Thanks so much! Would not be doing these videos if it was not for channels like yours! Appreciate all the help and advice (and amazing content) you have given.
The track looked fantastic, you have put a ton of work into bringing it back around! The cars looked absolutely terrific and went around it very well. The camera work was great and I enjoyed this one a ton!!! Great job and fantastic run!.
Thanks so much bud! Labor of love for sure. Think I enjoy all the camera stuff as much as I do driving them. Appreciate the great comment and view my friend.
Great entertainment. I love to see these old iconics run. Its is so amazing how they literally bite into the curves. A great performance for buggies from the 80´s. They were really ahead of their time back then.
I was a skate rat and video game fan of the 80’s, I never owned a real RC car and yet I love your videos! The engineering of these cars is really impressive (as is your deep understanding ). Love the 80’s vibe. Growing up I had friends lust over the Grasshopper. That was my limited understanding of the RC world. Also loved your Hornet vs Frog video. Thank you for making these ! Btw, as a Dad of an 8 and 10 year daughters , I love how you make these with your kid!
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC Yes! So funny, all these different young-dude sub cultures. Funny how it was always about the gear and how to keep upgrading. Simpler times!
Thanks so much. The Tammy cars are how I got involved in all of this and why I love RC so much. I can clearly remember sitting at the kitchen table with Pop (rip) and watching a Hornet grow from what looked like a bunch of bits to me. Sorry we have been shy on content...but we have some life stuff in the way right now.
I never did get to have a hobby grade RC car in the '80s. My best friend had a frog I think it was but only because his father was in the airplanes at the time. My first RC car later on in life was a rustler VXL but I really do want to get one of these ones from my childhood that I never got to have.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC yeah …. That’s some next level camera shots and content. Great track and you have a amazing family!! A special shout out to your daughter from all of us! That’s amazing father and daughter time! I love my kids as well! So looking forward to your next comparison videos! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I appreciate how you took apart the chassis, and diffs to articulate the distinct technical and mechanical characteristics. Your walkthroughs are not only insightful, they also bring back fond memories of those old-school cartoon intros back in the day. Brilliant! 👍
Thanks so much for the kind words. We try to keep that stuff as exciting as possible while still educating. Glad you enjoyed the intro. Super fun when we get time to do those. Appreciate the nice comment and view
After watching this car battle and that kick ass Air Wolf inspired intro.. I went and brought the Super Hot Shot. Upgraded the motor to a RS540 sports tuned and lithium battery.
Great comparison of these 2 iconic Tamiya 4WDs. I wonder if the lack of front anti sway bar on the Supershot affect the handling (less off power steering) compared to the Hotshot, hmmm? Anyway, time to rebuild mine after more than 40 years inside the box. Thanks for your video☺
Thank you so much....we really appreciate it. This one by far has been our most controversial video. On paper it makes no sense...lol. the results are the results though. Was super fun doing this one for sure.
Really excellent! Thanks a lot to put so much time in the editing/synchronising, it really worth it! Also your great vid' is the first I think on UA-cam to compare seriously the HotShot & the SuperShot :)
Big thumbs up to you sir for keeping these as long as you had and putting them out on the track for us. This video makes me want to purchase both re-re kits for my Tamiya collection.
Really enjoyed this video. I wish I had a SuperShot. The camera work was excellent. My three favorite views were the one where your daughter panned around the track to follow the car (great work!), the view from up high where you could see most of the track, and the view from the camera mounted on the tripod showing the two jumps along the fences. Looking forward to seeing more cars running on your awesome track!
Thanks so much...and I appreciate knowing what cameras you like (helps us tune for the next one). The Super shot is such a great looking RC (perhaps my favorite Tamiya). Appreciate the view and positive comments.
Thanks so much. We try to get a bit technical while not putting folks asleep. Was a bit worried about the length on this one. Appreciate the view/comment.
Thanks friend. Although it slows down production a lot...we like the look of the intro videos. Hopefully we can do more in the future. Cars ran great and were a blast to drive. Just broke some old plastic. Appreciate it bud!
The intro video was the kids idea. I just try and come up with a theme. The goal was 80s action show blended with a vintage Tamiya showcase video on this one 100% thanks for noticing! Appreciate the view and comment.
What a great video... masterfully done. I really dig the vintage feel at the beginning of the video showcasing these buggies. Great camera work and angles... Really capture these RC's in their glory. A well put together video. Great stuff!
Man...thanks so much bud! Super appreciate you guys and the wonderful comment. It's really nice when we have time to do the big videos like that. Learn something new every time.We love RcRetro...you guys rock!
I had a Super Sabre in the late 80s, I wore the drive train out and it ended up being RWD. It was noticably faster and more fun to drive RWD due to all friction and understeer with the 4WD system.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC I think I went through three sets of drive cups and dog bone pins alone. lol. The metal was a bit soft back in those days! Thanks for doing the battles, any new ones on the horizon?
I got hotshot in 1985 . I still think this is the best buggy car for me. Some function make me feel a little bit old,but nothing to do with me at all for me. Thank you for your good video. It was so fun 😊
Love the box art look for both to be honest. The red just pops on the hot. The Hotshot is a great kit! Enjoy the build if you pick one up and thanks for the comment friend.
That was super fun to watch and very interesting! Clearly you've put a lot of work into the video and it shows! Thanks for sharing these classics in action and have a great Sunday my friend!
Thanks bud. We try to do things to the best of our ability and equipment allows. It's been fun to do but unfortunately makes it very slow to put out content (the old cell phones really delay things during the shoot). We really appreciate the nice comment and view brother.
Wish I still had my II. Could run a bigwig...but I don't feel it will be any faster (it's pretty heavy). Thanks for the view and comment. Appreciate it.
What an awesome shootout of the HotShot brothers! Both cars ran really well. The Hotshot did seem a little more composed around the track and it shows in the lap times. Love the multiple camera angles and 80s inspired soundtrack. You really captured the action very well. Keep it up！👏👏👏😊
That rankings list you have is worth its weight in gold. You've done all the hard work for us. Excellent information if you're trying to decide what a fast car would be for vintage race days. I'm shopping for a hotshot right now. Which is what led me to here.. Looks like I'll be at the pointy end of the field with Hotshot. Ive been tossing up between a hotshot and a wild one. Hotshot it is. .
G'day mate that was so cool to see them go head to head. My first car was Grasshopper that was awesome for a few years and then I got the Hotshot next mate was 1986 I'd never seen anything like it that Hotshot handled so good. But because I was so young I suffed up building one of the 2 shocks oil leaks so I did get the Hotshot Supershot upgrade suspension kit for it lol thought it made it handle better lol but no steering any more. I recon it might be because no front stabiliser on Supershot. I still have my Hotshot in bits 95% complete and I just got a Superhotshot for my 50 birthday lol and candy green Grasshopper reliving my childhood always wanted a Supershot sine I was a kid. Awesome video mate 👍👍
Man that's an awesome story my friend. What a nice way to celebrate your 50th as well! Best part of doing these videos are the amazing back in the day stories for sure! Appreciate the support and enjoy that build.
