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    • @hemi5.7awdpursuit5
      @hemi5.7awdpursuit5 4 дні тому

      @TopHatGamingManChannel Honestly Street Fighter is king of 2D martial arts game in history. That when other games follow it’s just not satisfying to play and lose interest. Leaving Mortal Kombat and killer instinct would be only rivals.

  • @CoolWave01
    @CoolWave01 11 днів тому +65

    What I find interesting is Capcom USA was suing Data East USA, but both Japanese parent companies didn't have a problem with it. 🤷‍♂️

    • @Mget41
      @Mget41 11 днів тому +9

      I think the Japanese copyright laws are a bit more generous. See the fire pro or any non licensed puroresu game.

    • @jayro792
      @jayro792 11 днів тому +11

      Americans are big babies

    • @CoolWave01
      @CoolWave01 10 днів тому +9

      @@Mget41I think Capcom JP knew the game wouldn't put a dent in their bank account, so why even bother. 😄

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 8 днів тому +2

      ​@@Mget41Capcom JP in the early 90s created a boxer who look like young Mike Tyson called Mike Bison (M. Bison)... And it was Capcom US that had to change the name and stress over the Mike Tyson issue.
      In another early fg, World Heroes, the first version of Muscle Power was made as a reference to Hulk Hogan. But that probably looked problematic for the localizers (though I don't really know the details behind the scenes) and that issue must have influenced the later WH versions to shave Muscle Power's mustache so it's not similar to Hulk Hogan anymore.
      In anime, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is full of direct and obvious references to western music, and the franchise is still going nowadays without a single worry... but when localization started, all those names had to be changed to avoid matching the names of songs and artists.

    • @ladynikkie
      @ladynikkie 7 днів тому +2

      ​@@CoolWave01they probably consider it flattering 😂

  • @meganinten0078
    @meganinten0078 11 днів тому +44

    Funny how Capcom sued Data East but later they copied their homework
    Capcom copied Lee's gameplay and gave it to Yun. No wonder Yun ended up so OP, Lee was Top Tier in every Fighter's History game
    Mizoguchi's TsuuTenSai is the original Shinryuken
    They gave it to Ken
    Ryoko Kano, the first female grappler, was the inspiration for Makoto
    Jean is the first character who throws a rose for his projectile and likes his suspenders. Something that Dudley got
    Edit: SNK copied Ray's Dynamite Tackle and gave it to Terry Bogard as the Power Charge

    • @neohayabusa13
      @neohayabusa13 11 днів тому +4

      That Jean with suspenders looked like the jean claude van damme meme where he is dancing with 2 girls

    • @Lupo32
      @Lupo32 10 днів тому +4

      Karate champ predates street fighter and the lawsuit got tossed out

    • @TonySkittleAlive184
      @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +2

      Plus the game COMMANDO from 1985 - even though Capcom produced it, Data East released it, distributed and also made the arcade cabinets for the game 😂 what a weird friendship these two companies have 😅 !!

    • @DoktorVicTim
      @DoktorVicTim 9 днів тому +2

      To an extent, I think Capcom also kinda copied a game series called Hiryu no Ken.
      Albert Roseman was a british, gentleman boxer who threw roses at the start of the fight and "The End"ed people SIX YEARS before Dudley. I guess capcom got pissy he looked a bit too much like Eagle.

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 7 днів тому +1

      Capcom is the superpower of the fg genre, so they will be always forgiven for that. But if a smaller company takes anything from Capcom they will be brutally attacked.
      The best example to me must be SNK's Ryo, whose reputation was dragged into a pit by the public outside the SNK community... because Ryo "dared" to be a karateka who wears a karate gi (?!?) and uses a fireball (not even the same hadouken gesture) and a jumping uppercut, in a game that came right after SF2. Ryo's creator was the same creator of hadouken and shoryuken anyway. And Ryo wasn't purely based on a SF shoto, he also mixed influences with Kenshiro from HNK, etc... but nothing changed the slander that ruined his reputation. And then came Dan, who wasn't even a malicious idea but fueled the hating fanboys anyway.

  • @StormsparkPegasus
    @StormsparkPegasus 11 днів тому +14

    The only way it could be copyright infringement is if they actually used SF2 code, or copied graphic/audio assets directly.

  • @fightrudyfight5799
    @fightrudyfight5799 11 днів тому +66

    Ryu : “can I borrow some sugar?”
    Ken: “SUREYOUCAN!!”

    • @chumorgan443
      @chumorgan443 11 днів тому +11

      Ken : "I'm taking this bird home
      Ryu : "THATS'NOT'YA'BIRD'KEN!"

    • @HotdogJuice
      @HotdogJuice 11 днів тому +9

      Ken: "You like juice, Ryu?"
      Ryu: "I DO KEN!"

    • @BeingADik_Jacob
      @BeingADik_Jacob 10 днів тому +7

      A curious child walks by Chunli and fondles her cheeks.
      Ryu: Attack That RUUUUDE kid!

    • @ph43draaa
      @ph43draaa 10 днів тому +2

      Ugh reddit-tier humor

    • @chumorgan443
      @chumorgan443 10 днів тому +3

      @@ph43draaa yep and you're welcome to contribute.

  • @rstone3345
    @rstone3345 11 днів тому +20

    I loved both Street Fighter II and Fighter's History back in the day. Not gonna lie, one of the reasons why I loved Fighter's History is because it kind of felt like some sort of extra characters DLC for SF2 so maybe Capcom had a point 🤣 Ryoko was my main!!

