My First Ride on a Bombardier DS650!
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- Big shout out to Ted for letting me ride his super clean 2003 Bombardier DS650! It was a totally unique experience. The drivetrain and power delivery are unlike any other quad I've ridden. I enjoyed the comfortable ergonomics and it actually cornered better then I expected! I'm very grateful to have ridden one of the coolest big bore sport ATV's ever made!
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0:00-0:46 Intro
0:47-2:31 DS Walk Around
2:32-10:17 Test Ride
10:18-12:37 Ride Reaction
12:38-14:09 Outro
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These quads were first sold under the company name of Bombardier. Then they were sold as "BRP" which stood for Bombardier Recreational Products. Finally the name was changed to Can Am which was the name of their MX bikes back in the 1970's. I seem to remember the the "DS" stood for Dune Sport when these first came out.
Very cool history! Thanks for sharing, I've never heard of the DS standing for Dune Sport but it makes sense! 😊
And they wear total kings until the raptor came along.
Man i love these Dune Sports
I’ve heard dune slayer too
I had one they are Cadillacs of the quads comfortable ride all day
I rode one of these 20 years ago at 15 years old.
It was bored over among other things and had the loudest exhaust I've ever heard on a bike to this day. At 15 I was hooked. Hit 4th on a straight and that was the start to a speed addiction. I've looked for one ever since specifically in the orange color.
04 baja orange, There is one in Ludington Michigan for 3.6K
@@travischaddock4826 I got one for sale and mINT! I put 1 more tooth ⚙️ on the front sprocket and it changed EVERYTHING for the BETTER on machine. We just don’t ride our quads and they just sit… I hope to find a person who rides, enjoys (the JOY of ride, wash, & repeat), respects and plans to keep it for the long haul. Mine is ALL STOCK (besides gearing). I put new tires on in 2007 and they are 50% now. 2016 got a new piston and valves didn’t need ANYTHING (not even an adjustment) and to add the ROTAX ENGINES are quiet as a church mouse that HAVE ON DEMAND TORQUE! 3k
You can say it was the 2004 YFZ450, the 2002 Cannondale 440, or the 1999 Honda 400ex...but it was the Bombardier DS650 which was the first production Quad that showed a 4 strokes true potential, and got people into riding them.
Raptor 660
@@henochjonker2225 While the Raptor was a true commercial success for a liquid cooled 4 stroke quad. DS650 had 2-3 years on the market before the Raptor 660 came to be. Had it not been for CanAm, the Raptor 660 may have suffered a short lived production run. Same can be said for the DS650, had Honda not produced the 300/400ex.
@@josefrobbins8781 When it comes to true sport quads Yamaha and Honda would never be dethroned.
love to see a TRX 700 review !
I would love to ride one! I see them from time to time. Hopefully I'll get the opportunity sooner than later 😅👍
@@PeteHager yes! Totally.
Friend had one as a light rider with IRS not great on the Handling at all, lol.
Had all the torque tho
Agreed, picked one up last season and I’ve been blown away with how rowdy and capable it is, would also love to see it reviewed
I have ridden all bikes and the trx700 is one of my favourite bike, its independent suspension is great for bumps but it does not handle that great but once you learn to drift it right it will stick with the other bikes
@@PeteHager my dad has on it’s a quick machine but it’s a really heavy one and the independent suspension is great for handling rocky stuff my dad loves it
For wide open dirt road riding, this is hands down my favorite sport atv. Yes, rev limiter comes a bit too quick on the OEM cdi box, big gun or Ron Woods rev box makes it a whole new animal - really widens the rpm range. This quad gets more criticism than it deserves. Most critics don’t like its size and weight on a track or tight woods riding which is a fair complaint, but that’s simply not what they were made to excel at.
However, get this quad in a big open space such as long winding dirt logging roads and it handles and rides incredibly stable at high speeds. And the best part is my hands and feet aren’t numb like they are after riding a 450 at crazy high rpms all day on the same roads. The motor will also far outlast a 450 motor. There are bmw motorcycles with this engine that have well over 30k miles on stock internals. Find me a 450 motor that can go that distance without a rebuild - you won’t! My brand new 2012 yfz grenaded in a year riding it at high rpms on wide open dirt roads. My DS has been riding the same wide open dirt roads for over 2 decades without a rebuild. Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love the 450 bikes.
Appreciate you giving it a fair review coming from a 450, most riders like to bash the DS.
