My first ride on the
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- Опубліковано 21 тра 2024
- Join me as i take my new MT450 for its first real ride, this video is just my thoughts and not intended as a review. i will be making more vids on any mods i do and will show my adventure trips to you. If this is of interest to you Please Subscribe for more, cheers.
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Well done Bazz. Crisp clear commentary .Bike sounds good and quiet. No changes eh.,!
Love it. Never had a new bike as well but man this one is really tempting!
Can't wait till you take it to the hard stuff!!!!!
I know Andi i got pretty excited about this one and you know i have had a lot of bikes, it would suit you i can flat foot it. I would feel more comfortable once it has crash bars as there is a lot of plastic to break.
Congratulations Bazz! 👏 That's a very interesting adventure motorcycle. Enjoy the newbie. I look forward to your future experiences with it. I like the colour scheme of yours, and that motor sounded like it's ready to go onwards from 4K rpm. Well done! 👍😁
Thanks Bob, once the revs get up around 5000 it takes off best.cant wait to do a camp trip on it.
Cool vid Bazz. Bike looks very handy, hope it brings you plenty of memorable trips mate ✊️🤙
Thanks Jase, I'm really liking the lite nimble feel of the bike.
Top job Bazz, really enjoyed your ride through the forests. This bike is going to make a lot of people happy in a way that doesn’t scare new and older riders alike. Like you I’m in the latter category, same weight, height and after 40 years of superbikes I want to slow it down a bit and just have fun on a much lighter bike that I can use all the performance without ending up in the bush or worse! Looking forward to your full bush ride.
Thanks mate, that's my thoughts on riding these days . I have lost count of the bikes I had. It is important to be able to pick a bike up when out on your own.
Great job on the video.
Bike looks and sounds great!
Thanks Ian, it does sound like a bigger bike.
Thanks for this review - we have two on the way, can't wait to ride em!
That's awsome mate , what color did you buy
@@bazz6670 two Gray ones, gonna strip the stickers and put some personalized stickies on em :)
Great review of your new MT, congratulations Bazz!
Certainly given me the new bike vibes, priced well enough to purchase as a second bike for off road exploring.
@peterc2876 Thanks mate, I'm loving the bike for me it does everything I could want in a bike. Done over 2000 ks now .
Looks great Barry! I can’t wait to see you testing it out on the trails!!!
Thanks Patric , I know I'm going to enjoy this bike. Are they appearing over your way.
@@bazz6670 I have not seen them here yet, but that could just be me not noticing??
Congrats Bazz on the new Bike, Great stuff and looking forward to more vids. 16K views in 6 days awesome. I can't wait to throw a leg over one of these bad boys myself.
Thanks, Pete, these bikes are getting interest like crazy and I can't believe the views I have had. You've got to try one I'm sure you will be impressed.
Nice video. Thinking about one of these myself. Keep us updated on reliability and servicing cheers.
I will for sure, I'm pretty excited about this one 😄
Picking mine up this Saturday. It was ready on Monday but I couldn't get there.
Can't wait!
That would have been torture having to wait. I really thought I would be waiting ages to get one but someone else decided to wait for second shipment so I got it.
@@bazz6670 I just concentrated on work and my week just flew by. Come Friday night I was getting pretty excited. When I started riding it the left mirror tilted, the gear lever was tilted too high, gear shifter too high, that snatchy throttle in slow traffic and coming back on out of round abouts. Sorted the ergonomics to suit me when I got home
I have most of the accessories ordered and now looking to add the taller screen. The current one is too low at both settings for me. I may need to move the handle bar mount forward more to be comfortable standing up.
Seat is too low for me and have the higher seat coming.
But I did find the bike feels light when riding, or lighter than I expected. I like the sound of the muffler but find it almost being too loud when idling, especially at 5am while warming up before my first proper ride.
One thing I have found searching through the menus is that the trip metre, whether 1 or 2, can only be reset in the menu. No straight up button to reset this. I'm still trying to work out what is the most useful to be displayed on the screen. Pity i can't choose a few on them. I never had those options before on bikes and now that I do I what to see them!
Those are some nice roads you got, much envy! Cheerios from Singapore!
You have some pretty nice places, too . I see the bike is pretty popular over your way.
Did what you did. Looked at this package, put my 500 down and will pick it up this weekend!! Can't wait!
Bloody awesome mate , I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Where are you buying yours from.
Motoink, here in Melbourne!
Awesome stuff Barry! Congrats on the new bike!!! Stay upright mate 🙂
Thanks mate you will see it on Sunday
Looking forward to it mate! :-)
Awesome talk through, I may buy one 😀
Thank you, this bike is going to be pretty popular.
