Mr. Hobby Acrysion Vs. Aqueous - Comparing These Acrylic Paints For Model building
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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2022
- In todays video I compare Mr. Hobby's Aqueous paints to their Acrysion paints. These are their acrylic paints in their vast line up of paints. They are very different from each other and perform vastly different too. Which one is right for you? Let's find out.
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I love your in-depth videos that show every step of the hand brushing and airbrushing. Always a great reference for me when I’m looking into new products!
Glad you are on the scene and testing so many different paints so thoroughly. Never heard you bash any paints which is cool, just point out the pros and cons for them. Thanks for these I am able to make a more informed decision and be better prepared for what to expect. I really like that you even reviewed the Harbor Freight ABs to show viewers that even if they are not the greatest they can still get some decent results with some practice.
Nice colours! Nice consistency! Thanks for sharing Rex!
Congratulations! You're the very first to airbrush the Acrysion line on UA-cam. Great job showing this unknown to most of us paint. I'm still convinced the Aqueous line is the way to go for building most models. I had bought the complete line and Mr. Hobby mentioned that they are going to bring back all the other colors again which are the higher number paints. Thanks for taking your time to do it right!
Your such a help with all the ideas and reviews! Thank you! Your awesome!
Another great comparison! Thank you!
Best informative videos on paints and airbrushes in my opinion.
Great video as always. Never thought I'd enjoy videos of model paints lol. As others have mentioned in the comments I always known tamiya paints to be alcohol based and not lacquer. This is why they have a separate line of lacquers. Haven't tried these mr hobby variants as I prefer mainly using lacquers and use enamels and tamiya acrylics for detail brush work. I just got your enamels and look forward to testing them out. Keep the great videos.
FANTASTIC, And wanted to say Thank you very very much that kit is AMAZING !!!!!!
I've been using the new Acrysion formula paints for a few months now and I'm pretty happy with the results. I live in an apartment and wanted to try pure acrylic due to lack of smell but was never satisfied with Vallejo other than the Model Air/Game Air/Mecha colors (when I could get them). I haven't had access to any Mr. Color brand paint in my area in the past and ordered some through Spraygunner but they are out of stock in many colors. Will give gundampros a try.
Great video, thank you. I just started dabbling with Aqueous.
Great content as always - keep the information coming. Happy New Year!
Amazing. I am floored by how awesome your videos are. Thank you for all the hard work you do for us.
Thanks buddy, I'm doing my best. Much appreciated
@@barbatosrex9473i just order 3 bottle of acrysion to give it a try. May i know is it possible to store it in those dropper bottle like Vallejo paint then just add in a small mixing ball for shaking up the paint?
I would love to see a video testing the Acrysion or some other water based clear colors, specifically over (acrylic) metallic paints. I think candy coats using water based paints are relatively unexplored.
Great video thanks for sharing. Note if you use acrysion with de minirelized water works ok
Man Mr Hobby always has the most confusing naming. I kept thinking the Aqueous was water based, cause you know "Aqua" "Water". Acrysion sounds like it would be more alcohol based by the name...too dang confusing.
I agree, the reason why is because Aqueous where Mr hobby's first water soluable paint. The paint is far from new but the Acrysion is much newer.
I thought the same thing.
Pretty much all hobby lacquer paints are acrylic lacquers (Mr Color, Gaianotes, MRP, etc). Nitrocellulose lacquers are only used in a few very specialised fields (some musical instruments, for example). Water-based acrylics (Like Vallejo, etc), alcohol-based acrylics (Tamiya, Mr Hobby Aqueous) and lacquer-based acrylics (Mr Color, etc) all have acrylic binders, but different ones with different chemistry and properties (there are a *lot* of different types of acrylic).
Yeah exactly. The Tamiya X and XF paints are not like SMS or MRP as the former are alcohol based acrylics and the latter are lacquer based. Which means what was stated at the 2 minute mark was incorrect.
If you want a lacquer based Acrylic in the tamiya line you used to have to decant the spray paints. Now they have release the LP line of paints.
Dont forget that Humbrol enamel etc are acrylic too just enamel (oil) based acrylics,
@@bluechucky He is not wrong Mrp is a acrylic lacquer just like Tamiya and Aqueous. Its just that they use different solvents in it but their still both acrylic lacquers. Tamiya is based out of Isopropyl and Butyl ethers while Mrp is based on a cellulose based chemical and not alcohol. The Mrp's or Mr color or Tamiya LP that are cellulose based are much more resistant to stuff like sanding because the chemical in it is stronger.
