Rock Musician interview-Ivan
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Soft White Underbelly interview and portrait of Ivan, a rock musician in Los Angeles.
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You know why he is so nervous?! Because He knows people are judging already without understanding. Cool, sensible Guy, with a lot of struggles.
All the best to him!
Nah that's a symptom of amphetamine abuse
@@ddavis3599 or ADHD
@@Kerplaw Sure, he might have ADD as well but he's high as a damn kite on amphetamines in this video. He's one of the higher guys I've ever seen on this channel to be honest.
I LOVE HIM TOOOOOO!!! SUPER INTELLIGENT DOES HE HAVE A FACE BOOK OR INSTAGRAM WHERE I CAN FOLLOW HIM?????????????????🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
@@ddavis3599 im pretty sure he is completely sober . 99.9%
Hey Ivan! I played music with Ivan when we were in our late teens. I have played with a lot of guitarist since those days. These guys were all really talented guys. But, till this day I have NEVER played with a musician as creative, relevant, and passionate and straight up bad fuckin ass as this guy right here. Ivan I love you brother. Hang in there. More will be revealed.
Thought I'd share that I met Ivan when he was in the hospital for his thumb and he was blasting punk rock from his room that brought life to the otherwise sterile, depressing hospital floor. Hi Ivan. Glad to see your face again and, as always, enjoyed listening to your eclectic philosophical thoughtstream. Stay safe out there
nice, all the best to you as well!
"I don't hate anybody because that's letting somebody live rent-free in your head." What a brilliant line and a great idea to live by.
That’s a pretty common line.
He literally stole that from an i spirational facebook meme.
@@JackstandJohnny thats just a common saying
That's a very popular saying that's been around for a thousand years. Have you really never heard of that before? 😂
Very old line! 😮
“Don’t take it too seriously….no one gets out alive…” Not bad for a life motto.
"...It's not a dick, and no one gets out alive"
Quoted from Jim Morrison
"Why pick a favorite when I can have them all" really stood out to me
Five to One baby, One in Five, No One Here Gets, Out Alive. Mr Mojo Risin.
Jim Morrison said that first.
I don't go out much and absolutelly love your interviews. I have a feeling like I'm grabbing a coffee with all those people, listening to their stories... Gives me so much input about the world and humanity that I'd never be able to get anywhere else...
So well said!
I would just like to say that this channel and johhnys stories have done so much for me personally, I have been a heroin addict for 2 years and I've made my first week sober. I'll never forget Johnny's story about smelling Roses flowers, all smells of life coming back. i was crying. a real one who knows. mad love to mark and Johnny. you guys have done so much for me. this channel needs to be taught in schools!
Well done on your first week sober, thats mad awesome!!
Congrats. It took me a couple of decades to get off opiates for good, but it can be done. Been off of them for almost eight years with the exception of post-spinal surgery, but I no longer had a desire to get strung out, so it was no issue to stop them once I had healed.
😉👍👏❤️🌹
Congratulations!!! I am truly happy for you, just keep your journey.
Colton, you got this!! It's not gonn be easy, just take one day at a time!! Congratulations sending love ❤ and hugs from Milwaukee Wisconsin
As someone that loves music this has to be the most interesting and eye opening interview I’ve ever seen. I admire how much Ivan lives on his own terms and with conviction.
Wanna hear some Tongue?
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What do you mean by "his own terms"?
If this is “the most interesting interview you’ve ever seen” I feel sorry for you. Ivan is a cliche wannabee never was has been who hasn’t gotten past the 10th grade mentally. Still is preoccupied with “dropping names” and wearing his sunglasses inside…lame
@@sagespalding1958most people that wear sunglasses inside want to hide their eyes. They are usually more emotional and insecure and just want a shade to hide behind.
This one kind of got me. As a former heroin addict myself, he sure summed up the "heroic" feeling you have doing all the shit you have to do to make it through your day. It's a strange life while you're in it. Love the bands and musicians he spoke of and have had the privilege of seeing most of them live. Now, I go see the concerts clean and sober. It is such a good feeling.
Good for you, it's hard getting clean and sober. But oh the wonderful things that happen!! Being sober now, going anywhere that used to be a place you'd be wasted is a totally different experience.
Keep on keeping on!
Congratulations on your sober life👍I love punk and alternative rock too👨🏻🎤🎸🎼
@@WalturdTheCat Sober life is better than I could have ever imagined. It is strange looking back and seeing how far I've come. Life is completely different.
@@joamanita4927 amen, I totally relate!!
Best things is how much our health improves, no hangovers and remembering everything you did and said the night before!! I love being sober.
@@WalturdTheCat YES! And silly me, I thought being clean and sober would be boring. Not at all! I've traveled to the UK and Central America. I'm going to Mexico City this fall for a concert and fun. I have a job I really like. I married a wonderful and fun sober partner. We have two awesome cats. I don't have to wake up worried about having done bad things I don't remember. It's quite great. And happy you living the good life too!
Please do another interview with Ivan, he really seemed to be getting comfortable with talking about himself towards the end it would be great to hear more about his life
I’ll see your additional interviews and raise you Ivan’s own UA-cam channel.
agreed. I couldn't stop listening.
I got a cousin called James Parker
Get off the drugs!!