@@S4NORICE I just put 1 more tooth ⚙️ front sprocket and mine is MINT
love it when pete hager uploads
Man that thing looks like it really boogies for it's size! And it's pretty cool seeing the fenders turning back and forth and going up and down lol
The Bombardier is a dependable machine that runs the same all rear around! The short shifting is cuz the gear ratio all it needs is one more tooth on the front!!! I have one and it’s a great machine especially after ILLINOIS POWERSPORTS freshened it up!!
Thanks for getting back to me! Ur a dependable dude and ALWAYS give respect. Keep doing what ur doing my guyy and the 🌎 WILL WATCH!!!
That feeling when you punch the gas and the suspension lifts and tweaks. Priceless. Love the growling bear sound it makes. If you know, you know
Ahhhh yes another Pete Hager video. We love you Pete
When i was a teen a guy in my neighborhood had one of these and he would go down the road FULL SPEED riding a wheely. It was dope!
A brp dealership not far from me has one of these with hardly an hour of run time on it on display on the mesonine over the showroom. Looks like it came out of the crate yesterday. Super cool & unique machines.
You need to review more of the less common quads it’s cool to get insight on them and just make good content and also you need a 2 stroke to add to the fleet
Thank you for the feedback! I always try to jump on unique machines when I get the chance. I'm still waiting for the right Banshee opportunity 😅 As of now if I could get another machine it would be a 250R. Maybe I can have Sabo build me one on his channel and then I'll take it on trips! 😁🤘
@@PeteHager you should review a warrior 350 I own one myself
250R please pete!!
Yes agree. .. Cannondale, GasGas, kfx700
@@davidrendell6009he rode a kfx700 already
I always wanted to try a DS650 just for funzies. Probably won't get the opportunity any time soon though, so it's nice to be able to live vicariously through your videos.
I have been waiting years for this!
Man Pete, that DS was clean. Unique quads man.
I had an 05 ds650 and yes the suspension is very soft and handles jumps extremely well. It was like landing on a marshmallow. Also it'll eat rough terrain like a 4x4 on a light gravel road.
I know with enough seat time you could really get proficient at riding them! I was pleasantly surprised by my experience 😊
When these came out it set the bar very high. Always thought it resembled it's snowmobile brothers.
Ds650s are my most favorite quads, my dads even with a boggy carb was still a blast
there just a really big quad in my opinion
@@KilroyMotorSports that's one reason they are cool to me, they feel like a snow mobil or something
wow thats a SUPER clean ds!!!
@@StupidFastJohn I’ve got one for sale that is MINT! I did put 1 tooth bigger on the front ⚙️ sprocket and NOW it checks EVERY BOX on “my perfect machine form” but it just sits as we moved to town in 2016….. it is a TRUE (ride-wash-repeat) dependable machine as it runs the exact same at ANY TIME OF YEAR! I put tires on it 2007 and they are 50% now. I believe u have one already rite?? I’ve seen it in ur vids I think…. By the way, how u feelin? AINT heard or see much of you lately
My buddy had one of these and described it as riding the bullet on Mario lol
😊 45 hp not enough. So I installed a hayabusa engine in mine. Now it moves in any gear. Wheelie in any gear. 90 mph in FIRST gear.
cool machines, I got a suzuki ltz400 and also drove a ds650 a few wheeks ago. It feels so big, and its really a machine you can drive big distance on.. also on the streets. 👌
still the best production quad made in my opinion
@@nickbakker5187 It's the best if you enjoy it the most :)
These motors were on some bmw street bikes. Imagine a quad motor you can put 20,000 miles on
I had a 2004 Baja X package Ds650. Heavy quad but Road like a Cadillac compared to other quads. Definitely made for a Taller person. The longer travel made a huge difference in the whoops. 12 in front 12 rear. I end up putting Tm 45 carb intake and exhaust and rev box really woke it up. It would hold its own and beat a lot of other quads when I done that.
@@whosurdaddyds650 I put 1 more tooth than stock on the front sprocket and it made THE MACHINE WAY BETTER!! Still got it too. It runs the same ANY TIME OF THE YEAR!!!
Pete! youve got to get one for the channel! My uncle gave me his built 2000 ds650 and i love it im always riding it and very good and reliable engine!
I was pretty young when this bike came out and just loved it. Would have killed to own one. Great bike
My dad has the Baja edition and when I tell you that DS650 is a torque monster. Man they have real good bottom end they will go.
My buddies dad has one its got a hmf slip on and a big gun over rev cdi and it screams definitely agree that it does feel huge but it is surprisingly stable and planted as long as you respect it’s limits
The DS will always be one of my fav quads. You can see how they were designed for desert racing. It’s even in the name DS(Dune Sport) One of my best memories riding is when a dude out in the local sand quarry had one and I had an 01 660 with a slip on and air filter. Back and forth drag racing all day.
