The airline I work for doesn't have a union but they make up for that by providing exceptional contracts including full medical, dental, ljfe and even loss of license insurance. They keep us happy and unionless. This is the exception not the norm in the airline world. Oh and even after 23+ years at my airline and really, really good seniority, I'm still not guaranteed to get the trips I bid. Great video, excellent tips!
@@iPlayOnSpica Based in Guatemala (GUA MGGT), subsidiary of a major express and logistics company flying B757. You start out as an ATR-42 FO regardless of previous experience, I was a jet Captain (BA11 old job) when hired, still took me around 18 years to reach Captain B757. So patience was required. As a friend says, no perfect job in this world.
Why don't pilots start their own airline and pay themselves whatever they want and get all the profits? Call it Union Airlines or Air Union or Union Airways
Thanks Joe. Great and needed disillusionment for me. Getting a PPL should cater and fulfill my hunger and desire for aircrafts and speed, rather than regretting not becoming a commercial pilot.
This really was very informative and a good insight into the life of a *COMMERCIAL* pilot. But yeah, it doesn't really translate well into casual or PPL-level life for most of us.
Talk about plan B - I once ran into a gas station attendant here in Canada. He told me he came from Poland and used to be an airline captain. When he came to Canada, he was expecting to hire on with a Canadian airline, but no airline accepted his Polish credentials. So he had to work at a gas station to earn his money for flying lessons all over again. Man, I really felt for the guy...
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It happened to me as well in Montreal, QC. I ended up leaving the country to continue my flying career. I decided NOT to waste my time there. I got Canadian ATP the month after I signed a contract overseas to fly 737 Max. Off course I can not judge anyone, but if you have options, better keep doing what you love. No country no matter what, will give you the retribution and joy that come from flying *in the case of pilots.
that dosent make any sense, if he was a captain with an ATPL EASA (which he must have as a captain) license he could have just done a simple license conversion, if im not wrong just a couple theoretical exams and a canadian medical license, no way did a captain have to earn money for flying lessons all over again
Thanks Joe at 67 now i was always wanting to be a pilot as a kid but was diagnosed color blind at 12yrs old so no flying for me ,but seriously when pilots like yourself show whats really involved,i feel as if i wasnt really pilot material ,i would rather have been a Aircraft Mechanic but that didnt happen but i got an apprenticeship as Diesel Mechanic and was happy i think we all find our lot in life really enjoy your channel mate Kym Adelaide
Thank you Joe , as someone who studies business management at college I have always wanted to become an airline pilot and wasn’t really interested in getting bachelors degree in business management but with this video it really convinced me to make a plan B if things go wrong
You made the right choice, From my personal experience. I joined the MPL ( multi pilot license ) cadet program at Lanmei airline in Cambodia at the year 2022, the airline during that time operates quite well, I took my chance and effort to become an airline pilot, however as time goes by, in the year 2024. the airline fleet is reduced to zero, leaving all cadets behind, lost of time and money, some lost more money than others because they are senior cadets, and even employees left due to the airline failed to pay their wages. Airline industry in my country is unstable. I unfortunately don't have a plan B during that time, now I realize that it's best to have a college degree just in case aviation is unstable, it is a must now. I don't plan on joining the airline in the future if I have the chance again. too expensive haha, I will rather get a CPL, and be a sightseeing pilot instead, renting planes gathering passenger, flying them to interesting landmarks, so they can enjoy their experience on a single engine plane, it's like a vacation job for me. I'll keep a primary job during normal days, and still be a pilot in the holidays. Goodluck on your journey to become a pilot, best wishes to you. :))
Yes, always have a generalized educational background to fall on. Business management is an excellent one. Go and be a pilot because flying will give you so much more in life.
Every (young) pilot aspirant should watch this. I am 35 years old, I have a PPL and 250 hrs ttl. Becoming a pilot was a dream of mine for almost 20 years. I applied for ab initio programs when I was young but got rejected. Meanwhile, I have a wonderful job, like living in my city, love my spare time and so on. I recently thought of maybe flying commercially but spending almost another 40K on licences (without MCC or T/R), still being a rookie with over 200 hrs, having to move maybe, possibly losing the job when the economy shrinks and so on made my decide to stick to my PPL and fly whenever I want and I am happy with that 🙂
You say the seniority start over is fair, but there has to be a middle ground. Where a senior Captain could come in and maybe start 3/4 of the way up the first officer list. Otherwise, while it looks fair; it incentivizes non-compete in the labor pool. So everyone actually makes less than they could if they knew they could leave without a FULL reset of seniority. It works in the company's favor more than the pilots. Though that might be from an American standpoint where there are a lot less social safety nets and a lot fewer worker's rights.
