Star Wars: MC75 Mon Calamari Cruiser - Ship Breakdown
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2018
- Spacedock breaks down the MC75 Mon Calamari Cruisers of the Rebel Alliance.
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Great work as always vode! Could you do an analysis on all the TIE variants?
Would you consider doing a breakdown of the Nebula Class Star Destroyer?. I love your content and can't wait to see more keep up the good work :)
As something that has been on my mind for a while, have you ever considered looking at sci-fi weapon designs from a physics-based perspective? Because I did the math for some examples based on Kyle's math on the "Death Star's Other Fatal Flaw", and that same flaw was applicable to other ship designs claimed to have massively high yields for their weapons, yet have a demonstrable recoil on-screen.
Hey Spacedock! Can you please do the "Battle Star Galactica" Original TV Series) iconic Cylon Raider?
Fan theory - Mon Calamari are naturally adept space combat strategists and commanders as being an aquatic species they grew up dealing with problems in 3 dimensions more efficiently than land based species.
Makes sense.
I can believe that.
Obviously
Damn, that's a GREAT theory!
Dolphins in the Uplift series (by David Brin) are considered the best pilots in the galaxy for this exact reason.
"The Imperial Star Destroyer has the most over-exposed bridge"
MC75: "Hold my beer"
The MC75 can be excused by virtue of being an underwater city that learned how to fly and sprouted turbolaser batteries, rather than a dedicated warship.
*blue milk
I agree with JohnWolf. The ISD is a dedicated warship. Designed from the beginning for combat. The MC75 was a last ditch measure. I would agree that the bridge location is ludicrous IF it was designed for combat from the start. But that is not the case.
@@johnwolf2349 How about the Providence class then? There's a warship with an even more exposed bridge.
@@andyb1653 the providence class' bridge isn't exposed at all. That's some kind of look-out tower. The main bridge is at the front end of the ship.
We really miss you Admiral Raddus...
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Yes I miss him the most because every where I go see both his and Grand Admiral Ackbar’s Faces
Out of all the ships in the star wars series, mon calamari cruisers are always the most creative. Star Destroyers, sure , they have firepower. But Mon calamari cruisers has so much character to them.
The mc85 is my favourite
This an example of why Rogue One is by far the best Disney era SW film and honestly in my top 5 of all SW films too, the people behind it just got SW, they were loyal to the canon but any new additions made sense in both design and in the story.
Mon Cal ships are just wonderful pieces of design. The MC75 has a super striking silhouette
Beautifully designed artwork with guns, if it wasn't for their shield tech they'd crumple like foil.
@Raymond Leone To be fair the MC75 is a re-purposed Mon Calamari Civilian Building that just also happens to work as a Space Ship.
Too bad it is almost completely inept in combat
I don't know about inept, it survived a fight with three Star Destroyers intact, that's got to be worth something @@user-gi4wg9ib8i
@@fix0the0spade except for the fact that it barely survived engagement with 2 ISDs from relatively safe position and got completely stomped when it actually got into a killzone of Devastator. It doesnt have an incredible survivability of MC80(shields are comparatively bad and it doesn't have heavy armor on most of its vital points),it has very few weapons with shitty layout(it can only fire half its weapons per broadside with really bad firing arcs),and it can't effectively carry and deploy starfighters(it has only one ISD style hanger,which doesn't really work with rebel starfighters because of lack of landing platforms and maintenance space,which also means it can't really accommodate shuttles). It might be enough to beat smaller or older imperial warships like Victory/Venator,but it's no match for an ISD,which was the main source of problems for Rebels. It could have worked just fine as a heavy carrier,but again,it doesn't. If rebels had Home One at Scarif(and we know that they had it by that point of time,but it supposedly ran off with most of the senators or simply was unavailable),they would have been able to openly engage both ISDs,pummel shield gate into dust with turbolaser fire and end the battle way before Devastator could arrive.
MC75 is my favorite new capital ship addition. Seems when ever they do new additions the the civil war era they always hit it out of the park. Like the U-wing
TheT7770ify more like anything from rogue one
True. They manage to make designs that fit so we'll with the OT that it automatically feels authentic.