Would Stay Here Hours To Listen Ivan He Can Teach You Many Things Of Life!🎉👍😊
As a lifelong rocker chick, I immediately judged Ivan as the typical d**chebag, poser wannabe rockstar guy that I hung out with throughout the 80s. But it turns out he is very introspective and intelligent, and an abstract thinker. I relate to him a lot. Thanks, Mark, for once again bringing the human struggle and truth out of your interviewees.
Salute to people who find their own path. Ivan thank you for showing us a piece of your life.
Wow, another wakeup moment. I was touched by this guy. Often I find the people who are the most sincere and desperately broke are the ones most willing to contribute to mankind. Blessings to this man who has little in material but is flush with grace.
Alot of these videos are wakeup moments ,intense.
So you think this guy who's given nothing of value to society is the type to give the most to society lol?
Ivan you didn't do a good job of hiding your account.
@@ClickClack_Bam you missed the point.
Gitane Demone is an amazing artist. I've been sober from heroin for years so I haven't seen Ivan in over a decade. I'm glad he's still around.
ua-cam.com/video/hknO7mOIeVU/v-deo.html - Gitane Demone x Ivan X, from the year 2000.
And she's such a kind, humble and incredible human being. Gitane is Beautiful.
@@chaoswitch1974 she truly is
Same!!!!
Do you know the names of the bands he is/was in? I looked for "Tongue" and "Thirteen Oughts" and didn't find anything. I love TSOL and Christian Death, so I am really interested in his stuff. :)
Dysfunction is so exhausting. Ivan declined to state his age “how many times have you been around your local star” then later states I’m getting old. There’s a slight illusion of grandeur from the good ol days of the rock n roll lifestyle. He’s always modulating his answers to suit his image.
@Dripping Ooze Very true, it would be very boring, We should all be be our true authentic self, He just doesn’t seem happy with his life choices you know?
@@jonjon9135 Is happiness anything but ignorance?
Musician thing is weird, esp in rock/metal...big downside is TIME, same with any job though, but music is....well you are expected to stay the same.
@@joesmith9216 nah Just look dave mustaine he turned his life around
Ivan was one of my best friends from age 15 to my late 20’s. I worshipped the ground he walked on. I had my own issues which I eventually dealt with about 20 years ago, but I never saw eye to eye with him after that. I tried, but things were too different. He stayed exactly the same throughout the years, but I changed drastically. Everything he’s saying is true, except the “logic & reason” thing is more like his version of logic & reason. He’s always been angry and frustrated that life isn’t working for him, but he’s never been willing to bend at all. Not very logical. Ironically, the times in his life where he has bent a bit were his most successful. His band Tongue did great things, but it wasn’t music he really even wanted to do. Back in the 90’s Marilyn Manson wanted him to play guitar for him, but he wouldn’t budge. He said he wanted to do his own thing. Then he ended up in Tongue *not* doing his own thing. Anyway, I wish him the best.
He passed up a gig with Marilyn Manson? Sorry but I call bs.
Yeah, I really wish it was bullshit. Anyway, this was about 1995, right before he got super famous. Ivan’s girlfriend sent a press kit to Marylin, and he was calling saying he wanted Ivan in the band. They played phone tag, and supposedly M’s manager didn’t want Ivan at all. I don’t remember the end, but he never played with him. I saw Twiggy at a 13 Knots show prior to this in about 1992. 13 Knots were a pretty popular death rock band. They actually covered Sweet Dreams before MM, and way better. I’m pretty sure Twiggy got the idea to cover it from 13 Knots, but I can’t prove it. Ivan also turned down a gig playing guitar for Sylvain Sylvain in 1991. You have to understand, Ivan was the best guitarist known in Hollywood at that time. I actually didn’t like his band Tongue. Cool people, I just didn’t care for the music. Go look up Press Darlings on here. They were amazing.
I don’t think I clarified enough in my last response. Marylin wanted Ivan in his band, but Marylin’s manager didn’t want him at all. Marylin had actually called Ivan on his phone apparently against his own managers wishes.
@@jayssonblack3179 I'm sorry I should have explained a little better myself instead of sounding like a dick head.
Neptune is a brilliant song! It’s about a person returning to the planet Neptune because that’s where they’re supposed to be. “Kiss the trident” was a lyric. You know Ivan, I assume? He can find me on instagram. I’ve been looking for him, but I don’t use facebook anymore.
Ivan acts like he doesn't care but you can tell he really does! He's a good person I wish him well!
I thought the same
I feel like I am like this but I'm more of a poser
@@Oscarutabaga ❤️
Do you honestly think you truly know that “he’s a good person” after a 50 minute interview?
@@Oscarutabaga all it takes to not be a poser is to not worry that you are one, only you yourself can say who you truly are.
I love that you are finding all these people who have very different stories to tell. Ivan is an interesting mix of the logical and creative mind.
Right? I'm loving listening to him and everything he says makes sense! He's definitely a thinker
I second that it's getting great!
He's actually very unconventionally intelligent.
I love that he takes in everything in the literal sense but projects in the most abstract way possible.
I remember Ivan from many years ago, when he was in a band with artist Liz McGrath in a band called Tongue. A great guitarist, he was beautiful to look at. And yes, he really did look like Bowie in The Thin White Duke era.
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One of my fav interviews. Very intriguing…beautiful mind….we need another interview with him. Honestly, I think he is so interesting that you could do multiple interviews with him and still never crack the surface. Bravo 🙌🏼
Does he seem like a strong man to you? I thought girls like a strong tough guy alpha personality type of guy?