Hi Captain Joe, thank you for this video!!!! 🙋♀There's a lot to be aware of when considering becoming a pilot in an airliner . I'm working on my PPL in western Austria at the moment. A teacher at my school, when I told him that I want to become a commercial pilot, gave me the example of you, saying that you went to the same school and was his student and now you are flying the 747..(That was what really motivated me😊) During my pilot training I often fly to southern Germany, for example to Leutkirch. As an aspiring pilot I've learnt a lot from your videos. Keep up the good work!!!!! Thank you Captain Joe🙏🙏
About the "You can't choose the plane you want to fly". I have an advice. Just be glad that you get to fly at all. The pilot job market is competitive, and to secure a spot is no easy feat. Aside from that, if you really enjoy flying then it's fun regardless the plane.
When I was a child, my mum worked as a Cabin Manager, and she took me to see the cockpit during a flight. That moment ignited my dream of becoming a pilot. Unfortunately, pursuing a career as an airline pilot wasn’t financially feasible at the time, so I decided to attend business school instead. Now, at 27, I serve as the Assistant Head of the Human Resources department for a luxury property. However, I often feel unfulfilled and lost in my current role. The thought of pursuing my dream of becoming a pilot has always been there, and it has resurfaced now that I can afford flight school. Yet, I’m apprehensive about making such a significant change. I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place. I don't know where to start
I'm 27 and started flight school this year. Some people begin their flying career as late as in their 40s-50s, but like Captain Joe said, seniority is everything. If it's your life's calling, do your research and do it!
We were leaving Honolulu 10 years ago and our destination was PDX. This was before my wife and I retired. We were anxious to take off and head for the Mainland. It is a 6 hour flight and even with the 2 or 3 hour time difference by the time we land, get our luggage and get over to get our car out of parking, then the 1 hour plus drive home we are lucky to get to bed by 1 AM. And we had to be at work at 8 AM. So we finally are rolling down the runway. Just as we "rotate" and the nose lifts up, we immediately feel hard braking, the nose comes down the ailerons (or speed brakes) flip up and we hear the air rushing over them. We slow down dramatically. The Captain comes on to describe that this was a very Smart Airplane, (an Airbus A-330) and brand new. And what happened was that we experienced maximum braking. The flight was aborted by the plane's computer due to hot brakes? Which sure seemed odd. Never have been able to figure that one out. The mechanics were supposed to put fans on the brakes to cool them down in a few minutes, which turned into a few hours. Why would the brakes be hot? were they partially engaged while taxiing from the terminal to the runway? In Honolulu the Terminal is separate from the runway areas. The takeoff and landing runways are on a man-made island the planes need to taxi to. Anyone have any answers?
Your advice about having a Plan B is SOLID! I think it's wise to have skills that allow you to work outside the cockpit. Here in the US, it's easy for an aspiring pilot to study something like accounting, finance, engineering, etc. Why? Because major airlines prefer degreed candidates. It's not quite the ironclad requirement it was years ago, but helps to have one. That being the case, an aspiring pilot might as well get a degree in something else, like accounting. That way, not only are his hiring chances improved; he has a backup in case he can't fly anymore for whatever reason.
Hi Joe - thank you for the video. I would love to see you do a video addressing age when embarking on training. I am in my mid forties, midway through my ATPLs and due to start my CPL, CB-IR and MEP next year. Its a dream job for me, but it was financially unobtainable for a long time. I am motivated for achieving that dream but anxious about age. I have had several people say you are not to old but its hard to shake. Appreciate its always going to be a factor, but would love for you to do a video on this subject. Thank you :)
💯 Excellent job. This is the reality we all must accept. The cost of being a pilot isn't just measured by the money paid for the training but by the opportunity cost; of money lost as you work towards qualifying for that airline job. There is also time away from home, and being forced to work in locations where you're not close to family and friends.
One thing about seniority that is worth mentioning. There are airlines out there which do not use seniority in upgrading, in vacation etc. it just depends on the airline. And moving airlines it can work both ways. Some airlines have fast track command positions for experienced FOs, or direct entry captains.
This was quite an eye-opener, thanks Joe! Seems to be exactly what I keep saying - being a pilot is not a job, it is a lifestyle that takes a lot of sacrifices and can't just be done "on the side" like being a salesman or something. Keep up the good work!
