Jeep Grand Cherokee 4Xe | Hybrid, Why?
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- We review the new 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4Xe Plug-in Hybrid to discuss what makes it different, good and bad. With a starting price of around $60,000 with standard 4WD, it still offers all terrain abilities. Other options include Toyota 4runner, Kia Telluride, Audi Q5, Volvo XC90, Ford Explorer, and BMW X5.
#jeep #grandcherokee #trucks
Index:
00:00 Interior Impressions
2:18 Mechanical Discussion with Chief Engineer
5:17 Driving Impressions
9:39 Final Thoughts - Авто та транспорт
"Jeep Grand Cherokee 4XE Summit Reserve". This name inspires my imagination to view either an extremely strange bottle of wine I cannot afford or a nature preserve with a bunch of autonomous jeeps roaming around a misty hillside in Oregon living their best free range lives before being captured and given a 3 inch lift.
Genius. Golf clap.
Lmao
It also sounds like a modified sex position.
Given a 3 in lift but left on the stock dueler tires
“Jeepbreaking” (ie Jeep ownership)
The audio system testing graphs you guys show are a quick part of the video but they are such a great resource and it’s awesome to even have that info
I never know what it means so it feels kind of useless to me.
Yes! So grateful they include those.
Agree! I wish more folks would focus on audio as personally that is a huge focus for me if I’m shopping
@@DctorSkillz1 You could spend a couple of minutes educating yourself on what they show or you could just complain.
Either way.
@@tim3172 I don't need some chart to blip on the screen to know if the sound quality of an audio system in a car is good or bad. I've got ears for that.
Pronounced Four BY E. And you have full 375 HP and 470 Lb Ft TQ with a charge or without. The Jeep always keeps at least 15% battery even if it shows empty. They are very expensive yes, but have been extremely popular. At least the Wrangler 4XE.
Yes. I have 15K miles on my 4XE. It always has approx 15% battery. How does it not deplete that last 15%? It aggressively recharges the battery off the gas engine at zero range which allows full power battery assistance when needed.
"Oh it has great fuel mileage" Proceeds to pay a $25,000 premium for marginally better fuel economy.
Worse on highway after you've drained the battery... And you might save $5k on gas using the plug in aspect before the batteries are shot
4xe's lease better because of the tax credit, so they're actually less than the gas equivalent.
On a 120 mile trip I got 28 mpg average in mine even after the battery was depleted 🤷🏼♂️ Also, on short local trips or my commute to work which is all less than 25 mi, it works perfect in all electric mode, which is where you really get the most utility out of it being a PHEV
I have owned a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4XE for 19 months and have averaged 37mpg lifetime. Many of our trips are less than 25 miles round trip multiple times per day, and we have a Level 2 charger so it takes about 1 hour to get 70% charge when at 0% and about 1 hour 45 minutes to get a full charge. We also own a Tesla Model 3 Performance and often go months without putting gas in the Jeep. As long as your not taking longer trips the hybrid range works great.
I had a grand Cherokee for a rental a while back. Yes the piano black was DESTROYED at 12,500 miles. It was a 3.6 and over 1350 miles, I averaged around 25 MPG hauling several hundred pounds of IT garbage. Overall, I quite liked it. But at the mid to high 40s, I thought it was a little expensive for what it was. However, of the 'domestics' it's far better than the exploder and the blazer/traverse. They do need to work on their radar cruise systems though, it's very harsh and loves to get to whatever distance you set as fast as possible
Interior PPF is a thing and should be the first thing done for anyone buying this
@@cwx8 it still will look nasty with ppf
Concur. I drove a 2022 Blazer rental with the piano black. After 24k miles it already looked like a cat’s scratching board .
Exploder 😂
@@cwx8 No I don't want plastic wrapped black garbage.
When you drive a hybrid you have to drive them a certain way in order to truly extract all the range and mpg. You have to find the mpg zone, gliding, braking to gain the most charge. Plus this thing weighs nearly what a full size 1500 does, which is crazy considering its midsize. But considering most people that actually buy this thing make 150k plus are never going to obsess over the mpg. They will plug it in at home, drive, fill it up once a month and repeat. Then it becomes what's the point of it.