Cant wait for mine to show up. Have to wait till Sept for here in the USA.
Cool review cant wait to see how it holds up once you start hitting the trails, congratulations on the new beast 😎👌
Thanks mate , she is doing pretty good off road, will have a vid up soon of my angelsea ride then one I done with Ian out lal lal way.cheers
@@bazz6670 sounds good 👍
Thanks for this review 🙂
Cheers mate I will do my best to keep them coming
Cool video Bazz. I can't wait to get mine in a few days
Fantastic, so many excited people out there getting new bikes. 😉
In a bike shop talking bikes the other day and they suggeseted this, I kind of dismissed it due mostly to my ignorance. But watching your videos and the list of well priced accessories it looks great.
Yes for sure, I have crash bars ordered upper and lower comes in just under$200
Nice bike, if I didn't have the Mt800 would be my pick.👌👌
I was almost going to buy an 800 a while back. I really feel more comfortable on the lighter bikes but the 800 has some good stuff on it
Hey mate, glad to see another Victorian on UA-cam. I’ve noticed with these 450MT’s I have not seen many videos that explain the TFT display and its features. I think people would appreciate that
you are absolutely rite and i am planning on it, i better get out and learn it myself first. what part of vic are you.
@@bazz6670Ballarat
Wow 9.5 grand. 6.5 here in the states. Have put the same exact $1000 down for mine that I had originally put down to be the first to own the KTM490....then of coarse KTM made the humongous mistake and cancelled it. This is a good alternative. Hope to see the more powerful 500cc engine that CF Moto is currently working on go into a MT500. Love the sound that bike makes too. Thanks for the video mate.
6500 usd is about 9800aud. So almost exactly the same price, which is actually rare.
@@daveparko very hard to beat this price for what you get. Im lucky to have 3 CF Moto dealers within 1 hour. 2 within 30 minutes. So i already have dealer support which is also rare for the USA. Great bike
It is amazing value and accessories are cheap
Thanks for the review Bazz. Nice video. Is it possible to do another short one with a pillion? I'm very curious about the pillion seat comfort, & how it handles on dirt roads with a pillion. Thanks 😎
Sorry mate, I probably won't manage that no one has faith in me.
Great vid , I think i saw you trailing it home on Tuesday , looking for something lighter and and less power as I’ve got older putting my order in at motorcycle land on Monday .
lol i got spotted by several people in Ballarat, this is why i bought it as i don't need all that power . it is still good to have some but. i think this bike has enough to keep me happy. did thet tell you when next order is coming in at motorcyle land.
About late June or early July, that will suit me want to add crash bars before taking it off road.
Great vid Barry. Should have been a motorcycle journo. Shes got a lovely sound on the camera. Is it as smooth as the T7?
Maybe not quite as smooth, T7 is smoother from low. Thanks for the great comment I do struggle with what to say sometimes.
Awesome first impressions review mate, if I didn't have the T7 I'd seriously look into this model... so what of the other 2 bikes now in the stable?
Thanks for checking out the video, I do have the tiger on the market. It is a great bike I just don't ride it much as I like playing in the dirt. Plus to many registered.
nice bike mate!
Thanks mate, she's a bit flash up against the old dr650
It sounds really sweet
It does and I don't think I'll worry about changing the exhaust. Thanks for watching.
Onya Baz up it champion 🏆
Thanks mate 👍
Just starting to follow your channel and really liking the content
I know you haven’t had it long but first impressions how does it compare to your DR 650?
HP,Torque & weight etc
I have a DR650 and thinking of selling it it to buy a 450 MT
Just waiting for a few more real world reviews
Thank you heaps for your support. I think the dr probably has more of that low down torque . I need to get out on some hills to really try the mt but it should do pretty good. I feel it is better balance or should I say nimble over my dr with the big tank. Definitely better suspension on mt. Dr is really rough ride and also I can touch the ground on mt . The tyres it comes with are not real off roaders so will change them later.
Thanks for the video :-)
Tyres are from CST, Chinese company that's been around for a very long time now.
Thank you for that information, they are quite nice on the road.
Nice job man
Thanks! Mate
Nice video thanks for sharing! I am between this bike and the Honda nx500. Not sure if I should bump up to a KTM 790 adventure yet. But the difference in price is big!
i did want the 790 for a while there, it is nice but like you said the price and also maybe not all but there is the cam failure going on. The nx is still 19 inch front wheel and suspension would need upgrade for off road.
You should consider the Transalp.
