp said "they want Kobe coming in as a 17 year old and leaving as a 37 year old man with 3 kids"
That was such an underrated line.
LMAO I'm so happy Skip finally has nowhere to go. That 2016 finals was all he had on Steph and Steph finally put this dude in his place. Steph the 🐐
He’s not the goat calm down , Luke Walton is the real goat
like skip says he disappears like MAGIC in the 4th quarter!!!
@@sharkyshark6760 you’re crazy obviously the goat is Javale Mcgee
@@bryan123419 Exactly. Javale 4 life. Javale Rushmore.
@@bryan123419 nah fam yall casuals, goat debate is between caruso and white mamba
That New Edition analogy was on point!
FRFR
Always has the best analogies
Very accurate.
Great anology! Johnny Gill was absolutely the best singer in the group, but he wasn't Ralph Tresvant and he wasn't from Boston.
Shannon's the best! Lol
i always hear "would the warriors have won those two chips without kd?" from the media but never "would kd have won those two chips without gs?" gs could win without kd; not the other way around
Not against Bron with equal talent to compete against
@@josh_7569 It has been proven twice, plus one more time in 2016, that the Warriors could defeat the Cavaliers in 2017 and 2018 with an above average SF that can defend decently LeBron (until Iguodala and Draymond take turns)... you can't convince anyone that the Warriors wouldn't defeat LeBron with Jimmy Butler or Khris Middleton instead of Durant... they won a championship with Barnes and Wiggins... they can do it with anyone... Durant was just extremely overkill signing in the free agency that also eliminated "Durant" as a potential threat to another team...
@@josh_7569 bruh the cavs won 93-89 4-3… how could they not come back and win? From gsw standpoint
Skip is a HATER OF GOLDENSTATE WARRIORS
Exactly!
He had that love in Seattle/OKC but he decided to abandon them
As someone from Seattle, most fans didn’t hop on the okc bandwagon… they abandoned KD looooong ago
He never had that love in OKC. I love here, the fans loved Russ more than they loved him
Lol KD went to the Front office about changes. He didn't like the offense or the coach. No changes were made. It's a job at the end of the day. It was time to move on
thats a lie they was choosing russell over him he said this already
Nobody wants to live in Oklahoma, especially if they have the resources and options to leave 🤣
I absolutely LOVED the New Edition comparison Shannon!!!!!! 😂😂 and funny coincidence they’re from Boston lol.
"I didn't know gas prices were that high back then"
Shannon had me rolling when he said that 🤣
He probably voted democrat. Hes part of the problem
@@YungChief lol he DEFINITELY voted democrat. He said he'd rather pay high prices for than have Trump in office cos "orange man bad". He got a lot of heat for that statement and rightfully so.
The Warriors front office drafting players has been phenomenal they really have built a winning culture and team from the ground up
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Shannon is too clever for his own good. Even he had to smile at how good a comeback this was. 😂😂
A day after Steph’s 4th championship and a total of 5 different types of MVPs and 2 scoring titles, Skip is still trying to discount his achievements and stick to his 2016 narrative🤦♂️. It’s WILD
Skip: Steph never won an Olympic medal 🥇
@@blue-phoenix115 but he did though in 2015 or 2016 lol 😂
@@indiangawd2177 Curry has never played in the Olympic
I can’t respect this guy as an analyst he refuses to be wrong. He almost is like reality TV creating drama.
@@minasty1 just jealous that a smaller person than him could be so good at basketball skip dresses like he's a sports superstar but he's never played any sport cause he'd get hurt to easy you could imagine hitting skip playing NFL he'd be screaming you tackled me to hard
KD won’t win another ring. He has two teammates that couldn’t care less about basketball. Kyrie only cares about Kyrie and we all know about Ben Simmons.
never winning a ring
Ben Simmons o my cares about the fame
Same situation applies for LeBron
A-DNP cares about street clothes and GTA
Westbrick cares about dresses and bricklayering.