You nailed it - it’s basically a vanity hybrid.
I understand that you review what you get, but it really is a disservice to give you an $80k top trim Jeep. At ~$60k and a $7500 tax credit a lower trim GC 4xe makes a ton of sense. I have the Wrangler 4xe and almost all my non-road-trip miles are in EV mode, which works fantastically for me. I also got mine when Stellantis was blowing these out on super cheap lease deals, which were fantastic.
I always though it was supposed to be "Four By E." Unless the choice was intentional as making fun of the hybrid designation?
It is "four by e"
It is. I wonder if he says 4ex4 also.
The guy is a moron. If course it's "four by e"
I gotta say I'm really impressed by 4xe and addicted to the power! Got it sideways in the wet yesterday and had a good laugh. We have a 3.6 GCL and received a 4xe Trailhawk loaner for this past week. The combination of the extra power and air suspension is a huge leap forward. Despite the off-road wrangler tiers, the turn-in is crisp and the body control is way better with the shorter wheelbase and air suspension. As someone who couldn't stomach the 14mpgs of the V8, the 4xe makes sense if you want the power without the guilt and shame of the hemi.
Confident Jeep will sell tens of these.
The interior looks very nice besides the piano-black, the screen is also nicely worked into the dash.
Whoa...saw Coolio on the infotainment screen...he JUST passed away......im sure this was filmed before that happend. Freaky!
Came to say the same. He's gone on his final Fantastic Voyage.
Nice little Coolio tribute at 5:07 ... RIP
Powertrains aside, this car is beautiful.
Here in Canada this vehicle gets into the 115K range. Still, it does have features that most SUVs do not have. The rear entertainment system and integration with passenger screen is pretty one of a kind and is more useful than anyone without kids will ever understand. The problem we ran into is the feedback that this thing doesn't really get notable fuel economy due to the massive weight gain. From there you add in questions about reliability and now it gets quite difficult to justify. Right now they have discontinued the V8 offering in the 5-seater which is a fairly good indicator that the 3.0L twin turbo inline 6 "Hurricane" motor is on the way which should make for a highly competitive offering.
I don’t know anyone that can afford a $75k vehicle let alone a this pig.
I don't see any use for those extra screen. I would say leather in the dash is FAR better than that screen.
Don't expect magical fuel economy improvements.
Dude. Rear infotainment has been around for 20+ years. It's not a Jeep specialty. Also, if you need your kids glued to a screen while driving...you're doing life wrong
@@jalopy2472 I didn't say anything about reliability.
I like this channel bc you cover a lot of the cars I see at the car wash I work at every day
Do all car washes scratch paint?
fit and finish by the headlight at :32. lol
Damn, that bumper is pulling away… maybe because it’s a press car that gets thrashed?
You said a lot in a short amount of time. Well done
Wow! Great review!
Great job Jack!
I wish all hybrids worked like the 4Xe system. I wish I can say drive town in all ev and then when I hop on the highway or go on a road trip and use the gas engine. Think about, if a parent is running errands around town all week they could technically be using all electric mode the entire time (givin they remembered to plug it in at some point). Then the weekend comes and you wanna take the family out of town, you have the gas engine for that. All week long you didn't use any gas and now you have the option to go on a short weekend trip and not have to worry about charging the entire time. Its the flexibility/options that it gives you that makes it superior to other plug-ins which don't give you those options. Best of both worlds vs having say a tesla for around town and a gas gran cherokee for the weekends. Also allows you to save on car/insurance payments.
This was the side of this SUV that had been ignored by this review.
So the review was short sighted and one sighted in this regard
Holy gloss black, Batman! I've always thought of Jeep products as bargain bin, cost-cutting junk. I still can't look at this car and imagine anyone saying "yes" to spending over $50k on it. At $close to $90k, you have to be the world's biggest sucker.
Okay
Its competing with Range Rovers now, not Ford Explorers. Jeep is far more upscale and has 4wd that you can only find in Land Rovers.
