I have some of my own theories. Here how mine compare to your Munitions Theory: 1. I suspect one of the Halls being behind the disasters of Henry and Geffory. 2. I suspect one of the austerities will die but I don't know who. Though it will most likely be Sheffield as Peckect (sorry for the misspell) is a different design, Glenn isn't on Sodor, and Smantha is shown to be alive as she appears alongside Reginald during what seems to be the memorial service after the Fallout. 3. I suspect that Thomas gets caught in an explosion like Ten Cents did in the TUGS episode, but survives, as does Whiff. 4. Benson, I suspect he gets killed as they show a scrap remains of a B17, and that he'll possibly be in Big Mickey's place. 5. I'm hoping Peter doesn't die because he's my favorite character. 6. I'm hoping that the Hall responsible dies, as prison wouldn't be fair after what he's done, whether he gets blown up in the disaster, or sentenced to the death penalty. 7. Although I said Benson might die in Big Mickey's place, by like you, I suspect Mickey (Edward's Brother) will die. 8. As guessed by others about Donald possibly dying, I disagree because he's part of the main cast, and if he died, surely Wilbert wouldn't have continued writing stories with him in them if that were the case. Note* The diesel in Sheffield's place is Owen, not Bear.
I'm afraid there's a slight issue with theory number six, under British and European law the death penalty is not a thing, The worst punishment you can get in great britain, never mind all of europe, is life in prison.
I find it weird how everyone is talking about Thomas possibly dying. Percy wasn't seen with the engines in the Fallout scene where a majority are present. What does that mean for him, huh?
7:17 Closer inspection and I can say that the "scrap K2" is not a K2 at all. It looks more like a scrap reskin of James' model which I can tell since it has a cutaway cab (Mickey, like Edward, has a windowed cab) and the fact it has a Fowler tender means nothing really despite James also has this tender. We saw in the episode "Rescue" with all the scrap engines so some of the engines were just scrap models of the existing characters, which could mean that most of the engines seen at the end of the Season 5 trailer are just withdrawn faceless engines to fill in the background.
if mickey does die im going to be devistated. and if he does die i probably have a good idea on how he might die. considering that benson s bluenose and bluenose broke down during the munitions disaster in munitions, i assume the same would happen to benson, and mickey would sacrafice himself to save him.
In the shot at 1:13 Derek is present as the disaster, but Mickey isn't which is weird because you'd think both Fire and Rescue engines would be present at the scene to put out the fire before it spreads. It is possible that Mickey did show up to fight the fire, but he dies in the process.
Ok so I just remembered something that victor posted awhile ago, he said he was dealing with some writers block and needed help from us views I myself made a suggestion that hank come to the island with a rail tour (sadly I don’t think he’s gonna do that) but either way basically some people probably suggested that some characters die and despite past dialogue… I mean just think about it
Something else to note, at least I think it shoud be noted, is that Mr Hall (or the model used for him anyway) appears at end of the SCP's of Sodor episode "A Troublesome Engine" where he and other cultists bring Johnny Cuba to life.
I do believe that Mickey will likely bite the dust as it does look likely also I do think Benson will die and that Thomas will be in critical condition as in Munitions Tencents had to move a tanker out of the docks that caught fire ans he was damaged after that so Thomas will likely do something similar and he'll be in the works which would explain why we see many engines including Annie and Clarabel outside of the works, I also have a feeling that Mr Zorro will go this season as he'd be old by now and the last time Edward said that "Not all of us would live to see it's end" Mr Starr died during the war so we might be saying good bye to Mr Zorro
I have thought about it a bit and I think the reason Rob is seen at the sites at the ends of the episodes is because he and his brother were planning an attack in a fit of rage after being abused by their uncle and while Rob wasn’t taking this seriously, he is beginning to realise his brother is following the plan they made back then and he hasn’t said anything yet because he has thought it was a coincidence at this stage but he is maybe starting to realise it now
I actually believe everyone who doesn't appear in the Intro is going to die, but I was wrong with Geoffrey, even so he was replaced after his final episode in it. But I'm not sure at all right now if my theory could be right
Coming from the latest episode, revenge. Peter DIES. But from a german, not a Hall. Maybe? IDK maybe they both have some connection. That's theory for ya! Also, the Hall family tree, as you predicted, has been revealed. You are correct my friend.
If mickey goes i see harvey/stanley taking his place. If peter goes I see murdoch taking his spot Shefield i see rosie taking his spot We don't need another benson.
@@keithharrissuwignjo2460He's talking about the Wildnorwester character who is the Works Diesel from "James and the Diesel Engines". SiF's Extended Railway Series names him "Wendell", while in the series me and my boys are working on, Sodor: The True Stories, the Works Diesel is female and named Taylor.
Little late but out of the 4 engines who will bite it I’m saying Benson. Why you may ask? Well in Victors short “remembrance” the only one of the 4 that’s not there is Benson and knowing his work it would be unbelievable for him not to be there, but that’s saying he’s still alive. And we know that short takes place only a few years ago from Edward’s speech…
Peter cannot die. In SCPs of Sodor Edward said in “A troublesome engine” “Would you believe if I never thought to ask Peter if he ever saw him until just NOW”. This scene takes place in 2015 so he won’t die.