"Weed makes you complacent"...so very true.He's conceptually intelligent, uses analogies to explain concepts .Definitely a deep thinker and well read.Remember to always look beyond appearances!
"Depends on the person" which is also true, i get motivated to do shit and i think clear while high.
He also said he was addicted to heroin since he was young. Call me crazy but i think injecting heroin makes you a bit more complacent than marijuana
@@jessnunez2052 fr lmao
@@jessnunez2052 lmao fr , as a weed smoker I’m offended 😂 tf
Weed defenders coming out. Don’t talk bad about their cure all.
The way these interviews are conducted is ingenious. Mark asks very few questions and rarely does he interrupt the interviewees to ask them something. This keeps them in a mindset that they unravel more and more about their lives and dig even deeper in with a flow that is revealing not only to the audience but even to themselves. I am quite impressed and sure that this material will attract more attention and even become subject of study in the academic world at some point.
Nice Antonis. Well put. Most people do not know how to really listen. It’s rare to talk to someone that is a good listener.
It's basically Freudian method, "Free Association" done in front of a camera.
Thanks captain obvious
Nothing gets by you, Sherlock.
This was a good one. I really feel for Ivan. Clearly a smart and likely talented dude whose life got waylaid by heroin. During my years on that drug, I was all talk, all ideas and dreams, and no action - pretty much exactly what Ivan describes. It takes some time sober before you get your motivation and drive back, and stop living in fear of what might happen if you actually start trying to achieve all the things H makes you comfortable just talking about. Heroin makes it very easy to simply live in the now, in a sort of cozy womb of the moment, but suddenly you realize your whole life has passed you by. I'd like to hear more from Ivan.
Your black and white moments are my favorite. It's a very emotional look at the person, a a visual pause that's a reflection of the story being told.
"any bad s*** that happens to you, that's the price of an education" .. essentially failure is the cost of learning. love his mottos and positive sayings. A high tide rises all boats 👊 All the best for the future Ivan.
One of the best interviews I’ve heard so far on this channel. He got my attention when he mentioned the bands like Christian Death, T.S.O.L, Black Flag and guitarist Django Reinhardt, great taste of music. I wish this guy the best in his journey, appreciate the sharing of wisdom and stories.
@Endless Nameless cool! Can you reiterate the last part of your comment? Staying relevant by dressing overboard by 29/40 years old?
Loved the punk references!
Django is what got me, i expected the black flag bit.
Yeah.. I was impressed w Christian Death
@Endless Nameless He is also drop dead gorgeous. I'm so glad as a lesbian I don't hanker after him.
He's in his late 40's early 50's by the things he references... I'm 49. He's extremely smart but I keep thinking "Failure to Launch"... The 80's left him but he didn't leave the 80's.
Yeah, that's what happens when a lot of people peak; they tend to stay their mentally. Too bad life goes on
You’re never too old to play music. Had he stayed straight, got a job and played on the weekends or even in a church band, he would of been straight.
I’m a struggling musician myself, I’ve had virtually no success but my crowning moment as a musician is when I’ve inspired other people to play, especially my niece and my two nephews. Because of me they play ukulele, guitar and keyboards and that my friend is a beautiful feeling, keeping music alive by passing it along to the next generation!
I appreciate this man's candour and self awareness. His willingness to address and share his own weaknesses has inspired me to critique myself more compassionately. Respect to him. He's a breath of fresh air in this morass of hustle culture and Jordan Peterson, Jocko Willink, David Goggins soundbites. They have their place but this guy is walking the walk. Great channel, thanks for uploading these videos.
This guy is walking the walk meanwhile David Goggins needs to run backward up a hill just in order not to blow his brains out
Ivan is so brilliant. I’ve watched a lot of Mark’s videos, all great but this one really stayed with me. Ivan is a philosopher and a very good one at that.
Ivan Is Fabulous I Love So Much This Interview Of Ivan Ivan Is A Masterpice Inside And Out And Is Very Talented! ❤😙
Something always strikes me different about older punks like all that anger turns into sadness as they get older and it feels very apparent
Boom, you nailed it. But they lie to themselves about it to protect themselves from the truth. People can justify and excuse anything if it costs them to confront it. And he even said as much at one point: It only hurts you, if you worry about it is basically what he said. And that's a hollow truth, because you can't afford to accept it.
Yes. I see more of dissatisfaction or uncertainty in Ivan over authenticity. He expressed more incomplete thoughts. It's great to contemplate and be a critical thinker. But....eventually it should lead one somewhere at this stage in life.
Ya man this guy missed life's boat .sorry u can talk alot in an interview but I don't think he ever prepared for life
"Death is not a burden it's a release." Well said, thank you for sharing your time
A lot of people think death is the end, but if you really think about it, death is the goal.
It's interesting and sad how many people, including myself, like this comment - as if life is suffering
One would do well to use this life to study the next, you too will stand in front of your creator and give account for how you chose to use the breath He gave you
Jesus yoke is easy, His burden light. Sin is the bondage - Satan comes to kill, steal, and destroy.
Seek Jesus today
@@joshreeves5642 Yeah I've really thought about it and I'm struggling to see death as the goal. If you really feel like that shouldn't you be getting on with it then rather than subjecting the rest of us to this inanity masquerading as something deeper.
He is in his 50s/60s. He was really hard to find online, no birthday, but the time table puts him around that age.
“Do not be complacent.”
