@@francoisscala417 bringing a aircraft to the ground is easy. Doing it in a way you survive is a other story. I am in no ways a pilot but I know if I pouch the flight stick forwards the aircraft will get to the ground
This reminded me of an old comic strip about a light aircraft pilot on his first solo flight. Radio message from pilot.......... How did I do.? Reply from instructor.......... You did really well..... Next week we will start with your first lesson on landing a plane. 😊😊
I remember a Qantas hostess saying to the cabin words to the effect of “Welcome to Perth as Captain Hoppy bounces his way down the taxiway”. Cracked me up
G'day Scott! Yep, there are only so many Aussie kangaroo jokes you can get away with. Better than a boomerang joke, though, where after enduring a 22 hour flight you land back where you started... ;-)
"bounces down the TAXI way..." well that would be a BAD landing if you landed on the TAXI way instead of the RUN way. (apparently Harrison Ford did just that....)
Stone cold but true!!!! Never piloted an aircraft, have driven many different sized vehicles from cars to large rigid trucks, so know exactly where Joe is coming from !!!
my last flight we had crazy wind and it felt like we approached the runway on a 45 degree angle, landed on one wheel, turned straight and rolled down the runway. and it was the smoothest landing ive ever been on. it was silky smooth, could barely notice you hit the ground at all. afterwards i told the pilot he’s awesome.
@@Petra44YT What's wrong with a go-around? If the approach gets destabilized due to wind shear or gusts you'd rather the pilot continue with an unsafe landing rather than performing a go-around to retry the approach? (or divert if conditions are deemed too bad)
One flight everyone knew it was desperately stormy, similar crabbing but a really bumpy approach dispelled all thought of a smooth landing. Landed with a heavy bump, an interior ceiling panel fell down, but STILL everyone applauded, because of the sheer relief to be on the ground.
Why don’t you divorce that dumb broad? Pass her onto your homies because (no disrespect to you) your broad is nothing more than an easily expendable commodity.
Perfect video to wrap up a long work week. So Captain Joe, here are my remarks. 1) Any landing you walk away from is a good landing. 2) Former US Air Force, now commercial pilots, land softly and use the entire runway to slow down, barely touching the breaks. 3) Former US Navy pilots, now commercial pilots, land hard at the threshold, slam the breaks, use 1000 feet of a 10,000 foot runway. 4) Former US Marine pilots, now commercial pilots, same as US Navy pilots. Upon de-planing, I always thank the flight crews for the wonderful smooth flight and the smooth landing regarding how hard it was. Cant wait to get back up in the air again!
@@liesdamnlies3372 its not really belly flopping though if you ever listen to a navy or marine air man stationed as a pilot on a carrier they'll say landing on a carrier especially in bad conditions is extremely delicate and takes alot more concentration and effort
The bumpiest landing I experienced as a passenger was landing at SFO at night in the rain. The pilot definitely had to break the surface tension of the water. The Flight Attendant came on the loud speaker and said “Make no doubt, we have landed in San Francisco. Welcome!” 😁
"he's promised an absolute greaser, so i think we are going to need some scores from the sideline" LOL i just love the atc chatter you chose for the start of the video 👍😂
@@phillyphill6871 he was a captain on a320 series in airberlin when he started thi channel when air berlin filed for bankruptcy he joined cargolux as a 747 fo but didn't change the channel name as we people were used to captain joe
Thanks for the good video; I remember many years ago flying (as a passenger, I'm not a pilot) from DUR to JNB. It was a rainy night and the captain announced the following: the weather conditions ad JNB are very stormy; he will make only one attempt at landing, else we will divert - back to DUR. If he lands, he will put the plane down harder than expected to ensure positive contact with the runway. We all knew what to expect, at least. He landed and we were all home! I really appreciated his brief, yet important, announcement. I remember hearing a lot of murmuring in the cabin when he said we may have to divert, but I thought that I'd rather be safe in Durban than injured or dead in Johannesburg.
My dad was a flight attendant on a DC-10 one time where the exact opposite of this happened: the touchdown was so smooth and easy that the windows could easily have been mistaken for video screens.
I've had a "firm" landing (as a passenger). Coincidently it's my favorite. We had a huge crab angle because of the crosswind. I could almost see the end of the runway from my window (behind wings). Honestly I was impressed how well the pilots handled that. It was firm, and quite scary but very impressive and well executed.
Captain Joe great Topic. Thanks for stating for your comment “Don’t be that kind of passenger”. I’m flabbergasted at how fast the Fear implanting U.S. media is fast to comment about the Pilot/Aircraft Not being aviation professionals themselves or even asking a Pilot before spilling fear. Awesome explanation/Pilot math.
My flight instructor once told me ''If the ELT doesn't start, it's not a hard landing!'' At the flight school where I learned (PPL+CPL+NR) and worked, the airfield runway (15/33, 2100ft long) was 95% of the time with crosswind conditions, mostly westerlies winds, and with a row of hangars alongside the entire runway. The wind direction and speed could change at the very last minute! But let me tell you, flight examiners were impressed at how much PPL students were good at landing in crosswind conditions. The runway illusions are important when you transition from a narrow runway to a wide one (and vice-versa. I must admit, I got caught a few time). On the flaps settings, you learn a lot about the pitch angle on final when the CFI tells you to land with no flaps! As always, your videos are very instructive! Thanks!
Omg, this has to be the most wholesome, not toxic question and answer that I have ever see in the UA-cam comments section. Congratulations to you two mates, you gave me hope in humanity again xD
@@pablojacome5201 Thanks so much for your kind words😊! So many of these question/answer threads do degenerate into nasty, insult slinging matches, usually between "experts" of a particular topic. I've noticed that aviation videos are very prone to this. But it feels so much more satisfying to engage in pleasant conversation with people, even if you don't agree with them, and to appreciate people who can answer your questions.
