52 disruptor banks and 27 torpedo launchers. To put that in prespective, that one ship almost has the same firepower as the entire fleet at Wolf 359. That not a "predator" , thats an extinction event with engines.
To be fair, that was what? 13 years ago? Also, the types of ships the Federation used against the Borg in Wolf 359 were not top of the line/modern ships (for that time period). After Wolf 359, discovering the Dominion, the Klingon's going rogue, the Borg attacking Earth AGAIN, and the Dominion war, Star Fleet has finally begun to produce some ships with series muscle. Ships like the Defiant, Akira, Prometheus and of course the Sovereign. With these ships, the Federation is in a far better position to defend itself. This is not meant to downplay the Scimitar though...that thing is a fracking beast!
I really love the shocked expression that Frakes had on his face when they were reading out the weapons and systems complement of the Scimitar. It was like Starfleet getting the first good look at what an actual, honest-to-god capital warship looked like and it *_scared_* them. It would be like... I don't know... going to the Bolivian Navy and if they somehow never heard of a battleship and getting a sight of the USS New Jersey pulling up alongside them.
@@ianhirst1148 The Jem'Hadar Battleships were strong but still in the same weight class as the Galaxy (ENT-D), and Soviergn (ENT-E), the Scimitar is a super dreadnought that has more in common with a Borg Tactical Cube than the Enterprise. This ship would have been hideously expensive to produce, which is why the Federation or the Dominion never built something that big.
I was thinking this. Worf could've stayed aboard in command. Like, who did get left in command? Geordi was in engineering, . . . Who else has got "Looking into the Eyes of the War Machine, . . . And thinking WE were Badass in this Sovereign Class Strike Cruiser" level command experience?
@@Asghaad The Enterprise had Picard's decades of tactical experience and a seasoned crew of veterans of countless conflicts who worked together as a cohesive unit. The Scimitar had a dying clone of Picard with none of his training or experience and was crewed by a bunch of Remans who up until a short time ago were all slave miners. Still the Scimitar could have had victory if it had commited to the Enterprises destruction from the get go but it was held back by Shinzon's hubris.
They left Worf. If they died, he would have avenged them or died trying (probably the latter). But, indeed this makes no sense. Riker had no business being there, neither did Data.
*Picard, Riker, Data, Worf and Troi beam aboard the Scimitar* *Reman security guards with disruptor rifles surround them* Shinzon: Hahaha!!!!! You Starfleet types are so easy to outsmart!!!!!! Now your puny ship stands even less of a chance against us!!!!!!
I don't remember what movie it was but I was watching a clip from something earlier and someone else had the exact same opinion about him in that one too lol
''So like this younger captain Picard should look just like him, bald like he is herp a derp'' But sir! in the show his young version had hair which is natural since he was younger.. ''nah audiences is stupid should make him bald too so they know for sure it's his younger version herp a derp.''
Scimitar was the Trek equivalent of the Bismark: a warship so colossally powerful that its mere existence was a threat that simply could not be ignored. Even without taking into account the Thalaron weapon, Scimitar was easily the most powerful starship in the entire quadrant. Imagine how much damage Shinzon could have done to Starfleet if he'd managed to survive and get past Enterprise at the Bassen Rift.
Well, the Bismarck was built as an attempted counter to the French Richelieu-class crusiers(which were larger, faster, had more armor, and bigger guns than the Bismarck), and it only lasted 8 months before being crippled by biplanes and sunk by a few destroyers. So, yes, the Scimiatar is very similar to the Bismarck in that is a very powerful, expensive warship that was sunk before it had any significant effect on the war.
@@chrisvickers1357yeh the bismark tht symbol of Nazi pride beside the Hindenburg thst lol ther most strobgratcwarahil they had into. Ther Novak fleets
This ship though doesn't look Romulan. It seems to lack the cultural and mythical elements that Warbirds and other previous Romulan vessels had. This ship looks messy and badly designed. Perhaps that was its intent? If you pile a whole lot of stuff on top of each other, it looks like a cluster of delicate sticks loosely joined together. But more doesn't equal better - a lot of Star Trek screen time on starships is spent allocating power. Power seems to be the main constraint in this universe, and proportioning your power judiciously and carefully to reflect the situation the starship finds itself in seems to be a major concern and deserving of major attention. Having '52 disruptor banks' makes little sense if you're under fire, and unable to bring them all to bear. 27 torpedo bays similarly makes little sense if you can't defend either. This reminds me of the evolution of the Main Battle Tank. The reason all modern day battle tanks from different countries look the same is that there are overall constraints to design such that the optimum allocation of 'resources' ends up being the same. Given that tanks can't be too heavy, lest they can't cross bridges, they can't be too large, lest they can't be transported, and that they most likely would go up against other tanks, you end up finding yourself allocating small differences only in design. You don't have 10, or even 2 gun turrets, as by doing so you are sacrificing weight which could be allocated better to armour. Shinzons ship is the same - it's silly to have 10 turrets on a tank, just as it is silly having '52 disruptor banks'. Worf should have really just laughed out loud when reading the statistics, as it is obviously all for show, and useless in a real battle.
@@hub5343 not really. It nearly destroyed the enterprise and 2 other warbirds while still having 80% shield. If the Enterprise wasn't the protagonist's ship it would have been vaporized.
And with cloaking capabilities and thaleron weapons? That, if anything, is the ship of a people that subscribes to the idea that the best weapon is one which ends wars with its mere presence on the battlefield, and that if you want peace, prepare for war. I'd hate to think of a ship like that in the hands of the Klingons. Or worse, the Kazon.
Having a lot of guns does not make you warlike, it makes you able to respond to people that are warlike. Aggression, expansion and looking for any reason to start a fight is what makes you warlike.
@@ablaze1989 If you're actually using your ships to fight in regular battles, anyway. Something as overbuilt as the Scimitar class isn't a weapon of war, it's a deterrent. It's the kind of ship that says "we have the resources and technology to build big terrifying ships like this and the will to go out of our way to do so, so back off". Sure, the Klingons know that a ship that big would be impractical, and as a warrior race they would never make a ship like that as the backbone of their fleet due to that impracticality (jury's still out on the Kazon, they're kinda dumb). But it's still an asset with a particular use, and it brings massive amounts of firepower with it wherever it goes. Plus, it's sci-fi. Many of the weaknesses that real-life battleships have can be countered with the technology of the setting. Being a big target isn't nearly as much of an issue when you have shields that make you survivable enough to not care about being a big target, for example
This was truly an underrated movie, I really wish they had added Denise Crosby to the cast as his mentor......it would have had a much more emotional impact to the movie.