I just lusted after my neighbours Super Hornet as a kid soooo badly. I have always wanted a good RC car and yesterday I finished my first ever build of my HotShot 🔥 absolutely love it! Thanks for the great videos!
Awesome video, love these comparisons. I have both cars also and the super shot seems a slightly heavier car with 2 extra shocks, undertray and hardware compared to the hotshot. Mine weighs a lot with the RC channel metal arms and it needs a lot more power to get the car up to speed also. Great video can't wait for the next 👌🏻
Have not put both on the scales...but I would agree it's probably heavier. I'm thinking with some different springs it will be a little bit faster. Might need to test that out. Thanks for the view and nice comment.
Awesome video with some serious work. Love these buggies. Result blew me away but you can see the difference on the track. Yes the Supershot out the box would be better but I was pleased with the comparison. Now to repair and back on the shelf 😁
Really can see it bud. The rotation is real! Some softer front or harder rear (or both) on the super and it's game over imo. Who knows though...might need to test this theory. Thanks for the support friend.
Love it. Been looking forward to this shootout. I love my Hot Shot and am NOT convinced that four-shocks is an “upgrade” ;) The engineering on the mono-shocks is so amazing and one can hardly believe that it actually works pretty well. I learned the off-power (over-steer)/on-power (under-steer) steering characteristics of this car pretty quick. I love how it snaps around corners if you come in fast and let off the throttle at the last second and then lay down the power on the exit. So much fun and super fast if you can get the timing right (which I manage about half the time, haha). Take care!
Exactly how I learned to drive it! Only had like three practice laps before the shoot (did not want to destroy the car) and was shocked with the amount of steering. I had assumed the drag brake was set or something. Just how it drives. Super fun!
I think the 2 shocks in rear is a good upgrade, but they need to be set up with stronger dampening/pretension. Definetly sits to low without any spacers. At the front i like the boomerang suspension more, the 2 ears holding the front shocks are prone to damage.
@@schuttrostig5729 From a performance perspective I would agree that two shocks offers more tune ability. But from a fun I-can’t-believe-it-actually-works perspective, I like the mono shocks. Totally agree about the cantilever design of the front shock pivot ears-what were the engineers thinking?
awesome cars and awesome video as usual 🙂frankly the content of this channel is unbeatable. Very fun 80's style music arrangement (let me guess: a mix of knight rider and airwolf ?) Keep it up !
I had a Hotshot... Bought it new in September 1985! Added the HS2 shocks a year later or so. The only car that kicked it's ass was the original RC-10! So smooth and quick. Also lighter. If overcame the traction of the 4WD system... Super cool setup, but way too many gears! Thanks for the blast from the past!
Thanks my friend. Appreciate the cool story as well. One of the reasons we do these videos is to try and get folks to re connect with the good old days of RC.
Love them. Still got my clodbuster,hornet and Boomerang from the 80's. Use the Hornet a bit as its so strong. Funny everyone's trying to get the perfect mowed grass and your trying to get that perfect smooth dirt yard LOL. Pick the RC'r yard, grass, grass, grass and dirt. bingo
I have the hotshot and I find it one of my favourite cars ever to drive. It is an absolute sand drift beast. I’ve spent many a hour four wheel drifting it. It’s also tough which is good because when I built it I could see it would be a maintenance headache . But it’s definitely an all time fave which I run often 😊👍
Great run with both HotShots! I am currently building the 1985 HotShot that the rc elf sent me and i cant wait to take it out for a spin! Seems like the SuperShot just went up on my to get list... Thank you for sharing and have a great upcoming week 🙂👍
Thanks so much friend. Appreciate the kind words. Elf rocks! Enjoy the build bud. Super is such a good looking RC. Should be on the must have list imo.
That's epic rc content mate 👏 the number of cameras may be a bit much, but I very appreciate your efforts! I was looking for that exact comparison due to the upcoming blockhead hotshot 2 release 😅
Once again I love your videos. The Airwolf-style music is awesome. I really like the Hotshot - it was my dream RC car when I was a nipper and as soon as I got the bug again in middle age I got the re-release. It is such a sturdy platform; my son prefers it to the Grasshopper because he finds it so easy to drive - I think it's the understeery nature. I wish it was a little more loose, it benefits from a bit of torque to release the rear, and mine does not like hairpins... The one thing I really dig about the SuperShot is the full length bash plate; the hotshot's low ride height gives it s a lot of ground contact. Generally I find it is tougher than its reputation, but there's a machine screw threaded into that hexagonal nut that acts as a bumper stay, and i've pulled that out twice through various tree interactions (my fault) but i never broke the actual bumper...
Thanks so much for the comment/view and awesome story! Had bumper issues as well (unfortunately broke an ear off). In hindsight I should have ordered a re-re one before I ran it. Chalking it up to old plastic. I adored the HotShot when I was a lad...no way mom and pop could have ever afforded to buy it for me back then. I really love doing the music...and appreciate when people notice for sure! Thanks again my friend.
Your production quality is second to none. So glad to see another video from you. Love the 6 camera work. Post-production must be a bear. what software are you using? It's amazing!
Thanks brother...really appreciate it. The cam work is tough and slightly overwhelming at times...but the kid does a great job "marking" the cams before a run ( a few loud hand claps ) so we can sync them via audio during post. It's tough mixing the different formats and cell camera resolutions for the final render as well. For instance we could only go to 2k this time because of glitching in the final render. In an ideal world we would have a bunch of current go pros...but we simply can't afford that. Using Sony Vegas (I think it's 17) currently. Been amazing learning this stuff on the fly...wish I could do it as my real life job! I enjoy it that much.
Thanks so much brother. It's absolutely the reason it takes us so long to put out running content. It's a ton of work trying to seamlessly string all the cameras together. Labor of love for sure. Currently flopping back and forth between Sony Vegas and Divinchi Resolve. For me the workflow is faster with Vegas but it crashes a lot...and I am constantly going backward during an edit. Divinchi has been rock solid (I just need to learn it). Our greatest challenge is equipment. In a perfect world, I would have all gopros and maybe a nice dslr. We have 2 gopros and 4 old cell phones....lol. Will always make what we have work. I have absolutely enjoyed learning how to do all the editing stuff. Always appreciate when someone wants to know more about the process.
Incredible shootout! I've always loved the Hot Shot, and hope someday to get a Re-Re... Don't actually want an original, because I run everything! 😊 The Hot Shot has been surprising me on several Channels, running WITH modern high performance Buggies!! Your daughter's Camerawork is PRO Level. She's very talented!!