@@statoilbensin2190 No, I’m pretty sure Humbrol (as with most hobby enamel paints) uses an alkyd resin binder. It’s essentially a synthetic version of the ‘drying oils’ used in oil paints, and not an acrylic.
(Their water-based acrylic line is an acrylic, though.)
@@statoilbensin2190 Well technically yes, paint that uses a solvent and dries by evaporation is a lacquer, but by saying Tamiya X and XF range are the same as SMS/MRP range indicates they are equivalent and can be mixed which isn’t the case.
Most people (and this isn’t helped by many paint companies) associate lacquer to mean strictly cellulose based thinning agent.
So useful review thanks.
Those paints look great, I've got plenty of solvent paints but those pure acrylics are interesting... especially if they are real durable. I have Army Painter right now and they aren't that durable unless they coat them. Can't wait to see the next part of your paint line! Thanks for all you do!
You're welcome buddy, thanks for watching
Happy New Year Rex....another great review!!!
Great vid thank you for sharing!
Nice video. The proof is clear!!
Heeey, I see those Hobbymios in the background. I've bought a few of those (and I really like their Knight Gold and Green Gold)
Also I've tried hobbymio's metalizers and they look great imo
I just subscribed to your channel because you do a great job! you are always ready to answer our questions and you introduce us to superb products!
Thank you my friend
The coolest part of Aqueous line is that they can be cleaned up with Ammonia/glass cleaner. It makes it soo easy to fix mistakes from brush painting.
I've just used Super Metallics, they are great. Chrome silver is ok even over plain white plastic (I only degreased it). I also have a few Acrysions but I am not thrown away from them, I might give them a second try though.
Oh! Hobby mio review coming!!
Thanks good job
I feel like you should write a book. With all your knowledge it would be a wonderful reference book, especially for new air-brushers like me.
Fantastic idea
Mr. Barbatos Rex, Happy New Year my friend. Very informative video, as always. All the best for an awesome 2022. Kudos to you.
Thanks my friend, happy new year
Looking forward to hobby mio paint review XD
i love you bro, thank you very much for your tutorials
been using acrysion with my airbrush..
cleaning it with ur 'acrylics cleaner' formula and it worked perfectly, i always clean after i done with spraying.. only took 2-3 cleaning cycle
my ratio for cleaner :
120 ml window cleaner (mine is mr. muscle glass cleaner)
120 ml distilled water
80 ml IPA 99%
10 drops of glycerin
should be the same ratio with yours
Great info, thanks buddy 👍
I just bought a jar of Acrysion in Fluorescent Pink. I thinned it 1:1 with 91% IPA and it worked like a charm. That’s the same thing I do for Aqueous.
It works with mr levelling thinner as well , something your regular will turn to goo with , so Acrysion is defenitely unlike any other acrylic , it is more resistant to scratch too
A good comparison Rex but I think I will use the kiss principle and stay with the aqueous and levelling thinner which I'm happy with for both Tamiya and Mr Hobby. BTW, SMS have just released a new range called Advance which is the same lacquer /acrylic but in smaller jars and can be either brushed straight out of the jar or thinned for airbrushing. I like the SMS range generally and their metallics are great also and overall a great range of colours. Keep up the great content and happy New Year.
SMS have now released their own water based acrylic line called infinite colour. It's not bad, but is a semi gloss where as I prefer flat.
Absolutely fantastic review, extremely informative, Thank you very much and please keep em coming. Everyone keep yourselves and love ones safe and healthy. HAVE A FANTASTIC AND SAFE WEEKEND 😀 😊
Great video. I started out with Aqueous and was always curious about Acrysion. One thing I don't like about the Aqueous line is that it has mostly gloss paints and very few flat options. But the real winner here is the Aqueous Primer. I switched to that as my main primer because of those really smooth finishes.
But the Aqueous colors for millitary are flat or semi gloss. The basic colors are gloss because they are for anime, car models and gunpla.
@@statoilbensin2190 for the most part yes. However, I find a lot of the Tamiya equivalents in a flat option despite some of them being anime colors as well. For me it's about having options. I wish Aqueous would adopt a system similar to Tamiya's X and XF. Great paints though. An easy fix for the gloss limitation is to use their flat base additive. Would've preferred more of it being standalone, but it's better than nothing.
You should use their GX range as primer , it is their highest quality pigment
Wow, another great test! I've had good luck using Fantastic straight out of the bottle for thinning down my straight acrylics, but I don't know if that would work in this case. I was curious if you've ever used CrystaLac Brite tone for your car models? It's a high solids acrylic/polyurethane water based clear and you can get a deep finish with just a few coats and it's tough.