@@Terror832 what does this have to do about Lebron Lebron got a ring everywhere he went lakers got a ring cause of Lebron
Coming from a Knicks fan who is upset 7 and 11 both went to the wrong NY, thank you
That Johnny Gill/New Edition analogy was excellent 😂
KD was Bobby Brown 😳
@@jada8047 nope, he is Johny Gill, way more talent than Bobby but not as beloved
@@smoothe4216 lol
@@smoothe4216 exactly. KD was Johnny Gill and Steph was Ralph Tresvant.
The laws of Green: We won before you came. We won after you left. You can’t win without us.
Skip argument is lame. The warriors were stacked from top to bottom when KD went there.
They needed someone to match up with LeBron. KD was that someone.
@@ianwilson4483 No they didnt, they just sold the last 3 games. Draymond got a sus ejection and Steph cringed. Tho I wouldve loved to see the same matchup in 17 and 18.
@@EdenZahard don’t forget Bogut got hurt in that fake draymond suspension game and curry had a sprained ankle and a sprained knee and iguadala couldn’t even stand up straight
@@philmccracken179 fax
If you take a look at LBJ career and KD almost run parallel to each other LBJ lost to Cs left Miami won 2 chips 2fmvp KD couldn't win in OKC joined GS won 2 chips 2fmvp so both needed hof players and great organization too win.
Kevin Durant was not the guy when he joined the Warriors. Steph Curry is the guy. The one who built the dynasty. Btw i am a Lebron fan. But i have to admit the greatness of Stephen Curry.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love Shannon Sharpe he hilarious
8:37 🤣🤣
SUPER
I can respect this Ws championship more than the others big time. Steph proved himself and is good to see they didn't need KD to win.
True but we always knew that which is why him going there was so trash.
They proved they didn't need KD to win a championship in 2015
@@danielcaughlan8188 the year they faced no starting point guards in the west.....lmfao
@@m.m9936 exactly, it was just to make them so good they couldn’t lose. They prob could have won without him but would have been closer competition
Lebron James owns Golden state without KD
The Mount Rushmore of 3pt shooters is Steph Curry four times
Klay on there at least once lol.. I’d take klay over steph but ima fan of klay
@@davidruffin1823 you’d take klay over Steph from 3🤨
The best 3 point shooter of all time is Larry Bird.
Steph Ray Reggie Klay
@@aruncutting5583 yessir I’m takin klay
I would pay to see Kevin Durant vs Stephen Curry in a NBA finals it would be the most viewed finals ever.
That would of happened in 2021 if Klay didn't get re injured an Kyrie got injured
The nets aren’t gonna make the finals with this roster
@@AG30 agree.. KD never making the finals again
My fantasy final match this year was Warriors vs Nets but it didn’t happen 🤣.
KD will never get to the vinals. Dude a Skinny anorexic twig.
Why are we still talking about KD. Damn just give Steph his praise…
Free real estate
Skip making fun of Draymond calling KD like he didn’t cry in the parking lot begging Stephen A to join First Take..
Nah he beg Shannon to pin him on undisputed 😂
He didn’t tho
@@calvincalvin3132 he did
SAS just accidentally unleashed a hell's worth of jokes on Skip with that story lmao.
1 thing about KD at GSW. KD wás loved by GSW, except KD did not feel that love. It was'nt a láck of love for KD, it was KD lacking loving himself and therefor feeling the love radiating towards him!
YOU KNOW WHAT.... I THINK YOU JUST MAY BE EXACTLY RIGHT 💯
GREAT OBSERVATION 👍🏿
@@dahusla4328 this is such a wholesome response
@@BoBnfishy LOL... WHOLESOME... I WOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT! BUT THANKS...! I THINK! 😁
Nah I think he was just projecting what he was receiving from outside of GSW onto GSW. The Golden state fans staff and players appreciated him. That’s why they went to get him on the team. Who didn’t want an all time great teammate. But the media and other fanbases drove a wedge into that.
Maybe he's just a bona-fide old ball as most would agree.. BOTTIMLINE
That New Edition/Johnny Gill analogy was a-1...iykyk.
On bro 🤣🤣
That new edition comparison was golden
Skip at the beginning of the show: "The Celtics are FRAUDS
Skip here: "It's not KD's fault he couldn't beat the Celtics"
The duality of a hypocrite
How.... both can be true... 1 v 5... KD not gon beat any squad solo... not even the local AAU team
@@russellstuff-her7017 exactly.