    • @machomusprime50
      @machomusprime50 11 днів тому +1

      Facts lmao

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 11 днів тому +4

      Ryoko is cool
      She is strong in the original game, sadly she became trash in the sequels 😅
      My mains are Jean, Ryoko and Mizoguchi

    • @persona83
      @persona83 10 днів тому +2

      Ryoko FTW! BTW the YAWARA! anime is one of the inspirations for Ryoko, the other being the real life japanese judoka Ryoko Tani. YAWARA! is available on UA-cam, in case you're interested.

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 10 днів тому +2

      @@persona83 You are a man of culture 👍
      What is interesting is that there is another character called Ryoko who is also inspired by YAWARA! and Ryoko Tani
      Her name is Ryoko Izumo, who made her debut in World Heroes 2
      Fighter's History and World Heroes 2, released the same year, 1993
      Ryoko Kano came one month earlier than Ryoko Izumo
      The main difference between the two is that Ryoko (FH) is a tomboy while Ryoko (WH) is a cutesy, feminine and pure gal

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 7 днів тому +1

      @@meganinten0078 And Ryoko has historical importance for being a lightweight type of character with command grab, a huge contrast to the current model in that period: grappler = Zangief.
      Also Ryoko is one of the first cute girls... in 93, a time when all females still had a strong "fighter aura" like Chun Li, Cammy, King, Mai, Charlotte, Sarah, Pai Chan, Sonya, Janne, Yung Mie, etc. The cute girls who defied that rule were Ryoko from FH, Ryoko from WH, Nakoruru and Athena.
      And the idea became a big contribution to the genre to push the options of character types outside the SF2 stereotypes. Then even SF ended up pressured to have cute girls like Sakura, and recently Lilly is a cute girl, and short, and has a command grab. Every franchise has at least one cute girl now.
      The problem is that FH (like WH) became obscure and can't get the public recognition for that achievement. The current public usually thinks the earliest cute girls are Sakura, Athena and Yuri.

  • @JoseMolina-ij3xx
    @JoseMolina-ij3xx 10 днів тому +7

    Wasn't Data East the champion for the first PvP fighter? Karate Champ? Which means they were the first to create the white and red gis.

  • @illustreightr2630
    @illustreightr2630 10 днів тому +12

    "Fighter's History Dynamite" is a much better name than "Karnov's Revenge." (That's it.)

  • @TonySkittleAlive184
    @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +9

    Karnov is featured in many Data East's games... Karnov is the very first boss of "Bad Dudes', Karnov and Chelnov are in the game "Tumblepop" as enemies' minions, Karnov is featured in the basketball game "Street Hoop" wearing hip-hop clothing, etc.

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 7 днів тому +3

      Karnov is one of the first guest characters and is probably the first fg character who came originally from a different genre, since FH is from 93 and Athena, Kensou, Ralf and Clark debuted in the following year in KOF 94. But FH is a small franchise that died very early and is obscure by now, so that historical achievement is meaningless.

    • @TonySkittleAlive184
      @TonySkittleAlive184 7 днів тому +2

      @@carlosaugusto9821 Facts !!

  • @IamLegend32
    @IamLegend32 10 днів тому +3

    I've always wondered why - if Capcom was willing to sue Data East for Fighters History.. Why didn't they go after SNK for World Heroes? They'd have just as much of a case there.

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 10 днів тому +4

      @@IamLegend32 Because Capcom thought it would be easy to sue and win against a small company like Data East
      As stated in the video.
      Capcom wanted to monopolize the entire fighting game industry

  • @JynxPryde
    @JynxPryde 10 днів тому +6

    1:35 The string of fighting game puns was terrible. I loved it!

  • @carlosaugusto9821
    @carlosaugusto9821 7 днів тому +3

    Ryoko from this game has historical importance for being a lightweight type of character with a command grab, a huge contrast to the current model in that period: grappler = Zangief.
    Also Ryoko is one of the first cute girls... in 93, a time when all females still had a strong "fighter aura" like Chun Li, Cammy, King, Mai, Charlotte, Sarah, Pai Chan, Sonya, Janne, Yung Mie, etc. The cute girls who defied that model were Ryoko from FH, Ryoko from WH, Nakoruru and Athena.
    And the idea became a big contribution to the genre to push the options of character types outside the SF2 stereotypes. Then even SF ended up pressured to have cute girls like Sakura, and recently Lilly is a cute girl, and short, and has a command grab. Every franchise has at least one cute girl now.
    The problem is that FH (like WH) became obscure and can't get the public recognition for that achievement. The current public usually thinks the earliest cute girls are Sakura, Athena and Yuri.

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 7 днів тому

      @@carlosaugusto9821
      I personally prefer Ryoko Izumo over Ryoko Kano
      FH Ryoko is a rude tomboy, while WH Ryoko is very femenine and cutesy
      I miss female characters that are very feminine and cute
      Nowadays there are two types of female characters, the $€×y or the tomboy

  • @mackchop3274
    @mackchop3274 8 днів тому +5

    I really liked Fighter’s history mainly because of Ryoko Kano. She subverts so many expectations because she’s the smallest character in the game, and is still an extremely powerful grappler.

    • @Burn_Angel
      @Burn_Angel День тому +1

      Her special command throw is the strongest special in the game, 'nuff said.

  • @johnrushman1586
    @johnrushman1586 7 днів тому +2

    I remember playing Fighter's History on my Sega Genesis. And Power Moves on my Snes.

  • @eDDyL666
    @eDDyL666 11 днів тому +8

    Loved fighters history cause SF was always a wait time to play

  • @carlosaugusto9821
    @carlosaugusto9821 7 днів тому +1

    It's interesting to think about the implications of Capcom monopolizing genres (practically) if they won that lawsuit and successfully managed to censor all other fg rivals. Then what would have been of the whole horror scene and the whole action scene after the creation of Resident Evil and Devil May Cry?