In the episode “secrets” as we all know, Edward says Sheffield still works on the railway to modern day, HOWEVER I haven’t seen anyone say this, but SAMANTHA might the the engine in the scrap line, what’s her story line? Has it finished, as we all know, in episode 2 of season 5, Geoffrey is replaced
Edit to this: Samantha is actually next to Reginald in the funeral, which rules her out, but it said that the heart ships were bad, so who is an engine, Reginald, Edward, Henry, Gordon, Samantha, S&M engines, and that group were friends or close with? I’m not sure, but it gives some fuel to theory’s
I don’t actually think that Sheffield will snuff it. I believe in the episode “Secrets”, Edward say that, to this day he remains a firm friend. Correct if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure that’s Sheffield.
@@Alex3BigEngines3Bigengines it can't be Samantha as she's shown with the other engines at the funeral seen but it can't be Sheffield because in secrets he's mention to still be on sodor to present day.
There is one mistake on the scp of sodor with the Alan one: victor said Peter will never see Alan since he was dead, but both 8f’s are dead now so they r in train heaven
If Sheffield Dies, Here’s a story idea: Title: Depression Samantha feels depressed over the loss of her brother and this unfortunatlly causes her to not focus on her work. Because of this, her and James are involved in a huge accident, several trucks are destroyed, the 2 engines are badly damaged and many people were injured. At the works Mickey (If he doesn’t die) asked Sam what caused her to crash and she says it’s because of her depression and then the two engines have a therapy session which lasts about 5 minutes. It ends with Sam overcoming her desprresion and one night while pulling a train she witnesses Sheffield’s ghost and that’s how it ends. Thoughts?
wait, the scps of sodors, the F8 that died was a different one because it didn't have a 15 on its tender, plus brian said that he met a F8 that sounded exactly like peter, and during the death of "peter" the actual peter was in jail until the end of WW2 for 15 years and the death of "peter" was between peters jail time.
I doubt Shefield is going to die. From the season 4 episode "secret", Edward says that Shefield continues to work on the railway until modern day. Nice theory though.
The scrap engines are not a bad theory I must say. Though I have problem's with Victor's story writing, he seems like the guy to put in subtle details as hints to what is impending.
Well he did start writing Season 5 after 9 months and if did kill Sheffield, it’s cuz that quote is a small detail that anyone could forget, so don’t blame him
@@fanofeverything30465 Its not that I hate the guy. People complain about his sense of humor but I don't mind it. Humor is subjective afterall. My problem with the writting *specifically* is how inconsistent and drab it can be, especially in Season 5. I feel like many of the story plots were underutilised or underplayed. This all could have made for an amazing, dark season. But the tone just doesn't make it feel that way.
4:50 No, Peter would not die now. Edward didn't find out about Allen until the SCP website was up, meaning that that Peter would have to be alive in the 2010's.
I went back to the season 5 teaser and the 4 scrap engines he passes are Mickey's Model, Sheffields model, Donalds model, and Bensons model. I love mickey and I dont want him to die 😭
I paid for the Patreon to see 'Revenge' and the others early (so far, only the aforementioned episode is available), and, well, all I can say is _holy shit._
@@TheTrainTheoristOfficial If I told you, that'd take all the fun out of the anticipation. Trust me, it'll be a whole lot better when you see the episode. And I suggest holding off on any more theory episodes until all three are released. It'll be a lot more impactful.
While IDK who will die in this episode It's very likely Thomas and Donald end getting ko'd by the disaster and need of serious repairs If the whole thing of the Steam Team being like the star tugs with Thomas being Ten Cents he'd would push a try of explosives away from the area and gets KO'D in the process (luckily saved by Whiff) Donald might have it worse but i'm guessing either -he gets KO'D while running away from the blast -he tries to fight the flames only to get rekt (probably what would happened to Mickey if he dies) Either way it could end with the 2 badly damaged and needing a massive overhaul I doubt Victor would be willing to kill official characters If it's possible there isn't much story ideas for Thomas or Donald Having the 2 be badly damaged and have to be at the works for a long time could be a good way to put them off from stories if they have no real use At worst season 6 could have the 2 dealing with the fallout of surviving and the "very possible" trauma from it :/ (Idk i'll wait and see what Victor has planned as "that's a story for another day")
You're correct that Victor is unwilling to kill off official characters. The only official character who has died is Dominic, and that's because he's the Spiteful Breakvan, who was explicitly killed in the books and show. Meaning that the only other canon characters we can count on dying on are S.C. Ruffey (or whatever Victor plans to rename him) and Sir Topham Hatt.
@@Trainlover1995 There are leaks claiming Thomas dies in the next episode but I'm waiting tell Fallout as it could be one of those "thinks they're dead moments" but later revealed alive and I'm predicting Thomas will get saved by the steam to diesel conversion.
