EXTREME out of balance wheel! How to use a wheel balancer & everything about wheel balancing!
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2020
- This video is all about wheel balancing and includes live footage of an extreme out of balance wheel to show how bad it can be and how to properly diagnose on any vehicle. We talk about what is wheel balancing, when you need to balance a wheel, how to setup and properly use a dynamic computer wheel balancer, the differences between static and dynamic wheel balancing, tire balancer troubleshooting, self adhesive wheel weight placement, road force balancers, balancing beads, and much more!
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This channel is so educational and severely underrated, thumbs up for the water bottle demonstration of balancing beads, super creative
Thank you very much! I do try my hardest to make the very best videos I can so it's always nice to hear from subscribers. Yeah my channel is growing but very slowly, it's so hard to be seen in a sea of UA-cam channels out there. If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate it if you could share out my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks for the watch and your support for the channel! Cheers!
Wow so awesome, a complete course of wheel balancing in 30 minutes without all the crappy music distraction, too. Thumbs up.
Thanks a bunch.
Thank you very much for your kind words. I try very hard to make videos that have everything you need to be successful and entertained. If you deem me worthy I'd really appreciate it if you could share out my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks for the watch!
My favorite part was when he pood the beads in the bottle. Man you would be a great automotive instructor. Now I feel like a dam mechanic. Now I know what to look for. SUPERB JOB 👏 👏 👏
Thanks, I do try very hard to engage my students and motivate them to be their best! Yeah the balancing beads are pretty cool to see in action. I bet you know more about balancing wheels than most techs now! Cheers Bruh!
Static balancing still has its place and it’s place is with bigger/heavier tires like M/T’s 33” and bigger. I’ve had a hell of a time balancing radial 33’s. Went the dynamic route and kept chasing weights. Roadforced them and they balanced but had a vibration at 50mph.. Finally talked to a 4x4 shop locally and they said they only balance heavy tires with static balancing. I took their advice and did it and no issues. No vibrations no shimmy no nothing.
Good to know as I rarely do wheels that big. I wonder if a big mud terrain tire would benefit from balancing beads too for when a big rock gets picked up/dropped from the knobby tread. Cheers!
@@wayofthewrench Balancing beads are truly a hit or miss. My personal argument as to why I do not use them is that an imbalance on a tire is at fixed spots but balance beads constantly move the balance
Yeah balancing beads are really only for large tread off road tires for when they pick up rocks/lose rocks constantly.
Such a clearly and patiently explained video. Initially I thought "30 minutes on using a wheel balancer?" but not a single minute was wasted. You've earned another subscriber!
Thanks bruh! I love hearing comments like this. I really appreciate the sub, I'm working hard for my subs....too hard. lol. If you got something out of the video, I would really appreciate a share out on your social media, it is crazy hard to get noticed these days when there is a sea of content out there. Cheers!
Just recently discovered this guy's video. They are top quality. Keep up the good work.
Glad your enjoying my videos. If you enjoyed the videos, I would really appreciate a share out on your social media. Thanks again!
Thanks for explaining the balancing beads. Like everything, pretty easy once you understand it!
You're very welcome! That's the trick, you have to understand it so it helps to have a great teacher or video that helps make it clear. Thanks for the watch!
That was AWESOME. You are a great teacher! Thanks for advancing my knowledge of wheel balance. I've been suffering a rough ride for the last 18 months, and I'm starting to realize all the possible causes of it.
Sweet! Glad you loved the video and my teaching style. Hopefully I earned your subscription today and if you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate it if you could share out my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks for the watch and welcome to the channel!
fascinating! thanks for showing how balancing works. Great stuff, from Gold Coast, Australia
Glad you liked the video! Wish I could go surfing, I bet you have some great beaches near you! Thanks for the watch!
Pro tip with liquid demos. Add some food coloring or some kind of dye to enhance the contrast. Brilliant application thought to demonstrate imbalance. Very Jurassic Park inspired.
That would have been cool....maybe a red dye. Glad you enjoyed the video. If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate it if you could share out my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks for the watch and your support for the channel!
Thank you so much for this valuable info. You can really tell the folks that put time and energy along with equipment into a first class video. You, my friend have the whole package. No BS just great info. Keep up the good work as folks like me will be tuning in. Peace-Out
Thanks Andy, that means a lot to hear comments like these from my subscribers. You keep tuning in and I'll keep putting out crazy good content. Cheers!