  • @TheTiltblazin
    @TheTiltblazin 6 днів тому +2

    I LOOOOVED Fighters History! Unique characters. My favorite characters were Lee and Ryoko! Gotta love Mizourogi fireball "TAKE A LOOK AT THAT!" Which, I presumably thought what he said. 😅😅😅😅✨✨

  • @bruceleeds7988
    @bruceleeds7988 11 днів тому +8

    I didn't think you was gonna go ALL THE WAY with the fighting game references

  • @LordHollow
    @LordHollow 7 днів тому +2

    Lotta people didn't know this: you could combo into command grabs. If a character had a special motion grab (command grab), they could hit the opponent with a normal punch or kick, then perform the command grab motion and it will go right into the grab for more damage. I love Ryoko.

    • @Burn_Angel
      @Burn_Angel День тому +1

      I think only grapplers can do command throws in Fighters History. So only Ryoko and Marstorius.
      But yeah, Ryoko rules, Cho Yama Arashi is the strongest command grab, and probably the strongest move in the game.

    • @LordHollow
      @LordHollow День тому +1

      @@Burn_Angel With Ryoko, you had to be super close to get the mountain drop, so I could only get one jab in order to connect. Any other attack and she would do the command grab where she switches sides and just plants you with her shoulder. Such a fun game.

    • @Burn_Angel
      @Burn_Angel День тому +1

      @@LordHollow I tried it, you can actually hit the oponent with a heavy punch and still connect a Cho Yama Arashi, but only if you're fast enough, and on hit. If it's blocked, the oponent is pushed away just enough for you to get an Ippon Seoi instead. Which is infuriating, because that's literally the weakest throw in the game, even weaker than Zazie's throw.

    • @LordHollow
      @LordHollow День тому

      @@Burn_Angel Ha! Nice! I wasnt fast enough back then, I see.

  • @keltrepes2534
    @keltrepes2534 10 днів тому +6

    For the last 30 years, it still sounds like Ray in Fighter's History yells "Baked Potato!"

    • @TonySkittleAlive184
      @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +3

      And Mizoguchi's "Tiger Bazooka-De" is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 9 днів тому

      ​@@TonySkittleAlive184
      "TAKE A LOOK AT THAT!!!"
      "THESPIO!! THESPIO!! THESPIO!!"
      🤣

    • @DEVOTED2YaHUaH144k
      @DEVOTED2YaHUaH144k 6 днів тому

      ​@@TonySkittleAlive184 😂😂😂

  • @israeldaley6348
    @israeldaley6348 10 днів тому +4

    This weren't the only game to mimic street fighter , art of fighting mimicked street fighter to the point where it's become street fighters weird brother, can you do a video about street fighter and art of fighting resemblances.

  • @chromadental3586
    @chromadental3586 8 днів тому +2

    Thanks for that discount on Steam 😅 78% off! Whoo hooo 😂

  • @F1ghtGam3r
    @F1ghtGam3r 11 днів тому +4

    Reminds me of Univeral Studios vs Nintendo
    As well as Pokemon vs Pal World

    • @Big-Mic7878
      @Big-Mic7878 11 днів тому +2

      Pretty accurate TBH things considered😮

  • @meganinten0078
    @meganinten0078 11 днів тому +6

    8:31-8:37 But Mizoguchi came up before Dan 😅
    Nothing against Ray "BAKED POTATO!!" McDougall but Makoto "TAKE A LOOK AT THAT!!!" Mizoguchi was always cooler
    Ray's popularity was overshadowed by Mizoguchi's.
    Even Ryoko was more popular than Ray.
    No wonder Mizoguchi became the main protagonist of the Fighter's History series in the last game and also appeared as a guest in The King of Fighters
    Hope we see him and Ryoko in new games

    • @conradojavier7547
      @conradojavier7547 11 днів тому +3

      Before Kyo Erasure, & Before Ryu Erasure, there was Ray Erasure.

    • @Lupo32
      @Lupo32 10 днів тому +1

      Liu feilin from the above game was
      In the remake of night slashers

  • @hadesthedarkhelm
    @hadesthedarkhelm 10 днів тому +4

    I literally was playing the sequel karnov's revenge 5 days ago, and I felt like it was super street fighter 2 - the new challengers.

    • @TonySkittleAlive184
      @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +2

      Plus how the music changes to a more dramatic and chaotic tone when you are "near K.O" • very similar to Street Fighter 2 😮!! But I have to admit, Ray's theme is awesome 👍 it has to be the best theme of the game!!

    • @hadesthedarkhelm
      @hadesthedarkhelm 10 днів тому

      @@TonySkittleAlive184 I agree.

  • @Varragos
    @Varragos 10 днів тому +2

    A collection of these for the PS4, done by someone like Strictly Limited or Limited Run, would be GREATLY appreciated by this old fighter!

  • @F1ghtGam3r
    @F1ghtGam3r 10 днів тому +2

    I never played Fighter's History, but I did play Karnov's Revenge a lot

  • @LordHollow
    @LordHollow 7 днів тому +2

    Can't copywrite a fighting style, Capcom!

  • @That1GuyUDontKnow
    @That1GuyUDontKnow 11 днів тому +2

    Everyone's wondering about the pokemon palworld situation and then I remember Capcom tried and failed.

  • @foyoGames
    @foyoGames 11 днів тому +7

    Yorkshire ...How do you Ken?
    I'll take some tea and crumpets.
    How R-Yu?

  • @neohayabusa13
    @neohayabusa13 11 днів тому +7

    I am glad data east won. it lead to more competition. I remember reading the whole lawsuit story on game mags back then

    • @TheTmnt1fan
      @TheTmnt1fan 16 годин тому

      If I created something and someone else was using it to get rich on I would make sure they would never work in that industry or anything like it for the rest of their life

  • @OmegaRedEX
    @OmegaRedEX 10 днів тому +2

    Bold of Capcom to complain about clone characters when most of the SFII roster were an expy or an ersatz of manga/anime characters with moves directly taken from those mediums, lol.

