I hope this video was helpful to someone, here is a discount code for you: VVPROMO to get 5% off, all links are in the description of the video. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this and any ways you think would work even better for the price. cheers J
Another reason for preheat is to stop any potential martinsite in the heat affected zone or majority austinite and pearlite when its mean to be ferrite and pealite in low carbon steel (0.2%-0.5% carbon content)
That deburing thing is magic, im still using a Norga deburing hand tool i got as an apprentice sheetmetal worker over 40 years ago, using original tip !!!
TBH, im super glad YT algorithm suggested me your channel. great to see you're still using the products you got in the past making the reviews that much more true over the "years". and you dont shout while being smart-funny. great job!
Thank you so much. I'm really glad to have your support and encouragement, I want to try and bring more simple diy tools and techniques in the future. However reviewing some of the more complex machines is paying the way and hopefully is still of interest to you. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle of course it is. im still trying to do a shop of my own so anything goes in terms of welding, cnc, machining, wood and metal working, or anything workshop related (my first view was the webasto you did and it seems it's still rocking in the background) related is awesome and much appreciated
Hi Joshua, that seems like a powerful "small" monster you build there 😃 Too "heavy" for the stuff I make, but the way you build these tools and give a clear explanation how to build them, is always a pleasure to watch. I already pick up some of your tooling ideas, bought them myself and still happy I did 🙂 I am sure you inspire lots of people. I hope it works out with your future projects. Have fun! 👍
Thank you so much and I'm glad these videos are helpful to you, thank you for letting me know as it is a real encouragment. I'm considdering getting quick connection fitting for the hydraulics and maybe experiment with small cyclinders for making super clamps. cheers J
Nicely done, I like how you used the plasma cutter to cut out the I beam to slide your piece in to weld it instead of just welding it on the bottom - makes it very strong that way. Thanks for the video!
Thank you. Yes it's definitely one of the stronger ways to join it for this application. I think 30t would potentially peel it off if it was just butt welded. Cheers J
Great to see another build. I look forward to seeing the new videos you talk about getting back to hand making tools and working with the copice project. Thanks for all the great content
"The question is, can I get this back in again." How many times have I asked myself that one. I encountered ball bearings and springs when, at age 12, I took my pellet gun apart. I never did get the safety working properly after that. I loved watching this adventure.
Even though you are across the pond from me, I do enjoy seeing your videos. You have helped me think about having different diy options. Keep up the good work.
Hello, I have just finish mine from your build but with the electric hydraulic pump and its a very nice portable press. I didn't push to the max of capacity yet, but it's working fine for me ! Thanks !
I would love to see a pic of your set up. I am going to build one as well, but wasnt sure what kind of air volume it would take vs the electric over hydraulic.
shove a bit of cloth in the exhaust, and a ziptie around the exhaust port for the chamfer tool, makes it much quieter, also they make corner round inserts for them as well
Another great video. I'm going to admit I did not fully understand all of the details (my problem not your delivery) but really loved the insightfulness. What a wonderful tool you've created. Can't wait to see what you're gonna do with it.
Very good idea... if rebuilding one of those footvalves is not beyond you... sometimes you can pick them up at bodyshops broken. This is the same system used to straighten frames... and they work great! You can actually pull a car to pieces with one .
Different, I always like it along the context of it won't be used as intended. As the this, and that come together into something unique. Like the press, thanks for sharing. Cheers!
Joshua always great to see ur videos my friend. Always learning from your videos sir. Awesome exampleing and reviewimg tools / toys. Absolutely awesome job. Love this design and build. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep forge lit. Forge your life worth living. Keep making. God bless.
Really pleased you have got the chance of making one of these I have been collecting parts for one myself. problem I have is I acquired a petrol driven pump and have to convert to electric Bah! at least the neighbours will be happy I haven't gone the power hammer route! lol keep up the videos really appreciate them they all cover what I mess about with 👍
Joshua, it is so hard forging that life worth living working 12 hours days. you are a welcome beacon of release and inspiration. I am hoping to buy your power hammer plans shortly. All your content is awesome and come away with something. please go back to your roots. as the world collapses in on itself those are the skill the ordinary person will need to survive. thank you
Thank you so much. Definitely having those traditional and primitive skills is important for both self-sufficiency and survival should it hit the fan. I did 12hour night shifts after I lost my old workshop and very slowly kept using my rest days to build up the life we have now. It's hard work but no one else will do it for you. All the very best my friend. Cheers J
hmmm , have a air over hydrailic pump on my 20 ton garagepress , and the pu mp itself looks verry simulair to the one in the foot operated one , might go take a look if i can convert it to foot operation ..........could put a foot operated aitvalve on it but then i still whont be able to release the ram without taking my hand off the woekpiece to operate the release valve
@joshuadelisle I purchased one of these this week and worked a treat to remove a seized pin. I have found though that the hydraulic oil is leaking from the internal seal quite badly. Have you experienced this at all on yours? Upon closer inspection the internal bore of the hollow piston hasn’t got the finest machining finish which is probably what’s causing this issue. It holds under load (as the seal conforms) but leaks when idle. Be interested in your experience a few months on.
Thank you I'll definitely check mine as I use it. I left the breath hole open when storing it once and it leaked but other than that it's been fine. Cheers J
Hello Thank you for a nice video. What kind of oil do you use in the pump? Bought the same pump but cant find What oil type i must use? Please let me know if you can. Best regards Tobias
Could you please make a video on your vice metal bending rig. I'm very interested if you build it yourself and how you made it. Or if it's just a tool you bought and how you rate it
This is amazing stuff, I am about to buy this cylinder and pump, actually 50mm stroke because I think I need smaller cylinder so I can use it on cars to take out bearings. But I will build a press to. Any advices?!