It's actually a really great car. The controll arms are a bit fragile so I would grab a spare set. Also front knuckles crack every once in a while. Otherwise the re-re should go good for you. I might pick one up myself so I have no worries about beating up on a vintage bit. My daughter thanks you for the kind words. I could not do this without her help and support. Thanks so much friend.
I have a HOTSHOT and love it, I'm gonna get another one for the display case and I'm waiting on the new Hotshot Blockhead to be released soon, pretty stoked on gettin the Blockhead.
Thanks friend. Love the Fox as well. Was fun to do the shootout video with that car. Appreciate the kind words. Slow-mo is always super fun to do and is a good way to wrap the videos up.
I think the Super Shot would have benefitted from keeping the front sway bar, for cornering. I've usually noticed that they do help, like with my Sand Viper after adding them.
Very surprised the Hotshot looked so much quicker in the video. As you said better turning was obvious. Good work would love to take my Bigwig around and see how bad that is 🤣
At 1st I was not sure I could even make a lap with the Hot. I actually rolled on a little fwd trim so the esc was almost off neutral and it was dialed. Jumped really nice as well. I have a wig but it's a heafty beast (and all new) so I am reluctant to run it. Who knows though...I'm sure I will get bored of looking at that too...haha. Appreciate the view/comment my friend.
I bought aluminum hubs for my super hot shot because I knew it was putting a lot of power through it and I'm still going to put a 3800 in it and the aluminum hubs are hard to find I had to get mine from Korea you wouldn't break a hub again probably I mean at the wheel.
I started in the hobby in Christmas '86 with a Boomerang. Still have it (in a cupboard with a LiPo & 10.5 brushless motor in it) If you have access to them, you need to run the Hotshot, Supershot, Boomerang, Bigwig and Hotshot 2 against each other. They show the evolution of the chassis configuration but utilise the same gearbox arrangement. I'm sure, as the Boomerang is the best (😉), it will win.
Had all of them at one point...Unfortunately life happened and I had to sell off about half of "the good stuff" years ago. Boomer is a fantastic car (wish I still had one). Appreciate the great story and view brother.
Ah, so history did repeat itself. When Losi made their 8ight 3.0, their intent was to make the car easier to drive, resulting in more consistent but slightly _slower_ lap times compared to the 8ight 2.0. While it wasn't necessarily a matter of switching from a fancy, overengineered setup to something simpler and more proven in that car's case, it was definitely a repeat of what happened with the Tamiya Hot Shot. I can see Hot Shots qualifying at higher positions while Super Shots end up placing better in mains. Anyway, when can we expect an Avante to grace your track? If and when you eventually get to that car you might want to do a shootout between two of them, one with the factory stock setup and one tuned to correct the vehicle's nasty habits, rather than putting it up against another model.
Would agree...and on a imaginary race day situation...I would use the Super. I don't have an Avante unfortunately. That and a Astute are on my bucket list cars (especially the Astute). Hopefully some day I stumble into one. Appreciate the support and story brother.
I install a BEC circuit on my Frog to reduce the weight of the car. I vaguely remember buying it from the store. I am guessing it must have been the one used on the Hot Shot. I also remember I needed help from someone at my mother’s work to solder it onto the mechanical speed controller to make it work.
I was so happy to see both of these cars. Both of these vehicles are still boxed up in the closet. The super shot belongs to my eighth year old son and I am the owner of the hot shot. I was only 15 at the hobby shop when that came out my face was pressed against the glass every time that I walked home from school. I still can’t believe both are sitting in a box unbuilt!
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC YES YES! I know right NIB and I am just sitting here. There comes this point in time when you just say "I can't open this now"! I am stuck!
@@UlisesBatalla you should totally build it with your son, or find a new owner who also loves it. Then one day you can look back on the memories instead of a box of bits ... If you haven't built in a while there might be some swearing involved, and at eight years old the driving/crashing 🤕 might be more interesting than the building, but that's what *more* RC cars are for 😁
@@Droidy77 I'm going to leave those two on the back burner. And the reason for that is that at this point in time, I noticed something snapped in my 8-year-old. He caught on to the fact that timaya recycles parts mixes them up and then comes out with another kit. That was like a light went on it's almost as if the wall were pulled from over his eyes it's like an epiphany that one has when you notice that to Maya recycles reuses reimagines parts and then comes up with new vehicles. It's always wonderful when there is a brand new, fully engineered, research and development buggy, car, truck or even a semi. Those two are going to stay on the back burner because at this point in time my black grasshopper too, is waiting for the 8-year-old to finish his Terra Nova Nova Terra Nova Fox.. the other issue is that my 6-year-old daughter cannot settle down and go with the white and pink that she has chosen for her re-released frog. Since I already had a black foot that I modified by changing the chassis adding some upgrades allowing it to perform a lot better it even has the chassis that is colored from a different kit. So what is going to happen is once she settles down and pics good old PS1 and whatever PS color fluorescent pink happens to be we will finish that buggy and all three of us will have are two wheel drive Fox frog and grasshopper. They're going to be identical right down to the vintage Futaba m c 210 speed controllers a Futaba s148 servo and a Futaba receiver that is almost as big as the servo. The gentleman from lightspeed gave me a wonderful price on three hand wound 19 turn double armatures that I stuffed into three of those really really cheap Chinese motors that you see on eBay.. sorry that this was such a long message Can anybody explain why they called it the Nova Fox and don't tell me just because the word Nova means new I understand that I'm Spanish and I know what the word means but, it really can't just be that!
@@UlisesBatalla the pink Frog or Neo Frog is a classic look! It sounds like you have "more RC cars" taken care of 🚙🏎️. Most people think they changed the name to Nova Fox because they didn't have permission to use Fox any more. Many decals changed from real racing sponsors to fake, made up names, and they had to make up a new buggy name, too.
Excellent video as always but personally I’d liked to have seen the Supershot as it was meant to be rather than downgraded. I’d like to see how much faster it could be with all its upgrades. Interesting outcome on the video though.
Thanks bud...appreciate the kind words. So the decision was two fold. A. I wanted to A/B the suspension. B. I only have one technigold ( not really the correct motor)...and I did not want to burn it up $$...lol. Shot with more power would most likely be faster.
Nice ! Clearly both seem to miss some dampening in the rear and the super shot could use some spacers in the rear shocks, but if you want to run as in manual then that it is. Though in my manual it clearly suggests to put some spacers in the shocks. Anyway great to see and verry intresting that your hotshot did so well.
Both cars ran great. Rear springs in the super were new from bag and fairly stiff so we went without the preload spacers. All in good fun and was great to air out some vintage Tamiya on a nice summer day. Would love to explore a few shootout videos where we tweak things...but it's hard enough just to get content out for us. Appreciate the view and comment brother.