  • @SteveC-x6t
    @SteveC-x6t 11 днів тому +9

    Characters from these should've been included in the Capcom vs SNK series!

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 11 днів тому +4

      Sadly, Fighter's History is not owned by SNK
      G-Mode is the actual owner of the FH series
      I would love to see Ryoko Kano vs Makoto (Street Fighter)
      Ryoko was like the inspiration for Makoto

    • @sridrawings4510
      @sridrawings4510 11 днів тому

      ​@@meganinten0078G mode? It's owned by data east tho

    • @FelixMuk
      @FelixMuk 11 днів тому

      Errrr... No.

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 7 днів тому +1

      Not SNK games, just games released on SNK's arcade machine

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 7 днів тому +1

      @@carlosaugusto9821 Indeed.
      I wanted to see not only Fighter's History but all other fighting game franchises who were in the NEO GEO arcade machine to appear in The King of Fighters
      Maybe SNK could make a deal with to the owners of those franchises, like Sakurai did years later with Smash Bros
      Imagine a big crossover between all games who were on the NEO GEO, like Fight Fever, Fighter's History, World Heroes, Ninja Master's, Ragnagard, Waku Waku 7, etc
      One can always dream...

  • @ralphsunico116
    @ralphsunico116 11 днів тому +5

    I want Ryoko to make a guest appearance in Street Fighter 6. She is the most original character in Fighter's History.

    • @Nanashinoshi
      @Nanashinoshi 11 днів тому +1

      I think you can technical create her in world tour mode.

    • @Lupo32
      @Lupo32 10 днів тому +3

      Recently liu fen from fighters history / karnov revenge was a guest character in a remake of night slashers

    • @persona83
      @persona83 10 днів тому +3

      @@Lupo32 Also Mizoguchi appeared in King of Fighters Maximum Impact.

    • @Lupo32
      @Lupo32 10 днів тому +2

      @@persona83
      Ryoko kano is based on real life Ryoko Tani.... and makoto mizoguchi was modeled after fictional character momotaro tsurugi.

    • @persona83
      @persona83 10 днів тому +2

      @@Lupo32 Yes. Also, Ryoko took lots of references from the YAWARA! manga.

  • @yegenek
    @yegenek 11 днів тому +1

    Karnov's Revenge is one of my favorite fighting games. Also I always thought that tge first World Heroes game was much more of a copycat than Fighters History as half of the characters were literally the same with the Street Fighter characters except the looks and names.

  • @Yukeake
    @Yukeake 11 днів тому +5

    What always struck me as being weird about Fighter's History (ther original) was that they not only borrowed the control scheme and mechanics of SF2, but also the art style. Other early fighting games used a lot of the same mechanics, but if you put the characters and portraits next to the SF2 ones, you'd be hard-pressed not to recognize they were from different games. Fighter's History on the other hand - the art looked like it could have been from SF2.
    Combine that with the very (very) similar characters (Mizoguchi, as mentioned, is essentially "we have Ryu at home"), and it's honestly understandable how the lawsuit happened. The verdict, of course, opened the door for *lots* of imitators, but AFAIK none ever were quite so close to the original as Fighter's History was to SF2.

    • @persona83
      @persona83 10 днів тому

      Also there is the premise: other games like Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting have different plots, including vengeance and family affairs, while Fighters History has the same tournament thing.

    • @TonySkittleAlive184
      @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +1

      Plus how the music changes to a more dramatic and chaotic tone when you are "near K.O" • very similar to Street Fighter 2 😮!! But I have to admit, Ray's theme is awesome 👍 it has to be the best theme of the game!!

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 7 днів тому

      You lack knowlegdge of the release timeline of other games to understand that the biggest part of "SF2 imitators" were already out before the lawsuit. And Capcom lost very understandably, but the cheapest games died early anyways. So it didn't matter much. In natural selection-like dynamics, the stronger games lasted longer, like SNK games, and Capcom was not going to do anything about them... or else those should have been logically the first target since Fatal Fury is from 91 while Fighters History is from 93.
      Secondly, the early games around 92-94 preferred to take ideas from SNK games too, that were more creative mechanically. And eventually all Capcom games went all out in taking SNK's ideas as well. Like, SF only got dashes (invented by AOF in 92) in SF3 but some smaller games got dashes before SF, like World Heroes. At least only the backdash, which is a Fatal Fury 2 reference (foward dash is only from FF3). So that's one example of SNK influence on early games.

  • @carlosaugusto9821
    @carlosaugusto9821 7 днів тому +1

    Karnov is one of the first guest characters and is probably the first fg character who came originally from a different genre, since FH is from 93 and Athena, Kensou, Ralf and Clark debuted in the following year in KOF 94. But FH is a small franchise that died very early and is obscure by now, so that historical achievement is meaningless.

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 7 днів тому

      @@carlosaugusto9821 Long Live to Karnov!!!

  • @TonySkittleAlive184
    @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +2

    "Tigah Bazooka-Deeh"!!! • Mizoguchi WIIIINS !!!

  • @micshork
    @micshork 11 днів тому +1

    I honestly don’t mind some of these so called “Copycats”. Competition helps create innovation, which has given us so many great games over the years. Fighter’s History walked so that Karnov’s Revenger could run.
    By the way, would you consider covering Breakers and Kaiser Knuckle?

  • @jdlawless2501
    @jdlawless2501 10 днів тому +1

    Someone should send this info to the Palworld developers. Help them out against Nintendo.

