Bombardier DS650 Trail Test! The Renegade 1000's Sportier Older Brother...
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2022
- Flying Brian got his hands on Bombardier DS650 so we could continue our mission of testing every ATV ever built! In this video we see how it compares to it's closest competition in the Raptor 700 and consider how it was the pre-curse to CanAm's Renegade 1000.
Huge thanks to Eric from The ATV World for helping me with this one:
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Just got mine running properly and I have to say I absolutely love it. I'm 6'1" and 220 and it fits me perfectly. They should never have stopped production of these and should definitely bring them back!
Heck yeah! You're the perfect size for this thing too..
@@DirtObseXXion Any idea of the best year of ds650?
@@ric2267any year their all awesome I have one personally no complains I love it
@@ric2267 01 my opinion less ugly looking stronger a arms tie rods only bad thing that ever broke on a DS cause they were built to be cross country racers so basically tanks was the shift forks.
@@That__mxc550 I still love my 01 had it for a very long time. It turns heads everywhere. They don’t make bikes like these anymore. They were once the fastest sport quad you could buy.
I owned one of these about 8 years ago, so much fun . No reverse was annoying at times but I had alot of good memories on that bike.
I'm glad I got to experience it, it was super fun and way different from anything else I've ridden!
We had two in camp through the early 2000s in the Glamis sand dunes. They were great quads but it seemed like the group steered more towards the Raptor 700 at the time because it just felt lighter and more maneuverable in the sand. In today’s market with sport quads not being made other than Yamaha that quad is definitely a keeper!
Yeah the Raptor is definitely better, but in retrospect the ds was pretty damn cool..
@@DirtObseXXion Yes sir!
@@DirtObseXXion and it dominated in its natural habitat. Cross country. DA BOMB!
Ds 650 stomps the raptor. Ur likely just shrimp that couldn't handle that nasty mother.
The DS650 is a legendary Quad that combines an (All in one Quad), i personally owned three of them and cant compare them to any other Quads, coz it's a unique design from A to Z and way different from any Quad or ATV; it's like riding a Camel in the desert or trails. I loved the DS very much and definitetly wish to see a new release with a better look, EFI and more horsepower...
That's awesome! You're right, it doesn't compare to anything else.. And Bombardier deserves a lot of credit for bringing this to the market when the market was pretty bare.. It made sense that they marketed it for dunes, but it's super fun on wider trails too..
I have 3. 2001,2003, and a 2005 and I love them. I’m only 134 lbs and I have no problem steering. I originally bought 1 but I was tired of waiting for the other riders to catch up to me so I bought a couple more. Well worth the money.
That's awesome! It's a killer machine!
Didn’t even know it existed. Thanks for the review, love the history on the older quads
You don't see many of them.. Bombardier/CanAm didn't have the dealer network in the 2000s that they do now..
My quad!!!! 5 years deep of pure abuse, michigan trails, dunes, and motocross tracks. I'm 6 foot 165 and it took me a bit to find her limits lol. Twist grip converted, tuned, same pipe as in this video, over-rev box, steering stabilizer, and some huge balls. Thanks so much for reviewing this quad.
That's awesome!!! We've had a blast with it..
I have owned mine since 2009. It's the one quad I will never sell. It's a fantastic all around quad. And for big guys like myself, 6 ² , 285lbs. It fits like a glove.
There is absolutely nothing that could replace this thing for a guy your size!
How is the reliability? And maintenance? Parts easy to source?
@@nv854reliability is very very good if their no molested maintenance is very very easy but parts... Parts are not the easiest to get
Great review! Thanks for this one!
Man you guys are killing it with great sport quad reviews, thank you thank you thank you! I bought a Raptor over the DS650 back in the day and always wondered if the grass was greener
Thanks brother!! I wouldn't say the grass was greener, but it might have been a little thicker 😁
Love my ds650! 5’9 - 235lbs and she kicks dirt like im 100 lbs wet. Beat on it like its stolen and she still purs like a kitty. Thanks for the vid.
