Magnus Carlsen - Ben Finegold, 2017 PRO Chess League Finals

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  • Опубліковано 15 кві 2017
  • Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.com/author/BenF... The video you have been waiting for! World Champion Magnus Carlsen achieves the greatest feat of his chess career by beating me in a 15 minute game on the Internet!!
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  • @noahheck1678
    @noahheck1678 7 років тому +2031

    That was awesome of you to let him win and not hurt his feelings!

  • @agiantfrog
    @agiantfrog 7 років тому +1529

    Ben, in order to win chess you need to checkmate your opponent.

    • @agiantfrog
      @agiantfrog 7 років тому +87

      only when they're higher rated

    • @draganandrei5356
      @draganandrei5356 7 років тому +67

      agiantfrog or you can make him cry to resign

    • @1234macro
      @1234macro 7 років тому +97

      Or you can wait for him to fall asleep, then flip the board.

    • @msDanielp369
      @msDanielp369 5 років тому +8

      A kid from the 1 o clock revenging lol

    • @cjp21211
      @cjp21211 5 років тому +2

      Clearly the most logical line of choice is learn some good sleight of hand and quickly change the pieces

  • @johnlangenbach7161
    @johnlangenbach7161 7 років тому +926

    Magnus' computer was cheating by using a Magnus

  • @omarkhan5223
    @omarkhan5223 6 років тому +874

    Magnus doesn't make computer moves, the computer makes Magnus moves.

  • @OscarGarcia-sw2uo
    @OscarGarcia-sw2uo 7 років тому +559

    Ben showing us how he lost a game... suspicious

    • @ahmedmagdy2066
      @ahmedmagdy2066 5 років тому +17

      very suspicious

    • @Le0nnh
      @Le0nnh 5 років тому +31

      The truth hurts

    • @nicanornunez9787
      @nicanornunez9787 4 роки тому +4

      Loosing like a GM is not as good as eating like a grand master.

  • @LemonChieff
    @LemonChieff 5 років тому +57

    If Magnus Carlsen makes a move and your engine says it's a blunder ask for a refund.

  • @cryptonite8495
    @cryptonite8495 5 років тому +128

    "That's why Magnus is the world champion and I'm some guy sitting on my couch." Correct.

    • @The_Invisible_Man
      @The_Invisible_Man 3 роки тому +11

      Cryptonite well he is a GM sitting on his couch

    • @permanentlybored195
      @permanentlybored195 2 роки тому

      @@michaelwright8896 he is so not richer than magnus

    • @melzz
      @melzz 3 місяці тому

      ​@@michaelwright8896lol he isn't

  • @pawnwrestler1
    @pawnwrestler1 7 років тому +283

    since you lost so badly, i decided to make a nominal donation so that you can get some lessons :)

  • @zachariahmagallan5738
    @zachariahmagallan5738 4 роки тому +34

    " Magnus got 4 points and his teammates got 3 points... Umm so for those of you that are challenged that's 7 points."

  • @PlayzBlanston
    @PlayzBlanston 5 років тому +22

    "Magnus is Magnus and we are who we are and that's how life goes"

  • @BoBnfishy
    @BoBnfishy 7 років тому +142

    i'm not ashamed to admit when the announcers were talking about how he "blundered" and you had a "big advantage" i got pretty excited. =/

    • @szhzs6121
      @szhzs6121 6 років тому +38

      i also had a boner

    • @danielclark4127
      @danielclark4127 5 років тому +2

      if you throw it in a computer ben was ahead when he forced king to d1, not a whole pawn because of magnus's development to center but a small edge.

    • @strings1984
      @strings1984 4 роки тому +2

      I say unless you are a super gm analyzing a game a gm is playing with another gm and they didn't drop a piece, like fisher's kinght or whatever, you don't get to call it a blunder... and you have to keep it in mind that you might still be wrong when they win positionally 20 moves latter because they sacked that piece then. Why? Because chess is hard. :-)

  • @AndrewIsbell
    @AndrewIsbell 7 років тому +221

    You are my favorite chess player and I watched this live with my Norwegian friend! We got snacks and set aside time just to watch this game together. Your fans love you!

    • @carlgreen5168
      @carlgreen5168 5 років тому +2

      What exactly did you mean when you said carlson is world champion but hes not the best player in the world.??