@@ionescugeorge2003 a bit too heavy and too tall for me
@@cgeo3380 450MT is no dual sport either at 195kg wet, Transalp is 208kg wet and it isn't top heavy. KTM 790 Adv sits at 850mm and weighs 223kg with a full tank according to KTM. The low seat option on Transalp is at 820mm wich sould be low enough for most of the shorter riders. So i'd consider the Transalp a lighter alternative to 790 Adv. How tall are you and how much do you weigh?
@@ionescugeorge2003 have you actually ridden all these bikes? Theres a big difference from weight on a spec sheet and weight on the bike. 790 have a very low centre mass because the fuel tanks sit low on each side of the bike. Suggest you go test ride all three and then decide which feels lighter
The team at Ballarat are great, I got my swm 500 off them almost bought the 800MT. If I new this was coming I would have held off on my Tenere
It's definitely a popular bike. Yes great team they have there.
Was the bash plate standard and included in the price? I've only seen side on pix of the bike but the angle you showed at the end with you standing over it showed the bike to have some nice lines. Look forward to more content on it.
Yes standard bash plate, it is very thin . Not a problem unless you are going to do really hard off roading
Did you consider the 2024 Hymalayan 450? What made you go for the CFMoto instead of the Royal Enfield?
Thank you for the question, I do like the himalayan, but when you look at what you get on the mt it is better value but that's just my opinion. I also have been waiting for a twin for the smoothness and it does sound pretty good.
Very jealous, We never got the good stuff in the US 😢 we’ll eventually get the 450 MT someday 😂
That's sad mate, hopefully soon you will get them. Thanks for commenting 🙂
Congrats on the new bike!, none here in Arizona to look at yet.. would you say it feel's like a big dual sport or a small street bike...or is it really it's own thing..decent blend of both? I ride a Vstrom 650 and anything less than a decent forest road is asking a lot...
Thank you, it feels like a bigger bike but also feels light and nimble. I, too, had a vstrom 650 and they really feel heavy compared to the mt. Mt feels way more fun to ride. Hopefully, you get them in Arizona and you can check one out.
@@bazz6670 Thanks for getting back to me, enjoy the new bike!
Similar power , weight & torque figures to a klr650s but it seems to handle highway speeds alot smoother with that twin. Yeah . I can see this becoming a popular mini adventure bike.
Good vid mate, I just got the CLC 450 cruiser and it’s sits on 5000 at 100ks which surprised me but engine seems to like revving anyway. The revs on yours surprised me, definitely agree at lower revs they are a bit touchy. Just gotta get used to dropping a gear around town and let it revs I guess 😂
Seems they are geared more for off-road, they did say the tuning is set for more mid range power to suit adventure. Could always look at a 15 front sprocket to drop the revs.
@@bazz6670 yeah mines belt drive so might have to wait for aftermarket parts, I’ve already clocked up 700k and I think the fuel economy is getting better with the high revs. They sound sweet that’s for sure mate love the 270 degree crank motors, CF Moto are definitely heading in the right direction.
My 450nk is quite twitchy in 1st gear low revs and doesn’t really seem to like being lugged down at all in any gear. Definitely likes to be above 4k for the sweet spot in power and smoothness. I hope the mt has a different fuel map that makes slower riding better and not require aggressive trail riding without doing a ton of clutch work.
Otherwise I love the 450 motor and have thoroughly enjoyed mine so far. I’ve put over 3k miles on it with zero issues. I’m about due for tires already though. Lol. Cheers from Michigan, USA. ✌️
@@michiganmoto7687 I wonder if better spark plugs might help a bit down lower revs, I haven’t had a look at what brand they use. It could be giving an erratic spark possibly.
@seanmack4552 it does kind of sound like it's not firing properly down low.
Nice bike .. nice review bro 😎
Maybe my next bike …
What top speed this bike ????
Tanks 🤙🏽
As my bike is new i have only taken it to 130 kmh. that's all i need.
The bike sounds a lot bigger than 450. I loved the sound when I tested it.
Yes it does sound great , I don't think I would bother changing it. The bike feel like a smaller more nimble tenere
Jaki wzrost kierownika ? mam 182cm, nie ma jeszcze w Europie, ale planuję zakup.
If you want to go off road I'd put crash bars over that fairing as I've heard if you drop it that it can break. I'd be interested to know your MPG as I've heard the economy isn't that great-hence the big fuel tank. Otherwise a good bike but I wouldn't take on on any tight technical stuff as it's probably too big & heavy. It gives you the option if you're touring & see an off road section to a bay (not a track but road), that you can take it. I saw a guy get stuck down a track & he said he could see it was getting very slippery. He had enormous trouble trying to turn the bike around due to the size of the bike & also he couldn't get traction.
