I personally loved BF1's gunplay, it challenges you to not only control recoil mechanically, but also control spread by bursting and shot-pacing, which is the mental game. Support class LMGs notwithstanding. Great vid Enders~
Yeah I have no idea what people meant when they say Battlefield 1’s random recoil and spread is super bad. It sounds like the people saying it were assault players trying to outclass recon in a 100m engagement- that’s not gonna work lmao
"where jimbotracktor97 is prone as a medic with a commando carbine in some location you didn't even know existed" haven't laughed this hard in a while. Well said!
Still better than 2042. I have to add that in MY opinion BF V is a really fun game to play in the state that it is in now. Gunplay, running around, sounds and everything. I really like it, and yes I played it since launch. Looking at games purely from a factual standpoint does not work. We don't play the game on paper. Actually playing BF V feels really good to me. Better than the other BF games. I don't care if on paper the other games are better :) all I know is 2042 is worse on paper and when you play it. The weapons, gunplay, aim and all the rest feels like ............
All this and he didn't even mention the condescending marketing fiasco and massive downgrade in atmosphere and immersion going from 1 to V. Brilliant stuff Enders, with you 100%.
@@darioja2469 I don’t really see your point, ww2 Can be just as immersive, but dice chose to go with steampunk feminism and a brighter color palate with V😕
I’ve seen multiple people in the bfv discord rally against me, convinced that the recoil system is consistent every time and is based on a learnable pattern. But there are two entire layers of randomness to the recoil, they couldn’t be more wrong. The only things I really liked about it are the in air ledge grabbing and rolling, I miss the ability to air strafe and slide like in bf4
Don't waste your time agruing againest rwords with less than 1kpm 1.5kd. you probably should block them all nothing valuable comes from these "people".
You can still sorta BF4 jump slide. Just run and jump and crouch and do not touch any wasd keys. When you land, you'll sort of slide a bit. But it won't be a zouzou hitbox animation glitch. Also milsim boomers are already angry that JUST sliding exists in BFV. Imagine their salt if BF4 bunny hopping and air strafe was back lol.
If the random recoil is so bad then you can just burst or tap as it was in BF3/4/1? Obviously it's not you'll immediately get sprayed down by someone who had no issue controlling said random recoil because ultimately it's not difficult to control. I'd rather lose a gunfight cause I'm bad rather than because the other guy's gun decided to shoot straight and mine didn't and there was nothing I could do about it due to extremely inconsistent weapon spread.
I know that for many (most) people i will look like complete moron, but Battlefield V (and battlefield 1) is only two battlefields i enjoy after battlefield Vietnam and 1942. I tried every bf, but i didnt like bf2, bad company, bf3 not even bf4, hardline..... Battlefield V mostly because of movement, gun feel, fluid gameplay overall is my favourite battlefield game.
i dont like 5 that much but i will still disagree with your take the gunplay aspect. BF1 was purely random and bfv at least the spread wasn't as bad. i just hate the sliding mechanic the most.
Battlefield 1 really was a masterclass in how to make a BF game. Pretty much every aspect in BF1: sound, maps, gameplay etc was tailored to captivate veterans and newcomers. It is essentially THE Battlefield to play. Unfortunately, it was the last and may always be the last great BF, a masterpiece even.
Said all BF fans always, BF1 is still better imo, the life cycle sucks all the fun out of it for me, I have to wait so much to play again, and then die to a random tank or infantry with smgs from extremely far, may be a skill issue, still don't like it
I just started playing BF5 and to be honest this game deserved so much better. Coming from someone who mainly played BF1 I adore the change of pace and really digged the gun play, but the way how EA and Dice spat on the fans regarding the historical inaccuracies had their graves on retail, and sadly it's nothing but a hacker hive right now, hoping that the community somehow will save this game similar to Titanfall 2.
I hate it . They nerfed the soldier speed and the ability to jump making the infantry movement horrible. Some people confuse the smoother vaulting as movement when it's not movement it's a action while moving . Soldier movement in BATTLEFIELD has been horrible since bf4/hardline. And they also destroyed the prone speed . You cant even jump to prone
@@Jordblitz im not sure i understand what your saying. But imo BF1 BF5 BF2042 soldier movement is bad imo . Its slower compared to BF3/BF4 and they also nerfed jumping. And added a delay between crouching and going prone with is just bad for infantry players like myself that corner jump and jump to prone in a blink of a eye to win gun fights . Its all about being slick when you are a rusher . Dice with bf1 and bf5 ignored the core movement from BF3/BF4. Heck you cant even jump and shoot in bf1 and that shows just horrendous that movement system is . I dont need a slide in BATTLEFIELD. On BF5 i removed it from my custom mapping but it still had a slow time to just go prone which is bad also
Totally agree. I’m still mad to this day because DICE and EA were disrespectful towards history and to the people who were affected by WWII by making the game focus on politics rather than history and also because they abandoned the game during wrong opportunity
Agreed with everything but the gunplay tho I do see your points you were trying to make about it, personally I felt it was one the best in the franchise,
My son when he does a triple kill: "Hey dad, I'm Enders!" 😂 Love watching your videos with my two boys! Keep up the good work! Loyal fan from Portugal!
Completely agree BFV was trash, it completely turned me off from the battlefield series and makes the downfall of 2042 even more hilarious because DICE never learned from BFV
I completely disagree, the game is decent, movement is better than battlefield 4 and 1 the down side is mostly you can't see the enemy, ttk is a bit flawed, and the auto regeneration isn't there, I'm betting you're just hater for this game
@@Bigcat726 I'm kind of with you. I don't think bfv is trash...but the gun mechanics are worse than bf4 and certainly worse than 3 but an improvement over bf1. The maps and vehicles are better than 2042. It's a serviceable game at least and it was at launch. 2042 is just a complete failure
I can agree on the stuff you say about BFV failures but the question is: is BFV more enjoyable now than BF2042 now, and a lot of people would answer: yes. I think most sane people don't say 'bfv WASN'T that bad' but 'bfv ISN'T that bad'. There are so many things wrong in BF2042 that I'd rather play a game with random recoil and the rest things that are wrong. Maybe I've been just lucky not to met a single person saying the things you mentioned in the video.
BFV has such slight deviation in it's recoil patterns (aside from when DICE decided to mess them up) I find it hard to even call it random. It was pretty easy for me to learn most of the weapons in the game and understand their best engagement distances just by using it enough and learning the recoil patterns.
@@sb17899 thing is, the recoil is LITERALLY random, the gun has a set recoil pattern, then on TOP of that the game converts spread to recoil which makes your guns kick in a random direction with consecutive bullets
Bf5 didnt feel bad to me just was poorly marketed and ended too quick the gameplay was good movements were amazing and being able to build stuff was fun it had its flaws yes but I enjoyed it so much and still do
Battlefield 5 was solid at its core🤷♂️ there were ammo and med stations at objectives don’t get mad because you didn’t have the attention span to pay attention to your health. The gun play was phenomenal. The squad call ins were a rewarding. There were some good memorable maps. The graphics were insane the sound design while a downgrade from bf1 was still insane. Mmgs we’re completely broken when mounted or proned (kinda like real life). Only 2 things were terrible in that game. 1 wokeness from the devs and the ttk changes. They killed the game when it was just entering its prime.
slap on a slightly higher magnification scope like a 2x or 3x on a full auto gun. it does not feel good to use the guns in the game for the reasons he spoke of in the video
Battlefield one also had a way better revive system you just quickly pop a needle in them and they come back to life full health. You don’t have to spend five seconds over their body charging up some bs.
BF 5 was god damn awfull at launch and some time after launch, but now it is a decent game. I see what you are talking about with the gunplay and this is an aspect that will allways be subjectional because it differs from player to player. What you like in terms of gunplay might not be what someone else likes and vica verca. Imo the gunplay in BF5 isn't bad. Is it great? no, but its a LONG mile off from being the worste one. BF1 imo had the worst gunplay out of any BF games imo. And as stated. This is my opinion and you have yours. I can respect that.
