nini salazar roberts being the worst character for 11 minutes straight

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  • dedicated to the biggest nini hater i know other than myself
    don't watch if u love nini and are easily offended. nini will never be loved by me so don't bother trying
    this video is about the FICTIONAL character nini, not the actress
    #hsmtmts #nini #ninisalazarroberts #hsmtmtsedit #hsm #highschoolmusicalthemusicaltheseries

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  • @martinachooffey1843
    @martinachooffey1843 Рік тому +4118

    I never realized how much Nini was the problem in a lot of these situations. she was TERRIBLE at communicating with Ricky god DAMN

    • @UnBesoDeCristal
      @UnBesoDeCristal Рік тому +96

      He literally asked for a break and saw other girls then started trying to ruin her new relationship, then deleted a comment about a music showcase because he was insecure? Sure shes the problem. Misogyny mental gymnastics are so funny .

    • @danielmarkovic
      @danielmarkovic Рік тому +177

      @@UnBesoDeCristal Yes, Ricky did something really stupid, and he paid the price for it. He spent months trying to better himself and be a better person for Nini and they ultimately ended up together. What Nini did right after wasn't right though. She told Ricky that she was leaving way too late and that even though she knows about his abandonment issues. She should've communicated this way sooner. Ricky tried to be supportive of her decision and really help her with the new school. Nini again didn't communicate at all that she was not feeling good at the school and wanted to leave. Ricky could've helped her with that, but had no way of knowing since she never told him.
      Now, yes, Ricky did something stupid, never said he wasn't bad either. He told Nini that she should come back for him. This was gross, I definitely didn't like that. Though again, instead of telling him how she was feeling about this, she just didn't communicate at all and led Ricky to believe that she actually came back because of him. But then she didn't really wanna spend all that much time with him (because of him wanting her back with him), which he didn't know, cause again, didn't communicate. Instead he's left wondering what he did wrong and becomes pretty frustrated. Especially when he wants her in the show, but she doesn't want to do that. And in a desperate attempt of spending more time with her, which she doesn't really want but hasn't communicated, he brings her into the show as the rose.
      Both already kind of frustrated but not communicating, Nini has to write a song for both. But instead of doing that, she writes one for herself, through which she lets her frustrations about Ricky out instead of just telling him. Ricky, being surprised by this being a solo song is feeling threatened, which he should've communicated, but tbh I just don't think he felt safe enough to do this with her, since she didn't communicate at all even though Ricky was trying to. And he did something even more stupid in I guess an attempt to save the relationship and deleted the comment. The intent was there I guess, but it was a really dumb thing to do.
      And then it just all fell apart afterwards. Nini pretty much wanted to do the exact same thing Ricky did back then and wanted a break. Ricky noticing that she just didn't feel connected to him anymore instead broke up with her, even though it broke him as well.
      At the end, yes, they were both in the wrong, but I understand Ricky's intentions a little better than Nini's, since it was mostly in reply to her lack of communication.
      What I really hate about all this was Nini in the first season singing of "I won't fight for love if you won't meet me halfway" and then just doing the exact opposite of it in season 2. Hate how they completely botched not just her but so many characters in Season 2. It's like they were regressing instead of progressing.

    • @imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs
      @imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs Рік тому +82

      @@danielmarkovicthis was incredible wow but yeah to summarise it: they were an unhealthy couple no matter how u try to slice it. It’s really obv and tho we live rini, it prob wouldn’t have worked out

    • @June_slayy
      @June_slayy Рік тому

      Yeah I Litterallt hate her

    • @mixerscarlet9762
      @mixerscarlet9762 Рік тому +10

      ​@@danielmarkovicno one is reading this damn essay

  • @reycarter6284
    @reycarter6284 Рік тому +2230

    i feel like she is the female equivalent of the 'nice guy', who when you look deeper has a lot of issues, I think its the way they wrote her, she was obviously the focal point of the show, so they let her get away with a lot without holding her accountable, yes you can make your mains flawed, but its clearly written in a way where they don't seem to be doing that intentionally, she never really learns a lesson whereas some like Gina who was antagonistic intially ends up having a of growth, I honestly wish they didn't cancel it, the writing was actually starting to get more interesting

    • @Beny763
      @Beny763 Рік тому +151

      Ricky is a good example of a flawed main too. He clearly has abandonment issues and stuff to work through, but he actually acknowledges that and grows over the course of the series.
      And I agree, I wish they would have given us atleast one more season, they still would have had half a year until they graduate right? And even then, seeing them move on to college and continue to grow would have been fun. But it is what it is.

    • @UnBesoDeCristal
      @UnBesoDeCristal Рік тому +15

      He literally asked for a break and saw other girls then started trying to ruin her new relationship, then deleted a comment about a music showcase because he was insecure? Sure shes the problem. Misogyny mental gymnastics are so funny .

    • @UnBesoDeCristal
      @UnBesoDeCristal Рік тому +1

      ​@@Beny763He barely changes throughout the series lol

    • @Beny763
      @Beny763 Рік тому +83

      @@UnBesoDeCristal Sure, that´s why you could only mention examples from season 1 and 2. He respected Gina and EJs relationship in season 3, actively decided against telling her about his feelings, he learned to cope better with change, he actually communicated his insecurities in season 4 about Mack, but sure, he "barely changed"

    • @pinkplayer1239
      @pinkplayer1239 Рік тому +39

      ⁠@@UnBesoDeCristalyou barely change your replies. Instead of copying and pasting the same reply on multiple comments of people sharing their opinions create something new for a change. I know you can do it!

  • @star_baker
    @star_baker Рік тому +2320

    They put her in so many layers… true Disney style

    • @kamoko6295
      @kamoko6295 Рік тому +72

      It's definitely giving bizaardvark💀

  • @artbyL31
    @artbyL31 Рік тому +2638

    I never realized how self absorbed she was in season 1 and 2, wow

    • @hannahwilliams7679
      @hannahwilliams7679 Рік тому +11

      Same

    • @UnBesoDeCristal
      @UnBesoDeCristal Рік тому +40

      He literally asked for a break and saw other girls then started trying to ruin her new relationship, then deleted a comment about a music showcase because he was insecure? Sure shes the problem. Misogyny mental gymnastics are so funny .

    • @maddyb4501
      @maddyb4501 Рік тому +101

      @@UnBesoDeCristalshe never communicated. Not saying she was completely at fault I’d say they contributed to their relationship failing. He was too clingy and insecure in the relationship and she never communicated. Glad he’s with Gina, they’re more compatible, both want something stable and she likes his clinginess

    • @June_slayy
      @June_slayy Рік тому +2

      Litterally!! Y’all I been tryna tell ppl this for so long

    • @bigonbooks4736
      @bigonbooks4736 Рік тому +8

      I was legit so glad when she left but mad she didn’t come back for the “For Good” part at the end of season 4.

  • @conortague5410
    @conortague5410 Рік тому +3122

    After watching this, I’m so glad Ricky ended up with Gina.

    • @lusy03362
      @lusy03362 Рік тому +141

      Yes , Gina was the right choice :)

    • @UnBesoDeCristal
      @UnBesoDeCristal Рік тому +59

      He literally asked for a break and saw other girls then started trying to ruin her new relationship, then deleted a comment about a music showcase because he was insecure? Sure shes the problem. Misogyny mental gymnastics are so funny .

    • @jatkol123
      @jatkol123 Рік тому +217

      @@UnBesoDeCristalthe amount of times you have commented this is crazyyy, both ricky and nini had flaws. acknowledging nini’s flaws doesn’t mean we think ricky is perfect. the show never delved into ninis flaws and allowed her to learn from them whereas with ricky they did. this is just a funny video, don’t take it too seriously

    • @triniteejes
      @triniteejes Рік тому +64

      @@UnBesoDeCristalnobody is blaming her for everything, it’s just they don’t work as a couple. Both of them were the problem in the relationship

    • @soofiasiddiqui7160
      @soofiasiddiqui7160 Рік тому +26

      the show became literal shit when nini left💀

  • @Chanel_ml
    @Chanel_ml Рік тому +1351

    I shouldnt be so happy to have found this video but.......FINALLY YES FINALLY. Its been so lonely defending Ricky and calling Nini out on the things she did by myself.