I remember years ago experiencing (what seemed like) a hard landing on a Southwest Airlines flight. After the bumpy landing, the head of the flight crew came on the intercom and she announced "That hard landing wasn't the pilot's fault. It wasn't the co-pilot's fault... but rather, it was the asphalt. (S.W. Airlines has always had a sense of humor.) 😅 😂 🤣
There are only 2 youtube channels, when I get really exited, when I see that a new video is out - and that's because I know they offer 100% quality, always, and one is Captain Joe
Only once can I recall having a “hard” landing when arriving in Phoenix. I still don’t know if we stalled, crashed or were shot down just as we crossed the threshold. Joking aside you can run into all sorts of weird thermals there which I’m sure can cause all sorts of fun for the pilot flying.
What the common man does not realize is, that sometimes (depending on everything weather-related you've mentioned, among other things), a "hard" landing *is* the *_SAFER_* landing (short field, tail winds, wind shear in the form of a microburst etc.). For example, in certain situations, you don't want a "prolonged float" over the runway, just so that you can make it a "greaser". Another instance was mentioned in the video (water on the runway and hydroplaning). And there are a few more situations as well, where this applies.
As a flight instructor in small general aviation airplanes, I find it easier to control in a strong cross wind. I still approach in a crab but over the numbers I find it no problem, for instance, in a left cross wind , to straighten out with right rudder and left aileron to control the drift. I'm not worried about knocking an engine off of the wing. If the wind changes, I can do a little dance. If I think my feet point the nose and my hands stop the drift, I can usually get a smooth touch down or go around if I don't like it with immediately available power. It's a straight wing airplane. No swept wing issues.. . On the Airbus 320 are you in danger of scraping an engine with that technique? I'm sure that the passengers might feel the dance in a long fuselage more than I do sitting on the vertical, lateral and longitudinal axis.
I’m not a pilot. Probably never will be. But it’s a dream of mine since I was a kid. Your videos make me happy to learn all about something I love but cannot ever reach. Makes me feel that I’m a part of it. THANK YOU. Just wanted to say that.
This is an excellent video. As an aeronautical engineer I am familiar with the technical side, and I know just how extraordinarily variable that final flare can be! FAR 25.473 states that an aircraft must land safely when the aircraft is at its maximum take-off weight (MTOW) and the tyres contact the runway at a sink rate of 6 ft/s, and when the aircraft is at its maximum landing weight (MLW) and the tyres contact the runway at 10 ft/s, AND both these states must be considered when the main landing gear tyres contact first, followed immediately by the nose landing gear tyres, and, if reasonable, when both the main and nose tyres contact simultaneously. There are standard types of shock struts, and their design is literally formulaic. One must design for the hydraulic fluid and shock extension gas, (often nitrogen), being both completely separate and thoroughly mixed, ("foamy"). The result for a good design is that the shock struts are fully compressed when the dynamic vertical deceleration slightly exceeds 2.6g, i.e. the actual force involved is the mass of the aircraft times 3.6g. For this reason a good airline demands that any aircraft that has experienced a dynamic landing deceleration greater than 2.6g must be thoroughly inspected, just in case the entire stroke of the shock struts was used up and the airframe was then subject to a potentially damaging shock. Such a landing is extremely hard, but only the most frail passengers will suffer physically, and their seats usually take the injurious edge off such a landing. Ideally the aircraft tyres should hit the runway with a sink rate of 2 feet per second. Landing with a significantly lower sink rate is bad, because it is correlated with the aircraft having floated a long distance above the runway, burning up its braking distance, and because a very shallow touchdown can cause the wheels to shimmy, i.e. to undergo a nasty kind of vibration in which the wheels snake rapidly from side-to-side. Shimmying is really bad for landing gear, so many aircraft are fitted with anti-shimmy dampers. It is appropriate for pilots to aim to put rubber on the runway on the upper side of 2 feet/s sink, rather than try to please passengers with featherlight landings.
"If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing..." RIP, Gen Yeager. Thanks for another great video, Joe.
Cap, thanks for this channel! I love flying and I've been a lifelong flight enthusiast (on my bucket list is get a pilot's license--lol). My and friends who are afraid to fly I always direct them to your channel. Good Job!!
I’ll never forget an approach and double touchdown I had in KSAV once on a Delta flight. The turns coming in from ATL are more than usual but you could right away feel it: former navy pilot. We bounced twice and stopped at an exit earlier than usual. I used to work at GA nearby there and one of the test pilots was notorious for landing like that as well. Again, navy pilot. I guess everything looks like an aircraft carrier after you get good at landing on them.
Airbus is really good at aircraft commonality, while at the same time making cockpits on new aircraft feel modern and up to date. At first glance, the differences between an A330 cockpit and an A350 cockpit are quite big, but, in reality, the A350's cockpit is really just an update of the cockpit used on the A320, A330 and A340. All the changes are improvements over how things are done in previous Airbus models. This allows an A320 pilot to fly any Airbus aircraft with minimal training (with the exception of the A220, because it was designed by Bombardier), which is great for airlines
@@aarondynamics1311 im only 11 but I know alot about planes. I got invited to fly in a b737 flight simulater. I did engine fails and a landing ➕ takeoff. I even know how to use the b727 civa ins. I love aviation and I got to pilot a Cessna and sling 2 in real life. I got my first flight when I was 9 in a sling 2 and got to pilot it. I got my first commercial flight on a b737. I then flew on a a380 and a b777. And I even got to pilot a helicopter. The Robinson r44 to be exact. I wish to start at 15. I want to become a b737-800 pilot. Maybe I even fly the max. I also want to fly the b777 and the 787. If there is a gap I would also want to fly a a320 or a a220. After my commercial pilot career I wanna become a chopper pilot. I'm gonna start a youtube channel once I get a gaming pc so that I can run xplane 11
Just way out of this world for me particularly with the way Captain Joe breaks into pieces lots and lots of technical information about aviation and it operation for all his countless followers to understand.👊💪👍👍👍.Well done......man
Great video Captain Joe ! There is another factor that can lead to a firm landing : the runway width. A standard runway width is about 45 meters and so the pilots eyes are used the image of this kind of runway. But some airports have 60 meters wide runways, which gives the pilots an impression of being low and they would start an early flare. This could lead to a firm landing for the same reason as for a runway with a downslope. On the opposite, some smaller airports have 30 meters wide runways ( minimum allowed width for the A320). There, the pilots have an impression of being high over the threshold and might start the flare too late...