I have never heard of these before!!!
Bombardier is the a awesome quad my dad has one and he just loves the power it has
I always wanted a DS650 growing up that was top dog back in the day still think they look great
Still one of the top dogs. Today. I've smoked new 700 raptors and Drag 450r
I remember sitting on those in the dealership. I felt like I was sitting on a car. I did hear their motor rips. That track looks fun.
Awesome videos man ! Makes me miss my 2011 raptor 700R .
Ever since I fully built my 660 rap I love it wide af. And a bit longer. Handles like a a caddy but the ctsv version lol
I owned a cherry 03 for a couple years. Loved it, but they are a little heavy. Takes a good bit of speed to get it in the air on jumps. Very fun trail quads though. They absorb bumps very well though.
That place looks so awesome to ride, bro your always ripping the coolest areas. Save the Sport Quads 🤙🏻👍🏻 Great video bro!
it is Appleton ohv in Minnesota and i would highly recommend it.
@@acenightmare8940 gotta definitely add this 1 to the list.
I was hoping you would do a review on this machine ! I've always wanted to ride one they're such a unique looking machine. Rare too i dont think i have seen any for sale in the market near me in southern az. Nice job Pete!
We had two in camp back in the day. One was a “Baja” came with a big tachometer. They were fast.
My favorite quad ever! I still ride mine after 4 years of straight abuse. you need the over-rev CDI box to combat that short gearing. Only thing that ever beat me in a race is a honda 2022 450 dirt bike. Even at the track with steering dampener and twist grip converted (thumb throttle sucks!) she does shockingly well. Takes a lot of time to get used to the 500 pounds but its an animal.
Increasing the rev range would be awesome! I agree with what you said, I'm sure it does take some time to get used to the 500lbs but after a day of riding I bet you could really rip the thing! I was very surprised by the handling! 🤘
Just take off the rev limit with a Ron woods box. They still make them for these bikes as I recall they are only made for the DSs
I wouldn't want to do that it was limited like that for a reason and I ain't questioning it
Me and guys are heading to LIttle Sahara this weekend!!! See Ya there Pete (or hope to)
Not gonna lie, but Pete needs one of those!!!
My nephew has one a true beast
In my opinion it’s the best quad ever made. Smokes everything out of the box. Tough as nails. Comfortable and the Baja wins proves it is awesome.
Best big bore sport quad, but in 2007 sport utility renegade was faster stock.
@@HammerValleyRanch right. I was referring to when the Baja came out in 01’. Everybody thought the banshee would kill it. I beat banshees and raptors. Wish they would make them again. I’d buy it in a second
@@perickson28 won't beat a newer raptor and that's facts changed alot since then raptor improvised and evolved
@@darkwarrior141875 yeah I hope so. It’s lighter , a 700, and it took them years to do it
@@perickson28 yeah well you got a 1000ccs I mean damn
I love these first ride videos. Do a banshee that be fun.
In 04, they shortened the swingarm. Made the front end a lot lighter. I have an 04 and an 01, and the 04 wheelies a lot easier. They also upped the rpm 1000 revs
I wish we had as much areas to play in here in cali
I like weird quirks on vehicle and those fender/mud guards are pretty freakin sweet
Amazing amount of fun .
There's After market CDI which lets you rev quite a bit higher
Safely.. A lot of other aftermarket engines support as this ROTEX engine was used in BMW as well..
In the desert and Dunes these things used to rules supreme No link rear shock eats everything up when pushed hard
Upping the rev range would be nice, I've never seen a quad hit limiter so easily lol The seating position was super comfortable so you could definitely ride one all day. Maybe sometime I'll get to try one that's more modified to compare the experience!👍
@@PeteHager I have a nice one with camshaft CDI thats maped to give you 1,500 more rpm and a lot faster raving....
The DS650 I describe it as they feel slippery UNDERNEATH you .. good twist throttle double wide IMS foot pegs and a puck style steering dampener really help make it feel planted in confidence inspiring..
They are reallyd
Bulletproof and great desert and dune monsters ...Ron Woods engine performance parts can really turn these things into fire-breathing monsters.
You come out west let us known
The suspension looks so crazy on that
My favorite quad I've had.
Love ur vid bud 🤟
I have a Ds650 Baja X up here in BC Canada. Never had a chance to try in in the dunes but used it plenty trail riding here, despite no reverse it does well. The power for sure demands respect and it gets squirrely in a hurry on a rough trail at speed. Been thrown once and that was enough 😫
I love the Baja X models, they're so cool! hopefully you get your chance to rip the dunes someday!!
love those things
i know a couple guys w those ds650’s they pulled the motors out and threw hayabusas in those puppys! absolutely insane, the guy said it does 130 in 2 gear
Jahhahaha makes sense there is already a big power full engine in there so must not be that hard to put a bigger in
I wanted one of these so bad when I first saw them in atv magazine!! Shame they dont still make them
Had to sell mine 2 weeks ago, gonna miss it !