That's what we tried to teach our kids as well and - more importantly - be a role-model at: "Es lohnt sich IMMER, sich für etwas anzustrengen" - it's always worth working hard for something 😅! Sometimes it doesn't pay off immediately, but in my experience it fortunately does almost always pay off in the long run 😊.
Great advice hopefully this video reaches out a wide audience of future pilots. There are many exceptions to what was said on this video but that’s what they are “exceptions”. Some cargo operators will let you be based wherever you want in the world, you are just responsible to be 24hrs prior to the start of your schedule wherever this may be. Some operators offer 15 days on / 15 days off so you can be home half a month with your family and away the other half.
Thank you so much for this video! It's the kind of content I ultimately long for. Even though nothing really caught me by surprise here, it's still great to fully acknowledge all the truth about this job. I'm all in and absolutely dedicated to becoming an airline pilot. Videos like this one make it much easier to accommodate to anything one's going to face in the future! Cheers!
William Compton, the last CEO of TWA, was promoted up from the pilot ranks, and I heard him talk about several times that he had to step away from the CEO desk and catch training and flights to stay current every year.
It's just strange to me that employees are always expected to be loyal. But when a crisis arises, the employees are the first to be dismissed. To give you an example, if you had invested in keeping your employees even during the crisis - I'm using coronavirus as an example - you wouldn't have a recruitment problem now. But loyalty is always one-sided.
Quite eye opening to those of us not pilots or in the Airline industry... Most if not all advice is very helpful to all jobs and life in general..Very good stuff
Hey! Always when you have this type of video, you tell that pilot is hard in many ways, and dismotivate people. Maybe you could make video about that how to prevent everything and be good in these things or how to better and prevent happen bad things what can
Captain Joe is finally back! My wings were about to give out, but you're here to keep us soaring! ✈️ We need more videos like this to help us fly higher! 🛫🚀
These are many important aspects to aviation, career and business considerations. I hold a business degree and respect your straight-forward acknowledgement of corporate management, industry and finance issues.
I am actually doing a programmatic advertising, but listened to the list as if I am to become a pilot! Thanks for your work and many safe flights ahead!
With the amount of money you spend on flight school and training, you're much better off going to medical school and becoming a doctor. It's a better profession, and doctors are always in demand.
Medical school is double the price of flight school and triple the amount of training and studying just for the pilot to make double in salary in his first year compared to a doctor his first year.
In the U.S., pretty much all airlines have 401k contributions. On average, it’s around 15-16%. Every year, the airline calculates that percentage of your pay and puts it into a pension plan for you. It’s not taken out of your pay.
Become a Pilot is so hard. If you dont get accepted at a airline as a student you can basically forget it and there are not many open slots at all. If you wanna do it yourself prepare to spend 120k and not have any job safety at all until you get accepted somewhere. Then pray that the company does go broke or your airbase changes… i really dont inderstand how there is not a massive amount of needed pilots
Great video, too bad I already jumped into pilot school without giving it enough thought, now i know what to expect on my journey to pay off my huge amount of student loan dept.
Thank you Captain Joe for another wonderful video. I am paralysed from the shock that pilots start at the bottom junior levels all over again when they change airlines😢
Sound advice Joe. Having been there redundancy wise in 2020 from Laudamotion gmbh when a certain Irish based LCC bought us & kicked us all out from the Ops team I met you at Berlin during that time.😊
For me Airlines are going to have to be a step in my career, it will definitely be a more enjoyable step than working an engineering job to pay for my licences but for me the end goal is to be a firefighter / crop duster amoungst other things. I want to do a lot of things with aircraft and the airlines will help me save to getting a CAT 3 test pilots licence and Ag-Rated as well as Flight Instructor rated. I'll probably never be a captain and that's fine, the airlines are what is going to help me build the career I want.
I’m starting with Skyborne in January and they have an option to also do a bachelor degree in Aviation Management at the same time. I have decided to go for it just incase I lose my medical and can’t fly and to also have it on my CV to be more appealing to airlines.
in the past all pilots in Bulgaria had engineering degree. I guess it applies also to pilots from Easter Germany. I imagine having an extra degree as aero engineer or mechanic is not a bad back up plan.
Great list! I am an aviation enthusiast, but too old to become a pilot. Nevertheless, this is a fantastic list that can even be adapted and applied to other professions. Thank you!
