Will The Tesla Roadster Ever Come Out?

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  • In this clip, Marques and Miles try to make sense of the new updates that Elon is promising for the upcoming Roadster.
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  • @SuchBigglesworthy
    @SuchBigglesworthy 2 місяці тому +437

    27:25 - "7g for 6 seconds could make a person black out" - After accelerating at 7g for 6 seconds, you are going 920 mph, so I don't think this will be a concern

    • @bigdaddy69420
      @bigdaddy69420 2 місяці тому +14

      "I dont think you have the facilities for that mans"

    • @Mercilessonion
      @Mercilessonion 2 місяці тому +16

      7g for 1 second is 252kmph or 160 mph, that's lots

    • @jarinthemood2000
      @jarinthemood2000 2 місяці тому +17

      Oh I get it, the 600 mile range assumed that you wanted to travel the 600 miles in the next 30 minutes.

    • @matroas
      @matroas 2 місяці тому +1

      How dare you doubt Elon’s genius.

    • @TronchedeCake-ws7sd
      @TronchedeCake-ws7sd 2 місяці тому +1

      well Elon did say that the car will be way better than advertised

  • @jakesiu7773
    @jakesiu7773 2 місяці тому +456

    It's ridiculous that they took the full payment and didn't deliver the product in a reasonable time frame.

    • @onsokumaru4663
      @onsokumaru4663 2 місяці тому +67

      That's what people love about tesla when they make empty promises.

    • @jakesiu7773
      @jakesiu7773 2 місяці тому +60

      ​@onsokumaru4663 I bet when/if the roadster actually hits the market...they gonna ask for additional $50-$100k.

    • @EarlyNai
      @EarlyNai 2 місяці тому

      It's just a scheme to get free funding

    • @antman7673
      @antman7673 2 місяці тому +10

      @@jakesiu7773
      You have to consider inflation by then.

    • @benjones5799
      @benjones5799 2 місяці тому +16

      They don't take full payment. Cybertruck for example was $100 deposit and the roadster was a $5000 deposit. Reality being if you can afford the roadster, 5k is like 20 bucks

  • @dannymartial7997
    @dannymartial7997 2 місяці тому +509

    The last time Tesla prematurely unveiled something, all their competitors started designing, producing, AND shipping pickup trucks before Tesla could. Watch Dodge come out with a gas thruster Charger before the Roadster 😂

    • @savitajadhav1314
      @savitajadhav1314 2 місяці тому +10

      Completely agree 😂😂

    • @slopedarmor
      @slopedarmor 2 місяці тому +17

      Tesla could still be the first to ship a bev truck that they make a profit on tho. Ford is still losing 40k per truck and gm will never make a profit on the hummer ev. I think the cybertruck is cheaper to produce than those.

    • @Fissan_Poulsen
      @Fissan_Poulsen 2 місяці тому +11

      No one knows the names of all Tesla's competitors' vehicles, but everyone knows and talks about the Cybertruck.

    • @benedictuswinner3995
      @benedictuswinner3995 2 місяці тому +13

      ​@@slopedarmor they dont rust 😂

    • @slopedarmor
      @slopedarmor 2 місяці тому +11

      @benedictuswinner3995 nothing to worry about, if you look at pictures of deloreans that have been sitting abandoned outside for years, the stainless still looks great. Plus, ive seen plenty of f150s with a lot of rust.

  • @maadmaxx123
    @maadmaxx123 2 місяці тому +230

    Next gen Tesla Roadster is turning into Half Life 3

    • @FabioRigokimbaorso
      @FabioRigokimbaorso 2 місяці тому +10

      Yes pure vaporware ..

    • @tpad6
      @tpad6 2 місяці тому +5

      Someday Gabe Newell will collab with Elon Musk and release a SpaceX/Valve/Tesla Roadster with Gravity Gun Technology to make it fly.

    • @Fissan_Poulsen
      @Fissan_Poulsen 2 місяці тому +5

      Just like the Cybertruck right?

    • @DeepThinker193
      @DeepThinker193 2 місяці тому +2

      I think they were about to release the Roadster at one point, but then Elon took an arrow to the knee.

