@boogiedownbronx73 check out Rémy's latest. He goes over the updates on the 4 vs 5. If you are into a downhill park bike, it probably won't matter, as we all probably upgrade after purchase. If you're looking for different geometry updates it may or may not matter. A 180mm rig is definitely a niche spot. Hopefully Propain sticks with it. I don't need a full on DH because I have to pedal. My next bike will probably be something like this for park mountain riding, and those chunky double blacks I have to pedal with the right gears and seat angle.
@@MTBeginner24 the AL version has the exact same geometry as the CF version (according to the Propain website). The park version (also AL) has a bit different geo.
Good to see Propain getting some exposure. There are some brands that didn't make it because you couldn't find meaningful exposure. 1 brand that comes to mind is Gorilla Gravity. Everyone I know that has the bike loves it but I could never find anything relevant.
Hi Global Team I got myself a Haibike Nduro8 free ride and it’s a monster and equally great just doing normal trails. Discounted as 2023 model to £3999 just so happy with it
Surprisingly, the basic builds aren't as ruinously expensive as I expected. Haven't looked to closely at the spec of the basics though, as it's bedtime.
Curious as to what you think about putting the new Marzocchi Super Z 190mm fork (or the Zeb 190mm) on the CF version to make it lean more toward park, but still nimble enough to pedal up. It would slacken the 63.9 degree head tube closer to the park version but not quite there. I like the longer chain stays on the CF vs the park version. Thoughts?
@@INSTASTABZ Not according to the Propain website. The CF and AL versions have 445, but the park AL version has 435. The extra 20mm of travel in the park version would have a bigger impact on the headtube angle (63.9 vs 63.5) if the chain stays were the same.
Norco made the Shore quite a few years back using basically the same long, low, slack geo defined around 2019ish w/ HP-- whats new since? I know we're going back to longer chainstays, and what used to be shorter travel bikes are getting longer? I am not sure other than Atherton and Forbidden I'm seeing that much progress, yet so much hype - bikes have now become the iphone?
Legitimate question sorry if it is stupid as I'm a mtb noob. Is there any advantage on downhill/park bikes to have the smaller cassettes like the 1x9 over a 1x12. I know you aren't really doing your own pedal climbing but is it just that the 9 speed has closer ratios otherwise why not have the best of both worlds throw on a 1x12 and if you get a tow bonus
1x12 has a lot of advantages. It also has a lot of sacrifices made to get to those advantages. 1x9 can be lighter; the chain, cassette, derailleur, and jockey wheels can be more optimized for the space they occupy; and (if I remember correctly) shifting on a fewer-cog cassette can be done with a shorter derailleur cage making it less likely to get hit on the trail and making any hits less damaging (because there's less leverage due to the shorter derailleur cage). Basically, a 1x9 can do what a 1x12 can do in a more reliable, resilient, and lighter way with the downside of fewer cogs so the gear range isn't as wide-ranging with small steps as the 1x12 can provide.
In dh bikes you dont need 12x and big rear chainrings like 51 or 52 tooths. Dh bikes are only for riding ... downhill. Is that whay you should have gears for fast riding. 9, 8 and even 7 gears its ok. Some dh riders used road casettes, which have max 28 tooth on bigest rear chainring
Maybe this is why MTB sales have cratered. The average rider has no use for a bike this long and slack, and yet influencers and journalists have pushed bikes in this direction for years now. So now Remy Metailler can ride even faster down 60 degree slabs, but who else does this? The fantasy alone won't sell bikes.
Too much marketing in the mtb world right now, when in reality most of us don’t need that much travel or even ride a carbon frame bike and pay a huge amount of money to be over bike
Maybe. But bikes that cost as much as cars are only attractive to a few, and most of this few aren't buying every 'season'.... because the bikes cost as much as cars. Modern mountain bikes are capable. They can survive what most of us subject them to very easily, so should last a while.
Here in Germany I know some MTB skills coaches or guides, who get massive discounts on the mountainbikes from the bike brand their skills coaching/guiding company cooperates with. They sell their used bikes after one year for the same amount of money or maybe even more than they paid for them. Then they buy the newest model for the new season and so on. But normal riders definitely don't buy a new bike every year. It's just too expensive. Also the changes/improvements in bike geometry or components usually aren't very big from one year to another. I personally bought a 26 inch enduro bike about 10 years ago and then I bought a 29 inch enduro bike in 2019. I still ride both bikes and they both are super fun. At the moment I don't see any reason to get a new bike soon. The 29er still feels pretty much up to date and works just fine for me.
If you live in a place that has the gnar, it would be really cool to have a sweet enduro rig that can you can swap in a double crown fork and take to the park. There's a lot of people riding pro lines these days. It's not uncommon.