    • @bluemoon4961
      @bluemoon4961 5 років тому +5

      +carl green being a world champion is objective, on the other hand being the best player is more of a subjective matter

  • @DrZZZee
    @DrZZZee 6 років тому +269

    Wait... So Grandmaster Finegold loses sometimes? Terrible!!!

  • @DELPHIIII
    @DELPHIIII 5 років тому +13

    Appreciate you putting this game up even though you lost. Very informative, thanks.

  • @edwardbedrosian2272
    @edwardbedrosian2272 7 років тому +8

    thanks for the vids ben. rare for someone at your level to be so entertaining and instructive

  • @arsenalfanrichi
    @arsenalfanrichi 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for the upload. Congratulations to you guys on your Pro Chess League results too. It looks like Var and Wesley carried their form into the US Championships.

  • @gaiusgracchus7759
    @gaiusgracchus7759 7 років тому

    Yay GM Ben! Thanks for uploading. Fantastic chess teacher

  • @TrotisApple
    @TrotisApple 7 років тому

    I was waiting for this one.
    Nice!

  • @SurfaceTensionNews
    @SurfaceTensionNews 7 років тому

    Thank you for uploading !

  • @rhcp1212rhcp
    @rhcp1212rhcp 7 років тому +55

    "and I don't know what your doing cuz it's prolly against the law.." damn you Finegold... damn you.

    • @styx85
      @styx85 5 років тому +10

      How does he always know?

    • @lunarprometheus6899
      @lunarprometheus6899 3 роки тому

      this is the comment i was looking for lmao

  • @MrSupernova111
    @MrSupernova111 4 роки тому

    This is a very insightful game with that Bxc6 move. I remember seeing this video a while back but I don't think I appreciated enough the subtlety behind Carlsen's moves. Thank you for posting this game!

  • @missjessgem
    @missjessgem 7 років тому +5

    I've been waiting to see this game for quite a while! Thanks, Ben!

  • @Karen_Chess
    @Karen_Chess 7 років тому +126

    Great, another video! :) xoxo

  • @kub2039
    @kub2039 4 роки тому +12

    It's amazing that this isn't actually Ben's most viewed UA-cam video. "GM Ben Finegold plays 3 minute blitz on lichess.org - #2" somehow has over a million views! And of course Finegold vs. Finegold, the match of the century, got more views too.

    • @teefaka
      @teefaka 2 роки тому

      Are you Ken West?

    • @kub2039
      @kub2039 2 роки тому

      @@teefaka nope

  • @Mikeontube
    @Mikeontube 5 років тому

    Thank you Ben for this analysis, it helps improve my chess game. You are a great player and teacher.

  • @demianschultz3749
    @demianschultz3749 2 роки тому +1

    I'm watching Ben's old videos now because him, a board and his explanations and stories without anyone else in the video was the way I liked it

  • @jacobglickman9731
    @jacobglickman9731 7 років тому +165

    The 1 dislike is Magnus

    • @sebastiandierks7919
      @sebastiandierks7919 7 років тому +44

      Nah. It's Danny!

    •  5 років тому

      alfa-psi all the squares occupied by grandmaster ben finegold’s 9 queens

  • @ashmaterial
    @ashmaterial 7 років тому +10

    Ben You have a great future, I believe in your chess skills

    • @LuisManuelLealDias
      @LuisManuelLealDias 5 років тому +1

      he might get to IM level! I believe in it.

    • @ausar3852
      @ausar3852 4 роки тому +2

      He didnt win in this match cus he didnt want the fame nor the glory he is that kind of a guy

  • @William_Webber
    @William_Webber 4 роки тому +4

    “cry like a grandmaster” huge fan of you gm finegold :) thumbs up

  • @sleepy4x
    @sleepy4x 7 років тому +6

    Suspicious camera position, good analysis. I saw that game live and at thebeginnig I liked Ben's position a lot. But it is hard to beat Magnus and suddenly he had a winnig position. I think I would'nt have survived much longer. :-)

  • @nezarammari1592
    @nezarammari1592 7 років тому +25

    Did you go to this game thinking :I want to win! .. or did you go saying : I just don't want to be embarrassed ..????
    how were you preparing psychologically for it?

    • @NL-tq1yr
      @NL-tq1yr 3 роки тому +3

      The answer is fries

  • @medicropper
    @medicropper 5 років тому +1

    You should have more subs. You’re by far the most entertaining chess player to watch.