The first time I landed at Cork airport in Ireland, I thought the landing was pretty hard. The next time I landed there, it was hard again, so I thought it must be something with the runway at that airport. I didn't blame the pilots, though! Just thought that's how it is...
If you think so, they were not perfect. Perfect Ryanair signature landings reallign your spine and make you moan. Ryanair doesn't land. It falls from the sky.
Another excellent video C.J. THANK YOU ! EVERY landing resulting in all the passengers and crew disembarking safe and sound at the correct gate means the flight crew are AWESOME !!
I've definitely been in a bumpy landing in a 757, dont know if it was hard, but I'd say that, based on your explanation, remaining on the plane to travel to another airport should suggest it wasn't. It was incredibly dense fog at Cardiff so might have been autoland. I could see only flashes from the lights at the end of the Wing, not the wing itself beyond the engine. The impression I got as a passenger was that whoever, or whatever, was flying the aircraft, was unsure exactly where the ground was so put it down a bit heavy. I felt the tires touch, then a big thump when the weight was put down. I'm not one to blame the co-pilot. You don't know whose flying the plane, and while there might be a training disparity between the captain and FO in that aircraft, the FO is qualified to be there. Additionally, if there is pilot error the captain is not infallible, which is one of the main reasons why CRM was introduced, to break that rigid hierarchy. The co-pilot is a qualified pilot, not a student driver and I think it would be profoundly unfair to dismiss them as such.
I was on a 737 from BNA to Denver and then on to SFO, the pilot circled at Denver due to setting up for a landing due to a cross wind. I thought the wing tip was going to hit the runway! He did an excellent job.! Southwest Airlines has some great Pilots.
@ *He tricked everyone into talking about RyanAir.* He says dont mention RyanAir. And ofcourse everyone starts talking about RyanAir. Reverse Psychology at it's finest.
12:41 KPDX is pretty well known for this - The best "hard" landing I've had there was around Thanksgiving 2019. After we cleared the runway and the Captain came on with the typical weather, etc. announcements, he led off with "No, ladies and gentlemen, we were not *actually* shot down - that was just a famous Portland gust that stuck us to the ground like a formula one car. Weather in Portland at the moment is a sunny 47 degrees..."
Ryanair comments? Some of my nicest landings have been with Ryanair. My favourite Ryanair moment though, was an announcement the captain ended with "... it's quite windy here at Frankfurt today so the takeoff should be... interesting." *click* There were a few white knuckles on that plane. He wasn't wrong though. I found it interesting.
Another great video! But I'd be delighted if you could make another one that specializes in just the no. 1 reason for hard landings: weather and aerodynamics. That was what I expected when I first saw the title of the video: a basic understanding of the aerodynamics during landing and how they are affected by enviromental factors. What do flaps do and how should they be adjusted to ensure a soft landing? What's happening (physically) when a plane suddenly gets jammed into the ground? Why is a go-around the safest option? How do winds work when being close to the ground? Why is a plane so unstable against gusts during landing? Since I'm not a pilot, but fascinated by the great explanations that you deliver, these are the questions that cross my mind. Maybe you can take it as inspiration for one of your next videos. All the best, Captain! Stay healthy!
People who think fatigue is a lame excuse should not be allowed to drive.. Fatigue is dangerous, and there really should be rules in place preventing anyone operating a vehicle when they're too tired to do so....
@@aerofiles5044 no it's not. It's sooooooooooooooo long. It's wing root is too small. It's nose is so short. The fuselage is so long. The wings are so short and stubby. The nose's shape is APPALLING, like it's HORRIBLE.
@@Shadowfax-1980 ok no it's not an a321 FOR SURE. Look man, the A321 has 1 axle on the each main landing gear, not 2. The emergency exits are different too. the A321 has 8 exits; the 757 has 10 (just count). The nose shape is completely different. I mean sure i can see how you could get confused, but still, it's totally different. The A321 is also no where near as long. Edit: Sorry you just triggered me lol.
Fun fact: I was never taught how to parallel park when I went to truck driving school. I had to figure it out on my own....in Queens, New York of all places. Surprisingly, I only needed to pull up one time, though I did get out to look a few times just to make sure I wasn't in danger of hitting anything.
Truck driver with 17 years experience here. Fatigue is a real thing, and there are times I can’t back up (tight spots, other trucks parked crooked, etc.). I’ve performed plenty of go-arounds.
i was flying in a blizzard last week and the plane almost flipped over on the landing because of the winds. kudos to the pilot, he didnt even look phased when we were disembarking
@@dianamaioru497 first of all youve clearly been lucky because all of the flights ive been on almost everytime would be hard and second its a meme like even if they butter everything, they r still a meme
I went from a FLAT, hard landing one night to a thoughtfully fixed and smooth landing on 2 different nights with a month break between them from flying, both with my same instructor, so I had thing to prove the 2nd time. Night landings are no joke, gotta stay sharp!
I was returning to college in Erie PA after Christmas in 1979. When landing you could look out the window & see straight down the runway. A man across from me said they usually landed sideways because of the extreme wind gusts and icing conditions. After the rear wheels landed you could feel the plane sliding & they cut back on power, dropped the nose gear and landed. You might think otherwise but it was the smoothest landing ever.