I have a 2002 DS650 baja... I was looking for a quad and I did the research I found the raptor 700R and this DS650 fit for mi research but I noticed that this tank was for me.... the stabilization, confidence, big gas tank, horse power and a lot of custom details you can make it... this machine is giving me a lot of fun and start to jumping with it and it does a very good job. It's not only an amazing machine... you look super cool on it
You get any more jacked and the DS can ride you, brother. 🤜🤛
Btw, the DS was amazing. It would make your cheeks pucker. Had power everywhere but felt heavier than the Big Bear I had at the time. And, imo, it put Bombardier on the map and made people pay attention for the first time. Very well could have been the thing that made the company expand to what it is now, though sales may not indicate it due to its weird looks, size, and weight (traxter was no different).
Dunno. Mad respect to it.
It's definitely a cool machine... A little more gym time and I might be able to lift that front end! 💪
I have to agree. The DS650 was a great shot that missed the target. The last one I rode was really fun, but it ended up getting an R1 engine transplant and became an extreme drag racer. With some updates and additions, it could be a standout in a bare market.
Dang an R1 engine??? 😲
@@DirtObseXXion that thing moved out. 💨
It won alot of dirt drags and ice drags back in MN. My friend "Renegade" Mike was the pilot.
@@SQUARE1SpeedChannel That's killer!
Great video on this piece of atv history. Definitely a unique machine.
Thank you brother!
Did not get a chance to ride it, but sitting on it feels like a plush UTV - so comfy. But I will say, the GoPro made this video :D
Thanks again dude! See y'all next time!
At that time, early 2000, I tried the DS. Was fast, plush and reliable but the 2003 Banshee special edition was too. The definition of fire roads just seems to make a lot more sense 😅 on the pipes at 80+ mph. Brand new 0 mile on it and already paid with the bike FMF, pro design, AC racing, Big pegs nerfs. A clean build from 2003. I like that you do a review of these retro quads. Your channel is awesome💪
Thanks brother! Yeah we've had our share of Banshees, no contest there.. This was my first ride on a DS tho, just never saw too many in our area..
I remember seeing one for the first time, I loved the look of them and still do. Have never got to ride one though
We'll have to change that if this one sticks around long enough.. She needs a little tlc to get back to true form tho..
I’ve had mine for 21 years. Most bulletproof sportquad ever made in my opinion. Mine probably has close to 15k miles and the engine has never been opened further than a routine valve adjustment.
I found out about these a few years ago and they have always intrigued me. Bombardier up until recently was never really sold here in the south the brand was actually pretty well hated here so its cool to see these videos. BRP is starting to get very popular here because of the SXS models
That was a good review of the bike I used to have a 2007 ds650 baja x with a rons wood racing big bore kid and full system I was only 16yr when I bought it in my 20s now and I regret selling it more and and more every year 💯👌
My favorite quad of all time. confort, power, quality, looks
It's a badass 🤘
I'm planning on buying a used one. Thank you for the video
I thought this was a really cool quad when I first saw it in the trails, definitely a unique sport quad.
Pretty cool machine for sure!
Great review. It is a machine that does not fit every rider, but it is still a great machine. We must respect can am because they tried something different than the other brands, back when they released the DS 650.
Hey brother!! Yes what they did with the DS was definitely cool, especially when you consider that this machine was developed even before the 400ex was released. I read an article where Bombardier said they started developing the DS in 96. So they weren't taking design ques from anything else on the market really...
I never got one back in my atv days because they were too big for the East Coast trails i rode. Now I wish I could buy a new one with modern updates done to it.
Bravo best atv channel on UA-cam!
Thanks man! Somehow that compliment just hits harder from a dude with the perfect username 👌 🤣🤣🤣
Another great vid...Remember when these came out and dirtwheels tested the raptor 660/400ex and the DS...I believe there biggest complaint was the kenda tire it came with if I remember correctly
Yes! They did a few shootouts with it back in the day, the Raptor 660, 400ex, Cannondale, banshee.. There was a few of them.. I couldn't tell ya about the tire complaint.. But I thought they came with ITPs, I could be wrong tho..
Pretty cool machine for sure.
Thanks Rick!
I own a 2006 baja X, I'm 5'9" 180lbs and I gota say I absolutely LOVE it. It was always my favorite/dream machine ever since it was launched. I love it for all the reason most people hate it, it's big and heavy and nasty. Has unbelievable power that wants to go straight. And torque for days when you want the front to come up. I dont find any issue at all getting it to swing around in tight trails. Unlike the Raptor 700 I found was way to unpredictable when you give it gas to go straight you were looking at the tree tops had to send way to much effort to keep the front on the ground. I for one wish they would bring them back. I remember reading in a dirt wheels magazine they retired it after 2007 because that's when Yamaha switched the raptor to fuel injection. The DS650 was the first ever big bore racer and went 7 years nearly unchanged and undefeated. So rather than changing it from carb to EFI as Yamaha was they decided to retire it after 7 years with the original and undefeated title big bore title.
