SNK vs Capcom Drama is Causing Outrage !

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  • @TopHatGamingManChannel
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  • @whatupcuz786
    @whatupcuz786 3 місяці тому +171

    We American gamers hate censorship, that's 1 reason we had Japanese modded systems

    • @vic5015
      @vic5015 3 місяці тому +19

      The Japanese have much more casual attitudes towards sexyaluty and nudity in art than the US. Most countries do, really.

    • @tristanflores6262
      @tristanflores6262 3 місяці тому +6

      Unless you're in the FGC, then they'll call you the usual insults

    • @Trinioutsider34
      @Trinioutsider34 3 місяці тому

      I guess that explains all the nude mods y'all come up with. Makes y'all look like a bunch lonely ass people out there.

    • @scarvello
      @scarvello 3 місяці тому +1

      I still do 😂

    • @lordhorg999
      @lordhorg999 3 місяці тому +2

      Dumb

  • @amyrose6541
    @amyrose6541 3 місяці тому +87

    Remember in the arcade version of SVC Chaos Mai Shiranui jiggle cleavage was removed in the arcade version. And later, it came out on Xbox original console on September 28, 2004, and Mai Shiranui jiggle cleavage is uncensored.

    • @AntonioCardenasT
      @AntonioCardenasT 3 місяці тому +4

      Mai tended to be censored on the US. I think it stopped on ps2 02 and newer like 03 and svc chaos.

    • @kwizzeh
      @kwizzeh 3 місяці тому +1

      The American MVS, AES and home console releases of previous KOF games also remove her jiggle too, but with the right gameshark code on consoles or bios tweak would easily enable it. Just like this game.

    • @amyrose6541
      @amyrose6541 3 місяці тому +2

      Exactly. Let not forget that, kof 00/01 was censored on the PS2 version.

    • @Trinioutsider34
      @Trinioutsider34 3 місяці тому +1

      Mai, had jiggle effects since Fatal Fury 2.

    • @Trinioutsider34
      @Trinioutsider34 3 місяці тому

      @kwizzeh What home versions? I pretty much own all the KOF games and Mai has jiggle effects in those games,

  • @GlitchanBlack
    @GlitchanBlack 3 місяці тому +173

    “Online commentators…"
    By that you mean “Twitter.”

    • @TopHatGamingManChannel
      @TopHatGamingManChannel  3 місяці тому +55

      Not been on there, it's a shit hole.

    • @ck8985
      @ck8985 3 місяці тому +7

      That is true

    • @ck8985
      @ck8985 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@TopHatGamingManChannel That is Also true! 😅

    • @ChaoticHoly
      @ChaoticHoly 3 місяці тому

      Twat-X. It's Twat-X

    • @Fencellisk
      @Fencellisk 3 місяці тому +3

      Twitter is where people argue the politics of... and not the actual subject they're supposed to be arguing about. 😂 For example, when was the last time someone argued about how good a basketball player Caitlin Clark is? Smh.

  • @deviantknight7009
    @deviantknight7009 3 місяці тому +46

    I grew up in the 90s and while seeing some helicopter parents most of us were left to learn and grow up as actual kids having fun. My parents being latino Christians never once told me not to play Mortal Kombat or Street fighter. As long as I cleaned and my homework was done my parents wouldn't complain and even sat down and played games with me :).

    • @MrFernadz
      @MrFernadz 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah that was just your personal experience and there are probably some others that didn’t get hassled. Plenty of others did not have the same experience. Same thing with music. Anything with guitars and screaming was “satanic”

    • @dnonamuso1
      @dnonamuso1 3 місяці тому +1

      @@MrFernadz Right? I definitely remember the news reports about bans, and there were literally Bipartisan congressional hearings. Mortal Kombat is directly responsible for the ESRB and the little rating stickers on games that still exist today. There's also the SNES version, replacing the red "blood" with grey "sweat" and removing some of the fatalities. Like, what 90s is dude even talking about?

  • @lennyface5182
    @lennyface5182 3 місяці тому +69

    North Americans: "NOOOOO NOT BOOBS"
    Chad Asians: "YEEEES MORE BOOBS"

    • @haffyree5576
      @haffyree5576 3 місяці тому +1

      Virgin Americans : WHY IS THERE NO TRANS GIRL WITH PENIS

    • @MaineMaineJr
      @MaineMaineJr 3 місяці тому +4

      Said no one ever

    • @GeekGhostGamerTop
      @GeekGhostGamerTop 3 місяці тому +6

      @@lennyface5182 dude, this is why Mai Shiranui is the boob goat. This is why I love her as the part of KoF lore. So imagine censoring the one feature that has defined Mai sexuality (which is the boobies)? You'd be killing the character's aura

    • @rogerdetillion9644
      @rogerdetillion9644 3 місяці тому +1

      Mai and Chun-li are waifus

  • @HaggardPillockHD
    @HaggardPillockHD 3 місяці тому +10

    How did you stretch an issue about a poster into a rambling 14 minute video?

  • @McGomezAddams
    @McGomezAddams 3 місяці тому +43

    This video turned into a venting session 😂

    • @puritychalice
      @puritychalice 3 місяці тому +9

      It really did. I thought I was coming here for something else.

  • @edwinvaniersel
    @edwinvaniersel 3 місяці тому +88

    Biggest problem is the 5 continues max thing. Kills the gameplay.