Practically the most important lesson for all of humanity. Especially for us complacent Americans.
What a fascinating guy. Loved this interview. As someone who also lives in their head waaaay too much, I hope you interview him again. Loved hearing his many perspectives.
Eternity. I'm certain the learning never ends.
Ivan's interview is perhaps my favorite. He brings a lot of interesting points to the surface with this critical thinking. He is witty I actually laughed out loud several times. Perhaps someday he will be able to use his talent to lift him up.
Most likely won’t happen .
@@jayjaymob821 If you want to know what will happen tomorrow, take a look at yesterday
He's a genuine musician because he asked for a mic check. I thought that was adorable. 🖤
that's your idea of a musician. LOL!!! Lots of air between those ears.
Another sexually frustrated male trying to get attention from women by insulting them.
@@kaivrock I only watched the first 5 min...I said what I said lol 😆
@@kaivrock and you wonder why your friends don't return your phone calls
@@kaivrock Way to be a dick for no reason. Also I checked out some of your 'songs' and wow, I can see why you're projecting your self-hatred so hard. I'd be embarrassed to have my name attached to your 'music'. Sounds like you pushed the demo button on a keyboard and sang over it off-key.
I wasn't sure where he was gonna take that Bugs Bunny being his idol thing but when he explained it it made perfect sense and my mind was a little blown lol
I was the same, almost lost me for a second.. but he totally nailed it.
That’s so funny cause when I was 4 or 5 my mom asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up and I said bugs bunny.
Will
What a fascinating interview. It made me think about my brother and creativity. Creativity can be such a curse for some. My brilliant artist brother died at 50 from a heroin overdose. His struggle with his own creativity did him in. Ivan is a brilliant character and I wish him the best. Thank you Ivan and Mark.
I didn’t think I would watch this in full, but as soon as he mentioned Gitane Demone, I had to stay, and I’m glad I did. What an interesting character. I really hope you bump into him again.
Fantastic interview. One of the few interviewees I would like to watch again. Ivan really has thoughtful responses, which makes him excellent. Waiting for follow-up interview with him. Good job.
I love this guy's style. He has a wonderful, gentle voice too.
It looks like the highlight of his life were when the Tsol guy dedicated him a song or when he toured with Gitane Demone or even when someone said he looked like the singer of Gene loves Jezebel...for those who don't know those names/ bands, they were underground big names 40 years ago. That's opiates for you, years passed but he got stuck. One awesome thing would be make this guy play again, he would surely be fulfilled....I think he deserves it
Gene loves Jezebel, haven't heard of them since the early 80's. Made me think of bauhaus and the spear of destiny
@@jazztheglass6139 they were ok. Apparently they were very successful back then BC if you go in used records shops or fairs in Eu, you'll find tons of used copies... probably in the bargain bin.
What band was he in. I missed it
@Elizabeth Mccal love me some code blue
@Nine Shards You talking about yourself in the 3rd person? But yea, that's a hard question to answer. Obviously you gave the first thing you thought of. Thanks for the insight into your life.
Please have him back! Loved hearing his story and thoughts about so many different topics.
These interviews provide an important insight into people. These videos should be in the national archive for future generations to reference. Keep up the great work.
I am very thankful I wised up in the mid-1980's as a full-time professional heavy metal hair band musician and quit messing with drugs and eventually quit smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol; a couple of my favorite bandmates ended up completely ruining their lives with drug addictions.
Steve Printy: Yup, I don't think any addict, looking back at their life from their death bed has said..."man, I'm sure glad I got into (place any addictive substance of choice here) when I did, it really enriched my life!"
I'm still an morphine addict (20 years) and have smoked and drank for almost 50 of the 68 years of my life. I have had a good life though, good family and retired from the federal Gov. after 28 years. Been working diligently on getting clean the past 3 years, I think I'll make it before I die...I hope! Never settle for less than what you know, can make you/life better!
Steve, you are a smart man and you have done well in your life, congrats!!
@@k1j2f30 KRATOM. Look into it. You can do it!
@@dcshortwave Thanks man, I will!
@@k1j2f30 Morphine is a lifesaver for me as I suffer from chronic pain so addict no reliant yes. Always remember, one man's nightmare is another's dream.
Why don't you become muslim also ? And Yoga teacher FFS... Just like the guy in the video you subscribe to some weird american juvenile idea about rock. Like Tim dillon would have said :"These aren't rock stars - these are a couple of heroin addicts busking in Austin". But i bet it's comforting for squares who gave up on their dreams to watch these kind of videos of some stupid guy.
Man, I had a guy very much like him that used to work for me. Came from SoCal. Was a "pro skater" in the early 80s, has played flying V, heavy metal guitar for countless bands. He's entertaining to say the least and had some wild stories, but can't kick the substances at almost 60, even though hes been told that he's going to die very soon if he doesnt (liver is mush). I gave him a job but, I just couldn't rely on him. I still check in and I wish him luck, but these guys never want the glory days to end.
Thank you for giving him a chance and loving him ❤
I’m sure he appreciated you giving him a job and listening to his stories. Hopefully he’ll realize he can create the glory days in the present instead the past and kicked the bad habits.
Yeah, hard to imagine him ever being clean, the way things have been going. He's smart, and charming, and probably talented, but I would guess his life outside of this conversation is mayhem and steady chaos.
What bands? Malice, Bitch, Lizzy Borden?