This scene is in and of itself Proof of how bad this film was. This guy is dying And he needs picard's blood desperately but he sits for 17 hours doing absolutely nothing. It's horrible writing
@danrob91 The movie had a good premise and interesting ideas. Too bad they cast an action movie director to do it. The film got bloated with tons of unnecessary action scenes and character development was left on the sidelines. It could have been a great sendoff, yet it turned out to be an insult to the TNG crew.
Interesting fact : In German, Picard says "Es ist ein Raubvogel" (" It is a bird of prey" ) , perfectly describing the type and shape of the Scimitar. In German, Romulan Warbirds and Klingon Birds of Prey were both called "Raubvogel - (Klasse) " in earlier translations of movies, series or books. Even partly nowadays.
The big Hus'nok warship that wiped out the Rana IV colony would've had a hell of time fighting the Scimitar, all right...If they hadn't all been "erased" from existence by Kevin Uxbridge the Douwd, that is! 😏
Still surprised the romulans did not use shinzons thalaron weapon against the dominion. Sure its forbidden/frowned upon tech, but since when do the romulans care?
@@SchimmenDanser it was likely lost with zinzon, the draw back the excessive paranoia in romulan culture is they wont share any advantage they have with there actual allies. And it's also likely they killed all the designers of that ship to assure its information security too.
@@SchimmenDanser In Memory Beta Canon, the IRW Scimitar was the culmination of a Romulan Military project that was designed to be used against the Dominion. So, had the Dominion War continued on for several more years, then the Scimitar-Type Warbird would have been used extensively
I don't think it was their sun, but rather a neighboring star probably a few light years away. Remember Spock was going to use red matter to collapse the star before the supernova could reach Romulus. What's the point of saving Romulus if your just going to destroy it's own sun?
I love the bone chilling way thr scimitar slow and steadily decloaks and approaches. Reminds me of the cage scene in Jaws when the shark first approaches. The enterprise is like an orca that just came face to face with a Megalodon
"52 disruptor banks, 27 photon torpedo bays, primary AND secondary shields." So basically what the Defiant would look like if they had build her this big^^
So the Remans, basically a labor/warrior species for the Romulans - somehow knew how, and in total secrecy - were able to build a ship more advanced than any Romulan ship, is also faster than the enterprise, with a perfect cloak, that they can fire weapons through.. That makes total sense.
We know parts of the military and Tal Shiar threw their lot in with Shinzon's forces. This was probably an experimental warbird under development, likely by the Tal Shiar that Shinzon took as his flagship.
In novelizations it's revealed that the Tal Shiar actually started the construction process, but then deliberately leaked information to the Remans, basically the Tal Shiar wanted Shinzon and the Remans to steal it and destroy Earth, thereby crippling the Federation but doing so in a way that Romulans could claim plausible deniability.
I always asked myself, how a fight between the Scimitar and a Borg-Cube would have ended. The Scimitar would be, by my estimates, a formidable opponent for a Borg-Cube in many, many ways.
Dude…that would be wild. The Borg would be flat footed for the first few minutes. Pretty sure that the file on the scimitar is way beyond classified so any assimilation of tal-Shiar.
It's kind of worked in in Star Trek Online: Scimitars are EXTREMELY powerful. But an assimilated one is even more dangerous. One such vessel is used as a "boss" during a Borg pve event.
Earlier in the movie it's mentioned that Shinzon was a formidable commander in the Dominion War. That must have shaped the Scimitar being what it is. A pure warship, an unstoppable killing machine, exactly the sort of warship the Romulans would dream up in response to the threat of the Cardassians and the Dominion and the Breen. I wouldn't be surprised if the Scimitar had already been on the drawing board of the Romulans before the Dominion War ended, and then Shinzon and the Remans simply made good use of preexisting schematics.
Actually it exactly the opposite of what you would dream up to fight the Dominion. The Dominion saw their primary fighting force he Jem'Hadar as disposable warriors and as we have seen, they are 100% willing to rammed into vessels to destroy them. Building something like the Scimitar, which is slow to maneuver is just silly. What you need to fight them is small, very maneuverable vessels like the Valdore warbirds we saw. Scimitar is something more design to fight the Borg, where you need to put in a hell of a lore fire power into a ship and quickly.
Worf: Raising shields! Picard: No! Worf: Sir!! Picard: Tactical analysis Mr Worf! Worf: 52 disrupters banks!! 27 photon launchers, primary and secondary shields. Picard: She’s a Predator. Worf: We could take em!! Picard: 🤨(looks at worf) Worf: Well someone’s gotta be the optimistic person right now....Sir...
cornerofthemoon A big gripe that people had is that it retconned how Picard looked in his early days. All flashbacks had him with a full head of hair but now he was supposed to be bald.
It could have easily been fixed too. Just have Hardy wear a wig. Being bald here could be seen as a choice. To fit in with his Reman comrades. The voice and accent change could also be a result of a different upbringing. They had a lot of potential with Shinzon. IMO it would have been more interesting to see Picard successfully talk him down. Only to have the Romulans come seeking revenge. To further oppress the Remans and take control of the Scimitar to destroy their enemies. You would then have Shinzon and Picard working together to take down the Scimitar. Ultimately Shinzon dies instead of Data. That would have been nice to watch.
@@amead78 My gripe is that, on the DVD there was all the deleted scenes from this film.. And it's just my opinion that Nemisis would've been a far better film had those scenes been left in. The deleted scenes show how, throughout the film, the crew were all going to go their separate ways. It was closure, and well written. I agree it's an underrated film... I love the size differences of the ships... But Picard was totally badass in this film. Also... Does anyone notice that the ending of this film, with Picard walking away with the camera in front of him after winning a huge battle by calling on all his experience and instincts.. was almost identical to the ending of the TOS episode Balance of Terror? Kirk too, after winning a huge battle by calling on all his experience and instincts, walked away with the camera in front of him. I do see though why some people didn't like this movie. I enjoyed it. But it's just my opinion.
Tom Hardy did such a great job I just wish they did better on setting him up. Because his face reveal to Picard is supposed to be shocking... and it didn't come across that way. I hate to say it but they should've used De-aging technology... if it existed back then.
And not to mention that the entire ship itself is actually a thalaron pulse radiation emitter and also carries it's own squadron of 40 Scorpion class fighters. The 52 disupter banks and 27 torpedo launchers is really just a distraction, lol. 😅
Shinzon's Scimitar, is in a massive way- incredibly cool. TWO layer shielding?! MASSIVE size... IF Freddy Mercury HAD a fuckin' warship- it would be the Scimitar, BUT- LOL! he'd fucking be on the Fed's side, makin' music with the best of them!