    • @maxspecs
      @maxspecs 3 місяці тому +20

      Skill issues…

    • @edwinvaniersel
      @edwinvaniersel 3 місяці тому +24

      @@maxspecs true not denying it :) but at least let me play the story mode stuff properly.

    • @maxspecs
      @maxspecs 3 місяці тому +22

      @@edwinvaniersel But in all seriousness, this is an old-school SNK game, notorious for difficulty in a pre-Dark Souls era. The CPUs *will* read your inputs and bosses will delete your health bars with unfair attacks. If you’re shooting for story mode clears, it requires a completely different skillset from vs play, learning CPU patterns and exploits.

    • @edwinvaniersel
      @edwinvaniersel 3 місяці тому +3

      @@maxspecs I will try that a bit more hopefully it works hate akuma haha 😂

    • @stolasthegreatprince4166
      @stolasthegreatprince4166 3 місяці тому +1

      It doesn't. Just get good.

  • @ChrisMS0815
    @ChrisMS0815 3 місяці тому +27

    Somebody said in anl comments section, "I'll just stick to my original Xbox copy if it's censored then", to which I had to point out how that release was actually censored while this one was not.

    • @minimiliano
      @minimiliano 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, those type of people just complaints about anything.

  • @SORAKH1376
    @SORAKH1376 3 місяці тому +8

    The one thing that i don't like with svc chaos is the fact in the arcade mode we're only given 3-4 continues a run. I've tried a lot of buttons to see if any add continues but there is nothing I've found so far. Meaning for people to play the game at level 4 and onward we're only given so little tries to beat the arcade. I hope there's something I'm missing to it or there'll be a small update to change it

  • @brichan1851
    @brichan1851 3 місяці тому +14

    Neither of these issues bother me as much as many others. The thing that bothers me is the fact that the Single Player option only allows for 4 continues. As an incredibly hard fighting game, being brought home, we should have unlimited continues. I cannot think of a single other fighting game with such limitations on play. Even having this same game on PS2, Xbox, and the Neo Geo AES, allowed you to keep playing until your heart was content.

    • @drunkplaylists1829
      @drunkplaylists1829 3 місяці тому

      incredibly hard lol

    • @axe6279
      @axe6279 3 місяці тому

      @@drunkplaylists1829 Some people have more in their lives than video games, mate.

    • @drunkplaylists1829
      @drunkplaylists1829 3 місяці тому

      @@axe6279 I don't really play them, but if this is your definition of incredibly hard i don't know what to tell you 🤷‍♂ You probably think tying your own shoelaces is incredibly hard.

  • @YoungMJP90sBABY
    @YoungMJP90sBABY 3 місяці тому +5

    Honestly tired of these nerds they harshly judge everything to controllers, graphics, remakes, anything gaming in general just shut up. I used to play this game at the arcade in early 2000 brings back memories I like it so what!, and we are getting mvc collection

  • @SamM_Scot
    @SamM_Scot 3 місяці тому +33

    While trigger warning is unnecessary silly the game is completely uncensored along with art on physical edition, well here in Europe anyway. It seems the art in question was only changed on likes of American western YT as it's fine on Euro physical edition cover I'm getting :-)

    • @ChrisMS0815
      @ChrisMS0815 3 місяці тому +6

      Has to be an ESRB issue cause alot of games have been having censored or altered promo and cover art of games. This is far from the first game to do this.

    • @SylveonTrapito
      @SylveonTrapito 3 місяці тому

      North Americans don't want boobs 😂

    • @Darkchao_berserko22
      @Darkchao_berserko22 3 місяці тому +1

      ⁠​⁠@@ChrisMS0815that what I been thinking. I do know the esrb have been forcing guidelines for publisher on what can and cannot be shown on boxart. One of these is any weapons being pointed at the viewers or as you shown. Any revealing outfits

    • @etrotm1226
      @etrotm1226 3 місяці тому +3

      Probably only the PS4/5 version of the art is censored. I can imagine it won't be on Switch, the ironically best place to play most games without censorship on consoles.

    • @ahsanvirk130
      @ahsanvirk130 3 місяці тому +1

      Will the Pal version also be uncensored...?

  • @tetsuoshima2314
    @tetsuoshima2314 3 місяці тому +7

    The limited credits is a bigger issue than any of these things. It's basically a "broke-ass at the arcade w/ only $1" simulator. Makes no sense when you bought the game, it should be like owning the cabinet w/ the keys to open it up and spin the coin flipper or at least having a bucket full of quarters/tokens - continue at your own prerogative.

  • @RLomoterenge
    @RLomoterenge 3 місяці тому +17

    Radical left. Radical right. 2 ugly sides of the same coin

  • @kaptainkommando6568
    @kaptainkommando6568 3 місяці тому +15

    I think by saying cleavage has always been censored by the squeamish US population, doesn't mean that censorship should be allowed (even though i get what you mean that we can't blame the woke mob on this one). I live in the united states and i'm always shocked that the audience will more readily accept decapitations in Mortal Kombat but then clutch their pearls when there is underboob. It is very hypocritical in my opinion since acts of violence depict someone getting hurt, wheras most guys AND girls love a good sideboob smh. Great take though Tophat! can't blame the blue haired brigade on this one! The americans should behave like the americans the japanese think we are!