Interesting theory, however I think that the one who causes the munitions disaster will be the son of Mr Billy shoepack. He did get put behind bars for killing Andreas, however I think that victor might still have a use for this character. I also think that it makes sense for a person with experience with dynamite and a grudge against the railway to set off munitions. However, his grudge was against Andreas, so I'm not sure. It could also be set off by the far right political party called the Union movement that was operating in England from 1948 to 1973 which was similar to the BUF. and given that the British Union tried to bomb knapford harbor, it might make sense for them to bomb the other harbor at brendam as well as other places on sodor because of the execution of their people for treason.
I have a feeling that you might be right about either Benson or Sheffield dying, but Peter, I don't think so. Another interesting theory next week is Revenge, so hopefully, we'll have some answers.
@@xuanchen1787 Or maybe James faked his scrapping with a scrapped one of his brothers and is still alive on sodor since he is the main awdry engines since Wilbert would not continue the books if Donald or James were dead and the scrap models we saw in the trailer as Winston's dead bodies and one of the scottish twins' brothers as decoys.
I think Donald is gonna die cuz u see him in the one accident and then, at the very end of the teaser trailer thing you can see a scrap model of him and the camera stars on it for a second to
Then after he is repaired at the works he shows up alive and well along with whiff since like Ten cents and grampus in the munitions episode and the group are surprised and relieved to see them alive.
I thought killing Peter this soon was a cheap punch. If you were to ask me how to write Peter coming across one of his victims who's out for blood, I would have Joey spot the gunman and step between him and Peter. Whether Joey would die or not would be up to the audience.
@@ThomasFisher-jr6bn just as I expected. Thrilled and satisfied that they REALLY DID kill Benson. But very distraught that Thomas was killed as well when I thought he was gonna survive. He should have never been killed! But there is hope that he is to return soon.
@@arenjtumastens He's likely in a green water induced coma like Barry and he's at Barry Island Scrapyard which had over 297 steam engines, but only 84 engines were scrapped and the rest were saved by preservationists. So Thomas might wake up there in the early 70s and return to Sodor to be fixed.
Since the final 3 episodes of season 5 are upon us I made my own personal list with reasons for the chance of there deaths. Donald - Although I hate to say this Donald is most likely to die as in one of the final scenes in the trailer we only sea one of the Caledonian twins at the memorial service aswell as a shot with Donald on his side in an exploded railway yard so his chances of survival. Sheffield - The possibility of Sheffield running over the bucket is very low in my opinion but I can see how it makes sense seeing as it has already been pointed out that geoffrey, a reformed engine, dying. This has made people think that the reformed engines, such as Sheffield, will die. And this is a possibility for Sheffield to die. Mickey - Since the evidence of Mickey dying has already been explained here I'll just add one more. And that's at the munitions disaster ,which seems to be at Brendam, and we only see Derek there and not Mickey. So why wouldn't he be there.
Neither Micky or Sheppard will die. Tanzig said they work on Sodor up too this day. Thomas and Whiff will not die because they aren't Tanzig's characters
With characters like these going to an abrupt end like this, you don't have a choice, for in the incoming Season 6 of Stories of Sodor, they will have American reinforcements: the big steam and diesel engines, who are willing to help, but in their own way, as British engines will have no choice but to cope, cooperate, and convene with these characters I'm sending in as replacements. David will replace Geoffrey at this point, and I will also bring in Luke, Louise, Jason, and Ariel, just in case any of these engines die. NOW, DON'T YOU DARE BRING UP THAT THE AMERICAN STEAM LOCOMOTIVES AREN'T ALLOWED IN BRITAIN BECAUSE OF THEIR SIZE AGAIN!!! Because if you do so, Murdoch, Theodore, Francis, and Joshua will be brought in forcibly, with the latter three receiving massive annoyment from the steam engines.
@@JasonRoblesSembrano Ok, want some Nerdy Train facts now? Cause I know alot about the Triplexes, and they'll do more worse than good, unless it's an "Improved" triplex by Baldwin, then it'll work, but if it's an original, then that'll be a problem, the engine's Locomotive Unit, they have 2 Sets of Cylinders mounted on Articulated Frames, and the Tender Unit has a 2-Cylinder Steam-Expansion engine underneath the frame, and the Tender Unit's frame is completely rigid, and the way the wheels are spaced looks more like a 2-8-8-0+0-8-2T+T, not a 2-8-8-8-2T.
I mean, Joshua (Diesel 10) is a given to join Sodor full time at some point in the future, given his apparence in the intro and Francis is already confirmed to be staying on the mainland as an express engine, while bringing in trains onto Sodor so I don't think he will be brought into Sodor forcibly, like you say.
Also Jason, it's Dudley that's replacing Geoffrey. Remember in the intro, while Joshua takes Geoffrey's spot in the intro, we see Dudley in Joshua's spot. Dudley is planned to be part of Stories of Sodor in the future too as well, so it wouldn't be your OC David.