    • @slick3996
      @slick3996 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Fissan_Poulsen you seem to be glazing the cybertruck a lot for such a poor quality car

  • @MarcStollmeyer
    @MarcStollmeyer 2 місяці тому +112

    Fun fact Tesla doesn’t have a functioning refund process for the Roadster.

  • @swanauto47
    @swanauto47 2 місяці тому +14

    I was talking with a Porsche salesman one time and I asked him who would ever buy an electric Boxter and he answered, “all those people that never got their tesla roadster, they can go buy one”

  • @ch3burashka
    @ch3burashka 2 місяці тому +102

    He made a tweet, and got 30 minutes of airtime. He got a screaming deal.

    • @Beepboop783
      @Beepboop783 2 місяці тому +11

      At the expense of the publics view of him and his company, sure

    • @kingiam9271
      @kingiam9271 2 місяці тому +2

      Elon needs to pump tesla stock, he has to sell more shares to cover twitter

  • @douglasdangelo6755
    @douglasdangelo6755 2 місяці тому +9

    In true Tesla fashion it will underdeliver in performance, be way behind schedule, and completely overshoot it's price point

  • @hiratiomasterson4009
    @hiratiomasterson4009 2 місяці тому +59

    There is pretty much 0 chance any insurance company will accept a policy on a car that is designed to lose contact with the road surface - and the impact that has on direction control and braking. But cold thrusters that turn on briefly to shorten braking distances from higher speeds (by thrusting against the direction of travel or vertically downward), increases cornering grip or provide a bit extra acceleration during passing...that will be of great interest.

    • @deej628
      @deej628 2 місяці тому +13

      Good thing Tesla has their own ins.

    • @whschopke98
      @whschopke98 2 місяці тому +5

      You just gave me a totally different perspective on the thrusters. If they are omnidirectional and help with stability and performance in breaking and turns, this car could break so many track records!!

    • @ugk26
      @ugk26 2 місяці тому

      I have unlimited coverage for any vehicle. So it’s most likely possible. But I totally get what you’re saying.

    • @Glock7eventeen
      @Glock7eventeen 2 місяці тому +1

      Tesla has their own insurance company lmao

    • @Briggsian
      @Briggsian 2 місяці тому +1

      It's highly unlikely that there is sufficient volume available in the car to allow for a long duration impulse from a thruster with sufficient force to aid cornering. Last thing you'd want is to lose grip part way through a turn because the thrust only lasts a fraction of a second. Realistically, this would only be beneficial for acceleration runs, the tank would be completely emptied with each launch, and it would take a few minutes between runs to refill the tanks and reheat the thruster system. The thrusters would also be incredibly loud, so you'd definitely want ear protection for anyone nearby. Just think about how loud an air blow gun is (108db), and those only produce about 1 pound of thrust. Sound regulations limit passenger cars to between 85 and 95db.

  • @AnthonyTaylor
    @AnthonyTaylor 2 місяці тому +23

    Cold gas thrusters is just a fancy name for CO2 canisters lol. So imagine having to find a place to refill your car with C02.

    • @pipsohio
      @pipsohio 2 місяці тому +3

      Don’t worry it will have on board co2 generators and compressors too!

    • @knoblauchhusten
      @knoblauchhusten 2 місяці тому +1

      And a valve and nozzle

    • @toddr.lockwood843
      @toddr.lockwood843 2 місяці тому +2

      Those CO2 "canisters" are made out of carbon fiber and stainless steel by SpaceX. They have to contain 10,000 psi of air, way beyond a scuba tank.

  • @amonrei
    @amonrei 2 місяці тому +48

    Maybe Elon saw that one Tom Scott video of a tiny car doing 0 to 100 km/h in 0.956 second.

  • @Zoolookuk
    @Zoolookuk 2 місяці тому +10

    I kind of decided a few years ago that anyone defending Tesla’s ridiculous promises was no longer trustworthy about anything. I say that as a long time Tesla owner.

  • @anonimous__user
    @anonimous__user 2 місяці тому +239

    Stop giving Elon Musk credit. I'm so tired of his lies.