    • @mya1256
      @mya1256 Рік тому +97

      U ain’t lying 😭 especially with the “Nini loved him! They were better together” I’m like- Nini was bashing him most the time even though she knew what he was going through…Gina was always there supporting him and she had tremendous growth

    • @Chanel_ml
      @Chanel_ml Рік тому +54

      @@mya1256 YES SHE WAS THE PERSON THAT DEGRADED HIM AND KNOCKED HIM DOWN THE MOST. Its like everytime he tried to show his love for her or be her BOYFRIEND she calls him clingy and unreliable like wtf. DOINT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THE I LOVE U THING. I get her being sad and what not but holding a grudge against somebody u "love" just because they werent ready to say i love you back is.......lets just say if my bf did that to me i would be pissed. I just caint believe that whole situation he said several times he wasnt ready to say it and that he was beating himself up over it. We as the audience and the people who actually love him know that to be true. Anyways im so glad he is healthier, happier, and in love with the girl that was always there for him. I hate that Nini gaslighted him and made him feel like garbage just for trying to be a better person or bf for her. I litteraly have loved Ricky from the moment he was introduced so this upsets me alot lol sorry for getting worked up. OH AND HIS PARENTS WERE SPLITTING UP AND SHE COULDNT- SHE DIDNT EVEN- UGH lemme go before i have a heart attack. Also sorry for the lack of punctuation im just an idiot venting.

    • @mya1256
      @mya1256 Рік тому +28

      @@Chanel_ml bro your are fineeee I completely understand the rant because I feel the same way 😭😭 every time he tried it was always something wrong with herrrr. Like she wasn’t grateful for anything except that music career ☠️ josh himself said he’s glad Ricky is in a healthy relationship now in an interview. Ricky and Gina have a mutual understanding and love for each other. It’s understandable why Ricky didn’t say I love you to Nini at that moment, and me personally I would never post I love you on social media to somebody ☠️ that’s why I love when in “love you forever” Ricky said “I’ll say it first no matter what the cost, here I am full heart, full stop…I love you” it was so special because when they first met, Gina told him “maybe you don’t love her (Nini), full stop.” But here he’s saying he knows he loves Gina and he’s gonna let her KNOW. 😭😭 Gina always supported him, told him to do what would make him happy. Nini was triggered by everything ☠️

    • @UnBesoDeCristal
      @UnBesoDeCristal Рік тому

      He literally asked for a break and saw other girls then started trying to ruin her new relationship, then deleted a comment about a music showcase because he was insecure? Sure shes the problem. Misogyny mental gymnastics are so funny .

    • @mya1256
      @mya1256 Рік тому +19

      @@UnBesoDeCristal i can understand that, ricky did do wrong, but she also could’ve understood what all was happening in his life. I would want a break too if I wasn’t ready to say I love you back to someone because I wasn’t ready for the commitment. For crying out loud, like he said in the show, “it’s hard to say that when your own parents don’t say it anymore” or along those lines. But all in all it doesn’t really matter because they’re fake characters so ☠️ but I understand where you’re coming from

  • @sta._rina
    @sta._rina Рік тому +1126

    it always bugged me that everyone acted like Ricky was OBLIGATED to say I love you back. Like…. bro wasn’t ready. If u were his FRIEND u wouldn’t pressure him like that and put him on the spot fr. yea he didn’t take it well but out of ALL PEOPLE *nini* should’ve known why he wouldn’t say it back. and nini gaslighting him about the song is crazy 😭😭

    • @pokemonfan7211
      @pokemonfan7211 9 місяців тому +43

      not to mention his parents have probably been on the brink of divorce for years, and have never said 'i love you' to each other

    • @shataysianelson9414
      @shataysianelson9414 5 місяців тому +6

      Flashback to Gilmore girls
      Dean tells Rory he loves her he gets mad and breaks up with her and they only get back together after she says it back

    • @LuciaCisme
      @LuciaCisme 4 місяці тому

      @@shataysianelson9414OMG I WAS LITERALLY THINKING THAT ALSOOO JOSHUAS CONCERT IS TOP TEIR sorry ik that had like nothing to do with this but i had to say it 😭

    • @lovetahsin
      @lovetahsin 3 місяці тому

      @@shataysianelson9414PLSKDKDJEMDK

  • @handsomemahlambi
    @handsomemahlambi Рік тому +740

    Now thinking about it
    The toxic character (not person, CHARACTER) left and the show became a little more wholesome

    • @BunniesSakura45
      @BunniesSakura45 Рік тому +39

      ​@@gutsliviaThe show better without her the storylines and love interest.

    • @muffinator1239
      @muffinator1239 Рік тому +26

      @@gutsliviait definitely didn’t flop since it got 2 more seasons after she left 💀.

    • @muffinator1239
      @muffinator1239 Рік тому +12

      @@gutslivia she was barely in season 3

    • @muffinator1239
      @muffinator1239 Рік тому +19

      @@gutslivia very much not true. It’s okay if you’re an Olivia stan. But there’s no need to lie to defend her character as if she’s personally going to thank you.

    • @muffinator1239
      @muffinator1239 Рік тому +9

      @@gutslivia you’re not an olivia Stan but you’re the only one in the comments defending her infuriating character? Yeah okay

  • @thylionheart
    @thylionheart Рік тому +522

    fr when Nini told Mama C that she’s had “the worst day ever” after Mama C very directly implied that his mom was leaving his family and things were bad enough that her moms were letting him stay over, I lost a looooot of respect for Nini

    • @giuliac9735
      @giuliac9735 Рік тому +10

      Why? Because she was being self centered as most teens? And I don't think she even knew about his mom then... She is one of my least favourite characters but I am not seeing anything "wrong" there... I do love her mom's response though!

    • @thylionheart
      @thylionheart Рік тому +43

      @@giuliac9735 actually up until Homecoming, I still shipped Ricky and Nini. I thought her talk with Ricky on the couch was cute and it was my favorite moment in the show until Homecoming. I was hoping that moment of self-centerness that made me lose some respect for her would be regained through her improving as a character and as a friend and eventual girlfriend (again) with Ricky. But she didn’t. Her words to Ricky that night (“you can always talk to me about anything”) were consistently proven dead wrong again and again and she kept being self-centered and selfish. So I never got that respect back, and when I rewatch that scene with the knowledge of things she says and does later on in the show, it is a very frustrating and irritating scene. Because it wasn’t just one time. It was evidence of a consistent pattern for Nini’s behavior and attitude.
      For example, I lost a lot of respect for EJ in season one through his actions, like stealing Nini’s phone. He regained it in season 2 when he treated Gina well and then lost it in season 3, even though I never stopped wanting to see him improve as a character. I absolutely adored EJ in season 4 and he fully regained all my respect back. Edit: Unfortunately, Nini didn’t have a similarly redemptive or satisfying arc that showed her grow from a self-centered person to a more selfless person like EJ did. By the end of her run as a character, all of her plots were just about her, and her alone. And I’m not that interested in a character who is so excised from the rest of the characters. Every other character on this show has at one point functioned not to elevate their own character, but someone else’s. That’s most of EJ’s function in s4. He is there to help Ricky, the show, and Gina. We get a sliver of what he’s doing in college, but not much. But Nini, in season 3, didn’t even reunite with all her friends before leaving for California for good. She left letters but her function in season 3 was solely, utterly for herself alone. And I find that so absolutely boring, when everyone else is so intertwined and when the core theme of the show by the end is community, family, and belonging.