@@porky8278 Didn't like the solo designs?
TheT7770ify Solo was a forgettable film while RO was able to leave a good lasting impression. Plus I loved battle of Scariff
Mustache Puppies agreed. Although the bridge of the MC75 is kinda like exposed as shit, it’s still a cool design and we can see the evolution of the mon cala class ships
"...fell victim to a lethal boarding action..." yeah, composed by one guy, freaking Vader being more awesome in a 3 minutes scene than in the whole Star Wars saga or animated spin-offs. That scene made the whole movie for me.
True. He was scary af at that scene. Awesome but scary. Gave me chills...damn sith.
It was fanwank bullshit. Have a word with yourself.
@@adamcetinkent Still awesome as hell though
Raddus should have blown up the ship or scuttled it into the shield gate with Vader on board.
Jason CALDWELL Maybe you’re right, but there was no shield gate left at that point. It had already been taken down by the crashing star destroyers.
When I first Saw Rogue One, I thought the MC75 was Just a really big and slick Nebulon Frigate...
Mike the bike I thought it was a heavily modified dauntless battleship at first.
I thought it was just well hung
I first thought it was one of the Separatist Dreadnought.
I'm sad we haven't seen more of the MC75
It is used in the game armada and is where some of the information in this video comes from.
Well episode 9 fixes that
Yeah, I think I saw 3 or 4 of them in that one shot where Lando and that massive fleet arrive to help out Poe, and the remaining attack force
Well, great day then with Star Wars Squadrons!
Good news it’s a base for vanguard squadron
The Battle of Scarif is still to this day my favourite space battle in (canon) Star Wars. Of course, it doesn’t even come close to how brilliant some of the space battles of the Old Republic era were, but, Raddus’ flagship played a rather large part of that.
Now, where did I park my Eternal Fleet...
The Profundity's bridge placement might be profoundly stupid. But I appreciate the added layer to the Rebellion's desperation.
"But, sir! The command center is far too exposed!"
"But it's what we've got. Bolt as many of the refurbished turbolaser batteries on it as you can."
Plus it seemed pretty well shielded as it's windows survived several Tie Fighters firing on it at once.
@@richardched6085 all mon cal ships seem to have stronger shields by default. they are more defensive oriented. idk, to me it seems like some error in design logic. if you have enough power for those shields to hold so much pounding, you have enough power for crap ton of turbolasers too.
@@sleepingbackbone7581 not necessarily as the energy being poured into the Shields would need to come from somewhere (a consequence of having better Shields is having less Turbolaser power)
It's like they have a choice, it's a repurposed civilian ship after all
@@math3000 The MC-75s were City-Ships, the MC-80s were Cruise Liners.
I oftentimes think that some star wars ships of battle aren't well made, or have many faults, then I remember they came out of a thousand years without a massive war, without the mass production of dedicated warships.
For those not keeping up (not an insult btw) during the first world war, antiquated tactics we're not on par with designs or technological advancements, leading to many horrendous mistakes being made, prior to world war 1, there hadn't been a big war in just 40 years, so it's more than safe to assume that many of their typical ship designs and tactics we're ill suited for the conflicts they were employed, leading to multiple faults as a result.
Yeah, during WWI the Europeans were still using cavalry charges. Tanks and machine guns made that a bad idea.
@@kerensky02 my first thought was the French uniforms.
Thanks for the reminder. I'll try not to forget that :0
More importantly there hadn't been a big protracted war where two or more nation states ground on each other in europe. Only the States suffered the civil war, and by then linear tactics were antiquated. Fast forward 50 years and it's even worse as armies rolled up on each other with tactics for weapons that were effective at 100 yards, but with weapons effective at 1000 instead.
david lewis this is what essentially boils down to.
Info in this video straight from star wars Armada: 80%
*IT'S A DEATHTRAP*
Just kidding. It's a really cool ship. I like the submarine/boat keel style and the slight bumps on its hull, giving that organic texture to it.
It is a deathtrap though. That frontal docking bay is a massive weakness and the bridge is in a position that makes me wonder why Raddus wasn't using the auxiliary bridge.
Overall it is an imaginative design though, so whoever designed it did a good job on that at least.