Your comment about road force balancing was applicable to me. I took my vehicle to a nationwide chain tire store and requested road force balancing. When I got back my vehicle there was vibration at cruise speeds. I suspected this would be the case a I did not see any indications that the tires were optimized , the tires being deflated and rotated on the rims. Usually there would be "some" chalk marks somewhere on the rims and tires and that I did not see. Also I always remove the hubcaps and keep them in the trunk and replace them myself. There was no evidence that the tires were "wiped" clean. I am therefor returning to have the job done properly. The store has Hunter Elite machines , very high tech for road force balancing and my only hope is that there is someone on the shops team trained to do this kind of balancing. I paid for road force balancing and that is what I expected, not just computerized balancing.
Every now and then a tire just doesn't cooperate and there is something that is wrong with the tire internally when driven. These can be tricky but the shop can play with things to try to solve the issue including using the balanced spare wheel or a good shop wheel in order to diagnose the "bad" wheel. I'm not sure deflating the tire and rotating it would be a fix as if it is a out of balance wheel assembly, you would just counter balance with weights but maybe more than usual if the tire's heavy side lined up with the rim's heavy side. Taking off the hubcaps would prove out if the issue was with hubcaps but are not included in the wheel balance so test with them off first. Another trick mechanics do is do a tire rotation and see if less vibration is felt in steering wheel as maybe the out of balance wheel is on the front which tends to shake the steering more. Other possibilities is that other components are worn and exaggerating the feeling/sound of a balance issue. Bad wheel bearings, bad strut, bad shock absorber, etc...a rotating part that can have speed dependant issues. I hope you got it sorted out. Thanks for the watch! Cheers!
@@wayofthewrench I understand all that you have said. Honestly I do. These Michelins tires only have 8k miles on them and they were road forced prior with excellent results. When I took them back to Costco for a rotation and balance I inadvertently forgot to mention not to rebalance , so after the fact that's when I decided to take matters into my own hand have them road forced elsewhere as they don't offer that service. So I know they can be balance with minimal vibration, much less than I am experiencing now. I'll see what happens when I take the vehicle back. Thanks for responding. I really enjoyed your informative video. Cheers
@@wayofthewrench So , the balancing was made right as I watched in delight as the tech did his thing. There was one wheel in particular that appeared to be problematic as he seemed to have been "chasing" weights but in the end the computer gave an OK. The vehicle is silky smooth now all the way up to 80mph. My taking the vehicle back and requesting the work be done turned out good.
Glad you got it figured out. Was it done on a road force balancer?
@@wayofthewrench Yes, Hunter Elite balancer
Great video! Answered every one of my questions. Your demonstrations and explanations are top notch for me the amateur mechanic. You got a thumbs up and a new subscriber.
Awesome, glad to hear you loved the video. I try very hard to make the very best videos I can so it's always nice to hear from subscribers. If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate it if you could share out my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks for the sub and welcome to the channel!
@@wayofthewrench Consider it done.
Appreciate the support! Cheers!
A lot of good information here. A very good teacher clearly explained. Invaluable for solving these subtle problems.
Thanks Ian! I try very hard to give the information in a clear and interesting format so it's nice to hear back from people. Yeah these subtle problems can be really hard to diagnose, especially when they are only slightly off but having proper diagnostic skills is key. Now you and my students have an awesome visual of what an out of balance wheel looks like. If you deem me worthy, I would appreciate a share out on your social media so I can help more people. Cheers!
I know I'm late, but damn, what a great vid. Super interesting, thanks.
Better late then never! Thanks. If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate it if you could share out my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks in advance and welcome to the channel!
Thanks for the excellent tutorial Sir 👍
You are very welcome! Thanks for the watch!
Another method of balancing tires with a dynamic system is liquid balancing , (most people use antifreeze) generaly it takes about 2x the OZ weight of balance beads to work properly with liquid.
Funny you said this. I see a lot of cars come in with water in the tires from air compressors that don't have a water trap. It always throws off our balancer because the water will start on a different side and will constantly tell us it needs more weight. After 3 attempts, we always break the bead and look for water. Thanks for the watch and the info!
@@wayofthewrench yeah dynamic balancing doesn't take effect till the tire is up to a decent speed like 25-30 mph, so yeah it you tried to weight balance a tire with beads or liquid in it, it would never balance because a wheel balancer doesn't spin the wheel that fast.
Yeah not a lot of people around us even want balancing beads. Cheers!
Very good video, learned something. Thank you.
Awesome Brian! Glad you enjoyed the video. Welcome to the channel!
Really enjoyed. Very informative. New subscriber 👍🏽
Awesome! Glad you liked the video. Thanks for the watch and the sub, welcome to the channel! Cheers!
Excellent video full of knowledge, thanks
Thank you very much! If ya deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate it if you could share my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks for the watch!
Impressive video-- especially liked 4.19 part and front wheels running.
Thanks Paul, I tried to film something to really teach people about the effects of wheel balancing and all the stuff to diagnose and fix. I actually broke the car filming this.... Thanks for the watch!