  • @michaelburdine3596
    @michaelburdine3596 3 місяці тому +30

    I play on the easiest level and turn super gauge on max with single round matches on arcade and I have problems beating it with 4 continues. The game is hard. They need to add unlimited continues.

    • @Francis-ht5td
      @Francis-ht5td 3 місяці тому +1

      I agree I'm bad at fighting games but I thought the easiest difficulty wouldn't be input reading verything I do lol

    • @jiro1281
      @jiro1281 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah it’s kind of a big flaw with this game. They should have adjusted that for the re release for sure… it’s not the 90s anymore where slot machines and coins are used. Then again, this is technically an SNK game that’s pretty much KOF vs SF, I didn’t know what else I was expecting when this came out. Anything SNK puts out is always gonna be much cheaper.

    • @zinesis
      @zinesis 3 місяці тому

      Op blocking and counter not to mention the spam projectiles from Sagat.

    • @etrotm1226
      @etrotm1226 3 місяці тому +4

      Thats Old school SNK for ya. We call that, "SNK Boss Syndrome" Only way to beat it, is to improve, or find exploits lol

    • @michaelburdine3596
      @michaelburdine3596 3 місяці тому +1

      @etrotm1226 yeah. I'm on a pad. Gotta build up thumb calluses.

  • @skyuru
    @skyuru 3 місяці тому +3

    Not the first time that happens, but the point is: after even so many time we told that we hate censorships and changes in general, they still keep going with that bullsh*t because "sensitive modern audience" i mean wtf lol
    But the problem its that some games are getting censored beside the illustrations, like see how many retro Capcom games got slightly censored, its maybe "not important" for some people but it matter for the principle.
    We areally live in such sensitive era? Seriously? When games like The Last of Us and Mortal Kombat are showing the most brutal gore contents ever?
    Oh boy...

  • @tarekmoneimsaid
    @tarekmoneimsaid 3 місяці тому +3

    why is that disclaimer even needed? What's so offensive in the game? Does it feature Song of the South Uncle Remus as a secret character? Hitler hidden away in a background?

  • @alyasVictorio
    @alyasVictorio 3 місяці тому +4

    Glad SvC's actual game itself isn't touched by censorship, but its art cover is
    Plus, I found out that this game (made by SNK) is overshadowed by its 2 counterparts (made by Capcom) for some reasons. And so overshadowed I don't mind its haters either way

  • @brichan1851
    @brichan1851 3 місяці тому +9

    5:07 not the fans. People who play these games and like these games have never been afraid of cleavage. The catering to people who have no desire to play these games is why Americans are so upset.

  • @sladejosephwilson2300
    @sladejosephwilson2300 8 днів тому +1

    As an american I agree with you. American'a and peoplw that live in america have become too sensitive.

  • @afrikasmith1049
    @afrikasmith1049 3 місяці тому +14

    I grew up in the 90s. Conservatives (Or at least most of them.) were the main antagonist against video games right up until 2010 to 2015.

    • @anzumazaki7798
      @anzumazaki7798 3 місяці тому +4

      yes this is true, i remember growing up hearing about that one lawyer (forgot his name) that tried to make a case that video games like gta3 was the reason for the increase in mass shootings and other violent crime. then from 2016 onwards with gamergate, conservatives realized that it's better for them to recruit gamers rather than antagonizing them.

    • @iankof90
      @iankof90 3 місяці тому

      Joe Lieberman was not conservative

  • @juanvillicana816
    @juanvillicana816 3 місяці тому +19

    The Switch version its uncensored. When Bison defeats Earthquoke his victory quote in the spanish translation it's: "Que rival mas flacido y maricon" (What a puny and f**got rival)

    • @fojisan2398
      @fojisan2398 3 місяці тому +9

      Woah, Based Bison?

    • @NetBattler
      @NetBattler 3 місяці тому +2

      Nintendo really don't care about this kind of stuff lol and I hope they will keep this tradition for their next console

    • @Sinn0100
      @Sinn0100 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@NetBattler
      Correction, they don't care about that stuff outside the US.

  • @seishino
    @seishino 3 місяці тому +5

    SNK: This is how it was. You’re all responsible for how you respond to it.
    Internet: HOW COULD YOU! JUST LET US BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HOW WE RESPOND TO IT!!!

  • @ThirteenOhEight
    @ThirteenOhEight 3 місяці тому +35

    People complaining about everything BUT the gameplay that didn't get fixed at all.

    • @Shaggyjunior760
      @Shaggyjunior760 3 місяці тому

      So true lol

    • @jiro1281
      @jiro1281 3 місяці тому +6

      Yeah it’s kind of a big flaw with this game. They should have adjusted that for the re release for sure… it’s not the 90s anymore where slot machines and coins are used. Then again, this is technically an SNK game that’s pretty much KOF vs SF, I didn’t know what else I was expecting when this came out. Anything SNK puts out is always gonna be much cheaper.

    • @Sikiares
      @Sikiares 3 місяці тому +4

      the gameplay is ok, you know, this is an old game, a newer version would be different for sure.

    • @radiak55
      @radiak55 3 місяці тому

      indeed, should have released SVC Chaos: The Good Edition. Though do appreciate it for posterity.
      If they wanted to release the game, better to do what was done with the MvC series and do a collection with QoL changes and add the other crossovers done with Capcom like the card fighrers

    • @GMSpectre
      @GMSpectre 3 місяці тому

      They didn't fix Guile's charging?