I will check those out, thanks for the info
thanks wow i have nerver seen comments like this on your channel but idid learn something and im just a scratch build junkie but i get it 😅🤩😍
Thx for your video, save my tiem
Could you show us some different primers and how to mix them to spray through the airbrush?
Nice video. I think I’ll stick with my solvents. When I want an acrylic I’ll use Revell. Love both their enamels and acrylics.
I started testing Badger acrylic paints and I have to say they're the best acrylic paints I've used so far
@@barbatosrex9473 nice. Look forward to that review.
Thank you in advance.
I have some of these but don’t want to get more because I have too many lacquer colors.
But I believe lacquer will be replaced by water based paint years later
Mr. Paint has a real nice line of pure acrylics also. Some real nice colors in there . Nice review
I have MRP paints here, real nice
I have experienced with Tamiya acrylic flat black, brushing I get a satin or eggshell sheen but, airbrushing I get flat black (soot) which is what I like about Tamiya acrylic flat black.
Normally I prefer solvent based paints. I like them better than acrylics. When my son was 7-8 years old he wanted to paint models with me, so I switched to (at the time) full acrylics. Now at 32 he couldn't care less, so I went back to lacquer & enamels. Besides they hold up better on my outdoor trains, regardless of weather. Only hassel is finding a UV resistant flat clear coat.
When i've brush painted Aqueous i have a small pot of water and when the paint starts to dry and drag on the brush i dip it
into the water and add the water to part i'm painting and it helps the paint to not dry so fast
I would like to be that person who goes "Well technically". Any paint is a true acrylic paint if it contains an acrylic medium. Now the solvent can differ. Water can be the solvent, alcohol can be the solvent. Some types of alcohols are soluble in water so for certain alcohol based paints you can still then them with water (Like tamiya acrylic paint)
How about the vallejo airbrush thinner? And airbrush cleaner? They seems to work like a charm with citadel and vallejo water acrylics
Might be thin with alcohol also instead of water I wonder if they have MDS sheets on the Tamia paints?
Great video buddy
An important question what is the shelf life of acrylics vs non pure acrylics , why put money in them if they become unuseable after x-years , enamels and lacquers hold a long time
Hey I just learned that there are two different versions of the "Acrysion Solvent for Airbrush". There is the one you show at 4:57 with the all green label. That bottle has a product code of T-314. There is another one with more white label. It's green lettering on a white background and it says "Acrysion Solvent-R for Airbrush". It has a product code of T-315. This is actually what I have. Note also that the T-315 solvent is 100% clear. I poured it into a glass dropper bottle and it's indistinguishable from water. It has a pretty strong odor, with an obvious whiff of acetone.
Anyway, now I'm really curious as to why there are two different airbrush solvents for this stuff. Maybe this is why I'm having such a hard time getting a nice glossy finish. I've ordered the same bottle that you show at 4:57 so I'm super curious if I'll have better results once it arrives in the mail in a week or so.
Waiting for hobbymio paint review!
Mr Barbatos I have the white Aqueous surfacer but it wont work well most of the time. Large blobs of paint is realesed from the needle of the spraycan. I always clean my spraynozzel's so it must be something about the badge being bad. I also always warm my cans before I use them. I am going to dry decan it for airbrush do you thing that will fix it?
I'm wondering if the acrysion airbrush solvent is a polyurethane additive combined with thinner since mission models poly additive is milky looking as well.
Just finished watching this vlog. May be I missed something, but would you care to advise me the ratio of thinning Tamiya acrylic for brush painting ?
Excellent video, but boy am I confused on paints. I am a nood in airbrushing, and ordered the Procon PS-270. What paint is an easy, good beginner paint for a .2 nozzle. I'm ok with a little solvent based paint. What do you recommend? Thanks
thanks mate ⚡⚡⚡
You're welcome 👍
I clean up Aqueous with 91% Isopropyl and flush with water afterwards. Works great and cheap. Aqueous' solvent smells like Iso too.
Funny thing is the acrysion thinner for airbrush appears to be discontinued per the website. However, there is a reformulated version being released that calls for less thinner in their recommended ratio. I wonder if you have to shake the new one...?
According to newest info from their official Facebook page, you don’t have to shake the new one
I have aqueous thinner, I don't have aqueous paints but I read somewhere that the thinner is really good for tamiya, especially the clears, and yes it's good.