The fact that companies stop pilots from forming Unions is infuriating to me. As a Railway worker I'm now part of a union formed against a recent change in work times that kills our work-life balance. Heck, having to decide between changing airline and losing seniority or bending to the CEO will make me miserable
I have a university degree but in the last years it has gotten more and more difficult to find a good job. The contracts are not good as well. However, I did not imagine a pilot had to face so many difficulties. 😧
How tall should you be to sit properly in the cockpit and fly the aircraft?? What's the minimum and maximum height of a pilot ?? Are there pilots in the airline who are less than 5.2 feet tall??
In order to become a pilot within the Lufthansa group you have to be between 165 cm (5 ft 5) and 198 cm (6 ft 6) of height. I don't know what the requirements are at other airlines tbh
Someone told me when I was 20 "Get a job with the largest airline in the world. Then there is good chance the airline might still be in business when you are at retirement age."
to everyone: this video is mostly particular for airline pilot careers… other pilot careers like in the Corporate, General Aviation, Military, test flying etc. have different sets of policies, nuances, and many others.
Captain Joe , as a trainee pilot myself always enjoyed watching your videos. Could you make a video about corporate jets pilots or how to get to that section please?!
I'm fairly glad you want to fly down here with us to Australia. Negatives - Hot weather bad pressure height. Positives - Very easy UTC time. Literally just +10.
lolz 😂, looks like the moment i become an airline pilot they automatically become the owner of my life lolz 😂, but thanks joe for the updates this helps to be more careful during and after the process
Are you aware of how seniority works in an airline? This guy was probably captain of a narrow body for years before moving fleet and becoming F/O. The fact you call it co-pilot shows your ignorance on the matter anyway.
@JaydenGlynn777 I am reasonably familiar with how seniority works. Joe has never flown as captain. He was co-pilot in Air Berlin. Can you explain how the term "co-pilot" shows a lack of knowledge on the subject? Check the OM A of any major airline and you'll see the term "co-pilot" widely used.
All of these seems reasonable for me, but what worries me is the flight school, i took too vacitional pilot tests, and failed both Which disencouraged me, and im starting to think of getting a proper flight school lessons before hand, but im worried im not up for it, even though i was born with the LOVE for flying, and i mean, Being 9 years old having books of aerodynamics and playing flight sim while everyone is playing one their playstation or playing football I know its an Ad that lessons you showed, but i do think it would be bad to be prepared like you said, ill give it a shot, i need some encouragement.
i love when captain joe remembers his youtube password
He's been remembering it quite often nowadays, thankfully 😅
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You guys are hilarious ;)
Самый обаятельный мужчина в моей жизни. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
The airline I work for doesn't have a union but they make up for that by providing exceptional contracts including full medical, dental, ljfe and even loss of license insurance. They keep us happy and unionless. This is the exception not the norm in the airline world. Oh and even after 23+ years at my airline and really, really good seniority, I'm still not guaranteed to get the trips I bid. Great video, excellent tips!
Where do I sign up?!
Can you please state the country of the airline at least?
@@iPlayOnSpica Based in Guatemala (GUA MGGT), subsidiary of a major express and logistics company flying B757. You start out as an ATR-42 FO regardless of previous experience, I was a jet Captain (BA11 old job) when hired, still took me around 18 years to reach Captain B757. So patience was required. As a friend says, no perfect job in this world.
Why don't pilots start their own airline and pay themselves whatever they want and get all the profits? Call it Union Airlines or Air Union or Union Airways
It always makes my day when Captain Joe uploads
so basically it’s a big scheme to incentivize loyalty while not reciprocating if the market is bad
As always and everywhere.
Correct.
Thanks Joe. Great and needed disillusionment for me.
Getting a PPL should cater and fulfill my hunger and desire for aircrafts and speed, rather than regretting not becoming a commercial pilot.
This really was very informative and a good insight into the life of a *COMMERCIAL* pilot. But yeah, it doesn't really translate well into casual or PPL-level life for most of us.
Getting a PPL is a great idea if you love aviation and aspire to fly. Becoming a commercial pilot is a different matter.
Down to earth, sensible advice as usual from Captain Joe.
I imagine being a pilot must be hard on spouses and children too; there's a whole family dynamic to it as well.
It depends. Ryanair has a 5 Days on and 4 Days off schedule for their pilots. So it‘s pretty good for them
Talk about plan B - I once ran into a gas station attendant here in Canada. He told me he came from Poland and used to be an airline captain. When he came to Canada, he was expecting to hire on with a Canadian airline, but no airline accepted his Polish credentials. So he had to work at a gas station to earn his money for flying lessons all over again. Man, I really felt for the guy...