When I first saw Star Trek:Nemesis I have to admit that was quite the site seeing the Federation Flagship in orbit of Romulus like that and the tension on the bridge was so thick you could cut it with a knife though in all honesty I can't blame the crew for they're uneasyness as they were in the heart of Romulan territory and that they could be surrounded by fleets of Romulan warbirds cloaked full of Romulans who would probably love to destroy the Enterprise which is not only the Federation Flagship but also the strongest ship in the Federation fleet but is also crewed by the best the Federation has and destroying the Enterprise probably would Demoralize all Federation member worlds like how the loss of the Enterprise C most likely did at the battle of Nerendra 3.
You would not be able to see such things from this kind of perspective. The sizes of these dock and facilities would not be visible until you were right up to them.
If i was Picard, or anyone of the landing party; at the first sign of B.S. and odd talk, I'd say "IT'S TIME TO GO!" I'd take everyone and let the fool, be a fool by himself.
That predator ship is very well armed. But anyone familiar with the Enterprise J. The Enterprise J was only seen in one episode of Star Trek Enterprise. The episode Azati Prime. The episode gave very little info about the ship other then it was in service in the mid 26th century. However in an interview with Dug Drexler who designed most of the Star Trek ships said the Enterprise J is not only beyond warp drive but is the first federation ship to be able to travel outside the milky way galaxy. The Enterprise J is also armed to the teeth. Temporal weapons shield disruptors and also has a temporal prime directive officer on board. The Enterprise J would have 66 decks and slightly over 2 miles long. Now that is a ship. The Enterprises J is a universe class starship
The Vengeance would be annihilated. Cool and strong warship for its time, but still too old to properly fight an OP reman warbird. The Enterprise E could also destroy the Vengeance quite easily.
@@ahhlewissure, but advance it to the Reman’s time (with updates and all), and I think it would fare far better. After all, it only needed 4 people to run it, and it had turbo warp 😅)
Who would win a fight between a Borg Cube and the Scimitar I wonder? Would any of you guys like to throw an answer at this? Cube surely, as it could adapt???
@@edwardtyken8454 - Good answer Edward and based on your comments I would lean towards agreeing with you. BUT, surely a photon torpedo is a photon torpedo i.e. once the shields have adapted to 1 of these fired at them in the Star Trek universe (maybe a Federation ship), surely the Borg would have adapted to ALL of these weapon types from ANY other starship? What are your thoughts on this? Most appreciated...
Fun fact: Although bathrooms are never shown in any of the movies or TV shows, they were present and the captain would typically save time in his day by writing his journal entry while on the toilet doing his business. Hence the captain's journal was renamed to the captain's log, for the double-meaning.
There should have been at least somebody else designated to be "in charge", or even "in command" pending the safe return of the first three levels of command to the "Big E". Of course, the captain had the option to make that happen between the bridge and transporter room 4, while "off camera".
I really liked the movie. The face Riker has when Worf gives them the tactical analasis of the Scimitar .... but some things dont make sense like I was expecting Romulus to be well defended I mean small fleets of ships patroling at all times, turets etc ... also we know Shinzon was daying and didint have much time left, why did he wasted 17h to establish contact with the Enterprise !?
Posturing. Same reason Putin makes other leaders wait. It makes them uncomfortable and establishes dominance. It allows him to take more control over the situation by distracting the others with their discomfort.
I’ve often wondered this, why don’t Star Trek ships have secondary and tertiary etc shields? Plot wise it would ruin tension, but by sci-Fi design, it would be obvious to me, to have redundancies built in. Primary dorsal shield fails, activate the secondary shield, by the time secondary fails the primary is able to be brought back up. Other works have layers like this, first thing that comes to mind is warhammer with layers upon layers of void shields. I understand different universe, different rules, but the lack of shield layering in Star Trek stands out to me as a sore thumb. Worf saying “primary AND secondary shields” only has weight because the concept is treated as binary in Star Trek, a ship either has shields or it doesn’t. It’s something that’s always annoyed me.
I'd assume is because of power consumption. Shields just eat up too much power in the Trek Universe. That and Starfleet aggressively wants to promote themselves as explorers, not a military outfit, and to a fault. What you're talking about in WarHammer is an absolutely, completely different scenario.
I agree with this, power consumption is the best explanation. Shield technology could be much less sophisticated than we might expect as well, it must take tremendous amounts of energy to protect something that size and still have enough power to keep primary and secondary systems online while having enough power to fire concentrated energy beam weapons. @@mechanomics2649 @flamingmuffin666
After this highly advanced Enterprise E and two Romulan warbirds, with at least the Enterprise exhausting all of its weapons, the Scimitar still had 70% shields remaining.
Writer 1: "So Picard meets him and here's the thing - he's his CLONE" Writer 2: "Wait, why is he bald?" Writer 1: "Duh, because Picard is bald and he's a CLONE" Writer 2: "...but people aren't born ba- you know what, I can't remember why I even care"
If you haven't already, please obtain the 4K BluRay of Star Trek: Nemesis. The surround sound is absolutely superb and the dolby vision visuals are spectacular!
The whole story of this is so nonsensical lmao. Love that the movie writers had no idea the Romulans just won a war with the Federation in like the same year. They're not even enemies at this time.
I think a wise man always will have peace in mind but if peace should fail. You better have a weapon that is three times more powerful than theirs. Just like old Teddy once said "Speak softly and carry a big stick".
What a menace, how could a single ship have over 52 disruptors on them. Still, that dual layered shield is impressive, the Enterprise-E fired everything it had and it only did a third of the damage, looks like they really wanted to bump the most advanced ship in Starfleet off it's high pedestal and make them feel inadequate Only a Jem'Hadar battleship could even have a chance to stand toe to toe with this thing
In Star Trek Online I fly this with my Romulan Republic character but it's in the original Scimitar configuration. There's no substitute for the original version.
"No don't raise shields, run a tactical scan on their ship." I think option 1 is less of a threat, and what harm would it have done to not have had shields on the whole time, 17 hours around the Romulan home planet, no there's no way a Romulan warship not familiar with the situation might try to sneak attack you. Also, why in the world did you send half the bridge crew on the transporter, including Picard, there is no possibility that those transport coordinates might be a trap or something.
Why didn't they make the Dominion the ones who cloned Shinzon? Hell, make them heavily involved in this whole affair, it's right up their alley and it makes way more sense for them to have a warship that could match the Enterprise E.