Thank you so much for this valuable info. You can really tell the folks that put time and energy along with equipment into a first class video. You, my friend, have the whole package. No BS just great info. Keep up the good work as folks like me will be tuning in. Peace-Out
Thanks bruh! I really did put a ton of effort it this video so thanks for noticing. I was pretty shocked it didn't get more views but it is really hard to be seen when there is so much content out there. If you enjoyed the video, I would really appreciate a share out on your social media so more people can see how I wrecked a Nissan Altima with wheel weights....lol. Cheers!
Thank you so much. I just got a tire changer and a balancer set. Thought it would be easy to do. Just as a hobby. But I've been having issues with having to keep adding more weights. And or not knowing why those darn sticky weights just would not sit properly. But luckily I was able to see this video. Now, I'm going to go and try your lesson. Hoping it works out.
Cheers.;
If your having troubles with weights having to keep being added but your doing it right, you might need to calibrate the balancer. Glad I was able to help ya out and that you are enjoying the channel!
I'm glad I found your channel, best explanation and experience. Thank you.👍
You're welcome Tony! If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate if you could share out my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks!
really nice video for those who don't understand this stuff guy. keep up the good work. i wish all tire technicians understood the things that you went thru. I've had to babysit tire techs so much with my wheels.
Thanks Victor! Glad you liked the video. If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate it if you could share my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks for the watch!
Really well explained! Thank you, you are an impressive teacher!
You're very welcome bruh! Thanks for the kind words. I do try very hard to make these videos the best they can be. Cheers!
Man, great info on everything! I watch a lot of tire videos and you showed your experience has much to offer. Thank you for the beads in a bottle demo, that was equally full of knowledge.
Thanks bruh! I'm trying really hard to bring solid videos full of great info and tips that most people don't know or don't wanna share. Glad you enjoyed the video and if you haven't already, check out the rest of the tire playlist and the new welding series. Cheers!
thank you for the video!! very well explaination plus the water bottle demostration! learning is always fun! thanks!
Thanks Penny! Yeah I love learning and I'm constantly learning new techniques/processes/projects. Glad you enjoyed the video!
You are and outstanding teacher. I'm subscribing to your channel today,
Thank you very much! Glad you found my channel and thanks for the sub! If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate it if you could share out my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks for the watch and welcome to the channel!
Awesome video/Very informative..I had my doubts of staying focused through this lengthy video of what I thought was already known basics..But you proved me wrong and got my attention throughout!!👍
Thanks bruh, I tried to make the best wheel balancing video out there and make it interesting too. I actually broke the car shaking it that hard. Thanks for the full watch!
Wow. Outstanding. I've just purchased an FMC tire balancer. I intend to use it for my own vehicles. I buy and restore antique and classic cars. You are a good teacher and are very interesting to watch. Thank you
Thanks bruh! What is your favorite car to restore? I'm a big fan of late 60s Gm cars.
Ty so much for this ive always been good with working on my own cars and have recently decided to go the professional route I will always recommend this to anyone who needs a refresher or is learning for the first time like me
Awesome dude, glad you appreciated the info! If ya deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate a share out on your social media so I can help more people. Cheers!
@@wayofthewrench say less! You deserve way more views man your videos are so well done
Thanks Bruh, if only I could be seen in a literal sea of UA-cam videos out there! Cheers!
@@wayofthewrench cheers m8!
Finnally a very good explanation of the dynamic balance of a wheel and why weights can sit with 180 degree opposition each other, at last in theory. What would have have happened if you have sat the heavy balancing weigths while the wheel sitting on the car with 180 degree opposite? (Sorry if my english isn’t perfect - i am danish)
Yeah it might have made the dynamic balancing worse and had more shaking. Either way, that balancing video killed that car. It shook everything on that car to death. Lost a bunch of electrical components...lol
Great lesson on balance!
Thanks Glen! I had fun filming this one! Thanks for the watch!
Thanks for the time aloha from hawaii 🤙🤙appreciate it
Glad you liked the video Bruh! Cheers from Canada!
Really good tutorial! Thank you!
Thank you very much! If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate it if you could share out my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks for the watch and welcome to the channel!
Cool! Popped up as the #2 video on my UA-cam Feed!
I actually broke the car filming this video.....multiple fuses blew and I lost 2 of 4 cylinders!
Excellent video. Thanks.
Thanks Daniel, glad you liked the video! This one was fun to make....I don't usually break cars in my videos but this one was vibrated to death....lol. Cheers!
Ur the Man! Great video. Thanks.
Ahhhhh yyyeeaahhh booooiiii!
Very good video!
Thank you. I had a lot of fun filming this one....I actually broke this car, it shook to death. Thanks for the watch!
