The best video of a 180 on UA-cam by far, great work! It's a shame that these have always been plagued with reliability issues, and bought in small numbers as, to me, they're far superior to any of the Voyager/Meridians.
I have heard so many people say bad things about 180s been on them quite a few times with grand Central and never see a problem and I am so glad that I'm not the only one who thinks these are fantastic
@Jordan Jones How so? The 180s have more power and a higher top speed; they may be from the same manufacturer and share some similarities but that's far from the same thing.
One thing I miss about the related 175s is that wine sound and exhaust rumble these Coradias always make when the engines are idling, the 180s also sound very similar at lower rpms to the 175s as well.
Great video. ☺️ This train sounds like it uses the same engine as the Class 172's but with a 3-Speed Voith gearbox instead of a 6-Speed ZF gearbox. This train would have sounded way better with the ZF gearbox.
This engine is abit stronger QSK19 at 750HP ;) The QSK19 engine is no engine for many gearchanges (it's designed to run at a constant RPM (or slow revving)
@@superbladeash If i remember correctly those are MTU 12V1600s 3 of them per 5 cars and 5 engines per 9 cars. (21L 750hp) The 180s have multiple QSK19s
@@UndergroundEric Well that's true that's basicly with all QSK19 fitted DMU's... The DB has alot of issues with the Cooling of the 612s (QSK19 engines) too resulting in many emergency idle moments and lots of coolant being used... Same goes for the Stadler Flirt Bi-Mode with them Deutz V8 diesels.... DB always tells the drivers to notch it up gently and to use the HD brake where the engine gets revved up and the coolingfan can blow away all the heat.... Usually about 4km of HD Braking to let these engines cool down after being worked to the max :) These Cl.180s they really are pushed beyond what they can withstand... Tooo long in that First Gear at 1900-2100rpm results in the biggest strain of this engine.
A few things I would like to say: 1 - 3:47 was when Gear 2 upped to Gear 3, not 3:45. 2 - The Class 180 sounds like the Class 195/172, probably because said train uses the same engine but with a three speed gearbox instead of a six speed one. I feel like this train deserved at least a five speed, so one gear change at 25mph, another at 50mph, then the third at 75mph, the fourth at 100mph and you can guess the last one. This will reduce the fires by approximately 0.3%, meaning more of these can actually survive. 3 - Considering the fact like one/two of these have their buffet carriages out due to severe corrosion tells me Alstom have all sorts of shit on their backs, for this train in particular, poor build quality. I was only just born (September 2012) just after they called off their court case with Eurostar and Siemens as they were so angry that the latter picked Siemens to build the Eurostar E320. (Tells me Eurostar will be avoiding the French after what they did.) 4 - Amazing video! ❤❤
The Class 180 Adelante are very powerful trains with a nice engine and good acceleration. Maybe you could do Class 175, Class 220, Class 221, Class 222 and Class 185.
You'll be going nowhere 😂😂😂 Got to admit, these Adelantes seem to be so much better than the horrible Class 220/221 Voyagers. A train I must ride when it's safe to travel for leisure again
@@RegiRaidillonVT Found a video of a 185 shifting through full range and there are three. I guess you just can't get enough speed up on the line between Manchester and Huddersfield or Bolton.
@@darylyatestransportblogs I have only ever done 30 or 35 on a 180 from Salford Crescent to Manchester Victoria so I have never experienced a shift on a 180. I have had 185s between Manchester Victoria and Bolton as well as Huddersfield and that is why I only counted two in person, I don't think I reached as fast as I originally thought on that section though. I have had 185s between Bolton and Blackpool but that was a long time ago.
The best video of a 180 on UA-cam by far, great work! It's a shame that these have always been plagued with reliability issues, and bought in small numbers as, to me, they're far superior to any of the Voyager/Meridians.
I have heard so many people say bad things about 180s been on them quite a few times with grand Central and never see a problem and I am so glad that I'm not the only one who thinks these are fantastic
@Jordan Jones How so? The 180s have more power and a higher top speed; they may be from the same manufacturer and share some similarities but that's far from the same thing.
Never been on a 180 I don’t think but Voyager/Meridian sounds better imo.
@@FlyingPhysicist meridians are WAY quieter than this at any speed
@@microlach6632 thanks for that unsolicited comment...
Excellent Video !!!!
What beasts these are very looong ratios and very powerfull (when all engines work)
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Make a lovely alarm clock sound 😆
Only travelled in these once. That was in early 2000s between Cardiff Central and Paddington, quite enjoyed it.
One thing I miss about the related 175s is that wine sound and exhaust rumble these Coradias always make when the engines are idling, the 180s also sound very similar at lower rpms to the 175s as well.
Great video. ☺️ This train sounds like it uses the same engine as the Class 172's but with a 3-Speed Voith gearbox instead of a 6-Speed ZF gearbox. This train would have sounded way better with the ZF gearbox.