Because we do see you and austerity in the shed when I was going through and describe one, so maybe it might be Samantha but I don’t know I just wanted to point this out for you
If you look at the shot of all the engines sad in the intro of the video i was like wheres thomas? Could he've bitten the bullet too also annie and clarabel are without him BUT AGAIN ITS JUSF A THEORY A TRAIN THEORY THANKS FOR WATCHING😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Something I don’t like about victor don’t get me wrong i love him a lot is how he kills characters and iv predicted them a lot of the deaths you just have to scroll on the comments
You know what I'm going to say...
Yep
Rip.
DON BOY IS GONE U CAN SEE HIM HEY IS DIE
Victor, If you do kill Mickey, he better
die as a hero, he deserves to great send off
“You’re half right…”
DANG IT VICTOR YOU’RE LEAVING US IN SUSPENSE
But it’s all just a theory. A TRAIN THEORY! Thanks for watching.
Nice!
Bro I did the same thing when I noticed
The fact that there are theory videos about a fan made Thomas series just tells you that the VictorVerse is a goat series
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I Was Kind Of Expecting Something Like “Hello Internet,Welcome To TRAIN THEORY!”
Someone pitch this to MatPat.
I have some of my own theories. Here how mine compare to your Munitions Theory:
1. I suspect one of the Halls being behind the disasters of Henry and Geffory.
2. I suspect one of the austerities will die but I don't know who. Though it will most likely be Sheffield as Peckect (sorry for the misspell) is a different design, Glenn isn't on Sodor, and Smantha is shown to be alive as she appears alongside Reginald during what seems to be the memorial service after the Fallout.
3. I suspect that Thomas gets caught in an explosion like Ten Cents did in the TUGS episode, but survives, as does Whiff.
4. Benson, I suspect he gets killed as they show a scrap remains of a B17, and that he'll possibly be in Big Mickey's place.
5. I'm hoping Peter doesn't die because he's my favorite character.
6. I'm hoping that the Hall responsible dies, as prison wouldn't be fair after what he's done, whether he gets blown up in the disaster, or sentenced to the death penalty.
7. Although I said Benson might die in Big Mickey's place, by like you, I suspect Mickey (Edward's Brother) will die.
8. As guessed by others about Donald possibly dying, I disagree because he's part of the main cast, and if he died, surely Wilbert wouldn't have continued writing stories with him in them if that were the case.
Note* The diesel in Sheffield's place is Owen, not Bear.
But in a 15 minute cut captain Starr said “the shallow waters saved big mickey from the explosions”
I think that’s what he said
So Mickey/Benson survives by falling in the ocean@@aplane9625
I'm afraid there's a slight issue with theory number six, under British and European law the death penalty is not a thing, The worst punishment you can get in great britain, never mind all of europe, is life in prison.
@@marknystrom1984well that depends. Remember this is set in 1965 and the UK didn’t abolish their death penalty until 1998.
Plus seeing Donald on his side after the explosion is too obvious, Victor wouldn't put spoiler in the preview
Nice theory! I bet it'll end half right. But honestly you did great eitherway
I can assume Thomas gets caught up in an explosion, but survives (like Ten cents did in the tugs episode “Munitions”)
I find it weird how everyone is talking about Thomas possibly dying. Percy wasn't seen with the engines in the Fallout scene where a majority are present. What does that mean for him, huh?
@@lesliewright5371Toby wasn't either
@@TheTrainTheoristOfficial But he was in the scene "who's fallout was devastating" next to Edward in the background so he's gonna be fine.
Let's hope so. Let's truly hope so.
You're half right
We only see One of the Scottish twins in the big funeral shots meaning either they're pulling the scrap train or they're in the scrap train
well after watching fallout, looks like I was wrong about one of the Scottish twins being apart of the scrap train.
7:17 Closer inspection and I can say that the "scrap K2" is not a K2 at all. It looks more like a scrap reskin of James' model which I can tell since it has a cutaway cab (Mickey, like Edward, has a windowed cab) and the fact it has a Fowler tender means nothing really despite James also has this tender. We saw in the episode "Rescue" with all the scrap engines so some of the engines were just scrap models of the existing characters, which could mean that most of the engines seen at the end of the Season 5 trailer are just withdrawn faceless engines to fill in the background.
if mickey does die im going to be devistated. and if he does die i probably have a good idea on how he might die. considering that benson s bluenose and bluenose broke down during the munitions disaster in munitions, i assume the same would happen to benson, and mickey would sacrafice himself to save him.
In the shot at 1:13 Derek is present as the disaster, but Mickey isn't which is weird because you'd think both Fire and Rescue engines would be present at the scene to put out the fire before it spreads.
It is possible that Mickey did show up to fight the fire, but he dies in the process.