I love ur vids 💓
Mines almost ready ro ride again..just got a few more things to button up. Things are very hard to find parts for. Took forever to find a used rear shock that wasnt beyond rebuild....
Had one for me it was fast in a straight line, but too much for me to throw around on the trails. So I had kind of a love hate relationship with it
Have a 2002, and if you want the wheelie or jump it, you need to crank down the suspension. Even when you do that, it gets a little sketchy because it's so front heavy.
I have a DS 650 (Dune Sport). I ride the desert dry lakes and my trails are shared with pre runners with whoops and rocky gravel. I love my DS even with stock power.
Wait till you want to get a gearing reduction my ds is quite upgraded
I’m sorry but was that a warrior in the intro?!!??!?? It’s about time I see one on your channel!
love it when you get to test new machines. also where is all the 400ex content at?
We actually just filmed some riding with the 400ex last week! I may or may not have fallen off of it once 😅🤦♂️
@@PeteHager heck yeah cant wait to see it. She may be small but she will bite if your not paying attention lul they are much stronger machines than they look like they are
Reminds me of the atv offroad fury 3 days
I use to use this quad in a video game years ago it was the fastest Atv then the banshee
I wanna see Pete ride a trike, or attempt to. xD
Lol I would be such a pansy on one 😂
I just bought a 2021 Raptor 700R se and honestly I don't think I would trade it for any other sport quad I have ever ridden. These Ds650's are deffinetly unique but the raptor is a Apsolute Monster. I, Personally as a 195Pound rider throw the Raptor around like it's a 250. Took a little while to get used to but now it's second nature, use the power to your advantage and your good to go.
Thats a great way to describe riding the Raptor. Takes awhile to get used to but use the power to your advantage 👌 Definitely how the DS650 felt as well but just a bit heavier than the Raptor. The Raptor is still in my mind, the most versatile do it all machine. It's pretty hard to beat in a lot of areas🤘
Your bikes older cousin the 660 was getting it’s ass handed by these DSs lol
@@G.H.O.S.T.F.R.E.A.K I don't have much experience with the Earluer 660's. But I'm sure that's why Yamadog made the 700.
That thing doesn't rev high at all. I remember seeing one of these brand new and it was huge!!!
It definitely was the oddest rev range I've ever experienced! Huge is a good word for them. Everything on the quad is bigger. I couldn't believe how stable and easy it was to ride for how tall it was. Pretty wild and comfortable experience. With a stabilizer you could cruise the dunes all day on that thing!🤘
I love my ds650 and how you lift up when you hit the gas,the suspension is great
Cool quads, never got the chance to ride one myself. Just looking at the dyno graphs of a piped/jetted one (45ish HP) and weighing 490lbs I can imagine they would feel a little.....underwhelming. Judging by the video these quads have the "I could ride this near the limit all day" type of feel to them. The DS always reminded me of a Ski-doo with wheels lol.
Sometimes the heavy vehicals phase you the noise and power up top can make it feel crazy fast! They are limit quads especially with handeling lol
You have some of the coolest content on your videos. I was always curious to see how that 650 handled. Great video as always. Where was this filmed?
Thanks man! This was filmed at Appleton OHV park in west central Minnesota. It's one of my favorite places to go for sport quads in the region. I've made a lot of videos there 👍
@@PeteHager yeah I happened to see the location as it being in Appleton. I was just wondering if that Appleton was located in MN or WI. I use to live in Appleton WI & I was wondering if that area you ride in was the WI one. I was hoping lol. I’m up in the WI north woods.
@@thenarrowpathatvchannel4316 Unfortunately your not the only one who's thought that. I actually hope to try out a ride park called Dyracuse in Wisconsin eventually. I went to a track called Stacker MX in Cornell Wisconsin this summer that was really fun! Theres some great riding in your neck of the woods, I know there's tons of trails to explore yet!
@@PeteHager a buddy of mine just informed me of Dyracuse. We planned on heading down there but work interfered so we didn’t get there. If your ever up here in Northern Wi, (Woodruff) give me a heads up. I’d love to hit the trails with you. My mom in law runs a bed & breakfast if you need a place to stay. I could hook you up for free, benefit of being a good son in law & taking care of her land. Lol. Just throwing that out there. 😁👍🏼
same motor in my 2002 BMW F650gs!!