Excellent video
Thanks Bruh! If you like this video, there's way more like it. Cheers!
Bro your excellent wish I watched this 6 months ago
Thanks dude! Well at least you found me and now there's a ton more videos just like this. Hopefully I earned your subscription today. Thanks for the watch and welcome to the channel!
greatest explanation...👍
Glad you think so! If you deem me worthy I'd really appreciate it if you could share out my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks for the support and the watch!
Great detail and I info thanks
Thanks, glad you liked the video.
I watched this in addition to the virtual pinball build.
Thanks! Whacha think? You get the Initial D reference?
Great job
Thanks Tim! Glad you liked the video. Cheers!
Awesome teaching
Thanks Gus, glad you liked the video and my teaching style. Cheers!
Very interesting!
Thanks, I had fun breaking this car for ya!
Amazing.
Glad you liked the video, hopefully I was able to gain your subscription today! Cheers!
Good helpful content
Thanks bruh!
You are a teacher!!
Thanks Patrick! I do try my best to make great edutainment. If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate a share out on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks Patrick!
Perfect presentation, last week I have bought a Redats w-100 600 eur wheel balancer for home and I must say all shaking is gone I have balanced the wheels better than any shop before. Only downside that its made in china which I hate but what can I do, I cant buy expensive one for home use.
Thanks! Glad you liked the video and my teaching style! If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate it if you could share out my channel on your social media so I can help more people. That's cool you bought a balancer, most people don't have one. Thanks for the watch and welcome to the channel!
great video ...would like to see balancing wire wheels
Thanks! Not many wire wheels coming in the shop these days but I'll keep it in mind for future content. Cheers!
Very interesting..
Thanks Vladi!
Thank you
You're welcome, glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for the watch and welcome to the channel!
Thts the sound!!!! Thts the sound I hear the clanky on the 3rd video!
Which sound? If it is a sound in the video, please use the minute/second in the comment so I can see what sound you are referring too. Cheers!
5:45 right before extreme out of balance. I hve been out all day trying to get fix! Had it towed to discount tires nobody is fixing they just keep saying it’s balanced. Sounds horrible and they are saying it’s prob transmission. Your telling me I had tires put on and now transmission went bad but it’s shifting with no problems but sound like it’s going to fall apart since tires put on. I dnt know what else to do I’m out 300 dollars and my truck messed up!
Even part of the extreme the clanking noise is what my truck is now doing it wasn’t before.
Yeah I'm with you on that, if wheels were just installed and sound/vibration is there....it's the new wheels/tires. It is most likely not the transmission. I would like to think that most shops would try to help you out, if they are not...don't go back there in the future. If you were in my shop, I would check all the wheels to see if there was an unbalance and check for other issues if they were balanced properly. Perhaps they were supposed to install a hub adapter to fit the new wheels to the old hub assembly. The lug nuts could be loose or if new wheels were installed, the old lugnuts might be bottoming out. I would probably check for any major loose suspension/steering parts as well. I would try to talk to the shop manager at Walmart and see if they can either repair the issue or return the wheels and go else where for the wheels. Good luck, let me know if you gets this fixed and what it was. Cheers!
@@wayofthewrench Thnk you for your kindness. Walmart originally installed. I was scared they would mess it up even more so I didn’t wanna tke it bck there. I figure just tires deal with tires and worked with a manger and even paid additional 60 to rebalance the tires. They took the new ones said should b in bck. Worked on the vehicle all of 20min and said it’s ready… I asked did you drive it he said yes. Tht was a lie! I got a block away the noise started again… I put on hazards and crept home and parked it. Mind you I hve replaced almost every part in this truck sounds nuts but I was struggling before being able to purchase new vehicle. It rides better than the Traverse I bought. I was trying to restore it and give my daughter the Traverse to go to college. I just keep getting screwed. Sorry so long… I hvnt gotten no sleep bck at work 16 hour shift with patients. I’m Just outdone to say the least.
Thank you sir
No worries, thanks for the watch!
Great presentation, thanks for that.
I have Coats 700 never used was sitting in the garage for 10 years, yesterday when I start using it it has error message on the screen, and can't fix it any help or instruction how to fix this ERROR message? Thanks a lot.
Thanks! You'll have to google the error code to see what it is. Could be something simple like the hub isn't tight or the hood is up or it could be a major problem. Hope that helps. Thanks for the watch and welcome to the channel!
Or you can do this after balancing the disk, release the disk, turn the wheel a little 90°, fix it again, turn on the machine and check what happens
Yeah this usually changes the weight a very small amount, like .25 or .5 depending on the wheel and if it's balanced or not. Sometimes it's just that way the wheel is sitting on the centering cone. Thanks for the watch!