It's the only ATV I've come across that when I let people ride it they come back very quickly because it scared the living daylights out of them or comments like "that should not be even legal to create, absolutely insane" haha 😍
Lol! That's awesome brother! It sure would be cool to have them around still
Greetings from Germany, i have a Baja X from 2005 and it runs perfectly! In Germany you can run that Beast Streetlegal full powered and it runs about 140KM/H (86MpH +). Eyecatcher...
I love it and build an FCR 41 Carburetor on the Machine, Thumbs up!
Awesome! Thanks for checking it out!
Keeping sport quads alive! I love you guys!!! I want to be your friend.
Lol! You got it Ronald! Although you might want to reconsider if you actually meet us 👊🤣🤣🤣
Nice vid!
Thank you!
The best wheelie quad I've ever had, Especially with Ron Woods upgrades.....Ride it all day
That's a heavy front end to bring up! Very cool tho, thanks for checking out the vid!
I’ve been waiting for this one, I used to have one of these.
It's a great machine, im really glad we got our hands on one..
That ds is sweet! Never had a chance on one. But idk, those guns stole the show. 💪🏻💪🏻 Very distracting..,🤣🤣. Another great video🤘🏻
Lol! It was definitely sweet! But hopefully I'm back behind the camera where I belong for the next one!
As a DS650 owner I love it. It's shocking to those that don't know, but they whoop up on a lot of modern quads like you wouldn't see comming. It likes to walk of on most haha. Thanks for the vid. Motivation to get her back together.
Thanks for checking this out brother! Those who know, know!
Still whooping them, took mine to a drag race and smoked them all. Few months ago Raptors 660/ 700r. 450 drag YFZ. And some older 3wheelers 350 /250r. Thing is a beast
Yea they are amazing my dad bought his new and still has it running perfect it's perfect if you're a bigger rider way more comfortable then almost and other sport quad
I had seen a few of them around my area when I was growing up, but only knew one guy who had one. I remember thinking how cool it looked, compared to everything else. I was definitely huge compared to my 300EX. I saw one last year in a local trail. It was pretty whooped. Missing the front fenders, and rears were warped. No lights and very bald holeshot tires. It wasn't treated well in its life, but it was still running, lol.
They are almost universally treated poorly! It's very rare to see a really really nice one..
My cousin raced his Ds650 Baja in the early 2000's in the 12hr Endurance in La Tuque Quebec :) I was a teenager and the time and always wanted one ever since, in 2019 I found one roughly 5 hours away from my hometown in Ottawa Ontario, I couldn't find anything that was in good shape, found one 5 hours away in mint condition, spent about 3000$ in it, bushings, sprockets, chain, bearings, slip on, jet kit and rode it for about a year, I ended up selling due to lack of parts :( if it wasn't for that I def would of kept it, thing was an animal on wide open fast trails, was running CST Pulse tires 22'' rears and 23'' fronts giving it a slight edge on the top end factory sprockets, not that much on acceleration however it was hitting 80mph and still had some left, Awesome machine just a pain to get parts for it, if you guys are interested I have a few videos of it, nothing crazy but its on my channel :) I'm on a 2022 outlander 650 now but if you look at my older videos you'll find the Ds650 :)
Awesome! I'd love to get this one prestine but like you said, it's hard to find parts! I'll definitely check your vids out!
I have a ‘07 model, bought it for dune playing (I live in So Cal) as I have a four and a two stroke dirt bikes I enjoy, but didn’t take long to enjoy the DS650 in the trails as well as the dunes.
Awesome! I was wondering how these would do in the dunes since they're so heavy.. Definitely a unique and fun machine! Thanks for the comment!
fun story i just re-bought my ds650 today. i sold it 6 years ago to help with a house down payment. i had to be an adult and it was the right thing to do. Today i noticed the guy i sold it to was selling it so i bought it back from him. so i have my baby back and my world is right again. now i just need the snow to melt.