@@hmpz36911 I know he'd talk about a couple of those, but I don't remember who he said he specifically played for. He was pretty damn proud of being friends with the guys from Tesla, but he himself "played harder" (in his words).
I've watched a bunch of these swu and it's always a different experience. I'm almost 40 and wish this would have been shown in school to everyone over 5th grade. It's great to see all the heroes but, you need to see the other side of the coin. Ivan's last gee words said it best about living and dying for so long.. fn deep
I agree!! I'm 58 but I wish I would've seen something like Mark's channel early in life.
Should be shown to high school juniors and seniors
I would love him in high school
It’s neat to watch him open up & relax as interview goes on. Ivan is TRUE PUNK. Cool as hell.
A punk rock philosopher…he made some very wise statements in this interview. I really enjoyed this interview.
Punk rock “philosophers” are a dime a dozen in the L.A. scene. And have been since the seventies.
This interview with Ivan is really compelling. I appreciate his candor and willingness to share his story with SWU. That's why I love this channel. Clearly Ivan is a deep thinker. I wonder how he would respond to the concept of "paralysis by analysis?" It would appear Ivan's biggest challenge is overthinking. He obviously is very smart.
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@@SoftWhiteUnderbelly what test is this referring too, seems spot on with Ivan.
@@SoftWhiteUnderbelly spot on. 👌
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Very interesting!
Haha! Yes that sounds like Ivan!
@@SoftWhiteUnderbelly Haha, you leave me wondering if you shared this observation and the E dogma with Ivan. I think he would enjoy it if he hasn't previously been exposed to the system. You surprised me with sharing it, and so nonchalantly.
I can’t imagine how many of these guys are crawling around LA still. So many relics of 80s rock bands that could have made it but ended up… this. It’s chilling, really. So much talent mixed with just a little bit of the wrong stuff.
A little bit of the wrong stuff?
so what man? no need to say it like that, this guy's insights wouldn't have been the same and you never would have heard them had he "made it". it's pretty cool to see if anything, yeah he's had a hard life but he's still kicking. what more can you really ask for?
Wrong stuff meaning what? They all did drugs, not everyone can fit thru a small hole meaning only so many can make it thru the funnel
Maybe he didn't "make it" by your concept of that term because he was actually meant for greater things and has more purpose to serve in life. If he would have become "famous" he definitely would have fallen deeper into drugs, and maybe died at a young age. That is the typical life style for many famous musicians. That life is one big party that most people want but are not prepared for. I see it has he was meant to live longer and for greater purpose. You got this Ivan! Just keep keeping on!
“So much talent”?
That’s debatable.
I played in bands with guys like him in SF in the early 80s. Hyper creative and marched to their own beat. This was an amazing insight into how their lives probably turned out. Good for him for staying true to himself. Great interview!
At what point do people like him and those you met in SF realize their music career isn't going to grow enough to provide a stable living? Do they end up like him? Or do they find a more reliable way to make money? It's sad that in the richest country in the world it still comes down to such a choice.
@@smellysock4260 How is it sad to have chosen something? In the freest country you can choose to be poor, and be poor. Think a lot, and do not much. There is a sort of ethic in punk rock where you do things that are counterproductive, and justify by your deep principles and individuality. I think he mostly just never grew up because he was doing hard drugs at a young age. I think he lies to himself to protect himself from the truth.
But that's just me, and he's just him.
@@smellysock4260 Some people don't want a normal, regular job and life. For some people their passion is their life, and they'll happily chase it and continue doing it, even if it never brings them money or a stable career/life. Everyones path is different.
Hyper what? LOLOL
@@smellysock4260 I recently looked up a girl that was in one of the bands I was in. She is now in her 50s...a string of arrests for various things and a full blown courtroom legal eviction from a flophouse in the Tenderloin. I am kind of glad I realized I did not have much talent at an early age and pursued other things. I still do a weekly radio show here in Austin for the last 26 years so I have not given up on music entirely.
If you think about it, this is the biggest interview of his career
Bruh
Ivan has such a beautiful heart.
I wish him all the best.
These interviews are fascinating. As a visual artist, I've always considered portraiture more than mere visual representation; a great portrait is 'psychological' as well as visual.
Well said✌️
I am fascinated by these videos also 🇦🇺🐨🦘🌈
Brilliant way to put it!!
“I’m not emotionally attached to my thumb”~ Ivan
The best line hands down.
I’m gonna try and use this in my conversation somehow someway 🤪
Watched the entire interview and was glued to every word and movement. Good job both ways.
glued is the word. way more than any other interview. frequent updates would be great.
I think he is a beautiful honest soul. Androgynous and interesting. They deserve to be seen and heard. I appreciate the character and strength. Thank you Mark for creating the space.
The former acid dealer who loves Umphrey's McGee, Saturn, and now Ivan are the 3 guests on SWU whom i find myself relating to the most. At 38, i'm a bit younger than he is, so his comedy is a bit dated to me, but i still relate with that overall Generation X mentality that was needed to get through those times pre-internet, pre cell-phone. A lotttttt of Generation X didn't make it out alive, like he said.
To some people, having someone in T.S.O.L. dedicating a song to another dude may sound like one big, "so what?!". You don't know Ivan or what he's endured to survive as long as he has. There's a reason you don't see many legit punk rockers that have reached his age. It's a very difficult life. This confirms my suspicions that Ivan is much more resilient and stronger than he lets on.