Hey dude, that intro was fantastic, as was the rest of the video! 6 cameras? OMG! It was great to hear your analysis over the slow motion footage. This really is an awesome video, well done! :O)
Thanks so much! Not sure if we will do the full 6 again...but will absolutely be working on new and fun angles on every video. Appreciate the kind words my friend.
I never owned a hotshot or a super shot. But i did own a hotshot 2. The of red hotshot looks iconic and the super shot isn't as nice. My favourite has to be the hotshot 2. But i am considering getting a hotshot.
The factory cva shocks are actually really good. For my track... the spring balance and stock oil were a bit off. I assume the rere kits still come with the different internal shock pistons. Messing with them will change the pack and rebound internally, and you can also go with a thicker or thinner oil. Lots of information out there on rc shock tuning...and the stock shocks should work well with some tweaks to match your running surface. Hope you enjoy the build my friend. Great kit to pickup.
No doubt that the Super Shot was the better car.. but with that weak standard 540 motor the diffence in the suspension does not show.. With a proper modified motor such as the Technigold the better machine was the Super Shot. Also: Damper setup on the Super Shot provides manu more options.
The concept of 4 shocks sit better with me. If my objective was to upgrade and make it work better....I would have to go with the Super. For old school cool...the standard.
I wanted the super shot to win cuz I had one of those and I have one today and I'm having some gearbox problems because I put a 4600 Castle system in it and I don't know how it alliterated the gear when it didn't do it the first time I've already had two runs out of it.
I too was surprised at the result. Now the Hot Shot II is out you can run it and compare the time. On another note could the weight difference affected the results?
Think its more in the setup and track condition to be honest. Tons of rotation is absolutely helpful on a tight track. Wish I had a Shot II to test. Might be worth a look into conversation parts though. Car spending is on hold for a while...
The cornering difference is made by the hotshot having front and rear anti roll bars fitted, Super shot isn't stiff enough changing direction because of it. Always thought it was a downgrade going to 4 shocks and removing them. Did you weigh the cars? Be interesting to know the difference
I also think the valving and spring rate on the Super is all wrong. One day it will get it's revenge...lol. Weight is about the same with the extra cantilever bits on the Shot...but no I didn't put them on a scale.
Honestly not sure (have not tested). I ran them with the standard Tamiya damper oil ( whatever comes with a Frog rere) in both cars. Built the shocks to 80s stock "kit". Think If I was tuning it...I would look for a bit softer front spring and just tune from there. I ran way more laps with both cars than normally and the Hotshot was faster average lap as well. Same electronics and gearing. I will say if I had to bring one to a vintage race or something....it would be the Super Shot. With some tuning or simply adding more power....its gonna be faster no doubt.
This video is awesome my friend 🤩🤩🤩
I actually think it’s my favourite video you’ve done so far 😎👊🏻
Thanks so much! Would not be doing these videos if it was not for channels like yours! Appreciate all the help and advice (and amazing content) you have given.
Can confirm. Amazing video production, mate!
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Agreed! Great stuff
THANKS BUDDY 👍 LOVE IT❤👍
The track looked fantastic, you have put a ton of work into bringing it back around! The cars looked absolutely terrific and went around it very well. The camera work was great and I enjoyed this one a ton!!! Great job and fantastic run!.
Thanks so much bud! Labor of love for sure. Think I enjoy all the camera stuff as much as I do driving them. Appreciate the great comment and view my friend.
Supershot brings vack so many memories. Thanks!
Appreciate it and glad you enjoyed!
Great entertainment. I love to see these old iconics run. Its is so amazing how they literally bite into the curves. A great performance for buggies from the 80´s. They were really ahead of their time back then.
Agree bud. Such fun cars to drive around!
I was a skate rat and video game fan of the 80’s, I never owned a real RC car and yet I love your videos! The engineering of these cars is really impressive (as is your deep understanding ). Love the 80’s vibe. Growing up I had friends lust over the Grasshopper. That was my limited understanding of the RC world. Also loved your Hornet vs Frog video. Thank you for making these !
Btw, as a Dad of an 8 and 10 year daughters , I love how you make these with your kid!
Thank you so much for the kind words! Loved paging through Thrasher magazine back then (and the awesome skate videos from the 80's). Best of times!
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC Yes! So funny, all these different young-dude sub cultures. Funny how it was always about the gear and how to keep upgrading. Simpler times!
That damned brittle ABS where there ought to be polyurethane or nylon or similar.
Amazed to see the Supershot coming in second too.
Stuff breaks just sitting on my shelf unfortunately. Think there are some nylon 3d printed parts available now adays.
The hotshots suspension is better than oil. And the looks of the red hotshot is so cool!
Just about to build the Hotshot now 😁 love your track, you've inspired me to build one in my garden, can't wait to suprise the wife 😊😄
Fantastic! Love to inspire for sure. Enjoy the build my friend.
Love ur video peace ✌️ go Tamiya best years of my life had Hornet in 85 was 6 year old now have a team associated b7d peace love u vids
Thanks so much. The Tammy cars are how I got involved in all of this and why I love RC so much. I can clearly remember sitting at the kitchen table with Pop (rip) and watching a Hornet grow from what looked like a bunch of bits to me. Sorry we have been shy on content...but we have some life stuff in the way right now.
I never did get to have a hobby grade RC car in the '80s. My best friend had a frog I think it was but only because his father was in the airplanes at the time. My first RC car later on in life was a rustler VXL but I really do want to get one of these ones from my childhood that I never got to have.
That's the best part.
You can snag a reissue Hornet or Frog and re live the good old days!
Love it! The track, the cars, the soundtrack!
Great video as always!
Thanks bud. Love doing as much as we can to take us back to the 80's.
Great video!
You make me happy.
Thanks for good work!
Nice! Your comment makes us happy as well. Thanks for the view and positive energy!
Brilliant vid! Loved watching this
Thank you so much brother!
I’ve been waiting for this and did not disappoint!!! AMAZING!!
Thanks so much! Was a blast to actually drive them! Appreciate it so much.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC yeah …. That’s some next level camera shots and content. Great track and you have a amazing family!! A special shout out to your daughter from all of us! That’s amazing father and daughter time! I love my kids as well! So looking forward to your next comparison videos! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I appreciate how you took apart the chassis, and diffs to articulate the distinct technical and mechanical characteristics. Your walkthroughs are not only insightful, they also bring back fond memories of those old-school cartoon intros back in the day. Brilliant! 👍
Thanks so much for the kind words. We try to keep that stuff as exciting as possible while still educating. Glad you enjoyed the intro. Super fun when we get time to do those. Appreciate the nice comment and view
After watching this car battle and that kick ass Air Wolf inspired intro.. I went and brought the Super Hot Shot.