  • @bcd7894
    @bcd7894 7 років тому +47

    You're killing it with this channel. Awesome job. Thanks for showing your game vs Magnus and giving a better explanation than Rufus and Dufus offered on the broadcast. Congratulations on the marriage and the new chess club.

  • @greendayisawesome123
    @greendayisawesome123 4 роки тому +5

    “Idk what you’re doing because it’s probably against the law” never have you been more right

  • @johntatum1951
    @johntatum1951 7 років тому +13

    He's number one already, so don't see why you had to let him win? Anyway, next time ...just go for it Ben...you got this! Congrats to the club on the great showing! Glad you came up strong at the end!

  • @ryanjavierortega8513
    @ryanjavierortega8513 7 років тому +58

    Grandmaster Finegold,
    I must inform you that I, along with, I've little doubt, many others, have great aspirations to one day be as Great a Player as you are!
    I think it's crazy not to consider yourself within the sphere of American Chess Players that are truly National Treasures!
    I've thanked you for your wonderful work as a Professor of Chess in the past, though would like to here again re-state just how important you are to a great many of us!
    Thank you,
    Ryan

  • @julianwetterhus5346
    @julianwetterhus5346 6 років тому +27

    Not the best player in the world?

  • @somesquirrel
    @somesquirrel 7 років тому +144

    Danny Rensch rekt

    • @alephnull4044
      @alephnull4044 7 років тому +42

      He got the 'Rufus AND Dufus' label. Ouch.

    • @samuelklu778
      @samuelklu778 7 років тому

      Terrible!

    • @imme8012
      @imme8012 7 років тому

      my Nemesis, we meet again. why though is it the case that i see you all over the internet?? what kind of internet ghost are you?

    • @zanderamato9942
      @zanderamato9942 7 років тому +1

      Since you click on his videos, and youtube is owned by google, google remembers what you like and shows you videos that might be relevant to you. It does, however, seem like I get a lot of videos on the side of youtube and in embedded youtube videos on other sites from specific channels that I watch. The videos that are displayed to you also depends what you are looking up, for example, chess videos. In other words, your browser may store cookies.

  • @wiiliskaako5875
    @wiiliskaako5875 5 років тому +8

    who ever plays with magnus looks like a 1200 player damn that guy is good

  • @orangenexuss4119
    @orangenexuss4119 7 років тому

    Don't give up, you'll get him!

  • @manty7734
    @manty7734 7 років тому

    And i tought i was stupid to think that moving the king wasnt blunder! Thanks for the analysis Ben!

  • @matthewcobley125
    @matthewcobley125 4 роки тому

    You are right! This will be your greatest video ever :P

  • @flamarjr2000
    @flamarjr2000 4 роки тому +1

    If it’s any consolation I thought it was a very informative game for lower rated players. Relatively easy to understand!

  • @Xrater96
    @Xrater96 3 роки тому +1

    Came here from a video of ben teaching never to resign

  • @aleksapopovic9704
    @aleksapopovic9704 3 роки тому

    Ben taking a concept of a shaky cam to raise a tension to hole another level

  • @marcioaso
    @marcioaso 6 років тому

    Cool channel, man. Take my sub!

  • @coiLz0r911
    @coiLz0r911 7 років тому +1

    Oh my god you have your own channel now. My plans for the coming days are ruined.

  • @TopRivers
    @TopRivers 4 роки тому

    As far as Gm vs Gm go you got bodied!!! Reminded me of lakers vs 76ers in 2001.

  • @-_Nuke_-
    @-_Nuke_- 6 років тому

    I'm pretty sure that Ben is the greatest person that ever lived, or the kindest!
    Go Ben!

  • @vasi0011
    @vasi0011 5 років тому +1

    Magnus was able to capitalize on the C File weakness. I couldn't even see that there WAS a weakness on the C File. Wow!!

  • @benjaminsmythe8967
    @benjaminsmythe8967 5 років тому +2

    It's like you were impersonating Rufus AND Dufus playing Morphy.

  • @santiagomorales9899
    @santiagomorales9899 7 років тому +6

    Kd1, SOLID!!!