I think battlefield 5 was the start of Dice's mistake of drifting away from the hardcore element that battlefield always had. Bf5 had great visuals, but didn't have the other necessary elements to pull together an immersive atmosphere.
Jump shots its not call of duty lol. Movement was smooth for most part and the extra things like hanging on to a edge etc. Its the number one thing I enjoyed from BFV but hey each to their own
Was BFVs recoil always random? I remember early in the lifecycle getting a feel for the recoil patterns of certain weapons, then after one of the ttk changes everything felt off and noticed the gun bouncing every which way. Anyone else have this experience or am I making it up?
@@rareracecar true, and I think along with that, all the guns lost their identity as far as how they felt. That's what really made me quit the game just as much as the ttk change. The guns were boring and lacked character.
I rather play 2042 over V because of how bad V was on its own merit and the community grows more delusional on copnium or ride the hate train, but the points you mentioned were spot on completely
you, as a spectacular player, are a seriously small percentage of players, these mentioned gameplay mechanics will never get noticed by players that range from dogshit all the way to even great. during the game's life cycle they did some shady shit as you mentioned, especially with the ttk, but as it stands (with the sum of all the content that took forever to trickle out) bfv is an enjoyable game, that will get stressful at times. I'm not saying your opinion is invalid, nor the facts that you bring up, and I know you're reading this thinking how insanely idiotic I am, however I still enjoy your content.
Exactly. While I respect Enders opinion when your likely in the top 1% of the players skill wise you are NOT the audience they are aiming changes at. Why? Cause the 1%, or Id even argue the top 15%, of any given game can easily adjust/deal with a mechanic. Where as the other roughly 85% of people either cant adjust or wont even notice as a LOT of times its 1% here or 2% there changes. And coming at it with a "You just dont know dogshit" mentality does NOT help get your point across. Phrase it as "Yes BFV seems better than 2042 in hindsight but here is why its possibly as bad" and calmly make your points.
Just because most players don't pay attention to mechanics doesn't make the mechanics any better, they're still terrible for EVERYONE whether they know it or not. BF5 being enjoyable is to you is your problem, nobody said you can't enjoy it, just don't sit here any lie about the game being good when it isn't.
BFV was a mess throughout it's lifespan. It was ONLY at nearly the VERY END of it's support that DICE started making changes that improved the experience. The attrition system might have been an interesting idea on paper/in development, but in execution it was absolutely atrocious. Thankfully, the ability to run up and grab ammo/health from support/medics was finally added, helping players compensate for it. Also, medic/ammo crate(s) AoE effect(s) was finally added into the game, albeit at a much reduced radius when compared to the superior previous BF games. Of course, this still depended on teammates to actually deploy such gadgets onto the BF. It's bad enough in a BF game that has health regen and no attrition, but coupled with those systems clueless teammates caused (still causes) frustration to peak into the red. Gunplay was never really good. Time to Kill was never ratioed correctly to Time to Die. It seems that most players today either never experienced this phenomenon or conveniently forgot it, but when BFV first launched it could take you several bullets to kill someone but you yourself would experience a "burst" of fire (from even single shot weapons) that would instantly kill you. There was no escaping it. The problem was tracked to the netcode (surprise that a BF game has netcode issues), but the (then current) developers had no idea how to fix it. Instead, they opted to change the "balance" of the weapons by messing with the TTK. This change effectively killed the game. The change was implemented before Christmas, and was no changed to the most-recent version until after the holidays (sounds familiar, doesn't it?). When the TTK was reverted, it wasn't a "true" revert at all. It was yet another "balancing" that throttled back the extreme TTK changes of the previous patch. Of course, it was "praised", but that was only due to it being MUCH better than the MESS that DICE had created. It did nothing to fix the actual gunplay issue(s). On top of this, DICE released guns that had stats from before the TTK changes, thus making those guns EXTREMELY overpowered. Two of these are the Type 2A SMG and the M2 Carbine (which is really just a "ranged" Type 2A). People still praise the release of the Pacific DLC, which WAS good and a STEP in the right direction, but it was NEVER balanced before DICE ended support for the game. This is why you have these OP weapons, and the Type 97 Tank being so much more powerful than the other tanks in the game. These are just some examples, but not nearly all of them. The game can still be fun, but make no mistake that BFV STILL has many problems that will NEVER be fixed.
The spread in Battlefield 1 was hard to counter because the gun aimpoint didnt move to the location the next bullet was gonna go. In battlefield v you can always pull back to the starting point after each shot in full auto. the location of the aimpoint is almost always where the bullets flies in comparison to bf1 where it feels like the bullet bends the barrel. and the bullet completely misses the position your aimpot was aiming for. Battlefield v`s gunplay really is the better one at the moment.
Yeah, BFV was a failure for the franchise, but 2042 is a bigger failure imo. At least I could enjoy playing BFV for a long period, whereas 2042 is just a painful experience. We always say that the previous game was better because we only remember the good things it had.
I so strongly disagree with characters visibility part, comparing it to bf1. Playing bf1 was a nightmare for me, people in that game look like rocks they are invisible even cranking the brightness to full is not enough. It was like fighting ghosts. And the gunplay in bf5 is more suitable for an arcade shooter than bf1.
I personally didn't liked BF1 and BFV for its setting and casual mechanics and we really don't need to talk about the most noob friendliest game ever made, BF2042.
@@VagueSpaces Its personal preference, I stated with BFBC2 and enjoyed the franchise till Hardline and than Battlefield died for me. I tried MW and the movement and gunplay felt amazing but SBMM ruined it for me and I quitt it too.. As a console player u will have a hard time and u can only hope that WW3 will find its way to PSN and XBOX.
SO jimbotracktor97 is prone as a medic with a commando carbine in some location you didn't even know existed where is that hidden place jimbotractor97 is it a red or green tractor and Does it have a straight pipe .
Great break down on the BF1 & BFV spread systems. BF1 gunplay would've been even better if first bullet accuracy more fleshed out on the autos. Suppression removed would've helped as well.
Just the fact that BFV don't have suppresion already makes the gunplay better than BF1 or BF3. Horizontal recoil does the same shit that any other spread mecanisme does, it makes guns fights more random and put a effective range one the weapons. But it comunicates that something is happing instead of bending bullets to the left and right with a barrel not moving left and right. While the game had issue left and right (just like BF3 and BF4, with BF4 probably being the worst release after 2042), the gunplay was for sure one of the better ones DICE made. Movment is also the best I've seen from DICE.
im still insanely mad and bitter at how they ruined the game multiple times (ttk changes) then acted like it wasnt a big deal, and never fully fixed it. shit game both bc of that, the fact that recoil can decouple point of aim from screen center, and the random recoil (as opposed to consistent spread with reliable mitigation methods)
Tbh ive been saying bfv aint that bad since it came out, but i did only ever snipe and pilot so i personally didnt notice 90% of the problems people had. I did like vehicles having to resupply ammo. Health not so much. Visibility was bad, but it shouldve never been a problem in the first place, dont know y they didnt just reskin bf1 to keep the same visuals. My biggest complaint throughout: where tf is my 8x scope and m1903. M1903 is a classic ww2 rifle, and in every single bf ive always used the 8x, now i have to adapt unnecessarily. Movement was my favorite in the franchise. Crouch running, prone stances were some of my favorite features and wish every game had em. Squad wide "scorestreaks" were also awesome, finally something to incentivise booger eaters to do some squad play. Reinforcements like the sand bags and tank traps were awesome too.
The micro movements removal. Air control and you couldn't jump with momentum and 360 jump. If it was a more defined movement system based on bf3-bf4-bfh it would actually be good. But when they remove mechanics that are top tier. They fucked the game. Same goes with bf1. Enders on point again.