    • @giuliac9735
      @giuliac9735 Рік тому +16

      @@thylionheart yes, I totally agree. That's why she is not one of my favourites either, but I think her "journey" was of self discovery and "being enough" for herself, which is something she (and Olivia in her songs let be honest) champions throughout the show. I guess that can sometimes being taken as selfish, but it's a fine line.. maybe it was not handled well... I never rewatched the whole show, just snippets so I didn't catch all her inconsistencies but I see why you would have lost respect for that, I still find it very human, and normal, but not something I would stan in a character either.

    • @thylionheart
      @thylionheart Рік тому +23

      @@giuliac9735 I think that’s what the writers were trying to go for, but the problem is that we don’t know much about Nini as a character prior to the start of this journey, and we see her experiencing a lot of privilege in her journey, with her main obstacles being an internal struggle that seems to show that she takes these privileges for granted, without understanding that she’s essentially been given handouts the entire narrative.
      What I mean by that is this: Nini’s core struggle in season 1 was her wanting to go to an art school and being torn about leaving Salt Lake City. She didn’t have agency in the decision to have the Dean at the play-Kourtney called the Dean. Nini did not take that risk or make that choice for herself. Even though her acting in the play was terrible, wooden, and cringy, especially compared to all the other performances we’ve seen on this show, she got the school offer. We didn’t get to watch Nini toil over practicing her scenes after taking a risk to contact the Dean herself or see her act her ass off in the performance to make a good impression-if we’d seen that, this offer would’ve felt earned.
      So then she goes to an expensive acting school, even saying that her moms are working hard to send her there. Private schools like that often require you to pay a year’s worth of tuition upfront, or at least a majority of it. But Nini isn’t even there for a month before she calls it quits. And since she’s only there for I think a little less than half the season, it comes across as a half-asses attempt and like she’s taking the opportunity that she didn’t earn for granted.
      Then, instead of making Nini an ensemble member because she wasn’t there for auditions, like would be the norm, Miss Jenn goes out of her way to invent a whole new role for Nini as The Rose, giving her a prominent visual role. She even lets her write a song about it (even tho later we find out they can’t perform that song anyways without getting disqualified.) When Nini writes the song, she sends a recording of it to Ashlyn and says not to share it with anyone yet, or with Ricky. But Carlos posts it online without her permission and it goes viral. So once again, Nini’s success was not her own choice or her taking a risk. Someone else facilitated it for her.
      Everyone knows the song is about Ricky. People keep asking Ricky if he’s okay. Nini even told Ashlyn not to share the song with Ricky, because she knew it was about him. But when he expresses how the song hurt his feelings because it vilified him, she gaslights him by trying to say it’s not about him and it’s just a song. That’s not a healthy way to treat your bf/gf and this is later addressed during the breakup scene. But the resentment and anger that Nini harbored in that episode was so deeply uncomfortable to watch because she kept looking at Ricky with this…disdain, almost, like she didn’t even like him as a person. It’s very interesting to see that Nini’s song going viral seemed to foster such a negative and toxic side of her to the point where I think those episodes are the most bitter and angry she’s ever looked-and it’s supposed to be the start of her Fully Knowing Herself.
      When she finds out she can’t perform the Rose Song, she says they should do it anyway even though the club would be disqualified. Aka, she doesn’t care that everyone else in the club, who wants to win and who has been working hard, would be screwed over if it means her song gets to be in the spotlight. That is incredibly selfish. When the dance off begins, she calls it stupid (or something like that) and just…walks off. Doesn’t participate. Abandons the club and her friends. That’s the moment where it’s clear that Nini is absolutely contrary to the entire theme of the show, which by the end is resolutely about community, acceptance, and belonging. Nini doesn’t care about community. Her journey is only about herself, and in a show about community, that results in her receiving benefit after benefit from that community (Kourtney, her moms, Miss Jenn, Carlos, Gina-which I’m gonna talk about next) and not giving anything back. She takes from the community but stops participating in it.
      Gina is the one who gives Nini the connection to her producer brother. Once again, it’s not a risk or choice Nini makes. It is handed to her, on a silver platter, after 2 entire seasons of her being passive aggressive to Gina. Nini’s journey is supposed to he about self-discovery, except she hardly does anything to earn it. Everything is handed to her, and she just gets the option of accepting or rejecting it without consequences for herself and without having to actively do anything risky. Yes, she wrote the Rose song, but she didn’t decide to post it online. Carlos did. She didn’t reach out to music producers. Gina gave her a contact. Etc etc etc.
      Funnily enough, my favorite Nini song in the entire show is Out Of The Old. I recognized what they were wanting to do with Nini in season 1 and I thought it was interesting. That song is a good thesis statement for her character, but it wasn’t executed well in the long run.
      Edit: I didn’t talk about season 3 bc I don’t remember her scenes well enough; I found them boring and extremely removed from the core drama that I actually was invested in

    • @giuliac9735
      @giuliac9735 Рік тому +18

      @@thylionheart now that you mention all the things people did for her without consulting her, made me realise she only got angry with Ricky for it, when literally everybody does that! Kourtney with the scholarship, Carlos with posting the song online, but somehow Ricky is the only one who went "behind her back" by getting her the rose role.. I understand they had other issues as well, but it's still interesting..
      It's a shame what they did to her character..

  • @beans27_
    @beans27_ Рік тому +629

    i was so scared to say i didn't like nini, im so glad others agree
    like she literally doesn't care about anyone but herself i cant with her😭😭

    • @June_slayy
      @June_slayy Рік тому +4

      I’m not. I don’t like Nini and I especially don’t like Gina

    • @caitlingill
      @caitlingill Рік тому +3

      She’s like Rachel from Glee

    • @gutslivia
      @gutslivia Рік тому +2

      she’s the only one that cares about the other characters but sure

    • @karlacalonia825
      @karlacalonia825 Рік тому +12

      ​@@gutslivia i'm convinced you haven't watched the show and try so hard to push the narrative that she's selfless because honestly everyone cares for each other in this show. without nini being around, they were still family and still looked out for each other. so i don't know where you came from with that "she's the only one that cared about others" because that is SOOO funny.

    • @gutslivia
      @gutslivia Рік тому +1

      @@karlacalonia825 they all cheated on each other 💀💀

  • @lilbrownbear
    @lilbrownbear Рік тому +853

    GURRLLLL THANK YOU FOR THIS. nini is literally the worst most under developed main character in history i swear and it AGGREVATES me that her stans put her up on this high ass pedestal like she's a damn saint

    • @UnBesoDeCristal
      @UnBesoDeCristal Рік тому +10

      He literally asked for a break and saw other girls then started trying to ruin her new relationship, then deleted a comment about a music showcase because he was insecure? Sure shes the problem. Misogyny mental gymnastics are so funny .

    • @stanbtsforaclearskin
      @stanbtsforaclearskin Рік тому +48

      ​@@UnBesoDeCristal funny how u reply this to every comment lmao Ricky had mistakes but atleast got better and some background to make them understandable, Nini was a bitch for no reason.

    • @disneychannelamv1214
      @disneychannelamv1214 Рік тому +20

      Ppl act like that just because it’s Olivia Rodrigo 💀

    • @jaleahmckinney7828
      @jaleahmckinney7828 Рік тому +24

      @@disneychannelamv1214no she’s just a really terrible character I love Olivia but Nina annoyed me throughout season 1 & 2

    • @disneychannelamv1214
      @disneychannelamv1214 Рік тому +2

      @@jaleahmckinney7828 no i was talkin about that ppl love her just because it’s Olivia

  • @lia.lovely
    @lia.lovely Рік тому +301

    I always thought it was Ricky bc the seasons was so long ago but it was her 💀

    • @elishasli
      @elishasli Рік тому +4

      Pls sameee

    • @timleonhart7085
      @timleonhart7085 Рік тому +50

      Honestly it was probably a little of both of them they just weren’t as compatible as they thought they were

    • @imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs
      @imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs Рік тому +29

      Ricky had many flaws but at least he tried to work on them. Nini didn’t if I remember correctly. Not saying Ricky is perfect but he tries

    • @teehee3657
      @teehee3657 Рік тому +34

      Ricky was flawed, he had his problems. The only difference is he held himself accountable and started to grow.