@@jonashemmingsson7301 Indeed.
One of the few new Disney Canon ships of an original design that is actually aesthetically cool looking and functional as a vessel in military engagements (though the exposed bridge is an obvious weakness, it's more than made up for the fact that like all Mon Cal ships, the MC-75 comes packing with excellent shields and armor platting).
Well the MC-75 was a Civilian building in a underwater city before it became a Capital ship, Mon Calamari just happen to be really good at making office buildings that can take on Military vesicles.
Funny thing... although this vessel was supposed to be as well armed as mentioned, the cruiser in Rouge One did not fire a single shot... none of 12 torpedoes launches did fire a single warhead... instead just watched space fight while of X-Y Wings over Scarif have tried to penetrate shields of ISD or Planet itself using their torpedoes... some bad thinking on Rebellion side or just a script misjudgment :)
It fired of screen obviously ;), or a more lore approbiate reason could be that it kept out of the star destroyers range.
The Rebellion is often under funded and might not have the torpedoes to launch
Lukas Peruzovic *visibly confused as to why the rebellion would send a capital ship with no ammunition*
If you watch it closely in the battle you can see it fire some turbolazer shots.
Actually, it shoots a lot of shots.
I loved the design of this ship. My favorite scene was when Admiral Raddus is inside the inverted glass dome of the bridge looking down at the fighting below. Reminds me a lot of the control car on a rigid airship.
Could you do a video on Dominion battleships and battlecruisers? Theres not much easily accessible and collected data on those.
Love this ship alot it's a nice representation of refuting Mon Calla vessel's
It hasn't been long enough for you to see the full video. I mean, it's not wrong, but still.
@@blueispaniard6513 just saw the name of the ship and commented I've read alot about the vessel actually
@@andrewperkin7192 Oh... in that case, my apologies.
@@blueispaniard6513 it's okay
@@andrewperkin7192 Very well then. Btw, I'm in a joke discussion with a guy named Sam dale and I need some support, could you help me out?
It's about empire v rebellion.
Honestly, the MC75 is my favorite design of all the rebel capital ships. It looks like a hybrid between rebel and Separatist designs
I'm so glad I stumbled across this channel. You guys do an absolutely fantastic job! Keep up the great work!
Maybe you could start a mini series about the ships in Star trek Online .It may not be canon but there are a lot of cool ships and it does show a different perspective of the Star Trek universe . Jolan tru .
Another fantastic video
Spacedank back at it again with another insightful video
This is one of the first videos I've seen lately that had information I didn't already know. I couldn't find a single flaw in your description. 5/5
Great looking ship!
I *love* the MC-75, so thanks for covering this bad boy! 😍
I love these videos.
Here's a sci-fi universe that I would love to see you tackle in terms of ship breakdowns. Metroid.
*Rogue One......may the force be with you*
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Mon Calamari ship's are just awesome but my 4 favorites are is the MC80 home one type that ship is just a beast and second,third, and forth is MC80 liberty type, the MC85, and last but not least is the viacount star defender.
Great work as always! Thank you. XD
i glanced at the video title and read MC75 as MCRN, i was only slightly diapointed.
I wonder if a mistake was ever made and they called a star destroyer the Impotence but everyone was too afraid to say anything.
"The Impotence has arrived" I think the enemys would quake in terror.
Maybe they also called one the "Compensator" while they were at it.
@@maximsavage well the empire has 25,000 star destroyers in service so I'm sure some funny names are put in there by a funny imperial clerk. Can't call them all something scary, you just run out of words.
@@BGRANT777X True enough, but seeing what happens to imperial officers in the original trilogy when they displease their leadership, I doubt anyone would have the guts to willingly name the Empire's weapons of subjugation with silly phrases. "I'm informed you're the man who named my newest cruiser the /Choke me Daddy/ ?" "Why yes Lord Vader, I thought it waaa-AAaerraraagkkkk-k-k..."
You use names like that to hide ships like the superlaser equipped star destroyer, Conqueror.
"Tanks" were originally called "Land Ships", till the British realized, with a name like that, it would be easy for an enemy spy to figure out what they were trying to do.