Hi, Excellent explaination.......so do you recommend balancing beads? Because some people say they are trouble or do nothing? I am considering using them in my atv tires. I have a terrible handlebar shimmy at 40-70 kph...Thanks
I haven't used them personally but I know they are meant for big knobby tires that actively pick up rocks/lose rocks constantly so that the balancing beads fix the constantly changing balance. So they might work for you. However, I would check your steering, suspension for loose components, wheel bearings, and initial wheel balancing. It kinda sounds like something else going on. Thanks for the watch!
Fantastic informative video sir thank you 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 by any chance would you know what error 7 on a CORGHI EM 43 wheel balancer means . I can’t find it in the book or the website ! Don’t know if it’s a wheel balancer universal code ? Thanks
Thanks! I don't and I would imagine that they all have different codes per manufacturer if not per model. Most common codes are hood is up and wheel not tight, after that maybe shut it off, unplug power, remove a cover, blow all the dust off inside, and put the cover back on and see if it works. You could also try a recalibration if it lets you. Good luck!
Hello very cool video i have Mickey Thompson's they have blue dots ? thanks for your help
Thanks Bruce! Not super familiar with any other colour of dots. Maybe it's just a manufacturing mark or a production run mark. Usually only red and yellow dots indicate where to position tires on rims. Cheers!
Excelent. Question does tire patch and Slime Flat Tire or Fix-A-Flat affect a balanced wheel? Second question: In places where is to dry and hot, does oxidation of the rubber can generate vibration? In Oklahoma, the tires are bouncing but not because unbalancing but because road conditions (all warped and full of berms) so people has to buy 4x4 and Suv's, not too many subcompact cars (as mine) here
Thanks Pablo! Well a patch might affect the balance but remember you are balancing the wheel after your patch repair. The tire slime leak repair to a mechanic is like garlic to a vampire....we hate it. It makes a huge mess inside and yes it could make balance issues. Best fix is a umbrella patch repair from the inside and if it is a side of the road fix, a temporary tire plug works great until you can go get it fixed with an umbrella patch. The heat on tires doesn't really cause balance issues but it will compound or speed up other problems like tire wear. That sucks to hear about your roads, now you have an excuse to get a truck! Thanks for the watch!
thanks
You're welcome!
the initial d reference was enough to make me click subscribe 😄
LOL, I was waiting for someone to comment on that, your the first! Thanks for the subscribe bruh. Cheers!
Sir, a friend of mine gave me an older style wheel balancing machine. No motor but all the digital readouts. You have to manually spin the tire until a beep is heard then a brake slows the wheel/tire assembly and indicates the weights required and their placement location. My problem is that that the measuring device that determines how far the rim is away from the machine is missing. Do you know how critical this dimension is in regard to the accuracy of the wheel weight placement results and what it is actually measuring? That is the distance from the rim to what point on the machine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
It is pretty critical as it needs that info. However, it is literally a measuring ruler from the machine to the edge of the rim so you might be able to gleam some measurements from a pic or video of your balancing machine and make your own. Or find the part you need online. Good luck!
For balancing steel rims it's not to difficult but aluminum rims like 2000s Gm cars can be dirty and difficult need sand paper and scratch down the surface cars like Toyotas Honda and mostly kia wheels ballance the best getting the old wheel weight sticker off from the rim takes time i have thought of drenching it in gas and using a little fire to get it to separate the glue and wrinkle the paper mabe make it easy to scrape off with plastic getting the old sticker off without damage using buff cleaner then scratching the sticker with a old valve cord after using the sharp end of the bottle cap of the buff cleaner pressured can spray more and you can push the glue and paper off leaving no scratches this is done when the wheel is off the machine you can take stick weights off easily on the ground by rolling the tire around till the weight are at the bottom and scrape them off. Sometimes the tire needs alot of weight like 3.00 so you can stick the weights onto a tire sticker without peeling the back paper on the weights stick it near the area with the tire sticker holding the weights now if you spin the wheel everything will be ok and you can have the weights placed there without a issue if your asked for more weight you peel the tire sticker off and try again without wasting and weight because the film wasn't peeled. You can also use tire stickers to give alot of strength to sticky weights that dont stick on newer or older rims lets say you need to put 1.50 you clean the area very well you spray very little buff cleaner arsol can onto the sticker and you rub the glue from the sticker onto the rim you let it dry a bit and stick the weights directly ontop of the very sticky glue. Great video watched it all
Lots of good tips here! Thanks for the watch and welcome to the channel!