@@russellstuff-her7017 the Nets have two guys that are straight up scorers. They can get you a bucket wherever, whenever. Basically your saying KD needs TWO other superstars to succeed.
@@trevorburton3290 Nah. It’s actually more of what YOU are saying lol.
@@russellstuff-her7017 I'm sorry. Did Kyrie play against the Celtics? I mean...Kyrie is only reason they almost won game 1. KD was awful and people need to stop making excuses for him. All this revisionist history b/c Golden State won the title.
Poor KD he’s crying at home when he saw Curry winning the chip. And kyrie is laughing
I think you should be the one that’s crying since ur team lost yo them kd fine 2 rings and 2FMVP
@@fredrickjudkins8096 handing KD a sweep in the series sure stings
@@fredrickjudkins8096 what has KD done after leaving GS tell me that bro
Boston is trash
It doesn't even seem like KD or Kyrie care about winning championships anymore
Two things can be true: Kevin Durant was the best player in the 2017-18 Championship teams and deserved credit for what he accomplished. And it was the closest thing to a 1A/1B situation.
The Warriors didn’t go after KD because they didn’t have enough to win a title, who do you think we’re the favorites as soon as they lost the Finals? They went after him because they could and they wanted to. Kevin Durant is one of the greatest players ever thag perfectly fit the system. If you can add a guy like him without breaking up your team and keeping good depth: you do it, no matter where you finished previously.
This is why the discussions about Steph, Skip was creating even before this 2017-21 were so insulting. The way he discussed this guy you’d think he’s a regular season player who hasn’t broken through or had much Playoff success, while in reality, even before 2022, he was a 2x MVP, 3x Champion, had been to 5 straight NBA Finals, and had the sixth highest scoring average in the Finals ever. He was their best player in the 15, 16, and 19 Playoffs when they made those runs (KD was injured in 2019 and Steph averaged 37 to send them to the Finals). That’s a majority of that run including a title in that span.
That’s why what he did in the 2022 Finals was not a surprise, it’s what I expected, because this is who he’s always been, since that 6 game series they lost to San Antonio in 2013.
Warriors Never NEEDED Durant. They WANTED Durant. Durant NEEDED the Warriors. Let’s Be Honest. Warriors just knew adding KD would just give them easy rings but they could’ve signed another all star and would’ve arguably got the same amount of rings. Maybe one less. But KD joined a superstar Team because he was tryna Chase #1 in the nba and was jealous of Lebron. Weakest ring chasing move in history and Most undeserved Rings by a superstar😂
Honestly, we will not know this until the warriors face a healthy LeBron team again.
They don’t beat the cavs 2017 without kd, 2018 maybe
@@asdf12348685 is lebron the same guy he was in 2017-2018 tho??
Recency bias is crazy. They needed each other
Bruh they needed kd to repeat so stop that dumbshit
He didn’t grow up in Boston like Ronnie, Bobby, Ricky and Mike😂😂😂
🎤🎶 THE HEEEAT IS ON 🎤🎶
Uncle sharp the goat
Don’t forget about Ralph Tresvant.
Man Shannon killed it on that New Edition analogy. Johny Gill has more singing talent in his toe than Bobby Brown but Bobby a loved member of the NE heartbreak. I know K.D. started about 5 more burners by midnight
I was hoping someone commented on that. It was the perfect analogy to explain it. He killed that appreciate you for stating it
Johnny Gill was more accepted by NE than KD was at Golden State by far
You smoked almost as much as Bobby to believe this 🤣
Man said KD took the “Hard Road” joining the warriors WTF is skip on?
he a hater
I almost spit out my drink when he said "Just like New Edition" 😂
7:00 even Skip knows he was cappin 😂😂🤣🤣
Wel, its simple - KD joined a great established team and won with them. You cannot escape that. If Lebron didnt win after his Heat chips, his legacy wouldnt be the same. Simple. Right now Curry is on a path to be undoubtedly a level higher than KD on the alltime list. And who knows he might be in the convo for top5.