    • @gutslivia
      @gutslivia Рік тому

      y’all just hate women

  • @teehee3657
    @teehee3657 Рік тому +353

    Her trying to flush her PROM DRESS down the toilet was so.....😭😭

    • @xo-mariam-xo
      @xo-mariam-xo Рік тому +4

      it’s homecoming so not as important ig..?

    • @NatGeodeWild
      @NatGeodeWild Рік тому +22

      that made me so unecesarrily mad like... Donate it??? Hello??? That was a perfectly good dress someone else could have used!

  • @jemocaya8898
    @jemocaya8898 Рік тому +368

    Yeah, imo it seems to be the case that the writing of Nini's character actually (probably unintentionally) paints her as a character who is bad when you actually think about it. They play up her pettiness for comedy like when she steals Gina's shoes and projecting to those bystanders.
    My guess is that Nini was supposed to be what Rachel Berry was to Glee (but not as bad to fit the wholesome theater kid vibe the show was going for): a talented, comically ambitious, self-centered girl who dresses weirdly and the balance between making her a wholesome character while still a talented girl boss was not achieved. It was probably better achieved in the other female characters. Olivia's acting and her being the mc for the first season probably played a part in making her more likeable despite this.

    • @UnBesoDeCristal
      @UnBesoDeCristal Рік тому +4

      He literally asked for a break and saw other girls then started trying to ruin her new relationship, then deleted a comment about a music showcase because he was insecure? Sure shes the problem. Misogyny mental gymnastics are so funny .

    • @jemocaya8898
      @jemocaya8898 Рік тому +17

      ​@@UnBesoDeCristal I never said Nini was the problem, just that she's not as pure a character as I had initially thought she was since the points in the video are pretty valid. She had a a few moments where she was pretty self-centered (not wanting when she just learned that Ricky's parents had split up recently) and hypocritical (getting annoyed at Ricky for not taking rehearsal seriously then ad libbing during rehearsal with him). While I do believe some of the other things in the video are more nitpicks on her character than anything, I believe the moment's I mentioned are valid reasons to think she is a bad character.
      That is not to say that the other characters have the best character either. The moments you mentioned with Ricky are also valid reasons to think he is a bad character. His insecurity leading to the comment deletion and the loss of an opportunity for Nini. Gina is even more so written to be comically ambitious than Nini with her coming up with an incredibly difficult dance routine for Nini. Miscommunication is also a problem with most characters especially in the first few seasons.
      None of them are perfect, and that is a part of what makes them interesting characters. They play up their flaws for comedy and drama. It's just that Nini's flaws are less obvious because of her mc status in the earlier seasons and Olivia's acting makes her out to be likeable quirky character. While Ricky's deletion of that comment, EJ's deletion of Ricky's voice message, Ashlyn's assumption that Big Red must want more than a labor job, (S4 Spoiler Warning) -Seb's- -cheating- , and probably more I missed are shown as bad things in the narrative, a lot of Olivia's actions like not properly apologizing for stealing Gina's shoes and the aforementioned are easy to brush past as not her flaws for the reason's I had stated. I'm sure other instances also exist where other characters do things played up for comedy/drama which would actually make them a bad character if you actually look at them but this video highlights Nini's instances.
      TLDR. Just because I said Nini as a character can be pretty bad, doesn't mean that the other characters can't also be bad. The cast all have flaws which makes their characters more interesting, but Nini's flaws are less obvious because of the way the show frames them as her being quirky in early season's and Olivia doing a good job acting as her and making her likeable.

    • @teehee3657
      @teehee3657 Рік тому +16

      @@UnBesoDeCristal This doesn't take away from the fact that she was toxic (so was Ricky, Gina, and EJ). Don't get me wrong, I liked Nini but she had her issues. She was self-centered (which would be fine if she wasn't in a relationship IMO) , she was really bad with communication, and she was petty. In Season 2, she refused to be honest with Ricky about her feelings which is BAD in a relationship, she brushed him off like their relationship wasn't important to her. With characters like Ricky, EJ, and Gina, we saw them grow and hold themselves accountable, we never saw that with Nini. The show acts like she's innocent instead of letting her acknowledge her flaws and improving. Maybe this is something we could've seen in future seasons if Olivia stayed on but I doubt it.

    • @sillywilly_08
      @sillywilly_08 Рік тому +11

      @@UnBesoDeCristalbro I’ve seen this comment three times already 😭

    • @Person_on_the_Earth
      @Person_on_the_Earth Рік тому

      ​@@UnBesoDeCristaljust shut up and write something new

  • @handsomemahlambi
    @handsomemahlambi Рік тому +365

    People like her bc she’s played by Olivia
    If it was someone less known, they would see her (the character) for who she is

    • @teehee3657
      @teehee3657 Рік тому +28

      People liked her before Olivia blew up tho lol

    • @zvideosz
      @zvideosz Рік тому +19

      honestly when i watched hsmtmts it wasnt bc olivia was in it, and i never rly made the connection

    • @disneychannelamv1214
      @disneychannelamv1214 Рік тому +10

      ⁠@@teehee3657 No, she was not the most liked character in the series, not many people talked about her as now

    • @soleekgives
      @soleekgives Рік тому +1

      literally.

    • @June_slayy
      @June_slayy Рік тому +6

      I never liked her or Olivia rodrigo

  • @liaistotallyfine
    @liaistotallyfine Рік тому +285

    this is why I don't get Rini stans, like, that relationship was awful. Nini only wanted him back when she saw that he was interested in Gina, then she immediately didn't tell him that she was moving away KNOWING he has abandonment issues, and then she completely blocked all attempts at communication initiated by Ricky (yes, he was clinging but it's understandable given that Nini literally did not talk to him at all). Like, the only time their relationship was good was in the few days between them getting back and the start of season 2. So we didn't even SEE their relationship being good or healthy (not to mention that she was actively hiding important information even during the "good time"). And yet people continue to go to war for this ship like it's their mission....
    Nah, Rina all the way

    • @soleekgives
      @soleekgives Рік тому +19

      rini stans are mostly kids

    • @emmaspydevoldjohansen9725
      @emmaspydevoldjohansen9725 Рік тому +8

      It was 3 years ago please but you know when I was 13 I didn’t think about that stuff but now that I watch it again it is insane hahaha but you now she is still a cutie when she wants too and I love Olivia soo probably why o liked her! But now I like Gina and Ricky so much more because of the build up for. Them being together after all!!

    • @lunarspace1196
      @lunarspace1196 Рік тому +9

      I think it takes some time to notice bc ppl love the show and probably loved rini so much they couldn't see more. cause i didn't realize how toxic they were until this year with all the Rina edits and stuff. I notice Ricky and Gina were better

    • @KrystalBailey019
      @KrystalBailey019 2 місяці тому

      Rina is better than rini but portwell is better than rina for me if Olivia didn’t leave rina would of never happened, they set up portwell to fail just so Ricky can get a gf

    • @ittzjasminem2227
      @ittzjasminem2227 7 днів тому

      I actually think that it's a test of the relationship as to how much you love the other person when you see them with someone else but Nini is very self-absorbed and literally only thinks abt herself I did think she also missed Ricky but I guess we'll never know they writers were unclear maybe she missed him or maybe she was just jealous of Gina? We'll never know.

  • @ExaggerationQueen
    @ExaggerationQueen Рік тому +198

    I never understood why she said I love you for the first time to her boyfriend for the whole world to see on the internet. It’s not very special. I’d be hesitant to say it too.
    Edit: And her apologies are never really considered apologies.

    • @Lalaland666-k3x
      @Lalaland666-k3x 11 місяців тому +12

      I consider what she did is a type of love bombing

  • @karynalovesyou4615
    @karynalovesyou4615 Рік тому +664

    THANK YOU FOR THIS SHE WAS THE WORST. So self absorbed, she made everything about herself consistently.
    Edit: just saying it now it's clear some people never think critically about the media they consume. To me, Nini is a poorly written, unlikable character. Just because someone is a protagonist does not mean you have to like them. Even if you disagree with this the video pretty clearly shows why one could dislike her.