Great video mate. Had a look at one yesterday....my only concern is build quality for remote outback stuff. I know it's built to a price and I fully appreciate that but is there anything that you can see that might fail in long term use? The bottom rear shock linkage looks thin to me.....
It's either this or a 2nd hand KTM for me.
I know what your saying like I would trust my dr650 to go anywhere, but time will tell. Haven't had time to do much with it yet. I know the bottom of shock is like the dr. It also has the extra mounting hole to lower it like the dr , that's how you lowerthe seat hight. I know there is a couple of guys set their bikes up for a cage York trip so they must have faith in them.
Obviously it's too early to tell on this particular bike, but CFmoto bikes are generally known to be pretty reliable.
@@alrhodes5011are they?! They used to have a terrible reputation for electrical issues
@@slakk5093prior to 2016, after they are fine
Also noticed you have a DR650! How do you find the two? Would this replace your DR? I currently have a DR and thinking of getting the 450MT to replace it
I am also interesed in comparing these 2. In my country the demand for the 450mt is so big that I will not be able to get my hands on one for 2 more months at least. On the other hand I have an offer for a very nice and already upgraded dr650. I am really torn between these 2 choices. Would love to hear your opinion..
@@lukamarkovic1706 If you'll be doing more road kilometres, I would assume the CF Moto would be better suited. I really like the heart of dirt stuff so the Dr is good for that but I don't really like it on the road
i'm hoping the MT will replace the DR but with everyone buying these bikes i dont think it will sell fast. Mt is so much nicer to ride and the dr is good as a tractor through the bush the MT wins on road and motor is so smooth and i like that on longer trips.
I think you should wait for the Mt, It is so much more comfortable.
I have done some big days on the dr and it can ware you out. Looking forward to trying the MT on biggers rides now.
Nice review. Looks great style. Put some Honda stickers on it and no-one would know it was Chinese at all.
LOL, I always joked. I'll wrap it in orange and people would think it's a ktm
@@bazz6670put some Yamaha T7 stickers on 😂😂😂,
Nice update for those of use who are still waiting for theirs. How did you find the airflow from the front of the bike at higher speeds? Any buffeting or turbulence for you? How did you find seat comfort?
Seat is pretty good , I probably would like to get the rally seat one day as I like them a bit flatter to move around on. As far as the screen goes at 130 I didn't notice buffeting but can still feel the wind. There is a bigger screen you can get too.
Good fun eh. On my one I backed off both compression and rebound 3 clicks and wound on a bit of spring 2 rings on the forks and 5mm more on the preload on the back spring and wound off the rear rebound 3 clicks. My weight is 93kg. Works well in the bush n on forest roads. Gearing is too short I've ordered a 15tooth front sprocket to see how that goes n maybe 2 teeth off the rear later.
Yep the forks are pretty hard which is good because most bikes are to soft, I did soften the forks today and it was much nicer. I don't think I need to touch rear spring for my weight. Let me know how the front sprocket goes .
hmm seems like a good bargaining point when considering this or the re 450 tubeless rims are a big factor the re be 1000more for same
The MT has way more features the re is a great bike too but less refined, look at the shockers and the screen interface and the twin is smooth
very nice
Thank you , it's pretty flash for me.
@@bazz6670 Bazz nice simple honest video. The bike suits old and young riders, it's good for me being older and carrying a few injuries so I can't wait to get mine next week. My brother got his already and like you he loves it. All the best mate.
I am thinking of buying one of these as well. It hasn't launched in my country yet. The only red flag I've noticed about this bike is people claiming that it has a mileage of around 20-22 km/L. How much mileage did you get?
i wouldn't worry so much about the fuel economy. it is no worse than my other bikes . so far it says 5ltr to 100 but it is still running in. i think it will get better . a lot of these people saying it is bad could be riding them hard off road maybe.The fun you will have out ways the fuel cost which you are talking a couple of dollars.
@@bazz6670 I recently got myself a 2024 KTM Duke 390. I measured the mileage when it was brand new. I calculated the mileage to be 20 km/L. Now after first service (which is after 1000km) i calculated the mileage again and it turned out to be 25 km/L. So i am hoping the mileage would increase on 450 MT as well when the the engine becomes smooth after running for a while and after the oil gets changed.
@@mohitraj5615 I'm thinking the mt will loosen up like you said, I notice it goes better the more I ride it.