Also is it necessary to have that air valve on the air hose that is connected to the pump? Good job man, and thanks a lot for the reply and all the DIY info on your channel!
Another reason why you should pre-heat a huge steel plate before welding, is called "equivalent carbon" (probably not the right term). It is a metallurgy formula that allows you to calculate the hardenability of the heated metal (in that case the weld). The problem with such thick steel is that the carbon is attracted by the weld, and the final weld ends up being much harder than if the plate was thinner because the carbon has more room to go in the weld. I welded recently a 40mm steel plate which was 0.13% carbon, and the carbon equivalent ended up being 0.7% !!!! so this is waaay above the minimum for it to harden. I just learned this a few days ago and i found this fascinating thought i would share !
@@joshuadelisle i knew it was just a regular construction Steel, so i took the average composition to enter in the formula which ended up in a carbon equivalent of 0,7%
I built a similar one some years ago out of a short ram that 'only' had 20 tons and would still deform my frame with ease. I've had one of these foot pump ones on my Redo list now that I'm a more competent welder, but steel prices have kept me from doing so. Might be about time to slip down to the scrap yard and trade in my pile of aluminum cans!
You certainly could. Probably needs a larger hydraulic tank for anything serious. You could even have several foot pumps for different actions. Cheers J
Hi mate, interesting video. So no dramas mounting that Ram upside with fluid leakage or air voids above the pump? Do the specs say you can mount it upside down? Cheers
Hi Joshua, I am planning to build a press to make "techoplancton" for fishing. That is basically different flours and materials pressed dry under high pressure. It really needs 15-20 tons of pressure so it sticks well. I normally use a manual 20 tons bottle jack to make it but want to try an electric solution. Do you think these Vevor tools could handle it reliably?
I've just used mine to forge 90 railing spike tops and bend 100x 316 stainless brackets. So far its been very reliable and theyre very simple but sturdy bits of kit that I've got. i've not tried their electric version yet though, I can only coment on the exact kit I've used. cheers J
@@joshuadelisle Thanks! What I meant by "electric" that it's not manual (like the bottle jack). The one in your video is using air compressor if I understand well but some folks told me the air compressors are not good enough (don't make enough pressure) and only the oil pump versions are reliable. But those are way more expensive hence I am interested in your opinion. If a 30 TON set (same cylinder and same air powered pump) can do 20 tons of pressure it should work.
Thanks for another great video. You mentioned you buy in the old forklift forks for a tenner. I could really use some steel that thick but haven't been able to afford it. Where do you get them from at such a low price? Or have you got any you want to sell? I only need 1 or 2. Any info would be great. Thanks again
Thank you. A friend gets them for me from a scrap man. They apparently have to replace the tines once they are worn or damaged. If you're in the UK I can maybe get you a contact? Cheers J
Lol I like this I want to bend 2x2 box square tubing and this helps me get an idea of how to do it without 220v or heat. I just need a few 90° bends. I was already thinking about using a manual log spliter and this helps me out with this.
Thank you. Yep this will be great for that. I'm going to make tooling for mine for bar cropping, sheet metal break press, hole punch and die forming. I've even considered using multiple pumps to increase speed and to use on a double acting cylinder. Cheers J
I know this is an older video now but awesome lookining , what's the smallest compressor you think you could run on as I'm thinking about having a go but not much space for a compressor was thinking of a small 24l electric one but not sure it would cope
Hi sorry for the questions but just checking as im new to air compressors, the hydraulic pump days it used 5-10cfm as most compressors seem to be about9.6 is that OK or would 14.5 be a lot better, I dont really use a air tools so compressor would really just be for this project.
@@chrislawrence6015 the cfm is how fast it re-fills, a large tank takes longer to fill so a bigger cfm pump is required. It makes no difference to the output which is determined by the psi and diameter of hose. Cheers J
Thank you Terry. The UK has limited stock but the USA stock has an amazing selection of different types, I'm super pleased with how compact this version is also. cheers J
Quick noob question, you linked 750w double acting hydraulic power pack in the discription, what are the hydrolic power packs used for? just wondering because i never saw them in the video
@@joshuadelisle so this is a different option than the compressed air footpetal? if you got one of the hydraulic pumps do you still need air footpetal? is there any solid differences on how it affects the press? thanks.
Great video Joshua, it seems its been a while since your videos popped up. I'm very glad to hear about your self sufficiency forged tools. Obviously that's been a goal and long term plan of yours, considering the wood gas generator , steam generator etc. So keep up the great work. Just don't get taken too much by all the "sustainable" talk. And if you hear that in the context of "sustainable development " and "governance" , run for the hills, there is an agenda behind it and you and I and our families are not in the club if ya know what I mean. I have a feeling you already know this stuff though. I've liked the video and I'm gonna share it on my Facebook page. So keep forging a life worth living and I'll see you on the next video.
So my friend works for a scrap dealer and supplies them for me. I would simply ask your local if they can reserve some for youand you pay them the scrap value or a bit extra to make it worth their while. cheers J
It's rated to 10000psi so most of the pumps will produce that but the question is flow rate. The faster the flow rate the faster the punch speed. Most of Vevors pumps are all the same except the electric versions. Cheers J
I almost choked on my vape when you said how much (little) you pay for the forklift tines; I mean, a tenner for all that steel?! 😲 I love these _"look at what I built for a fraction of the cost"_ type videos; I just wish I had (or knew someone who did have) random lengths of I-beam and chunks of 12mm plate lying around as scrap. 😄👍
Lol. It's a definite fact that the best deals can't be found on the internet and instead networking with the hidden away underdogs of the industry can find you the best stuff. Note that the I-beam has been lying around in my shed for 12 years and those tines I bought pre covid when prices weren't as crazy. Cheers J
Baker forklifts do some of the best tines as never had a fault once in 20years of scrap yard animals trying to lift 20ton on 3.5 tonight trucks😂 Cheap daint last a week
@@Tattooedfreak _"trying to lift 20 ton on 3.5 ton trucks"_ I've worked with people like that, well, _tried_ to! Do you think they're all related, or at least share a common gene? 🤔😆
@@Loneman_OG maximum stupidity seems to be very common in the workplace. Look at those in charge tbf most have never picked up more than a pen and they are controlling the job.