True, they're very similar in chemistry
@@barbatosrex9473 yup, its also a lot cheaper for me
I have to order all my paints and supplies online
hey bro,.. what camera that u use for record this video,..thank yuo,...
I know with painting, like a traditional canvas or wood. You have to watch what order you layer different paint types. They dry at different speeds. If the under layer dries slower then the top, it will crack. So oil paint over acrylic is fine. But acrylic over oils will crack because the oil dries a lot slower. I’m new to model paint, not sure it’s an issue. But something to think about.
Similar thing will happen. If you spray lacquer over enamel paint it might crack
can you use laqcuer thinner for the acrysion to clean your brush
I'd stick with alcohol for the Acrysion, or hot water
Have you tested the Aqueous surfacer 1000 available in the jars? I have found that they make a grey, white, and black. All are available on ebay and ship from Taiwan. I really appreciate your videos they are very helpful.
I just got them in. I have grey and white jars. No black here yet in the US. They sold here in the US now
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Did you know that there is a new copper for the Super Metallic line as well? #209 kopper I think that the spelling was a little off when I saw it.
Rex, I think you misunderstand what the term "acrylic" means. Acrylics are the polymer resin, but does not necessarily mean the paint is water based. If you see "lacquer" the paint is 100% solvent based and contains no water at all, so acrylic lacquer is solvent paint that has acrylic polymer as its resin binder. On the other hand there are 2 different kinds of water based paints. "Water based" means water is the carrier and has no solvent. There is also "waterborne" in which water takes 80% of the solvent used, and the rest is another solvent of some kind like alcohol. So the flammable symbol mean the other 20% is a true solvent, and in turn makes the paint flammable.
The best way to explain it is probably that the regular Mr. Color Line is a non-aqueous alcohol-based paint (aka lacquer), Aqueous and Tamiya are aqueous alcohol-based paints, and Acrysion is a water-based paint, like most acrylics.
You can thin Acrysion with water, though like with all acrylics too much water can mess it up, so it's not recommended for airbrushing. Works fine for brush painting though. You can thin Aqueous and Tamiya with water, but it won't work nearly as well as a proper thinner. Mr.Color and its derivatives cannot be thinned by water at all.
Could you please do a full video on how to get good results with Acrysion? I have some of these paints and I am having great difficulty getting nice results. I bought their brand of solvent for airbrush, and I’m mixing it at their recommended levels, but I just can’t get a nice level surface. I always get orange peel and it’s very frustrating to work with.
Btw I am using “Acrysion Solvent-R for Airbrush”. White label with green lettering. I always shake before using.
What do u recommend to seal acrylics with a protective coat? I bought some Vallejo Mecha Varnish Matt, Gloss & Satin to try them out. Tested some Duplicolor Clear Lacquer but it didn't do much, still scratches easily.
You can get great results with Tamiya and Mr Clears. Both work great.
@@barbatosrex9473 Will check those out thanks.
Can I use the acrysion solvent on the aqueous paints to thin for airbrush?
I wouldn't. If you want to thin the Aqueous for airbrushing and you don't have their thinner just use rubbing alcohol
Hey mate, have you covered AK brand, be interesting to see how you go about thinning it for airbrush use, cheers.
I have a full line up of AK 3rd Gen paints. I'm planning a test video
@@barbatosrex9473 Your a legend, thanks for your replies.. keep up the good work, i am looking at getting a box of those Mecha paints
@@ryanandtech3164 thanks buddy, you'll love the Mecha Empire paints. Getting great feedback too from the guys that have purchased them
just Curious, Why don't you do extensive testing with Ammo by Mig Paint like yo do with alcad and mr.Hobby?
i bought the aprox 40 bottles of Acrysion....unfortunately between that Mr. Hobby lacquer based, Vallejo and Tamiya Acrylic.....I tend to gravitate towards Tamiya and Mr Hobby lacquer just for the ease of use. I never could get Vallejo and Acrysion to work the way I like.
If I had to pick from those it would definitely be Mr and Tamiya. Nothing compares to solvent paints in my opinion. I will be testing an acrylic paint soon that I believe is the best acrylic I've ever used
Question for you, I saw on Reddit Acrysion is considered an older paint? Is Aqueous suppose to replace it's line up in the future?
Just used some Arcysion paints for the first time. Used Mr Color Leveling Thinning but got a sandy/grainy texture while airbrushing. Didn't realize you have to use their special thinner for it. Tempted to try airbrushing some with no thinner at all while I wait. Colors looks great though. Very vibrant.