It happened to me as well in Montreal, QC. I ended up leaving the country to continue my flying career. I decided NOT to waste my time there. I got Canadian ATP the month after I signed a contract overseas to fly 737 Max. Off course I can not judge anyone, but if you have options, better keep doing what you love. No country no matter what, will give you the retribution and joy that come from flying *in the case of pilots.
that dosent make any sense, if he was a captain with an ATPL EASA (which he must have as a captain) license he could have just done a simple license conversion, if im not wrong just a couple theoretical exams and a canadian medical license, no way did a captain have to earn money for flying lessons all over again
Thanks Joe at 67 now i was always wanting to be a pilot as a kid but was diagnosed color blind at 12yrs old so no flying for me ,but seriously when pilots like yourself show whats really involved,i feel as if i wasnt really pilot material ,i would rather have been a Aircraft Mechanic but that didnt happen but i got an apprenticeship as Diesel Mechanic and was happy i think we all find our lot in life really enjoy your channel mate
Kym
Adelaide
Thank you Joe , as someone who studies business management at college I have always wanted to become an airline pilot and wasn’t really interested in getting bachelors degree in business management but with this video it really convinced me to make a plan B if things go wrong
You made the right choice, From my personal experience. I joined the MPL ( multi pilot license ) cadet program at Lanmei airline in Cambodia at the year 2022, the airline during that time operates quite well, I took my chance and effort to become an airline pilot, however as time goes by, in the year 2024. the airline fleet is reduced to zero, leaving all cadets behind, lost of time and money, some lost more money than others because they are senior cadets, and even employees left due to the airline failed to pay their wages. Airline industry in my country is unstable. I unfortunately don't have a plan B during that time, now I realize that it's best to have a college degree just in case aviation is unstable, it is a must now. I don't plan on joining the airline in the future if I have the chance again. too expensive haha, I will rather get a CPL, and be a sightseeing pilot instead, renting planes gathering passenger, flying them to interesting landmarks, so they can enjoy their experience on a single engine plane, it's like a vacation job for me. I'll keep a primary job during normal days, and still be a pilot in the holidays. Goodluck on your journey to become a pilot, best wishes to you.
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Yes, always have a generalized educational background to fall on. Business management is an excellent one. Go and be a pilot because flying will give you so much more in life.
Every (young) pilot aspirant should watch this.
I am 35 years old, I have a PPL and 250 hrs ttl. Becoming a pilot was a dream of mine for almost 20 years. I applied for ab initio programs when I was young but got rejected.
Meanwhile, I have a wonderful job, like living in my city, love my spare time and so on. I recently thought of maybe flying commercially but spending almost another 40K on licences (without MCC or T/R), still being a rookie with over 200 hrs, having to move maybe, possibly losing the job when the economy shrinks and so on made my decide to stick to my PPL and fly whenever I want and I am happy with that 🙂
You say the seniority start over is fair, but there has to be a middle ground. Where a senior Captain could come in and maybe start 3/4 of the way up the first officer list. Otherwise, while it looks fair; it incentivizes non-compete in the labor pool. So everyone actually makes less than they could if they knew they could leave without a FULL reset of seniority. It works in the company's favor more than the pilots. Though that might be from an American standpoint where there are a lot less social safety nets and a lot fewer worker's rights.
Captain Joe nailed career advice on this video. I'm retired today, however I remember all this to be true.
Hi Captain Joe, thank you for this video!!!! 🙋♀There's a lot to be aware of when considering becoming a pilot in an airliner . I'm working on my PPL in western Austria at the moment. A teacher at my school, when I told him that I want to become a commercial pilot, gave me the example of you, saying that you went to the same school and was his student and now you are flying the 747..(That was what really motivated me😊) During my pilot training I often fly to southern Germany, for example to Leutkirch. As an aspiring pilot I've learnt a lot from your videos. Keep up the good work!!!!! Thank you Captain Joe🙏🙏
Great vid, but actually germany recognizes it as a job now since September, VC said. "Equivalent to the Bachelor degree"
Thank you for this fantastic video, you really explain like a personal mentor. Very professional.
Ι think the plan B part is the greatest about this video.
8:25 the laughter of someone who has lost seniority. IYKYK
About the "You can't choose the plane you want to fly". I have an advice.
Just be glad that you get to fly at all. The pilot job market is competitive, and to secure a spot is no easy feat. Aside from that, if you really enjoy flying then it's fun regardless the plane.
When I was a child, my mum worked as a Cabin Manager, and she took me to see the cockpit during a flight. That moment ignited my dream of becoming a pilot. Unfortunately, pursuing a career as an airline pilot wasn’t financially feasible at the time, so I decided to attend business school instead.