Hello. Very nice video. Can I ask - what is the adapter you used to replace the coupling supplied on the jack? Seems there is a lot of choice out there - I don't know too much about hydraulics other than I dont want to be on the wrong end of a bad connection!
Cheers. And quick reply! Ive recently acquired a similar setup, but the pump didnt come with any female coupling part. Anyway, thanks for the info and great video.
Cheers @@HarryPalm-px9gy. I actually found the coupling I was after - search "Male Coupling with Nitrile Seals, NPT, Quick Couplers, Hydraulic Tooling - 3/8"". Vevor annoyingly do a female-connection version, which wont of course fit the ram.
Wow someone else who can free hand with a plasma or a torch. I get so tired of seeing angle grinders cutting through 1/4 thick plate or more when people own torches.
I will certainly be making punching die holders for it. You get a 35t punch from VEVOR that is very affordable. Depends on the size of cut out you want to make. Cheers J
So say you already have a hydraulic shop press and you wanted to add the air over haydraulic pump to it so it could be used as a forging press. Is that possible with this pump and if so how would you add it to the existing hydraulic cylinder that currently only has a hand pump?
Hi. I have an aircraft jack which is at least 50t by my reckoning. I want to build a pump similar to this one using a short 100mm diameter cylinder and pneumatics. This pump won't be enough but I have considered daisy chaining a few of these pumps together. It would use more air than what the compressor can pump but having a large tank means it will be able to run for a while at a much faster speed. Cheers J
Joshua, with the compact size of this you should consider drilling a hole in the top support so you can use it as a bearing puller too like your demo with the wood. Does the ram automatically retract when you stop depressing the pedal or do you need to turn a release valve. Do you think 2.5 inch mild steel would work in place of the hardened fork lift tines? I was also thinking it would be pretty easy to make a quick change die for the ram too and incorporate your straightener. As much as I want to build every cool thing I see I'm limited by budget and time but the simplicity of this is so fantastic and affordable I'm not limited by either! Seems like a nice tool to compress a Damascus billet.
Thank you so much and those are good ideas. I'll definitely create a punching die, brake press, metal shears etc later on. I may also ad a second or even third pump daisy chained together to increase flow rate and get quicker forging speeds. The retraction happens when I engage the pedal forward, otherwise it sits in a neutral position and doesn't move which can be handy for clamping. Cheers J
This stuff IS what I'd like to see you make! I'm an aspiring blacksmith, veeeeeeery close to being a journeyman Welder (Red Seal welder in Canada) and have worked in metal fabrication for about 5-6 years and my "long game" goal is to have my own workshop with the tools I need to use all of my knowledge and experience to run a small business. I have an issue that compounds the difficulty of not working with a press or power hammer, I've had heart disease since I was born and had my last open heart surgery 4 years ago so swinging a hammer for ages and ages really wears me down. But my real problem after that, is capital. I don't have the money to be able to afford a small power hammer or even a 6 ton press (lol saw one at Canadian tire, well a log splitter on sale but EVEN STILL). Anyway, yeah finding out ways to make cheap but really useful equipment to get a broke ass bitch like myself burning propane. Keep up the good work, the videos are great!!
I’ve been trying to come up with a cheap option to assist me in forging blades and other small projects. I will have to build whatever I choose which means I’ll have to get a welder first… I’ve seen some used, electric wood splitters for pretty cheap. Either I make a powered press or power hammer. If I do the planning right, I could use my belt grinder motor to run the power hammer.. I still have to get a used $100 welder and to learn how to at least do a half decent weld.
@@Ismailshaikh-hd5uv 500 tons is a lot. One of those would be used to forge shafts for power station stators. I think it's a bit overkill for rice. For example you would need something like a 150hp motor to drive the hydraulics which is a very big motor. It depends on how fast you want it to move but you can get away with a small motor and pump if the cylinder is a very large bore and the press die is small to produce 500tons.
@@Phaedon yes. You'll be compensating tonnage for speed. If you want high speed and high tonnage then you need a more powerful pump and motor. Cheers J
Joshua - you’m a bleddy star! I’ve been asking all the suppliers today via messenger and email and it appears you had already answered positively some 9 hours ago … Whilst none of them know or will apparently … get back to me?
@@davideddy2672 they're very pricey, I considderd buying a diesel hydraulic log spliter just for the parts as they are cheaper than buying just the powepack. cheers j
Really enjoy your videos. I wonder whether you would be better with the smaller cylinder for blacksmithing as it would be faster. Real 12t seems to be adequate in most off the shelf “home” type blacksmithing presses?
@@joshuadelisle Great video and thanks for the sources. I was wondering how to speed it up as well. Would a different power pack do the trick? Not sure what spec would need changing I'm guessing greater GPM flow? I've had some I-Beam laying around forever might give this a go.
Ahh the price difference is insane between the UK and where I live (USA - TN) I found a used 32T for 350$ when I was looking. Good on you for supplying the DIY alternative. Cheers m8
@@joshuadelisle It was 7:18 but now I've rewatched it again i understand its heated before welding so not to take the heat out of the weld. Makes sense now, I watched it after finishing work at 5am i was half asleep, that's my excuse anyway 😂 Thanks for your quick reply 👍
11cfm is a flow rate that no single phase compressor will cope with. Demonstrated by how much it slows as the load goes up. Log splitters are fast because they have a much faster pump rate.