You guys see Alex on Autos review of the GC 4xe? He says the Jeep on-board trip computer is wrong, or, it doesn't calculate mpg like other PHEVs. Apparently, when in hybrid mode, it calculates miles driven using the battery differently, resulting in lower mpg than actual (or something like that)...Any thoughts? Would you change your impressions if the real mpg was noticeably higher?
Poor Coolio didn’t get to see his debut on Savagegeese.
Spot on everything you brought up. I ended up with the Overland 4XE. I do like the sound system. You need to tweak it and play a bit and you get it right. The overall price vs to what you get all around is really not bad. The Summit vs the Overland is drastically high. Was not worth it for me. I have to say that it does ride like a Range Rover. I do ride 25 miles to work and so one way + a bit is all electric. No problems by me. I do recommend to instal a level 2 charger for future cars.
Nice to see the they brought Patagonia back as a sponsor.
You mention the Lexus RX, but wouldn't the GX but a more equivalent competitor given the price and offroad capabilities?
This powertrain is good for city driving. I have it in my sahara and around town its great. I fill up once every 3 weeks. If you're going to be doing long highway commutes you are better off with the diesel
The EcoDiesel is dead in the USA. Unfortunately.
I fill up my GTI every 3 weeks.
Props for the Coolio cameo. R.I.P.
How would you compare the interior against the new X3?
Some people consider themselves lucky enough to beat the Stellantis odds and lease this thing. The crazier and self abusive among us might even buy it. But you would have to be a LUNATIC to keep this out of warranty.
But congrats to the techs at the Jeeps dealerships. This one might put your son or daughter through college.
fuel pump relay still on the PCB?
My girlfriend and I are looking to get a plug-in hybrid SUV in about 2 years. This was top of my list. She works mostly from home, and my commute is under 10 miles one way. But as someone that works in the car biz and drives a lot of different models, your criticism is usually spot on. Otherwise she likes the RDX. Maybe Acura will come out with a hybrid treatment on that soon
FWIW, I have a BMW X5 45e, and I'd recommend it. I think the criticism of the smaller ICE's is somewhat misplaced; under "normal" driving conditions, the X5 will preserve/generate enough electricity that it'll effectively always be there when it's needed, and it feels like it has the combined torque, while getting much better city mileage (and cheaper EV operation for trips around home). That said, you're not likely to save enough money to justify the price of a PHEV, so only get one if you like the other factors (eg: instant torque from stop even with engine off, quiet local driving, etc.), imho.
Put a deposit down on a rav4 prime it will show up to the dealer in about 2 yeats
Have you checked out the Volvo XC60 or XC90 Recharge?
@@Nick-jq5nl I got in one of those recently and really liked it. It would be towards the top of my list, however she didn’t like the X5 when I showed her. She’s picky and has particular taste lol. I have a 22 RAM Rebel, and she has a 12 Civic that barely gets driven. Hence why there’s no immediate need to replace it. With all the electric cars being unveiled we may just skip the PHEV step.
@@erikn.7540 I myself am not a fan of modern Volvos, but I have not had her check out any. I'll have to add it to the list.
I have the Wrangler 4xE and I love it. I plug it in to a 120V wall outlet every night and I always have electric range for hybrid driving. My commute is 45 miles downhill where I only use the gas engine and 45 miles uphill where I blast through the electric battery in hybrid mode with 3-5 miles left to go, so I'm a BIT outside the use case of this vehicle, and I am still averaging 27MPG! If I did light city driving I could see getting MPG into the upper 30s low 40s. Also love the acceleration on this thing (faster than the 392). Regardless, I have a new wrangler that I got a shitload of tax credits for that gets 7+ MPG better than a base wrangler (more like 9+) so I'm happy
I'm two months into my Wrangler 4xe Rubicon, and at 1,100 miles I'm averaging 32mpg. The first 300 miles of that was almost entirely in e-save to break in the ICE, so that mpg has been and will keep continuing to climb. The Jeep came with a full tank of gas and I've only filled it once. Still have 1/4 of that tank to go. The 4xe definitely isn't for everyone, but if you live in a city or drive low enough miles every day, it can be quite efficient for a 5,300lb truck shaped like a stack of bricks.