"Silent Scream" and the Dance With Me album are more than just music to guys like Ivan. For them, it's a lifestyle that you don't just dress up and then dress down like a costume.
i very much respect that Dez Cadena fr Black Flag was down to sing on a record Ivan played on. That's something to be proud of. He made his dent in music. You may not listen to it, but some people live it and love it, and he contributed to it. Ivan may die, but until his music dies, he will live on.
I wish nothing but the best for him. good luck and much love from Kentucky.
This has easily been one of my favorite interviews yet. Thanks for sharing your insight and experience, Ivan. Long live Bugs Bunny. 🤘
"You need a mic check or anything?" Yup,he's a musician.....
Thank you Ivan for making me feel less alone in my aimless wandering
I met this dude Years ago back in 2007-2008. He was around Downtown Modesto often. I chit chatted with him a few, heard his philosophies on life.
There would be times he'd be dressed up in women's clothes like his Bugs Bunny. Other times he'd be loaded on something. Cool dude.
I seen him off when he left to L.A. on a BART Bus.
Good to see he's doing well and still is in Music.
“In music”
What is that like Bay Rea Regional Transit or something?
@@hmpz36911 yeah funny u would know
@@lastnamefirst4035 Educated guess
@@hmpz36911 or maybe u live/lived in the bay area. Home
Wow...the saying never judge a book comes to mind... On his entry I was not expecting his level of deepness, absolutely loved this interview. 👍
This man is so deep! He’s the guy you meet at a party and the conversation changes your life.
Please, this guys a mess.
I would love to see another interview with him. I’d also like to read some of his lyrics and writing.
Hardly.
ugh. I’ve played in bands with guys like this. They’re interesting for a short time, but being in a van with an Ivan and his cliches will really get on your last nerve real quick.
Yeah, maybe if Ivan was strapped to the roof of the van…
I could only take 10 minutes.
Yes! thank you 😂
I love how he’s like ‘I’m a thinker not a do-er’. 😂 classic
I know what you mean. Been there too
@@MrUltraworld as much as i relate to him, i could only take a little more than 20 the last attempt (it kept track of where it left off the last time i watched). i'm sure it'd suck to tour with me, and i'm sure it would definitely suck to tour w him too. i see no lie.
I feel like Ivan's story is fascinating but also a cautionary tale. I've known a few people like this. It's one thing to watch them for 45 minutes on a screen, but an altogether different thing to know them for decades and see their lives upended by addiction, bad health, terrible life choices and refusal to do anything that has a whiff of 'normality' to it. They are all smart, talented people but they also want to foist their deep philosophical insights onto you despite having no practical wisdom that grounds them in their day-to-day lives. It is interesting, but harder to take seriously when they get into their later years and seem perpetually stuck in the nostalgia of their glory days as beautiful rockers living out the heroin chic dream.
@klijakuarikki I'm allowed to have an opinion and share it. That's part of the point of this channel. Everything can't be "omg so amazing!"
He speaks & it’s one big cliche….
This interview was a slow burn. It got really good and I didn't want it to be over. I loved the joke about the parachute at the end!
I usually don't watch all interviews throughout but I could listen to this guy talk for hours. It's something really cool and interesting about him.
Living in Nashville we see thousands of musicians try to make it and get stuck in that old dream. Finding themselves, often, drunk and doped out, Broke and dropping names.
It's a hard dream to catch....
They forget.. Nightmares are dreams too
@@lisaburroughs7847 yep!
Ivan is an incredible guitar player literally one of the best I’ve seen.
What can I look up to hear him
What's his stage/bands name?
How do I find him performing? Please
errr...how can i look up him and his band?
Any links to his work?
I related to him talking about his grandmother .. my grandma raised me after my mom split when I was 10
She's 95 now , possibly the main reason I have any good in me is because of her
My grandmother is 85 she raised me as well. I consider her my mother she loved me no matter what..
I relate to him also, my grandma was my hero!!!✌️
Me too. We ended up being 5 generations strong. She passed away only 5 yrs ago when she was just about 96 and I was 58. I've missed her every single day since. RIP mi querida 🙏
❤️Thank God for good grandma’s !
I feel that my parents are pretty old. Older than most. So much is for them
Ivan just explained Diogenes resistance better than my professor. I’m guilty of complacent thinking, and agree you should be more critical of everything. Such a great interview.
He's no slouch. He's always been brilliant.
He's one of us who never stopped partying.
I can't say my life (since stopping partying) has been any more fulfilling than the life he's kept living.
True, perhaps not more fulfilling, but in my experience the lows of that life start to hurt more and more with time.
Well put! I like that. I keep thinking I'm missing out on things now that I've gotten sober and whatnot but deep down I know I'm really not, but still my mind will trick me into thinking that shit is cool.. crazy
He’s me when I’m 60 fuck it
Interviewer clearly made him comfortable. He started with Jacket and sunglasses and ended with no glasses and t-shirt.
I forgot where i heard this, but basically if someone is using some advanced words and mispronounces them, they learned by reading and should not be judged. He's got some really insightful comments about life. This was a good interview. Man that right leg is going a mile a minute. I catch myself doing that as well.
Exactly. 20 years ago my daughter sat at the computer with a dictionary in her lap. She learned so many new words! If she used the word around me I would gently repeat it so she knew how people would expect her to pronounce it. Raised my kids with 5 tv channels. They read a ton, and still do.
@@christinemrs44 that's great to hear!