I never liked the air control, like, I do understand its a game, but how are you supposed to turn a corner while you are in the air going in a diferent direction?
@@Altair6306 that's called a skill gap u gotta be ready for anything and it also helps the game not be clunky. Also back on target fluid mechanics really work well with air control.
@@BringBack2Center Thats not skill gap, its more of a "bug" that the devs never bothered to fix cause the players never complained about it, it wasnt even hard to pull off. It was just a mechanic you had to learn just so you wont be in a disadvantage against other players using it.
@@Altair6306 @Spyti Only a noob would think wat u say. Gg for outing yourself as a brain dead bot. So basically wat u are saying is a "bug" that's been in the bf franchise for ever. Couldn't be made better. You really think that having clunky movement is a good idea because bf1,bfV could have been a hella better with movement if u could just jump and 360 and not be stopped dead. I know u know nothing about competitive movement. In any game. U wanna get easier kills and not have someone like me dodge you and u waste your whole mag. U don't even have to do this "bug" if u have aim.
@@BringBack2Center If I wanted fucking advanced movement I'd play Titanfall. Hell I love Titanfall despite being awful at it. I don't think people are coming to battlefield for it though. Movement in BFV is super silky smooth but not in an obnoxious manner.
I agree and disagree. Agree: I hate how people change their opinion on something in the past because something newer is disappointing. People say that about prequel SW due to the sequels. I also like how you remind people of what was wrong with BatV when it released. Disagree: I get the impression you haven't played BatV with friends consistently. I have only played it with real-life friends and we have awesome times playing as squad together, healing and covering eachother. I haven't watched your vids about BatV's gunplay so I will, but I love how BatV feels to shoot and move.
Btw guys these are all old clips. BF5 will remain uninstalled forever. Another thing, BF5 being terrible isn’t an opinion lol. The fact is, the game was a failure and had god awful mechanics and should never be considered acceptable. A lot of you have rose-tinted glasses on. If you accept BF5’s extremely low quality then expect to keep getting terrible games like 2042. Raise your standards. Wake up. Also, since when did calling BF5 bad become a hot take? LOL
You sound a little bit bitter. BF V was not great but it's an old warzone, if it was modern war like 4, more players would have been on it or if mag size was bigger. BF2042 needs a new direction and you'll be back
I kinda have to agree with your points and it's great you didn't focus on finance and marketing fiasco the game has had. Though there was one thing that ( at least in my opinion ) kept the game playable even though it was trash. And I mean movement system. It was polished and improved over the years and seeing 2042 movement system had its peak in V. It gave you so much flexibility on how you wanted to take on firefights that I missed it all already in 2042 tech test which I was lucky to participate in. And sadly, they didn't give a damn about players' input.
Too be fair, I've seen some pretty gnarly spread in bf1 when suppressed. However, when MY friends complain their bullets don't go where they aim in that game, they usually don't WANT to understand how to play better
of course your shots dont hit anything when you're suppressed, thats literally how that works. It's not random recoil, it's your spread being at max value.
@@EndersFPS People play it for their first time ever, have difficulties because they don't understand it, and then write it off as simply being "too unfair". Bf1 was my first and also favorite battlefield. I agree with you 100%. I'm just saying I can understand why people write Bf1 off. Not every mechanic in the game was spelled out in detail (which I kind of liked)
@@EndersFPS suppression automatically makes BF1 less fun to me than BFV. But even when not suppressed, BF1 has a lot of random spread that can be annoying.
i'm still trying to spawn without dying 2 seconds later from campers... i downloaded it a week ago and i have played ALL battlefields (minus bf 5, and 2042) and bf5 looked completely different to me (gameplay wise) & i was thinking of switching back to bf1. thank god i got bf5 for free with game pass , uninstalling it and downloading bf1 (again for free with game pass)
BFV was horrible AT LAUNCH. I got rid of the game after 1 month when I understood we were not be getting any new and descent map before a very long time. Because the first new map was fcking Panzerstorm. BUT NOW it s one of my FAVORITE game ever.
1:36 yep, I agree with this, I was excited seeing leaks about new weapons and other contents but then they just stopped the support lmao. This and that time when the ttk was changed during the pacific update literally was the worst.
Bf5 is mid if not still bad the bad gunplay the bad gun balancing and the invisibility and the lack of good maps make this game unfun breakthrough is also a clusterfuck it need to be fixed and the attrition as you said is sooo facking bad
This is exactly what happens with COD everyone always says the previous one was great compared to the new one even tho COD hasn’t been good since BO2 lol
I would say that BFV's gun play had an advantage over BF1 in that BF1 had the worst meta problem in all of BF games with the Hellriegel. I did enjoy BF1 but I didn't feel as if the whole spectrum of weapons were as viable as BFV. Also, gas grenades. In ww1 they threw gas grenades when close quarters combat was about to happen...like never. They didn't even have gas grenades. But gas grenades were ubiquitous in game and affected gun play all the time. Gotta put my gas mask on. Now I can only hip fire. All frickin' game sometimes. They should've implemented gas in a more appropriate way like having certain artillery pieces having the ability to fire them on some maps.
Your a negative Nancy. BF V had its ups and downs, but looking back and still playing it, it has good play style and mechanics. Color palette and graphics are good, if not better than 2042.
@@EndersFPS Yes, but the main point that people should take out of it is that the build quality and even the graphics for BF 2042 were worse than BF5! BF5 wasn't a great game, but it was decent compared to bf2042 which is the reason we are still playing it.
@@EndersFPS Im still purchase it LOL... i know what message you try to tell to us, but BFV it's not that bad i guess (except for the fcking cheater, prone medic with c.carbine and ofcourse a player who only go to war with tank)
Really the only people who still play BFV are people trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel due to 2042’s failure, cheaters, vehicle mains, and rats who continue to take advantage of limited health regen. Infantry play in BFV is 20 times worse due to limited health regen. Anything you basically do you’re punished. I can’t imagine spending over a hundred hours on this game with how awful this system is unless it was literally your job to put content out on the game. There’s just no excuse for a game like this to be this abhorrent and yet still have thousands of freaks according to player charts. Like they have got to be the strangest players you’ve ever met, I legitimately cannot get behind it.
It always had the potential to be a great game. If the momentum from the Pacific kept going we may have gotten the Russian theatre of war. But of course we had the 5.2 patch to kill it off.
unrelated but one of the best battlefield feelings for me was in the battlefield 1 beta playing on that desert map, the guns felt good, the cavalry was fun to use and the map was decent
All flawed aside I still enjoyed playing it a lot most of the time. And I think of they would have built on top of it, improving the issues, it could have made a great modern warfare bf6. Instead of what we have now. I like the movement and immersion stuff, the animations, Crouch running, meelee takedowns fortifications, grabbing ammo and health, rolling when falling and so on. I liked the squad points and call in system. All they needed to do is different maps, modern weapons and a general reskin. Adding proper anti cheat, community functions and servers and maybe change the gunplay but I never had issues with it. Also liked the tides of War weekly goals. Achievement system needed improvements, the gun skill tree needed change, how they handled factions and roles was annoying, giving you different weapons next match. But overall I really miss a lot of stuff from bfv in 2042 they discarded. And not just scoreboard.
Ok. So I’m not of course as good as you are but I have always liked BF5. Played it since the start and after have tried BF2042 for some months I’ve gone back to 5 again.
there's so many glaring issues with this game but when you play with friends and just fuck around and spawn camp tanks with them all game, it becomes a much more enjoyable experience
Bro, do you have a way to unify your sensibility across games? I see your gameplay is very consistent across different shooters, but when I jump from - say - BF4 to Halo or BF5 it takes me a bit to readjust to the sensibility. Any tips?
look at this, this is how far we have come. this is what 2042 made us do. ENDERS back in BFV. i am in disbelive, a game that said to be removed from enders hard drive forever after bf2042. but these developers proofed its possible to make something even worse. i am sorry for every battlefield fan.
