Hunter wheel balancer is only half of the fix, you have to know if your wheels are hub centric or non-hub/lug centric, and find a shop that knows if they need to use a special adapter to balance your wheels. I had a 97 Toyota 4runner and Toyota SUV wheels were known for hard to balance because back then most shops had no concept of this hub centric and lug centric wheels. After some research, I found a shop that were using the Hunter 9000 and the special Haweka Adapter to finally get rid of the vibration. I don't know if Toyota wheels are still hard to balance now or Hunter balancers have this adapter built-in now. That was 20+ yrs ago.
Thank you for the wonderful informative video. Very impressive to watch an actual Hunter Tech explain the technology behind the Hunter RoadForce machines. I only have my tires balanced that way for years.
An egg shaped tire won't be detected by most tire shops. I jacked up the car so the tire just cleared the pavement, then I rotated the wheel and found the tire was 1/4 inch out of round. The manufacturer fully refunded the tire's cost, even after 6,700 miles use - no argument - no fuss.
Interesting idea. But if you're balancing by the center hole of the wheel it's only as accurate as the center hole.. Balancing a wheel and tire assembly by the center hole is quick and easy but the way to get a proper balance is by using an adapter that attaches via the bolt holes. Also for aesthetics, shops put stick on weights inboard behind the spokes (as in this video) but to get a proper dynamic balance the weights need to be on the outermost edge of the wheel. Which isn't pretty but they don't shake when you're done.
Having personally used a wheel balancing machine, if the wheel's center hole is bent (or off in some way), you'll know it immediately. These modern wheels are CNC machined, and steel wheels are made on metal stamping presses using precision dies. Wheels are not hand made, so having a center hole that's off center is not possible. However I have seen bent center hubs.
@@komoru Well, all I can say is keep balancing tires and you'll see what I mean. Wheels are accurately machined but machines aren't always perfect. A customer that comes in with a chronic vibration (caused by the wheel/tire assembly) should have the wheels balanced by the bolt holes. I know it's not quick and easy but it's the correct way to do it.
But... if the tire is defective you'll never correct that by rotating it's position on the wheel unless the rim is way out of wack too. This might make it slightly better but the only real fix is to replace the tire. Arguably, your money is better spent replacing the tire rather then repeated expensive road force balancing!
But even if you replace the tire, it still needs to be balanced. The point of this video is that given a choice between a normal balancer and a road force balancer, it's best to choose a shop with road force balancing.
Hunter wheel balancer is only half of the fix, you have to know if your wheels are hub centric or non-hub/lug centric, and find a shop that knows if they need to use a special adapter to balance your wheels. I had a 97 Toyota 4runner and Toyota SUV wheels were known for hard to balance because back then most shops had no concept of this hub centric and lug centric wheels. After some research, I found a shop that were using the Hunter 9000 and the special Haweka Adapter to finally get rid of the vibration. I don't know if Toyota wheels are still hard to balance now or Hunter balancers have this adapter built-in now. That was 20+ yrs ago.
Thank you for the wonderful informative video. Very impressive to watch an actual Hunter Tech explain the technology behind the Hunter RoadForce machines. I only have my tires balanced that way for years.
An egg shaped tire won't be detected by most tire shops. I jacked up the car so the tire just cleared the pavement, then I rotated the wheel and found the tire was 1/4 inch out of round. The manufacturer fully refunded the tire's cost, even after 6,700 miles use - no argument - no fuss.
Interesting idea. But if you're balancing by the center hole of the wheel it's only as accurate as the center hole.. Balancing a wheel and tire assembly by the center hole is quick and easy but the way to get a proper balance is by using an adapter that attaches via the bolt holes. Also for aesthetics, shops put stick on weights inboard behind the spokes (as in this video) but to get a proper dynamic balance the weights need to be on the outermost edge of the wheel. Which isn't pretty but they don't shake when you're done.
Having personally used a wheel balancing machine, if the wheel's center hole is bent (or off in some way), you'll know it immediately. These modern wheels are CNC machined, and steel wheels are made on metal stamping presses using precision dies. Wheels are not hand made, so having a center hole that's off center is not possible. However I have seen bent center hubs.
@@komoru Well, all I can say is keep balancing tires and you'll see what I mean. Wheels are accurately machined but machines aren't always perfect. A customer that comes in with a chronic vibration (caused by the wheel/tire assembly) should have the wheels balanced by the bolt holes. I know it's not quick and easy but it's the correct way to do it.
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this machine is really bad to calibration. check but balanced on different machine
But... if the tire is defective you'll never correct that by rotating it's position on the wheel unless the rim is way out of wack too. This might make it slightly better but the only real fix is to replace the tire.
Arguably, your money is better spent replacing the tire rather then repeated expensive road force balancing!
But even if you replace the tire, it still needs to be balanced. The point of this video is that given a choice between a normal balancer and a road force balancer, it's best to choose a shop with road force balancing.
silly Subarus.