Think about it. The Rebel Alliance gets word that Darth Vader is traveling to personally visit the Impotence and they might figure that Vader is going to go strangle some officers for their failed project. Rather than traveling to watch the Empire's latest superweapon blow a moon in half.
Could you please do the mc85 cruiser
Horror Fan that thing had 40 years to advance but somehow still has less guns than any variant of the MC80. Also it’s 3km long but only 15 turbos? Seriously? Ok if it ends up being a carrier or troop transport fine but that’s never explicitly stated in any source material
@@nicholaswong6737 You have to remember that the Mc-85 was used to hunt down the remaining empire (the ones that didn't join the First Order) and the New Republic demilitirized (which is stupid) so the MC-85 we see in the Last Jedi is basically outdated compared to the First Order navy.
El Reván it’s outdated compared to fucking GCW standards. This thing has 3 times less guns than the Liberty and 2 times less guns than the home one types. It’s outdated for a ship entering the clone wars for Christ sake. Whoever designed the raddus is just stupid. At least the new republic advanced in military tech but they were stupid enough to only have one fleet that got blown to bits. So I got nothing. Legends NR vs Imperial remnant made way more sense, the NR pushed for militarization and bigger better ships, like the Mc90 and Nebula class star destroyer. In canon demilitriazation makes no sense because there are still 25000 ISDs unaccounted for.
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It had 18 heavy triple turbolazers, if you consider them to be around the yield (which judging by the cross section it is) of a venator's main battery turbolazer, it packs a punch!
El Reván those 25000 probably all got melted down and used to build the new resurgent and mega classes
Nice nod to Star Wars Armada with the description of the Armored and Ordinance variants! Love to use this ship when I play Armada, and ranks up there amongst my favorite ships of the Alliance.
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Well done indeed !!!
I love your voice. I really hope you voice Audio Books.
I would like to see New Republic ship sharing similar design.
I would love to see more New Republic ships in IX in general.
@@jonasb104 NEBULAAA!!!
Then the starhawk might be up your alley
@@fakenuke7487
Yes indeed, but there is no official images of the StarHawk, and i'm sure it won't be seen in the Episode IX.
@@Viguier89 you think so? I was thinking the reason we haven't seen them is because they would be shown on episode 9, I thought they wanted to add shock factor into the mix
It always amazes me that such large shops has so few guns
Guess the thought is they are like tanks in stead of battle ships. I do understand that this wasnt built as a warship
Love seeing the armada artwork
Zero dislikes. Very good!
Victory-Class SD please. That ship gets no love.
Flappy ISD is cute 😁
@@frealms "As the Victory Star Destroyer, moves to contend with threat in its vicinity. It perform a display to intimidate its aggressors. Little do these ships know the Victory's display is not just for show... After the warning display is done the enemy ships move in closer to engage only to be met by a barrage of rockets and missiles. It is too late for the enemy vessels as they are obliterated by the Victory" - does in David Attenborough voice.
Agreed!!! The Victory class SD!!!!!
Dunno how it happened but just as you uploaded this video and before clicking on it, I've received Rowan J Coleman
video suggestions. New youtube algorithm?
God I love your videos.
If there is ever a game, with a ship or vehicle game, that has so much lore behind any idea, place, weapon etc. I hope they hire you cuz your voice fits this roll as a hangar advisor presenting new ships to pilots, or old ships that remain in service due to its reliability
I love it when SW Armada stats bleed into the actual canon. I got geek fever when Daniel mentioned the two variations of the MC75 because I see those flow to great effect.
I always wondered if Mon Calamari ships were capable of drop into atmo, and even land in oceans and submerge. It makes sense that an oceanic race would design ships capable of surviving the crushing depths of their homeworlds, so also makes sense that in terms of combat durability, they'd also be ridiculously strong against assault, and able to shrug off a lot.
I would love to see some spotlight to the classic RTS space game, Homeworld. Some of the weapon placement, such as the Kushan Vengeance-class Assault Frigate has some amazing coverage from the placement of its 4 turreted mass drivers.
Ah, I love this ship!