The only real thing that bugged me is that the lights started to dim at Shinzon saying "Computer.." as in, before he made the request vocal. Reman ship computers are psychic?
with that ship, the galaxy would be mine, but, some of my additions: A huge ass throne room A armory with very powerful weapons Many transporter rooms, with which to transport strike teams a office, of course, the desk plated with latinum
52 disruptor banks and 27 torpedo launchers. To put that in prespective, that one ship almost has the same firepower as the entire fleet at Wolf 359. That not a "predator" , thats an extinction event with engines.
It could depopulate a Continent.
@@RandyBaumery-s4i Planet if you count the Theleron weapon.
@@VergilArcanis Excellent point!
To be fair, that was what? 13 years ago? Also, the types of ships the Federation used against the Borg in Wolf 359 were not top of the line/modern ships (for that time period).
After Wolf 359, discovering the Dominion, the Klingon's going rogue, the Borg attacking Earth AGAIN, and the Dominion war, Star Fleet has finally begun to produce some ships with series muscle. Ships like the Defiant, Akira, Prometheus and of course the Sovereign. With these ships, the Federation is in a far better position to defend itself.
This is not meant to downplay the Scimitar though...that thing is a fracking beast!
Can you imagine in real-life that the USS GERALD R. FORD had that amount of firepower on it, including the shields.
"Captain, we've been out here for 17 hours."
"Don't worry, Mr. Worf. They started the background music. Should only be another couple minutes."
“Patience. Diplomacy is a very….wait, why do I hear boss music?!”
I really love the shocked expression that Frakes had on his face when they were reading out the weapons and systems complement of the Scimitar.
It was like Starfleet getting the first good look at what an actual, honest-to-god capital warship looked like and it *_scared_* them.
It would be like... I don't know... going to the Bolivian Navy and if they somehow never heard of a battleship and getting a sight of the USS New Jersey pulling up alongside them.
Surely the Jem'Hadar warships were pretty strong.
@@ianhirst1148 The Jem'Hadar Battleships were strong but still in the same weight class as the Galaxy (ENT-D), and Soviergn (ENT-E), the Scimitar is a super dreadnought that has more in common with a Borg Tactical Cube than the Enterprise. This ship would have been hideously expensive to produce, which is why the Federation or the Dominion never built something that big.
Pretty sure away team protocol leans towards not taking the entire senior command staff.
In this case it's a diplomatic away team and the captain is basically an ambassador with his advisers.
@@edwardtyken8454 Data didn't wear his for long enough. 😔
I was thinking this. Worf could've stayed aboard in command. Like, who did get left in command? Geordi was in engineering, . . . Who else has got "Looking into the Eyes of the War Machine, . . . And thinking WE were Badass in this Sovereign Class Strike Cruiser" level command experience?
Ah those words "she's a predator" still love them to this day
There's being outgunned and there's being OUTGUNNED.
No need for caps
Relax. Big E held together pretty good in the fight. Really good, actually.
@@johnhand8879 The caps emphasize their point holmes
@@KH4444444444N yeah its almost as if Shinzon wanst trying to destroy the only chance for him to live and held back a LOT ...
@@Asghaad The Enterprise had Picard's decades of tactical experience and a seasoned crew of veterans of countless conflicts who worked together as a cohesive unit. The Scimitar had a dying clone of Picard with none of his training or experience and was crewed by a bunch of Remans who up until a short time ago were all slave miners. Still the Scimitar could have had victory if it had commited to the Enterprises destruction from the get go but it was held back by Shinzon's hubris.
"I was born in the dark, molded by it..."
I knew nothing of the light until I was already a man and then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!!!!!!!
The Swarm yes the same actor...Tom hardy
@The Swarm lol yes its the same actor, he is also venom. www.imdb.com/name/nm0362766/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
@@anthonycoccaro5124 But Shinzon was a far superior performance to both his Bane and Venom
Victory has defeated YOU.
Gotta love the way Riker immediately moves to protect Troy.
He was just going to hide behind her.
Troi. Not Troy.
@@teecee1567 noted
Xaxaxa, that was a cool observation!!!
Love....
Gotta love how the entirety of the senior staff goes across to a potentially hostile faction in one shot.
They left Worf. If they died, he would have avenged them or died trying (probably the latter).
But, indeed this makes no sense. Riker had no business being there, neither did Data.
Yeah they let Larry run the ship
@@TeunSegers Worf went. Data Picard Riker Troi Worf.
They left beverly behind she would of been dry humping shinson or if poodle chicken soup woman was still around she would of neen knawing his leg
*Picard, Riker, Data, Worf and Troi beam aboard the Scimitar*
*Reman security guards with disruptor rifles surround them*
Shinzon: Hahaha!!!!! You Starfleet types are so easy to outsmart!!!!!! Now your puny ship stands even less of a chance against us!!!!!!
Tom Hardy was seriously underrated in this movie, especially by himself.
The entire movie was siriusly underrated, sadly.
I don't remember what movie it was but I was watching a clip from something earlier and someone else had the exact same opinion about him in that one too lol
@@mitchellgiles6869 Me too... just an hour or so ago.. Tom Hardy's performance in "Legend".
@@teecee1567lol I've never even heard of that one, Tom Hardy really must be the man
Scimetar, now that Is a proper war ship, like a navy destroyer!!!
Lol. After 17 hours Worf is finally like "I reccomend we raise shields"
Joe he’s more experienced now lol
Joe
Picard: Now you want to raise shields, Mr Worf?
Worf: Well sir, I just remembered how to fire phasers.
Joe Picard "Not yet Mr Worf", poor Worf is still denied
He's probably been asking every 10 minutes the entire time.
he should have lent by now that when worf recommends raising shields picard WILL tell him. not before
"Counselor?"
- "They're out there, sir."
No sh*t, Deanna... You're orbiting Romulus.
The talk was more specific. They are close but unwilling to respond.
''So like this younger captain Picard should look just like him, bald like he is herp a derp'' But sir! in the show his young version had hair which is natural since he was younger.. ''nah audiences is stupid should make him bald too so they know for sure it's his younger version herp a derp.''
I like it when Hardy is banging her but she thought it was Riker in her mind .
LMAO
"Praetor?!"
I dont care what anyone says I loved this movie and it was a good ending to the TnG era.
I agree
Agreed! It may have got slated but I also thought it was a fitting finale!
I agree, I also love Nemesis!
Same here. I felt that it was one of the best ST movies ever.
This movie made no sense. They definitely changed the script
Notice the Enterprise's bridge crew stunned at the offensive and defensive arsenal of the Scimitar.
They were creaming there pants!!
So all you're really missing is Dr Crusher and Geordi. Could've have wiped out the entire Away Team and killed the entire Cast lol.