  • @Zaden_KT
    @Zaden_KT 3 місяці тому +9

    As long as the content in the game isn't removed/censored, I don't mind

  • @MrXMysteriousX
    @MrXMysteriousX 3 місяці тому +2

    Some great insights but I disagree on just calling it a marketing issue in regard to the promo material.
    I don't think it's intentional but i feel like using "marketing" as the reason slightly hides the nature of what we are talking about.
    And if we take your statement about the US at face value, and that Europe is less prudish, why then did we get the promo art of America and not the Japanese in Europe?
    It would have taken no additional effort to give us the JP one and if we are less prudish, would indicate we'd prefer the Japanese uncensored promo art, yet that isn't what we got.
    And why would that be? They've seen the regular outrage of the left/woke on prudish matters, often dressed up as female rights issues (the male gaze, unrealistic beauty standards and so on)
    It's a perfectly valid point to bring up that in the past the right wing was to blame for censorship in gaming, but it did generally get targeted towards violence, rather than sexuality.
    I'm sure we all remember the various examples from the 90s like MK (yet we had their revealing outfits still) and likewise, mentioning SNK self censoring the game in the past itself is worthy of discussion.
    But really, when you say "marketing" we are talking cultural sensitivity and it is undeniable the Left wing is leading the charge on being prudish to how women are portrayed in media and by extension, culture in modern times with the real risk of accusations of sexism etc being thrown around at the drop of a hat.
    And whilst we can definitely point to recent left and right wing examples of policing sexuality it's also not 50/50
    In the modern day, Twitter mobs and campaigns are launched to police things people don't like on the regular and it's given off the impression that cultural sensitivity to sexuality is higher than it actually is.
    But who then are this loud minority?
    It's just a fact that Twitter skews left, has done for sometime AND is used more by left to boycott than the right.
    That's not to say the right doesn't also, but again, it's disproportionately the left/woke.
    So when we say "marketing" w we are saying in effect "what's permissable to progressive mob"
    So, I think it's valid to highlight that.
    I know it's easy to say "it's just promo art, the games still uncensored" but the very reason you are making the video is that people have seen the censored promo art and thought it would lead to censorship in game.
    THAT'S a marketing issue in it's own right, as SNK should want people to know the game ISN'T censored, yet the promo art makes it look like it is.
    As for your wife, people should leave her alone and let her do her thing, her videos are great and, you sir, are a lucky man ;)

  • @ResidentXombie
    @ResidentXombie 3 місяці тому +6

    I heard this game uses a limited amount of credits to continue. WTF?!

    • @minimiliano
      @minimiliano 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah perma death after 4

  • @JoobyMcGee
    @JoobyMcGee 3 місяці тому +12

    The biggest problem with this, the capcom is censoring a character that isn't even their own character that is not cool. 4:52 America being squeamish when it comes to cleavage is just straight up a lie because some of the best-selling video games in America happen to be games with heavy amounts of fan service in them. And to all the people saying, "It's just promotional artwork, why does it matter that's censored, it's not a big deal." If it's not a big deal then why did I need to be censored in the first place?

    • @kwizzeh
      @kwizzeh 3 місяці тому +7

      Capcom didn't make this game, SNK did. You are confusing the Capcom vs SNK series with the SNK vs Capcom series.

    • @Fate862
      @Fate862 3 місяці тому +1

      Its like you didn't even watch the video or listen to him. He said SNK. SNK are the developers and the only publishers that were involved in this games re-release. The devs for the port were code mystics and the publishers are SNK because this is an SNK game. This is why people in the comments and youtube videos are spouting the wrong publishers to blame saying its capcom but its not. Your all thinking of Capcom VS SNK which is capcoms game series, this one isn't that. Which is unfortunately sending all the hate comments to the wrong company. The game isn't even censored in game either. You should edit this comment to say SNK. The reason the artwork is censored is for age ratings in america probably. Nintendo censors alot of their box art for their games too. Senran Kagura, Disgaea 6, Dusk Diver 2, Amazing Princess Sarah and so on. Its done for the west only with nintendo switch games too.

    • @JoobyMcGee
      @JoobyMcGee 3 місяці тому

      There is no way the decision to center that artwork came from SNK because SNK has never censored fan service in the past

    • @MOOEY_DRAWS
      @MOOEY_DRAWS 3 місяці тому +2

      @@JoobyMcGee dawg THEY OWN THE GAME. It is their decision.

    • @JoobyMcGee
      @JoobyMcGee 3 місяці тому

      @ManaSamaSRK Just because they own the game doesn't mean it's their decision. Now stop trying to defend censorship

  • @dj_miromax730
    @dj_miromax730 3 місяці тому +2

    Yu-Gi-Oh players want uncensored arts too, especially dark magician players

  • @uxm4life94
    @uxm4life94 3 місяці тому +5

    Trigger Warning- this game was made at a time when we didn't care about fake fans on social media and we just wanted fans to have fun.

  • @charaoki
    @charaoki 3 місяці тому +1

    This generation of gamers are so privileged that they boycott over disclaimers and promotional art. That's like if Capcom still had it's "This Game Contains Scenes of Explicit Violence and Gore" disclaimer and everyone ran to Twitter to cry about how soft this generation has become.