@@wayofthewrench Another good way to clean rims that have brake dust for sticking new weights is scratching the surface than use hand cleaner with sand grains pouring a little on a dry rag ad little water you can wipe very well with pressure in the area you want to place the new weights the area will be silver a clean another way i already said was a brass valve cord using the brass stem to dig into the arsol soaked paper you will notice the paper going into the valve stem hole where you fill the tire up from if you dont have a valve core in it the paper will keep peeling off the rim after you use the end of a plastic spray can arsol cap you hold it in a way like you use it as a shovel to dig the paper off when it is wet from the arsol you will notice the end of the cap it will bend in a way to be perfectly level with the bend of the rim and drag the glue and paper away from where the new weights go
I'll have to try that, cheers!
I had wheels installed at Walmart yesterday… when I got almost home the truck is jerking and clanking it was scaring. I’m scared to even drive is bck something was done seriously wrong!
Sounds like the wheel lug nuts have come loose, you may have a wheel coming off. Hopefully there is no damage. Good luck.
So I got a question about vibration in a steering wheel I did not see explained on UA-cam. While riding on the high way you get a vibration for 5-6 seconds and then it slowly goose away takes about the same time. Then after 5-6 seconds it comes back, and it keeps repeating this behavior. The speed this happens is around 110-120 km/h. Do you have a explanation what this could be?
Steering wheel vibrations are a good sign it's an issue on the front wheels. I would check wheel balancing on the front wheels, loose lug nuts, irregular tire wear (possible bulge), loose steering components, and bad wheel bearings. Do you feel the vibrations at lower speeds too? You've got something not right and I would not leave it, get it checked/fixed soon. Let me know what is was, cheers!
The FMC tire balancer Ive purchased at a very low price. It is a model 5.1. It is in need of repair due to something in the calibration system. Any suggestions?
I would be tempted to open it up and give it a good blow out with compressed air to get all the dust out. While you are in there check for loose connections or blown components on any of the circuit boards. I have had a lot of success resolving issues with machinery doing this. Beyond that your going to need more info to diagnose it properly. Good luck.
Cool
Thanks!
I am facing vibrations after multiple balancing. But could not find a road force balancer in the area. Is there any other way to balance road force variation on simple balancer..
I want to add another question
... Is the high part of tire the heavy part also.. and weight are put just 180 degrees opposite to it ??
No there isn't a way to simulate road force on a regular wheel balancer. If you can't find one near you, you may have to resort to narrowing down the problem tire and replacing it. You can remove one wheel at a time and replace with the spare wheel. Once the vibrations are gone, you will know that is the bad wheel. I would search a bit more in your area, I'm sure a dealership will have one, most higher end ones will like BMW will. Good luck!
Not necessarily. If there is a red and yellow dot on the tire then the yellow dot is the lightest part of the tire and should go to the valve stem on the wheel. The red dot is the part of the tire that has the most centrifugal forces acting on it (kinda like the tallest part of the tire and should go to the dimple in the rim on a steel rim or the valve core on an alloy). The red dot should be used instead of the yellow if both are present.
The weights go where the wheel balancer tells you to put them. The dots just help reduce the amount of total weight needed. Thanks for the watch!
But what about balancing the wheels only (rims) and then getting brand new tires for them? Can new tires by themselves be out of balance?
Great question but sadly this doesn't work. Both new rims and new tires are not balanced perfectly and require balancing before being installed on the vehicle. They will have red/yellow dots to help reduce the amount of weight needed to balance but will still require some weights. Thanks for the watch.
@@wayofthewrench Great I suspected it doesn't work, because I never saw anyone anywhere doing that haha Thank you for your (swift) reply! :-)
Is it shown on every tire where is the heaviest part or just for certain brands of them? I bought new tires and mounted one, now I need to balance it. I don't see any marking for the heaviest part (maybe I can't find it). And the heaviest part of the wheel, is it always where the stem is? Reading instruction on HF Wheel Balancer I came across the statement, that if those 2 points (heaviest parts) coincide, it is not possible to balance the tire, you need to rotate it 180 degrees relatively to the wheel. I've never seen any discussion on the subject, besides that instruction for HF Balancer (bubble) and this film. Thank you for the very informative film.
You gotta remember that the dots are there to help balance a wheel assembly with less weight so if the dots are not there, you can still balance a wheel. Some tires won't have those dots, usually because they are used. The yellow dot goes to the valve stem. If there is a red dot, then it goes to the valve stem or if it's a steel wheel with a drilled dimple then it lines up with that. If you have both yellow and red dots, then use the red dot. No dots? Then just throw the tire on and balance. Just make sure it goes on correctly for directional, asymmetrical, and or white walls facing all the same on the vehicle. Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench Thank you. I bought new tires fm/Tire Rack, asymmetrical, all 4 tires have no dots (R16, passenger car). I'll check w/their CS about no dots. I thought it can be different marking instead of those dots. Thank you again.