Upgraded the motor to a RS540 sports tuned and lithium battery.
Love it! Great car...hope the build goes well! Loved doing the intro for this one.
@VINTAGE BACKYARD RC Enjoied the build. Swapped out the Sport Tuned Motor for a Super Stock RZ. Beats my friends Kyosho Optima.
This is awesome! Love your track!
Thanks bud! We have a great time out there for sure!
That was a great video! Enjoyed all aspects of it. The slow motion and the vintage look.
Thank you so much! Was really fun to do as well. Appreciate it.
Great comparison of these 2 iconic Tamiya 4WDs. I wonder if the lack of front anti sway bar on the Supershot affect the handling (less off power steering) compared to the Hotshot, hmmm? Anyway, time to rebuild mine after more than 40 years inside the box. Thanks for your video☺
Thank you so much....we really appreciate it. This one by far has been our most controversial video. On paper it makes no sense...lol. the results are the results though. Was super fun doing this one for sure.
Nice video, I really enjoyed it.
Your analysis it's cool
Thanks brother. Appreciate it very much.
The intro was epic!
Thanks so much friend. We love doing those fun things when time allows for sure.
Really excellent! Thanks a lot to put so much time in the editing/synchronising, it really worth it!
Also your great vid' is the first I think on UA-cam to compare seriously the HotShot & the SuperShot :)
Thanks bud. Was a bit of a challenge...but once we saw the overall look...we were pretty stoked about it. I appreciate the kind words and view.
Big thumbs up to you sir for keeping these as long as you had and putting them out on the track for us. This video makes me want to purchase both re-re kits for my Tamiya collection.
Thanks my friend...really appreciate it. You won't be disappointed in the rere kits. They are just as fun now as they were back then!
And now I just ordered up Super Hot Shot, thanks a lot!
Haha...you are most welcome! Enjoy the kit friend.
Great comparison vid!
Thanks so much!
Really enjoyed this video. I wish I had a SuperShot. The camera work was excellent. My three favorite views were the one where your daughter panned around the track to follow the car (great work!), the view from up high where you could see most of the track, and the view from the camera mounted on the tripod showing the two jumps along the fences. Looking forward to seeing more cars running on your awesome track!
Thanks so much...and I appreciate knowing what cameras you like (helps us tune for the next one). The Super shot is such a great looking RC (perhaps my favorite Tamiya). Appreciate the view and positive comments.
Awesome. Nice video. Keep them coming
Thanks, we really appreciate it. Hopefully we will have more content coming soon!
Great video! I love the analytics at the end 👍🏻🍻
Thanks so much. We try to get a bit technical while not putting folks asleep. Was a bit worried about the length on this one. Appreciate the view/comment.
Great video and i love the intro and an awesome race.
Thanks friend. Although it slows down production a lot...we like the look of the intro videos. Hopefully we can do more in the future. Cars ran great and were a blast to drive. Just broke some old plastic.
Appreciate it bud!
What a nice track! I have to build one in my yard now! Thank you so much!
Thanks so much! I hope you DO get to build one my friend.
Awesome vid loved the intro could have been straight from Tamiya back in the day.. many thanks
The intro video was the kids idea. I just try and come up with a theme.
The goal was 80s action show blended with a vintage Tamiya showcase video on this one 100% thanks for noticing! Appreciate the view and comment.
Nice comparison, cool cars i really enjoyed it 😊
Thank you! 👍
Awesome, what a nicely presented video great footage, love your content, top stuff.
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Thank you so much! We love doing them! Super appreciate the nice comment.
What a great video... masterfully done. I really dig the vintage feel at the beginning of the video showcasing these buggies. Great camera work and angles... Really capture these RC's in their glory. A well put together video. Great stuff!
Man...thanks so much bud! Super appreciate you guys and the wonderful comment. It's really nice when we have time to do the big videos like that. Learn something new every time.We love RcRetro...you guys rock!
Totally awesome!
Thanks so much!
Great video love the multiple camera angles your daughters doing a fantastic job
Thanks so much! We greatly appreciate it.
I had a Super Sabre in the late 80s, I wore the drive train out and it ended up being RWD. It was noticably faster and more fun to drive RWD due to all friction and understeer with the 4WD system.
That's awesome. Sounds like you got the most out of that car!
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC I think I went through three sets of drive cups and dog bone pins alone. lol. The metal was a bit soft back in those days! Thanks for doing the battles, any new ones on the horizon?
I got hotshot in 1985 . I still think this is the best buggy car for me. Some function make me feel a little bit old,but nothing to do with me at all for me. Thank you for your good video. It was so fun 😊
Im saving up for the hotshot. Cant wait. I dont usually do the box art. But the hotshot looks so good the way it is. Il do the box art. Awesome vid!!
Love the box art look for both to be honest. The red just pops on the hot. The Hotshot is a great kit! Enjoy the build if you pick one up and thanks for the comment friend.
That was super fun to watch and very interesting! Clearly you've put a lot of work into the video and it shows!
Thanks for sharing these classics in action and have a great Sunday my friend!
Thanks bud. We try to do things to the best of our ability and equipment allows. It's been fun to do but unfortunately makes it very slow to put out content (the old cell phones really delay things during the shoot). We really appreciate the nice comment and view brother.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC I always prefer quality over quantity ;-)
Great video! I love all the camera angles!
Thanks bud. What I love most (the post work). Oh and pizza...I love that too.
I wonder how the Hotshot 2 would have fared in this competition or even the Boomerang. Anyway, fun video that was a pleasure to watch. Take care.
Wish I still had my II.
Could run a bigwig...but I don't feel it will be any faster (it's pretty heavy). Thanks for the view and comment. Appreciate it.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC I wish I Had a Boomerang, hopefully they re release something on that chassis.
What an awesome shootout of the HotShot brothers! Both cars ran really well. The Hotshot did seem a little more composed around the track and it shows in the lap times. Love the multiple camera angles and 80s inspired soundtrack. You really captured the action very well. Keep it up！👏👏👏😊
Thanks friend! We really appreciate the kind words and positive vibes! Will keep doing what we do.
I must say: You are an awesome and talented rc driver!
Thanks my friend. Appreciate the positive feedback.
Great comparison with a surprising result. The hotshot was my first RC car in 1986 and absolutely loved it. Must get a re-re to scratch the itch again
Must! Thanks bud...appreciate it.
Super entertaining!
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That rankings list you have is worth its weight in gold. You've done all the hard work for us. Excellent information if you're trying to decide what a fast car would be for vintage race days. I'm shopping for a hotshot right now. Which is what led me to here.. Looks like I'll be at the pointy end of the field with Hotshot. Ive been tossing up between a hotshot and a wild one. Hotshot it is. .
Thanks so much for the nice comment.
The Hotshot is a fantastic car!