I'm starting to think now the Prologue episode for Season 5 showing the scrapped engines was a red herring
Ok so I just remembered something that victor posted awhile ago, he said he was dealing with some writers block and needed help from us views I myself made a suggestion that hank come to the island with a rail tour (sadly I don’t think he’s gonna do that) but either way basically some people probably suggested that some characters die and despite past dialogue… I mean just think about it
Something else to note, at least I think it shoud be noted, is that Mr Hall (or the model used for him anyway) appears at end of the SCP's of Sodor episode "A Troublesome Engine" where he and other cultists bring Johnny Cuba to life.
probably just same model
I do believe that Mickey will likely bite the dust as it does look likely also I do think Benson will die and that Thomas will be in critical condition as in Munitions Tencents had to move a tanker out of the docks that caught fire ans he was damaged after that so Thomas will likely do something similar and he'll be in the works which would explain why we see many engines including Annie and Clarabel outside of the works, I also have a feeling that Mr Zorro will go this season as he'd be old by now and the last time Edward said that "Not all of us would live to see it's end" Mr Starr died during the war so we might be saying good bye to Mr Zorro
Let me guess, Tanzig will come here and say "You're Half Right".
Nah, he probably gonna say I'm wrong.
Wish victor would improve his style like new models with eye mechs, more sa music and some other things
I have thought about it a bit and I think the reason Rob is seen at the sites at the ends of the episodes is because he and his brother were planning an attack in a fit of rage after being abused by their uncle and while Rob wasn’t taking this seriously, he is beginning to realise his brother is following the plan they made back then and he hasn’t said anything yet because he has thought it was a coincidence at this stage but he is maybe starting to realise it now
Honestly its more likely one of the none TV/RWS canon ones that will die
True probably
That's what I don't believe.
I actually believe everyone who doesn't appear in the Intro is going to die, but I was wrong with Geoffrey, even so he was replaced after his final episode in it. But I'm not sure at all right now if my theory could be right
So barry going to die or maybe victor will have a branching for all non cannon characters
@@mattanatior97studios i say Sheffield
Well done for 1k subs! You deserve more!
Coming from the latest episode, revenge. Peter DIES. But from a german, not a Hall. Maybe? IDK maybe they both have some connection. That's theory for ya! Also, the Hall family tree, as you predicted, has been revealed. You are correct my friend.
There was a Caledonian 812 scrap model at the end of the season 5 trailer possible, it’s Douglas !
If mickey goes i see harvey/stanley taking his place.
If peter goes I see murdoch taking his spot
Shefield i see rosie taking his spot
We don't need another benson.
We also see Geoff/ Geoffrey in the introduction of every story of Sodor, so he could replace Mickey
@@jontyshersondude he's dead
@@keithharrissuwignjo2460He's talking about the Wildnorwester character who is the Works Diesel from "James and the Diesel Engines". SiF's Extended Railway Series names him "Wendell", while in the series me and my boys are working on, Sodor: The True Stories, the Works Diesel is female and named Taylor.
Little late but out of the 4 engines who will bite it I’m saying Benson. Why you may ask? Well in Victors short “remembrance” the only one of the 4 that’s not there is Benson and knowing his work it would be unbelievable for him not to be there, but that’s saying he’s still alive. And we know that short takes place only a few years ago from Edward’s speech…
Bro needs 84 more subs to get to 1000 hope you reach it soon!
AMAZING EDITING MATE
If what you are saying about the crane falling is true. Could this possibly be the introduction of Cranky?
Yes.
It’s actually been confirmed Cranky won’t appear in The Stories of Sodor
@@jaanshersaeed4541 He will in another season along with freddie, luke and mighty mac. who knows.
@@spongebobcoolduke1537 It was already said Cranky won’t a while back in The 345 Podcast: Stupid Villain Plans
@@jaanshersaeed4541 Oh i see but maybe he'll change his mind who knows.
Is Munitions seriously the last episode of Tugs? As I recall it was episode 5.
If Mickey does die, he better die as a hero, he deserves to great send off
Agreed, and I hope that he gets a medal from the queen posthumously.
@@virmirfan hear hear
Peter cannot die. In SCPs of Sodor Edward said in “A troublesome engine” “Would you believe if I never thought to ask Peter if he ever saw him until just NOW”. This scene takes place in 2015 so he won’t die.
This didn't age well at all
Well, looks like Victor forgot a plot point here because guess what happened. So that’s something Victor now has to retcon.
@@MattyHarris well it could Also fuction the way that Edward said it may has been like that he never thougth to aks him when he was a live
I know.
I don’t remember Benson having an arc. He’s just one those engines with an attitude that the others have to put up with.
In the episode “secrets” as we all know, Edward says Sheffield still works on the railway to modern day, HOWEVER
I haven’t seen anyone say this, but SAMANTHA might the the engine in the scrap line, what’s her story line? Has it finished, as we all know, in episode 2 of season 5, Geoffrey is replaced
Edit to this: Samantha is actually next to Reginald in the funeral, which rules her out, but it said that the heart ships were bad, so who is an engine, Reginald, Edward, Henry, Gordon, Samantha, S&M engines, and that group were friends or close with? I’m not sure, but it gives some fuel to theory’s
Wasn't shefield one of the engines stuck in the shed in scps
I don’t actually think that Sheffield will snuff it. I believe in the episode “Secrets”, Edward say that, to this day he remains a firm friend. Correct if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure that’s Sheffield.