I agree with everything you’ve posted before, but this one ain’t it. BfV was pretty good. One of my favorites actually. But that’s my opinion. To each their own
@@EndersFPS wasnt the content cancelled to "work" on bf2042 though? It wasnt canceled just bc it was "bad". I understand it isnt THE BEST bf, but it certainly doesnt deserve all the bad rep it gets.
@@EndersFPS The game was pretty obviously canceled support so they could work on 2042 lol. In hindsight it was a mistake since 2042 was an even bigger failure and doesn't show much hope for a return yet.
@@EndersFPS dude literally says he has enjoyed with everything youve made and said before but because he disagrees with you over one thing you call him delusional? how can a person be this fuckin snobby and entitled, christ almighty. only the worst youtubers attack their own fanbase
To me BF4 and BF3 had the best gunplay. It was fast and rewarded spread control and recoil control. To me the issue with BF5s gunplay was that it boring, unrewarding, and extremely slow. The recoil is also super bouncy which makes it random is many areas. You shouldn't be shot like 6 times and run away fine. If you peak wrong or run infront of a mass of people you shouldn't be a bullet sponge. That's kind of the reason I dislike bf1s gunplay as well. Also the gameplay changes and stuff suck in BF5. Not being able to heal without a medic sucks, Built in needles suck, picking up ammo off dead teammates sucks, smaller and shorter games is mediocre but okay, gunplay is wack, cosmetic system sucks, progression is boring and unrewarding. I know people are going to hate this take but the movement felt unhuman and weird. Something i like about both BF4 and BF1 is the little focus on advanced movement. It goes for a more minimalistic and grounded approach and makes it feel more real and immersive. It doesn't matter how shit bf 2042 is it doesn't make bf5 a good game. The only thing that bf5 has over other games is vehicle balancing between infantry.
Should never apologise for speaking the truth Enders it’s 2022 there’s a big big world out there if you saying the truth hurts ppl Now days they have no chance in life.
BFV was just as unfixable as 2042 is now, why did they even try? Visibility alone killed the game for me, much less everything else about it. it’s still second worst to BF1 though in terms of gunplay, at least in BFV you’re allowed to hit your first shot on target with every weapon
Thank you so much for addressing this BFV revisionism, it's just sooo annoying, people parroting the same vapid points over and over again in a circlejerk that's completely meaningless because they don't actually understand anything they're saying, are just objectively incorrect, or completely (intentionally?!) misinterpreting history with this game. Like just because 2042 was bad doesn't mean V is any better. It makes it sooo much harder to take most people in the community seriously when it seems like they don't even understand anything they're saying, I can almost sympathize with the devs for getting frustrated with player feedback. Like where would you even begin? How do you know what's good and what works? And it also just happens with every BF title lol. It just makes the games even worse when people ask for things they don't even understand and they turn out to be worse. Like... come on.
also people talk about how class readability is gone in 2042 (which is somewhat true and is a problem in its own right) but completely ignore that this was the case in BFV as well. not saying i'm against player customization necessarily (i actually like skins they're fun), but objectively, completely abolished class readability in BFV (without the HUD/UI) since any class can wear any skin/set/combo. like, whether that matters to you or not is one thing and subjective, but it is just a fact that they got rid of it in BFV and that whole thing started in that game.
So, I’ll probably get a lot of hate for this but I disagree. I think that BFV is a fun game. I like it better than BF1. Maybe it’s not the best game but I liked it and I think it’s sad that they stopped content to that game in favor to BF2042 now that we see how that turned out. I would have liked to see more stuff from BFV in BF2042. But maybe that’s just me. Have a good one and hope to see you all on the battlefield anyway.
I guess i should have watched this before saying how much more interesting matches are in BF 5 over 2042 recent videos haha. I didnt know any of this had happened. As i had skipped 1 and 5.
what i hated about BFV, is the little ammo u carried and the fact u had to manually heal and your health only regen to a certain amount unless u used a health pack. Another thing i hated was the amount of times they messed with the ttk over long range. Its definitely better than 2042, but it aint no masterpiece like BF3, BF4 or BF1
I literally agree with everything you said. The simple fact that actually my mouse is doing exactly what I am telling it to do, makes me enjoy it, after playing 2042 for 3 months. Make no mistake, we are living in a FPS gaming world where everything seems to be mediocre.
Hackers, random recoil, horrible tank and airplane balance, terrible TTK where it takes over half a magazine to kill someone 10m away and bad visibility. BF made me quit multiplayer games all together since they just aren’t fun and frustrating to me, I am horrible at FPS but there are a lot of moments where I can actually blame the game for my deaths which to me I just could not stand anymore.
I personally loved BF1's gunplay, it challenges you to not only control recoil mechanically, but also control spread by bursting and shot-pacing, which is the mental game. Support class LMGs notwithstanding. Great vid Enders~
battelfield 3&4 was way better
Yeah I have no idea what people meant when they say Battlefield 1’s random recoil and spread is super bad. It sounds like the people saying it were assault players trying to outclass recon in a 100m engagement- that’s not gonna work lmao
with call of duty type mechanics 😂😂
The gunplay was unplayable at first in bf1 for me. It literally took hours to find a gun I didn't mind.
"where jimbotracktor97 is prone as a medic with a commando carbine in some location you didn't even know existed" haven't laughed this hard in a while. Well said!
BF4 had a lot of them as well, just had to learn to pick them of with the Mare's Leg
This is now my name on origin with a nice picture of a John Deere tractor 🤣
BRO all most called me out Tractorfight is my name XD
Still better than 2042.
I have to add that in MY opinion BF V is a really fun game to play in the state that it is in now. Gunplay, running around, sounds and everything. I really like it, and yes I played it since launch. Looking at games purely from a factual standpoint does not work. We don't play the game on paper. Actually playing BF V feels really good to me. Better than the other BF games. I don't care if on paper the other games are better :) all I know is 2042 is worse on paper and when you play it. The weapons, gunplay, aim and all the rest feels like ............
@Mr Scratch I started playing bf V a few weeks back now on the ps5 and I've had a great time
@Mr Scratch The Consoles have very little / no recoil and cheats for console exist too and are literally not possible to detect (Chronus)
idk about the loanch but bl5 is sooo fun now sry for the spelling
With all its warts I still like BFV. I did enjoy BF1 but it seemed like the Hellriegel became ever present.
Being better than 2042 means nothing
I enjoyed BFV quite a bit, it's still pretty fun to just sit down and play with friends when I find the time to play it.
Speaking about relying on idiot teammates - have you ever resurrected someone?
All this and he didn't even mention the condescending marketing fiasco and massive downgrade in atmosphere and immersion going from 1 to V. Brilliant stuff Enders, with you 100%.
To me that was the main thing. It doomed BF V from the start. It had so much potential.
@@darioja2469 I don’t really see your point, ww2 Can be just as immersive, but dice chose to go with steampunk feminism and a brighter color palate with V😕
Atmosphere got sacrificed for woke trash..
I’ve seen multiple people in the bfv discord rally against me, convinced that the recoil system is consistent every time and is based on a learnable pattern. But there are two entire layers of randomness to the recoil, they couldn’t be more wrong.
The only things I really liked about it are the in air ledge grabbing and rolling, I miss the ability to air strafe and slide like in bf4
Don't waste your time agruing againest rwords with less than 1kpm 1.5kd. you probably should block them all nothing valuable comes from these "people".
You can still sorta BF4 jump slide. Just run and jump and crouch and do not touch any wasd keys. When you land, you'll sort of slide a bit. But it won't be a zouzou hitbox animation glitch.
Also milsim boomers are already angry that JUST sliding exists in BFV. Imagine their salt if BF4 bunny hopping and air strafe was back lol.