Rogue One is my favourite Star Wars movie, the people who made it "got" Star Wars. It wasn't about the Skywalkers or Jedi it was about the Rebellion doing the tough things that no one else wanted or dared to do.
The action scenes were outstanding and the characters were so 3D and well thought out.
I loved the scene where the Rebel fleet arrived at Scarif (the Imperials must have crapped themselves) and the effects were brilliant.
The whole cast were outstanding and I wish they did more movies like this.
3:34 like one bread cutting another
"The captain goes down with the ship." Is a etymology of the maritime tradition that the sea captain holds ultimate responsibility for both their ship and everyone embarked on it and that is Admiral Raddus in a nutshell and even tho he only got one film he was one of the stand outs in Rogue One and he was also the one who trained Gial Ackbar, future Admiral of the Rebel Alliance. Raddus went down in style and his sacrifice is what help lead to the destruction of the Death Star.
i adore the design of the mc-75
So what I get is that Vader's ship wouldn't have been able to disable the ship so easily if it hadn't just been in a protracted battle.
Indeed. The Profundity only got creamed by the Devestator because her shields were at nearly 0% after the battle.
Jonas Brauer more like Darth Vader. Burn all the defense tokens and got the critical damage thrust control malfunction making it dead in the water
@@StarWarsGoldfish Haha😂👌
Basically as ships deactivate their Deflector Shields before entering Hyperspace. But can activate them again once in Hyperspace. (just a theory)
@patsfreak Well, that might be true. Then again, i don't know if Vader's ship was modified to be more resilient.
The section between the command module and the main hull is just screaming to be snapped by concentrated fire. It's got the point defense to ward off a fairly decent sized fighter attack, but it wouldn't last long (seconds at most) if an enemy commander with any brains thought to focus fire there from a heavier ship than a fighter...
Corwin Hyatt I agree but wasn’t meant to go to war after all so I can give it a little slack compared to some other ships.
It was a City-Ship (mobile space hab) with guns strapped on.
This is probably one of my favorite ships in Star Wars
Literally my favorite capital ship and Raddus is a god
This might be my favorite new canon ship design, the only thing I don’t like about it is the overly exposed bridge, that’s almost Nebulon-B levels of easily exploitable weakspot ^^
I ❤️ Grand Admiral Raddus and the profundity
Will no one mention that it's a airbrush? Literally, a giant airbrush in space.
I have never been a fan of Mon Cal ships but I love this one for how sleek it looks compared to the newer ships.
You should do a video on the mc-85 cruiser.
This video is basicly Star Wars Armada: The Spacedock Short. I like it ;D
PetersaberHD I love armada
@@StarWarsGoldfish great game. This is the only Star Wars thing that I'm still consuming after TLJ came out.
PetersaberHD getting the SSD?
@@StarWarsGoldfish nah, too expensive, and IMHO the SSD will be game-breaking. It's too tough to kill. I've run a dozen-or-so games with SSD against various lists and haven't lost once, and I am not a great player.
PetersaberHD I’ve seen some list that could work since if you reduce the SSD to half health you get half points you can try to do a hit and run. Or go full ramming with engine techs which I’ve seen a build that can do 6 dmg a turn and heal from it too just gotta hope they don’t take eclipse title. Plus with the ability to double arc the ship with side arcs greatly increases dmg that can be done to it. Now I’m a believer in what happens in theory and in
Practice are different so I could be wrong but I think with a little planning you can crack the SSD egg
In my opinion this is a pretty stylish ship
Can you guys do a video doing a detailed explanation of how exactly Mon Calamari Ships are made? Thanks!
Canon says this is a underwater building but when they escaped DAC they had space engines and hyperdrive and imperial overseers didn’t notice.
reminds me of the USS Monitor
Admiral Raddus' flagship in Rogue One and also the Temperace.
Nice breakdown. Shame we haven't seen much of this ship. Do you think you could do an episode on the UNSC Marathon-class Heavy cruiser from Halo?
Would you ever consider doing and outline on Emilio Lizardo's homemade craft from Buckaroo Bonzai. It's organic and not entirely successful, but it does have a built in over thruster, scout ship with liquid coolant and is a ridiculously foot-controled design. I understand it might not meet serious criterial, but I believe your take on it would be very entertaining. Keep up the good work.