Dem front fenders bracket def rub
hey pete you should go to the cinders sometime it’s in flagstaff arizona. im here right know i have my honda 400ex it does great and im sure your quads would do better but there are huge hills to climb and a ton of butms
Sick
I have a mint barn find 03 Baja. And a 2022 raptor. If I had to pick one to take on a long bumpy trail ride. DS all day long
i'd love to see you ride a raptor 250/350 and see what they can do ridden by a professional.
5 minutes gang!
You should look into a artic cat DVX 400 thos things are pretty nimble and they go good to and are super easy to wheelie
Working on big changes on the DS650. Hopefully to be out a lot more next year 2023.
its a rotary engine my boi thats like a sv650 bullet bike engine that atv the next year won the baja I had the limited edition one from 04 with the orange and black graphics it was mint
Haha nice ds it has good power 😎 they are sow big, i drive a renegade 1000 and a ds 650 The riding height is not much difference🙈
Awesome vid man, what camera setup are you using?
Thanks for watching! I've been running Hero7's this whole time with the Dango gripper mount purple panda microphone. The first 5 minutes of this video shares my current set up 👍ua-cam.com/video/kWbckb-7TQM/v-deo.html
Will we ever see some dirtbike content? Love the videos man!
I seen him ride a pit bike at the end of one of his videos. But he's not to confident with riding dirt bikes.
Hmm maybe someday. I do mountain bike so the idea of trying single track on a dirt bike does sound appealing. I just don't want to learn the hard way on a new toy and break myself 🥴😅
@@PeteHager You make a fair point, I started out on mountain bikes, worked my way into a 1984 Suzuki Fourtrax and then got a 2006 Raptor 660. Definitely start small and work your way up if you ever do haha. Great content either way man!
@@skylarkumm9450 If I did it would definitely be a smaller displacement 4 stroke to start out with. Bikes are so fast and capable so it's really easy to be over confident lol
@@PeteHager Like a Honda CRF250? Or a Yamaha YZ250? There's also the CRF230. Yamaha has the TTR 230.
Hey man what year is your raptor.
Thank God I went with the raptor 660.
The Batman DS at the very end of the outro of the video from little Sahara last year is mine, be interested to see what you think of it. It makes quite a bit more power than a stock DS, +6 swingarm, protaper bars, and steering stabilizer
I remember seeing your DS crew ripping around last season! You guy's had some fast machines, I'm glad I was able to ride a pretty stock example so now I can compare my experience with a more modified DS 👍
!Love to sea a DS 450 MX review
The ds was nicknamed sand pig because it was built for the baja 1000 and dominated the dunes
Hey Peter how r u hope ur doing well, awesome video here, i love it, but u should try the can-am 2007 DS-650 X, it was the last version of these models,, but its pretty different, or try the 2006 DS650-X! Would like to know ur opinion about it...
does this one not have a tach or is that cover??
Where does one find land like this to go ride on?
where do you mount your pov camera it always looks so cool
The first 5 minutes of this video shares the helmet cam set up. ua-cam.com/video/kWbckb-7TQM/v-deo.html Now that I have a new helmet I'm running the dango mount exactly as it is in that video 👍
race with your raptor and yfz (compare) please
What tyres would you recommend for a raptor 700r??
On the hunt so thought you be the guy to ask about it..
I actually just got a set of Obor Advent tires and I was pretty impressed with the traction they put down. I'd say the GBC XC masters are probably the most popular within the trail riding community. I also have the ITP GNCC tires and I've been really happy with them. I only have one ride on the Advents but am excited to try them more 👍
These were fun machines. It was a little bit big I wasn’t a fan of the hydraulic clutch tho
The only thing I don’t like on those DS 650’s are those front fenders on the wheels. If only they made it more like the plastics on the rest of the bikes. Maybe DS 450 stye plastics on it would look mean.
The little fenders are pretty goofy. I was told they don't really provide much splash protection lol They're one of the most unique characteristics of the DS650 so I couldn't imagine it without them. The DS450 is a pretty awesome looking quad too, plus they handle super well!
Hey Pete. I'm currently in the market for a new sport ATV. Being that you have spent considerable time on both the Raptor 700r, and the YFZ450R is there one you prefer? I ride everything from steep technical trails, snow, and very occasionally plan to take it to the track. I'm a very aggressive rider. Your input is really appreciated!
Which came first, DS650 or Raptor 660?
What’s up, Pete? How’re you doing? Thinking about selling my 08 TRX700XX and buying a 2013 TRX450R. What do you think about the swap?