Awesome! Glad to hear it!
It's so great to see another ds650 in such great condition
Heck yeah! Very unique machine, we still have it.. It needs some work but parts are really hard to find.
@@DirtObseXXion tell me about it, took me 4 months to get all the parts just to get it ready for racing
@@ghost_wolf_2146 Oh damn, you're racing it!?! That's awesome!
@@DirtObseXXion Went to my first race with it and my dad. I crashed and couldn't do my race, but my dad took 2nd and their was another ds650 in the race. On thing that was damaged was an original sticker on one of the hand guards.
Im 5'10 and 133 lb, ive been riding this quad 6 years now and i can handle it very well now, so much fun in this quad in baja california mexico
That's awesome!!!
The main competitor for the DS was the 660 it came out one year before the raptor did. And still whooped it’s ass. It’s a piece of history. I’ve owned two and it’s a very unique and special bike. Wouldn’t trade the one I have now for anything. ROTAX POWER BABYYYY
dudeeee thats awesome!! i've always watched videos and heard about the DS650, still ain't got to ride one
It's a big ole girl!!!! Thanks Lando!
I bought it new in 2000. Still have it and love it.
That's awesome!
Just love the reliability on my ds650
Being a big asf guy I agree on that quad being meant for us 😂
I had a 2005 ds 650x, and rode the crap out of it. I've had a few mishaps, that was driver error. I rode it for 12 years before selling it.
That thing was bad ass and still ran strong. You had to do something stupid to flip it. It was a very solid machine
Awesome! 12 years is a heck of a run..
Freakin love this channel
Thanks brother!!! 🤘
Owned mine since 2009. Wanted one since 2004. Will never sell it. It's hydro dipped in digital camo now. You learn to live without reverse. Love talking to people about it. They've never seen them.
Reverse definitely isn't a deal breaker.. It's a great and unique quad that I'm glad we got to experience.. They're very rare around our area
A ridin buddy bought a new one back in the day.. Not a bad machine.. 👍
#savesportquads
#makeatcsgreatagain
Pretty darn cool 😎 👌
awsome Vid
Thanks!
I had one as a kid being 115 pounds trying to whip this thing was truly a enjoyable fight, whenever I rolled it it was the biggest pain ass to flip it back over, I felt like a big man but I was not.
Lol! Quite a beast!
I haven't ever shredded one but the minute I set on it... Felt like a jet ski for sand. Should probably give it a sand test just to see if it sticks up to it's name!
It's love on the ole buttox!
I never got to try one of those. I remember the 450 version of it, though a lot of people used to race them, Can you guys do a video on the Suzuki LT-R 450 that thing was a beast 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I have 3 of them and I love them. Fun powerful and reliable
Wow 3? Sweet!
Hell yeah !!!! The video i have for waiting a long time 🤩🤩🤩
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🤩👌👌 Nice, Now I am from the netherlands 😅, can i send a you a message?
@@mattijsleerink6740 Do not contact this dude.. It's a scam, he stole our icon.
@@DirtObseXXion Yes I already had that idea, you had no action
I wanted one so bad when they first came out, I couldn’t afford it and bombardier interest was 17%
Dang! People probably make dumber decisions with SXS financing nowadays tho.. Ive heard of some pretty bad choices 🤣🤣🤣
OK never mind you guys did make a video on the Suzuki LT450R 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
such a different quad
Gosh brings back memories when that thing came out! I used to subscribe to atv action and dirtwheels of course . I need to get all my issues out of the shed that are still in good condition lol. Wish I’d have put the one with Brett Favre ( fav-er) (fight me ) lmao
In a plastic ziplock bag where he tested the “new” 1998 Yamaha grizzly 600. I liked reading the drag racing info on the sport machines.
Thanks Joe! Hey can you shoot me an email when you get a chance? Dirtobsexxion@gmail.com
@@DirtObseXXion I sent a reply bud not sure if it worked
i have that issue! ive got hundreds of magazines. atv action, atv magazine, atv sport, quad etc. not to mention dirt bike, street bike and car magazines too in fact, i have every issue of dirt wheels since july 1999 and have been a continuous subscriber since feb 2000. ive bought many issues from the 80s and 90s too.