    • @joegeezly9613
      @joegeezly9613 27 днів тому +18

      Who cares about the timelines, you’re not getting one anyway.

    • @anonimous__user
      @anonimous__user 26 днів тому +3

      What?

    • @antman7673
      @antman7673 25 днів тому +15

      ⁠​⁠@@joegeezly9613
      When it never comes out and no one gets what was promised.
      -Will you then care about timelines?

    • @joegeezly9613
      @joegeezly9613 25 днів тому +2

      @@antman7673 it will come out..

    • @nftsasha
      @nftsasha 25 днів тому +4

      what lies bro? teslas are best cars out there, fsd is the best supervised autopilot, their batteries are the best (cars, home, AND commercial), etc etc. Stop hatin, start readin

  • @dustintrombly
    @dustintrombly 2 місяці тому +13

    The Top Thrill Dragster roller coaster at Cedar Point does 0-60 in 1.2 seconds. Lots of people, including myself, have experienced that. I can’t imagine being in a car that could even match that acceleration.

    • @phdonme1
      @phdonme1 12 днів тому +1

      Don't worry you won't cuz it's never coming out

  • @finnjacobs
    @finnjacobs 2 місяці тому +144

    Waveform "clips"
    Posts a clip of half an hour long

    • @GNAUT115
      @GNAUT115 2 місяці тому +2

      Hahah

    • @magz0808
      @magz0808 2 місяці тому +13

      I mean, to be pedantic, length is irrelevant, if the original source its cut from is longer, its a clip.

    • @finnjacobs
      @finnjacobs 2 місяці тому +5

      @@magz0808 yeah I guess you're right, but in the context that most people think of when they hear the word clip is a way shorter video in this case

    • @KiegKillsReality
      @KiegKillsReality 2 місяці тому +2

      I mean yeah but I’m not complaining! This is great!

    • @codycast
      @codycast 2 місяці тому

      I’m just glad it’s not vertical looping trash.

  • @kingiam9271
    @kingiam9271 2 місяці тому +11

    Elon needs to pump tesla stock, he has to sell more shares to cover twitter

  • @chrisogrady28
    @chrisogrady28 2 місяці тому +16

    Roller coaster enthusiast here, the fastest accelerating in the world is Do-Dodonpa in Japan, it goes 0-112 mph in 1.56 seconds. Roaster is slow as shit aha.
    Do-Dodonpa is currently not operating though as people kept sustaining injuries from the acceleration G force (and probably not having their heads back). The fastest accelerating coaster currently operating is possibly Stealth at Thorpe Park which does 0-80mph in 1.9 seconds, so most likely thats 0-60 in under 1.5 too.
    Also at 26:49 this is incorrect, these G force numbers refer to vertical acceleration, not forwards. The reason you black out is the blood draining from your brain which only happens at these G forces when it's vertical. So this would only happen in a fast car if you were laid on your front.

    • @matteoalvarez5532
      @matteoalvarez5532 2 місяці тому +1

      didn’t expect to see another thoosie here

    • @chrisogrady28
      @chrisogrady28 2 місяці тому

      @@matteoalvarez5532 it's v sad that since writing this they announced that do-dodonpa won't reopen 😭😭😭

    • @matteoalvarez5532
      @matteoalvarez5532 2 місяці тому +1

      @@chrisogrady28 yeah, it sucks

    • @tineursic9481
      @tineursic9481 24 дні тому

      Been on Formula Rossa at Ferrari World in Abu Dhabi. 0-240km/h (150mph) in under 5s, near 5Gs. Pretty fast.

  • @mrb2349
    @mrb2349 2 місяці тому +7

    Those thrusters would require tanks so large/pressurized that if ruptured, would explode like a crate of TNT.

    • @origaminefretami3480
      @origaminefretami3480 Місяць тому +1

      And dont forget the car is supposed to have a 620 mile range. Thats a huge battery.

  • @sanford195
    @sanford195 2 місяці тому +73

    I'm over Elon's attempt to once again make the ants scurry. It seems like every time he needs a stock bump or he's not the center of attention we get the Coming Soon shtick. Booooring.