I'm personally not a fan of the Acrysion paint line because it's very tricky to spray. Take your time with it and be sure to shake the thinner before for you use it
nice vid
How many spoons do you think you've painted in your modeling lifetime?
I have been waiting for this! Also where do I find youre email?
Are both paint one size? (10ml) or (23ml)?
Both the same as their Mr Color line. 10ml
Acrysion are not pure water based. They have a small amount of organic solvent, hence the smell. But not enough to make them flammable.
To my nose, Acrysion has the same smell as latex house paint. Unlike Vallejo and other pure acrylics, it definitely has an odor. I find that it behaves differently as well. It tends to stretch out into translucency along the edge. Definitely unique.
its easier to clean them with alcohol, that what I do.
How to mix the aqueous surfacer
Same, with lacquer thinner
@@barbatosrex9473 as in the leveling thinner
@@xdjason yes
MLT will make paints shinier since it allows the pigment so self level. If you want a matter result, use the rapid thinner.
I am guessing the brush applied paints dry glossier since you went with very thick coats. Quite impressive result anyway, with no brush strokes.
I gave a good stir on my acrysion I bought today, but it just won’t seem to apply
Sad to say like the results here, Aqueous is the way better paint. I got rid of my Acrysion. It's just not a good blend of paint. It's like you're always fighting with it.
@@barbatosrex9473 damn that sucks. Hope I can return and exchange for aqueous.
@@barbatosrex9473 sorry a little off topic but when the instructions say 60% of one color and 40% of another. Does it mean to mix or does it mean paint the larger percentage first and then apply the other
@@barbatosrex9473 hey so I actually applied the me hobby acrysion clear primer on my model before painting and you know what it did the job. The paint held together. Actually worked quite well
@@skularatna8136 that's great. A primer with Acrysion helps out big time
Wrong, those are both Acrylics. Acrysion is a trade name. Not a type of paint. One of these is most likely an acrylic water based emulsion, the other, Acrysion, is a solvent based Acrylic solution and not a hybrid. The word “hybrid” is used to describe the resin type. Pleases don’t confuse brand names with type of coating. In coatings the water or solvent is not a part of the resin (Acrylic) but a solvent or carrier for the resin. And totally leaves the coating as it dries. Both water and solvent can be used in the same hobby model coatings and are often done to control spraying and other properties. Thanks for sharing how these two brands work and how they look.
Acrysion is the water based version of Mr Color Paints. Aqueous is the Alcohol solvent version (much like Tamiya X and XF paints). He compares Tamiya X and XF with SMS/MRP paint but these are different again, SMS/MRP are Lacquer solvents. There is quite a few mistakes made in the first 3 minutes of this video.
@@bluechucky , someone sure must not speak English as a native tongue. This just proves that people can string together some of the dumbest things for use as trade names. No wonder there is confusion as to what these are. Aqueous means water or water containing. Thank you for correcting me.
@@bluechucky Acrysion is still partly solvent based. Organic solvent is listed in the ingredients. Only a small amount though.
no need messing around with different airbrush cleaning agents, blast some acetone through it, wipe out the cup and move on, regardless of what type of paint you spray. acetone rules, I'll never clean my iwatas with anything else.
I think a lacquer is a lacquer though. Still not safe! Haha I mean these tamiya acrylics are very strange paints bc they paint like a lacquer with a hand brush..but tamiya has an LP line that is an “acrylic lacquer” but it still an unsafe lacquer. Acrylic does not mean water based but 90% of the time in this hobby scene it DOES! so it gets very confusing. But..with that being said. Things like Mr Color, and Tamiya LP are acrylic true lacquer hobby paints..they are “hot” and “dangerous” in a sense. But these tamiya XF is just a water based acrylic. But everything in this video described as an acrylic lacquer is just as much a lacquer as mr color and any other hobby lacquer. They will need lacquer thinner for use. And the thinner is what’s dangerous.
Mmmmmmmm..........? Can Acrysion really only be thinned by their own proprietary thinner. From Mr. Rex's other videos I think he said Ultimate (brand) thinner would thin almost any acrylic paint.
Ultimate works. For the record Acrysion is my least favorite paint. Got rid of them right after this video. FYI I found out recently that it's made for brushing, not really for airbrushing, I found out through Mr Hobby themselves
I dont understand regarding the acrysion ratio, if i dilute whole bottle is the thinner should be half of the paint bottle?
5:50 Actually, I found this thinner's color is related temperature, when room temperature is below somewhere in 15℃ it will be clear no matter how you shake.