  • @AllenJohn
    @AllenJohn 10 днів тому +2

    Karnou looks like the Iron Sheikh from the WWF era.

  • @yel6921
    @yel6921 11 днів тому +2

    i have this game featured in my 1993 (im not sure) electrnic gaming monthly magazine, even the images you use. its around the last pages of the magazine. oh nostalgia..

  • @kevinclear4007
    @kevinclear4007 11 днів тому +3

    Dude clearly the british rock star guy is Guile. The other guy is nothing like Guile.

    • @rageflash9
      @rageflash9 10 днів тому +1

      As a solid boom characters user, i also thought the same

    • @Spinning_Wave
      @Spinning_Wave 10 днів тому +3

      You dare call me guile?

    • @persona83
      @persona83 10 днів тому

      @@Spinning_Wave haha been playing FHD as you a lot, lately!

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 10 днів тому

      @@kevinclear4007 Matlock. The favorite character of Abe Simpson 😁

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 10 днів тому

      I have to admit, I like Matlok.
      He is like a generic enemy from a 90s beat em up who got tired of being beaten so he became a fighter and a musician 😁
      I like his themes in both the original FH and Dynamite
      I would like to see Matlok meeting Duck King (Fatal Fury/KOF)
      "SPINNING BLADE!!"
      "OVERRATED KICK!!"
      "OUCH! COME ON!!"

  • @milesprowr
    @milesprowr 2 дні тому +1

    How about addressing how Mortal Kombat was inspired by several things from World Heroes, which appeared some months earlier in Japan? Like the stage with spikes in it, or the 2 opposite ninjas, for instance? (1:28 one of which even named Hanzou).

  • @nathanielelloreg6574
    @nathanielelloreg6574 10 днів тому +1

    1:32 How Top Hat Gaming feels after writing this script: 🔥🔥🔥

  • @meganinten0078
    @meganinten0078 11 днів тому +6

    Unpopular opinion.
    The music of the original Fighter's History is better than the music of Street Fighter 2 🎵
    GAMADELIC (Data East's in-house band at that time) did an excellent job!
    In 2015 thet made a cover of Chelnov's theme, called 'Power of Coal Miner'
    In 2017 they made a cover of Mizoguchi's theme from the original Fighter's History

    • @Spinning_Wave
      @Spinning_Wave 10 днів тому +1

      YEAH!!! Best opinion here

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 10 днів тому

      @@Spinning_Wave Thank you :)
      I like all the tracks in the original Fighter's History
      Even the Character Select and Game Over themes are great!
      As for the characters,
      Lee, Samchay, Jean, Matlok, Clown and Ray have my favorite tracks.
      Sadly, the changed the themes for the characters in Dynamite and as much as I like those, I much prefer the music in the original FH

    • @persona83
      @persona83 10 днів тому +1

      Well, I think "better" is a little too much, but the FH OST is indeed excellent.

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 10 днів тому

      @@persona83 What is your favorite theme in Fighter's History?

    • @persona83
      @persona83 10 днів тому +1

      @@meganinten0078 To be honest I didn't play FH that much, but I really dig the "versus" theme. OTOH I played a lot of FHD, being Ryoko's theme and Yungmie's theme my favs.

  • @ThePirateburke86
    @ThePirateburke86 10 днів тому +1

    I’m in awe of how you worked in so many fighting game titles in that opener 😂

  • @yuscilfer1429
    @yuscilfer1429 5 днів тому

    "Street Fighter remains the King of Fighters, with the art of fighting in SF6 proving the the classic franchise still has the Killer Instinct to be one of the Eternal Champions. In this Virtual Fighter where World Heroes assemble, in a crazy twist even Terry Bogard can take part in Mortal Kombat".
    The amount of puns is impeccable.

  • @MisledDan
    @MisledDan 9 годин тому

    What I'm wondering is if Ryoko in any way inspired the design of Makoto in Third Strike-not necessarily the move set but their appearances are so strikingly similar.

  • @Xariann
    @Xariann 10 днів тому +1

    OMG Karate Champ. I played it on the Commodore 64. I completely forgot it even existed until I watched this video.

  • @suhtangwong
    @suhtangwong 5 днів тому

    Capcom: you stole from us, copyright!
    Data East: FEI Long, Mike Bison, shall we say more?

  • @boilerhousegarage
    @boilerhousegarage 9 днів тому +1

    9:43 Top Hat Man makes a cameo in the background!

  • @iamfiefo
    @iamfiefo 10 днів тому +3

    Baked Potato > Hadoken
    If you played Fighter's History, you get this joke.

  • @blacksmoke6292
    @blacksmoke6292 9 днів тому +1

    Liked Fighter History. My favorite character was Ryoko cause she looked similar to Sakura and because one of her slams does massive damage.

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 7 днів тому

      Ryoko = Fighter's History, 93.
      Sakura = SF Alpha 2, 96.

    • @blacksmoke6292
      @blacksmoke6292 7 днів тому

      @@carlosaugusto9821 My First time playing Fighter History = 2024.

  • @srsly9210
    @srsly9210 10 днів тому +4

    Street fighter is still the king of fighter proving they have the killer instinct 😂😂😂

    • @bg307
      @bg307 6 днів тому

      U missed Eternal champions

  • @Mr2000
    @Mr2000 10 днів тому +1

    Man I remember when this dropped lol! We were confused AF!!😅

  • @APRICEPRODUCTION
    @APRICEPRODUCTION 8 годин тому

    Surprised they even went to court... considering Street Fighter basically was inspired by the martial art films that came before. Even Blanka was inspired off of Marvel's Hulk.