Cocaine.. meth possibly look at how he's chewing his gum lol.
I read somewhere refrer that as being "tome deaf" (which I totally am)
Thanks for the comment, Pat, that's some good insight to have.
When he said "I'm more of a thinker than a doer, I felt that". I'm cursed in the exact same way too.
Oh I LOVED the moment Ivan took off the shades and I got to see his beautiful eyes. Windows to the soul.
"I don't hate anybody because that's letting somebody live rent free in your head" That's a good lesson. Thank you !
That neck crack scared me 😭
OMFG this was thee best, Mark! Finally--someone from GEN X - the Blank Generation, the Latchkey Kids, the Forgotten Ones....Ivan is the real deal. what a great philosopher and spokesman for OUR Generation. I could listen to him for hours. I wish I could sponsor him on my website where he could more fully share his opinions with others. I'd help him get that gear and space!!! Xian D was a great band, and Rozz (RIP) the definitive, undisputed genre creator of death rock. Simply amazing portrait, really enjoyed it!!!!
As a Gen Xer it’s sometimes hard to share and express our stories or share ourselves because we are the lost generation and it often seems like no one cares anyway. He did a good job. It’s not easy to be vulnerable.
For REAL! Class of 86 here! I'm also a Cure baby LOL
@@Julia_White_ Disintegration is a masterpiece, as is Porn*, Faith, and 17 Seconds. Do you also like The Essence?
@@sarahs5340 lol lost, please
if you re a '86, like me, you re q millienial😅@@Julia_White_
The 13 Knots demo is one of the greatest Death Rock recordings ever. Respect x 1000. ^
He is a very introspective guy. I liked his old bands Press Darlings and 13 Knots. I believe he use to do sound at The Coconut Teaser in Hollywood. My old bands Willow Wisp and Astrovamps did shows there numerous times. I wish him luck. Perhaps being too cynical has hampered his drive to create seriously. I've been creating music, releasing albums and doing shows for over 30 years. I am now 52 with a great job and still extremely busy with creating. Luckily i never let drugs or alchohol interfere with my life. I truly hope Ivan finds success and some form of sanctity.
Tony F. Corpse
(Post Mortem Superstar/Black Heroin Gallery)
What great job did you go into?
yo i know chris from doomies lmao
13 Knots is a neo nazi band?
You were intelligent and stayed clear of drugs and alcohol.
He's interesting.. smart. It's been so hard on him no gigs no travel I completely get it. Some people are born for this. I just wish we could hear him play
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Once he opened up, I wished the interview would never end!
Thanks Ivan. Don’t be embarrassed for sharing cos you would be surprised how thousands feel the same and connect, regardless of what they are doing or where they are at in life. Loved the vampire analogy. Sort that thumb out cos we need to hear your music
That leg makes me anxious, I hope he feels better, for someone that is an alcoholic and drug addict trying to get sober I have that leg shaking and is not fun at all!
Hope that anyone struggling with sobriety stay strong and know that you’re not alone 😊
Keep up the good fight!!
The leg means nothing some people just do it because they can’t sit still I do it every time I sit
Does make me extremely anxious I didn’t know if I could get past the first 5 minutes
@@user-eu4qh1rw3b Absolutely. Some people don't understand.🌹
@@jaketrat3725 👍❤️
I can tell he's at least been on stage when he asked for a sound check instinctively . I've never heard this guy but there are musicians / greats . That you'll never know exist .
You can also tell he's not a guitar player because he didn't say "Turn my amp up." lol
@@matthewtackittsr1420 Lol😂 it surprised me too when he mentioned " breaking his guitar amp " . I was gonna guess bassist or singer .
I looked him up, he is what he says, probably a little more, Ivan X
@@matthewtackittsr1420 check Gitane and Ivan X
@@gloriavalentine3849 Yeah I can tell he wasn't bragging at all . He didn't say anything to build himself up . I've been around many so called musicians who talk a big game . This guy ( Ivan ) I don't get that hit off of at all .
Rock music has been the air I breathed since the very age of 13..My brother had friends who had long hair and listened to death metal..He would bring tapes at home and I would listen to them on and off..First album was Dimmu Borgir and exploration led to Aerosmith,Lenny Kravitz and Marilyn Manson..Room full of Posters(Metal Hammer and Rocksound) Deftones,Rage Against the Machine,Nirvana..
The dream of starting off a band lingered until you realise that its an industry..guitars,drums etc..Guns and Roses,Foo fighters,Soundgarden,Pearljam.
Slash and Axl Rose..The influence bands from America had is much more than a body filled with tattoo..remained clean without drugs while listening to bands who did it..A big thank you to whether youve become a rockstar or not cos these music have been there when no one else was..
Not that he’s on the spectrum but my daughter is and thinks a lot like this. Outside the box and very literal. She has a hard time understanding why people think the way they do because the way she thinks is so different. I love listening to people who think outside the box. Most creative people out there. I bet he writes some good songs.
Yeah, when he couldn’t understand the “thumb” question I thought something might be up. But it was a great way to rethink the situation. “I wasn’t emotionally attached to my thumb.”.
This is exactly what crossed my mind, I’ve met many people (I’m not a doctor) like this and their views and and how he expresses himself sounds like it.
I'm very much like this as well, but I didn't use to be. While it doesn't bother me per se, I sometimes re-evaluate things and feel really stupid and frustrated when I realize I take the most simple comments literally and the meaning falls flat on me.