Scimitar was the Trek equivalent of the Bismark: a warship so colossally powerful that its mere existence was a threat that simply could not be ignored. Even without taking into account the Thalaron weapon, Scimitar was easily the most powerful starship in the entire quadrant. Imagine how much damage Shinzon could have done to Starfleet if he'd managed to survive and get past Enterprise at the Bassen Rift.
Well, the Bismarck was built as an attempted counter to the French Richelieu-class crusiers(which were larger, faster, had more armor, and bigger guns than the Bismarck), and it only lasted 8 months before being crippled by biplanes and sunk by a few destroyers. So, yes, the Scimiatar is very similar to the Bismarck in that is a very powerful, expensive warship that was sunk before it had any significant effect on the war.
@@chrisvickers1357half your comment is literally dead wrong, please educate yourself.
You could at least have spelled Bismarck correctly my dude.
@@chrisvickers1357yeh the bismark tht symbol of Nazi pride beside the Hindenburg thst lol ther most strobgratcwarahil they had into. Ther Novak fleets
Look up the weapon specs of the Bismarck. It really wasn't that impressive compared to its contemporary
Now that's a true warship.
How would it match up against the USS Vengeance?
Similar matchup to the introduction of the D'Deridex warbirds at the end of S1 of TNG. Romulans have always liked to surprise Starfleet.
I'd call it a badly designed power fantasy, but to each it's own.
The D'Deridex is cool. The Scimitar is just overgrown and fugly.
This ship though doesn't look Romulan. It seems to lack the cultural and mythical elements that Warbirds and other previous Romulan vessels had. This ship looks messy and badly designed. Perhaps that was its intent? If you pile a whole lot of stuff on top of each other, it looks like a cluster of delicate sticks loosely joined together.
But more doesn't equal better - a lot of Star Trek screen time on starships is spent allocating power. Power seems to be the main constraint in this universe, and proportioning your power judiciously and carefully to reflect the situation the starship finds itself in seems to be a major concern and deserving of major attention. Having '52 disruptor banks' makes little sense if you're under fire, and unable to bring them all to bear. 27 torpedo bays similarly makes little sense if you can't defend either.
This reminds me of the evolution of the Main Battle Tank. The reason all modern day battle tanks from different countries look the same is that there are overall constraints to design such that the optimum allocation of 'resources' ends up being the same. Given that tanks can't be too heavy, lest they can't cross bridges, they can't be too large, lest they can't be transported, and that they most likely would go up against other tanks, you end up finding yourself allocating small differences only in design. You don't have 10, or even 2 gun turrets, as by doing so you are sacrificing weight which could be allocated better to armour. Shinzons ship is the same - it's silly to have 10 turrets on a tank, just as it is silly having '52 disruptor banks'.
Worf should have really just laughed out loud when reading the statistics, as it is obviously all for show, and useless in a real battle.
@@hub5343 not really. It nearly destroyed the enterprise and 2 other warbirds while still having 80% shield. If the Enterprise wasn't the protagonist's ship it would have been vaporized.
"52 disruptor banks, 27 photon torpedo bays, primary AND secondary shields."
Naw, they're not a warlike race, are they? 😆
And with cloaking capabilities and thaleron weapons? That, if anything, is the ship of a people that subscribes to the idea that the best weapon is one which ends wars with its mere presence on the battlefield, and that if you want peace, prepare for war.
I'd hate to think of a ship like that in the hands of the Klingons. Or worse, the Kazon.
@@VestedUTuber The Klingons are smarter than that, you don't win wars with one super ship, you win it with a lot of good ships.
Having a lot of guns does not make you warlike, it makes you able to respond to people that are warlike. Aggression, expansion and looking for any reason to start a fight is what makes you warlike.
@@ablaze1989
If you're actually using your ships to fight in regular battles, anyway. Something as overbuilt as the Scimitar class isn't a weapon of war, it's a deterrent. It's the kind of ship that says "we have the resources and technology to build big terrifying ships like this and the will to go out of our way to do so, so back off".
Sure, the Klingons know that a ship that big would be impractical, and as a warrior race they would never make a ship like that as the backbone of their fleet due to that impracticality (jury's still out on the Kazon, they're kinda dumb). But it's still an asset with a particular use, and it brings massive amounts of firepower with it wherever it goes.
Plus, it's sci-fi. Many of the weaknesses that real-life battleships have can be countered with the technology of the setting. Being a big target isn't nearly as much of an issue when you have shields that make you survivable enough to not care about being a big target, for example
@@ablaze1989 "She's a predator." Your argument is invalid.
That’s one of the most beautiful ships ever made 😀👍🥰… Sovereign Class what a vessel
Absolutely loved this scene, the look on Picards & Rikers face says it all.
This was truly an underrated movie, I really wish they had added Denise Crosby to the cast as his mentor......it would have had a much more emotional impact to the movie.
yes, nemesis is also my most favourite st movie. the only film that accurately depict how actually st universe starship battle work.
This scene is in and of itself Proof of how bad this film was. This guy is dying And he needs picard's blood desperately but he sits for 17 hours doing absolutely nothing. It's horrible writing
why she was not in the movie made me wonder...
@danrob91 The movie had a good premise and interesting ideas. Too bad they cast an action movie director to do it. The film got bloated with tons of unnecessary action scenes and character development was left on the sidelines.
It could have been a great sendoff, yet it turned out to be an insult to the TNG crew.
Yes. But not as Yar. As Sela.
Can we just appreciate how eerily Ron Perelman played a vampire alien?
Interesting fact : In German, Picard says "Es ist ein Raubvogel" (" It is a bird of prey" ) , perfectly describing the type and shape of the Scimitar. In German, Romulan Warbirds and Klingon Birds of Prey were both called "Raubvogel - (Klasse) " in earlier translations of movies, series or books. Even partly nowadays.
Uncloaking of that ship was 1 of the best scenes in star trek
"Is it my imagination or does the ship look a lot meaner this time?"
The big Hus'nok warship that wiped out the Rana IV colony would've had a hell of time fighting the Scimitar, all right...If they hadn't all been "erased" from existence by Kevin Uxbridge the Douwd, that is! 😏
@@charlestaylor253 Kevin would have beaten the Scimitar….lol
I always wanted one of those knives. I'm glad they'll still be available in 500 years.
Probably a replica of a Klingon hair clip, or something.
It's called a Double Shadow. I've seen it in lots of movies and shows.
Designed by Gil Hibben of 'Hibbenknives' fame. He also designed the iconic Rambo/First Blood I-III combat knife series back in the '80's...🤓
Yes. A Klingon circumcision knife...🤪
If the Romulans had a fleet of these nasty war birds when they attacked the founders things may have gone differently for them.