@@FullySpooled That last point is really important! There's a reason every EV has curves/teardrop shapes, aero is really important for battery vehicles (miles per kWh). The Wrangler is quite literally the worst at this XD
I love my Wrangler 4xe as well! It isn't unusual for my to get 60+ mpg as my commute is about 5 miles further than the range. I have also done up to 34 miles on a single charge which is more than 50% further than the advertised range. I felt like in this review he was comparing it to an pure electric vehicle. A lot of PEHV's do poorly on the highway when you compare to their gas counter part once the battery runs out. Hybrid is great for communiting... If you want great gas mileage on long drives. Get the Diesel!
@@cabletvguy I've never seen a reviewer do hybrids justice in their review (at least Jeep hybrids lol) and as long as you don't live in Texas and drive 3 hours a day (ok i'm being facetious) it can be a great application!
So my f150 Powerboost (standard hybrid) I average around 24mpg. It kicks off the engine going down hill with little throttle input and cuts off when gently braking. with this having a big electric range, how does it act when the battery is done? does it just keep the engine on until it gets to a certain charge level?
Brutally honest, thanks
I have a 2019 Durango with the 3.6, we get 19mpg around town and 25 highway.
I can guarantee to you it’s not if the air ride suspension goes out it’s when.
over 80k and mine still works. I also start looking at a new SUV at this time also. I don't like outdated tech and this one tech was outdated the moment the new model came out.
Mine is 5 years old and has well over 100k miles on it with no air suspension issues. But nothing lasts forever without problems. Same concept for the engine or transmission on any car. Keep it long enough and those will eventually fail too.
I’ve owned both the 6 and 8 cylinder. No complaints.
The bump in lower frequencies can most likely be adjusted.
I drove 100 miles in hybrid mode from the dealership where I purchased my summit reserve 4xE. It barely used any gasoline at all. Maybe I’m not as refined as the gentleman in the video but the inside looks fabulous. It’s mostly leather and wood in the interior. Granted there is some Piano black material where you can see lots of fingerprints. I can understand that people wouldn’t like this material but if you take the time to clean it, it does look good. The McIntosh audio system in this Jeep is one of the best. My experience so far with this vehicle has been positive. The only negative thing is that you can’t go into electric only mode in the winter.
Good to hear someone else's opinion on this guy's talking points. Interesting to know that you can't do electric only in winter. I wonder what it considers winter because I'm in Texas and it doesn't get all that cold. I will add that the piano black is not only a beast to keep clean, but it scratches very easily. So yeah, you can wipe it constantly and try to keep it nice, but it's still going to get all scratched up before long and that will look like crap. It's too bad they don't offer a different option for that area. My wife's BMW X3M also has the piano black and I hate it.
the funny thing is Piano black is the hardest plastic component to produce. Different from the Wrangler the Grand Cherokee is 2 batteries on either side, the torque converter is replaced by the electric motors so all starts are electric dependent, ZF unit. And don't trust the trip computer for some reason Jeep uses 54mpg on electric for some odd reason. Hand calculation are consistently 10mpg over.
Really good review. I 100% agree with you on the 4xe, although Jeep improved on it for the 2024 model. Its smoother but just not very practical for my use. I just bought a Grand Cherokee Summit with the V6. It has plenty of power and its a very quiet engine. The interior is impressive. It has 4 zone climate control, night vision with object warning, ventilated and cooling front seats, semi-autonomous driving, all the safety features you can possibly think of, air suspension, passenger side high res screen built right into the dashboard (can't even tell its there), real wood trim even on the steering wheel, etc etc etc for $66k. Its a lot of money but its also the swiss army knife of SUV's for driving around town, long hauls, bad weather and even off road. I owned 2 Mercedes GLE 350's but they are well over $80k with same options as the Grand Cherokee Summit. I've only had it for a week and so far I'm very impressed. It even has Alexa and its a very good implementation. It works exactly like Alexa devices in your home as its very responsive. I agree the MacIntosh 19 speaker 950 watt stereo is good but not great but its also not nearly as expensive as the Bowers & Wilkins. You can also get a well appointed Grand Cherokee Limited for around $50K. I also thought about the RX350 but the Grand Cherokee has a larger interior and that sloping back hatch cuts off storage space.