  • @fabiosoares6474
    @fabiosoares6474 7 років тому +1

    Told you to make a vid with Magnus! Next one try not to be afraid of him and go for the win! ;)

  • @dannyhelser5824
    @dannyhelser5824 5 років тому +9

    You must've read that new book Cry Like a Grandmaster

  • @pandabearguy1
    @pandabearguy1 7 років тому +66

    tfw you're world champion and #1 ranked in all time controls and not the best chess player in the world feelsbadman

    • @TheClassicWorld
      @TheClassicWorld 6 років тому +2

      That's why they waited until Paul died until they had World Champions, if you had a World Champion that wasn't Paul, he wouldn't have been the best, as is the case with the first World Champion and, well, everybody before that. Paul was #1.

    • @HaHa-vy9ct
      @HaHa-vy9ct 5 років тому +7

      @Tokisaki Kurumi Magnus would beat Morphy 99 out of 100 times

    • @jarretberenson1214
      @jarretberenson1214 4 роки тому +6

      HAx2 That is true, but Magnus has the advantage of playing in the computer era. He gets to learn all of the lessons that chess players have taught him since Morphy, and he gets to benefit from computer analysis. Who knows how good Morphy would be today or Magnus would have been back in the 19th century.

  • @familydinner1
    @familydinner1 7 років тому +6

    I don't know who Ken West is but he got lit up at 7:38 :D :D

  • @zzzzzzJoker
    @zzzzzzJoker 5 років тому

    This will be the most watched video for me all time. I mean all time because I am playing the world champion, Magnus Carlsen. Haha I like all the commentary. I’m watching James Bond - Casino Royale. Cool you are watching the NBA playoffs and making a video against the Champ. Love this guy.

  • @eschelar
    @eschelar 5 років тому +4

    But when he was finished, did he say "RAWR"?
    Or did he just say "Class is dismissed"?

  • @watteau6646
    @watteau6646 6 років тому

    ha ha Ben is always entertaining and informative.

  • @mallow316
    @mallow316 5 років тому +16

    Ben: I don't know what you're doing cause it's probably against the law
    Me: puts weed away

  • @PashutHerenstein
    @PashutHerenstein Місяць тому

    Rematch! Rematch!

  • @soakedbearrd
    @soakedbearrd 7 років тому

    e4 (10:48) also prevents escape squares. After e4 theres a threat of mate in one (ok Ben mentions it later in the video)

  • @vimmiabrol6305
    @vimmiabrol6305 5 років тому

    At 10:40 , why not play rook d8, I mean you are still losing because after knight d4 you have to take with your bishop and after all the exchanges happen magnus will have a rook for a bishop and be a pawn up...But that's still better than getting mated right?? Or am I missing something?

  • @irainercosmic7326
    @irainercosmic7326 5 років тому

    11:10 I thought he did that so R5d6 (I don't know how to differentiate them) would be mate because the pawn controlled the only other square for the king

  • @rickbarber8870
    @rickbarber8870 4 роки тому +1

    You were easily crushed by unassailable the “greatest ever” Chess player in history, Magnus Carlsen.

  • @outputcoupler7819
    @outputcoupler7819 6 років тому

    Just curious, who do you think is the best in the world currently? Wesley So? Hikaru Nakamura? Ken West?

  • @MrJhuang999
    @MrJhuang999 4 роки тому

    Safety your King! Especially against Magnus!!!

  • @guywiththebatcostume
    @guywiththebatcostume 7 років тому +11

    Hey Ben. If Magnus isn't the best player right now, who do you think the title goes to?

    • @fixpontt
      @fixpontt 7 років тому +5

      i think there is no clear second player in the world, Magnus is definitely nr1 but i see Caru or So or Kariakin or Levon or even Kramnik as a potential second

    • @robertlocke8160
      @robertlocke8160 6 років тому +1

      Fixpont or maybe So

    • @-_Nuke_-
      @-_Nuke_- 5 років тому

      So is pretty good indeed

    • @ericbhatnagar2873
      @ericbhatnagar2873 5 років тому +12

      Ben Finegold

    • @babododo7901
      @babododo7901 5 років тому +3

      It was just a joke from him. He likes to be sarcastic.

  • @mehdimehdikhani5899
    @mehdimehdikhani5899 7 років тому +6

    were those moves really hard for a normal gm to find with out a computer? it seems to me some straight forward calculation if we ignore some general ground considerations.

    • @gianpalacio5635
      @gianpalacio5635 5 років тому +5

      That's exactly the logical reasoning you have right there. You're right, but... in such a complicated game, to make a series of "obvious" moves (which can be rated as logical rather than obvious) you need to be sure you're making the right move. I'll explain myself in a clearer way; how many times have you or any normal player made a straight forward calculation and get fucked by it?