    • @marceldiezasch6192
      @marceldiezasch6192 2 місяці тому +14

      Full self driving robo taxis have been coming next year for the past 11 years.

    • @Alexius1Komnenos
      @Alexius1Komnenos 2 місяці тому +10

      During the Semi reveal he said it would obsolete rail from day one. He loves to just lie like thay

    • @fabianfeilcke7220
      @fabianfeilcke7220 23 дні тому

      ​@marceldiezasch6192 You just don't get it. Musk is so genious, he not only invented the robot car,.but also the robo human. So you just can't see the robot cars because they drove away to live with their robot passengers

    • @DanDeGaston
      @DanDeGaston 17 днів тому +1

      SpaceX is going to fly missions from NYC to Shanghai in 29 minutes, It is happening in 2018! :)

    • @phdonme1
      @phdonme1 12 днів тому

      And coincidentally all of the executives who have recently quit cashed out around a quarter billion in stock.
      The same amount they took in for this roadster.
      Dudes going to jail for fraud
      On top of all the other bulshit he lied about

  • @hunternewberry5860
    @hunternewberry5860 2 місяці тому +3

    Your g force calculation ignores the standard 1 foot of rollout distance given to 0-60 times. Its extremely important as you get faster.
    The model S plaid with a 1.99s time gets up to 6mph in the first 1 foot of travel before the clock starts.
    Plaid really goes 6-60mph in 1.99s

  • @deathab0ve
    @deathab0ve 2 місяці тому +6

    When they unvailed the roadster they claimed it was 200kwhr with "Today's tech". They claimed they could do everything now.

    • @slopedarmor
      @slopedarmor 2 місяці тому

      They never mentioned 200kwh lol.

    • @nightshadowblade
      @nightshadowblade 2 місяці тому

      They claimed 200 kWh but not with the tech of 2017. Imho it will be more like 120-130 kWh when it comes out, with maybe an option for more.

    • @nightshadowblade
      @nightshadowblade 2 місяці тому +2

      @@slopedarmor At the event in 2017 Elon mentioned 200 kWh.

    • @deathab0ve
      @deathab0ve 2 місяці тому

      @@slopedarmor 32:23 second it is on the slide and Elon says it for the Tesla Semi and Roadster Unveil. So you are just wrong.
      @nightshadowblade I can't find the exact video. However I followed this shit hard, and he said the Roadster was able to do 200kwhr with current (at the time) battery tech and would not require the new cells.

  • @markyates5744
    @markyates5744 25 днів тому

    Cold air thrusters. The air was supposed to be pressured into a carbon wrapped pressure chamber at about 6000psi (crazy high) and if you want this package you lose the back seats. I can imagine 2 thrusters pointing down to give downforce. 2 pointing back to give back to improve acceleration. 2 up-front for braking. and 2 each side for steering.

  • @ROBIRUS24
    @ROBIRUS24 2 місяці тому +1

    A cool feature would be to somehow charge the compressed tanks from braking the car. Basically the inertual energy ofthe cars to stop will push air into the tanks abd charge the thrusters. It should be possible in theory. Even to push a slight amount of air inside it due to being high pressure would make that feasible. This would limit the possibility to use the thrusters very often but would not require charging anymore. And would use the kindetic energy lost when stopping the car either way. Instead of charging the batteries.

    • @nightshadowblade
      @nightshadowblade 2 місяці тому +1

      No need, the compressor will compress the air around the car for a while, to fill the compressed air tank and then that compressed air from the tank will be used.

  • @Aggie4life77
    @Aggie4life77 2 місяці тому +2

    Plaid is already doing 1.9 0-60. Other manufacturers are also getting those numbers now. It at that point where by the time that it came out, it won’t be anything special. This would have been cool back in 2020!

  • @Vahndamme
    @Vahndamme 2 місяці тому +8

    That 500 times comment had me cracking hahahaha

    • @DailyShit.
      @DailyShit. 2 місяці тому

      And so dumb because every new sportscar has that.

  • @skyblueo
    @skyblueo 2 дні тому

    I'm glad that Marques finally called the Cybertruck absurd.