This engine is abit stronger QSK19 at 750HP ;)
The QSK19 engine is no engine for many gearchanges (it's designed to run at a constant RPM (or slow revving)
@@AllianceB95 isn’t this the same engine used on Hitachi Fleet? Sure I saw it’s on the 802s
@@superbladeash If i remember correctly those are MTU 12V1600s 3 of them per 5 cars and 5 engines per 9 cars. (21L 750hp)
The 180s have multiple QSK19s
@@AllianceB95 one per car on a 180, 19L 750hp ticking time bomb 😂 to be fair its the cooler group that is their main weakness
@@UndergroundEric Well that's true that's basicly with all QSK19 fitted DMU's... The DB has alot of issues with the Cooling of the 612s (QSK19 engines) too resulting in many emergency idle moments and lots of coolant being used... Same goes for the Stadler Flirt Bi-Mode with them Deutz V8 diesels.... DB always tells the drivers to notch it up gently and to use the HD brake where the engine gets revved up and the coolingfan can blow away all the heat.... Usually about 4km of HD Braking to let these engines cool down after being worked to the max :)
These Cl.180s they really are pushed beyond what they can withstand... Tooo long in that First Gear at 1900-2100rpm results in the biggest strain of this engine.
Nice video I might ride these after lockdown
Beast
Sounds like the lovely german BR612 👍
cummins QSK19 ，the same engine
A few things I would like to say:
1 - 3:47 was when Gear 2 upped to Gear 3, not 3:45.
2 - The Class 180 sounds like the Class 195/172, probably because said train uses the same engine but with a three speed gearbox instead of a six speed one. I feel like this train deserved at least a five speed, so one gear change at 25mph, another at 50mph, then the third at 75mph, the fourth at 100mph and you can guess the last one. This will reduce the fires by approximately 0.3%, meaning more of these can actually survive.
3 - Considering the fact like one/two of these have their buffet carriages out due to severe corrosion tells me Alstom have all sorts of shit on their backs, for this train in particular, poor build quality. I was only just born (September 2012) just after they called off their court case with Eurostar and Siemens as they were so angry that the latter picked Siemens to build the Eurostar E320. (Tells me Eurostar will be avoiding the French after what they did.)
4 - Amazing video! ❤❤
YOULL BE GOING NOWHERE
App used for those who are wondering: Digihud speedometer
1:43 Long gear change there!
3:47 Very quick one!
The Class 180 Adelante are very powerful trains with a nice engine and good acceleration. Maybe you could do Class 175, Class 220, Class 221, Class 222 and Class 185.
He's done a class 185:
ua-cam.com/video/HsE7AgasLGs/v-deo.html
You'll be going nowhere 😂😂😂
Got to admit, these Adelantes seem to be so much better than the horrible Class 220/221 Voyagers. A train I must ride when it's safe to travel for leisure again
Voyagers are not horrible, they’re legendary.
@@louiejonesponation The only good thing about them is that the seats are comfortable. Other than that, far prefer something like a Hitachi 800/802
@louiejonesponation The 220/221 are a bit "meh", but the 222s make up for that
I Like The 220’s. A Shame Only CrossCountry Operate Them
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Nice vid! What app did you use to measure the speed?
GPS speed app is ok
Nice video though I do find 180s are slower to accelerate than class 222s.
"You'll be going nowhere."
I always thought the T312 was two speed, I have only ever counted two on the 185s anyway.
Make it 3 and you're good
@@RegiRaidillonVT Found a video of a 185 shifting through full range and there are three. I guess you just can't get enough speed up on the line between Manchester and Huddersfield or Bolton.
@@FM60260 gearbox is the same on a 185 it’s just the gearing is shorter since the 185s only do 100mph
@@darylyatestransportblogs I have only ever done 30 or 35 on a 180 from Salford Crescent to Manchester Victoria so I have never experienced a shift on a 180. I have had 185s between Manchester Victoria and Bolton as well as Huddersfield and that is why I only counted two in person, I don't think I reached as fast as I originally thought on that section though. I have had 185s between Bolton and Blackpool but that was a long time ago.
15:30 What did I tell you?! 88 miles per hour
Sounds like a KTA 19
What's the App on your phone called that shows the current speed?
The 2nd DMU Intercity train built for the UK and it's massively better than the Voyagers.
Wish they built more tbh. Much better than the voyagers.
@@ajf3202 Certainly better than the voyagers but diesel hydraulics are a rarity in the UK.
Voyagers don’t catch on fire, and you’ll be going somewhere if you ride em.
@@louiejonesponation Could have easily been fixed if they put some money to them.
Sounds like class 195 from the beginning
2000 RPM before shifting to 2nd gear
why it's sounds like mtu?
Hydraulic transmission
I prefer HSTs
i took a class 180 once but i don't remember liking anything about it
You'll be going somewhere now
Bruh. Is going NOWHERE
You'll be going nowhere...