Enjoy the build my friend.
Rock on!
G'day mate that was so cool to see them go head to head. My first car was Grasshopper that was awesome for a few years and then I got the Hotshot next mate was 1986 I'd never seen anything like it that Hotshot handled so good. But because I was so young I suffed up building one of the 2 shocks oil leaks so I did get the Hotshot Supershot upgrade suspension kit for it lol thought it made it handle better lol but no steering any more. I recon it might be because no front stabiliser on Supershot. I still have my Hotshot in bits 95% complete and I just got a Superhotshot for my 50 birthday lol and candy green Grasshopper reliving my childhood always wanted a Supershot sine I was a kid. Awesome video mate 👍👍
Man that's an awesome story my friend. What a nice way to celebrate your 50th as well! Best part of doing these videos are the amazing back in the day stories for sure! Appreciate the support and enjoy that build.
I just lusted after my neighbours Super Hornet as a kid soooo badly. I have always wanted a good RC car and yesterday I finished my first ever build of my HotShot 🔥 absolutely love it! Thanks for the great videos!
That's awesome! Super happy for you and appreciate the nice comment. Hotshot is quite the 1st build my friend!
Awesome video, love these comparisons. I have both cars also and the super shot seems a slightly heavier car with 2 extra shocks, undertray and hardware compared to the hotshot. Mine weighs a lot with the RC channel metal arms and it needs a lot more power to get the car up to speed also. Great video can't wait for the next 👌🏻
Have not put both on the scales...but I would agree it's probably heavier. I'm thinking with some different springs it will be a little bit faster. Might need to test that out. Thanks for the view and nice comment.
Awesome video with some serious work. Love these buggies. Result blew me away but you can see the difference on the track. Yes the Supershot out the box would be better but I was pleased with the comparison. Now to repair and back on the shelf 😁
Really can see it bud. The rotation is real! Some softer front or harder rear (or both) on the super and it's game over imo. Who knows though...might need to test this theory. Thanks for the support friend.
Definitely see handling difference with independent shocks!
100%. Was killing me not to "tune" the shocks...lol.
Love it. Been looking forward to this shootout. I love my Hot Shot and am NOT convinced that four-shocks is an “upgrade” ;) The engineering on the mono-shocks is so amazing and one can hardly believe that it actually works pretty well. I learned the off-power (over-steer)/on-power (under-steer) steering characteristics of this car pretty quick. I love how it snaps around corners if you come in fast and let off the throttle at the last second and then lay down the power on the exit. So much fun and super fast if you can get the timing right (which I manage about half the time, haha). Take care!
Exactly how I learned to drive it! Only had like three practice laps before the shoot (did not want to destroy the car) and was shocked with the amount of steering. I had assumed the drag brake was set or something. Just how it drives. Super fun!
The two-shock setup saves the weight of two extra shocks so I agree with you
I think the 2 shocks in rear is a good upgrade, but they need to be set up with stronger dampening/pretension. Definetly sits to low without any spacers.
At the front i like the boomerang suspension more, the 2 ears holding the front shocks are prone to damage.
@@schuttrostig5729 From a performance perspective I would agree that two shocks offers more tune ability. But from a fun I-can’t-believe-it-actually-works perspective, I like the mono shocks. Totally agree about the cantilever design of the front shock pivot ears-what were the engineers thinking?
awesome cars and awesome video as usual 🙂frankly the content of this channel is unbeatable. Very fun 80's style music arrangement (let me guess: a mix of knight rider and airwolf ?)
Keep it up !
Spot on bud! Was a little bit of A-team in my head as well...lol. Super appreciate the positive comment!
Those slow motion shots look so cool.
My favorite parts of the videos as well. Thanks for the view!
Great video!!
Thanks so much!
I had a Hotshot... Bought it new in September 1985! Added the HS2 shocks a year later or so.
The only car that kicked it's ass was the original RC-10! So smooth and quick. Also lighter. If overcame the traction of the 4WD system... Super cool setup, but way too many gears!
Thanks for the blast from the past!
Thanks my friend.
Appreciate the cool story as well.
One of the reasons we do these videos is to try and get folks to re connect with the good old days of RC.
Keep up the good content 👍
Thank you!
Love them. Still got my clodbuster,hornet and Boomerang from the 80's. Use the Hornet a bit as its so strong. Funny everyone's trying to get the perfect mowed grass and your trying to get that perfect smooth dirt yard LOL. Pick the RC'r yard, grass, grass, grass and dirt. bingo
Lol...got to get the track perfect 1st! Appreciate it bud.
Love your Track
Thanks brother. Appreciate it.
I have the hotshot and I find it one of my favourite cars ever to drive. It is an absolute sand drift beast. I’ve spent many a hour four wheel drifting it. It’s also tough which is good because when I built it I could see it would be a maintenance headache . But it’s definitely an all time fave which I run often 😊👍
Love this series of car as well brother. It's too much fun to drive...find myself trying to make it do things I shouldn't...lol.
Also the track looks really good!
Thanks bud!
Great run with both HotShots! I am currently building the 1985 HotShot that the rc elf sent me and i cant wait to take it out for a spin! Seems like the SuperShot just went up on my to get list... Thank you for sharing and have a great upcoming week 🙂👍
Thanks so much friend. Appreciate the kind words. Elf rocks! Enjoy the build bud. Super is such a good looking RC. Should be on the must have list imo.
Rc elf sent me 3 of them :)
@@GreatBirdOfHope Wow...Elf Rocks!
That's epic rc content mate 👏 the number of cameras may be a bit much, but I very appreciate your efforts! I was looking for that exact comparison due to the upcoming blockhead hotshot 2 release 😅
Thanks friend. We sort of lucked into the timing with the new car...lol. Appreciate the kind words.
Once again I love your videos. The Airwolf-style music is awesome.
I really like the Hotshot - it was my dream RC car when I was a nipper and as soon as I got the bug again in middle age I got the re-release. It is such a sturdy platform; my son prefers it to the Grasshopper because he finds it so easy to drive - I think it's the understeery nature. I wish it was a little more loose, it benefits from a bit of torque to release the rear, and mine does not like hairpins...
The one thing I really dig about the SuperShot is the full length bash plate; the hotshot's low ride height gives it s a lot of ground contact.
Generally I find it is tougher than its reputation, but there's a machine screw threaded into that hexagonal nut that acts as a bumper stay, and i've pulled that out twice through various tree interactions (my fault) but i never broke the actual bumper...
Thanks so much for the comment/view and awesome story! Had bumper issues as well (unfortunately broke an ear off). In hindsight I should have ordered a re-re one before I ran it. Chalking it up to old plastic. I adored the HotShot when I was a lad...no way mom and pop could have ever afforded to buy it for me back then. I really love doing the music...and appreciate when people notice for sure! Thanks again my friend.