  • @jlc012
    @jlc012 2 місяці тому +4

    Elon has been drinking the kool aid for some time now. I own a Tesla and love it, but someone has to pull the reins soon.

  • @edmondov
    @edmondov 2 місяці тому +11

    Elon full of promises

  • @calebleuciuc670
    @calebleuciuc670 2 місяці тому +20

    The roadsters main issue was the plaid coming out. O-60 in 2 seconds in the sedan set the bar so high they have to absolutely crush it to make the roadster really appeal

    • @MrRandomguyTom
      @MrRandomguyTom 2 місяці тому +24

      It's sad that people associate sport cars only with 0-60 time. You can have way more fun and better experience in slower cars, that handle well, are more agile, lighter and so on.
      Roadster still would make sense even with similar 0-60 time with model S.
      Roadster would be proper sport car, model S is just a fast sedan...

    • @AngryApple
      @AngryApple 2 місяці тому +16

      @@MrRandomguyTom exaclty, but what do you expect from MERICA where they literally only drive in a circle or on a straight line while racing?

    • @kingiam9271
      @kingiam9271 2 місяці тому +1

      Elon needs to pump tesla stock, he has to sell more shares to cover twitter

    • @Glock7eventeen
      @Glock7eventeen Місяць тому +1

      @@AngryAppleThe Model S Plaid, despite its enormous weight, can complete pretty much any track just as fast, if not faster, than a brand new Porsche 992 911 Turbo S which many people consider the “funnest, best handling” car on the planet.

    • @Glock7eventeen
      @Glock7eventeen Місяць тому +1

      @@MrRandomguyTomIt’s not about 0-60, this isn’t 2016 anymore. The Model S Plaid can go 0-200mph (300km/h) in just 14 seconds. In comparison a $400K 2023 Porsche 992 GT3 RS takes 25 seconds to hit 290km/h. The Plaid even has a higher top speed.

  • @theonlyqwert
    @theonlyqwert 2 місяці тому

    Makes more sense to aim the thrusters up and momentarily increase downforce in turns then to point them down and make it hop. could even thrust only on the inside of the turn to increase the grip on the inside unloaded tyres. But the point is mute, the size/weight of the tanks required to last a lap/multiple laps would be impractical, street use would be moronic. On board compressors would just make this worse.

    • @RIVERVIEWIAM
      @RIVERVIEWIAM 2 місяці тому +1

      This is so incredibly stupid.

  • @fxarts9755
    @fxarts9755 2 місяці тому +23

    i was very impressed with Teslas back then but man it's really just been one disappointment after another ever since... a delayed semi, very delayed and more expensive Cybertruck, full self-driving still not anywhere close to being a thing and then whatever happened to the roadster. and that all while the competition didnt sleep if not surpassed tesla...

    • @Jengo621
      @Jengo621 2 місяці тому

      Low effort bait post

  • @chakrameste
    @chakrameste 2 місяці тому +2

    Bet they will be ready by the end of the year... Like everything EM does.

  • @sidewalkere
    @sidewalkere 14 днів тому

    8:45 If you are going to put thruster on the car, you make them push the car *forward*, so you don't even have to worry about traction limits....

  • @teejayman215
    @teejayman215 2 місяці тому +19

    Tesla isn't Rivian lol.
    Rivian reveals and produces quality cars.
    Tesla reveals and produces hype

    • @rcmadiax
      @rcmadiax 2 місяці тому +2

      Love my Model 3, but everything they have announced and produced since the Y/3 has been a bust. Semi/CT/Roadster - all delayed and haven’t contributed anything substantial to the company.

    • @jessez8503
      @jessez8503 2 місяці тому +3

      @@rcmadiax You forgot the "Robo taxies," all of your Teslas should have been making you over 20K a year since 2020. How much money have you lost?