Samantha
@@Alex3BigEngines3Bigengines0:34 if your referring to her dying this season.
Sheffield
@@Alex3BigEngines3Bigengines it can't be Samantha as she's shown with the other engines at the funeral seen but it can't be Sheffield because in secrets he's mention to still be on sodor to present day.
There is one mistake on the scp of sodor with the Alan one: victor said Peter will never see Alan since he was dead, but both 8f’s are dead now so they r in train heaven
You could make these a playlist called "train theory"
Well, we know Pete died,
Me rn :NOOOOOOO PETER!
And someone did go to jail but was wasn’t a haul
If Sheffield Dies, Here’s a story idea:
Title: Depression
Samantha feels depressed over the loss of her brother and this unfortunatlly causes her to not focus on her work. Because of this, her and James are involved in a huge accident, several trucks are destroyed, the 2 engines are badly damaged and many people were injured. At the works Mickey (If he doesn’t die) asked Sam what caused her to crash and she says it’s because of her depression and then the two engines have a therapy session which lasts about 5 minutes. It ends with Sam overcoming her desprresion and one night while pulling a train she witnesses Sheffield’s ghost and that’s how it ends. Thoughts?
Oh! That could be why he's become a evil demon or something in the sins shorts
wait, the scps of sodors, the F8 that died was a different one because it didn't have a 15 on its tender, plus brian said that he met a F8 that sounded exactly like peter, and during the death of "peter" the actual peter was in jail until the end of WW2 for 15 years and the death of "peter" was between peters jail time.
but peter dying would explain the F8 body scrap lying on the ground in the corner of brendam docks
Bro Took Theorizing To The Next Level.
Obviously, the Munitions episode will be a parody of the TUGS one, which I have seen.
I doubt Shefield is going to die. From the season 4 episode "secret", Edward says that Shefield continues to work on the railway until modern day.
Nice theory though.
The scrap engines are not a bad theory I must say. Though I have problem's with Victor's story writing, he seems like the guy to put in subtle details as hints to what is impending.
Well he did start writing Season 5 after 9 months and if did kill Sheffield, it’s cuz that quote is a small detail that anyone could forget, so don’t blame him
And check the scp of sodor the Alan one at the end cuz Eddie said Peter will never see his brother but he is in train heaven so now he can see him
@@Tnpt_studiosJust out of interest what are your problems with Victor's writing
@@fanofeverything30465 Its not that I hate the guy. People complain about his sense of humor but I don't mind it. Humor is subjective afterall.
My problem with the writting *specifically* is how inconsistent and drab it can be, especially in Season 5. I feel like many of the story plots were underutilised or underplayed. This all could have made for an amazing, dark season. But the tone just doesn't make it feel that way.
4:50 No, Peter would not die now. Edward didn't find out about Allen until the SCP website was up, meaning that that Peter would have to be alive in the 2010's.
I went back to the season 5 teaser and the 4 scrap engines he passes are Mickey's Model, Sheffields model, Donalds model, and Bensons model. I love mickey and I dont want him to die 😭
One of the evil twins is pretty probably gonna be an member of *The Chaos Insurgency*
If the CI Are intended To be the enemy of the Attacks. The Chaos Insurgency is known for the Attacks and Raids on the SCP Foundation.
Ok someone get viktor here to throw more mystery on this fire
What will you do for 1k subs?
But that's just a theory A TRAIN THEORY
get it because your doing a theory on the series ya know heh sorry this is really good tho so keep up the work
Isn’t there a fourth before revenge called experiment?
That was actually an L&YR modified Class 28 you were pointing out. I can tell by the cab shape.
Like, a certain James?
@@AureusUA-cam Except it’s not James.
@@Edward2Fan47maybe it’s Winston (Eagle)
I paid for the Patreon to see 'Revenge' and the others early (so far, only the aforementioned episode is available), and, well, all I can say is _holy shit._
Did I get some things right?
@@TheTrainTheoristOfficial If I told you, that'd take all the fun out of the anticipation. Trust me, it'll be a whole lot better when you see the episode. And I suggest holding off on any more theory episodes until all three are released. It'll be a lot more impactful.
The Munitions one is the last one.
My theory was that their was no k2 scrap model so in place he used James model
I love this, But I don’t think he would kill Peter. I mean he just came back from railgate
While IDK who will die in this episode
It's very likely Thomas and Donald end getting ko'd by the disaster and need of serious repairs
If the whole thing of the Steam Team being like the star tugs with Thomas being Ten Cents he'd would push a try of explosives away from the area and gets KO'D in the process (luckily saved by Whiff)
Donald might have it worse but i'm guessing either
-he gets KO'D while running away from the blast
-he tries to fight the flames only to get rekt (probably what would happened to Mickey if he dies)
Either way it could end with the 2 badly damaged and needing a massive overhaul
I doubt Victor would be willing to kill official characters
If it's possible there isn't much story ideas for Thomas or Donald
Having the 2 be badly damaged and have to be at the works for a long time could be a good way to put them off from stories if they have no real use
At worst season 6 could have the 2 dealing with the fallout of surviving and the "very possible" trauma from it :/
(Idk i'll wait and see what Victor has planned as "that's a story for another day")
Maybe Thomas and Donald get saved by the steam to diesel conversion?