  • @Beny763
    @Beny763 Рік тому +152

    I used to "like" her in season 1, or atleast I was blind to her flaws since she was the main character next to Ricky.
    But ever since season 2 I couldn´t stand her! She is so self absorbed while also being incredibly bland and boring. Honestly she should have been gone after season 2 already, her scenes in season 3 are completely pointless and I always skip the whole thing with her dad, because what´s the point? Her goodbye in season 3 is kinda ok I guess, but that´s it.
    And oh my god, her relationship with Ricky! How were they EVER friends?! She is unable to show compassion and empathy, and she doesn´t understand why Ricky has the issues he has despite allegedly knowing him so well. She is just the worst.

    • @lizziexbieberx44_
      @lizziexbieberx44_ Рік тому

      I agree completely

    • @bananaxoonana8131
      @bananaxoonana8131 Рік тому +8

      I THOUGHT I WAS HALLUCINATING IN SEASON 2
      i could not stand nini whenever she made an interaction with ricky. i thought it was just the writers creating conflict, and i never considered her toxic.

    • @Beny763
      @Beny763 Рік тому +5

      @@bananaxoonana8131 In some ways I appreciate season 2 and how completely Ricky and Nini as a couple crashed and burned, it showed us very well that it wasn´t just that one moment pre-season 1 with Ricky not saying I love you.
      Both of them, at the point they are in season 2, just SUCK at communicating.
      It just paints Nini infinitely worse than Ricky because atleast Ricky TRIED to talk through stuff with her. And she was kinda gaslighting him and making him into the issue

    • @caitlingill
      @caitlingill Рік тому +1

      She’s like Rachel from Glee

  • @danasiaj2853
    @danasiaj2853 Рік тому +460

    i’ve been saying i’m glad she started a singing career. bc her acting wasn’t that great and nini was insufferable. she literally had no development.

    • @trishas594
      @trishas594 Рік тому +12

      nini or olivia?

    • @emillee-raine
      @emillee-raine Рік тому +125

      I think Olivia was a good actress but Nini as not a good actress on the show

    • @UnBesoDeCristal
      @UnBesoDeCristal Рік тому +20

      He literally asked for a break and saw other girls then started trying to ruin her new relationship, then deleted a comment about a music showcase because he was insecure? Sure shes the problem. Misogyny mental gymnastics are so funny .

    • @emillee-raine
      @emillee-raine Рік тому +70

      @@UnBesoDeCristal they were both the problem, but people haven't talked about Nini's part in it until recently. It isn't misogyny it's about holding both sides accountable.

    • @imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs
      @imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs Рік тому

      @@UnBesoDeCristaloh shut up already we get it. If u had said this once I would have tried to explain nicely but it’s getting kinda annoying buddy

  • @fabianfleitas5499
    @fabianfleitas5499 Рік тому +321

    I'm glad she left. Gina was far more likeable and interesting.

    • @soleekgives
      @soleekgives Рік тому +26

      fr healthy gf over toxic one any day

    • @June_slayy
      @June_slayy Рік тому +3

      Gina is my least fav charecter and Nini is my second least fav. When Nini left the show should have moved on to it being ab Kourtney instead of Gina

    • @soleekgives
      @soleekgives Рік тому +25

      @@June_slayy Gina has a good storyline tho she it makes sense why they would focus on her and tbf they kind of share the spotlight after nini left kourtney kind of ook over as well as gina.

    • @muffinator1239
      @muffinator1239 Рік тому +2

      Yeah Gina has much more depth to her character.

    • @Lexie955
      @Lexie955 Рік тому +8

      @@June_slayyeven when Gina was the lead other people shined. Kourtney actually got a storyline not centered around a boy and was very relatable. Gina was the lead but it wasn’t always about her problems and she helped people and let them shine

  • @blesso5327
    @blesso5327 Рік тому +144

    She never apologizes! She has horrible communication and she was so self centred (I know teens can be that way but she never acknowledges her wrong doings or tries to grow in any way)! I wanted to like her character but she’s way too unlikable! Thank you for this video!

    • @blesso5327
      @blesso5327 Рік тому +1

      @@gutslivia how? Explain in detail!

    • @muffinator1239
      @muffinator1239 11 місяців тому +4

      you're just a nini stan trying to make ricky and gina look bad. typical@@gutslivia

    • @nicloren2220
      @nicloren2220 4 місяці тому

      ​@@gutsliviaboth their parents ? and emotionally cheating is not a thing . 😂

  • @LouisaRubyDDD
    @LouisaRubyDDD Рік тому +157

    …Am I feeling sympathy for Ricky Bowen? Wow this is insane.

  • @laatera.988
    @laatera.988 Рік тому +216

    No let’s really talk about how nini really cheated on ricky fr cause ik it was ricky’s idea to TAKE A BREAK… but when you take a break in a relationship your still together it’s basically a separation in a marriage but anyways she literally cheated on him with ej and then turned around and stole him from gina cause as soon as she heard gina was leaving she pounced like a damn dog

    • @pink4lr
      @pink4lr Рік тому +23

      OMGGG I LITERALLY SAID THIS YESTERDAY AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY MEE, HE SAID A BREAK AND THEN SHE JUST GETS WITH ANOTHER GUY?

    • @posingnpuns
      @posingnpuns Рік тому +38

      In the first episode he literally talks about how he saw other girls over the summer they were apart?? If getting with EJ counts as cheating then so does that lmaooo

    • @laatera.988
      @laatera.988 Рік тому +7

      @@posingnpuns ik they both cheated on each other

    • @iciarmorcillo
      @iciarmorcillo Рік тому +26

      @@posingnpuns he said he hung out with some girls but he talked about nini the entire time so he probably didn't even make out with them like i wouldn't kiss/make out/whatever with a guy that talks about his ex???girlfriend constantly

    • @disneychannelamv1214
      @disneychannelamv1214 Рік тому +14

      @@posingnpunshe said he was only talkin about Nini to them

  • @indecisive.325
    @indecisive.325 Рік тому +28

    The comment section should be called "Teenage fans of a series aimed at teenagers realize teenagers are insufferable because we're all immature and don't know how to handle other people's emotions, let alone our own"

  • @genny5758
    @genny5758 Рік тому +92

    you're so real for this, thank you!! every point made in this video is SO true and omg yes nini was actually the biggest nuisance. i'm so happy i'm not the only one to find her truly intolerable.

  • @emmasch
    @emmasch Рік тому +113

    If Nini's outfits were on anyone other then Olivia Rodrigo, they would make me have to turn off the show

    • @imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs
      @imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs Рік тому +4

      Ok I think nini was pretty toxic but what’s up with her outfits? I thought they were pretty nice?

    • @zvideosz
      @zvideosz Рік тому +9

      @@imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs ngl lots of them were horrible, but lots were nicer, and i dont think the outfits shown are all trash

    • @kezyapineda3256
      @kezyapineda3256 Рік тому +3

      I think they were going for a Rachel Berry kind of vibe but man some episodes I was asking myself "does the stylist hate her that much??" i swear to god the other girls from the cast they may have been side characters in comparison to nini but they were dressed way better

  • @zandermars0
    @zandermars0 Рік тому +23

    HONESTLY I WAS SO GLAD WHEN SHE WAS GONE, THE SHOW GOT SO MUCH BETTER

  • @Mar-lk5pp
    @Mar-lk5pp Рік тому +69

    Thank you, I thought I hallucinated that Nini was self centered after seeing quite a few posts that Ricky and Nini should’ve been endgame. Absolutely no hate to Olivia, I love her, but damn Nini was a menace. The sheer number of times she gaslit Ricky is outstanding 😂

  • @pink4lr
    @pink4lr Рік тому +65

    She was so hypocritical by telling ricky and literally jumping on him for taking things not professional but in opening night she couldn’t even keep professional when ricky wasnt troy and then obviously the scene you showed in the rehearsal.
    And she doesn’t know how to apologise, is self absorbed, and literally didnt care abt ricky and his problems but she only decided to care when gina and ricky came together for thanksgiving?