    • @kingoftherevolution4855
      @kingoftherevolution4855 2 місяці тому +2

      To be fair
      Rivian is literally ferrari
      And teslas biggest hype man is one of the few famous CEOs

  • @britishl0yalist810
    @britishl0yalist810 2 місяці тому

    I wonder if there using the cold air to turn the massive thing in a track because of how heavy it would be like add small amounts of lift to lesson weight to cut corners faster

  • @disfunctionalrobot
    @disfunctionalrobot 2 місяці тому +31

    Just wanted to say that the color grading in this video, especially on Miles, is excellent! As a person of color myself, I'm critical on how often color grading doesn't take into account darker skin tones. UA-cam channel editors are especially egregious here. Good job!

    • @nicholasfaber9695
      @nicholasfaber9695 2 місяці тому +11

      That has always been a point of discussion with Marques, pointing out how darker skin tones come out in phone cameras and such, with him being a person of colour its no surprise!

    • @sneauxday7002
      @sneauxday7002 2 місяці тому +1

      ... you do realize this is MARQUES' channel right?

    • @disfunctionalrobot
      @disfunctionalrobot 2 місяці тому +6

      @@sneauxday7002 I don’t know who edits these videos and I’m a pretty casual watcher. Just paying my compliments :/

    • @codycast
      @codycast 2 місяці тому

      Are you sure it’s not just good lighting and cameras?
      But then again, this looks like any other UA-cam video to me… so I don’t know what special “color grading” might be doing.

    • @kingiam9271
      @kingiam9271 2 місяці тому

      ​@@codycastexactly, looks like normal black guys in UA-cam 😒🤦

  • @gaxayalew119
    @gaxayalew119 Місяць тому

    It would be nice to see how tight the turns will be. There is the problem of the air jet denting nearby cars, or flesh. 😬

  • @jeromeanand
    @jeromeanand 2 місяці тому +12

    Guys, I think a half hour video can’t be called clips..😂

    • @Tetrathegod
      @Tetrathegod 2 місяці тому

      It can because it’s part of the video but it’s not the full thing , it’s CLIPPED

  • @CoderDBF
    @CoderDBF 2 місяці тому +1

    I don’t think the car will be able to jump. I think the thrusters are there to keep the car on the road instead, and perhaps help with the acceleration.
    I just don’t see much point to it otherwise, you’ll lose control of the vehicle and I doubt it’s capable of actually flying with cold gas.

  • @TheCannonMovement
    @TheCannonMovement 2 місяці тому

    I'm not sure who Miles is but he's awesome! Great addition.

  • @Jason-mk3nn
    @Jason-mk3nn 2 місяці тому +46

    Do you realize that Elon just got you to talk about this rocket vaporware for a half hour to millions of people? This is part of his mastery of performance and persuasion. Not saying it is bad, but just so you know that you totally just gave him free promotion to millions of viewers. (See MadMen's VW Bug scene).

    • @starmanxvi
      @starmanxvi 2 місяці тому +8

      ok?.. i dont think anybody cares bro

    • @sneauxday7002
      @sneauxday7002 2 місяці тому +2

      womp womp

    • @nicholasfaber9695
      @nicholasfaber9695 2 місяці тому +1

      @@starmanxviyeah exactly who cares lol

    • @SirVer51
      @SirVer51 2 місяці тому

      I get where you're coming from, but when even people like them who don't seem to hate Musk are saying to expect it in 2030 and only half joking, I don't know if that's particularly effective marketing for Tesla

    • @kingiam9271
      @kingiam9271 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@starmanxviit's hilarious watching all these people getting conned by musk

  • @DishNetworkDealerNEO
    @DishNetworkDealerNEO 2 місяці тому +1

    Technically, the Cold gas thrusters are still moving the car with electricity, since the compressor is powered by the battery power.

  • @retartedfreak
    @retartedfreak День тому +1

    I think this podcast has put more thought into the roadster than Elon or Anyone at Tesla

  • @SuchBigglesworthy
    @SuchBigglesworthy 2 місяці тому +6

    21:00 - the most powerful roller coaster launch in the world, Do-Dodonpa in Japan, is 0-112 mph in 1.56 seconds. No way the roadster is even going to sniff that acceleration. Still going to be super cool, though.