Do we wanna see it????.........yes, without nay reservation this 30 tons is awesome......I have a 10 ton shop type press and now I'm fitting a hydraulic pump unit to it.
How about modifying a portable sack / bag sewing machine into a walking foot leather/ canvas sewing machine with a little stand to mount it on..the bag seamers are like $80..they will sew thru tin cans as is..Cheers..
Sounds interesting. I've actually just got a hand sewing machine for stitching up something for my PAPR system. Cost me £13. I'll look into the bag sewing machine if you think they're useful. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle it could be a very popular option for leather crafting and even boaters as sewing machines that can handle thicker materials are crazy expensive..the bag seamer is a walking foot design but has the wrong locking stitch I believe..maybe possible to modify the ribbon / timing maybe to have a different stitch..Vevor sells them too..maybe you can get one to review? And tinker with..Cheers..
I hope this video was helpful to someone, here is a discount code for you: VVPROMO to get 5% off, all links are in the description of the video.
I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this and any ways you think would work even better for the price. cheers J
Another reason for preheat is to stop any potential martinsite in the heat affected zone or majority austinite and pearlite when its mean to be ferrite and pealite in low carbon steel (0.2%-0.5% carbon content)
Crazy how far you've came Josh, I knew you'd do great on UA-cam 😊
@@knifethrower9733 you're very kind thank you. Cheers J
@@jonhy2x4 thank you Jon. That's great information. Cheers J
Do you have a video on how you made your cnc plasma?
Really like the look of it, just what I need!
That deburing thing is magic, im still using a Norga deburing hand tool i got as an apprentice sheetmetal worker over 40 years ago, using original tip !!!
Nice. Cheers J
Always nice when someone saves us being nosey, and losing bits ourselves! Excellent review.
Thank you so much. cheers J
TBH, im super glad YT algorithm suggested me your channel. great to see you're still using the products you got in the past making the reviews that much more true over the "years". and you dont shout while being smart-funny.
great job!
Thank you so much. I'm really glad to have your support and encouragement, I want to try and bring more simple diy tools and techniques in the future. However reviewing some of the more complex machines is paying the way and hopefully is still of interest to you. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle of course it is. im still trying to do a shop of my own so anything goes in terms of welding, cnc, machining, wood and metal working, or anything workshop related (my first view was the webasto you did and it seems it's still rocking in the background) related is awesome and much appreciated
Hi Joshua, that seems like a powerful "small" monster you build there 😃 Too "heavy" for the stuff I make, but the way you build these tools and give a clear explanation how to build them, is always a pleasure to watch. I already pick up some of your tooling ideas, bought them myself and still happy I did 🙂 I am sure you inspire lots of people.
I hope it works out with your future projects. Have fun! 👍
Thank you so much and I'm glad these videos are helpful to you, thank you for letting me know as it is a real encouragment. I'm considdering getting quick connection fitting for the hydraulics and maybe experiment with small cyclinders for making super clamps. cheers J
Nicely done, I like how you used the plasma cutter to cut out the I beam to slide your piece in to weld it instead of just welding it on the bottom - makes it very strong that way. Thanks for the video!
Thank you. Yes it's definitely one of the stronger ways to join it for this application. I think 30t would potentially peel it off if it was just butt welded. Cheers J
Great to see another build. I look forward to seeing the new videos you talk about getting back to hand making tools and working with the copice project. Thanks for all the great content
Next video filming this week. Cheers J
I'd love to see more of this press, forging something from start to finish, I'm an amateur smith and i've been considering a hydraulic press.
Thank you, I'll see what I can do with my next commission piece. Cheers J
"The question is, can I get this back in again." How many times have I asked myself that one. I encountered ball bearings and springs when, at age 12, I took my pellet gun apart. I never did get the safety working properly after that. I loved watching this adventure.
Thank you so much. Cheers J
Wow, that is indeed a mighty little press!! Joshua you are one very talented individual. Every video just gets better and better. 👏✊👍
You're very kind Trevor. Cheers J
Even though you are across the pond from me, I do enjoy seeing your videos. You have helped me think about having different diy options. Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much. All the very best. Cheers J
Hello, I have just finish mine from your build but with the electric hydraulic pump and its a very nice portable press. I didn't push to the max of capacity yet, but it's working fine for me ! Thanks !
Well done. Cheers J
Does the cylinder retract by itself when the pump is turned off?
@carpy1970 yes when the return valve is pressed. There is an internal spring that makes it retract. Cheers J
I would love to see a pic of your set up. I am going to build one as well, but wasnt sure what kind of air volume it would take vs the electric over hydraulic.
shove a bit of cloth in the exhaust, and a ziptie around the exhaust port for the chamfer tool, makes it much quieter, also they make corner round inserts for them as well
Good tip thank you David. Cheers J
you mentioned getting a log splitter, how about making a form and creating a wood briquette press for sawdust/chips ?
Good idea 👍 cheers J
Another great video. I'm going to admit I did not fully understand all of the details (my problem not your delivery) but really loved the insightfulness.
What a wonderful tool you've created. Can't wait to see what you're gonna do with it.
Thank you so much. Cheers J
This is the content I enjoy watching, plus traditional forging.
Thank you David. Cheers J
i always love these DIY tools! i cant believe the compact size to power ratio.
Thank you. Including the compressor it's not so compact but it's definitely tidy. Cheers J
youtube not recommending me this channel is borderline criminal
@@chrishayes5755 thank you. Cheers J
Amazing. I could see you making custom hole punches and lots of stuff.
Ram seals are normally the only problem with use.
But used to get them made over night in a higher quality and spec by ram express at Cannock.
Very good idea... if rebuilding one of those footvalves is not beyond you... sometimes you can pick them up at bodyshops broken. This is the same system used to straighten frames... and they work great! You can actually pull a car to pieces with one .