  • @lonewolffang
    @lonewolffang 3 місяці тому +2

    Bought it back on the OG Xbox and enjoyed it for what they tried to do. I'll give the remaster a shot, too. The silly thing is that game companies have been doing this for decades. So why the outrage now all of a sudden.

  • @gpturismo
    @gpturismo 3 місяці тому +3

    Been gaming since I was 3 (1980) and we've had censorship since I remember. Mortal Kombat? Pilotwings 64? Tons of JRPGs.

    • @yayo_youtube
      @yayo_youtube 3 місяці тому +2

      How was pilotwings 64 censored

    • @gipgap4
      @gipgap4 3 місяці тому

      Yeah, people getting their knickers twisted about nothing really. Censorship or lack there of has never been consistent across the globe with differences between regions in respect of religious, political and cultural sensitivities. Final Fight changed Poison and Roxy’s appearance so many times in respect of the different conversions of the game to various systems during the 90’s. The SNES version of the original Mortal Kombat was heavily censored and altered compared to the arcade version.

    • @gpturismo
      @gpturismo 3 місяці тому

      @@yayo_youtube Robin's JP name. People freaked out back then about the change.

  • @torrentvirus13
    @torrentvirus13 3 місяці тому +14

    I thought Top Hat wasn’t going to cover SNK games because of the Saudi Prince’s ownership. 😂

    • @IrishKyokushin
      @IrishKyokushin 3 місяці тому +7

      He's in Britainstan. He'd have to move Countries if he really wanted to boycott

    • @GeekGhostGamerTop
      @GeekGhostGamerTop 3 місяці тому +1

      @@IrishKyokushin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Mudkip971
    @Mudkip971 3 місяці тому +6

    I'll be honest, the art with Mai being covered more looks better because the arm placement in the original looks a bit awkward.
    Though personally I would have loved a compromise between Athena being more visible and the Mai change.

  • @bigtaz504
    @bigtaz504 3 місяці тому +21

    😑I gotta stop clicking on this guys videos.

    • @haffyree5576
      @haffyree5576 3 місяці тому +3

      would anyone care tho? *No*

    • @bigtaz504
      @bigtaz504 3 місяці тому +2

      @@haffyree5576 you must. I mean you said it.

  • @sammyramirez6869
    @sammyramirez6869 3 місяці тому +2

    Do people not know what the word woke really means anymore cuz it gets thrown around for the wrong things

  • @SamwiseTheNotSoBrave
    @SamwiseTheNotSoBrave 3 місяці тому +1

    This "controversy" is ridiculous. Ok, so an image that you'll see for all of five seconds before you boot up the game (read: not even in the game itself) has been altered from the Japanese version. Who cares? The game itself is completely unchanged, and that's what matters.
    You can tell that some of these people weren't around in the early 2000s, when Mai's sprite in KoF 2000/2001 was edited in the NA version (PS2) to remove the bounce from her idle animation. That's something worth getting into an uproar about, but that was nearly 25 years ago so who cares at this point.
    EDIT: As for the disclaimer, it's clear CYA. It's just them saying, "If you get pissy about something in this game, don't complain to us." Makes sense to me, especially when you have characters like Genjuro telling the other characters to off themselves in one of his win quotes.

  • @Lock2002ful
    @Lock2002ful 3 місяці тому

    This is so ridiculous. But I’m not surprised. It’s because of the conservative US market. It always has been and always will be.

  • @gustyko8668
    @gustyko8668 3 місяці тому +16

    I disagree with the "they are even worse" part, but still I agree with you that both sides can be very extreme!! 🙄

    • @Violent_Wolfen
      @Violent_Wolfen 3 місяці тому +5

      If you're referring to conservatives and religious people regarding censorship, you weren't around in the 80's and 90's.

  • @DANCERcow
    @DANCERcow 3 місяці тому +1

    What's funny, people actually think this is Capcom censorship this SNK game but if it was Capcom having any pull over this rerelease, then why isn't Chun Li nor Tabasa(the wizard) also censored since these are Capcom characters? Because isn't Capcom know for "censoring" there recent rereleases? Lol so with that in mind, it's not Capcom at all is in fact SNK who has the most pull over their own game!

  • @Broadsamurai
    @Broadsamurai 3 місяці тому +7

    People who care this much about this should reconsider their priorities. We have actual problems in the world.

  • @JoshuaLowe-ci3wo
    @JoshuaLowe-ci3wo 3 місяці тому +3

    Many people were upset that SVC CHAOS didn't get re released for the new xbox

    • @Brandonweifu
      @Brandonweifu 3 місяці тому

      By many you mean a group of insignificant dung flingers gotcha

  • @SteveC-x6t
    @SteveC-x6t 3 місяці тому +1

    I love this game on the 405V ,PS2 and SNK version. The dark tone of the game 🔥

  • @mugendragon100
    @mugendragon100 3 місяці тому +1

    The game itself is not censored just the promotional art work so what’s the outrage it’s stupid yes but the game itself is not censored

  • @GrimmysReviews
    @GrimmysReviews 3 місяці тому +6

    i doubt anyone's truly forgotten the tradcons and their role in censorship over the years, but right now, it does seem like the progressive types are the louder ones, and they do complain about beautiful women in media just as much as the tradcons do, just for different reasons, i think. honestly its hard to tell the two apart sometimes. people are getting sick of the censorship from either side and it is getting to the point where censoring some promo art will be taken as a bad omen, with the more vocal side pushing for that stuff getting the blame for it

    • @hia5235
      @hia5235 3 місяці тому

      Tradcons gave you the late 90s: they had no power. Late 90s the most uncensored era...ever

    • @Chingaez
      @Chingaez 3 місяці тому +1

      Probably because of the egos from both tradcons AND progressive (should I dare reeegressives) that we're in thia type og situation.
      For example, I've seen one female player who was very iffy about Iroha (Samurai Shodown) for her...full course of swan style fanservice...you get the idea.