Im a big fan of Remy and love the look of propain bikes, i wouldn't mind the rage but i probably wouldn't do it justice as i prefer steep knarly tech over jumping( im 💩) but i wouldn't mind thier alloy framed ebike as my knees are pretty shot. 27.5 or mullet, none of this 29 nonsense.🤮 If I had the money id have both, DH and ebike.
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Are you a fan of freeride and the wealth of options available on the new Propain Spindrift? Let us know below 👇
I've been following Remy for awhile Propains are pretty rad...
It's a great replacement for Nukeproof 😢 as a channel sponsor.
I thought about Spindrift, but went with Rage instead, because I have ebike for local trails :)
Same. Been following Remy when he joined Propain.
I had the previous Gen Tyee - I miss it. I’m considering the Spindrift Mx this winter.
Yes
5:18 Blake’s got his rebound MAXXXED lol
Exactly why continued engineering and support to these Bike companies is important because riders keep getting better and the bikes have to keep up
c'mon Blake Swatch Nines is coming up. you have to bring that beauty in there!
Interesting a full 27.5 version, think I’ll take a look
for the aluminum version, the new Spindrift frame is the old Spindrift frame.
so that is good or bad? i mean if spindrift 4 is at least 1k cheaper i would but the 4...not sure i want carbon
@@boogiedownbronx73trickle down economics. You be the judge of that
It is slacker and i think it has shorter STL. Also more silent. You cant really ask more as the spindrift 4 rides amazingly well
@boogiedownbronx73 check out Rémy's latest. He goes over the updates on the 4 vs 5.
If you are into a downhill park bike, it probably won't matter, as we all probably upgrade after purchase.
If you're looking for different geometry updates it may or may not matter. A 180mm rig is definitely a niche spot. Hopefully Propain sticks with it. I don't need a full on DH because I have to pedal. My next bike will probably be something like this for park mountain riding, and those chunky double blacks I have to pedal with the right gears and seat angle.
@@MTBeginner24 the AL version has the exact same geometry as the CF version (according to the Propain website). The park version (also AL) has a bit different geo.
Shoutout Remy!
Watching instagram to see what people do everyday is like playing Call of Duty to see what is war like.
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Good to see Propain getting some exposure. There are some brands that didn't make it because you couldn't find meaningful exposure. 1 brand that comes to mind is Gorilla Gravity. Everyone I know that has the bike loves it but I could never find anything relevant.
Hi Global Team
I got myself a Haibike Nduro8 free ride and it’s a monster and equally great just doing normal trails. Discounted as 2023 model to £3999 just so happy with it
Wicked footage you guys rip! 😎💥💪
surprised to be this early for once
Expect to see those bikes soon , more often. That carbon bike is beautiful. Propain new Nukeproof???
@@marcinlacfik8813 before Brexit maybe, but since then extra taxes make it a bit boutique
I’m a big fan of FR. The Specialized Stumpjumper would be my go-to bike if it was in my budget.
Well thats not a freeride bike
Love this style of bike 🤘
I just got my spindrift 4 bought it cause it was the last models for sale can't ride it yet tho cause I got a broken wrist sadly.
Surprisingly, the basic builds aren't as ruinously expensive as I expected. Haven't looked to closely at the spec of the basics though, as it's bedtime.
Wherever Blake goes I'll watch! 😂 #Swatch9 #Darkfest let's go 🤙
Does it come whit the new x2 damper ?
I am 176 cm tall, what size should I take for this Propain Spindrift?
Curious as to what you think about putting the new Marzocchi Super Z 190mm fork (or the Zeb 190mm) on the CF version to make it lean more toward park, but still nimble enough to pedal up. It would slacken the 63.9 degree head tube closer to the park version but not quite there. I like the longer chain stays on the CF vs the park version. Thoughts?
both have 445 stays
@@INSTASTABZ Not according to the Propain website. The CF and AL versions have 445, but the park AL version has 435. The extra 20mm of travel in the park version would have a bigger impact on the headtube angle (63.9 vs 63.5) if the chain stays were the same.
Norco made the Shore quite a few years back using basically the same long, low, slack geo defined around 2019ish w/ HP-- whats new since? I know we're going back to longer chainstays, and what used to be shorter travel bikes are getting longer?
I am not sure other than Atherton and Forbidden I'm seeing that much progress, yet so much hype - bikes have now become the iphone?
Where is this
They ditched the headset cable routing on this model? The lack of symmetry on the rear triangle has always looked funky to me!
It's an option, but just that! You can decide where your cables route :)
I would love a freeride Emtb as well
Ever heard of ekano AL2?
@@colofonius947 Yes, but comes with 630 battery and Shimano motor, there are options out there with bigger batteries and the Bosch
Great vid 🎉
Thank you!
The future is whatever Red Bull says it is amirite?