@@powersportsenthusiast1986 ohhhh man nice ! Lol . Unfortunately I let a lot of mine sit in plastic barrels like a dummy and get moisture on them and ruined them . I sure regret not storing them properly . That’s a nice collection you have , dry store them for someone in the future to realize the real fun we had while they’re only allowed to use their electric hover board Lolol.
@@joekearney mine are in dresser drawers lol. the rest are in rubbermaid type bins lol
Time for the DS450X 😎
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I tore the Ganaraska forest up with 1 4 a few yrs 😎
I saw one of these on the sand with a hayabusa. He called it a bombabusa. Absolutely destroying drag sand rails
Sick!
rode one a while ago. at 5'9 160 pounds it felt like a utility quad. let's not forget the bump steer. almost crashed a few times because of it
She's a big ole girl, that's for sure.. Definitely feels like a utility, more so than other sport ATVs anyway..
When these came out a guy was racing a 2000 model in arenacross and outdoor mx. It was all 400ex's and that guy on the DS. I still remember that guy jumping the infield double in ax. That thing landed like a ton of bricks. One night he wrecked it off that jump and rolled. I wish I remember or knew what happened to him. I think he raced it for a year and a half. I don't know for sure if he quit altogether or got a 400ex.
I can't imagine trying to sling one of these around a MX track!! That's pretty cool tho, must've been fun to watch..
Anyone see that sick yellow ltr450 at 6:23, shew that thing is beautiful 😍
A majestic beast for sure 🤘.. Cool meeting you fellas! Gonna have to do it again sometime soon
How is the long term reliability? Maintenance schedule? I want to get a used one
Another stellar video bud…..have you guys ever rode a DS450xxc
Thanks Ron! Nope, almost had one a short while back but it didn't work out...
I’ve owned 2- DS650’s(still have an ‘01). Its been a great quad! But, like u stated- it’s Achilles heels are no reverse & it’s weight. Regardless, I think Can-Am should make a new, improved version of this machine!
great video! just curious if you know what horse power was on this machine stock?
I couldn't find a reliable claim so I didn't include it in the video but what I read was 71hp at the crank but 41-43 on a dyno.. When this one was new it had the cams done, a cdi box, jets and we put a new exhaust on because the one that came on it was shot... I'd say low to mid 40s was a pretty legit claim stock. This may have a touch more but some of it is robbed by time and weight..
@@DirtObseXXion wow very cool thank you!
I find one in absolut awesome condition,how much is something like that worth.very low hours on it looks like new
Are you going to the IXCR rd. 7 in 2 weeks? I’m gonna be there with my friend who races A-class bike in the PM races on sundays. Hopefully we can find each other!
I'm sure the Viking will be there. Ne and Flyin Brian might be depending on weather and stuff.. We like to ride our ADV bikes out to the races..
Sweet! Just gotta hope the dirt is nice and moist, but not swampy!😁
Agree with most of this video. Especially it’s handling in the wide open logging road trails - simply no better handling sportquad to ride on wide open dirt roads. It is not great in tight trails as mentioned, but still plenty ridable. And No offense to the rider here, but he makes the front end seem much heavier than it really is. I’m not nearly as big as him and I can dead lift the front end of mine into a standing position without too much trouble.
Thanks! This one has a "custom" front bumper that adds some weight for sure, but I guess the point I was trying to make was it's much much heavier than any other quad.. I legitimately wouldn't try picking up the front end by myself.. But I ain't what used to be..
@@DirtObseXXion definitely way heavier than any other sportquad aside from maybe the kfx700. great video and review of the DS though. This sportquad is a forgotten gem. With all the current inflation that has occurred in the used sportquad market, the DS can still be found for a very reasonable price in comparison to the more common sportquads. They are absolute tanks in terms of reliability, and a few minor mods to the oem carb (“OMR” stock carb mods”) and pipe unleashes a lot of power this engine hides in factory form. These rotax engines can run over 20k miles before needing a rebuild. If you don’t believe that, just check out the mileage on some older bmw funduro f650’s and you will find many are still running with that type mileage on them. You will absolutely never find a 450r that can rack up that kind of milage without needing a rebuild.
@@S4NORICE I believe that 100%, the one we have has been abused and it runs ridiculously strong after 20years. I almost bought a much nicer one a few years ago for 3500, I wish I had now.
If I recall bombardier first rebranded to brp and produced the first gen outlanders the 400 the 440xt etc. Then switched to can am which I think was done purely to bring it more to the American consumers.