  • @starrysebbie
    @starrysebbie Рік тому +84

    i’ve found my people

    • @planetdrool
      @planetdrool 5 місяців тому

      oh ur one of them annoying jatp stan's yeah this is why that flop ass show got cancelled

  • @louisecoyne-patel9464
    @louisecoyne-patel9464 6 місяців тому +6

    just typical teenage girl behaviour towards someone who broke her heart especially someone she was still in love with. And all of the scene's in the second season are just her trying to be her own person without hurting him people make mistakes sometimes.

  • @katherinepulitzer586
    @katherinepulitzer586 Рік тому +9

    FRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR They did Olivia so dirty with the way Nini was written😭

  • @mxn4719
    @mxn4719 Рік тому +31

    Tbf Nini was at YAC for over a month. From January 1st to February 13th (tho wouldn’t officially decide to leave YAC until the following week)

    •  Рік тому +7

      wow a month and 12 days

    • @zvideosz
      @zvideosz Рік тому

      u can get pissed off quite easily and know its not the place for u in 6 weeks @

  • @ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112
    @ultimatedisneycruiselinefa5112 Рік тому +71

    Not gonna lie, I really loved Nini. Problematic or not, she was really funny. I know there may have been some toxic relationship problems between them in the next season’s second half, but in spite of that, I would’ve granted another chance whether it was bumpy or not! I’m really upset she left.

    • @imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs
      @imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs Рік тому +8

      Problem is she did not improve at all. In season 2, she kinda lost spirit? At least that’s how I saw it. I could tell she wanted to go do her own thing. And I’m sure we all kinda could. I’m glad she had a little farewell. Would have been nice if she said goodbye but her story was definitely over

    • @teehee3657
      @teehee3657 Рік тому +13

      ​ @@imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs I think Olivia's music success ruined Nini's potential as a character. Not blaming Olivia (I love her music and glad she found success) but it feels like the show just brushed off any future storyline for Nini in the middle of the season and started preparing for her exit. It also seemed like Olivia herself had checked out towards the end of the season.

    • @zvideosz
      @zvideosz Рік тому

      sameeee

    • @disneychannelamv1214
      @disneychannelamv1214 Рік тому

      It’s for the best

  • @Blinded-gl7oe
    @Blinded-gl7oe Рік тому +11

    9:13 EXACTLY tEll me WHY GINA IS APOLOGETICALLY Apologising

    • @carolinacasadochamorro4550
      @carolinacasadochamorro4550 3 місяці тому

      maybe because she text to her BOYFRIEND knowing that they were in a relacionship and she thought it was FINE for ricky to give her chocolates on v-day

  • @imgonnafillall50characters36
    @imgonnafillall50characters36 Рік тому +22

    WAIT STOP YOU HAVE QUITE A POINT HERE. AND 4:01 I SWEAR I THINK THAT EVERY TIME I SEE ITTT

  • @bigonbooks4736
    @bigonbooks4736 Рік тому +56

    I liked the show SO much better after she left. And even after season 4 aired and she wasn’t in it I was like, “Was she even grateful for this opportunity?”

  • @nbsomething
    @nbsomething Рік тому +21

    bruh, watching this video I thought she was evil, but I started watching HSMTMTS after finishing it and these clips are ALL SO OUT OF CONTEXT OMG

    • @carolinacasadochamorro4550
      @carolinacasadochamorro4550 3 місяці тому +3

      thanks god i found this coment everyone is just hating on nini and they're pointing out scenes that were a joke or are completely out of context

    • @o.m9514
      @o.m9514 3 місяці тому +1

      THANK YOU!!!

  • @lucygarrett9785
    @lucygarrett9785 Рік тому +17

    I’m realizing Nini and Dean from Gilmore Girls have way too much in common, they should both be hated by the masses

  • @swiftie4ever13
    @swiftie4ever13 Рік тому +44

    she's js a regular teenager she's not a menace 😭

  • @ToyinYourFavouriteYouTuber
    @ToyinYourFavouriteYouTuber Рік тому +19

    SHE IS JUST A TEENAGER
    THE CHARACTER WAS JUST A TEENAGER!!!!!!!!! What would you say about Ashley from High School Musical?????
    Y’all should chill
    She is a TEENAGER WITH FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS AND ITS ALL OVER THE PLACE
    SENSITIVE???

  • @ambree7115
    @ambree7115 Рік тому +39

    Not to mention that every season a big character moment of hers was just undid the next season. Got back together with Ricky? Let's break them up again. Came back to Salt Lake after making the decision to leave? Let's make sure she leaves for sure next time.

  • @laurenbrannan9324
    @laurenbrannan9324 4 місяці тому +4

    No no no no no not the break up scene ok that scene broke me and for you too just criticise it is not it like No ok nini the best character in the show she’s so sweet and all your doing is putting the bad stuff that ninis and not actually showing why she feels that way

  • @mya1256
    @mya1256 Рік тому +57

    Gina’s outfits were absolutely AMAZING though 😌

    • @planetdrool
      @planetdrool 5 місяців тому +1

      ehhhh no everyone's outfits sucked

  • @meeluhhh97
    @meeluhhh97 Рік тому +7

    This video made me realize I like Olivia Rodrigo, NOT Nini 😀

  • @AamuktaMoturi-vj9il
    @AamuktaMoturi-vj9il Рік тому +11

    Nini can be self-absorbed,
    but Olivia Rodrigo is amazing, I love her so much!

  • @logangreen6107
    @logangreen6107 Рік тому +111

    THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO. I’m so glad I’m not the only one who finds Nini insufferable. 😂

    • @caitlingill
      @caitlingill Рік тому

      She’s like Rachel from Glee

    • @nanalove3819
      @nanalove3819 Рік тому

      @@caitlingill Oh come on, that's an exageration. Rachel's level of selfishness is unreachable.

    • @caitlingill
      @caitlingill Рік тому

      @@nanalove3819 I said “like” not “the same as”

    • @nanalove3819
      @nanalove3819 Рік тому

      @@caitlingill still an exageration. This comparison isn't fair

    • @gutslivia
      @gutslivia Рік тому +1

      says a lot about u because she is harmless af

  • @jamingrythm584
    @jamingrythm584 Рік тому +50

    Honestly they should have just turned her into a villain if she stayed

    • @clairemyers9676
      @clairemyers9676 Рік тому +5

      they prolly were gonna but then... she left...

    • @clairemyers9676
      @clairemyers9676 Рік тому +6

      wqtching this video though is like a beatiful villan backstory

    • @thylionheart
      @thylionheart Рік тому +23

      I think she would’ve just naturally become one tbh, she was certainly on her way to it-beyond her relationship with Ricky, the way she abandoned the drama club during the dance off and then said they should perform her song even if it gets them disqualified showed a complete lack of community, which is what HSMTMTS ended up being about by the end: community, belonging, acceptance. By the end of s2, she had stopped being a team player and had become completely self-focused. Even back in s1, I think they messed up her character by giving her the ambition to leave Salt Lake City. That put her in direct conflict with ever being able to have a healthy relationship with Ricky-someone with abandonment issues.
      By contrast, while Gina has ambitions, she also seeks stability and a sense of home, and is more like Ricky in being afraid of change because she’s experienced so much of it. Ricky and Gina were able to understand each other on a fundamental level and find a strong sense of home and community in the drama club that Nini never reached, because her being in the drama club was about herself and her ambitions.