Legitimate question sorry if it is stupid as I'm a mtb noob. Is there any advantage on downhill/park bikes to have the smaller cassettes like the 1x9 over a 1x12. I know you aren't really doing your own pedal climbing but is it just that the 9 speed has closer ratios otherwise why not have the best of both worlds throw on a 1x12 and if you get a tow bonus
1x12 has a lot of advantages. It also has a lot of sacrifices made to get to those advantages.
1x9 can be lighter; the chain, cassette, derailleur, and jockey wheels can be more optimized for the space they occupy; and (if I remember correctly) shifting on a fewer-cog cassette can be done with a shorter derailleur cage making it less likely to get hit on the trail and making any hits less damaging (because there's less leverage due to the shorter derailleur cage).
Basically, a 1x9 can do what a 1x12 can do in a more reliable, resilient, and lighter way with the downside of fewer cogs so the gear range isn't as wide-ranging with small steps as the 1x12 can provide.
In dh bikes you dont need 12x and big rear chainrings like 51 or 52 tooths. Dh bikes are only for riding ... downhill. Is that whay you should have gears for fast riding. 9, 8 and even 7 gears its ok. Some dh riders used road casettes, which have max 28 tooth on bigest rear chainring
What are the brakes on Neil’s bike? (The carbon version)
As far as I saw they're Magura MT7.
@@YavorM-YashMT7 Performance
This is basicaly a canyon torque cllctv dh( Fabio Wibmers bike ) but with 10 mm less travel lighter and more pedal efficient
So it's not a Canyon Torque clltv dh?
@@TnFruit it kinda is
How Tall is Blake and what for a Framesize is he riding
What is the difference between the Spindrift al version and the old spindrift al?
0 nothing
Nothing
The cable grommets!!
Geo, cable routing, color
@@DandyHippo geo same apart from CS? or is that same too?
0:36 😮💨
Wow
How much do you think Propain paid them to do this?
Enough 😅
Who names their brand propaine
Germans. Propain is a German company.
@@Tinyairtime it’s called Propain .
@@nxoaxy3394 so they like pain?
What no flips?!!
Not this time 😅 Nines is around the corner 👀
Santa Cruz Nomad's been around for a few years now. For me a V5 with a 180mm fork it's a good balance between freeride & enduro.
Therefore perfect as a city commuter
I got the V6 with a 180 up front - I dare say it may be the best bike I've ridden. 🤘 6:26
Maybe this is why MTB sales have cratered. The average rider has no use for a bike this long and slack, and yet influencers and journalists have pushed bikes in this direction for years now. So now Remy Metailler can ride even faster down 60 degree slabs, but who else does this? The fantasy alone won't sell bikes.
Too much marketing in the mtb world right now, when in reality most of us don’t need that much travel or even ride a carbon frame bike and pay a huge amount of money to be over bike
Maybe. But bikes that cost as much as cars are only attractive to a few, and most of this few aren't buying every 'season'.... because the bikes cost as much as cars.
Modern mountain bikes are capable. They can survive what most of us subject them to very easily, so should last a while.
I don't subscribe to this "new bike every season" thing. I don't know many that can afford to! Regardless, I'm perfectly happy with the bike I have.
Here in Germany I know some MTB skills coaches or guides, who get massive discounts on the mountainbikes from the bike brand their skills coaching/guiding company cooperates with. They sell their used bikes after one year for the same amount of money or maybe even more than they paid for them. Then they buy the newest model for the new season and so on. But normal riders definitely don't buy a new bike every year. It's just too expensive. Also the changes/improvements in bike geometry or components usually aren't very big from one year to another. I personally bought a 26 inch enduro bike about 10 years ago and then I bought a 29 inch enduro bike in 2019. I still ride both bikes and they both are super fun. At the moment I don't see any reason to get a new bike soon. The 29er still feels pretty much up to date and works just fine for me.
If you live in a place that has the gnar, it would be really cool to have a sweet enduro rig that can you can swap in a double crown fork and take to the park. There's a lot of people riding pro lines these days. It's not uncommon.
Im a big fan of Remy and love the look of propain bikes, i wouldn't mind the rage but i probably wouldn't do it justice as i prefer steep knarly tech over jumping( im 💩) but i wouldn't mind thier alloy framed ebike as my knees are pretty shot. 27.5 or mullet, none of this 29 nonsense.🤮 If I had the money id have both, DH and ebike.
only the carbon version look diferent...
Get Blake to dark fest!
Ahhhh... way too light bikes !!! Try all of this on a full power e-mtb! 😝😂 Or ask Arnold Schwarzenegger!
Im the 6th view dont try me
Almost no information at all in this press release
Why do they still use that massive and ugly headtube while they brought proper cablerouting back.
“Dual crown” or “triple clamp”. No such thing as “triple crown”
What's with all the shorts videos ... make a new channel for them leave this channel.longform