I once experienced the scariest hard landing in Miami FL. It was definitely due to weather as we were making our decent we hit an air pocket (?) and the plane suddenly just dropped like falling down an elevator. Then it was a bumpy ride going down, a friend on the flight who knows about flying said he could see there was a strong cross wind and we were coming toward the runway at an angle. We came down hard, bam, bam, bam up down and bam again. After that I made sure to get a prescription of anti-anxiety medication to take when flying because it was my worst nightmare. My friend who flies all the time said it was definitely the hardest landing he had ever experienced. The positive was after the flight I enjoy flying because of the meds I now always take!
"Every takeoff is optional. Every landing is mandatory."
Thanks for the video, Joe!
Exactly, takeoff is uncertain but once done landing is inevitable.
@@francoisscala417 bringing a aircraft to the ground is easy. Doing it in a way you survive is a other story.
I am in no ways a pilot but I know if I pouch the flight stick forwards the aircraft will get to the ground
@@francoisscala417 "a landing is just a more positive word for a controlled crash"
Damned thing called “Gravity” has something to do with it....
This reminded me of an old comic strip about a light aircraft pilot on his first solo flight.
Radio message from pilot.......... How did I do.?
Reply from instructor.......... You did really well..... Next week we will start with your first lesson on landing a plane. 😊😊
I remember a Qantas hostess saying to the cabin words to the effect of “Welcome to Perth as Captain Hoppy bounces his way down the taxiway”. Cracked me up
G'day Scott! Yep, there are only so many Aussie kangaroo jokes you can get away with.
Better than a boomerang joke, though, where after enduring a 22 hour flight you land back where you started... ;-)
Everytime I landed there it was quite obvious we had made contact with the ground. Must be the wind.
Can't blame pilots landing hard there, they have to land upside-down!
"bounces down the TAXI way..." well that would be a BAD landing if you landed on the TAXI way instead of the RUN way. (apparently Harrison Ford did just that....)
Theres no up or down in space, so how do you know australia is upside down. Maybe we are upright and you guys are all under.
Fact: Anyone can get a plane on the ground. Pilots just make sure you survive the event.
A friend who flew F-15’s told me “taking off is optional. Landing is mandatory.”
Landings are simply controlled crashes
@@paulanderson8272 or crashes are uncontrolled landings
Any landing you walk away from is a good landing. A great landing you get to reuse the airplane.
Try once
Qantas landing brief: make it as comfortable as the situation allows
Ryanair landing brief: plane in air, don't want it to be
longer in the air, more money spent
Ryanair is the big school in aviation, this is the reason why does so many bumpy landings
12:07
@@albertocallau7959 i thought it was because they only have 737s. And 737s are meant to be landed firmly compared to other planes.
@@albertocallau7959 those landings have nothing to do with pilot skill
11:55 “I’ll be *gladly* sitting on the curb an watch you fail...”
Damn, that was cold. :)
Stone cold but true!!!! Never piloted an aircraft, have driven many different sized vehicles from cars to large rigid trucks, so know exactly where Joe is coming from !!!
Stone Cold Captain Joe
Yeah that was nice
That’s not only cold, but stupid too. You Will never put a Pilots in a plane with no prior tranning !!!! Well maybe in Ryan Air
my last flight we had crazy wind and it felt like we approached the runway on a 45 degree angle, landed on one wheel, turned straight and rolled down the runway. and it was the smoothest landing ive ever been on. it was silky smooth, could barely notice you hit the ground at all. afterwards i told the pilot he’s awesome.
When there's crazy wind, I'm not that preoccupied with whether the landing is smooth or bumpy. As long as they don't do a go-around!
@@Petra44YT What's wrong with a go-around? If the approach gets destabilized due to wind shear or gusts you'd rather the pilot continue with an unsafe landing rather than performing a go-around to retry the approach? (or divert if conditions are deemed too bad)
One flight everyone knew it was desperately stormy, similar crabbing but a really bumpy approach dispelled all thought of a smooth landing. Landed with a heavy bump, an interior ceiling panel fell down, but STILL everyone applauded, because of the sheer relief to be on the ground.
What a butter landing to experience!
Were you on the A330 it always butters no matter what
Captain Joe as a First officer: "Don't blame the first officer!"
Captain Joe as a Captain: "Don't blame the Captain!"
He’s flying cargo anyway.
That is funny one 😂
Ah
I get the joke
Captain Joe as god. "Don't blame god."
“If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing.”
I like this
Chuck Yeager?
@@TomsLife9 Idk
Ryanair be like: write that down write that down!
Ryanair pilot: I'm gonna pretend like I didn't hear that..
My wife always complains about hard landing. I've tried to explain to her it's not easy. Now I should show this video to her.
TURN HER OVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That´s a good idea, let's see if she finally can understand lol
Why don’t you divorce that dumb broad? Pass her onto your homies because (no disrespect to you) your broad is nothing more than an easily expendable commodity.
I quit my marriage after 1 year. This is my answer.
Perfect video to wrap up a long work week. So Captain Joe, here are my remarks.
1) Any landing you walk away from is a good landing.
2) Former US Air Force, now commercial pilots, land softly and use the entire runway to slow down, barely touching the breaks.
3) Former US Navy pilots, now commercial pilots, land hard at the threshold, slam the breaks, use 1000 feet of a 10,000 foot runway.
4) Former US Marine pilots, now commercial pilots, same as US Navy pilots.
Upon de-planing, I always thank the flight crews for the wonderful smooth flight and the smooth landing regarding how hard it was.
Cant wait to get back up in the air again!
The dislikes are the captains that now can be blamed too
@Qatar001 ok
😂
Navy and Marine aviators on a carrier. “You call that hard a hard landing? Hold my beer”
Is that really landing? It's more like belly-flopping in a targeted manner. Just kinda...smush into the deck.
@@liesdamnlies3372 its not really belly flopping though if you ever listen to a navy or marine air man stationed as a pilot on a carrier they'll say landing on a carrier especially in bad conditions is extremely delicate and takes alot more concentration and effort
"Flares are for pu**ies"...