  • @meganinten0078
    @meganinten0078 10 днів тому +1

    9:14 "BANANA ROSE!!" 😆
    I like Jean, he had a better voice in the first Fighter's History
    The first time I saw Jean, I thought he was a male version of King (Art of Fighting/KOF) or King's younger brother but grown up
    Both are french, blonde and like roses
    9:46 And don't forget that Clown is like Hisoka (Hunter x Hunter) if you know what I mean 👀
    Also, maybe is just me but Clown and Jean might be siblings
    They are both skilled gymnasts, are blonde, flamboyants and both think that they are handsome
    Clown's ending in FH Mizoguchi Kiki Ippatsu! leaves you with more questions than answers 🤯

  • @Zeitgeist997
    @Zeitgeist997 11 днів тому +1

    This is like baby lane getting kicked by a bunch of gangstas in Las Vegas at the Tyson fight but only picking out Tupac to take out. There was a lot of imitators but Capcom chose them to make an example of

  • @eDDyL666
    @eDDyL666 11 днів тому +3

    Jean reminds me of the character from Gymkata

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 11 днів тому +1

      The first time I saw Jean, I thought he was King's (Art of Fighting/The King of Fighters) brother 😆
      Both are blonde, are french and like roses 😁

    • @TonySkittleAlive184
      @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +1

      Jean even says "Adieu" (meaning Goodbye in French) when he wins.

  • @slackerman_music
    @slackerman_music 11 днів тому +1

    Nice to see some love shown for this game. I'm still hoping that some of the characters would make a guest appearance on a Future SNK title.

  • @avace917
    @avace917 6 днів тому

    You didn't mention the button configuration being identical. I thought that was hysterical when I first played this

  • @ziweiyuan
    @ziweiyuan 6 днів тому

    Capcom losing this suit was a great day for fighting games, as the legal precedent set would've possibly put Capcom in position to issue C&D's against any future fighting game it felt used too many of SF2's concepts. It is not hyperbole to say that we might have no Tekken or KOF had Capcom been victorious.

  • @hihosh1
    @hihosh1 11 днів тому +1

    Oh I can definitely see with the round 1 fight, the VS screen font, the lifebars. However Capcom can go screw themselves about winquotes which are common in all fighting games and also the slowmo ko animation. The fireball also looks nothing like a Hadouken fireball

    • @TonySkittleAlive184
      @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +1

      Plus how the music changes to a more dramatic and chaotic tone when you are "near K.O" • very similar to Street Fighter 2 😮!! But I have to admit, Ray's theme is awesome 👍 it has to be the best theme of the game!!

    • @hihosh1
      @hihosh1 10 днів тому

      @TonySkittleAlive184 sure, but pretty much all NES games had that kind of thing if you fight a stage boss. Heck Cadillacs and Dinosaurs also had slow mo as well as Streets of Rage when you defeat a boss character. It was replicating 90s and 80s martial arts and action movies beating the antagonist in a fight

  • @specter707
    @specter707 11 днів тому

    9:16 That wig isn't fooling anyone, Jean-Claude Van Damme.

  • @thrrax
    @thrrax 9 днів тому

    We had both SF2 and FH in the arcades, in some of them even next to each other. But we never thought they were very similar. I mean, sure, you had projectiles and cooky looking fighters, but that was about it.
    BTW it's not Jean as in Jean Grey, it's Jean as in Jean-Paul Belmondo, Jean-Pierre Papin or Jean Alesi.
    MaRstorius, not Mastorius.

  • @pierrelewis6819
    @pierrelewis6819 11 днів тому

    I will also like to meet a person, that never plays Street fighter, and saw fighters history, the superior game, and they've played a lot of niche games, and not so much the mainstream, all because, no one had it, and or had other priorities. They vaguely played Street fighter, but at the time, thought it was mid. Gave it a another chance, until Street fighter 4 came out.

  • @chumorgan443
    @chumorgan443 11 днів тому +5

    Man , if you didn't know SF:2 like the back of your hand you'd swear that was the same game.

    • @teckzilla108
      @teckzilla108 10 днів тому

      Facts. Similar stage themes, moves, templates....so similar

  • @gezeo750
    @gezeo750 11 днів тому

    Damn! Data East really came in there with the "Akshualy" when Capcom took em to court!

    • @TonySkittleAlive184
      @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +1

      Plus how the music changes to a more dramatic and chaotic tone when you are "near K.O" • very similar to Street Fighter 2 😮!! But I have to admit, Ray's theme is awesome 👍 it has to be the best theme of the game!!

  • @LawandOrder-fi5xk
    @LawandOrder-fi5xk 8 днів тому

    There were many games that were Street Fighter 2 knockoffs like World Heroes, Fatal Fury 2, Art of Fighting, Power Instinct etc. Why did Capcom only go after Data East?

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 7 днів тому

      Targeted the weakest they found, trying to make it an easy win. Still lost though.

  • @TonySkittleAlive184
    @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +3

    Mizoguchi... WIIINS !!! 😅

  • @GN-cj5we
    @GN-cj5we 21 годину тому

    Thanks THG . Happy the lawsuit got tossed, I really enjoy the fighters history games and still look forward to playing it today . I feel they did a really good job at creating balance amongst the characters, and game play that draws you in with its speed, tension and intensity. Didn't know about that strong and weak button strategy.. thats pretty cool and something Im going to try to master now..would be cool to play some people online.

  • @DungarooTV
    @DungarooTV День тому

    Ha ha loved it how you incorporated every top fighting game franchise in your introduction! 😊

  • @Jay-oz9qm
    @Jay-oz9qm 6 днів тому

    I use to want the Neo Geo system so bad when I was younger. Parents wouldn't budge. I wanted to play this game.