  • @shakingbabies5ever397
    @shakingbabies5ever397 5 років тому

    Could you have played Rhe8 instead of b8?

  • @NovaAtdosk
    @NovaAtdosk 6 років тому

    8:05 you know you're losing the bishop, what about taking with the queen on f6 and responding to c5 with c8? I mean you lose the pawn on a7 but at least your center isn't totally open.

  • @tomf7478
    @tomf7478 7 років тому +33

    Great video! Like Mike Kummer says, "Never castle!". Were you flying through turbulence when you recorded this video? Very suspicious.

    • @Scy
      @Scy 6 років тому +3

      Castling just loses a tempo.

    • @AristarchusEsti
      @AristarchusEsti 5 років тому

      Then again you don’t want to lose all tempos by not castling (Getting Mated). Leaving your queen out in the open is just foolish, and in theory, castling gains 2 important moves/goals. Getting your king into safety, and getting your preferred rook into the game.

  • @apexpredator8796
    @apexpredator8796 5 років тому

    damn...Magnus...is a beast

  • @vlobster7660
    @vlobster7660 5 років тому +1

    i like this guy's videos.He doesn't do false modesty and is annoyingly quite likeable!

  • @johnmcdonough955
    @johnmcdonough955 8 місяців тому

    Don Rickles would be proud of you.

  • @eshneto
    @eshneto 6 років тому

    I can't believe he mentioned Ken West.

  • @alexrozenbom3430
    @alexrozenbom3430 6 років тому

    Ben FineGold is hilarious. I wonder
    if he is related to McCain Finegold.

  • @miamigardensvoicetv9911
    @miamigardensvoicetv9911 7 років тому

    That was really, really quick. Ben as a GM very suspicious?

  • @jamesfleming1155
    @jamesfleming1155 6 років тому +5

    Rekt.

  • @romanbobyor
    @romanbobyor 5 років тому

    Magnus the machine

  • @petercavanaugh2434
    @petercavanaugh2434 4 роки тому +2

    My name is peter, I guess I’m not giving up on chess

  • @brocksims7772
    @brocksims7772 5 років тому +3

    How did he know i was smoking pot and watching this

  • @fireballxl-5748
    @fireballxl-5748 2 роки тому +1

    Don't feel bad Ben..... You're not alone. You beating Magnus is like me beating you...ain't gonna happen.

  • @jaredlee8371
    @jaredlee8371 6 років тому

    Nice

  • @michaelgamba7674
    @michaelgamba7674 5 років тому

    such an insight! i'm actually at home doing something illegal

  • @zotovd2
    @zotovd2 2 роки тому

    Ben in the opening you should get your knights and bishops out and castle

  • @wkuiper1
    @wkuiper1 7 років тому +4

    Painful!

  • @williamcollinsworth5342
    @williamcollinsworth5342 5 років тому +1

    8:22 you should’ve played knight D7

  • @LuisManuelLealDias
    @LuisManuelLealDias 5 років тому

    so much shade at Danny ahahaha

  • @RickyJohnson81
    @RickyJohnson81 4 роки тому +1

    This was awesome analysis and shows why you’re a GM.

  • @colefay1854
    @colefay1854 5 років тому

    10:33 what’s wrong with rook D8?

  • @jonahd7615
    @jonahd7615 3 роки тому

    7:00 Had my dying

  • @VideoGrabBag
    @VideoGrabBag 7 років тому

    Why not R-D8 instead of R-B8 ? at 10:40

  • @thomas6837
    @thomas6837 5 років тому

    Magnus confused the computer.

  • @dallisjohnson662
    @dallisjohnson662 5 років тому

    It's kinda strange to see Magnus win a game. -11/19/2018

  • @kanejacob
    @kanejacob 4 роки тому

    Magnus is Magnus and we are whatever we are hahaha

  • @jimmyalderson1639
    @jimmyalderson1639 5 років тому

    Who's the real winner, Ben or Rensch?

  • @danielemessina1979
    @danielemessina1979 7 років тому +5

    The most viewed video will be the one where you get Magnus to say "very suspicious".

  • @ASFRamon
    @ASFRamon 5 років тому

    Why didn’t you play King F5 instead of resigning, you could’ve totally avoided mate and maybe even turned the game around considering you were only a pawn down?

  • @bobdole7292
    @bobdole7292 7 років тому

    hey ben!!!!!!!!