I’m just glad Canada is still the first part of the name lol.
Sounds right.. From what I read it was a departmental division of the company.. Canam being powersports and Bombardier focusing on aircraft.. It was definitely a good move though, CanAm really took off after that.. Im seeing almost as many Spyders and Rykers in Kentucky as Harley's.. Which is saying a lot for this area. Harley's to any other motorcycle is like 50:1
@@DirtObseXXion you guys definitely do your research and put out good honest content that I enjoy. Keep it up.
You guy should do a vintage 4x4 shootout get some old 1985-1995 era 300cc bikes like the FORTRAX the king quad the Kawasaki bayou the big bear etc. Throw some 27 inch Zillas on them and see who the king of vintage 4x4s
I’ve ridden a lot of sport bikes and I can say the Ds is my top for sport quad, but only problem is they don’t make parts and the parts are impossible to find so I had to get rid of it and got a outlander not as sporty but I love it just as much.
It's true, parts are super hard to find.. It's a unique machine fore sure.. Nothing quite like it
That's why everyone swaps the motors out. I been thinking about putting a maico 700cc 2 stroke motor on mine when the motor fails. The sprocket is on the correct side too.
Definitely an odd duck with the right side chain & mounted front fenders ! Sat plush for sure , But wow no reverse , ouch ….
Thanks Mikey!!
I’d love to see that Rotax in a usable frame. You’ve got me wanting to ride that thing before she goes on the market.
I have one. Everyone looks at it, i feel like a ferrari owner!
Lol! Yeah, not many around anymore
I ain't seen one of these quads in a long time
They're rare in our area..
To answer your question on why there was no reverse in 2004 during a brp annual dealer meeting they asked us what we would like to see on the DS and everyone said a reverse gear the tech then asked us anybody ever take a DS tranny apart nobody in the audience raised their hand the tech said if we ad a reverse gear the existing gears would have to be slimmer wich would probably just blow up from the shear torque that rotax produced
Interesting info! I figured it was because the engine and tyranny were originally designed for a motorcycle..
Like you said, the reverse gear on the DS would have made it more competitive with the Raptor. Unfortunately, I don't think Can-Am had much interest in the Sport market.
True. This thing was pretty ahead of it's time but it missed a few marks and was primarily marketed to the West Coast. I'd love to see CanAm make another go at the sport market with the new single they have.. I doubt it would be happen but I know I'd be grabbing one!
Met a guy at St. Anthony with 4 cylinder bike motor in one. He claimed it was the chassis for such a transplant. It ripped up Choke Cherry.
Yeah Square 1 said his buddy put a R1 motor in one...
My buddy had one for a limited time and I thought it was a comfy quad but way too impractical for tight woods riding. The no reverse thing is like not having valet parking in front of an emergency room…..like why!?
Suns out guns out bro 😎
So true! Heck yeah brother, I been sculpting on the guns so I had to let em breathe 💪
@@DirtObseXXion would love a shoot out between the ds 650 and the kfx 700
@@brutelife9177 Been looking for a KFX700, it's on the list for sure.. Haven't found the right one yet though..
Tall Stance. Is it top heavy like the 700r?
Kind of, it feels different though, because it's so much heavier, wider, and you're sitting down it more like a 4x4 ATV. It almost feels more renegade like than Raptor like.. But the weight is definitely higher than a 450 class sport ATV.
nice quad but i like my trx450r also no reverse but a shit load of fun
It's different
You still rising the dirt bike?
The Dirt bike? We have some adventure bikes, Flying Brian has a Tenere 700 and I have an Africa Twin.. We ride them all the time, FB had a Crf230 but he ended up selling it
Can y’all do a review on the Honda TRX700
I hope so, eventually.. We've got a few more to do before we start adding more machines but I'd definitely like to do the xx
What does the power feel like compared to a 850 outlander ?
It feels like a different power plant for sure.. The Outlander power hits harder in the low end, the DS comes to life in the mid range.. Peak power is higher in the rpms than I expected but it definitely has some ponies, especially considering its weight.. I read 71hp at the crank and low to mid 40s on a dyno stock.. This one isn't stock tho. It had a cam, cdi box, jet and exhaust done when it was new.. Upper 40s to low 50s is probably a reasonable claim for this one.. My 2020 Raptor with a big 3 definitely feels more powerful but it's also a lot lighter..