He’s already higher than KD. The only thing people hold onto is KD is “better” than Steph. Resume is better period.
kd has never been ahead of steph since he won his first chip, tf you on bro mans always had one more chip and one more mvp. now 2 more chips. dont compare kd joining a winning team to bron moving to heat, who were having early exits every year. kd is not that guy, hes great, not that great, just stop it
Curry is better than both of them, he has loyalty
STEPH
4 TIME NBA CHAMPION
DURANT
2 TIME NBA CHAMPION
DURANT
2 TIME NBA FINALS MVP
STEPH
1 TIME NBA FINALS MVP
STEPH
2 TIME NBA REGULAR SEASON
MVP
DURANT
1 TIME NBA REGULAR SEASON
MVP
DURANT
12 TIME NBA ALL-STAR
STEPH
8 TIME NBA ALL-STAR
DURANT
2 TIME NBA ALL-STAR GAME MVP
STEPH
1 TIME NBA ALL-STAR GAME MVP
DURANT
6 TIME ALL NBA FIRST TEAM
STEPH
4 TIME ALL NBA FIRST TEAM
DURANT
2008 ROOKIE OF THE YEAR
STEPH
(NONE)
DURANT & STEPH (TIED)
2008/2010
ALL ROOKIE FIRST TEAM
STEPH
1 TIME NBA WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS MVP
DURANT
(NONE)
STEPH
2 TIME NBA 3 POINT CONTEST CHAMPION
DURANT
(NONE)
DURANT
4 TIME NBA SCORING CHAMPION
STEPH
2 TIME NBA SCORING CHAMPION
STEPH
1 TIME NBA STEALS LEADER
DURANT
(NONE)
STEPH
1 TIME NBA COMMUNITY ASSIST AWARD WINNER
DURANT
(NONE)
DURANT
1 TIME FIBA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP MVP
STEPH
(NONE)
DURANT
3 TIME USA MALE ATHLETE OF THE YEAR
STEPH
(NONE)
DURANT is the winner (8-6)
But here are my small flaws for both DURANT an STEPH
DURANT has no Defensive Awards
STEPH has no USA Athlete of the Year Awards..
@@jada8047 bro steph has 4 rings and Durant choked a 3-1 lead to steph in 2016. The finals MVPs don’t mean nothing when ur on a juggernaut of a team lol. Steph legacy is better
Warriors saved KD's legacy. *PERIOD.*
This era has always been LeBron and now Steph.
Lakers Should Strongly consider trading LeBron-SAS
It’s so simple on why they are so talented.
Deep benches and players who are unselfish and role play.
If that’s defense or just being a passer.
They find ways to plug players into the right position.
And the coaching staff has guys believing in him.
It's because their star player is lightskin. Adam silver wants a whitewashed NBA, that's why you saw two teams with light skin star players in the finals. They'll push it further and further as Luka develops and they'll make him the face of the league.
@@diddy-did-it Bro you alright ?
You tweaking hard bro.
That’s so far off from reality.
They will go with anyone who’s making them the most money.
Why do you think they kept lebron at the top for so long lol
KD’s legacy is in shambles 😢
Says who you? 😂😂
That's wack. KD has an MVP, 2 Finals MVPs and 4 scoring titles.
Fk u on? Looolz
@@lovelyminx6444 no, says Draymond. “YOU'RE
A B*TCH & YOU KNOW YOU'RE A B*TCH...
WE DON’T NEED YOU! WE WON WITHOUT
YOU! LEAVE!
@@keenannorris3309 I’ve been defending my favorite player KD even when Barkley was calling him a bus rider. When SAS said he made the weakest move in NBA history, when the warriors GM said KD joined the bandwagon, when KD blew a 3-1 lead to the warriors, but after watching KD play like a complete bum while getting swept against the Celtics that the warriors handled easily without him, I can no longer defend. Durfraud
KD melted down against Boston. Swept right out of the playoffs, Curry beats Boston for his 4th Chip. Curry never needed Durant. Durant knew he couldn't beat Curry in the playoffs and if somehow he did beat Curry. He knew he was going to play Lebron in the Finals and he would've lost then. So Durant joined Wardell Curry after he lost to Curry in the WCF. Curry came back down 3-1 to beat Durant. Curry is far better than Durant.