Still surprised the romulans did not use shinzons thalaron weapon against the dominion. Sure its forbidden/frowned upon tech, but since when do the romulans care?
@@SchimmenDanser it was likely lost with zinzon, the draw back the excessive paranoia in romulan culture is they wont share any advantage they have with there actual allies. And it's also likely they killed all the designers of that ship to assure its information security too.
@@SchimmenDanser Scaled-down and more efficient versions of Thalaron based technology would've given them a killer chance against the Borg.... !!
Ikr. Yup!!!!!
@@SchimmenDanser In Memory Beta Canon, the IRW Scimitar was the culmination of a Romulan Military project that was designed to be used against the Dominion. So, had the Dominion War continued on for several more years, then the Scimitar-Type Warbird would have been used extensively
It’s ironic that the Remen and Romulans weren’t smart enough to know the sun of their solar system would go supernova a few decades later...
That smells like a cover-ops operation, maybe section 31?
@@hanzo8120 small portions of trilitium injected in the sun
I don't think it was their sun, but rather a neighboring star probably a few light years away. Remember Spock was going to use red matter to collapse the star before the supernova could reach Romulus. What's the point of saving Romulus if your just going to destroy it's own sun?
it was the hobus star that went nova and its shockwave travelled at super warp speeds and destroyed romulus
When you're busy flexing your muscles and preening; you miss alot!
I love the bone chilling way thr scimitar slow and steadily decloaks and approaches. Reminds me of the cage scene in Jaws when the shark first approaches. The enterprise is like an orca that just came face to face with a Megalodon
Great ship. It even has an otherwise utterly useless room with an "important stairway" for important stuff like walking down dramatically.
"52 disruptor banks, 27 photon torpedo bays, primary AND secondary shields."
So basically what the Defiant would look like if they had build her this big^^
So the Remans, basically a labor/warrior species for the Romulans - somehow knew how, and in total secrecy - were able to build a ship more advanced than any Romulan ship, is also faster than the enterprise, with a perfect cloak, that they can fire weapons through.. That makes total sense.
We know parts of the military and Tal Shiar threw their lot in with Shinzon's forces. This was probably an experimental warbird under development, likely by the Tal Shiar that Shinzon took as his flagship.
In novelizations it's revealed that the Tal Shiar actually started the construction process, but then deliberately leaked information to the Remans, basically the Tal Shiar wanted Shinzon and the Remans to steal it and destroy Earth, thereby crippling the Federation but doing so in a way that Romulans could claim plausible deniability.
Riker's face when they lay out it's armaments is priceless.
I always asked myself, how a fight between the Scimitar and a Borg-Cube would have ended. The Scimitar would be, by my estimates, a formidable opponent for a Borg-Cube in many, many ways.
Dude…that would be wild. The Borg would be flat footed for the first few minutes. Pretty sure that the file on the scimitar is way beyond classified so any assimilation of tal-Shiar.
They would have hit them 1st and hard to get out of it
It's kind of worked in in Star Trek Online: Scimitars are EXTREMELY powerful. But an assimilated one is even more dangerous.
One such vessel is used as a "boss" during a Borg pve event.
Resistance is futile
@@lorettawilliams9243 - Correct and the Borg WOULD adapt to the Slap Heads technology...
Earlier in the movie it's mentioned that Shinzon was a formidable commander in the Dominion War. That must have shaped the Scimitar being what it is. A pure warship, an unstoppable killing machine, exactly the sort of warship the Romulans would dream up in response to the threat of the Cardassians and the Dominion and the Breen. I wouldn't be surprised if the Scimitar had already been on the drawing board of the Romulans before the Dominion War ended, and then Shinzon and the Remans simply made good use of preexisting schematics.
Actually it exactly the opposite of what you would dream up to fight the Dominion. The Dominion saw their primary fighting force he Jem'Hadar as disposable warriors and as we have seen, they are 100% willing to rammed into vessels to destroy them. Building something like the Scimitar, which is slow to maneuver is just silly.
What you need to fight them is small, very maneuverable vessels like the Valdore warbirds we saw.
Scimitar is something more design to fight the Borg, where you need to put in a hell of a lore fire power into a ship and quickly.
@@DavidKnowles0 You forget that it can fire while cloaked. Maneuverability was not in its equation for strong defense.
@@DavidKnowles0it’s actually pretty fast you the Battle the Scimitar is pretty quick
Some books talk about Shinizon in the war and how the Remans battled the Jem'Hadar in hand to hand comabat and were very strong.
I was born in darkness. Says in bane voice.
Nemesis gets a bad rap, but I think it's a very underrated film. The tension in these scenes was superb.
It's the best of all Trek films.
Boy it sure looks dangerous.. what's that you say? Beam over. Ok. Senior staff let's go and leave these nobodys in charge of the Enterprise
If you can't beat em, join em lol
Worf: Raising shields!
Picard: No!
Worf: Sir!!
Picard: Tactical analysis Mr Worf!
Worf: 52 disrupters banks!! 27 photon launchers, primary and secondary shields.
Picard: She’s a Predator.
Worf: We could take em!!
Picard: 🤨(looks at worf)
Worf: Well someone’s gotta be the optimistic person right now....Sir...
This be part where id say turn the ship 180 degrees and hit hyper space button and hope for best we get out romulan space
Shinzon really dropped the ball fighting The Enterprise and its crew. He had the upper hand but failed miserably.
Never underestimate the dangers of being arrogant.
He was holding back until the VERY end as he needed Picard alive.
@@toastedjawa3620 He only needed Picard as a donor and could've made use of him at any time.
@@OveBakken because Picard *escaped*, genius. He was trying to recapture him up until it was too late for it to matter. He was holding back.
@@toastedjawa3620 He wasted time. He wasted his upper hand. Period.
This film is underrated.
The only thing I dislike about this movie is that Data dies. Other than that though, awesome film.
The scimitar is a beast.
it's blueprints were later used by both the romulan republic AND oddly the crumbling star empire. So it's legacy lived on?
Nemesis is highly underrated.My only real gripe is that Tom Hardy looks and sounds nothing like Patrick Stewart.
cornerofthemoon A big gripe that people had is that it retconned how Picard looked in his early days. All flashbacks had him with a full head of hair but now he was supposed to be bald.