  • @Chrisezo
    @Chrisezo 10 днів тому

    I hate how game patents and stuff, are really stifling creativity, because game developers have to basically be walking around eggshells, as they can't get all of their ideas and stuff come to light, since they have to be careful not to step on anyone's toes, or else its a never ending legal battle for any company that wants to play the victim card. Like I get that companies want to protect their ideas and stuff, since game development can get really expensive, to the point that some new Triple A games have the budgets of freaking Hollywood films, but what sucks is that a lot of these companies aren't even making new games, so those patents and garbage are basically just limiting what gets released, and like I could understand if they made it so that requesting to use their patents or whatever, was as easy as paying a fee or royalties depending on how successful a new game could be, but they don't make it that easy, which is why its a real miracle that someone like Masahiro Sakurai, was able to borrow game mechanics and even characters from other game franchises, so that he could use them in the Smash games, and honestly companies should stop spending so much in court rooms and stuff, and instead allocate those funds to making better higher quality games, that can directly compete with those new games that are looked at like a threat, instead of trying to make up whatever legal story they can come up with in order to try and build a case, I'm specifically referring to Nintendo vs Pocketpair.

  • @calripplebear1293
    @calripplebear1293 7 днів тому

    there were definitely moves stole from street fighter. Like that Guile clone's spin kick. That's a joke the judge couldn't see these obvious copyright infringements.

  • @StarOfElyon
    @StarOfElyon 7 днів тому

    I remember Ryoko now! Lol. I wonder if they became the inspiration for Makoto (my 3rd Strike main).

  • @Demoncradle
    @Demoncradle 11 днів тому +1

    The puns at the start of the video are worth a Patreon subscription by themselves 😂

  • @Spinning_Wave
    @Spinning_Wave 10 днів тому +4

    Fighters history dynamite for the win

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 10 днів тому

      @@Spinning_Wave While I admit, Dynamite has the best gameplay
      I think the original FH has better music and voices
      Matlok, Ray, Lee, Jean sound better in the first FH
      Also, Dynamite is very hard against the computer 😅

    • @TonySkittleAlive184
      @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +1

      I agree.. obviously the graphics are better in the sequel (obviously due to the NEO GEO hardware) but yes the predecessor FH gameplay is better, the music is better, even the punch and kicks sound effects are better 👍

  • @pierrelewis6819
    @pierrelewis6819 11 днів тому

    I will love to meet a person that never heard of Street fighter, and or Tekken, until they saw Street fighter five and Tekken seven. They have played this, that, and the other fight games, just not Street fighter, until Street fighter five and Tekken seven. Hell, never knew there was a street fighter anime and the live action movie. They've been busy, with, this, that, and the other thing, but yet, somehow, skip over a lot of things, when it comes to Street fighter, and Tekken.

  • @KenMasters.
    @KenMasters. 11 днів тому +1

    Data East should've made both Fighters History games as Bad Dudes II & III.
    With adventure-modes, as well as Blade & Striker being the main protagonists instead of the generic and uninspired Ray McDougall.

    • @meganinten0078
      @meganinten0078 10 днів тому +1

      What is Bad Dudes? 😅
      Also, I think Ray is fine but Mizoguchi was always cooler and more popular to the point that he took over the role of main protagonist
      Mizoguchi is one of the best 'Ryu clones'
      He is fun!

    • @KenMasters.
      @KenMasters. 10 днів тому

      @@meganinten0078
      Ray is just Axel Stone and me… Nothing else.
      But I do agree, Mizoguchi is one of the best fighting game characters ever made, but not the star of the roster.
      Also, Bad Dudes is more well known than this game.

    • @TonySkittleAlive184
      @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +3

      ​@@meganinten0078Bad Dudes is a beat 'em up game made by DATA EAST ➡️ It's similar to how "Kung Fu Master" and "Vigilante" works but yes with better graphics than the aforementioned. Bad Dudes is available for PlayStation 4 and 5 and Nintendo Switch.

    • @TonySkittleAlive184
      @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +2

      I love the Bad Dudes ending. The main character is eating a burger with President Ronald Reagan in front of the White House 😂😂 • classic!!

  • @nehemiahpouncey3607
    @nehemiahpouncey3607 10 днів тому +1

    Back in the day Capcom was protecting their product.
    Data east couldn't even hide the fact they were doing it 😂

    • @TonySkittleAlive184
      @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +1

      Plus how the music changes to a more dramatic and chaotic tone when you are "near K.O" • very similar to Street Fighter 2 😮!! But I have to admit, Ray's theme is awesome 👍 it has to be the best theme of the game!!

    • @nehemiahpouncey3607
      @nehemiahpouncey3607 9 днів тому

      @@TonySkittleAlive184 right

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 7 днів тому +1

      Lost the lawsuit attempt though

    • @nehemiahpouncey3607
      @nehemiahpouncey3607 7 днів тому

      @@carlosaugusto9821 yep.

  • @NekobibuVonBibu
    @NekobibuVonBibu 10 днів тому +1

    FIghter's HIstory clearly is an attempt at surfing on SF2's success, like so many others. Now, is it a carbon copy? Absolutely not. The game has its own personality for sure.

  • @damn0knight
    @damn0knight День тому

    Bro, Muay Thai boxer 'Samchay' is based on living legend Saenchai.

  • @Paul07791
    @Paul07791 10 днів тому

    I remember seeing this in our local bowling alley. Years later trying to get it working on MAME with no joy. Good stuff, screw the haters.

  • @jerfuhrer2581
    @jerfuhrer2581 10 днів тому +1

    Everything that was on a Neo-Geo cabinet always felt like a cheap, knock-off game.