    • @jamingrythm584
      @jamingrythm584 Рік тому +1

      @@thylionheart Great points

    • @imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs
      @imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs Рік тому +1

      No can do the nini stans would come after Tim there are just too many of them 💀

  • @Kendal_2836
    @Kendal_2836 Рік тому +54

    Nini is such a problem child

  • @luciabangueses091
    @luciabangueses091 Рік тому +9

    someone said it THANK GOD

  • @m.josena4485
    @m.josena4485 Рік тому +7

    She’s a literal menace but all these scenes make like her sm more 😭

  • @kindly43
    @kindly43 Рік тому +27

    Nini is giving Rachel Berry and idk how to handle that after watching this vid.
    P.S. SHE EVEN DRESSES LIKE S1-3 RACHAEL BERRY I CAN'T 😭💀🤣

  • @lovetahsin
    @lovetahsin 3 місяці тому +1

    1:12 the way this just kept on going has me rolling 😭 i miss s1

  • @Gianna-nr7wp
    @Gianna-nr7wp 5 місяців тому +2

    my question was being a good actor means that u can ACT WELL not only be able to act if ur bf (or whoever he was at that time) is doing it with u so how did she get into that school i was so confused when i saw she got in

  • @shelbi4961
    @shelbi4961 Рік тому +34

    Honestly I think that most of these “toxic” moments were just meant for comedic effect 😭

    • @maimunaali3072
      @maimunaali3072 Рік тому +11

      right!! like y'all gettin mad and it's meant to be funny. thats how i saw it while i was watching and i thought she did a great job!

    • @shelbi4961
      @shelbi4961 Рік тому +3

      @@maimunaali3072 same! The only thing I can think of that was definitely wrong of her was to rebrand herself (with the intent of trying to escape ricky) without explaining to him what was going on and invalidating his feelings.

    • @ADaisyThatHappensToBePurple
      @ADaisyThatHappensToBePurple Рік тому +1

      Also the part where they were like "SIT DOWN!?!!???!" how is that toxic? ō-ô

    • @muffinator1239
      @muffinator1239 Рік тому +1

      @@maimunaali3072well it wasnt funny?? It just made her suck.

    • @planetdrool
      @planetdrool 5 місяців тому +1

      @@muffinator1239ricky has toxic moments too but yall kiss his ass all the time

  • @OishiZahirul
    @OishiZahirul День тому +1

    4:00 Seriously though, how???

  • @imjusthere6342
    @imjusthere6342 Рік тому +26

    she reminds me of rachel berry and not in a good way(love olivia tho)

    • @nahirloor117
      @nahirloor117 7 місяців тому +1

      Nah Rachel Berry was 3000 times worse than Nini, Nini is an angel compared to Rachel lol

  • @rominagimenez4779
    @rominagimenez4779 Рік тому +5

    i support women's rights but most importantly i support women's wrongs!

  • @handsomemahlambi
    @handsomemahlambi Рік тому +12

    Now that you put it all back to back to back to back like this
    GIRL
    I have to defend my boy Richard sometimes (he’s still not off for what he did to Gina)

  • @ashtonskyegorlewski2248
    @ashtonskyegorlewski2248 Рік тому +2

    Why must I let a video on the internet change my perspective on a fictional disney channel character???

  • @Pattmore
    @Pattmore Рік тому +7

    Well…her middle name is *Salazar* as in *Salazar Slytherin🐍*

    • @pink4lr
      @pink4lr 9 місяців тому

      I CANNOT I GENUINELY THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY ME AND MY SISTER WHO THOUGHT THIS

  • @Marie-Fey40
    @Marie-Fey40 5 місяців тому +1

    4:07
    I don't understand how she was the only one who got into the school

  • @vqnill.
    @vqnill. 9 місяців тому +4

    so for you guys saying “y’all defending her r definitely Olivia Rodrigo stans” like is it illegal to like a character without being an Olivia stan and comparing the character to the actress? like I get it Nini could’ve been a pain in the ass sometimes but that’s no reason to bring her actress into this. It’s a damn scripted character.

    • @n3vertheless.
      @n3vertheless. 5 місяців тому

      @@vqnill. same thing i said on my other comment in the replies but it’s olivia stans taking it as an attack to olivia when u don’t like the character!!!

  • @SpideyMike2023
    @SpideyMike2023 Рік тому +31

    To make my own response to a certain comment on the video, I wouldn’t say she was self-absorbed per-say. She was just bad at handling relationships I think (especially with the first Rini breakup and the fact that she didn’t think about what problems Ricky might’ve been having with possibly his parents, and her breaking up with EJ WHICH, (sorry) by the way alone shows an example, in my opinion, of a terrible girlfriend (coming from a guy who’s never been in a relationship before, but still I’ve seen very good relationships play out in other media, though) and also believe me when I say that I have definitely seen way, WAY better relationships with girlfriends than Nini.

    • @avviuu
      @avviuu Рік тому +8

      Seems pretty self absorbed to me

    • @SpideyMike2023
      @SpideyMike2023 Рік тому +5

      @@avviuu She was being self absorbed whenever it was a scene like with Ricky when they were in the room playing the piano, but for others however, not exactly.

    • @avviuu
      @avviuu Рік тому +1

      @@SpideyMike2023 So 1/2 self absorbed

    • @SpideyMike2023
      @SpideyMike2023 Рік тому

      @@avviuu Mmmmm, well I guess.

    • @thylionheart
      @thylionheart Рік тому +3

      The problem is that she shows self-absorbed tendencies in regards to other people, too. The “I get that” or “I understand” and then immediately talking about herself or changing the topic to involve herself is something she does to and about other characters-Kourtney, Gina, off the top of my head. A lot of the selfish traits in this video aren’t just when she’s interacting with her boyfriends/exes, but other characters. That’s what makes her self-absorbed and not just bad at romantic relationships.

  • @mycommentingacc-hu5st
    @mycommentingacc-hu5st 5 місяців тому +3

    Yeah I never really vibed with Nini, like one minute she was obsessed with Ricky and the next minute she was pushing him away. (To be fair I've known girls who can get like that over a guy, just never been that way myself.) But I never liked Ricky either, we actually have a lot in common but I always felt like he got too much favoritism from Miss Jenn, and I cheered when he and Nini broke up for good. And I wailed when he got with Gina, my girlll 😭
    Sorry for rambling but i'm in an Olivia Rodrigo phase rn and none of my friends watched hsmtmts

  • @Angelica-yt6rp
    @Angelica-yt6rp 2 місяці тому +1

    I’m dying laughing. Her not sitting during Frozen was driving me crazy lol

  • @spacechip3386
    @spacechip3386 Рік тому +6

    0:38 This is actually iconic.

  • @janemary6985
    @janemary6985 Рік тому +24

    Y’all do realize she’s supposed to be a high school student right? As far as I remember there is not a single high school student who is not a problem

    • @annedanae2921
      @annedanae2921 Рік тому +1

      True. She's still unlikeable though. Ricky is a horrible boyfriend, manipulative, and has a whole hosts of problems, but his motivations are somewhat understandable. They never really tell us anything about nini, and in the first season it's kinda like she exists only to respond to the things Ricky's going through/ to create more plot. If they had actually given her a storyline outside of her relationship and outside of school, it might have been different. But going off what we've seen, she really does just seem like a self centered brat 😭😭

  • @fqirydstx
    @fqirydstx Рік тому +11

    it's been four years since i've watched the first season so i didn't really remember how toxic nini really was since the beginning. i'm so happy gina was the mc in the 3-4th seasons and rina was endgame.

    • @kristenmesa5059
      @kristenmesa5059 5 місяців тому

      DONT YOU DARE RININ 4 LIFE WAS THE BESTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT......................

  • @spoodermannnnn
    @spoodermannnnn 4 місяці тому +1

    I was so happy when I found out the character was not gonna return and the show got so much better like season 4 was the best season

  • @oliviakwasnothere4444
    @oliviakwasnothere4444 5 місяців тому +1

    Did anyone ever notice she used the same line as gina when she surprised them that she was back

  • @vktroylion9859
    @vktroylion9859 Рік тому +23

    Thank you for this I feel this way I really don't get why there are too many Nini fans a lot I see is Nini overhyped by fans of HSMTMTS I'm a diffrent kind of fan that is not a Nini fan I am happy she never appeared once in the final season 4 I got no hate for Oliva Rodrigo as I am obsessed with her music but I don't like Nini at all.