You're correct that Victor is unwilling to kill off official characters. The only official character who has died is Dominic, and that's because he's the Spiteful Breakvan, who was explicitly killed in the books and show. Meaning that the only other canon characters we can count on dying on are S.C. Ruffey (or whatever Victor plans to rename him) and Sir Topham Hatt.
@@Trainlover1995
There are leaks claiming Thomas dies in the next episode but I'm waiting tell Fallout as it could be one of those "thinks they're dead moments" but later revealed alive and I'm predicting Thomas will get saved by the steam to diesel conversion.
Interesting theory, however I think that the one who causes the munitions disaster will be the son of Mr Billy shoepack. He did get put behind bars for killing Andreas, however I think that victor might still have a use for this character. I also think that it makes sense for a person with experience with dynamite and a grudge against the railway to set off munitions. However, his grudge was against Andreas, so I'm not sure. It could also be set off by the far right political party called the Union movement that was operating in England from 1948 to 1973 which was similar to the BUF. and given that the British Union tried to bomb knapford harbor, it might make sense for them to bomb the other harbor at brendam as well as other places on sodor because of the execution of their people for treason.
I like the fact that you're looking at this from an angle that not even I tried.....Good job!
Could be, but I'm basing this off of evidence we have in the series.
In here looking at comments to see if Victor confirms if Zanzu is half right
I shot for the fences here, so probably not.
I have a feeling that you might be right about either Benson or Sheffield dying, but Peter, I don't think so.
Another interesting theory next week is Revenge, so hopefully, we'll have some answers.
Revenge, Munitions, and Fallout are all mentioned in this theory.
Next week is Experiment
This did not age well
One problem with Munitions, Mickey is presented as the Fire Tug, and the Fire Tug only shows up after the disaster in the original.
Then where is he in the shot of the aftermath?
@@TheTrainTheoristOfficialwe’ll eventually see
I think the scrape model in the prologue is a James model because the whistle on top
or derek can be the rescue instead of mickey
@@xuanchen1787 Or maybe James faked his scrapping with a scrapped one of his brothers and is still alive on sodor since he is the main awdry engines since Wilbert would not continue the books if Donald or James were dead and the scrap models we saw in the trailer as Winston's dead bodies and one of the scottish twins' brothers as decoys.
I think Donald is gonna die cuz u see him in the one accident and then, at the very end of the teaser trailer thing you can see a scrap model of him and the camera stars on it for a second to
One thing :Thomas is'nt in the group of engines after the disaster
But Annie and clarebale are....
oh no....
Then after he is repaired at the works he shows up alive and well along with whiff since like Ten cents and grampus in the munitions episode and the group are surprised and relieved to see them alive.
Ok, to be honest, I know this is because of being ahead of time but, I think season 6 is going like the greatest time for Sodor believe
I thought killing Peter this soon was a cheap punch.
If you were to ask me how to write Peter coming across one of his victims who's out for blood, I would have Joey spot the gunman and step between him and Peter.
Whether Joey would die or not would be up to the audience.
But hey! That's just a theory. A sodor theory!
Bluenose (TUGS) was said to be in shcok, not dead.
7:17 Actually, that model isn't a K2, it's the same model as James, you can tell by the windows
Same thing goes with Mickey.
I don’t think Mickey will die, in my opinion he’s the smartest character in the series and is quite cautious, he would know better
Mickey is a K2 though
But the scrap engine isn’t a K2
@@jasonanderson6583 Exactly, so Mickey might not die
I have been wanting Benson dead for a while because of how much of a prat he is. So I will be VERY thrilled if he gets killed.
Now that the episodes is out, how do you feel?
@@ThomasFisher-jr6bn just as I expected. Thrilled and satisfied that they REALLY DID kill Benson.
But very distraught that Thomas was killed as well when I thought he was gonna survive. He should have never been killed! But there is hope that he is to return soon.
@@arenjtumastens He's likely in a green water induced coma like Barry and he's at Barry Island Scrapyard which had over 297 steam engines, but only 84 engines were scrapped and the rest were saved by preservationists. So Thomas might wake up there in the early 70s and return to Sodor to be fixed.
But blue nose survives in munitions
5:35 here we also see a benson and donald scrapped :|
Mate you were partly right because Peter and Mr Zorro just snuff it
Edit and now it's seems Benson and sadly Thomas snuff it too
Since the final 3 episodes of season 5 are upon us I made my own personal list with reasons for the chance of there deaths.
Donald - Although I hate to say this Donald is most likely to die as in one of the final scenes in the trailer we only sea one of the Caledonian twins at the memorial service aswell as a shot with Donald on his side in an exploded railway yard so his chances of survival.