  • @Tallahassee21
    @Tallahassee21 3 місяці тому +4

    The hilarious part was everyone saying capcom joined the woke agenda, despite capcom having little to do with the title.

  • @MrZenpai
    @MrZenpai 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey great video bud and I just about agree with all that u say except for parts of the Bobbie.. section. Yes u are right Japan has always censored there games due the regions but I believe the censorship has gotten so extreme to not offend anybody hence the disclaimer in the beginning of the game. Folks are just so tired of it games like Dead or Alive or Senren kagura can't be made this day of age or it's heavily watered down to appease the west. So folks maybe jumping at shadows when anything gets censored but I don't blame them given the way things are now of days. I also appreciate the fact that u say both sides are extreme but lets not kid ourselves the majority of the reasons why things need to be watered down comes from one side. This isn't just going on in the gaming industry but it's all over especially if these companies have places in California. 🎉🎉 Cheers yall

  • @NameGueSapeYe
    @NameGueSapeYe 3 місяці тому +2

    9:51 A disclaimer that we all are walking on eggshells now.

  • @luismiranda6163
    @luismiranda6163 3 місяці тому

    Hit the nail on the head Tophat. Been playing it on switch. Getting it on ps4 next. Always was my favorite crossover game.

  • @Pandsu
    @Pandsu 3 місяці тому

    And here I thought this might be about the price, which I think is the biggest issue. It's one emulated game, and a controversial and not that popular one at that, at half the price of whole collections of way more popular emulated games. And some would even argue that those were already a bit too expensive and I kinda agree.

  • @juicemofo
    @juicemofo 3 місяці тому +1

    Bro, you should be banned from using the word "outrage". I know its supposed to be clìckbaity. The problem is, its boring. Move on.

  • @dnonamuso1
    @dnonamuso1 3 місяці тому

    I think the entire point of the "censorship" was a tongue in cheek joke that went over everyone's heads. The game is from the 90s where the fighting genre specifically took a lot of hits in the form of bans etc and even some ads were banned. This is 2024, any ad released can be viewed by anyone so it's not like they were keeping anything from Americans by altering the "American" version of the ad.

  • @thicczagoon
    @thicczagoon 3 місяці тому

    I personally believe that if a company of a certain media wants to change their approach to character design, that they are justified in doing so. It doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with censorship. More like when you look back on a random memory and think “yeah that was cringe.” I personally have no problem with either (nor do I think it’s “cringe”), but if they felt it poor taste then they are valid in changing it to improve their vision of their brand. Sure it will piss some people off, but you can’t make everyone happy.

  • @BigRico.
    @BigRico. 3 місяці тому

    The mere fact that there is a video about this is crazy. Fighting game lover since playing SF 1 in the arcades in 87. Just enjoy the damn game people. Or don"t. Also GREAT video sir.

  • @bigd5090
    @bigd5090 3 місяці тому

    Great game for the the smack talking at the start of the bouts if nothing else! I still have it on the PS2. SNK Vs Capcom 2: Mark of the Millennium 2001 is better IMHO with the 3D backgrounds but this is more memorable. The brown colour palette for Chaos is a little bit questionable though!

  • @nimhard
    @nimhard 3 місяці тому +5

    Dude, this is a great video. I also love your wife's channel. And I think you are right. Both sides of the political spectrum (the most radicals) are idiots.

  • @MisterHanRPG
    @MisterHanRPG 3 місяці тому

    You make a really good point about conservative groups being just as hard on censorship as certain left groups are. I was around when people thought video games caused violence, believe me. That said, you hear about any right wing groups condemning revealing artwork like this as much as left wing groups do(at least on the Tube), which does kind of surprise me.

  • @sukugaru5167
    @sukugaru5167 3 місяці тому

    I was trying to figure out why the disclaimer was put in. My best guesses are 1) The presence of religious figures (Athena and God) 2) The presence of demons and vampires 3) The Midnight Bliss move 4) “the game’s 20 years old and something in it might cause offence because the modern internet is crazy, let’s put the disclaimer in.”
    At first I thought it might be the Midnight Bliss, but maybe it’s just that fourth reason.

    • @TheBlackSeraph
      @TheBlackSeraph 3 місяці тому

      I assumed that it would have been modern day Wiccans whinging about Tessa, but a couple of comments elsewhere here mention Balrog threatening Chun-Li with violence if she didn't become his girlfriend and Bison calling someone a bundle of sticks in the Spanish version.

  • @yauyuso
    @yauyuso 3 місяці тому +1

    Top Hat Gaming Man says, "I used to be on Twitter".
    Now he is on X
    Haha

  • @LuminescentShine
    @LuminescentShine 8 днів тому

    12:33-12:48 the man is speaking the truth. I see this on social media too often.

  • @billcook4768
    @billcook4768 3 місяці тому +5

    Haven’t had a chance to watch yet. But knowing how THGM writes headlines, I’m assuming “outrage” = some dude on TikTok said something mean.
    MVC is a broken game. Always has been. But it can be ridiculous fun.