You guys are the best! Why does everybody say 4Xe wrong? It’s supposed to be said like 4X4(4 by 4). It’s meant to be Play on words, 4 by e!
The wild thing is how much you can get these for now in Spring 2024. Looking at the new LandCruiser with 10k markups, the new Ranger Raptor with 10k markups, and the new Tacoma with 10k markups, I decided to just "check on" Jeep prices. My local dealer has a Trailhawk 4xe (stickered at $67k MSRP) listed for $51k BEFORE the $7500 PHEV rebate... I called to confirm, and they will roll that into a lease for $43,500. That's 35% off MSRP! I've never seen that on a new car.
Need a 4xe version of the Compass!
Nice thick layer from the redeye.
The real questions for this 5k lb suv are if there's a true "driver's connection to the road", has aluminum knuckles, and has knobs for volume and hvac controls. The holy trinity for this channel.
I have the base 4xe, 61000.00. I am estimating my first tank of gas will get me to 1,000 miles. That is on 19 gallons! I drive 16 miles to work, and occasional trips further. I love it, always will get me to work!
Do not complain about the almost 80.000$ price, it STARTS from 96.000 euros in Italy (like 100.000$)
I just traded my beloved 2018 Jeep SRT for a brand new BMW X545e plug in Hybrid. I test drove the 4xe jeep and the thrashy engine and well known electrical issues scared me away. Not to mention the quality and technology compared to the BMW. The BMW can tow around 6,000 lbs with its TURBO SIX! My X5 goes 0-60 faster than my 16MPG SRT did, and does 30 miles electric (In the USA) on a charge. The comfort, quality, power and incredible technology, and similar price made it a no brainer. I have a new love in my life
Is that the same air ride that’s been failing on the ram trucks?
At $80k*, STELANTIS is saying “we don’t really want to sell many of these”.
Will 2022 models be at dealers prior to 2023? The inability to even test drive one of these makes them a pretty hard sell.
Jeep had one of the best sound systems back in 96'.
Infinity Gold by Jeep. 😂
Still have the Sample CD that came with it.
@@upshifter5316 thank you!!!
The crappy 3.6 V6 gets better mpg and the hemi is right there with the 4 banger . Both gas counter parts are less complex and give full power all the time..damn the future is dark. Let’s go brandon…time for the red wave people wake up
FYI, The 4 BY E reserves 15% of battery capacity at all times so you always have full 375 horsepower on tap. Only time you wouldn't is when you're using electric only.
These also lease for less than $20k bc Stellantis factors in the tax credit. Driving a $66k vehicle around for under $7k a year (that also saves you $75/mo on gas) is pretty nice.
Can't you put some protective film on that piano black ❓🤷♂🤔
The interior is good looking but when you cross than 60k barrier you vehicle has be excellent. If you ignore the subjective stuff the luxury brands have very strong all around products in this range. You can't show up with so so fuel economy and so so refinement. That ultimately shows the difference between a car that was built to start at 40k and one than designed with a 60k start but options up to that same 79k.
Nice take!
No, the interior isn't good looking. A $18k Nissan Versa has a nicer interior.
I think the 4xe drivetrain is for the commuters within the battery range to live primarily as an EV. For refinement you go with the V8.
V8 will always win on refinement.
Would think those commuters would be much better served getting an actual EV and not lugging around a dormant engine and transmission.
@@airdrummond241 It's for the "whatabout" people who swear they need a gas engine for the 1-2 road trips they take a year that exceed the range of a normal EV.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566
Aside from my LS400, I’ve had more inline sixes that were smoother than most V8s.
@@KT_One Yes, the I6 and derivatives are the only mathematically fully balanced engines.
Wish Jeep wasnt trying to lean more on the luxury side with the price to match, it was an amazing mid level option that left you pleased for the value and capability now they messed that up
Good vidya
Yep that how I would go.