Sheffield - The possibility of Sheffield running over the bucket is very low in my opinion but I can see how it makes sense seeing as it has already been pointed out that geoffrey, a reformed engine, dying. This has made people think that the reformed engines, such as Sheffield, will die. And this is a possibility for Sheffield to die.
Mickey - Since the evidence of Mickey dying has already been explained here I'll just add one more. And that's at the munitions disaster ,which seems to be at Brendam, and we only see Derek there and not Mickey. So why wouldn't he be there.
The half of your twin haul theory that was right was the twin brother because a sodor answers said that engines have been converted to oil in the past
Mickey is my favorite character,so if they do kill him off I will be really depressed
The cranes name is Bigg Mickey.
My personal opinion is that Mr hall is prob gonna be the son of a victim in an accident off screen
But then it’s just a theory……..A TRAIN THEORY
Neither Micky or Sheppard will die. Tanzig said they work on Sodor up too this day. Thomas and Whiff will not die because they aren't Tanzig's characters
Well I have a long story for you….
With characters like these going to an abrupt end like this, you don't have a choice, for in the incoming Season 6 of Stories of Sodor, they will have American reinforcements: the big steam and diesel engines, who are willing to help, but in their own way, as British engines will have no choice but to cope, cooperate, and convene with these characters I'm sending in as replacements.
David will replace Geoffrey at this point, and I will also bring in Luke, Louise, Jason, and Ariel, just in case any of these engines die.
NOW, DON'T YOU DARE BRING UP THAT THE AMERICAN STEAM LOCOMOTIVES AREN'T ALLOWED IN BRITAIN BECAUSE OF THEIR SIZE AGAIN!!!
Because if you do so, Murdoch, Theodore, Francis, and Joshua will be brought in forcibly, with the latter three receiving massive annoyment from the steam engines.
Ok, but what happens if a 2-8-8-0+0-8-2 Triplex Enters the island?
@@CrazyGWR57XXmanufacturer You're kidding! But as long as it's articulated, it'll do well in Sodor.
@@JasonRoblesSembrano Ok, want some Nerdy Train facts now? Cause I know alot about the Triplexes, and they'll do more worse than good, unless it's an "Improved" triplex by Baldwin, then it'll work, but if it's an original, then that'll be a problem, the engine's Locomotive Unit, they have 2 Sets of Cylinders mounted on Articulated Frames, and the Tender Unit has a 2-Cylinder Steam-Expansion engine underneath the frame, and the Tender Unit's frame is completely rigid, and the way the wheels are spaced looks more like a 2-8-8-0+0-8-2T+T, not a 2-8-8-8-2T.
I mean, Joshua (Diesel 10) is a given to join Sodor full time at some point in the future, given his apparence in the intro and Francis is already confirmed to be staying on the mainland as an express engine, while bringing in trains onto Sodor so I don't think he will be brought into Sodor forcibly, like you say.
Also Jason, it's Dudley that's replacing Geoffrey. Remember in the intro, while Joshua takes Geoffrey's spot in the intro, we see Dudley in Joshua's spot. Dudley is planned to be part of Stories of Sodor in the future too as well, so it wouldn't be your OC David.
Because we do see you and austerity in the shed when I was going through and describe one, so maybe it might be Samantha but I don’t know I just wanted to point this out for you
That wasn’t a K2 in the scrapyard , that was a Class 28, so James might die this season
No since he is an awdry/tvs character so it is possibly winston we saw or one of his brothers who looks like him.
James, Sheffield, Benson, one of the Scots, dead
4:47 Spoiler alert: He did.
But hey it's just a theory a train theory
He said J 94 so it could be either Sheffield or Samantha
I think yur right about Benson , but Mickey and Shefield I doubt, Peter Tho Hmmmmmmm,
Actually, in scps of sodor, Edward said he JUST talked to Peter about his brother.
If you look at the shot of all the engines sad in the intro of the video i was like wheres thomas? Could he've bitten the bullet too also annie and clarabel are without him
BUT AGAIN ITS JUSF A THEORY A TRAIN THEORY THANKS FOR WATCHING😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The episode was leaked by someone I won't spoil but it was wild
Nah I saw it, it's definitely either it is the truth or it gets revealed that isn't.
@Zanzu000 why did thomas have to die?!??!!???!!??
Rip thomas and benson may he burn in hell for causing thomas death
It could be Samantha as well
Thomas is dead ?!
That was not roberts brother thar was luther
Something I don’t like about victor don’t get me wrong i love him a lot is how he kills characters and iv predicted them a lot of the deaths you just have to scroll on the comments
That is not a k2 it's a james
Yoooooo Mickeyyyyyy
someone leaked the episode.
I think everybody dies in stories of sodor
No not the tv series or rws characters
D I D I S T U T T E R ?@@spongebobcoolduke1537
Bro at 0:43 in the video does anyone notice the logo at the top right😂😂
Type up 'film theory' if you don't know the symbol
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First viewer here
71st Viewer I think
Also I do think that Sheffield will die
Also Thanks for the heart
Ummm 28th viewer here I guess?