    • @billcook4768
      @billcook4768 3 місяці тому

      @@AWMonopolyMan Thanks. So a piece of promotional art - not the game but promotional art - had less cartoon cleavage in one country than in another. People outraged about such a thing - and UA-cam channels that amplify their complaints - need to serious question their value system.

  • @DiegoNacho
    @DiegoNacho 3 місяці тому +1

    If anything, they did my boy Kyo dirty by not even having him in the promos at all 😭

  • @silvastone1691
    @silvastone1691 3 місяці тому

    OOOhhhhh Lady Decade is your wife, that explains everything. A few of her videos were recommended to me and when I watched I had the thought "hmm, her videos feel very similar to Top Hat's." Now I know why lol

  • @juanjoserivasgarcia2336
    @juanjoserivasgarcia2336 3 місяці тому +1

    I hate censorship, but in a poster... well.. I don't care. Now in the game the only think I find pretty much dissapointing is the MUSIC. SNK vs CAPCOM CHAOS always had that low point, the music is kinda boring and doesn't fit the action of the game, it just felt generic. They could invest on the music rights for every character's classic BGM. The port doesn't feel like made with love at all.

    • @Karzeon
      @Karzeon 3 місяці тому +1

      This was in 2003 and SNK was crawling out of bankruptcy. They had no resources. Pretty much this followed after KOF 2001 and 2002 which have a lot of reduced stages/music. Certainly nothing like peak KOF or Last Blade. They were also working on KOF 2003 at the same time so I imagine this game only had scraps to work with.

  • @LunatiqHigh
    @LunatiqHigh 3 місяці тому

    The difference between the censorship of the 90's was that it was usually Nintendo's fault and how it targeted the kids market. Would there have been even more difference if you included the Genesis, Neo Geo, Saturn and Dreamcast?

  • @elysianblinds
    @elysianblinds 3 місяці тому

    I actually whole heartedly agree with everything said here, and as an American who loves breasts and fighting games, I dislike the censorship. Free the tata’s forever.

  • @CalciumChief
    @CalciumChief 3 місяці тому

    4:02 Hey, don't ignore how they also removed Firebrand's torso from the shot. That's the real issue here.

  • @wagnersouza4463
    @wagnersouza4463 3 місяці тому

    This censorship in fighting game specially happens since 90s. US version of SF2 to snes, had the final Dhalsim cut scene re drawn. The snk games in the US version ha white blood. The US version of kof 99, 2000 had lots of crazy censorship, like the Whip gun move, thatin the US version she made a thumb gun. Even lots of genesis and snes games, had changes. Ristar game from genesis, had a re drawn in Ristar face, to looks less angry.
    Many here in Brazil always said that if you want good versions of games, animes and soon, praise to this game don't be released on US.

  • @ahsanvirk130
    @ahsanvirk130 3 місяці тому

    Really hoping the European or Pal version doesn't have censorship of any kind including cover art, gameplay, gallery etc.

  • @SharifSourour
    @SharifSourour 3 місяці тому

    Haha this is a great video essay. There’s a lot of completely unreasonable outrage over totally good and authentic things in gaming these days, usually being a loud minority who weren’t buying as much in the first place.

  • @SketchPLAY1
    @SketchPLAY1 3 місяці тому

    The jiggle physics for Mai were definitely in the arcade versions of the game here in the U.S back in the day, I remember them all to well.

    • @DemiGodX
      @DemiGodX 3 місяці тому

      No it wasn’t. You’re probably thinking of Capcom vs snk. This is snk vs Capcom. They removed her idle breast jiggle. But one of her victory celebrations had the jiggle

  • @sunniedunbar6889
    @sunniedunbar6889 2 місяці тому

    Let me just dust off my Neo Geo Gold System and Japanese copy of Chaos. There it is! Right behind Last Blade 2 and KOF 98 (aka: the best KOF).

  • @AsamiyaMouchou
    @AsamiyaMouchou 3 місяці тому

    Please make an episode 2 while remembering why you wont buy any SNK game anymore; and the fact that there's depiction of god in this game. I'm pretty sure there's an endless hole of content to dig in this direction.

  • @billx6545
    @billx6545 3 місяці тому

    It's been proven time and time again that censoring leads to more people not wanting the product due to word of mouth.
    As a side tangent i remember they didn't put mai in as a smash cameo because "it's for good boys and girls" the response to that was clearr and is probably why Pyra and Mythra were the way they are.

  • @ot4kon
    @ot4kon 3 місяці тому

    There has been a version without jiggle since forever if you put the old NEO GEO bios on USA English, MAI 8008s will not move. Is nothing new. That happened since the 90s

  • @KayMayhem777
    @KayMayhem777 3 місяці тому

    I really hate it when people like him make excuses for censorship. "It could be worse!" It can, and WILL be worse. This is a culture war, NOT the 1980's. Give em' an inch? They take a mile.

  • @shirokazuchi
    @shirokazuchi 3 місяці тому

    I would be happier if they didn't re-release the original game but instead do a "UM" version of it like KOF98 and KOF2002 got for the PS2 some time ago. This new version could fix the "unfinished" feel the game has and make a better finalized experience with updated graphics, sound and mechanics.