@@Aeronaut1975 slam that hornet into the deck
@@candle_eatist you will end up scattering that hornet all over the deck with jet-a everywhere
The highest demands for performance at the end of a flight when one is most fatigued.
12:07 The best transition to merch sales that I have ever heard on youtube. Bravo Joe!
linus tech tips has competition
Who disliked is the landing gear shown in the video
Lol! Yeah
My brain isn’t responding
@@TGentong Your brain.exe has stopped working.
The bumpiest landing I experienced as a passenger was landing at SFO at night in the rain. The pilot definitely had to break the surface tension of the water. The Flight Attendant came on the loud speaker and said “Make no doubt, we have landed in San Francisco.
Welcome!” 😁
"he's promised an absolute greaser, so i think we are going to need some scores from the sideline" LOL i just love the atc chatter you chose for the start of the video 👍😂
0:30
I think we’re gonna need some scores from the sideline.
You can’t say “greaser”! That’s a nasty word that’s offensive to Italians! 😳😳😳😳
Butter
"You don't know if it was a hard landing."
My cervical spine sticking out of my cranium disagrees.
I like your funny words magic man
Wish I was a Captain Joe! Love your videos buddy ✌🏻
Lmao i saw you today in the comment section of mclaren now here
Are you also an Aviation Fan? The world seems really small now!
The man who gave Mat Watson the BMW M5 Competition. Makes Videos About BMWs
He’s not even a captain. He’s a first officer
@@phillyphill6871 he was a captain on a320 series in airberlin when he started thi channel when air berlin filed for bankruptcy he joined cargolux as a 747 fo but didn't change the channel name as we people were used to captain joe
Damn those sudden altitude callouts, I have landed numerous times to an airfield which goes 300, 200, 50 lol
I really like the analogy of parallel parking a 40 lb truck at night in the rain. This is a very cool detailed list.
Parallel-parking 40lb truck isn't very impressive.
A 40 Ton truck, now THAT'S another matter.
Thanks for the good video; I remember many years ago flying (as a passenger, I'm not a pilot) from DUR to JNB. It was a rainy night and the captain announced the following: the weather conditions ad JNB are very stormy; he will make only one attempt at landing, else we will divert - back to DUR. If he lands, he will put the plane down harder than expected to ensure positive contact with the runway. We all knew what to expect, at least.
He landed and we were all home! I really appreciated his brief, yet important, announcement. I remember hearing a lot of murmuring in the cabin when he said we may have to divert, but I thought that I'd rather be safe in Durban than injured or dead in Johannesburg.
I'm struggling to afford private pilot lessons, but I'll get there one day!
Keep at it! You’ve got it
My dad was a flight attendant on a DC-10 one time where the exact opposite of this happened: the touchdown was so smooth and easy that the windows could easily have been mistaken for video screens.
Hey Joe thanks to you you encouraged me for flying and 2 days ago I have flown my First Solo, I am 15 years of age and I live Australia. Thank you
amazing !
La tua bravura è impressionante..riesci a.essere esauriente in tutti i tuoi video,io ascoltandoti,ho messo da parte le mie paure di volare..grazie
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I don't think u can fly a plane wher you are 15
When*
I've had a "firm" landing (as a passenger). Coincidently it's my favorite.
We had a huge crab angle because of the crosswind. I could almost see the end of the runway from my window (behind wings).
Honestly I was impressed how well the pilots handled that. It was firm, and quite scary but very impressive and well executed.
Captain Joe great Topic. Thanks for stating for your comment “Don’t be that kind of passenger”. I’m flabbergasted at how fast the Fear implanting U.S. media is fast to comment about the Pilot/Aircraft Not being aviation professionals themselves or even asking a Pilot before spilling fear. Awesome explanation/Pilot math.
My flight instructor once told me ''If the ELT doesn't start, it's not a hard landing!'' At the flight school where I learned (PPL+CPL+NR) and worked, the airfield runway (15/33, 2100ft long) was 95% of the time with crosswind conditions, mostly westerlies winds, and with a row of hangars alongside the entire runway. The wind direction and speed could change at the very last minute! But let me tell you, flight examiners were impressed at how much PPL students were good at landing in crosswind conditions. The runway illusions are important when you transition from a narrow runway to a wide one (and vice-versa. I must admit, I got caught a few time). On the flaps settings, you learn a lot about the pitch angle on final when the CFI tells you to land with no flaps!
As always, your videos are very instructive! Thanks!
A moment of silence for those who didn’t see the hydroplaning vid.
I haven't seen it, would you have a link to it by any chance?
@@valobrien9596 ua-cam.com/video/RhwDlFamB20/v-deo.html
Great vid. Joe is very good at explaining aviation things
@@totolaunione3939 Thanks for that, very interesting. He does explain these things very well indeed.
Omg, this has to be the most wholesome, not toxic question and answer that I have ever see in the UA-cam comments section. Congratulations to you two mates, you gave me hope in humanity again xD
@@pablojacome5201 Thanks so much for your kind words😊! So many of these question/answer threads do degenerate into nasty, insult slinging matches, usually between "experts" of a particular topic. I've noticed that aviation videos are very prone to this. But it feels so much more satisfying to engage in pleasant conversation with people, even if you don't agree with them, and to appreciate people who can answer your questions.
I remember years ago experiencing (what seemed like) a hard landing on a Southwest Airlines flight. After the bumpy landing, the head of the flight crew came on the intercom and she announced "That hard landing wasn't the pilot's fault. It wasn't the co-pilot's fault... but rather, it was the asphalt. (S.W. Airlines has always had a sense of humor.) 😅 😂 🤣
There are only 2 youtube channels, when I get really exited, when I see that a new video is out - and that's because I know they offer 100% quality, always, and one is Captain Joe
I wanna be a pilot when I grow up and your videos really help me
Only once can I recall having a “hard” landing when arriving in Phoenix. I still don’t know if we stalled, crashed or were shot down just as we crossed the threshold. Joking aside you can run into all sorts of weird thermals there which I’m sure can cause all sorts of fun for the pilot flying.