Your production quality is second to none. So glad to see another video from you. Love the 6 camera work. Post-production must be a bear. what software are you using? It's amazing!
Thanks brother...really appreciate it. The cam work is tough and slightly overwhelming at times...but the kid does a great job "marking" the cams before a run ( a few loud hand claps ) so we can sync them via audio during post. It's tough mixing the different formats and cell camera resolutions for the final render as well. For instance we could only go to 2k this time because of glitching in the final render. In an ideal world we would have a bunch of current go pros...but we simply can't afford that. Using Sony Vegas (I think it's 17) currently. Been amazing learning this stuff on the fly...wish I could do it as my real life job! I enjoy it that much.
I had a Hotshot II. Loved the Supershot but after seeing one built it was HEAVY. That combined with the huge price increase made it a no go for me.
Excellent content. I would love to see the Optima series, 😁, please!!!
If only I had them friend... I unfortunately don't have many old Kyosho cars. Appreciate the kind words and view!
Seriously...awesome video. My head is spinning just the thought of editing that video. I d be interested in the editing process, equipment etc.
Thanks so much brother. It's absolutely the reason it takes us so long to put out running content. It's a ton of work trying to seamlessly string all the cameras together. Labor of love for sure. Currently flopping back and forth between Sony Vegas and Divinchi Resolve. For me the workflow is faster with Vegas but it crashes a lot...and I am constantly going backward during an edit. Divinchi has been rock solid (I just need to learn it). Our greatest challenge is equipment. In a perfect world, I would have all gopros and maybe a nice dslr. We have 2 gopros and 4 old cell phones....lol. Will always make what we have work. I have absolutely enjoyed learning how to do all the editing stuff. Always appreciate when someone wants to know more about the process.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC Unreal.i have some track running footage on my channel but is lack-lustre comparedd to this. I will up my game shortly lol.
Incredible shootout! I've always loved the Hot Shot, and hope someday to get a Re-Re... Don't actually want an original, because I run everything! 😊
The Hot Shot has been surprising me on several Channels, running WITH modern high performance Buggies!!
Your daughter's Camerawork is PRO Level. She's very talented!!
It's actually a really great car. The controll arms are a bit fragile so I would grab a spare set. Also front knuckles crack every once in a while. Otherwise the re-re should go good for you. I might pick one up myself so I have no worries about beating up on a vintage bit. My daughter thanks you for the kind words. I could not do this without her help and support. Thanks so much friend.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC It was my pleasure! IF I can afford a rere Hotshot, I'd also want to get Alumininium Knuckles and controll arms, for that reason.
I have a HOTSHOT and love it, I'm gonna get another one for the display case and I'm waiting on the new Hotshot Blockhead to be released soon, pretty stoked on gettin the Blockhead.
The blockhead cars are so amazing. Love the looks of the blockhead Wild One. Enjoy the build when you get it!
I like the original Fox.....it was a special car to drive....love the track and commentary on the slomo footage
Thanks friend. Love the Fox as well. Was fun to do the shootout video with that car. Appreciate the kind words. Slow-mo is always super fun to do and is a good way to wrap the videos up.
New subscriber here, I want such a backyard too ^^
Thanks for coming along for the ride my friend!
I think the Super Shot would have benefitted from keeping the front sway bar, for cornering. I've usually noticed that they do help, like with my Sand Viper after adding them.
Very surprised the Hotshot looked so much quicker in the video. As you said better turning was obvious. Good work would love to take my Bigwig around and see how bad that is 🤣
At 1st I was not sure I could even make a lap with the Hot. I actually rolled on a little fwd trim so the esc was almost off neutral and it was dialed. Jumped really nice as well. I have a wig but it's a heafty beast (and all new) so I am reluctant to run it. Who knows though...I'm sure I will get bored of looking at that too...haha.
Appreciate the view/comment my friend.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC dont crash the wig into the fence., will probably go through it
I bought aluminum hubs for my super hot shot because I knew it was putting a lot of power through it and I'm still going to put a 3800 in it and the aluminum hubs are hard to find I had to get mine from Korea you wouldn't break a hub again probably I mean at the wheel.
I like Tamiya old buggy
Nice track run
Thanks so much! Can't get enough Tamiya.
I started in the hobby in Christmas '86 with a Boomerang. Still have it (in a cupboard with a LiPo & 10.5 brushless motor in it)
If you have access to them, you need to run the Hotshot, Supershot, Boomerang, Bigwig and Hotshot 2 against each other. They show the evolution of the chassis configuration but utilise the same gearbox arrangement.
I'm sure, as the Boomerang is the best (😉), it will win.
Had all of them at one point...Unfortunately life happened and I had to sell off about half of "the good stuff" years ago.
Boomer is a fantastic car (wish I still had one). Appreciate the great story and view brother.
Ah, so history did repeat itself. When Losi made their 8ight 3.0, their intent was to make the car easier to drive, resulting in more consistent but slightly _slower_ lap times compared to the 8ight 2.0. While it wasn't necessarily a matter of switching from a fancy, overengineered setup to something simpler and more proven in that car's case, it was definitely a repeat of what happened with the Tamiya Hot Shot.
I can see Hot Shots qualifying at higher positions while Super Shots end up placing better in mains.
Anyway, when can we expect an Avante to grace your track? If and when you eventually get to that car you might want to do a shootout between two of them, one with the factory stock setup and one tuned to correct the vehicle's nasty habits, rather than putting it up against another model.
Would agree...and on a imaginary race day situation...I would use the Super.
I don't have an Avante unfortunately. That and a Astute are on my bucket list cars (especially the Astute). Hopefully some day I stumble into one.
Appreciate the support and story brother.
I install a BEC circuit on my Frog to reduce the weight of the car. I vaguely remember buying it from the store. I am guessing it must have been the one used on the Hot Shot. I also remember I needed help from someone at my mother’s work to solder it onto the mechanical speed controller to make it work.
Yes...before they had the little red plug on the speed control. I remember this as well.
Just picked up a re-release supershot yesterday. What timing!
That's awesome! Enjoy the build my friend.
I was so happy to see both of these cars. Both of these vehicles are still boxed up in the closet. The super shot belongs to my eighth year old son and I am the owner of the hot shot. I was only 15 at the hobby shop when that came out my face was pressed against the glass every time that I walked home from school. I still can’t believe both are sitting in a box unbuilt!
Awesome you have them NIB!
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC YES YES! I know right NIB and I am just sitting here. There comes this point in time when you just say "I can't open this now"! I am stuck!
