Even "right out of the box" I'd always wipe down a surface with a solvent like lacquer thinner or even (safer) isopropyl alcohol to ensure the weights have the best stick possible.
50+ years ago I had a retread 14" tire on a bubble balance machine, it would have taken 2 pounds of weight on one side to get it into static balance! One could look at it and see it was way out of round. We turned the tire in for warranty.
In my experience anything 33” or larger should be balanced in static mode. I always hear people saying “you should really Road Force balance it” but the majority of those people are clueless on how tire balancing works. Road Force machines can’t properly match large (33”+) tires just because the machine doesn’t have that capability in that mode. It doesn’t matter if you have a 4th generation or even a newer 5th generation Road Force machine, either. The other thing people don’t realize when they complain about having a tire static balanced vs dynamically is that a large tire that has been static balanced will probably never go faster than 90 mph which most M/T’s are rated for 100mph. Drag racers and road racers alike use static balancing for high speed driving. IF you choose to balance your large tires dynamically then it would be best practice to balance your tires every 20,000 miles.
@@luisontiveros6377 I don't understand why you are upset, your also talking about something completely unrelated. I was trying to understand if he was simply considering it incorrect for putting the weights on one at a time he spun it up. Or if he has made some other mistake, or was just generally incompetent. He seemed to definitely have some good points and gave some significantly beneficial information, especially to the views of was directed towards.
No! Dynamic balancing improves lateral balance in addition to vertical (bouncing) balance. This reduces the chance of death wobble (but does not eliminate the chance of death wobble).
I just balanced a set of 15”x10” used Jeep wheels with 35’s for a friend. On Dynamic it was asking for 26oz on the outside and 10oz on the inside directly opposite from the outside weight. It repeated on a second balancer. Static was 6oz on the centerline. No way I’m putting 2lb+ of weight on a wheel.
If the numbers are too high you can dismount the tire and move it 180 degrees from where it was. BTW Static is fine but not having a cover thor that machine is kinda dangerous!
If you have to add weights more than one time with one spin your settings are incorrect. Spinning a tire and wheel 4 times saying it's perfectly balanced is wrong. You added weights 4 times. Way way over the required amount of weights in one single position inside and outside rim placed weights. And before you pick apart what I'm trying to teach you just know I've been installing tires since 1986. One spin. One weight placement inside and outside of rim for dynamic. One spin to perfectly balance tire means your initial settings are 100% correct. A second spin to check only will read 0:00 if procedures are all correct.
100%. You can balance an egg - think about it’s shape. But, it won’t roll down the road smoothly. You need to match mount the high/low spot of the tire and rim. That did not happen here. The “hop” is noticeable as he runs the machine. That assembly will not run smoothly down a smooth road…
I think you need a roadforce balancer. You clearly have a low spot with that much weight needed. Either the rim or tire. Be that as it may, the RF machine would tell you where and u can spin the rim/tire to match those spots and reduce all that weight you put on the outside plane. Even with the size of that tire/wheel assembly, that’s a lot of weight….
2 things and please hear me. You're correct is the way you explain dynamic. You're incorrect in saying dynamic is better than static. 4x4 tires all should be static balanced. As rubber wears off tire the tire is getting lighter. EVERY 1000 miles on a 35/12.50/18 a 4x4 tire needs rebalanced and rotated. Static balance only because 4x4 tires are not speed rated nor will they be traveling 80mph most of the time so no need for dynamic to take wobble out of wheel. ua-cam.com/video/TwY585gqltQ/v-deo.htmlsi=lwAE_zKFC94O92bK ua-cam.com/video/i9jkOVZiL24/v-deo.htmlsi=XCgDoVaPtpUTDdUP
Great video...I learned something new today. Static vs dynamic balance ...wow!
Even "right out of the box" I'd always wipe down a surface with a solvent like lacquer thinner or even (safer) isopropyl alcohol to ensure the weights have the best stick possible.
Awesome video and explanation, thank you brother
Video starts at 0:53
You may not need to clean it with a brush. But, you do need to clean it with alcohol for adhesion to glue better ..