FYI: Audio in the Driving Impressions portion sounded 'canny'
I guess PHEV were developed as a way of “tricking” some existing legistation on taxes and emissions which is already changing in many cases, making them less advantageous. Still if used properly I guess they can become a good everyday use proposition. But is it really necessary to use a huge SUV for commuting?
I don't think they were developed as a way to trick anything. I see PHEVs as more of a bridge between ICE and pure EV until the time pure EVs can handle long distance travel with the ease of ICE. The EV range of most PHEVs work well for people who really have daily commutes/errands where they really are driving 30 miles or less daily and can charge at home. While the hybrid/ICE part of the equation can handle long distance travel.
Great Review. I totally agree. This powertrain does not fit this vehicle at this price.
Nice little Coolio triibute fellas.
Unless you are looking for a mid-size or larger, for Plug-in Hybrid SUV, I'd say the best one is the Toyota RAV4 Prime. But this car is very hard to get, you will have to pay premium price.
I have no interest in this car. However your description seemed spot on ; clear,informative, practical and entertaining ( consdering this vehicle is boring and ovepriced)Thanks Jack.
This is a PHEV not a hybrid! I have a '21 RX450h and just bought the 4xe with Lux II package. With the tax credit, the base 4xe can be had under $60K. This review is of the top trim Summit Reserve of the 4xe, but the base is very well equipped. It's wrong in comparing it to the Explorer or the Passport, neither offer a PHEV SUV, and the Explorer hybrid does not get MPG's like the 4xe. I have a short commute, so "e" mode works well for that 12 mile round trip. You can't run just battery on the Explorer hybrid , Passport (no battery) or the RX450h. I never get over 28MPG in the Lexus, I'm getting over 30 in hybrid mode in the 4xe and it does not take premium gas like the Lexus (or BMW). I'm still on my first tank of gas, 2 tanks in on the RX450h in the same time. You can't get a X5 with the options the base 4xe has with the Lux II package under $75K- no ventilated seats for example. I agree on the hybrid of Lexus being smoother, but the 4xe moves when you push the gas- give me gears over a CVT any day.
2:09 maybe in the next refresh
Why ? Is an excellent question…….the v6 gets basically the same mpg as 4xe…….except for electric only range, which isn’t much. I wouldn’t trust Jeep with hybrid technology……yet.
Same as most plug-in hybrids: if you can charge it at home or work and your regular commute is within the battery range, it makes a lot of sense. If you live out in the boonies, it's pointless and you'd be better off with the V6 or V8. I live in NYC and I've seen a surprising number of Wrangler 4xe so far, not sure if people are buying them for practical reasons or just because it's the latest newfangled toy.
V6 also doesn't have 375hp and 470tq
The 4Xe makes vastly more power and torque too
Great Easter egg shout out to Coolio - RIP
When I think of long term high tech longevity, I think of French Fiat-Chrysler.
I guess it MIGHT last the warranty period, and hits some government regulatory numbers.
jeez that panel gap @ 0:31
Range Rover Sport PHEV has 38 kWh battery and Level 3 CCS fast charging, so it's a great example but quite a bit more expensive, up over $120K.
We have a Wrangler 4Xe and love it. It is my wife's daily and it is perfect for her commute. Our best tank of fuel was about 1200 miles and this current tank should be over 2000 miles. Is the hybrid system perfect? No, but it is a good first attempt for Jeep. Riding around town, it feels like a big golf cart. Do we plan on keeping it long-term? No. Hopefully, by the time the lease is up, Jeep will up their hybrid game and the 2025 Wrangler will be leaps and bounds better.
Mark must have a phobia of Stellantis products and PHEVS.
It really is an oddity. Like, the Pacifica Hybrid I totally get. A PHEV people mover (I own one) with 32 miles of electric range to cover most commutes. But at this price..? Why on earth would you get this over the BMW x5 xDrive45e my parents bought? This jeep goes 0-60 in 6.1 seconds vs the BMW at 4.7s, the BMW has 31 miles of electric range vs the Jeep's 25, my parents average 28 mpg all day vs the jeep at 21. Must be a Jeep thing I guess.