Not any other markings that I know about. Cheers!
@@wayofthewrench I see, thank you. I called CS of the Tire Rack, they said just some tires have those dots, some don't. More details like does it depends on brand, price and alike I couldn't get even fm technical support. Next time I buy tire fm them I'll try to get more information on the subject. Thank you again for very good films you produce.
Thanks Olena! Take it easy
Great video can you help me I have a fairly new atlas WB 41 tire balancer and always chasing weights 3 to 4 times to get wheel to balance I have calibrated it 2x but still chasing maybe doing that wrong
Hard to know what's wrong but a couple things come to mind. Improper weight placement, balancer is out of calibration (improper calibration), balancer is not on the right setting (balancing a steel wheel but it's on a tape a weight setting), or balancer is malfunctioning. Are there any error codes popping up? How new is the machine? Maybe if it is still under warranty, you could get it looked at? Good luck.
When it asks for more weight, is it right next to the last weight or is it somewhere different and a lot of weight needed?
@@wayofthewrench I have a question about that!!! on my last rotation and balance (at same place for same tires for two years) the shop guy told me whoever balanced it last did it wrong (This was at Walmart...I know lol) because he spaced the weights out (when it asked for more) instead of adding weight right next to what was put on....which is the way he did it, two weights together. Is this true?? Actually one back tire on truck feels off and I've never had that? This the first time the weights on each tire were together(if it applied) on a balance...it always rode good lol. I can not remember what he told me why weights should stay together??? They are clip-on's on a 16" light A/T tire for a Silverado. I probably should not even let these guys do it but I had a lifetime deal on that...
Here's what I do. If the tire was just installed, then I yank off every weight and start fresh. If its a check for balance, then I spin it and see where or if it wants weight. If it wants weight very close to existing weight and not much needed, then I add weight and leave old. If its is way off from old weights, then everything comes off. Sometimes it wants weight exactly opposite from old weights and I remove some old weight to see if it balances out or gets better. No sense wasting old weights, especially if they are hammer ons or tape a weight that is really stuck on. Thanks for the question, hope that helps ya out. PS, remember that weights fall off, it is a common thing so sometimes its not that they didn't balance it, they just might have not cleaned the wheel good enough and they fell off. Cheers Trev!
My tire shop (Jack Furrier) installed 2 new tires and balanced the wheels 3 times and it's still horrible. My steering wheel is shaking between 45-50mph and now the car pulls to the right too (i just had alignment done less then a month ago so idk how they messed that up).
They claim the wheels are balanced well on the machine.
They just keep adding weights and now there are 26 (twenty-six) 1/4oz weights on my right wheel.
These wheels were balanced perfectly with my old tires.
What do i do? Should i ask for my money back and do the road force balance? I have 20in wheels with low profile tires.
Thank You!
wow 6 1/2 ounzes is a lot of weight. are the weights on opposite sides from each other? That's a sign of inproper balancing for sure as you don't put weight on when it could be taken off from the other side. They might need to calibrate their machine. Are these new tires or used? It is possible that something is internally off inside the tire and requires a road force balancer. You could try putting on the spare tire and see if the problems are still there or go away. Now the pulling to the side is going to be a different issue. Does it pull when your braking or just driving? Pulling when braking is a seized caliper and the side that it pulls to is the working side. Pulling when driving is alignment or loose components.
@@wayofthewrench there are 18 weights on one side of the wheel, then they added another 7 to the opposite side and one more weight randomly placed somewhere in the middle of the wheel and no, they dont have the road force machine (i had like 1oz before on this wheel with old tires and no problems).
These are front wheels and my tires are brand new although not an expansive brand. They are called Lexani (Nexen)
They said the wheels seem balanced on the machine but when they put it on the car they notice a little wheel bounce, not sure how they tested that.
Alignment was done recently and i had zero alignment or balancing issues before they took the car.
Could too much weight on one wheel mimic bad alignment and cause the car to pull to the right?
I wanted to switch my left and right wheels to see if i notice any difference but they stripped the locking lug nuts with an impact gun 🤦♂️
Thank you for your answer!
@@wayofthewrench Oh, pulling to the right while driving, no brakes involved. My brakes, tie rods, control arms, wheel bearing, shocks are all great. Maybe they messed up the alignment but i have no idea how.
(these are front wheels they did)
Well it's definitely possible if they are stripping lugnuts and putting weights opposite from each other....maybe time for another shop.
no it shouldnt cause pulling...something else is going on and the fact that they are stripping lug nuts is'nt good. Get the wheel off and try the spare tire to test if it is that wheel.