I’m autistic and a musician, and even though my life hasn’t really gone anything like Ivan’s has, listening to him explain his story was like hearing my own mind reflected back at me. You can just sense these things sometimes, the way our brains operate and the way we experience life in a world that doesn’t understand us. I don’t doubt he’s one of my kind.
Ivan! I haven't seen him in a long time. I hope he's okay, really. Such a talent. A really super cool guy.
Also mad style
What’s his band called? So I can find his music etc
@@larsonfamilyhouse He's aesthetic in his own weird way.
What bands has he been in? I'd love to look into his music.
@@rykersmimi Do a search for Gitane Demone. Ivan played with her.
I like him. sounds like he had a good career. drugs got the better of him. sad he's homeless at his age. he's got a great heart. I hope he finds some happiness.
This guy is smarter than he already thinks he is, and a lot smarter than he looks. There is something refreshing about people that understands that nothing really matters, its all an illusion, no remorse, no guilt, no comptomises. We need more interviews like this one.
Things do matter bud. He is a never married, childless hedonist, of course nothing matters for him in a long term way because he has nothing that will live on after him to shape the future with.
Never let your dreams die.
Live and breath your creativity. That’s how I live. Don’t think of age.
We are all just energy.
Keep it moving on.
Fascinating guy. I hope he finds what he’s searching for in life.
@@egads2 ??
When you see a building, you know there is an builder. When you see a painting, you know there is a painter although the builder or the painter may of died hundreds of years ago. So when you see creation, you know there is a creator, and that creator is God. In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth. To not believe in God is to believe that nothing created something, that is impossible for nothing to create something. Say if there was an explosion that created or cause everything, where did the elements come from that exploded. See it is a never ending cycle, the only truth is to affirm that God has no beginning and no end and he created all things. The creator is greater than his creation. So we can not put him on the same level as a man. All men have a beginning, but God had no beginning no end because he is not a created being.
God is one being 3 distinct persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, Each person is fully God, all co eternal and co equal. The Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Holy Spirit. They are distinct.
Jesus is the second person of the Godhead the Son of God. The Father sent the Son ( Jesus ) to be born by the power of the Holy Spirit through a virgin named Mary. He was miraculously born. He is one person with 2 natures. Fully God and fully man. Jesus submitted himself to the Father in his humanity and lived a perfect life he was obedient until death on a cross. This is the legal implications of the cross, the 10 commandments is God's moral law and Gods standard is moral perfection. Here is some of them: You shall not lie, You shall not steal, You shall not commit adultery ( Jesus said whoever looks at a woman to lust has committed adultery with her in his heart, the same goes for a woman lusting after a man, And you shall not murder ( whoever is angry with someone is a murderer at heart), You shall have no gods before me ( This is to make up a God to suit yourself ) Do not take the name of the Lord Your God in vain ( Things like saying OMG and using God's name as meaningless or replacing a four letter filth word with God's name or Jesus Christ. To violate just one commandment is to be guilty of breaking the whole law. The wages of sin is death and punishment in hell which is God's prison. The punishment is eternal because God is eternal, We broke God's law and Jesus paid our fine. If you are in court and have a stack of speeding tickets and somebody pays your fine the Judge can let you go free even though you are guilty. That is what Jesus did for us on the cross. He gave his life so that sinners maybe reconciled to God and be free of the coming Judgment. He paid our wages our fine. It is appointed once to die and after this comes the Judgment. That is why Jesus last words on the cross was IT IS FINISHED! He finished paying the debt. He was buried and rose from the grave on the 3rd day defeating death proving he was who he claimed to be. God is so good he must punish sin, we will have to pay for our own sin if we reject the only person who took God's wrath for sin. There is no other name under heaven in which we might be saved. In order to be saved from God's wrath we need to repent ( turn from sin) and trust in Jesus alone not our own goodness. We can not be good because we have already broken God's law that requires perfect obedience. Jesus kept the law for us, when we repent and trust in him. His perfect life gets credited to our account, so when God the Father looks at us he sees you as perfect and righteous. (Please consider this)
Suppose a murder rapes a woman and slits her throat but stands before the judge and says I help older women cross the street and give to the poor, a just Judge would say I am not judging based on the works you perform but judging you based on the crimes that you have committed. In the same way good works can not save us. God is rich in mercy for all who call upon him. Turn from your sin and trust in Jesus Christ alone and you will inherit the Kingdom of God and live forever
@SpamMullet Sweetie, God is more real than the air that you breathe.
@@Mint-kj9kw Amen! For me, God is more real than reality.🌹🌹🌹
@@dynastyhype AMEN!!! I am redeemed by the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ!!!
All people has a different story. Some of their wounds are deep and some wont heal what they wan't is someone who will listens to thier stories and thank you sir for listening to them.You are a good listener.🥰
I really enjoyed this interview. I liked him as person. His view on the price you pay for learning has carried me through the whole day. It also helped that he mentioned Gitane Demone.
Gitane stayed at his and his brothers apartment for a minute in about 99-2000. His brother, Adry V, played bass for her for a little bit too.
This rates in one of my top ten interviews, thanks hopefully he will return again 🫶🏻👍🏼fifi
A very interesting interview Mark. You sure know how to find some diamonds in the rough.
Ivan’s philosophy and perspective was intriguing. I certainly can relate to his life.
Hope you’re able to have a second interview.
All the best to you and Ivan. God Speed