@@DirtObseXXion thanks for the info
@@DirtObseXXion 71 at the crank? if it had that where'd the rest go before it got the wheels? the quad has (as advertised when new) 48hp at the crank, low 40s at the wheels stock.
@@powersportsenthusiast1986 makes more sense.. I had read it somewhere and it was obviously off, but 48 to low 40s is pretty dang efficient delivery.. Thanks for the inject
@@DirtObseXXion the number 54hp at the crank was being thrown around back then too, but either way the machine does make about what you said stock, low to mid 40s. ps could you really not lift the front? you LOOK like you could
Bombardier please return maybe come back as a 750!!!!! And also please make a two-stroke bombardier version 500 cc!!!!!
Making me regret my purchase are you now
Also how would you feel if the relaunch it with the 850 but with a cvt with promise of a manual to come
Cvts and twins don't belong in pure sport machines.. Although if any ATV could handle a big twin it would be this one 💯
You guys should do a Honda fourtax recon vs Kawasaki brute force 300
I wish all the company's would go back to building ATVS again!!! there's a market for them ..we all cant afford $20,000 sxs ,,but we all want to ride!!!!
You couldn't give me a SXS.. With this job, I have had the opportunity to drive a bunch of them and I used to be a SXS/UTV instructor for first responders.. As a recreational machine, they have zero appeal to me.. Riding always beats driving.. Quads disappearing is a national tragedy 😔
I’m a Yamaha snob buttttt….I’ve always wanted one of these more then a Raptor. ☺️
I love my Raptor but the DS650 was an awesome experience.. If they still made em, I'd have a new one..
@@DirtObseXXion
Hey man what’s this “I’ve been selected from a shortlist of winners for a giveaway? And to txt a number? Is this a entering to win the DS y’all featured a while back?
@@DirtObseXXion
Hey man are you msgn me right now? About winning a trx 450?
I have two of them, parts are hard to find I’m looking for shims for both of mine. Both of them are 2001’s.
That's cool! We need to some work yet on this one.. Have a feeling it's going to be tough
@@DirtObseXXion make sure you bleed the oil and use wet clutch oil only. Nice bike I have. Yellow one and the black one can’t wait to get them running they run about 80-85 my buddy let me ride his 04 DS650 Baja x it’s a best I got a after market racing cdi for mine. Mines mint just needs a steering stem and front a arms upper and lower aye never sell your bike there rare! Look up how to bleed the oil on a DS650 it’s crucial!
@@DirtObseXXion if you need any help let me know I know a lot about them! Iv spent almost more a year researching parts and info about the ds650 it it’s a bmw f650 motor from 1997-2000 but not all the parts are the same like cams and stuff like that
@@allthrottlemotors4963 Thanks brother, I definitely appreciate that.. I've heard about the oil bleeding, isn't there an indicator light that comes on if there's air in the system?
@@DirtObseXXion your welcome! and yes but that light controls three things there’s some Diagrams online that will show you where it all goes to
Ohhh the 1970’s porno music! 🎶
You know you love it!
@@DirtObseXXion I must admit it 🍆
You guys should do the kfx700!!!!
I know it, if we ever find a nice one we will!
@@DirtObseXXion nice ones are few and far between! Hopefully you guys find a nice one! What state are you guys based out of?
@@evantucker1590 Kentucky.. ive found nice ones but the price was too steep.. We gotta be able to flip em in order to keep making videos
@@DirtObseXXion that’s cool! I’m out of West Virginia. That’s true, gotta keep the lights on! Kentucky has some good riding, I like hitting up Rush a couple times a year.
lol what's revers gear? lol
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I won’t buy anything other than another ds650 it’s imo the best quad made
I hated the looks of these things back in the day. Low rpm made it so boreing to ride. My buddy had one of these and I had a raptor. The ds was just to heavy to feel like sport qaud. Everyone I saw on them was a big guy! I always felt that’s all they were good for
I definitely agree.. I like the look of them now, but it's because they're unique and nostalgic.. They are definitely HUGE and not for everyone.. But it was still a fun experience, even if it's not a good Raptor replacement
@@DirtObseXXion yeah man! It was fun video since it has been along time since I’ve seen one. Glad you guys are doing these reviews!