What the common man does not realize is, that sometimes (depending on everything weather-related you've mentioned, among other things), a "hard" landing *is* the *_SAFER_* landing (short field, tail winds, wind shear in the form of a microburst etc.). For example, in certain situations, you don't want a "prolonged float" over the runway, just so that you can make it a "greaser". Another instance was mentioned in the video (water on the runway and hydroplaning). And there are a few more situations as well, where this applies.
Phoenix is known for turbulence and hard landings because of the desert heat.
All my hard landings have been in phx! I LIKE IT!!
7:50 beautifully cross-wind landing 😍 Straightens up just before touchdown 👌#Nailedit
Hey, as long as the plane lands and there's no damage and everyone is safe, that's all that matters to me.
As a flight instructor in small general aviation airplanes, I find it easier to control in a strong cross wind. I still approach in a crab but over the numbers I find it no problem, for instance, in a left cross wind , to straighten out with right rudder and left aileron to control the drift. I'm not worried about knocking an engine off of the wing. If the wind changes, I can do a little dance. If I think my feet point the nose and my hands stop the drift, I can usually get a smooth touch down or go around if I don't like it with immediately available power. It's a straight wing airplane. No swept wing issues.. .
On the Airbus 320 are you in danger of scraping an engine with that technique? I'm sure that the passengers might feel the dance in a long fuselage more than I do sitting on the vertical, lateral and longitudinal axis.
I wish he could visit near me in the States, I’d love a chance to just fly into the same airport as Captain Joe at the same time!
I’m not a pilot. Probably never will be. But it’s a dream of mine since I was a kid.
Your videos make me happy to learn all about something I love but cannot ever reach. Makes me feel that I’m a part of it.
THANK YOU. Just wanted to say that.
Me in FS 2020 way to high diving down to loose altitude: "Why was this a hard landing?" :)
I know that all too well my friend
Less power and a forward slip, much more fun.... actually I'm not sure if you can do a forward slip in all craft
Lol I sometimes do that, go too slow and find that I can’t pull up and crash head first into asphalt at 80 knots
This is an excellent video. As an aeronautical engineer I am familiar with the technical side, and I know just how extraordinarily variable that final flare can be! FAR 25.473 states that an aircraft must land safely when the aircraft is at its maximum take-off weight (MTOW) and the tyres contact the runway at a sink rate of 6 ft/s, and when the aircraft is at its maximum landing weight (MLW) and the tyres contact the runway at 10 ft/s, AND both these states must be considered when the main landing gear tyres contact first, followed immediately by the nose landing gear tyres, and, if reasonable, when both the main and nose tyres contact simultaneously. There are standard types of shock struts, and their design is literally formulaic. One must design for the hydraulic fluid and shock extension gas, (often nitrogen), being both completely separate and thoroughly mixed, ("foamy"). The result for a good design is that the shock struts are fully compressed when the dynamic vertical deceleration slightly exceeds 2.6g, i.e. the actual force involved is the mass of the aircraft times 3.6g. For this reason a good airline demands that any aircraft that has experienced a dynamic landing deceleration greater than 2.6g must be thoroughly inspected, just in case the entire stroke of the shock struts was used up and the airframe was then subject to a potentially damaging shock. Such a landing is extremely hard, but only the most frail passengers will suffer physically, and their seats usually take the injurious edge off such a landing. Ideally the aircraft tyres should hit the runway with a sink rate of 2 feet per second. Landing with a significantly lower sink rate is bad, because it is correlated with the aircraft having floated a long distance above the runway, burning up its braking distance, and because a very shallow touchdown can cause the wheels to shimmy, i.e. to undergo a nasty kind of vibration in which the wheels snake rapidly from side-to-side. Shimmying is really bad for landing gear, so many aircraft are fitted with anti-shimmy dampers. It is appropriate for pilots to aim to put rubber on the runway on the upper side of 2 feet/s sink, rather than try to please passengers with featherlight landings.
Good stuff man
"If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing..." RIP, Gen Yeager. Thanks for another great video, Joe.
Cap, thanks for this channel! I love flying and I've been a lifelong flight enthusiast (on my bucket list is get a pilot's license--lol). My and friends who are afraid to fly I always direct them to your channel. Good Job!!
My daily dose of plane spotting, but with reasons as to why the planes sometimes go oof. Love your videos, hope I'll be back in the air soon!
As an a320 pilot, when you start naming 319 320, 321, CFM & AIE you make my day 😍
Why would anyone dislike this video ? Can't even differ between good and bad content.
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I’ll never forget an approach and double touchdown I had in KSAV once on a Delta flight. The turns coming in from ATL are more than usual but you could right away feel it: former navy pilot. We bounced twice and stopped at an exit earlier than usual. I used to work at GA nearby there and one of the test pilots was notorious for landing like that as well. Again, navy pilot. I guess everything looks like an aircraft carrier after you get good at landing on them.
1:53 thats some solid landing gear
I'm a 13 year old and I was into aviation since I was 3 and Captain Joe and 74 Gear are my two reliable aviation news/teacher's sources
Captain Joe: i can fly the a319, a320, a321, and a330 all in one day.