  • @JHSIUNG98
    @JHSIUNG98 7 місяців тому +2

    It sucks seeing all the nini/olivia slanders on social media.

  • @alexaedits28
    @alexaedits28 Рік тому +43

    The more I saw this video it made so much sense Nini is bad at communicating and never apologizes for anything like what 😭

    • @Pablito-fi1ip
      @Pablito-fi1ip Рік тому

      is that she was selfish and only cared about her solo career

    • @alexaedits28
      @alexaedits28 Рік тому

      @@Pablito-fi1ip that too

    • @gutslivia
      @gutslivia Рік тому

      ricky is terrible at communication. she never had to apologise.

    • @alexaedits28
      @alexaedits28 Рік тому

      @@gutslivia no I get that I agree I’m saying whatever mistakes she made she never apologized

  • @YerStewpid
    @YerStewpid Рік тому +3

    I love Nini just for the fact that her character was well written. I mean, it feels like their intentions for her was for people to hate her. Very well done.

  • @lexTS89
    @lexTS89 Рік тому +9

    I THOUGHT SHE LOOKED SO OLD IN THE FIRST SEASON WHEN IT CAME OUT- Now three years later, she looks TINY

  • @kamilaojuri4409
    @kamilaojuri4409 11 місяців тому +2

    Nini is the worst because she makes it all about her? Maybe that's why I never liked her,or shipped her with Ricky. I feel Ricky deserved better the 2nd she began dating EJ.

  • @AmeliaPlayz
    @AmeliaPlayz Рік тому +3

    Liv played this character so well but GOD Nini was so insufferable sometimes.

  • @elishasli
    @elishasli Рік тому +53

    She’s literally the worst main character 😭😭😭

    • @CarolineStrunk-ld4ri
      @CarolineStrunk-ld4ri Рік тому +1

      No what the actual WTFWTF

    • @marlonzogriffin6983
      @marlonzogriffin6983 Рік тому +6

      To be honest I felt like she wasn’t the true main character it was Gina always been Gina if I’m being honest like show looking back at the season 1-4 it’s always been Gina

    • @caitlingill
      @caitlingill Рік тому

      She’s like Rachel from Glee

    • @gutslivia
      @gutslivia Рік тому

      u don’t get out much

    • @marlonzogriffin6983
      @marlonzogriffin6983 Рік тому +1

      @@caitlingill nah more like Santana

  • @josuealopez3167
    @josuealopez3167 Рік тому +6

    Ok but fr like why was her outfits thee worst of everyone lmao they had beef with nini 💀

  • @pcdmusic7926
    @pcdmusic7926 Рік тому +1

    I didn't realize till now Nini Roberts is...IS...Rachel Berry of HSMTMTS

  • @hotandstuff8277
    @hotandstuff8277 Рік тому +3

    her style was so bad but i guess they thought it made her quirky and relatable

  • @lovetahsin
    @lovetahsin 3 місяці тому +2

    3:20 giving rachel green

  • @livinwithlia
    @livinwithlia Рік тому +1

    I thought it was just me who thought it was a struggle to watch nini dancing in “Ain’t seen nothing yet” 😭

  • @Idiot_TaylorsVersion
    @Idiot_TaylorsVersion Рік тому +3

    10:34 tbh I feel like the middle one and the one on the right aren't that bad

  • @annora644
    @annora644 Рік тому +4

    some of those outfits were cute tho, she just had too much going on underneath but like they weren't bad :(

  • @im_Marie
    @im_Marie 8 місяців тому +1

    i think every character in the show is obviusly problematic, cause nini is terrible with communication and boring, Gina is SO egocentric, Ricky has a lot issues and that makes his so insecure, E.J is so toxic, controller (he had a big evolution in season 2 but idk), Ashley is insecure and dramatic, Carlos is dramatic, Kourtney always had a opinions about Nini relation but she always wants controll her mind ,i think the only ones who dont have a problematic points is Big Red and Seb

  • @hotandstuff8277
    @hotandstuff8277 Рік тому +13

    she tried to make Ricky and Gina into villains, but look at Courtney’s sense of style when she was around 😭Ashley was just a yes man like the show did better without her

  • @sarah4221b
    @sarah4221b Рік тому +2

    her and ricky just do not fit at all like they really just don’t understand each other… they have different preferences and ways of communicating. ricky connects more on a whole new level with gina compared to her.

  • @svftmgc
    @svftmgc Рік тому +24

    i will always be pissed that everyone acted like ricky was obligated to say “i love you” back…

  • @chqrry.ৎ
    @chqrry.ৎ 4 місяці тому +1

    i just burst out laughing when she said “wHaT iF i iNviTe MySeLf OvEr” like- 💀💀

  • @ALivieAndDaughterOfNike
    @ALivieAndDaughterOfNike 3 місяці тому +1

    Honestly, i feel like throughout season one most of us felt like Nini was great ,everyone was fantastic and that this was just a recreation of hsm but towards the end of season one and start of season two i started realising that everything was connected. Eg: Ricky is clinging on to Nini so bad because his MOM left him, I’m sure if his girlfriend left but his mom was still with him he wouldn’t have been so desperate to get her back…😢 Nini was also the only constant in his life. Also i started losing lots of respect and the point where she started yelling at a couple to stop doing stuff… like would you like that? And i lost a lot more when Nini said that they should just perform her song anyway. Ur friends have worked so so so hard in the musical and ur suggesting that they get disqualified because u want to perform ur song? A real friend would have just accepted that she couldn’t perform the song bc her friends would lose out on everything they worked so hard on. And i think her stylist hates her.. like that Halloween party outfit genuinely sucked.

  • @n3vertheless.
    @n3vertheless. Рік тому +13

    i just know for a fact half the people complaining abt this video r olivia stans

    • @cocomarie-qq9lz
      @cocomarie-qq9lz Рік тому +5

      why is it so hard for y'all to believe people can like a character without it being because of the actress? it's not like nini killed someone ffs. it seems more like y'all are the ones who can't separate the character from the actress

    • @vqnill.
      @vqnill. 9 місяців тому +1

      I HAD TO SCROLL THROUGH AT LEAST 10 MINUTES LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT OMG

    • @n3vertheless.
      @n3vertheless. 5 місяців тому

      @@vqnill.PLSSSS

    • @n3vertheless.
      @n3vertheless. 5 місяців тому

      @@cocomarie-qq9lz omg it’s been 10 months holy shit but what i’m saying is most olivia stans get pissed when u don’t like the character bc for some reason they take it as an attack to olivia

  • @izzye1156
    @izzye1156 7 днів тому

    I'm so glad I'm not THE ONLY ONE!

  • @JimTsai0113
    @JimTsai0113 Місяць тому +1

    Ye... But have to say, having these tiny unperfections in characters are why we can relate and show empathy to them. May not be the best character, but sure do is a vivid character!

  • @agreenpar
    @agreenpar Рік тому +10

    I took a long break in between seasons 2&3 and when I finally did watch season 3 and she left, I felt relieved, but couldn’t exactly remember what she did previously to make me feel that way.
    Thank you for the reminder.
    #teamrina

  • @poetsatmidnights
    @poetsatmidnights 29 днів тому

    8:00 I ALWAYS THINK THIS WHEN IM REWATCHING 😭🙏

  • @tireddaily
    @tireddaily Рік тому +4

    she’s so petty it’s actually so funny omg 😭😭

  • @handsomemahlambi
    @handsomemahlambi Рік тому +19

    Girl literally went back to East High to leave it again
    Just say you wanted fame from the beginning
    She loves attention
    That’s why she’s threatened by Gina who doesn’t command it but gets it easily
    Saying she loves someone for likes and then forcing them to say it back when they don’t love her
    Girl bye