    • @Spinning_Wave
      @Spinning_Wave 10 днів тому +2

      Ain’t no freakin way you called all those legendary games knock offs

    • @TonySkittleAlive184
      @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +1

      Plus how the music changes to a more dramatic and chaotic tone when you are "near K.O" • very similar to Street Fighter 2 😮!! But I have to admit, Ray's theme is awesome 👍 it has to be the best theme of the game!!

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 7 днів тому +1

      Then it would have been easy for Capcom to sue SNK and shut everything down. But even the lawsuit against Fighter's History failed.

  • @NotYourUncleRuckus
    @NotYourUncleRuckus 11 днів тому +3

    Im early. I like the fighting games pun you done😅

  • @Rizzal6a6y
    @Rizzal6a6y 2 дні тому

    I love how you named all my favorite fighting games

  • @NamelessDeadUK
    @NamelessDeadUK 10 днів тому

    the first time i ended up playing street fighter 2 it was on the megadrive, Dont know if it was just me or what but i felt bein in england the megadrive and mastersystem where way more commonly chosen over the nes and snes

  • @Gamers266
    @Gamers266 11 днів тому

    Yeah I remember this one I was reading the electric gaming monthly magazine back in the day it's not really sound like a old man

  • @nathanrohde3440
    @nathanrohde3440 7 днів тому

    Unless they entirely copied the move sets and their timing, or stripped code, yeah its highly similar but there isn't infringement in a sane system.

  • @HebrewGamer100
    @HebrewGamer100 10 днів тому

    They went after Fighter's History but didn't go after World Heroes. Strange.

  • @JuggoJuggo
    @JuggoJuggo 7 днів тому

    The day that Capcom hand Mike Tyson a royalties check is the day I will watch the rest of this video.

  • @ultrakingrollon35
    @ultrakingrollon35 11 днів тому +38

    Sorry, I don’t play Fighter’s History, I play Street Fighter!

    • @damedan9389
      @damedan9389 11 днів тому +18

      Then you're not as cool as you think you are. 😅

    • @deathsnitemaresinfullust2269
      @deathsnitemaresinfullust2269 11 днів тому +11

      So! You want a cookie or something?!

    • @RogerCollectz
      @RogerCollectz 11 днів тому +5

      You know you don’t. This guys and ladies this the leader of the “Fighters History” fan club right here 🙂 🤮

    • @MrSoftypolimer
      @MrSoftypolimer 11 днів тому +4

      Sorry for you too

    • @DavidMyrmidon
      @DavidMyrmidon 10 днів тому +2

      Never Played Fighter History, but I did Play Karnov's Revenge (The Sequel).. it was Pretty Cool.

  • @retror.d.1630
    @retror.d.1630 11 днів тому

    Wow! You got me interested in this game now. I didn’t know all
    This about this game. Specially the Super famicom.

  • @SolarDNA
    @SolarDNA 11 днів тому

    Does anyone remember the sprite-based fighting game with the guy in blue with long blond hair and a three section staff? His name was Goldar and he had a special move where he'd throw a wave of water across the ground. He's the only character I remember. I know I sound crazy but this D-list arcade game existed in the mid 90s at the height of the fighter craze.

    • @funkrates4778
      @funkrates4778 10 днів тому

      It’s called “Martial Champion.” It wasn’t a three section staff but nunchucks. Where did you see it? Game was almost unheard of in the states. It’s a Konami game.

    • @SolarDNA
      @SolarDNA 10 днів тому +1

      @funkrates4778 I remember a local grocery store (Piggly Wiggly?) in northern TN where my mom lived had it alongside some older classic arcades in the entrance. I'd play it when I'd go down to visit her over the weekend if we went grocery shopping when I was a kid. I could have sworn I remembered him having a three section weapon. I thought it looked like three section nunchucks but wasn't sure that was a thing but I knew a staff is.

    • @SolarDNA
      @SolarDNA 10 днів тому

      Yeah I just looked it up and I got his name wrong too. His name wasn't Goldar like the Power Rangers villain, it was Goldor.

    • @SolarDNA
      @SolarDNA 10 днів тому +1

      @funkrates4778 And it does indeed look more like shorter nunchucks but if you look up his bio it names it a three section staff. Thanks for telling me the name of this game. It's driven me crazy for the past few decades. lol

    • @funkrates4778
      @funkrates4778 10 днів тому

      @@SolarDNA You’re absolutely right. It was a three section staff, a sangiekun. I just checked. Thanks for answering my question too.

  • @herbaldragonX
    @herbaldragonX 11 днів тому +1

    wait what happened to this game? it was suppose to be out on steam but it was removed :(

    • @TonySkittleAlive184
      @TonySkittleAlive184 10 днів тому +1

      It's available for PlayStation 4 and 5 under the title KARNOVS REVENGE.

  • @chucky213ferreira7
    @chucky213ferreira7 10 днів тому

    I had loads of fun with fighters history! When they announce the fighters name in the game was funny for me and yet cool too LoL.

  • @shikarbabulall3897
    @shikarbabulall3897 11 днів тому

    Curl himself into a ball , Blanka?.............looks like they used moves but mixed in just like how World heroes combined M Bison and Dhalsim's attacks to create Brocken

    • @carlosaugusto9821
      @carlosaugusto9821 7 днів тому

      Design wise both Bison and Brocken (and Kaiser Knuckle's General, while we are at it) are inspired by Brocken from Kinnikuman, a classic anime.

    • @shikarbabulall3897
      @shikarbabulall3897 7 днів тому

      @carlosaugusto9821 great so Bison was inspired by brocken from the anime and world heroes brocken was inspired by the video game character M Bison.

  • @8thdiagrampolefighter514
    @8thdiagrampolefighter514 11 днів тому

    Fighters History should've dropped on Sega Genesis since SF2 wasn't going to be ported to Sega for at least 1 year. But I get it, FH wanted to next to SF2 so bad