If the random recoil is so bad then you can just burst or tap as it was in BF3/4/1? Obviously it's not you'll immediately get sprayed down by someone who had no issue controlling said random recoil because ultimately it's not difficult to control. I'd rather lose a gunfight cause I'm bad rather than because the other guy's gun decided to shoot straight and mine didn't and there was nothing I could do about it due to extremely inconsistent weapon spread.
I know that for many (most) people i will look like complete moron, but Battlefield V (and battlefield 1) is only two battlefields i enjoy after battlefield Vietnam and 1942. I tried every bf, but i didnt like bf2, bad company, bf3 not even bf4, hardline..... Battlefield V mostly because of movement, gun feel, fluid gameplay overall is my favourite battlefield game.
i dont like 5 that much but i will still disagree with your take the gunplay aspect. BF1 was purely random and bfv at least the spread wasn't as bad. i just hate the sliding mechanic the most.
Battlefield 1 really was a masterclass in how to make a BF game. Pretty much every aspect in BF1: sound, maps, gameplay etc was tailored to captivate veterans and newcomers. It is essentially THE Battlefield to play. Unfortunately, it was the last and may always be the last great BF, a masterpiece even.
Said all BF fans always, BF1 is still better imo, the life cycle sucks all the fun out of it for me, I have to wait so much to play again, and then die to a random tank or infantry with smgs from extremely far, may be a skill issue, still don't like it
Remember the invisible players? Good times kekw
I just started playing BF5 and to be honest this game deserved so much better.
Coming from someone who mainly played BF1 I adore the change of pace and really digged the gun play, but the way how EA and Dice spat on the fans regarding the historical inaccuracies had their graves on retail, and sadly it's nothing but a hacker hive right now, hoping that the community somehow will save this game similar to Titanfall 2.
I still really like the movement from bf5.
I hate it . They nerfed the soldier speed and the ability to jump making the infantry movement horrible. Some people confuse the smoother vaulting as movement when it's not movement it's a action while moving . Soldier movement in BATTLEFIELD has been horrible since bf4/hardline. And they also destroyed the prone speed . You cant even jump to prone
@@Deeznutz581 don't say bf3 movement is better
@@Omepp BF3 movement is better alone by the fact that you don't get stuck on a tiny pebble on the ground like in 5.
@@Jousten16 this is not the movement and I never see that
@@Jordblitz im not sure i understand what your saying. But imo BF1 BF5 BF2042 soldier movement is bad imo . Its slower compared to BF3/BF4 and they also nerfed jumping. And added a delay between crouching and going prone with is just bad for infantry players like myself that corner jump and jump to prone in a blink of a eye to win gun fights . Its all about being slick when you are a rusher . Dice with bf1 and bf5 ignored the core movement from BF3/BF4. Heck you cant even jump and shoot in bf1 and that shows just horrendous that movement system is . I dont need a slide in BATTLEFIELD. On BF5 i removed it from my custom mapping but it still had a slow time to just go prone which is bad also
I agree with the negatives but there are more positives in V over 2042, currently I rather not play either but if I had to choose i'll play V
Totally agree. I’m still mad to this day because DICE and EA were disrespectful towards history and to the people who were affected by WWII by making the game focus on politics rather than history and also because they abandoned the game during wrong opportunity
Agreed with everything but the gunplay tho I do see your points you were trying to make about it, personally I felt it was one the best in the franchise,
crying about lack of recoil pattern that is fixed and not changing. Maybe dont try to shoot full auto past 100m?
@@gansior4744 it doesnt feel good at any range
What gunplay was trash you probably aren't any good at bf anyway
My son when he does a triple kill:
"Hey dad, I'm Enders!" 😂
Love watching your videos with my two boys! Keep up the good work! Loyal fan from Portugal!
Battlefield 5 sucked it's as simple as that, people are just saying it's good to feel better about 2042 but in my opinion I hate both of them equally
Completely agree BFV was trash, it completely turned me off from the battlefield series and makes the downfall of 2042 even more hilarious because DICE never learned from BFV
I completely disagree, the game is decent, movement is better than battlefield 4 and 1 the down side is mostly you can't see the enemy, ttk is a bit flawed, and the auto regeneration isn't there, I'm betting you're just hater for this game
@@Bigcat726 I'm kind of with you. I don't think bfv is trash...but the gun mechanics are worse than bf4 and certainly worse than 3 but an improvement over bf1. The maps and vehicles are better than 2042. It's a serviceable game at least and it was at launch. 2042 is just a complete failure
@@Bigcat726 Imagine being like “oh well the only problems are you can’t see enemies in a SHOOTER and the health doesn’t regenerate” like wat
I can agree on the stuff you say about BFV failures but the question is: is BFV more enjoyable now than BF2042 now, and a lot of people would answer: yes. I think most sane people don't say 'bfv WASN'T that bad' but 'bfv ISN'T that bad'. There are so many things wrong in BF2042 that I'd rather play a game with random recoil and the rest things that are wrong. Maybe I've been just lucky not to met a single person saying the things you mentioned in the video.
the playerbase itself has gotten better since 42 dropped, making the game more consistently enjoyable
The player numbers prove that it is. By far.
people's subjective enjoyment has nothing to do with the fact the game was a failure
BFV has such slight deviation in it's recoil patterns (aside from when DICE decided to mess them up) I find it hard to even call it random. It was pretty easy for me to learn most of the weapons in the game and understand their best engagement distances just by using it enough and learning the recoil patterns.
@@sb17899 thing is, the recoil is LITERALLY random, the gun has a set recoil pattern, then on TOP of that the game converts spread to recoil which makes your guns kick in a random direction with consecutive bullets
Bf5 didnt feel bad to me just was poorly marketed and ended too quick the gameplay was good movements were amazing and being able to build stuff was fun it had its flaws yes but I enjoyed it so much and still do
Your are spot on man. Everything toi said was what i would say
COPE you wasted money on it, its a sunk cost fallacy
Battlefield 5 was solid at its core🤷♂️ there were ammo and med stations at objectives don’t get mad because you didn’t have the attention span to pay attention to your health. The gun play was phenomenal. The squad call ins were a rewarding. There were some good memorable maps. The graphics were insane the sound design while a downgrade from bf1 was still insane. Mmgs we’re completely broken when mounted or proned (kinda like real life). Only 2 things were terrible in that game. 1 wokeness from the devs and the ttk changes. They killed the game when it was just entering its prime.
slap on a slightly higher magnification scope like a 2x or 3x on a full auto gun. it does not feel good to use the guns in the game for the reasons he spoke of in the video
battelfield 3&4 was way better
couldn't agree more my good sir
@@MrTankknaTrM where did I say they weren’t?
Battlefield one also had a way better revive system you just quickly pop a needle in them and they come back to life full health. You don’t have to spend five seconds over their body charging up some bs.
BF 5 was god damn awfull at launch and some time after launch, but now it is a decent game. I see what you are talking about with the gunplay and this is an aspect that will allways be subjectional because it differs from player to player. What you like in terms of gunplay might not be what someone else likes and vica verca. Imo the gunplay in BF5 isn't bad. Is it great? no, but its a LONG mile off from being the worste one. BF1 imo had the worst gunplay out of any BF games imo. And as stated. This is my opinion and you have yours. I can respect that.
Choosing between BFV and BF2042 its like asking which one is less harmful Heroin or Cocaine
literally
I think battlefield 5 was the start of Dice's mistake of drifting away from the hardcore element that battlefield always had. Bf5 had great visuals, but didn't have the other necessary elements to pull together an immersive atmosphere.
Battlefield ever had hardcore elements
BFV's movement is the best in the series how they went so far backwards with 2042 blows my mind
bro what lol
hmm yeah bfv movement was so good then I could get stuck while tryna vault and cant even do jumpshots properly
Sorry to hear about that, how long have you been diagnosed?