It could have easily been fixed too. Just have Hardy wear a wig. Being bald here could be seen as a choice. To fit in with his Reman comrades. The voice and accent change could also be a result of a different upbringing. They had a lot of potential with Shinzon. IMO it would have been more interesting to see Picard successfully talk him down. Only to have the Romulans come seeking revenge. To further oppress the Remans and take control of the Scimitar to destroy their enemies. You would then have Shinzon and Picard working together to take down the Scimitar. Ultimately Shinzon dies instead of Data. That would have been nice to watch.
a clone does not mean you will look exactly like that person it just means your genetic makeup is identical
@@amead78 My gripe is that, on the DVD there was all the deleted scenes from this film.. And it's just my opinion that Nemisis would've been a far better film had those scenes been left in. The deleted scenes show how, throughout the film, the crew were all going to go their separate ways. It was closure, and well written. I agree it's an underrated film... I love the size differences of the ships... But Picard was totally badass in this film.
Also... Does anyone notice that the ending of this film, with Picard walking away with the camera in front of him after winning a huge battle by calling on all his experience and instincts.. was almost identical to the ending of the TOS episode Balance of Terror? Kirk too, after winning a huge battle by calling on all his experience and instincts, walked away with the camera in front of him.
I do see though why some people didn't like this movie. I enjoyed it. But it's just my opinion.
Aaron A lot of the deleted scenes should have been in the movie, especially the ending with the new first officer.
Tom Hardy did such a great job I just wish they did better on setting him up. Because his face reveal to Picard is supposed to be shocking... and it didn't come across that way. I hate to say it but they should've used De-aging technology... if it existed back then.
That moment when you remember that Ron Pearlman has been on Star Trek!
And he never looked better.
Well so has Christopher Lloyd.
And not to mention that the entire ship itself is actually a thalaron pulse radiation emitter and also carries it's own squadron of 40 Scorpion class fighters. The 52 disupter banks and 27 torpedo launchers is really just a distraction, lol. 😅
I don't know if everyone realizes this. The viceroy is Ron Perlman. My mind was blown when I heard this.
2:08 - 2:27 Dat soundtrack though
The movie wasn't that great but the soundtrack was awesome
I always believed that the Scimitar was build by Shinzon in one of the conquered Dominion shipyards.
That's plausible as its about the size of a Dominion Super Battleship the USS Valiant went up against.
Shinzon's Scimitar, is in a massive way- incredibly cool. TWO layer shielding?! MASSIVE size... IF Freddy Mercury HAD a fuckin' warship- it would be the Scimitar, BUT- LOL! he'd fucking be on the Fed's side, makin' music with the best of them!
You my friend, are a proper nerd.
Singing , We are the Champions as they lay waste on enemy ships .
When I first saw Star Trek:Nemesis I have to admit that was quite the site seeing the Federation Flagship in orbit of Romulus like that and the tension on the bridge was so thick you could cut it with a knife though in all honesty I can't blame the crew for they're uneasyness as they were in the heart of Romulan territory and that they could be surrounded by fleets of Romulan warbirds cloaked full of Romulans who would probably love to destroy the Enterprise which is not only the Federation Flagship but also the strongest ship in the Federation fleet but is also crewed by the best the Federation has and destroying the Enterprise probably would Demoralize all Federation member worlds like how the loss of the Enterprise C most likely did at the battle of Nerendra 3.
You forgot USS Prometheus. Even though Sovereign-class is top of the art, its not an all-out warship like Prometheus.
This is the longest sentence I've ever read.
Almost the entire senior staff in the away team. Shinzon could have taken all of them hostage and the movie would have ended right there 😅
My favorite Star Trek movie! Seen it in theaters!
Surely not! Marked the end of Star Trek!
Me too. And I cried at the end.
For an imperial home world, interesting that Romulus doesn’t have multiple shipyards, space docks and ships floating around in orbit.
All cloaked
You wouldn't see those in space because space is massive.
Good point. It would make sense to have a few ships around their Homeworld or at least a space station
You would not be able to see such things from this kind of perspective. The sizes of these dock and facilities would not be visible until you were right up to them.
Is this the one that made the Kessel run in 12 parsecs?
Star wars speeds are basically like comparing warp 1 to warp 9.99
The strangest thing about this is Troi didn't give her usual "Captain, he's LYING!" line.
If i was Picard, or anyone of the landing party; at the first sign of B.S. and odd talk, I'd say "IT'S TIME TO GO!" I'd take everyone and let the fool, be a fool by himself.
That predator ship is very well armed. But anyone familiar with the Enterprise J. The Enterprise J was only seen in one episode of Star Trek Enterprise. The episode Azati Prime. The episode gave very little info about the ship other then it was in service in the mid 26th century. However in an interview with Dug Drexler who designed most of the Star Trek ships said the Enterprise J is not only beyond warp drive but is the first federation ship to be able to travel outside the milky way galaxy. The Enterprise J is also armed to the teeth. Temporal weapons shield disruptors and also has a temporal prime directive officer on board. The Enterprise J would have 66 decks and slightly over 2 miles long. Now that is a ship. The Enterprises J is a universe class starship
Now imagine some new species makes a warship 100x larger than Enterprise-J!
Sounds boring. The crew should made a lot of mistake to make a tv-show interesting.
I'd honestly would like to see that warbird take on the vengeance
The Vengeance would be annihilated. Cool and strong warship for its time, but still too old to properly fight an OP reman warbird. The Enterprise E could also destroy the Vengeance quite easily.
My vote is on the Vengeance. Super OP, and would only get tougher over time with updates and refits
the vengeance would be couple hundred years old, slower, weaker
@@ahhlewissure, but advance it to the Reman’s time (with updates and all), and I think it would fare far better. After all, it only needed 4 people to run it, and it had turbo warp 😅)
excellent score for the reveal
god tom hardy is suuuchhh a great actor. gives me the chills!
Who would win a fight between a Borg Cube and the Scimitar I wonder? Would any of you guys like to throw an answer at this? Cube surely, as it could adapt???
@@edwardtyken8454 - Good answer Edward and based on your comments I would lean towards agreeing with you. BUT, surely a photon torpedo is a photon torpedo i.e. once the shields have adapted to 1 of these fired at them in the Star Trek universe (maybe a Federation ship), surely the Borg would have adapted to ALL of these weapon types from ANY other starship? What are your thoughts on this? Most appreciated...
Still getting the chills: She is a predator
This movie is so underrated
The theme during the Captains Log though
Cracks me up how they made Picard balder as a young man
Fun fact: Although bathrooms are never shown in any of the movies or TV shows, they were present and the captain would typically save time in his day by writing his journal entry while on the toilet doing his business. Hence the captain's journal was renamed to the captain's log, for the double-meaning.
Oh no! You’ve no idea what you’ve done. From now on every time I hear “captain’s log” this will be in the back of my mind!
😂 😂 😂😂😂😂
Why would a away team have so many senior officers in it ?
Its a Diplomatic away team.