KD got to be the hero while Curry got doubled teamed every game. It’s easy to be the finals MVP when you are open for shots. We saw what happened when he was guarded like Steph in the finals, he got swept.
Even when you're tired, keep going. Even when you're lonely, keep going. Even when you feel like you can't go any further, keep going. It is in those moments where you gain the reason why you must keep going.🙏🏽💪🏽
Folks better stop acting like he wasn’t a champion before KD showed up 😤 🏀 🔥
WHAT THEY GONE SAY NOW?!
No way he said KD had the hardest road joining a 73-9 team who won before him…
Kd stuck with a guy that played 100 something games in three years most of time had nothing do with injury
Flat earth guy
johnny gill somewhere like.. 😳
🤣
To KD's credit, going to join Curry and the Warriors was probably not the best decision, but staying with Westbrook was worse.
He won two chips. How was it not a good decision?
@@brucemichaelgrossman4913 Good in the sense that yes, he got 2 rings. But the value of these rings are considered weak.
KD should have stayed
not the best for his legacy but it was a good decision for the ships
How when he was up 3-1 against golden state with russ and he melted down right alongside Russ, it was his fault they lost to golden state in 2016 n it Russ and if anything it was 50/50 , go watch those games 5,6 and 7 KD just couldn’t make anything same shots he made when he had curry to take the pressure off him
Not the Johnny Gill analogy 😂😂
-He never should've left Curry!-
*He Never Should've Joined Curry In The 1st Place!*
Tristan, how did you put that line through your sentence?
That is true. KD just looks dumb now. And he got swept by the same team the warriors beat 😬not a good look
@@lakersin556 You put a dash - before and after the words you want without spaces
-testing-
when skip said:"never beloved" it sounded like an ad lib hahah, then later "fact" "fact" sounding like the migos hahahahaj
PERFECT analogy by Shannon here 2:30
KD & Luka would be crazy 🤪
kd is done, luka and giannis, now thats a formula for a dynasty
Nope, Luka is a Russell Westbrook in the making.
@@DonaldSeymourjr casual 😂😂😂
Let’s not get it twisted golden state could of signed Paul George and still would of won those two finals. They could of traded for baby Brandon Ingram and still won like Steph and klay will make any athletic forward look like a god .
BI in GS would’ve been TOOOO CRAZYYY😳
Not Steph and Klay...Steph and Dray tho and Klay 3rd
If You think that’s crazy just remember they was one spot away from getting Anthony edwards
Brandon Ingram is nice but that is crazy, he was drafted in 2016. A guy 2 years in is going head to head with Lebron In the finals like KD did ?
🎯
Steph can win the next 4 titles and Skip will still bring up his 2016 finals and will say KD saved him🤦🏻♂️. I don’t get how someone can hate on a player this much
"I didn't gas prices were high back then, he should have filled up" 😂😂😂
I HATE IT when people say Durant was the better player over Steph curry when he joined the Warriors!! NO Shannon, Kevin Durant was not the better player over Curry!! Curry was always the BETTER PLAYER, he allowed Kevin Durant to shine by being unselfish, and causing the defense of other teams to gravitate to him more than any other player in the NBA, thus making it so much more easier for Durant to hit great shots!! And this is why Curry is getting all the Great things he has coming to him now, because he sold seeds of unselfishness!! It's a reason that the very team that swept Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving got beat by Steph Curry and the Warriors in the NBA Finals!! And there is more to come for Curry and the Warriors!!
Well said my friend…..💯👏🏾👏🏾
Best of the era
1)Bron
2)Curry
3)KD
Curry is not better than KD
@@leonmoore9427 shows what you know :P
giannis coming for no.3 btw
@@wisdomelue You're not wrong
@@pewpewpandas9203 Durant is an elite defender when he chooses, Curry is barely average on defense there’s 2 sides to a basketball but I guess
Last few minutes of the back and forth between skip and Shannon was golden unc has really polished up his skills
Really enjoyed this Chemistry between this two all season long cool amazing show🏀🏆👍
Ronnie Bobby Ricky and Mike line was to funny!