Jump shots its not call of duty lol. Movement was smooth for most part and the extra things like hanging on to a edge etc. Its the number one thing I enjoyed from BFV but hey each to their own
@@sir_smokalot2540 its a basic fps mechanic,stop using cod as an excuse 0kpm milsim boomer
Was BFVs recoil always random? I remember early in the lifecycle getting a feel for the recoil patterns of certain weapons, then after one of the ttk changes everything felt off and noticed the gun bouncing every which way. Anyone else have this experience or am I making it up?
The base recoil was reduced when the 2019 ttk was introduced.
@@rareracecar true, and I think along with that, all the guns lost their identity as far as how they felt. That's what really made me quit the game just as much as the ttk change. The guns were boring and lacked character.
At the release of the game the gunplay wasnt an issue because the point of aim was screen center
@@RusnakAutoDesign why guns have character it is not alive
@@noobyham7887 Then why they called live ammunition, huh duh bruh.
Your gameplay makes my brain hurt dude did a line of gfuel before playing
I rather play 2042 over V because of how bad V was on its own merit and the community grows more delusional on copnium or ride the hate train, but the points you mentioned were spot on completely
Your dellusional
At least it functions properly smg don’t have sniper range
How could you forget about revive system?
Guess you dont die often :D
"this game is horrible🤓" continues to play it
you, as a spectacular player, are a seriously small percentage of players, these mentioned gameplay mechanics will never get noticed by players that range from dogshit all the way to even great. during the game's life cycle they did some shady shit as you mentioned, especially with the ttk, but as it stands (with the sum of all the content that took forever to trickle out) bfv is an enjoyable game, that will get stressful at times. I'm not saying your opinion is invalid, nor the facts that you bring up, and I know you're reading this thinking how insanely idiotic I am, however I still enjoy your content.
Exactly. While I respect Enders opinion when your likely in the top 1% of the players skill wise you are NOT the audience they are aiming changes at. Why? Cause the 1%, or Id even argue the top 15%, of any given game can easily adjust/deal with a mechanic. Where as the other roughly 85% of people either cant adjust or wont even notice as a LOT of times its 1% here or 2% there changes. And coming at it with a "You just dont know dogshit" mentality does NOT help get your point across. Phrase it as "Yes BFV seems better than 2042 in hindsight but here is why its possibly as bad" and calmly make your points.
Just because most players don't pay attention to mechanics doesn't make the mechanics any better, they're still terrible for EVERYONE whether they know it or not. BF5 being enjoyable is to you is your problem, nobody said you can't enjoy it, just don't sit here any lie about the game being good when it isn't.
bro needs perfection from the sounds of it
BFV was a mess throughout it's lifespan. It was ONLY at nearly the VERY END of it's support that DICE started making changes that improved the experience.
The attrition system might have been an interesting idea on paper/in development, but in execution it was absolutely atrocious. Thankfully, the ability to run up and grab ammo/health from support/medics was finally added, helping players compensate for it.
Also, medic/ammo crate(s) AoE effect(s) was finally added into the game, albeit at a much reduced radius when compared to the superior previous BF games. Of course, this still depended on teammates to actually deploy such gadgets onto the BF. It's bad enough in a BF game that has health regen and no attrition, but coupled with those systems clueless teammates caused (still causes) frustration to peak into the red.
Gunplay was never really good. Time to Kill was never ratioed correctly to Time to Die. It seems that most players today either never experienced this phenomenon or conveniently forgot it, but when BFV first launched it could take you several bullets to kill someone but you yourself would experience a "burst" of fire (from even single shot weapons) that would instantly kill you. There was no escaping it. The problem was tracked to the netcode (surprise that a BF game has netcode issues), but the (then current) developers had no idea how to fix it. Instead, they opted to change the "balance" of the weapons by messing with the TTK. This change effectively killed the game. The change was implemented before Christmas, and was no changed to the most-recent version until after the holidays (sounds familiar, doesn't it?).
When the TTK was reverted, it wasn't a "true" revert at all. It was yet another "balancing" that throttled back the extreme TTK changes of the previous patch. Of course, it was "praised", but that was only due to it being MUCH better than the MESS that DICE had created. It did nothing to fix the actual gunplay issue(s). On top of this, DICE released guns that had stats from before the TTK changes, thus making those guns EXTREMELY overpowered. Two of these are the Type 2A SMG and the M2 Carbine (which is really just a "ranged" Type 2A).
People still praise the release of the Pacific DLC, which WAS good and a STEP in the right direction, but it was NEVER balanced before DICE ended support for the game. This is why you have these OP weapons, and the Type 97 Tank being so much more powerful than the other tanks in the game. These are just some examples, but not nearly all of them.
The game can still be fun, but make no mistake that BFV STILL has many problems that will NEVER be fixed.
The spread in Battlefield 1 was hard to counter because the gun aimpoint didnt move to the location the next bullet was gonna go. In battlefield v you can always pull back to the starting point after each shot in full auto. the location of the aimpoint is almost always where the bullets flies in comparison to bf1 where it feels like the bullet bends the barrel. and the bullet completely misses the position your aimpot was aiming for. Battlefield v`s gunplay really is the better one at the moment.
Yeah, BFV was a failure for the franchise, but 2042 is a bigger failure imo. At least I could enjoy playing BFV for a long period, whereas 2042 is just a painful experience. We always say that the previous game was better because we only remember the good things it had.
I so strongly disagree with characters visibility part, comparing it to bf1. Playing bf1 was a nightmare for me, people in that game look like rocks they are invisible even cranking the brightness to full is not enough. It was like fighting ghosts. And the gunplay in bf5 is more suitable for an arcade shooter than bf1.
Sniping is probably one of the only decent things about BF5
That's true
Same for BF1 imo, that's how I enjoyed the game the most. bullets landing where I actually aim was pretty great.
@@sb17899 BF1 sniping is fun but very little bullet drop and the cheap sweet spot mechanic made it too easy imo.
I personally didn't liked BF1 and BFV for its setting and casual mechanics and we really don't need to talk about the most noob friendliest game ever made, BF2042.
@@VagueSpaces Its personal preference, I stated with BFBC2 and enjoyed the franchise till Hardline and than Battlefield died for me. I tried MW and the movement and gunplay felt amazing but SBMM ruined it for me and I quitt it too.. As a console player u will have a hard time and u can only hope that WW3 will find its way to PSN and XBOX.
Wait, then you for sure didn't like BF3 and BF4 casual mechanics.
SO jimbotracktor97 is prone as a medic with a commando carbine in some location you didn't even know existed
where is that hidden place jimbotractor97 is it a red or green tractor and Does it have a straight pipe .
Great break down on the BF1 & BFV spread systems. BF1 gunplay would've been even better if first bullet accuracy more fleshed out on the autos. Suppression removed would've helped as well.
Bf5 suffers from the “arcadey” style that was brought about by battlefront. No design consistency.
BFV is why I did not pre-purchase 2042. Finally learned my lesson and now I don't know if I'll ever buy a DICE product again. RIP Battlefield.
Just the fact that BFV don't have suppresion already makes the gunplay better than BF1 or BF3. Horizontal recoil does the same shit that any other spread mecanisme does, it makes guns fights more random and put a effective range one the weapons. But it comunicates that something is happing instead of bending bullets to the left and right with a barrel not moving left and right. While the game had issue left and right (just like BF3 and BF4, with BF4 probably being the worst release after 2042), the gunplay was for sure one of the better ones DICE made. Movment is also the best I've seen from DICE.
im still insanely mad and bitter at how they ruined the game multiple times (ttk changes) then acted like it wasnt a big deal, and never fully fixed it. shit game both bc of that, the fact that recoil can decouple point of aim from screen center, and the random recoil (as opposed to consistent spread with reliable mitigation methods)
If you think your team need a better medic. YOU be the medic.
I am the medic, it’s not enough
What was cancelled for BFV? There was supposed to be more DLC?