@@UlisesBatalla you should totally build it with your son, or find a new owner who also loves it. Then one day you can look back on the memories instead of a box of bits ... If you haven't built in a while there might be some swearing involved, and at eight years old the driving/crashing 🤕 might be more interesting than the building, but that's what *more* RC cars are for 😁
@@Droidy77 I'm going to leave those two on the back burner. And the reason for that is that at this point in time, I noticed something snapped in my 8-year-old. He caught on to the fact that timaya recycles parts mixes them up and then comes out with another kit. That was like a light went on it's almost as if the wall were pulled from over his eyes it's like an epiphany that one has when you notice that to Maya recycles reuses reimagines parts and then comes up with new vehicles. It's always wonderful when there is a brand new, fully engineered, research and development buggy, car, truck or even a semi. Those two are going to stay on the back burner because at this point in time my black grasshopper too, is waiting for the 8-year-old to finish his Terra Nova Nova Terra Nova Fox.. the other issue is that my 6-year-old daughter cannot settle down and go with the white and pink that she has chosen for her re-released frog. Since I already had a black foot that I modified by changing the chassis adding some upgrades allowing it to perform a lot better it even has the chassis that is colored from a different kit. So what is going to happen is once she settles down and pics good old PS1 and whatever PS color fluorescent pink happens to be we will finish that buggy and all three of us will have are two wheel drive Fox frog and grasshopper. They're going to be identical right down to the vintage Futaba m c 210 speed controllers a Futaba s148 servo and a Futaba receiver that is almost as big as the servo. The gentleman from lightspeed gave me a wonderful price on three hand wound 19 turn double armatures that I stuffed into three of those really really cheap Chinese motors that you see on eBay.. sorry that this was such a long message
Can anybody explain why they called it the Nova Fox and don't tell me just because the word Nova means new I understand that I'm Spanish and I know what the word means but, it really can't just be that!
@@UlisesBatalla the pink Frog or Neo Frog is a classic look! It sounds like you have "more RC cars" taken care of 🚙🏎️. Most people think they changed the name to Nova Fox because they didn't have permission to use Fox any more. Many decals changed from real racing sponsors to fake, made up names, and they had to make up a new buggy name, too.
Excellent video as always but personally I’d liked to have seen the Supershot as it was meant to be rather than downgraded. I’d like to see how much faster it could be with all its upgrades. Interesting outcome on the video though.
Thanks bud...appreciate the kind words.
So the decision was two fold.
A. I wanted to A/B the suspension.
B. I only have one technigold ( not really the correct motor)...and I did not want to burn it up $$...lol.
Shot with more power would most likely be faster.
Nice ! Clearly both seem to miss some dampening in the rear and the super shot could use some spacers in the rear shocks, but if you want to run as in manual then that it is. Though in my manual it clearly suggests to put some spacers in the shocks. Anyway great to see and verry intresting that your hotshot did so well.
Both cars ran great. Rear springs in the super were new from bag and fairly stiff so we went without the preload spacers. All in good fun and was great to air out some vintage Tamiya on a nice summer day. Would love to explore a few shootout videos where we tweak things...but it's hard enough just to get content out for us. Appreciate the view and comment brother.
Would love to see these go against a fire dragon or terra scorcher
That would be epic!
Hey dude, that intro was fantastic, as was the rest of the video! 6 cameras? OMG! It was great to hear your analysis over the slow motion footage. This really is an awesome video, well done! :O)
Thanks so much! Not sure if we will do the full 6 again...but will absolutely be working on new and fun angles on every video.
Appreciate the kind words my friend.
After all these years, the Hotshot still looks so cool and aggressive. Always thought it looked better than the Super Hotshot and the Hotshot II
It's a fantastic looking buggy.
Aggressive and innovative.
I never owned a hotshot or a super shot. But i did own a hotshot 2. The of red hotshot looks iconic and the super shot isn't as nice. My favourite has to be the hotshot 2. But i am considering getting a hotshot.
What all would you do with the shocks on the Super? Replace them, or just swap out some components? I've been looking at getting one myself
The factory cva shocks are actually really good. For my track... the spring balance and stock oil were a bit off. I assume the rere kits still come with the different internal shock pistons. Messing with them will change the pack and rebound internally, and you can also go with a thicker or thinner oil. Lots of information out there on rc shock tuning...and the stock shocks should work well with some tweaks to match your running surface. Hope you enjoy the build my friend. Great kit to pickup.
Great Video! Although not the same one being 2wd and another being 4wd which one will you choose: the Tamiya Wild One or the Tamiya HotShot?
Thanks so much.
I love both tbh.
I guess if you don't have any 4wd yet I would do the Hotshot 1st.
No doubt that the Super Shot was the better car.. but with that weak standard 540 motor the diffence in the suspension does not show.. With a proper modified motor such as the Technigold the better machine was the Super Shot. Also: Damper setup on the Super Shot provides manu more options.
Interesting comparison! If you were to pick one, with some minor to mid upgrades, which would you pick?
The concept of 4 shocks sit better with me. If my objective was to upgrade and make it work better....I would have to go with the Super. For old school cool...the standard.
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC thanks! Super it is!
I wanted the super shot to win cuz I had one of those and I have one today and I'm having some gearbox problems because I put a 4600 Castle system in it and I don't know how it alliterated the gear when it didn't do it the first time I've already had two runs out of it.
I too was surprised at the result. Now the Hot Shot II is out you can run it and compare the time. On another note could the weight difference affected the results?
Think its more in the setup and track condition to be honest. Tons of rotation is absolutely helpful on a tight track.
Wish I had a Shot II to test.
Might be worth a look into conversation parts though. Car spending is on hold for a while...
The nose of the super shot tends less to fly.
No I like the longer video and my first real r/c was a monster beetle
Great car and thanks!
The cornering difference is made by the hotshot having front and rear anti roll bars fitted, Super shot isn't stiff enough changing direction because of it.
Always thought it was a downgrade going to 4 shocks and removing them. Did you weigh the cars? Be interesting to know the difference
I also think the valving and spring rate on the Super is all wrong. One day it will get it's revenge...lol.
Weight is about the same with the extra cantilever bits on the Shot...but no I didn't put them on a scale.
What oil would you recommend for supershot shocks?
Honestly not sure (have not tested). I ran them with the standard Tamiya damper oil ( whatever comes with a Frog rere) in both cars. Built the shocks to 80s stock "kit". Think If I was tuning it...I would look for a bit softer front spring and just tune from there. I ran way more laps with both cars than normally and the Hotshot was faster average lap as well. Same electronics and gearing. I will say if I had to bring one to a vintage race or something....it would be the Super Shot. With some tuning or simply adding more power....its gonna be faster no doubt.
Wasn't the supershot motor the technituned/technipower as opposed to the technigold?
Yes (put a little drop in message in the video ).
@@VINTAGEBACKYARDRC lol just seen it thanks
Technipower
do the re re's have better plastic?
@newsmansuper2925 I am honestly not sure. Don't have any as of yet.
Maybe one of my friends can chime in.