50+ years ago I had a retread 14" tire on a bubble balance machine, it would have taken 2 pounds of weight on one side to get it into static balance! One could look at it and see it was way out of round. We turned the tire in for warranty.
can you mount a 37x12.5x20 on a ranger DST 2420, or do need a special balancer for larger tires?
In my experience anything 33” or larger should be balanced in static mode. I always hear people saying “you should really Road Force balance it” but the majority of those people are clueless on how tire balancing works. Road Force machines can’t properly match large (33”+) tires just because the machine doesn’t have that capability in that mode. It doesn’t matter if you have a 4th generation or even a newer 5th generation Road Force machine, either. The other thing people don’t realize when they complain about having a tire static balanced vs dynamically is that a large tire that has been static balanced will probably never go faster than 90 mph which most M/T’s are rated for 100mph. Drag racers and road racers alike use static balancing for high speed driving. IF you choose to balance your large tires dynamically then it would be best practice to balance your tires every 20,000 miles.
Great video of how to balance tires improperly.
Why do you say this? Because he put the weights on in multiple different sets/additions or something else I'm missing?
@@nickkempel6540you don’t even know what your talking about go learn where to put a jack
@@luisontiveros6377 I don't understand why you are upset, your also talking about something completely unrelated. I was trying to understand if he was simply considering it incorrect for putting the weights on one at a time he spun it up. Or if he has made some other mistake, or was just generally incompetent. He seemed to definitely have some good points and gave some significantly beneficial information, especially to the views of was directed towards.
Quick question, would a static balance work good as a dinámic balance?
No! Dynamic balancing improves lateral balance in addition to vertical (bouncing) balance. This reduces the chance of death wobble (but does not eliminate the chance of death wobble).
i static balance all my tires and NONE give me any vibrations
Yes its fine
@@SKANK_HUNT49 ok
I just balanced a set of 15”x10” used Jeep wheels with 35’s for a friend. On Dynamic it was asking for 26oz on the outside and 10oz on the inside directly opposite from the outside weight. It repeated on a second balancer. Static was 6oz on the centerline. No way I’m putting 2lb+ of weight on a wheel.
If the numbers are too high you can dismount the tire and move it 180 degrees from where it was. BTW Static is fine but not having a cover thor that machine is kinda dangerous!
If you have to add weights more than one time with one spin your settings are incorrect. Spinning a tire and wheel 4 times saying it's perfectly balanced is wrong. You added weights 4 times. Way way over the required amount of weights in one single position inside and outside rim placed weights. And before you pick apart what I'm trying to teach you just know I've been installing tires since 1986.
One spin.
One weight placement inside and outside of rim for dynamic. One spin to perfectly balance tire means your initial settings are 100% correct. A second spin to check only will read 0:00 if procedures are all correct.
May be balanced, but looks a little out of round.
100%. You can balance an egg - think about it’s shape. But, it won’t roll down the road smoothly. You need to match mount the high/low spot of the tire and rim. That did not happen here. The “hop” is noticeable as he runs the machine. That assembly will not run smoothly down a smooth road…
just a little bit..hahaaa
that tire IS out of round
Match mounting won't make any noticeable difference on a tire with that much sidewall. Match mounting is for sports cars with low pro tires.
I think you need a roadforce balancer. You clearly have a low spot with that much weight needed. Either the rim or tire. Be that as it may, the RF machine would tell you where and u can spin the rim/tire to match those spots and reduce all that weight you put on the outside plane. Even with the size of that tire/wheel assembly, that’s a lot of weight….
What rims are those??
2 things and please hear me.
You're correct is the way you explain dynamic.
You're incorrect in saying dynamic is better than static.
4x4 tires all should be static balanced.
As rubber wears off tire the tire is getting lighter. EVERY 1000 miles on a 35/12.50/18 a 4x4 tire needs rebalanced and rotated. Static balance only because 4x4 tires are not speed rated nor will they be traveling 80mph most of the time so no need for dynamic to take wobble out of wheel.
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That tire is BAD ... I can see its lumpy as it spins.
😂 this guy is clueless 😂 omg
Looks like a shit tire, run out is about .050 of an inch, maybe more. bounce all the way down the road,