If the suspension is a bit stiff then adjust it. One of the great advantages of this bike is the option to adjust front and rear.
I have see one of your countrymen doing it in Palawan PH. He said after taht the bike was perfect.
A question: Hows the driving on road over 110 km? As I have heard a little unstable. You ahve got the low front fender that likely may alleviate any annoying issues.
Thanks for commenting, I have softened front and rear 2 clicks may need a little more but it's comfortable. I have done up to 130 kmh and bike is very stable. I have ridden my dr650 at 150 and that is a bit sketchy. this bike is fantastic to ride.
@@bazz6670 Thanks for the response. I was waiting for real reviews from owners, as I wasnt sure the ones coming from those youtubers in The PH would be trustworthy . Yeah I thought for your size may need 2 or 3 clicks on the front.
Cheers and enjoy this beauty.
Its direct competition to CB500X, smaller Tracer 700 with slightly more offroad capability. I wished it to be more offroad focused than that :/ Still nice bike and crossplane engine is very good idea.
I do like the cb it is a nice bike and really good fuel economy. You would need to spend a lot on it with suspension etc and it's still 19 inch front wheel. The mt is the first bike I hear people say the forks are to hard . Most bikes are stolen soft. It will be better with decent tires.
100 km/h on 6k RPM is nut, and it only shows 8k RPM in total, this is more 70% offroad 30% tarmac kind of bike, it does look handsome not gonna lie. if I bought one of these i might have to bring down the final drive ratio for fuel consumption sake
yes i think it is geared more for off road, you can change the gearing in which i will give a 15 front sprocket a try once i've ridden it a bit. most of my bikes are around the 5 mark. even though it sounds high you don't feel it is screaming.
Have you ridden a Tenre 700? seems like the bike most compare it too
Yes i have had a small ride on one and it too was pretty nice. They are a lot taller and therefore the weight is higher.
How is the perceived weight on this compared to the DR650? More or less top heavy feeling?
I think my dr is more top heavy when you lean it over but I do have a 30 ltr tank. Mt being 17 is a lot lighter. The mt feels a lot more stable too and way nicer to ride on the hwy. Hope that helps
Inside button turns off TC & rear ABS. Long press
LOL I realised later even though I tried it at home. My brain was overloaded trying to make the video.
Has your tiger got a 19 or 21 front?
They have a 19
Hmm, 6,000rpm at 100km/h is a bit buzzy for me. A lot of highway cruising would mean a bit higher fuel figures. Sounds like the gearbox ratios are tuned more for off-road and slower riding
Easy fix with a larger front sprocket
My friend just done 400ks on a tank, it doesn't buzz at 100 it is so smooth a motor you wouldn't know.
@@bazz6670 nice. Will test ride one myself
Needs a smaller sproket
@@rubenpereira132 I will be trying a 15 tooth front sprocket soon.
The thing that really interests me about these bikes is if you watch this video with your view straight ahead off road-how much can you see of obstructions before you hit them. What I mean isif you look at paused view straight ahead off road you have display in your line of vision & you also have your screen also in your line of vision. I don't think you actually lowered the screen for off road. At 11:41 on your video you look at the freeze frame! Your vision ahead is very badly obscured. If their was rock or gouged out trench up ahead I very much doubt whether you would see it. I only comment on this as Itchy boots is in hospital from a very bad accident on her crf300 rally & her bike is the same where her vision is partly obsured by instruments/ screen & GPS. I jsut wonder how safe that is for off road riding. I'd be interested to see the difference if you screen was fully down! I'm not being critical of the bike, it's just an observation & i think Itchy boots crash drew my attention to what might have happened. What are your thoughts?
Hey Bazz did you get rid of the triumph
Not yet Darren but I do have it on the market. Just can't keep them all.
Noooooo what are you thinking Bazz
Ok, but how does it wheelie?
LOL I'm totally hopeless at wheelies on any bike.
good onya!
Cheers mate.
Nothing special. Heavy. It has 450cc and... 192kg wet.
High fuel consumption.
U'll have to shitf gears all the time because of weak engine.
It should have at least 500cc.
I know what your saying when you read it on paper and I had the same opinion, but once I rode it mate it is a fun bike and it has plenty of power. Not t7 power but it is nice. Fuel economy is not bad depends on how you ride it.
Very nice bike. But chineese...
Well, ktm are mostly owned by China,
@@bazz6670 yes. But it is all down to price v quality and dealer network parts availybility warranty issues and so on.
The old proverb is you get what you pay for.
But again I think the bike is the bees knees anyway. Sort of like my kawi versys x300