It shouldn't. It never would have in TNG, but the writing was way better back then.
There should have been at least somebody else designated to be "in charge", or even "in command" pending the safe return of the first three levels of command to the "Big E".
Of course, the captain had the option to make that happen between the bridge and transporter room 4, while "off camera".
I really liked the movie. The face Riker has when Worf gives them the tactical analasis of the Scimitar .... but some things dont make sense like I was expecting Romulus to be well defended I mean small fleets of ships patroling at all times, turets etc ... also we know Shinzon was daying and didint have much time left, why did he wasted 17h to establish contact with the Enterprise !?
Posturing. Same reason Putin makes other leaders wait. It makes them uncomfortable and establishes dominance. It allows him to take more control over the situation by distracting the others with their discomfort.
Realistically you wouldn't be able to see any of them because space is massive. But in the movie they don't seem to acknowledge it either way.
Can definitely see inspiration taken from the jem'hader warship and battleship with the scimtars design with some romulan flare
Nero's Narada VS The Scimitar VS USS Vengeance of Adm Marcus ?
I’ve often wondered this, why don’t Star Trek ships have secondary and tertiary etc shields? Plot wise it would ruin tension, but by sci-Fi design, it would be obvious to me, to have redundancies built in.
Primary dorsal shield fails, activate the secondary shield, by the time secondary fails the primary is able to be brought back up. Other works have layers like this, first thing that comes to mind is warhammer with layers upon layers of void shields.
I understand different universe, different rules, but the lack of shield layering in Star Trek stands out to me as a sore thumb.
Worf saying “primary AND secondary shields” only has weight because the concept is treated as binary in Star Trek, a ship either has shields or it doesn’t.
It’s something that’s always annoyed me.
I'd assume is because of power consumption. Shields just eat up too much power in the Trek Universe.
That and Starfleet aggressively wants to promote themselves as explorers, not a military outfit, and to a fault. What you're talking about in WarHammer is an absolutely, completely different scenario.
I agree with this, power consumption is the best explanation. Shield technology could be much less sophisticated than we might expect as well, it must take tremendous amounts of energy to protect something that size and still have enough power to keep primary and secondary systems online while having enough power to fire concentrated energy beam weapons. @@mechanomics2649 @flamingmuffin666
Jean Luc, you fight like a younger man with nothing held back. Admirable but mistaken. 😂
After this highly advanced Enterprise E and two Romulan warbirds, with at least the Enterprise exhausting all of its weapons, the Scimitar still had 70% shields remaining.
Writer 1: "So Picard meets him and here's the thing - he's his CLONE"
Writer 2: "Wait, why is he bald?"
Writer 1: "Duh, because Picard is bald and he's a CLONE"
Writer 2: "...but people aren't born ba- you know what, I can't remember why I even care"
actually we see young picard in tng series, and he wasnt bald and that actor lookd more like picard than tom hardy
@Reunite The British Empire lame plot to justify having bald tom hardy because it has no other similarity with picard
I can see this conversation between John Logan and Brent Spiner, since the former seemed determined to make this a Picard-Data fanfic.
Enterprise E is a beauty.
If you haven't already, please obtain the 4K BluRay of Star Trek: Nemesis. The surround sound is absolutely superb and the dolby vision visuals are spectacular!
I like the look on Rikers face when Worf says 27 Photon Torpedo Bays.
Fun fact: Star wars also having a ship name Scimitars and it have a cloaking device too.
52 disrupter banks
27 photon torpedo bays
primary and secondary shielding
"she's a Black friday shopper'
The whole story of this is so nonsensical lmao. Love that the movie writers had no idea the Romulans just won a war with the Federation in like the same year. They're not even enemies at this time.
Warbird uncloaking; Enterprise ' we are the reamon warbird shimitar ...🤔
I think a wise man always will have peace in mind but if peace should fail. You better have a weapon that is three times more powerful than theirs. Just like old Teddy once said "Speak softly and carry a big stick".
What a menace, how could a single ship have over 52 disruptors on them. Still, that dual layered shield is impressive, the Enterprise-E fired everything it had and it only did a third of the damage, looks like they really wanted to bump the most advanced ship in Starfleet off it's high pedestal and make them feel inadequate
Only a Jem'Hadar battleship could even have a chance to stand toe to toe with this thing
Or a Borg Cube.
Dominion Battleship Vs Scimitar is something I'd like to see.
@@SwordsmanMercenary Hell ya.
Star Trek Online Bortisqu and Odyssey class says hi.
I have to admit, the UPS delivery van looks...different than I expected it.
Imagine having a whole fleet of Reman warbirds...apart from Species 8472, the Borg would have truly met their match.
Really liked this not so popular movie. Good action..and storyboarding.
Away team? He might as well say half of the primary bridge crew
In Star Trek Online I fly this with my Romulan Republic character but it's in the original Scimitar configuration. There's no substitute for the original version.
Amazing how the reviews were meh, when it hit theatres. Compared to recent Trek films/shows, we wish we had comparable Trek like Nemesis.
despite my HATRED of this movie, I'm force to agree. What we have now is like watching a kid play with the dead corpse of its dog.
"No don't raise shields, run a tactical scan on their ship." I think option 1 is less of a threat, and what harm would it have done to not have had shields on the whole time, 17 hours around the Romulan home planet, no there's no way a Romulan warship not familiar with the situation might try to sneak attack you.
Also, why in the world did you send half the bridge crew on the transporter, including Picard, there is no possibility that those transport coordinates might be a trap or something.
3:03 Shinzon sounds exactly like Eddie Izzard at first.
One of the best ship reveals in sci fi history tbh
I am not Shinzon, I am his viceroy, Ron Perlman
No matter what you think of the movie.....that it a beautiful ship.
Love this movie and that warbird is Whoa.
Why didn't they make the Dominion the ones who cloned Shinzon? Hell, make them heavily involved in this whole affair, it's right up their alley and it makes way more sense for them to have a warship that could match the Enterprise E.
oh how i miss this Picard. strong and sturdy, now all we got is a frail old man making alot of cheesy one liner jokes.
Yeah, but he's uplifting women and fighting the patriarchy!! 🤣
The only real thing that bugged me is that the lights started to dim at Shinzon saying "Computer.." as in, before he made the request vocal.
Reman ship computers are psychic?
Why would you send the captain, first officer, head of security, ships counselor and a commander (Data) all together on one away team?
with that ship, the galaxy would be mine, but, some of my additions:
A huge ass throne room
A armory with very powerful weapons
Many transporter rooms, with which to transport strike teams
a office, of course, the desk plated with latinum
@music king :
Why not just make the desk of solid latinum?