I’m afraid to say that cupping is absolutely not from a bad balance. If that were the case it would happen on the rear tires as well which it absolutely does not. Ever. Cupping is the affect of steering and braking on certain knobby tires. The only remedy for cupping is frequent rotation. I’ve been aligning cars and balancing wheels for over 30 years and currently operate a shop in canonsburg, pa
Cupping can be from a bunch of stuff. Out of balance, bad alignment, worn suspension/steering components, cheap/old tires, etc and it could even be a combination of these as well. Thanks for your info and the watch. Cheers!
this was interesting info for a diyer but idk who this is really for, nobody that has access to a wheel balancing machine is going to be learning about it on youtube. lol those are for pros only
I am an automotive instructor at a high school so this video is for them and anyone who wants to know the fundamentals of wheel balancing. What it is, what causes it, what the symptoms are, how to diagnose it, how to fix it, how to use a wheel balancer, and how wheel balancing beads work. So this video is for anybody interested in learning more about wheel balancing. Thanks for the watch, hope you learned something. Cheers!
I had to have my wheels rebalanced due to other tire shop who mount my new tires and they statically balanced my wheels which was way off but the other tire shop dynamically balanced them and it rides way smother
Sometimes they use the wrong style weight or use tape a weights without proper cleaning and I've seen weights fall off before the wheels are even on the car. Did the second shop have to balance all 4 wheels?
@@wayofthewrench yes they did they used stick on weights and did a dynamic balance which the other shop when they statically balanced the wheels didn't do it right it was off like 2 onces
@@wayofthewrench the shop that mounted my tires thier computer balancer isn't accurate at all
ouch, thats a lot.
Yea they used a road force balancing machine which is alot better and detected how much a wheel is outta balance I think some ppl don't know how to operate a balancer I will never do business with the shop I had to mount my new tires ever again this was the second time it happened
So why are balancing beads not used in regular car tyres?
First off great question, I had to think about that one for a minute. At first I though it is probably just because of the added cost and hassle during tire changes. I think it has something to do with the fact that car tires are more uniform and less likely to have large debris (rocks) caught in the tread which creates an out of balance situation until it gets flung out kilometers later. Where as trucks have bigger tread grooves and require a balancing system that can self adjust as needed. However that still doesn't answer why new trucks with aggressive tread patterns don't come with balancing beads either. Deep thoughts.......
Stick on have a problem depending on the car and how big your caliper is it may not allow you to put them on because more than likely if it hits your caliper it's going to rip them off anyway
Could be but most stock cars don't have this issue. I've seen this on cars that have changed rims or added bigger brake calipers. Thanks for the watch!
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What if they don’t have dots on them!
Just balance them like usual with no concern for where the tire is in relation to the rim. Thanks for the watch!
Have you ever dealt with a twisted wheel? Not bent but twisted. I recently hit a curb and took it for repairs, the shop said we fixed the bend but the wheel is twisted and theres nothing we can do about that...i didnt even now that was possible
Yeah I see a lot of wheels come in that are ever so slightly warped/twisted but if it's really bad, they should be repaired at a wheel repair shop or replaced. If it's just a steelie, just replace it. We have a bunch of wheel repair shops in the Lower Mainland (B.C.) but there should be some near you too! Thanks for the watch!
do all tire guys do as good a job as you at balancing a tire
Lol...I hope so but ya never know. Thanks for the watch!
so beads are not advisable? you don't want us to use beads?
I would only use balancing beads on an off road vehicle with aggressive tread that picks up rocks. It is not needed on regular tires on regular roads in my opinion.
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Kilometers per hour.
Is it common a tire to be unbalanced only inside? Just got new tires an noticed three tires have weights on inside and outside, but one tire have one clip balance only inside nothing outside. Is that normal?
It's possible but very rare. Usually the weights go on both sides or the sticky weights are on the inside instead of the outside cosmetic side. Thanks for the watch and welcome to the channel!
Why didn't you just use a wheel weight hammer to cut the weights that's what it's design for
Are you taking about the tape a weights? I always just bend em and snap em, very quick and easy with the .25 ounce weights. Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench it's the bit in between the two handles on the inside of the hammer it's like a cutter you can also use it to cut the wheel weights if they are slightly too much and you don't have the correct weight
Thanks for the tip!
@@wayofthewrench no worries
Do they have jobs for people to do just that. I think I can quit my $21.00 hour job for this
Usually mechanics do everything and get paid well to do that. There are tire shops where techs only do tire changes though. Every Winter/Summer/worn out tires.....it is a constant thing in the industry.
What do you do now?
Thanks for the watch!
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Hey Arif! How are you? 8 years! You must have started when you were 13 years old.....good on you! I bet you're a pro at tire changes. Where are you in the world? Cheers from Canada!
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Yeah I do tire work and all automotive work. Hope you are in a safe part of the world right now. Take care!
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