  • @codemonkeyattack
    @codemonkeyattack 3 місяці тому

    Without a doubt it's not that they are neglecting to mention that the game is more uncensored now, it's just that they honestly don't know because none of them have played the original or this rerelease. I'm under the assumption that at minimum 80% of the people who complain about fighting games have never actually touched one.

  • @chamcham123
    @chamcham123 3 місяці тому

    2:54 Beautiful ASSets. I saw what you did there. :)

  • @LocalJanitor6
    @LocalJanitor6 3 місяці тому

    I guarantee you anyone complaining about this has never heard of this game prior, and never planned to buy it in the first place

  • @Bbmag23
    @Bbmag23 3 місяці тому

    One boob at the superbowl and our country was on hold. He’s not lying. #janetjackson

  • @azzaell
    @azzaell 3 місяці тому

    I don't see the message like historic revisionism. It's acknowledgment of difference culture in the past. It's a statement of respect from the past.

  • @wolfmech
    @wolfmech 3 місяці тому

    I see so the jiggle is behind the whole no mai no buy.
    Besides in this era of games, there can be toggles created for all this stuff so the people that don't want to see it don't have to and the people that want to still can.

  • @danielsalinas3153
    @danielsalinas3153 3 місяці тому +1

    Ah, the "could have been worse" slippery slope...

  • @sterling7
    @sterling7 3 місяці тому

    Whether left- or right- wing, the people who call for games to be pared down to a form that is acceptable to them... Don't tend to be the people who keep those games afloat with sales. I just wish that companies would recognize this. Social media "outrage" is short-lived, constantly on a search for new fodder, but a fan base has a long memory if they feel patronized or slighted.

  • @triohazard6104
    @triohazard6104 3 місяці тому

    If people would mind their own business we wouldn’t need these levels of censorship. If you get offended then don’t play the game. It’s that easy. I for one cannot wait to see what Demitri’s Midnight Bliss does to other Capcom and the SNK characters

  • @nimhard
    @nimhard 3 місяці тому

    Also, great info on SVC Chaos American version. I never knew about the jiggle physics in the American version back in the day because I played the Japanese version on my PS2. Wild.

    • @ChrisMS0815
      @ChrisMS0815 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, SNK would censor Mai's jiggle physics and blood in alot of the early King of Fighters games in America. Later on in the 2000's they would pick and choose which games to censor or not, it was wierd.

    • @nimhard
      @nimhard 3 місяці тому

      @@ChrisMS0815 Bizarre. I think SNK brought the japanese versions to South America and that's why I never knew this

    • @kwizzeh
      @kwizzeh 3 місяці тому

      @@ChrisMS0815 I would be inclined to say it would depend who the publisher was. They went through plenty of them in the late 90s and early 00s-10s even though they sometimes self-published themselves in between releases. But when they didn't, it was companies like Agetec, Atlus, Bamco, Ignition Entertainment, and Sony Computer Entertainment.

  • @DJ.B_74
    @DJ.B_74 3 місяці тому

    I don't get censoring a game so we don't offend those who won't even buy the game. Get the mame arcade version for free or even the hacked version with playable bosses and hidden characters.

  • @khrato8211
    @khrato8211 3 місяці тому +5

    I love SVC, have the OG game still but just hate one thing about it. The damn lack of adding credits or just letting us continue more than a few times.

  • @juliox9
    @juliox9 3 місяці тому

    Top hat, i am also goign to add something here thet a releasing a physical version of these game with the artwork completely uncensored and in a big poster around the world makin it just for digital trailers where it censured

  • @MOOEY_DRAWS
    @MOOEY_DRAWS 3 місяці тому

    based on what rooflemonger said via a SNK contact, its literally just the ESRB rating for the game. No one was complaining about this. Its only been a talking point because of SNK removing it.

  • @Agueart
    @Agueart 3 місяці тому

    As a person who owned this game in College a video game design school mind you. I was the only one who owned it and for the most part very few people even knew SNK outside of that weird arcade machine they'd seen from time to time. So I think a lot of people are just jumping in on the it because terminally online people are weird and need something to yell about. I think gamers need to stop raging over this kind of stuff, it adds to the stigma that gamers are weird sweaty sex creeps. They likely changed the marketing art because parents are more apt to buy a game not covered in lewd imagery. As a card carrying leftist I don't mind or care about cheesecake but I understand why it would be cleaned up and don't care either way. If you need endless cheesecake steam has a whole section for that.

  • @Pakigol
    @Pakigol 3 місяці тому

    Well, from an european point of view, the US always has been a cooler Saudi Arabia, so censorship has to be expected, whatever it is for woke or christian reasons (which are kind of the same anyway). What really sucks tho is that us Europeans get the censored US versions most of the time...

  • @Ravenna_Black
    @Ravenna_Black 3 місяці тому

    The lack of a physical copy is whats pissing me off.

  • @se_wingless5605
    @se_wingless5605 3 місяці тому

    No one isn't going to say it. So imma say it. While people pointing out the visuals on how this game was tampered. If people remembered how the arcade port of this used to be, you couldn't mash at every second on wakeup or mid combos. This version of the game is very mashy. Idk what port they used. But it doesn't feel completely like an arcade port for some reason.

  • @Thatdeal79
    @Thatdeal79 3 місяці тому

    So let me get this straight? Nothing was edited out of the actual game but people are still mad about the editing of still non gameplay artwork? 🤦🏽‍♂️