Now, at 27, I serve as the Assistant Head of the Human Resources department for a luxury property. However, I often feel unfulfilled and lost in my current role. The thought of pursuing my dream of becoming a pilot has always been there, and it has resurfaced now that I can afford flight school. Yet, I’m apprehensive about making such a significant change. I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place. I don't know where to start
yeah... sure....
I'm 27 and started flight school this year. Some people begin their flying career as late as in their 40s-50s, but like Captain Joe said, seniority is everything. If it's your life's calling, do your research and do it!
We were leaving Honolulu 10 years ago and our destination was PDX. This was before my wife and I retired. We were anxious to take off and head for the Mainland. It is a 6 hour flight and even with the 2 or 3 hour time difference by the time we land, get our luggage and get over to get our car out of parking, then the 1 hour plus drive home we are lucky to get to bed by 1 AM. And we had to be at work at 8 AM. So we finally are rolling down the runway. Just as we "rotate" and the nose lifts up, we immediately feel hard braking, the nose comes down the ailerons (or speed brakes) flip up and we hear the air rushing over them. We slow down dramatically. The Captain comes on to describe that this was a very Smart Airplane, (an Airbus A-330) and brand new. And what happened was that we experienced maximum braking. The flight was aborted by the plane's computer due to hot brakes? Which sure seemed odd. Never have been able to figure that one out. The mechanics were supposed to put fans on the brakes to cool them down in a few minutes, which turned into a few hours. Why would the brakes be hot? were they partially engaged while taxiing from the terminal to the runway? In Honolulu the Terminal is separate from the runway areas. The takeoff and landing runways are on a man-made island the planes need to taxi to. Anyone have any answers?
Your advice about having a Plan B is SOLID! I think it's wise to have skills that allow you to work outside the cockpit. Here in the US, it's easy for an aspiring pilot to study something like accounting, finance, engineering, etc. Why? Because major airlines prefer degreed candidates. It's not quite the ironclad requirement it was years ago, but helps to have one. That being the case, an aspiring pilot might as well get a degree in something else, like accounting. That way, not only are his hiring chances improved; he has a backup in case he can't fly anymore for whatever reason.
Hi Joe - thank you for the video. I would love to see you do a video addressing age when embarking on training. I am in my mid forties, midway through my ATPLs and due to start my CPL, CB-IR and MEP next year. Its a dream job for me, but it was financially unobtainable for a long time. I am motivated for achieving that dream but anxious about age. I have had several people say you are not to old but its hard to shake. Appreciate its always going to be a factor, but would love for you to do a video on this subject. Thank you :)
Same here, doing ATPL Theory atm. Good luck to your studies and career!
@@AmigaMuadib3D good luck to you in the studies and flying! :-)
💯 Excellent job. This is the reality we all must accept. The cost of being a pilot isn't just measured by the money paid for the training but by the opportunity cost; of money lost as you work towards qualifying for that airline job. There is also time away from home, and being forced to work in locations where you're not close to family and friends.
One thing about seniority that is worth mentioning. There are airlines out there which do not use seniority in upgrading, in vacation etc. it just depends on the airline. And moving airlines it can work both ways. Some airlines have fast track command positions for experienced FOs, or direct entry captains.
This was quite an eye-opener, thanks Joe! Seems to be exactly what I keep saying - being a pilot is not a job, it is a lifestyle that takes a lot of sacrifices and can't just be done "on the side" like being a salesman or something. Keep up the good work!
That's what we tried to teach our kids as well and - more importantly - be a role-model at: "Es lohnt sich IMMER, sich für etwas anzustrengen" - it's always worth working hard for something 😅! Sometimes it doesn't pay off immediately, but in my experience it fortunately does almost always pay off in the long run 😊.
Great advice hopefully this video reaches out a wide audience of future pilots. There are many exceptions to what was said on this video but that’s what they are “exceptions”. Some cargo operators will let you be based wherever you want in the world, you are just responsible to be 24hrs prior to the start of your schedule wherever this may be. Some operators offer 15 days on / 15 days off so you can be home half a month with your family and away the other half.
Third, finally Captain Joe is back, enjoy every video !!!!
Thank you so much for this video! It's the kind of content I ultimately long for. Even though nothing really caught me by surprise here, it's still great to fully acknowledge all the truth about this job. I'm all in and absolutely dedicated to becoming an airline pilot. Videos like this one make it much easier to accommodate to anything one's going to face in the future! Cheers!