They sure are good bits of kit. Cheers J
Different, I always like it along the context of it won't be used as intended. As the this, and that come together into something unique. Like the press, thanks for sharing. Cheers!
Thank you. Cheers J
Joshua always great to see ur videos my friend. Always learning from your videos sir. Awesome exampleing and reviewimg tools / toys. Absolutely awesome job. Love this design and build. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep forge lit. Forge your life worth living. Keep making. God bless.
Thank you and God bless you too for your kindness and encouragement. have a great day my maker friend. cheers J
@@joshuadelisle your welcome. thanks So Much. God Bless.
Really pleased you have got the chance of making one of these I have been collecting parts for one myself. problem I have is I acquired a petrol driven pump and have to convert to electric Bah! at least the neighbours will be happy I haven't gone the power hammer route! lol keep up the videos really appreciate them they all cover what I mess about with 👍
Thank you so much. Cheers J
Josh,
This is a game changer in forging press design
Dave
Thank you Dave, I hope it helps. Cheers J
Joshua, it is so hard forging that life worth living working 12 hours days. you are a welcome beacon of release and inspiration. I am hoping to buy your power hammer plans shortly. All your content is awesome and come away with something. please go back to your roots. as the world collapses in on itself those are the skill the ordinary person will need to survive. thank you
Thank you so much. Definitely having those traditional and primitive skills is important for both self-sufficiency and survival should it hit the fan. I did 12hour night shifts after I lost my old workshop and very slowly kept using my rest days to build up the life we have now. It's hard work but no one else will do it for you. All the very best my friend. Cheers J
hmmm , have a air over hydrailic pump on my 20 ton garagepress , and the pu
mp itself looks verry simulair to the one in the foot operated one , might go take a look if i can convert it to foot operation ..........could put a foot operated aitvalve on it but then i still whont be able to release the ram without taking my hand off the woekpiece to operate the release valve
Those steering wheel spinner knobs would work great on your t-handle.
@joshuadelisle I purchased one of these this week and worked a treat to remove a seized pin. I have found though that the hydraulic oil is leaking from the internal seal quite badly. Have you experienced this at all on yours?
Upon closer inspection the internal bore of the hollow piston hasn’t got the finest machining finish which is probably what’s causing this issue.
It holds under load (as the seal conforms) but leaks when idle.
Be interested in your experience a few months on.
Thank you I'll definitely check mine as I use it. I left the breath hole open when storing it once and it leaked but other than that it's been fine. Cheers J
I'm thinking hydraulic press, Guerin box press or elastoforming press. Similar to how some aircraft parts are made such as wing ribs.
Nice. Cheers J
Excellent! I like the way you do things.
I have a 60ton petrol log splitter that I am contemplating converting to a press.
@@charlescamen5225 that would be awesome. Cheers J
Hello
Thank you for a nice video.
What kind of oil do you use in the pump?
Bought the same pump but cant find What oil type i must use?
Please let me know if you can.
Best regards Tobias
@@Mrdiesel7740 thank you. regular hydraulic oil is ideal. Compressor oil will work the same except it has less lubrication additives. Cheers J
Could you please make a video on your vice metal bending rig. I'm very interested if you build it yourself and how you made it. Or if it's just a tool you bought and how you rate it
Hi. You may be referring to my miracle bender No.3 it's an antique tool. Cheers J
This is amazing stuff, I am about to buy this cylinder and pump, actually 50mm stroke because I think I need smaller cylinder so I can use it on cars to take out bearings. But I will build a press to.
Any advices?!
Also is it necessary to have that air valve on the air hose that is connected to the pump?
Good job man, and thanks a lot for the reply and all the DIY info on your channel!
Another reason why you should pre-heat a huge steel plate before welding, is called "equivalent carbon" (probably not the right term). It is a metallurgy formula that allows you to calculate the hardenability of the heated metal (in that case the weld). The problem with such thick steel is that the carbon is attracted by the weld, and the final weld ends up being much harder than if the plate was thinner because the carbon has more room to go in the weld. I welded recently a 40mm steel plate which was 0.13% carbon, and the carbon equivalent ended up being 0.7% !!!! so this is waaay above the minimum for it to harden. I just learned this a few days ago and i found this fascinating thought i would share !
Thats great information, thank you, what did you use to test the carbon amount? cheers J
@@joshuadelisle i knew it was just a regular construction Steel, so i took the average composition to enter in the formula which ended up in a carbon equivalent of 0,7%
Definitely interested in the steam power plant. But anything you do is very interesting.
Thank you so much. Cheers J
I built a similar one some years ago out of a short ram that 'only' had 20 tons and would still deform my frame with ease. I've had one of these foot pump ones on my Redo list now that I'm a more competent welder, but steel prices have kept me from doing so. Might be about time to slip down to the scrap yard and trade in my pile of aluminum cans!
All the very best my friend. Cheers J
In oe video I got more tips and tricks then in a year of youtube watching. great job. subscribtion well deserved.
Thank you so much. Cheers J
Interesting little gadget. Compressed air to hydraulic. A few valves and cylinders for a backyard backhoe?
You certainly could. Probably needs a larger hydraulic tank for anything serious. You could even have several foot pumps for different actions. Cheers J
Thats realy great. Do we have to use special air compressor or any size? Thx
Any size will do at 100+psi but a bigger one will run the motor less. Cheers J
Awesome video - just what I was looking for. Thanks for posting! :D
Hi mate, interesting video. So no dramas mounting that Ram upside with fluid leakage or air voids above the pump? Do the specs say you can mount it upside down?
Cheers
great video and very interesting content.
the more builds the better
@@charlescamen5225 thank you. Cheers J
love this! specially for pressing logo's in sheet metal.