Yes, they cancelled content for the game entirely lol
Tbh ive been saying bfv aint that bad since it came out, but i did only ever snipe and pilot so i personally didnt notice 90% of the problems people had. I did like vehicles having to resupply ammo. Health not so much. Visibility was bad, but it shouldve never been a problem in the first place, dont know y they didnt just reskin bf1 to keep the same visuals. My biggest complaint throughout: where tf is my 8x scope and m1903. M1903 is a classic ww2 rifle, and in every single bf ive always used the 8x, now i have to adapt unnecessarily. Movement was my favorite in the franchise. Crouch running, prone stances were some of my favorite features and wish every game had em. Squad wide "scorestreaks" were also awesome, finally something to incentivise booger eaters to do some squad play. Reinforcements like the sand bags and tank traps were awesome too.
People don’t have standards anymore
It’s crazy man. If people accept BF5 as good then what the fuck is the point anymore?
The micro movements removal. Air control and you couldn't jump with momentum and 360 jump. If it was a more defined movement system based on bf3-bf4-bfh it would actually be good. But when they remove mechanics that are top tier. They fucked the game. Same goes with bf1. Enders on point again.
I never liked the air control, like, I do understand its a game, but how are you supposed to turn a corner while you are in the air going in a diferent direction?
@@Altair6306 that's called a skill gap u gotta be ready for anything and it also helps the game not be clunky. Also back on target fluid mechanics really work well with air control.
@@BringBack2Center Thats not skill gap, its more of a "bug" that the devs never bothered to fix cause the players never complained about it, it wasnt even hard to pull off. It was just a mechanic you had to learn just so you wont be in a disadvantage against other players using it.
@@Altair6306 @Spyti Only a noob would think wat u say. Gg for outing yourself as a brain dead bot. So basically wat u are saying is a "bug" that's been in the bf franchise for ever. Couldn't be made better. You really think that having clunky movement is a good idea because bf1,bfV could have been a hella better with movement if u could just jump and 360 and not be stopped dead. I know u know nothing about competitive movement. In any game. U wanna get easier kills and not have someone like me dodge you and u waste your whole mag. U don't even have to do this "bug" if u have aim.
@@BringBack2Center If I wanted fucking advanced movement I'd play Titanfall. Hell I love Titanfall despite being awful at it. I don't think people are coming to battlefield for it though. Movement in BFV is super silky smooth but not in an obnoxious manner.
I agree and disagree.
Agree:
I hate how people change their opinion on something in the past because something newer is disappointing. People say that about prequel SW due to the sequels. I also like how you remind people of what was wrong with BatV when it released.
Disagree:
I get the impression you haven't played BatV with friends consistently. I have only played it with real-life friends and we have awesome times playing as squad together, healing and covering eachother. I haven't watched your vids about BatV's gunplay so I will, but I love how BatV feels to shoot and move.
Bro this is why gaming is worse by the day, people seem to lower their standarts so fast
I like how you swear in your videos. Adds character.
haha
Btw guys these are all old clips. BF5 will remain uninstalled forever. Another thing, BF5 being terrible isn’t an opinion lol. The fact is, the game was a failure and had god awful mechanics and should never be considered acceptable. A lot of you have rose-tinted glasses on. If you accept BF5’s extremely low quality then expect to keep getting terrible games like 2042. Raise your standards. Wake up.
Also, since when did calling BF5 bad become a hot take? LOL
Preaching to the choir. I've been saying this for too long. Being worse doesn't polish garbage.
You sound a little bit bitter. BF V was not great but it's an old warzone, if it was modern war like 4, more players would have been on it or if mag size was bigger. BF2042 needs a new direction and you'll be back
I kinda have to agree with your points and it's great you didn't focus on finance and marketing fiasco the game has had. Though there was one thing that ( at least in my opinion ) kept the game playable even though it was trash. And I mean movement system. It was polished and improved over the years and seeing 2042 movement system had its peak in V. It gave you so much flexibility on how you wanted to take on firefights that I missed it all already in 2042 tech test which I was lucky to participate in. And sadly, they didn't give a damn about players' input.
Thats a major advantage bf5 has against the other games but i guess people really don't care
Too be fair, I've seen some pretty gnarly spread in bf1 when suppressed. However, when MY friends complain their bullets don't go where they aim in that game, they usually don't WANT to understand how to play better
of course your shots dont hit anything when you're suppressed, thats literally how that works. It's not random recoil, it's your spread being at max value.
@@EndersFPS People play it for their first time ever, have difficulties because they don't understand it, and then write it off as simply being "too unfair".
Bf1 was my first and also favorite battlefield. I agree with you 100%. I'm just saying I can understand why people write Bf1 off. Not every mechanic in the game was spelled out in detail (which I kind of liked)
@@EndersFPS suppression automatically makes BF1 less fun to me than BFV. But even when not suppressed, BF1 has a lot of random spread that can be annoying.
i'm still trying to spawn without dying 2 seconds later from campers... i downloaded it a week ago and i have played ALL battlefields (minus bf 5, and 2042) and bf5 looked completely different to me (gameplay wise) & i was thinking of switching back to bf1. thank god i got bf5 for free with game pass , uninstalling it and downloading bf1 (again for free with game pass)
BFV was horrible AT LAUNCH. I got rid of the game after 1 month when I understood we were not be getting any new and descent map before a very long time. Because the first new map was fcking Panzerstorm. BUT NOW it s one of my FAVORITE game ever.
1:36 yep, I agree with this, I was excited seeing leaks about new weapons and other contents but then they just stopped the support lmao. This and that time when the ttk was changed during the pacific update literally was the worst.
Bf5 is so bad, visibility is so bad. Movements of soldiers r so fast & unnatural.
I'm going to buy my first Battlefield and I don't know which one to buy. Any suggestions for someone looking to get into the Battlefield franchise?
The way you said tomfoolery and shenanigans was hilarious lmao
Bf5 is mid if not still bad the bad gunplay the bad gun balancing and the invisibility and the lack of good maps make this game unfun breakthrough is also a clusterfuck it need to be fixed and the attrition as you said is sooo facking bad
This is exactly what happens with COD everyone always says the previous one was great compared to the new one even tho COD hasn’t been good since BO2 lol
I would say that BFV's gun play had an advantage over BF1 in that BF1 had the worst meta problem in all of BF games with the Hellriegel. I did enjoy BF1 but I didn't feel as if the whole spectrum of weapons were as viable as BFV. Also, gas grenades. In ww1 they threw gas grenades when close quarters combat was about to happen...like never. They didn't even have gas grenades. But gas grenades were ubiquitous in game and affected gun play all the time. Gotta put my gas mask on. Now I can only hip fire. All frickin' game sometimes. They should've implemented gas in a more appropriate way like having certain artillery pieces having the ability to fire them on some maps.
"The game is a pile of trash." *still plays the game* People like this are contradicting constantly and ironic themselves.
Lol these are old clips. He’s not still playing the game. I guarantee that.
Your a negative Nancy. BF V had its ups and downs, but looking back and still playing it, it has good play style and mechanics. Color palette and graphics are good, if not better than 2042.
im a correct nancy
@@EndersFPS still having a great time playing it 🤷♂️ and many others are too
@@cadendufrene nobody said you cant have a good time, just dont sit here and act like its a good game when it isnt
@@EndersFPS Yes, but the main point that people should take out of it is that the build quality and even the graphics for BF 2042 were worse than BF5! BF5 wasn't a great game, but it was decent compared to bf2042 which is the reason we are still playing it.
@@EndersFPS Im still purchase it LOL... i know what message you try to tell to us, but BFV it's not that bad i guess (except for the fcking cheater, prone medic with c.carbine and ofcourse a player who only go to war with tank)
Really the only people who still play BFV are people trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel due to 2042’s failure, cheaters, vehicle mains, and rats who continue to take advantage of limited health regen.
Infantry play in BFV is 20 times worse due to limited health regen. Anything you basically do you’re punished. I can’t imagine spending over a hundred hours on this game with how awful this system is unless it was literally your job to put content out on the game. There’s just no excuse for a game like this to be this abhorrent and yet still have thousands of freaks according to player charts. Like they have got to be the strangest players you’ve ever met, I legitimately cannot get behind it.