The hybrid drive will never le the battery deplete fully, 99.9% of the time you will have full output if you get on it, even with 0 indicated EV range.
There is a lot of talk about the 4Xe having problems in the cold. Something about fuel and oil lock up. A lot of them were returned up here in Alaska.
I don’t see this becoming the new Banana for Matt’s off-road recovery.
😂
You can get a base 4Xe (Limited trim essentially) for the $50k range which is nice. We have the Grand Cherokee L Limited. I wish the 4Xe came in the L model
Base is 58 i think. Which is a ton of money imo.
@@jackholmes8105 price must’ve gone up, last I checked when the 4Xe first dropped I want to say it was $54-$55k. In my state, between state and federal rebates for driving a plug in hybrid, you get a nearly $12k tax credit
How can McIntosh let their name be used and have a system that sounds less than stellar? That name promises something like what B&W delivers. Wow.
I called this when it was first announced unfortunately.
I think it’s the same reason Porsche makes so many suvs.
License out their name and they probably made as much on that as the rest of their product line for the year.
So the cash let’s them continue delivering the home products that are actually good.
@@upshifter5316 Porsche makes SUVs because they sell a ton of them at high profit margins.
Have you ever... driven a Porsche SUV? The Macan GTS is awesome to drive and sounds amazing in real life.
There's nothing cheap or down market about them.
@@tim3172 didn’t mean to imply Porsche suvs are anything other than terrific. Rather that it’s not what we traditionally want from Porsche. You did help make my point that they make buckoo bux off them, so that they can continue to produce products purists expect from Porsche (McIntosh).
In the Costco sound bar and Bluetooth era, I suspect takers for high end audio equipment with blue dials has slowed, and so in desperate times comes…. Off brand licensing deals.
This will be a great tool for sales people everywhere. "Yeah it has tons of power, great mileage, and it saves the environment. Literally no downsides. It's honestly the only responsible way to get around."
Having sold Volvo among many other brands. The high-end Volvo audio systems can't hold a candle to the 22(23?) Harman Kardon system. That system is remarkably clear, has a wide range, and much deeper base. I don't know why this system isn't in the Jeep. I guess the name plate of Harman Kardon isn't seen as the same level, but the performance of that system is amazing.
H/K is not the same everywhere you see the badge.
What vehicle are you referring to?
I literally auditioned the H/K in a Ram 1500 yesterday and found it extremely disappointing. Probably had a curve similar to this Jeep with over abundant, muddy lows and the mods and highs were extremely under powered , and in addition the staging and imaging was very poor.
This was tested on lossless audio tracks.
Wish FCA/Stellantis could have gone full electric much faster - it's right in their power stroke for high-torque systems. Near-term profits must have been too hard to ignore.
One of the other reasons to buy it is government grants and credits though, just to mention it.
Man. Disappointed in myself as in my head I’ve called it “4 by e” and not “4 x e”. Another lesson from the School of Jack.
The skid marks on that road 🤣
They should have put a V6 with the hybrid motors.
80k wow, interesting times we are living in
The price premium of this over the 3.6 is pretty hard to justify. Of course Stellantis has been developing a turbo straight six for it's platforms. If they don't totally mess it up, that should be a very smooth powerplant. Probably not B58 smooth, but sixes are naturally very smooth. The mileage, at 21mpg, is pretty bad. I'd bet you'd come close to that with the Pentastar V6, since it's not dragging around a heavy battery pack.
What happened to the other guy? Is there a difft host on this channel?!
The Limited without the McIntosh sounds very good. Shame the top option sucks.
Sales for the summit reserve may suffer thx to the federal reserve
I have a 2014 Jeep GC Summit Eco Diesel, and I paid $18k under the MSRP (58k) when I bought it new. With the economy tanking and cars components shortages easing up, they will not be able to give these away in few months.
Savage!
There are hundreds of these sitting at my dealer. Even with the 12.5k in incentives no one wants to bite lol