Hi Joshua, I am planning to build a press to make "techoplancton" for fishing. That is basically different flours and materials pressed dry under high pressure. It really needs 15-20 tons of pressure so it sticks well. I normally use a manual 20 tons bottle jack to make it but want to try an electric solution. Do you think these Vevor tools could handle it reliably?
I've just used mine to forge 90 railing spike tops and bend 100x 316 stainless brackets. So far its been very reliable and theyre very simple but sturdy bits of kit that I've got. i've not tried their electric version yet though, I can only coment on the exact kit I've used. cheers J
@@joshuadelisle Thanks!
What I meant by "electric" that it's not manual (like the bottle jack). The one in your video is using air compressor if I understand well but some folks told me the air compressors are not good enough (don't make enough pressure) and only the oil pump versions are reliable. But those are way more expensive hence I am interested in your opinion. If a 30 TON set (same cylinder and same air powered pump) can do 20 tons of pressure it should work.
@tamasvago87 I believe it does does it very well. Cheers J
first vid of yours ive seen, would definitely like to see more of this and to see a punch and die setup in that thing
Thank you. Definitely something in the future. Cheers J
Make sure that you check the threads if replacing the cylinder fitting , the 700 bar system uses 3/8 NPT
Good tip. Thank you. Cheers J
Thanks for another great video. You mentioned you buy in the old forklift forks for a tenner. I could really use some steel that thick but haven't been able to afford it. Where do you get them from at such a low price? Or have you got any you want to sell? I only need 1 or 2.
Any info would be great. Thanks again
Thank you. A friend gets them for me from a scrap man. They apparently have to replace the tines once they are worn or damaged. If you're in the UK I can maybe get you a contact? Cheers J
Lol I like this I want to bend 2x2 box square tubing and this helps me get an idea of how to do it without 220v or heat. I just need a few 90° bends. I was already thinking about using a manual log spliter and this helps me out with this.
Thank you. Yep this will be great for that. I'm going to make tooling for mine for bar cropping, sheet metal break press, hole punch and die forming. I've even considered using multiple pumps to increase speed and to use on a double acting cylinder. Cheers J
I know this is an older video now but awesome lookining , what's the smallest compressor you think you could run on as I'm thinking about having a go but not much space for a compressor was thinking of a small 24l electric one but not sure it would cope
A little compressor will work fine. It will just be working harder than a larger version. Cheers J
Hi sorry for the questions but just checking as im new to air compressors, the hydraulic pump days it used 5-10cfm as most compressors seem to be about9.6 is that OK or would 14.5 be a lot better, I dont really use a air tools so compressor would really just be for this project.
@@chrislawrence6015 the cfm is how fast it re-fills, a large tank takes longer to fill so a bigger cfm pump is required. It makes no difference to the output which is determined by the psi and diameter of hose. Cheers J
Looking foward to the next plasma table build! 👍
Yes I'm just clearing some space now in preparation. Cheers J
Amazing content, looking forward for that plasma table!!
Thank you so much. Yep plenty to come. Too much really for me to do quickly but it's definitely coming. Cheers J
Joshua, this is very interesting, I’m a fan of Vevor products, and wanted to build a press, this one takes up very little room
Thank you Terry. The UK has limited stock but the USA stock has an amazing selection of different types, I'm super pleased with how compact this version is also. cheers J
@@joshuadelisle Vevor UK do seem to be selling much less 'interesting' stuff recently...
@@richjmaynard you're right, it sucks. Cheers J
Quick noob question, you linked 750w double acting hydraulic power pack in the discription, what are the hydrolic power packs used for? just wondering because i never saw them in the video
So the hydraulic unit I used runs on compressed air but there is an option for an electric motor powered unit instead. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle so this is a different option than the compressed air footpetal? if you got one of the hydraulic pumps do you still need air footpetal? is there any solid differences on how it affects the press? thanks.
@@thenoblesolo4965 you use one or the other. I have a large compressor so an air powered version is cheaper and more compact for me. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle thank you very much for clarifying this for me.
Great video Joshua, it seems its been a while since your videos popped up. I'm very glad to hear about your self sufficiency forged tools. Obviously that's been a goal and long term plan of yours, considering the wood gas generator , steam generator etc. So keep up the great work. Just don't get taken too much by all the "sustainable" talk. And if you hear that in the context of "sustainable development " and "governance" , run for the hills, there is an agenda behind it and you and I and our families are not in the club if ya know what I mean. I have a feeling you already know this stuff though. I've liked the video and I'm gonna share it on my Facebook page. So keep forging a life worth living and I'll see you on the next video.
Thank you so much. Yes absolutely, I am more interested in sustainable self sufficiency which cuts ties with dictatorships in general. Cheers J
Hey you said you get your fork truck tines for about a tenner each. Was that a mistake because I’d love to get my hands on some for ten quid
So my friend works for a scrap dealer and supplies them for me. I would simply ask your local if they can reserve some for youand you pay them the scrap value or a bit extra to make it worth their while. cheers J
@@joshuadelisle thanks man I'll give that a try
Hi Joshua. Where do you get the fork lift tynes from at scrap prices
Scrap man. Cheers J
I want to get the 35 ton hole punch from Vevor, but don't know what power hydraulic pump to get for it. How do you work it out please? Thanks.