Shannon with an absolute bomb New Edition refrence there.....well played shae!
The way Skip was so quick to agree to with Shannon’s point as soon as he mentioned something diminishing LeBron 🤣
2:29
I think KD lowkey regrets leaving GSW, he would have had 3-4 chips by now cementing him into the top 10 all time ‼️💯
Nope....people would still discredit those rings. He was in a no win situation
He should regret it because of his current situation
Idk how people cement these new cats into the top 10 all time when they keep teaming up with other "potential all-time greats" to win chips. Rick Flair said "To be the man, you gotta beat the man" yet all these dudes wanna do is play with the man. No, KD ain't that, no LBJ ain't that. NO, not even KG, or PP. You keep teaming up with GREATS, it diminish what you do
@@asdf12348685 now yes in 20 years no one cares
Yea but nobody would respect rose rings cause they came the easy way. He did the right thing leaving trying to win it on another team. He really thought people was going to put him ahead of LeBron after those chips but that never happened. He was tired of being #2 to LeBron
You can tell Skip and Shannon really love each other sincerely
Talk that talk Sharp. 👏👏💯
Curry and the Warriors won Championships BEFORE, DURING, and AFTER Kevin Durant. Durant ended up being just the guy between Harrison Barnes and Andrew Wiggins.
With each passing year the OKC era of KD RW and JH look more and more like a great dissapointment
they “too young” according to skip but like shannon mentioned, they were older than this Celtics team 🤣
Injuries got in the way after they made the finals. Then KD choked in 2016.
@@daviddavidson1412 yes, RW style of play was optimal and KD choked. Lol
@@TK-nc3ou Yes it was, he even shot better from 3 than KD in that series. But you probably don't know that like most NBA fans bc of the fake ESPN/Skip Bayless narrative that KD left OKC bc of Russ and that Russ was holding him back lol.
@@daviddavidson1412 they got many years together and were dysfunctional, terrible fit, their offense was horrific - my turn your turn all the time. The main play of RW to KD was to get him the ball 8m from the basket and stand in the corner. Its not about 1 series but years of dysfunction.
7:00 😂Skip himself knew that was cap af! Look at him grinning 😂
Kd gets credit for going to Cali and curry gets an asterisk for it lol
I just wanna say as a golden state fan that I (as well as most gs fans) accepted KD and loved KD, not as much as Steph, Klay, Dray, Iggy, and maybe even Loon, but he was still beloved by the fanbase for only being there 3 years. It was the noise of the general NBA fanbase that got him to leave, and it's his constant sneak dissing of the warriors since then that has kinda turned me and most of us off against him. Now, I still want him to succeed, just not against the warriors lol. Idk why he thought he could be more loved than the big 3 though in a place where we had already been rooting for them for 5+ years before he ever came onto the scene, not to mention being an enemy just the year before he joined. Idk what else he could have expected, because he got a lot from his short mercenary contract.
Nah if you was from the bay you a know a lot of people from ain’t except kd how we did steph klay an green an kd hated that that’s why he left cus he thought he could do better but was he wrong
@@862jay why would he stay after what the owner said and dray? They basically used each other he was never going to stay in gs
Shannon be killing me 😂😂
okc loved kd, but more then anything he wanted a championship, well and of course west brook was there too. it was not a easy choice. don't forget that it was a power team over there in the east as well, i didn't like the decision at first but now its more fair, you don't know who's going to win, so in the end, i love that he is with the nets now..
The thing is KD was loved in OKC. The thunder also had an amazing GM. They could’ve swapped Westbrook if that’s what KD wanted, and got him another star player.
They couldve traded James Harden to the Warriors for Klay Thompson but OKC refused imagine KD with Westbrook and Klay
Nah they wouldn’t have traded Russ lol. They would’ve kept them both as long as possible, until one of decided to leave
If you go back and watch OKC, every season it felt more and more like Russ’ team than KD. He got more and more passive. I stopped being a fan of okc once he left. Russ was way too selfish in 4th quarters. And KD didn’t demand respect enough.