It always had the potential to be a great game. If the momentum from the Pacific kept going we may have gotten the Russian theatre of war. But of course we had the 5.2 patch to kill it off.
unrelated but one of the best battlefield feelings for me was in the battlefield 1 beta playing on that desert map, the guns felt good, the cavalry was fun to use and the map was decent
All flawed aside I still enjoyed playing it a lot most of the time. And I think of they would have built on top of it, improving the issues, it could have made a great modern warfare bf6. Instead of what we have now. I like the movement and immersion stuff, the animations, Crouch running, meelee takedowns fortifications, grabbing ammo and health, rolling when falling and so on. I liked the squad points and call in system. All they needed to do is different maps, modern weapons and a general reskin. Adding proper anti cheat, community functions and servers and maybe change the gunplay but I never had issues with it. Also liked the tides of War weekly goals. Achievement system needed improvements, the gun skill tree needed change, how they handled factions and roles was annoying, giving you different weapons next match. But overall I really miss a lot of stuff from bfv in 2042 they discarded. And not just scoreboard.
Ok. So I’m not of course as good as you are but I have always liked BF5. Played it since the start and after have tried BF2042 for some months I’ve gone back to 5 again.
Maybe all run around in hi vis clothing will make it easier to see the enemies. Don’t worry about camouflage.
BF5 and BF2042 must be better than previous installments because you keep playing them instead the old ones.
@null Well that's stupid. 😂😅
there's so many glaring issues with this game but when you play with friends and just fuck around and spawn camp tanks with them all game, it becomes a much more enjoyable experience
Bros complaining about cheaters but looks like he got aimbot himself ahaha
Bro, do you have a way to unify your sensibility across games? I see your gameplay is very consistent across different shooters, but when I jump from - say - BF4 to Halo or BF5 it takes me a bit to readjust to the sensibility.
Any tips?
They left service for bf5 so they could make sure to NOT fail again! And use. Xtra time. But still we got something Worse !!
look at this, this is how far we have come. this is what 2042 made us do. ENDERS back in BFV. i am in disbelive, a game that said to be removed from enders hard drive forever after bf2042. but these developers proofed its possible to make something even worse. i am sorry for every battlefield fan.
Im not back on BF5 lmao, these are all old clips. BF5 will remain uninstalled forever
I agree with everything you’ve posted before, but this one ain’t it. BfV was pretty good. One of my favorites actually. But that’s my opinion.
To each their own
Delusional. I just can't believe this honestly lmao. How can you say BF5 was a good game when it was an abject failure? The content was CANCELLED
@@EndersFPS wasnt the content cancelled to "work" on bf2042 though? It wasnt canceled just bc it was "bad".
I understand it isnt THE BEST bf, but it certainly doesnt deserve all the bad rep it gets.
@@EndersFPS The game was pretty obviously canceled support so they could work on 2042 lol. In hindsight it was a mistake since 2042 was an even bigger failure and doesn't show much hope for a return yet.
@@EndersFPS dude literally says he has enjoyed with everything youve made and said before but because he disagrees with you over one thing you call him delusional? how can a person be this fuckin snobby and entitled, christ almighty. only the worst youtubers attack their own fanbase
To me BF4 and BF3 had the best gunplay. It was fast and rewarded spread control and recoil control. To me the issue with BF5s gunplay was that it boring, unrewarding, and extremely slow. The recoil is also super bouncy which makes it random is many areas. You shouldn't be shot like 6 times and run away fine. If you peak wrong or run infront of a mass of people you shouldn't be a bullet sponge. That's kind of the reason I dislike bf1s gunplay as well. Also the gameplay changes and stuff suck in BF5. Not being able to heal without a medic sucks, Built in needles suck, picking up ammo off dead teammates sucks, smaller and shorter games is mediocre but okay, gunplay is wack, cosmetic system sucks, progression is boring and unrewarding. I know people are going to hate this take but the movement felt unhuman and weird. Something i like about both BF4 and BF1 is the little focus on advanced movement. It goes for a more minimalistic and grounded approach and makes it feel more real and immersive. It doesn't matter how shit bf 2042 is it doesn't make bf5 a good game. The only thing that bf5 has over other games is vehicle balancing between infantry.
Should never apologise for speaking the truth Enders it’s 2022 there’s a big big world out there if you saying the truth hurts ppl
Now days they have no chance in life.
BFV was just as unfixable as 2042 is now, why did they even try? Visibility alone killed the game for me, much less everything else about it.
it’s still second worst to BF1 though in terms of gunplay, at least in BFV you’re allowed to hit your first shot on target with every weapon
BF1 had second shot multipliers not first I dont think
The visibility killed this game for me. Could not deal with that !
The little time they put into recon annoyed me, little damage, and 6 bolt action rifles, BRUH GIVE ME A MOSIN!!!
Thank you so much for addressing this BFV revisionism, it's just sooo annoying, people parroting the same vapid points over and over again in a circlejerk that's completely meaningless because they don't actually understand anything they're saying, are just objectively incorrect, or completely (intentionally?!) misinterpreting history with this game. Like just because 2042 was bad doesn't mean V is any better. It makes it sooo much harder to take most people in the community seriously when it seems like they don't even understand anything they're saying, I can almost sympathize with the devs for getting frustrated with player feedback. Like where would you even begin? How do you know what's good and what works? And it also just happens with every BF title lol. It just makes the games even worse when people ask for things they don't even understand and they turn out to be worse. Like... come on.
also people talk about how class readability is gone in 2042 (which is somewhat true and is a problem in its own right) but completely ignore that this was the case in BFV as well. not saying i'm against player customization necessarily (i actually like skins they're fun), but objectively, completely abolished class readability in BFV (without the HUD/UI) since any class can wear any skin/set/combo. like, whether that matters to you or not is one thing and subjective, but it is just a fact that they got rid of it in BFV and that whole thing started in that game.
So, I’ll probably get a lot of hate for this but I disagree. I think that BFV is a fun game. I like it better than BF1.
Maybe it’s not the best game but I liked it and I think it’s sad that they stopped content to that game in favor to BF2042 now that we see how that turned out.
I would have liked to see more stuff from BFV in BF2042. But maybe that’s just me.
Have a good one and hope to see you all on the battlefield anyway.
bf5 is game u gona have fun best gunplay
I guess i should have watched this before saying how much more interesting matches are in BF 5 over 2042 recent videos haha. I didnt know any of this had happened. As i had skipped 1 and 5.
what i hated about BFV, is the little ammo u carried and the fact u had to manually heal and your health only regen to a certain amount unless u used a health pack. Another thing i hated was the amount of times they messed with the ttk over long range. Its definitely better than 2042, but it aint no masterpiece like BF3, BF4 or BF1
You are playing with a Golden submachine gun with a reflex pink sight and you are asking if BFV was bad?
like that matters at all
@@EndersFPS it does lol, not to you since you arent true BF apparently
lol who else just loves the fuck out of Enders for how he gives you raw non-sugar coating alpha info
I literally agree with everything you said. The simple fact that actually my mouse is doing exactly what I am telling it to do, makes me enjoy it, after playing 2042 for 3 months.
Make no mistake, we are living in a FPS gaming world where everything seems to be mediocre.
No BFV wasn't that bad i just got bored with it
You are god damn right. Thanks for reminder how bad was BF 5 at begging
Hackers, random recoil, horrible tank and airplane balance, terrible TTK where it takes over half a magazine to kill someone 10m away and bad visibility. BF made me quit multiplayer games all together since they just aren’t fun and frustrating to me, I am horrible at FPS but there are a lot of moments where I can actually blame the game for my deaths which to me I just could not stand anymore.
Answer: yes
people always say its good once a new game comes out and the dont like the new one