Me: airbus is so simple these days
Airbus is really good at aircraft commonality, while at the same time making cockpits on new aircraft feel modern and up to date. At first glance, the differences between an A330 cockpit and an A350 cockpit are quite big, but, in reality, the A350's cockpit is really just an update of the cockpit used on the A320, A330 and A340. All the changes are improvements over how things are done in previous Airbus models. This allows an A320 pilot to fly any Airbus aircraft with minimal training (with the exception of the A220, because it was designed by Bombardier), which is great for airlines
Similar ro Boeing 757 and 767 OR 767-400 and 777
@@aarondynamics1311 some pilots do have rating to fly all a320s, a330, a340 and a350
@@junrenong8576 You're right. I believe the 787 and 777X will also share a common type rating
@@aarondynamics1311 im only 11 but I know alot about planes. I got invited to fly in a b737 flight simulater. I did engine fails and a landing ➕ takeoff. I even know how to use the b727 civa ins. I love aviation and I got to pilot a Cessna and sling 2 in real life. I got my first flight when I was 9 in a sling 2 and got to pilot it. I got my first commercial flight on a b737. I then flew on a a380 and a b777.
And I even got to pilot a helicopter. The Robinson r44 to be exact. I wish to start at 15. I want to become a b737-800 pilot.
Maybe I even fly the max. I also want to fly the b777 and the 787. If there is a gap I would also want to fly a a320 or a a220. After my commercial pilot career I wanna become a chopper pilot. I'm gonna start a youtube channel once I get a gaming pc so that I can run xplane 11
Hey Joe. I started reading “Read and Do” on my flight home from San Juan this past week. I got to page 28. Can’t wait to read more.
i have a dream of being a pilot when I'm older because of you
Never give up!
Just way out of this world for me particularly with the way Captain Joe breaks into pieces lots and lots of technical information about aviation and it operation for all his countless followers to understand.👊💪👍👍👍.Well done......man
I’m loving the consistency your notifications come in at the best times 💯👍
A fellow 787
Mhm 😂
Thank you captain you made things clearer for us as a passengers!
Captain Joe has clearly never met my sister when he said anyone asleep will be awake after a hard landing
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great video Captain Joe ! There is another factor that can lead to a firm landing : the runway width. A standard runway width is about 45 meters and so the pilots eyes are used the image of this kind of runway. But some airports have 60 meters wide runways, which gives the pilots an impression of being low and they would start an early flare. This could lead to a firm landing for the same reason as for a runway with a downslope. On the opposite, some smaller airports have 30 meters wide runways ( minimum allowed width for the A320). There, the pilots have an impression of being high over the threshold and might start the flare too late...
3:47 Dayum "767" I see you. What kind of diet are ya on? Your very skinny today...
You're right, that be a 757. I didn't notice that when I watched it.
Gear tilt...
I was curious about that. Not a pilot, just a very amateur spotter.
Yup.... 23 years in the air and you’ve nailed them all! Great video
And as always, Joe's videos are amazing! Just looking at you motivates me to become a pilot.
Love your explanations, Joe. I thought auto-landings were always prohibited; now I know the facts. Thank you.
The first time I landed at Cork airport in Ireland, I thought the landing was pretty hard. The next time I landed there, it was hard again, so I thought it must be something with the runway at that airport. I didn't blame the pilots, though! Just thought that's how it is...
Tom Bomb I fly in there a lot. The turbulence coming off of the hills does make it more challenging. Much more fun going into ORK on an ATR than 320.
Captain Joe, as always sehr gut, honest and with a touch of humor. Two thumbs up.
3:46 Joe that’s a 757 not a 767.. granted a light weight 757 is essentially a 767 on a diet!
You forgot one. Just an “off” day aka a landing after a factor of any combination of what you listed. Love your videos! Viehlen Danke.
All landings I ever had with Ryanair were just perfect
Cap
If you think so, they were not perfect. Perfect Ryanair signature landings reallign your spine and make you moan. Ryanair doesn't land. It falls from the sky.
Another excellent video C.J. THANK YOU ! EVERY landing resulting in all the passengers and crew disembarking safe and sound at the correct gate means the flight crew are AWESOME !!
When he said "You can always go around" I just started to sing 🤣
Lol
I've definitely been in a bumpy landing in a 757, dont know if it was hard, but I'd say that, based on your explanation, remaining on the plane to travel to another airport should suggest it wasn't.
It was incredibly dense fog at Cardiff so might have been autoland. I could see only flashes from the lights at the end of the Wing, not the wing itself beyond the engine. The impression I got as a passenger was that whoever, or whatever, was flying the aircraft, was unsure exactly where the ground was so put it down a bit heavy. I felt the tires touch, then a big thump when the weight was put down.
I'm not one to blame the co-pilot. You don't know whose flying the plane, and while there might be a training disparity between the captain and FO in that aircraft, the FO is qualified to be there. Additionally, if there is pilot error the captain is not infallible, which is one of the main reasons why CRM was introduced, to break that rigid hierarchy.
The co-pilot is a qualified pilot, not a student driver and I think it would be profoundly unfair to dismiss them as such.
"the inexperienced FO"
Joe's self roast
that mention of a first officer being a novice on the Boeing 747 was too damn specific for sure
I was on a 737 from BNA to Denver and then on to SFO, the pilot circled at Denver due to setting up for a landing due to a cross wind. I thought the wing tip was going to hit the runway! He did an excellent job.! Southwest Airlines has some great Pilots.
Me: I bet Rya....
CJ: I dont want to hear any Ryanair comments
Me: awwwww...damn
I don't know why, but I read this in Carl Johnson's voice
@@Dr.farazalam me too, man, since you've said it)) thanks
12:04
But yet, the video examples were full of Ryanair footage :D
@ *He tricked everyone into talking about RyanAir.* He says dont mention RyanAir. And ofcourse everyone starts talking about RyanAir. Reverse Psychology at it's finest.
12:41 KPDX is pretty well known for this - The best "hard" landing I've had there was around Thanksgiving 2019. After we cleared the runway and the Captain came on with the typical weather, etc. announcements, he led off with "No, ladies and gentlemen, we were not *actually* shot down - that was just a famous Portland gust that stuck us to the ground like a formula one car. Weather in Portland at the moment is a sunny 47 degrees..."
Captain Joe: Spare me all those ryanair comments...
Me: The most common reason for a hard landing: You can read Ryanair on the winglet.