Looking at the MC-75 from the front it looks like a finless shark with a huge collar
My music in the background
1:45 another graphic of a Victory Class, when we going to see them in live action?
I seem to be quite early, good.
I always got the vibe that the MC80 Home One variant was able to take on 1-2 Star Destroyers at once and was comparable to the Original Battlestar Galactica in terms of reliability and it's use as the Flagship of a Rag-Tag Rebel Fleet and that any Rebel aboard the Home One would feel relatively "safe" compared to other ships or installations. Obviously this reliability didn't carry over to the MC85 Raddus which had powerful Shields but inferior Firepower.
"...fell victim to a lethal boarding action..."
in other words, Vader. man that scene was freaking AWESOME!!!!!!!
I need to use the MC75 somwhere, I hope a mod adds it to Empíre At War someday
It is to be added to the Empire at war RE mod
Gotta say, seeing that ship in Star Wars gave me the distinct sense of going head first into a sword fight without any clothes on below the waist.
Neat
Oh, so the reason for the long extended tower was that the whole ship was actually an underwater city in the first place? Actually I thought that, similar to most other Mon Calamari capital ships used by the rebellion, before being retrofitted into warships, they were actually commercial in nature, a commerce fleet so to speak. I think in old lore, they were actually large passenger liners that sadly were converted into the warships that were surprisingly capable enough not just as carriers, but as capital ships able to fight Star Destroyers. Maybe not win one on one battles, but at the same time, not so helpless.
Kinda like strapping armor and guns unto a luxury cruise ship. Which is sadly what happened in old lore. Apparently every Mon Cal cruiser was uniquely designed, which I read made it very difficult logistically to repair them as no two Mon cal cruisers are alike, but at the same time, their different designs made the Imperials hard to pinpoint their weaknesses.
Ultimately I think the strength of the Mon Cal cruisers wasn't in the strength of their shield generators, but that they had a lot of them all over the ship overlapping each other so had lots of layers of shields to get through. Plus more guns able to aim all around it I think, whereas Star Destroyers concentrate on the front facing.
Despite all this, I still wish the bridge wasn't jutting out like that, but then again, as mentioned, it wasn't supposed to be a warship to begin with. Then again,, Star Wars has never been considered hard sci-fi in its design department.
Nice video, thanks for making it.
Hay I've played Dark Trouper I know the True story.
You can defend or attack this ship in the Star Wars game: Squadrons. You have to take down it's shields first then keep on attacking it on it's weak points.
Mc75s r awesome
I thought it was an interesting design and really quite liked it. I thought it was a bit too smooth and had more straight lines than I usually like in Mon Calamari ships, though.
Do the MC90.
Dan the man I hope you're well :-)
This is Admiral Raddus of the Rebel Alliance reporting for duty!
Hi Spacedock! A question for you- I was just rewatching your video on vessel types (it's great, btw thanks for your excellent work!) And had a thought: Are there any series that mimic the paradigm shift that resulted from the launching of the HMS Dreadnaught in the period shortly before WW1? By this I mean a change in tactics or techniques of construction? In real life, many nations were forced to fully retire entire squadrons of ships or fall out of the arms race entirely due to this one ship, and I can't think of a single series that does this.
That’s what you call a Star-Fortress!
I would really appreciate a video on the Orbital Defense Stations from the Halo universe (e.g. the Kairo and her sister stations). I know it's not technically a ship, but maybe....?
It's "Cairo" dumbass, named for the city of Cairo in Egypt.
You should look at the Gundam franchise ships!
I was wondering have you ever talked about the Gun star from The last star fighter. It was a cool ship I thought.
I'm always sad we don't get to see a lot of capital ship engagements in Star Wars. I know they romanticize starfighters, but c'mon guys. Honestly that was the best part of Episode 3 for me.
I love this ship in armada :D
If you remove the command tower below, from the side it kinda looks like a submarine or a u-boat of some sorts
Kinda looks like a Rebel Dauntless/Marsheem Battlecruiser if the tower is removed....
Side vuew silhouette looks like it came from Yamato Series.