It's rated to 10000psi so most of the pumps will produce that but the question is flow rate. The faster the flow rate the faster the punch speed. Most of Vevors pumps are all the same except the electric versions. Cheers J
Also it needs to be single acting not double acting for the punch. Cheers J
Great work, thanks for the info
You should try selling this complete project
Thank you so much. I like to inspire others to build their own and learn new skills. Cheers J
I almost choked on my vape when you said how much (little) you pay for the forklift tines; I mean, a tenner for all that steel?! 😲
I love these _"look at what I built for a fraction of the cost"_ type videos; I just wish I had (or knew someone who did have) random lengths of I-beam and chunks of 12mm plate lying around as scrap. 😄👍
Lol. It's a definite fact that the best deals can't be found on the internet and instead networking with the hidden away underdogs of the industry can find you the best stuff. Note that the I-beam has been lying around in my shed for 12 years and those tines I bought pre covid when prices weren't as crazy. Cheers J
Baker forklifts do some of the best tines as never had a fault once in 20years of scrap yard animals trying to lift 20ton on 3.5 tonight trucks😂
Cheap daint last a week
@@Tattooedfreak _"trying to lift 20 ton on 3.5 ton trucks"_ I've worked with people like that, well, _tried_ to! Do you think they're all related, or at least share a common gene? 🤔😆
@@Loneman_OG maximum stupidity seems to be very common in the workplace.
Look at those in charge tbf most have never picked up more than a pen and they are controlling the job.
Hello. Very nice video. Can I ask - what is the adapter you used to replace the coupling supplied on the jack? Seems there is a lot of choice out there - I don't know too much about hydraulics other than I dont want to be on the wrong end of a bad connection!
Hi. I just used what came with the pump. It has its own adapter connection. Cheers J
Cheers. And quick reply! Ive recently acquired a similar setup, but the pump didnt come with any female coupling part. Anyway, thanks for the info and great video.
@@JonathanWoodrow pioneer tractor or any name brand might work. i used some on my portal power.
Cheers @@HarryPalm-px9gy. I actually found the coupling I was after - search "Male Coupling with Nitrile Seals, NPT, Quick Couplers, Hydraulic Tooling - 3/8"". Vevor annoyingly do a female-connection version, which wont of course fit the ram.
Lovely bit of kit. Fantastic workshop you have.
Thank you Adam. Cheers J
Wow someone else who can free hand with a plasma or a torch. I get so tired of seeing angle grinders cutting through 1/4 thick plate or more when people own torches.
Your content is truly one of a kind. 😃
Thank you. Cheers J
Will this work for stamping sheet metal. Or just forging? I'm looking for a cheap press for stamping out parts.
I will certainly be making punching die holders for it. You get a 35t punch from VEVOR that is very affordable. Depends on the size of cut out you want to make. Cheers J
So say you already have a hydraulic shop press and you wanted to add the air over haydraulic pump to it so it could be used as a forging press. Is that possible with this pump and if so how would you add it to the existing hydraulic cylinder that currently only has a hand pump?
Hi. I have an aircraft jack which is at least 50t by my reckoning. I want to build a pump similar to this one using a short 100mm diameter cylinder and pneumatics. This pump won't be enough but I have considered daisy chaining a few of these pumps together. It would use more air than what the compressor can pump but having a large tank means it will be able to run for a while at a much faster speed. Cheers J
Hi Joshua very impressive build!! I see the cyclinder is single way one, so I guess the return is by means of an internal spring. Is it correct?
Hi, yes that's correct. The spring gives a good retraction speed but enough force for returning hot punches or drifts. Cheers J
Pump . Does it have an internal relief valve?
Yes. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle Is it possible to adjust the maximum oil pressure from this valve?
@@lelearmi6186 possibly I've not tested it. I think a pressure gauge is a good idea to add though. Cheers J
Joshua, with the compact size of this you should consider drilling a hole in the top support so you can use it as a bearing puller too like your demo with the wood. Does the ram automatically retract when you stop depressing the pedal or do you need to turn a release valve. Do you think 2.5 inch mild steel would work in place of the hardened fork lift tines?
I was also thinking it would be pretty easy to make a quick change die for the ram too and incorporate your straightener.
As much as I want to build every cool thing I see I'm limited by budget and time but the simplicity of this is so fantastic and affordable I'm not limited by either! Seems like a nice tool to compress a Damascus billet.
Thank you so much and those are good ideas. I'll definitely create a punching die, brake press, metal shears etc later on. I may also ad a second or even third pump daisy chained together to increase flow rate and get quicker forging speeds. The retraction happens when I engage the pedal forward, otherwise it sits in a neutral position and doesn't move which can be handy for clamping. Cheers J
Appreciate the knowledge you share. Thank you .
A 20 ton press is available in the us for $250 ready built. They are much larger
That's great 👍
Thank you for such a cool build! I loved it and it inspired me to build my own. I got tbe components and metal and will build something similar!
This stuff IS what I'd like to see you make! I'm an aspiring blacksmith, veeeeeeery close to being a journeyman Welder (Red Seal welder in Canada) and have worked in metal fabrication for about 5-6 years and my "long game" goal is to have my own workshop with the tools I need to use all of my knowledge and experience to run a small business. I have an issue that compounds the difficulty of not working with a press or power hammer, I've had heart disease since I was born and had my last open heart surgery 4 years ago so swinging a hammer for ages and ages really wears me down. But my real problem after that, is capital. I don't have the money to be able to afford a small power hammer or even a 6 ton press (lol saw one at Canadian tire, well a log splitter on sale but EVEN STILL). Anyway, yeah finding out ways to make cheap but really useful equipment to get a broke ass bitch like myself burning propane. Keep up the good work, the videos are great!!
Thank you so much. I'll do my best to bring simple and affordable tool ideas. Cheers J
I love seeing tools being used to make more tools.
Thank you Darren. Cheers J
Cracking, informative video. Keep them coming.
Thank you so much. Lots more to come. Cheers J
I’ve been trying to come up with a cheap option to assist me in forging blades and other small projects. I will have to build whatever I choose which means I’ll have to get a welder first… I’ve seen some used, electric wood splitters for pretty cheap. Either I make a powered press or power hammer. If I do the planning right, I could use my belt grinder motor to run the power hammer.. I still have to get a used $100 welder and to learn how to at least do a half decent weld.
I'm glad to see your channel growing.. great job!