William Compton, the last CEO of TWA, was promoted up from the pilot ranks, and I heard him talk about several times that he had to step away from the CEO desk and catch training and flights to stay current every year.
The ATPL question vidoes is great! Keep it up!
It's just strange to me that employees are always expected to be loyal. But when a crisis arises, the employees are the first to be dismissed. To give you an example, if you had invested in keeping your employees even during the crisis - I'm using coronavirus as an example - you wouldn't have a recruitment problem now. But loyalty is always one-sided.
I have already made my mind long ago applying for the klm flight academy next year wish me luck
Luck!
May luck be with you, friend!
Quite eye opening to those of us not pilots or in the Airline industry... Most if not all advice is very helpful to all jobs and life in general..Very good stuff
Hey! Always when you have this type of video, you tell that pilot is hard in many ways, and dismotivate people. Maybe you could make video about that how to prevent everything and be good in these things or how to better and prevent happen bad things what can
Captain Joe is finally back! My wings were about to give out, but you're here to keep us soaring! ✈️ We need more videos like this to help us fly higher! 🛫🚀
Gotta thank you for the long form videos. I prefer them so much.
Great video, appreciate the honesty and openness in the list
These are many important aspects to aviation, career and business considerations. I hold a business degree and respect your straight-forward acknowledgement of corporate management, industry and finance issues.
I am actually doing a programmatic advertising, but listened to the list as if I am to become a pilot! Thanks for your work and many safe flights ahead!
With the amount of money you spend on flight school and training, you're much better off going to medical school and becoming a doctor. It's a better profession, and doctors are always in demand.
Doesn’t come close to flying, pilots aren’t really there for the money in a lot of cases. It’s for the love of it
Medical school is double the price of flight school and triple the amount of training and studying just for the pilot to make double in salary in his first year compared to a doctor his first year.
This is the best video for any one aspiring to be a commercial pilot. Bravo mate. Off topic but where did you get that lamp at the right of the video?
Thanks buddy! At a local electrician. Sorry not on amazon
In the U.S., pretty much all airlines have 401k contributions. On average, it’s around 15-16%. Every year, the airline calculates that percentage of your pay and puts it into a pension plan for you. It’s not taken out of your pay.
very informative video and I really like your real world examples
Man, with all these hoops to jump through its no longer shocking to me that the world is running out of pilots
An informative sobering much needed video. Thanks cpt. Joe.
Very important video for future pilots
Become a Pilot is so hard. If you dont get accepted at a airline as a student you can basically forget it and there are not many open slots at all. If you wanna do it yourself prepare to spend 120k and not have any job safety at all until you get accepted somewhere. Then pray that the company does go broke or your airbase changes… i really dont inderstand how there is not a massive amount of needed pilots
Great video, too bad I already jumped into pilot school without giving it enough thought, now i know what to expect on my journey to pay off my huge amount of student loan dept.
I really want to be a comercial pilot and i appreciate you for giving us some advice thank you
Hello Captain Joe, I am your fan from Thailand.
Great video cpt joe.
I hope the last few videos have helped next generation of pilots.
Captain Joe, you're the best...
Thank you Captain Joe for another wonderful video. I am paralysed from the shock that pilots start at the bottom junior levels all over again when they change airlines😢
Not even watched but i know its another awsome video!
Ты самый лучший пилот из всех кого язнаю. Удачи красавчик!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Joe. Great as always 🥇
Straight talk always welcome.
Very nicely explained Captain Sir. Keep Rocking Keep flying the World. Great Day....
Great video.Very practical and informative.
It’s too late I’m already in deep 😭
Love from India 🇮🇳
Hi. Actually you can go do flight dispatch with pilot licence
Sound advice Joe.
Having been there redundancy wise in 2020 from Laudamotion gmbh when a certain Irish based LCC bought us & kicked us all out from the Ops team
I met you at Berlin during that time.😊
Aye~
For me Airlines are going to have to be a step in my career, it will definitely be a more enjoyable step than working an engineering job to pay for my licences but for me the end goal is to be a firefighter / crop duster amoungst other things. I want to do a lot of things with aircraft and the airlines will help me save to getting a CAT 3 test pilots licence and Ag-Rated as well as Flight Instructor rated. I'll probably never be a captain and that's fine, the airlines are what is going to help me build the career I want.
17:30 good comments on CRM and just basic decency that seems to be oblivious to some, both front and back.