0:19
KD needed championships
Warriors want *more* championships
Shannon: “they had totally different reasons”
🤣
9:58 lmfaooooooo “I ain’t know gas prices was high back then”
They needed kd to beat Bron but they don’t wanna talk about that 🤷🏿♂️
Lmao sure Jan. A "healthy" Cavs went to 7 games with baby Warriors in 2016 where Steph, Bogut and Iggy were hurt , they'd get destroyed even without KD in between 2017-19.
@@doctorsam5771 what are you exactly trying to say here ??
@@abdoulayekourouma2582 I'm trying to say that when healthy and Lebron not crying to the Silver for suspending Draymond Warriors would win against Cavs everytime
@@doctorsam5771 bruh that doesn’t matter with a healthy Bron and kyrie I believe that they would’ve beat the warriors
@@doctorsam5771 they begged kd to come so they would know for sure they would beat the cavs.
People seem to forget they got KD partly because how awful Barnes was. If Barnes gave them anything they win in 16
Yet they still won with him
I've been saying this
Barnes went to Dallas for money and has been irrelevant since
I only watch to hear Shannan.
That new edition analogy was 🔥
KD’s snake move couldn’t look worse Lmao. He should have just stayed because later he would have gotten the credit and accepted as the winning continued later, him leaving Warriors winning again made it worse. KD left a great team and Lebron left an organization that couldn’t acquire players pure and simple. Nuff said. Worked vice versa they needed to win because everyone said they won last two cause of KD and injuries Cavs team.
Yeah, his choices were, attempt to be the greatest basketball player of all time, or win multiple championships, he would have more than 2 if he was still on the team, he would probably end up with as many rings as Jordan in his Career, instead its 1st round exits in the playoffs
I don't care what anyone says. Watching Golden State with KD win every single year isn't good product. Folks in 2022 with this take are simply flip flopping. Back in 2017, people were legitimately talking about the Warriors as a cheat code team that was ruining the league. KD left and we got a different champion every year.
Here we are talking about whether or not steph needed KD to win even though he has won another one after KD and KD can't even get out the first round
At the time he needed KD because they were not as young as his teammates he has now...and to be honest he knew if they did not get KD there was a chance that they would lose again to the Cavs and they did not want that...remember both teams did not have these young ballers.
KD has been out of the first round without Steph.
@@ianwilson4483 I'm talking about this year bud
@@tillison23459 …. So it’s just this year , we gonna overlook the last 2 years to make ur comment relevant
@@jeromerozier872 did KD win anything in the last 2 years? No right? So your point is what exactly? Steph got another chip... hold this real quick 🤲🏽 L
Skip: "Never belooooved" 😂
KD folded in OKC during 2016 playoffs. Skip trying to throw Russ under the bus all the time is ridiculous
I didn't know gas was that high back then 😂
Shannon don’t miss 🤣🤣🤣
Jenny Taft made this show a “big 3”.
Now it’s just skip and Shannon 🤣🤦🏾♂️
I do miss Jenny alot more than I thought I would ngl
@@SuperfanK is she coming back?
I remember 2016 and 2017 . I remember it that year well for many reasons
sir charles barkley was right afterall when he said durant was a bus rider in golden state. 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Skip saying “Fact” is ghetto to me 😭
"..If you hang around with Superstars, Good Things Happen.." - Coach Steve Kerr. Well done Coach! Wiggins was surrounded by A gamers and Great Motivators coming from GSW. That's why Wiggins was able to make the best of his plays. You can just feel how He is so much comfortable playing with those guys. He was the perfect fit for this organization. Congratulations Andrew you are one of my Fave Players since Minnesota Days. I knew that someday you will be a great revelation and it did happen. SC just cemented himself as one of the GOAT which should have happened long time ago. All the Love from 🇵🇭 💚🤍💖
Why do people say that the warriors needed KD in order to beat LeBron?! No! They needed KD in order to make it impossible for LeBron to beat them!
It was an amazing series in 2016 and the Cavs pulled one of the greatest upsets ever... Does that mean that the warriors couldn't beat them the next year??
After Miami barely beat the Spurs in 2013, did the Spurs need a KD in order to beat Miami the next year?
This is exactly why KD was rooting for Boston to win. 😂