Thank you so much. Hopefully this means I can create bigger budget videos for you. Cheers J
But I don't know which form used in power pack for 500 tons two pressure rice which form I can use can you give me detail
@@Ismailshaikh-hd5uv 500 tons is a lot. One of those would be used to forge shafts for power station stators. I think it's a bit overkill for rice. For example you would need something like a 150hp motor to drive the hydraulics which is a very big motor. It depends on how fast you want it to move but you can get away with a small motor and pump if the cylinder is a very large bore and the press die is small to produce 500tons.
Daaaaaamn was hoping you were building a DIY press brake for some reason 😄 nice work as always
That's definitely a tool attachment I can set up. I was going to use a bolster chisel and a couple of round bars to make one. Cheers J
I'm definitely going to make an attachment for that. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle that's awesome, can't wait for that one. Do you still have plans for the respirator mask you've made? Ta
im planing on also making a press, what would i have to do to make it move faster?
Well done. You could double up on the pump or use a narrower cylinder. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle if I get a narrower cylinder would I also loose tonnage?
@@Phaedon yes. You'll be compensating tonnage for speed. If you want high speed and high tonnage then you need a more powerful pump and motor. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle thank you very much
I want to ask you some detail I want to make 500 tons hydraulic machine
I’ve a Sealey Yankee 10 Tonne Hydraulic Shop Press - would this unit power it? Many thanks 🙏
I would be confident that it would, you may need a different fitting/adapter but they're easy enough to get hold of. cheers J
Joshua - you’m a bleddy star! I’ve been asking all the suppliers today via messenger and email and it appears you had already answered positively some 9 hours ago … Whilst none of them know or will apparently … get back to me?
Liked and subscribed 👍
What do you think of the Flowfit Power Packs?
@@davideddy2672 they're very pricey, I considderd buying a diesel hydraulic log spliter just for the parts as they are cheaper than buying just the powepack. cheers j
Well done Josh ,very interesting
Thank you Neil. I Look forward to catching up again sometime soon. I must pop over. Cheers J
great video. love the set up youve made. where do you get the forklift tines from for £10?
They're from a local scrap merchant. They're worn or damaged so have to be replaced as part of policy. Cheers J
Make a shear to chop off thick chunks of metal! cutting up ingots for metal casting is super time consuming and difficult.
Where would a person look to get forklift tines for that price? Thanks
Scrap merchant. If you find a heavy industrial zone their policy is to replace tines that are worn or damaged. Cheers J
When I was doing my blacksmith trade, we used old forklift tynes a lot.
Class video that great idea very well presented.
Thank you so much, I enjoyed making this one a lot. cheers J
where do you get the forklift tines?
@@coffeeoutlaws7783 scrap man. Cheers J
Really enjoy your videos. I wonder whether you would be better with the smaller cylinder for blacksmithing as it would be faster. Real 12t seems to be adequate in most off the shelf “home” type blacksmithing presses?
You could be right, I'll see if I can get another cylinder set to test. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle Great video and thanks for the sources. I was wondering how to speed it up as well. Would a different power pack do the trick? Not sure what spec would need changing I'm guessing greater GPM flow? I've had some I-Beam laying around forever might give this a go.
Well done Josh keep em coming
Thank you. Cheers J
I consisdred converting a log splitter, to achieve the same result. Dammit man I love DIY....
30 ton log splitters starts at £2.5K bit more than £300...
Ahh the price difference is insane between the UK and where I live (USA - TN) I found a used 32T for 350$ when I was looking. Good on you for supplying the DIY alternative. Cheers m8
Nice job I could see that absolutely coming in handy.
Thanks Rob. It sure will. Cheers J
When you said you would heat up the old fork to release the energy, what did you mean.
You might have misheard that, which part was it on the timeline? And I will elaborate for you. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle
It was 7:18 but now I've rewatched it again i understand its heated before welding so not to take the heat out of the weld.
Makes sense now, I watched it after finishing work at 5am i was half asleep, that's my excuse anyway 😂
Thanks for your quick reply 👍
@@bobp6742 well done 👍, all the best. Cheers J
11cfm is a flow rate that no single phase compressor will cope with. Demonstrated by how much it slows as the load goes up.
Log splitters are fast because they have a much faster pump rate.
My compressor is 15cfm single phase 3hp 150ltr. Cheers J
You’ve done well. I’ve not hound anything that good with a single phase motor.
@@Dave5843-d9m I think the Clarke boxer 2 is £588 Inc VAT. Cheers J
@@Dave5843-d9mI-R makes many in the states; sells many my 5 hp is24 cfm at 90 psi single phase 2 stage pump $1100.
Do we wanna see it????.........yes, without nay reservation this 30 tons is awesome......I have a 10 ton shop type press and now I'm fitting a hydraulic pump unit to it.
Awesome thank you. Cheers J
Some quick math says that this setup will max out at 26.5T if the cylinder ram diameter is 2.6in & the pressure reaches the 10000 psi limit.
Very nice compact one ! I can't find 120x50mm steel in EU :(
@@HelloYohan it's from a scrap fork truck tine. Check with a local scrap merchant if they can put some to one side for you. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle Thats a good idea ! thank you
How about modifying a portable sack / bag sewing machine into a walking foot leather/ canvas sewing machine with a little stand to mount it on..the bag seamers are like $80..they will sew thru tin cans as is..Cheers..
Sounds interesting. I've actually just got a hand sewing machine for stitching up something for my PAPR system. Cost me £13. I'll look into the bag sewing machine if you think they're useful. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle it could be a very popular option for leather crafting and even boaters as sewing machines that can handle thicker materials are crazy expensive..the bag seamer is a walking foot design but has the wrong locking stitch I believe..maybe possible to modify the ribbon / timing maybe to have a different stitch..Vevor sells them too..maybe you can get one to review? And tinker with..Cheers..
@@agentcovert I'll check em out. Cheers J