Classic
Being a Boeing AOG mechanic it brings a joyful tear to my eye every time I see these jets survive the abuse! And the trust you pilots put in us😅
Ryanair comments? Some of my nicest landings have been with Ryanair.
My favourite Ryanair moment though, was an announcement the captain ended with "... it's quite windy here at Frankfurt today so the takeoff should be... interesting." *click*
There were a few white knuckles on that plane. He wasn't wrong though. I found it interesting.
I would have no qualms or concerns flying with Ryan Air. But I love all the Ryan Air jokes.
Another great video!
But I'd be delighted if you could make another one that specializes in just the no. 1 reason for hard landings: weather and aerodynamics. That was what I expected when I first saw the title of the video: a basic understanding of the aerodynamics during landing and how they are affected by enviromental factors. What do flaps do and how should they be adjusted to ensure a soft landing? What's happening (physically) when a plane suddenly gets jammed into the ground? Why is a go-around the safest option? How do winds work when being close to the ground? Why is a plane so unstable against gusts during landing?
Since I'm not a pilot, but fascinated by the great explanations that you deliver, these are the questions that cross my mind. Maybe you can take it as inspiration for one of your next videos.
All the best, Captain! Stay healthy!
Those 9 dislikes are the first officers that were blamed for a hard landing that the captain did 😂
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@@yaquelinortega2519 you’re late it was 9 when I commented that 5 months ago!!
People who think fatigue is a lame excuse should not be allowed to drive.. Fatigue is dangerous, and there really should be rules in place preventing anyone operating a vehicle when they're too tired to do so....
3:47 that is a 757, not a 767
lol ur right. he probably made a mistake. Looks like it's a 757-300 to me. It looks horrible lol. "Flying pencil".
@@chesterwang3070 What?? 757 is beautiful!
@@aerofiles5044 no it's not. It's sooooooooooooooo long. It's wing root is too small. It's nose is so short. The fuselage is so long. The wings are so short and stubby. The nose's shape is APPALLING, like it's HORRIBLE.
@@chesterwang3070 it looks like an A321
@@Shadowfax-1980 ok no it's not an a321 FOR SURE. Look man, the A321 has 1 axle on the each main landing gear, not 2. The emergency exits are different too. the A321 has 8 exits; the 757 has 10 (just count). The nose shape is completely different. I mean sure i can see how you could get confused, but still, it's totally different. The A321 is also no where near as long.
Edit: Sorry you just triggered me lol.
Fun fact: I was never taught how to parallel park when I went to truck driving school. I had to figure it out on my own....in Queens, New York of all places. Surprisingly, I only needed to pull up one time, though I did get out to look a few times just to make sure I wasn't in danger of hitting anything.
Whenever there’s a hard landing I’m just glad I’m okay
Ok
Truck driver with 17 years experience here. Fatigue is a real thing, and there are times I can’t back up (tight spots, other trucks parked crooked, etc.). I’ve performed plenty of go-arounds.
Ryanair: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN
Pilots rock! Thank you guys for taking the stress of landing those behemoths - so all we have to worry about is how long the Uber will take.
I’d rather a firm landing than a soft landing any day.
A firm landing is a safe landing
Should we call it a positive landing rather than firm one?
Yes I like the rush
Depends on the situation lol
i was flying in a blizzard last week and the plane almost flipped over on the landing because of the winds. kudos to the pilot, he didnt even look phased when we were disembarking
When you know the printer starts printing maintenance log, thats where u know u have a hard landing LOL
Hi Captain Joe, love the videos. You mentioned not mention Ryanair, but most of the hard landings I've experienced has been with Ryanair ha!
This video was sponsored by “Ryanair”
The real cause number 1: you’re flying with Ryanair.
Is really hoped he drop a ryanair reference but instead just let the clips speak for itself
I mean we r allowed to make fun of it right i mean ryanair do too on their own tiktok
This joke doesn't even make sense. Ryanair do good landings, the only hard landing I had was with KLM.
@@dianamaioru497 first of all youve clearly been lucky because all of the flights ive been on almost everytime would be hard and second its a meme like even if they butter everything, they r still a meme
Thanks @captain Joe for a amazing video. Because of u I learned a lot. I have a question when do u do a maintenance check?
14:00 If I were to keep bumping my landings a bit it would be time to get back to my seat in economy and let the aircrew get on with it!
Very enjoyable
I really like your attitude to how people should and should not behave on the topics you touch on.
in the end, every landing from which you can walk from is a good landing.
I went from a FLAT, hard landing one night to a thoughtfully fixed and smooth landing on 2 different nights with a month break between them from flying, both with my same instructor, so I had thing to prove the 2nd time. Night landings are no joke, gotta stay sharp!
"any landing you can walk away from is a good landing"
I was returning to college in Erie PA after Christmas in 1979. When landing you could look out the window & see straight down the runway. A man across from me said they usually landed sideways because of the extreme wind gusts and icing conditions. After the rear wheels landed you could feel the plane sliding & they cut back on power, dropped the nose gear and landed. You might think otherwise but it was the smoothest landing ever.
"any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.
A great landing is one where you can use the plane again"
Great video as always. Thanks Captain Joe.
The best English speaking German 👍
He is half-british though :)
@@jur4x oh! I wasn't aware of that 😃
I once experienced the scariest hard landing in Miami FL. It was definitely due to weather as we were making our decent we hit an air pocket (?) and the plane suddenly just dropped like falling down an elevator. Then it was a bumpy ride going down, a friend on the flight who knows about flying said he could see there was a strong cross wind and we were coming toward the runway at an angle. We came down hard, bam, bam, bam up down and bam again. After that I made sure to get a prescription of anti-anxiety medication to take when flying because it was my worst nightmare. My friend who flies all the time said it was definitely the hardest landing he had ever experienced. The positive was after the flight I enjoy flying because of the meds I now always take!