A mate of mine who flys 74s, lost his job in Covid, he went tractor driving at harvest time
thanku so much captain ❤
lol life in the union is always based on seniority regardless of job skills
I’m starting with Skyborne in January and they have an option to also do a bachelor degree in Aviation Management at the same time. I have decided to go for it just incase I lose my medical and can’t fly and to also have it on my CV to be more appealing to airlines.
Should not be the best and most experienced Pilot be the captain ? The seniority list is not in favor for the pilots.
How do you determine who "the best most experienced pilot" is? The seniority is fair, full stop!
am so obsessed with airplanes this year!!
Good information, Joe.
18:15 Thanks for roasting the instagramers😂
My satisfaction level 🛫
The Ryanair ready to enlist captain was rad. 😂
Great video, I learned a lot.
in the past all pilots in Bulgaria had engineering degree. I guess it applies also to pilots from Easter Germany. I imagine having an extra degree as aero engineer or mechanic is not a bad back up plan.
Great list! I am an aviation enthusiast, but too old to become a pilot. Nevertheless, this is a fantastic list that can even be adapted and applied to other professions. Thank you!
The fact that companies stop pilots from forming Unions is infuriating to me. As a Railway worker I'm now part of a union formed against a recent change in work times that kills our work-life balance. Heck, having to decide between changing airline and losing seniority or bending to the CEO will make me miserable
I have a university degree but in the last years it has gotten more and more difficult to find a good job. The contracts are not good as well. However, I did not imagine a pilot had to face so many difficulties. 😧
Great information. Thanks!
How tall should you be to sit properly in the cockpit and fly the aircraft??
What's the minimum and maximum height of a pilot ??
Are there pilots in the airline who are less than 5.2 feet tall??
In order to become a pilot within the Lufthansa group you have to be between 165 cm (5 ft 5) and 198 cm (6 ft 6) of height. I don't know what the requirements are at other airlines tbh
Depends on the airline~
Someone told me when I was 20 "Get a job with the largest airline in the world. Then there is good chance the airline might still be in business when you are at retirement age."
First Officer Joe strikes again!
I happy to read that your eyesight is still good :)
to everyone:
this video is mostly particular for airline pilot careers…
other pilot careers like in the Corporate, General Aviation, Military, test flying etc. have different sets of policies, nuances, and many others.
12:15 No points for guessing it was going to cut to Michael O'Leary there 😅
🇩🇰👍 Good to see you back - clever words !
13:03 equally for maintenance
Hey I wore my captain joe shirt today and fittingly. He posted!
Captain Joe , as a trainee pilot myself always enjoyed watching your videos. Could you make a video about corporate jets pilots or how to get to that section please?!
CAPTAIN JOE I HAVE MISSED YOU BRO !!
I'm fairly glad you want to fly down here with us to Australia. Negatives - Hot weather bad pressure height. Positives - Very easy UTC time. Literally just +10.
Thanks for your honest words and the great insights! Grateful about your plan B (youtube)!!
Definitely not my plan B. I have a much better plan B
@@flywithcaptainjoe Alright, what Plan B then? :-)
lolz 😂, looks like the moment i become an airline pilot they automatically become the owner of my life lolz 😂, but thanks joe for the updates this helps to be more careful during and after the process
"Show offs are not what airlines are looking for"...says the co-pilot who calls himself captain😂
Are you aware of how seniority works in an airline? This guy was probably captain of a narrow body for years before moving fleet and becoming F/O. The fact you call it co-pilot shows your ignorance on the matter anyway.
@JaydenGlynn777 I am reasonably familiar with how seniority works. Joe has never flown as captain. He was co-pilot in Air Berlin. Can you explain how the term "co-pilot" shows a lack of knowledge on the subject? Check the OM A of any major airline and you'll see the term "co-pilot" widely used.
Great video captain Joe.
Just wondering did you prefer flying Airbus or Boeing?
It’s all about the crash pads 😊
All of these seems reasonable for me, but what worries me is the flight school, i took too vacitional pilot tests, and failed both
Which disencouraged me, and im starting to think of getting a proper flight school lessons before hand, but im worried im not up for it, even though i was born with the LOVE for flying, and i mean, Being 9 years old having books of aerodynamics and playing flight sim while everyone is playing one their playstation or playing football
I know its an Ad that lessons you showed, but i do think it would be bad to be prepared like you said, ill give it a shot, i need some encouragement.
Captain Joe, the first and most important lesson about flight school should be KEEP THE BLUE SIDE UP! lol
Currently preparing for my interview at Luxair, maybe one day we might fly together for cargolux !