    • @aidilmubarock5394
      @aidilmubarock5394 2 місяці тому

      There's Speirling car that does 0 to 60 in 1,4 sec

    • @matteoalvarez5532
      @matteoalvarez5532 2 місяці тому

      @@aidilmubarock5394not sure what your point is, do-dodonpa still accelerates faster than that

    • @SuchBigglesworthy
      @SuchBigglesworthy 2 місяці тому

      @@aidilmubarock5394 Impressive. But it's still only about half the acceleration.

  • @sidewalkere
    @sidewalkere 14 днів тому

    6:46 Those thrusters are NOT CGTs. They burned hydrazine with nitrogen tetroxide. Most RCSs that actually reach space are not cold gas based (performance is kind of crap).

  • @idiNty
    @idiNty 2 місяці тому +2

    Are they maybe using the vacuum technique which is used in the world record car from ETH Zurich?
    This concept could fit in a street legal car and would be save also I think.
    Why do you think they would use something like rocket thrusters?

    • @zagreus5773
      @zagreus5773 2 місяці тому +2

      Because Elon called them rocket thrusters several times.

  • @travisherdt
    @travisherdt 2 місяці тому +5

    One of the biggest reason why the roaster has been delayed is the chief engineer who designed the new roaster left to work for Ford. It was a huge setback.

    • @joels7605
      @joels7605 2 місяці тому +5

      One of the biggest reasons is the laws of physics.

    • @travisherdt
      @travisherdt 2 місяці тому

      @@joels7605 physics check out chief and not just on paper, we have proof of concept.

  • @ivarwind
    @ivarwind 20 днів тому +1

    There's a big difference between using a cold gas thruster (i.e. a canister of compressed gas) to change the orientation of a rocket in free fall or give a light push to a maneuvering unit weightless in space, and then using the same technology to lift an entire car with a heavy battery in it off the ground in full Earth gravity - as in: the latter isn't going to happen. (Also it's an absurdly stupid idea to do it, even if you could)

  • @jairunet
    @jairunet 5 днів тому

    Miles Somerville 🙌 future MKBHD 🤛 natural talent dude keep it going ✌

  • @jacobfavreault4067
    @jacobfavreault4067 9 днів тому

    Since they announced the Roadster, Lucid designed, produced, and shipped the Air Sapphire which already achieved a 9.8 quarter mile and 1.86 0-60

  • @NarcisConstantinescu
    @NarcisConstantinescu 2 місяці тому +1

    Roadster with rockets will be like the Cybertruck boat, a fantasy.

  • @AP2780
    @AP2780 2 місяці тому +3

    Can’t wait to see it in the wild

    • @BCJDM
      @BCJDM 2 місяці тому +4

      You'll be waiting a long long time

  • @BounceIO
    @BounceIO 4 дні тому +4

    At this point, the scale of Elon Musk’s deception is huge and it would be awesome for MKBHD to do a bit of research and point it out. This is going to be at the scale of Enron.

    • @zaarkeru3391
      @zaarkeru3391 2 дні тому

      I mean, he dropped the "Model 2".
      The roadster could as well be dropped

  • @i_Nihil_i
    @i_Nihil_i 2 місяці тому

    Edit: It's titled "2020 spacex tesla roadster 0-60 in 1.1s!" and theres a watermark so it might be an edit.
    Theres a super grainy short that i come by every once in a while of a roadster with a spacex emblem on the back accelerating and its completely nuts

  • @geemy9675
    @geemy9675 2 місяці тому

    the noise wont be a probleme because it will only last for 1-2 seconds 😀 also a lot of sport cars have non legal exhaust noise when esxhaust valves are open. the worse will be the noise of the compressor inside the cabin...

  • @vitormoreno1244
    @vitormoreno1244 2 місяці тому +3

    What limits vehicle acceleration is the tires grip, you can't do 2G+ acceleration without F1 tires AFAIK

    • @antman7673
      @antman7673 2 місяці тому

      Yes you can. 2G is 20m/s^2.
      Old cars doing 0-100km/h(≈ 0-60mph) in 4 seconds, do more than 2Gs.
      Those cars are not having F1 tires.

    • @timehmann5789
      @timehmann5789 2 місяці тому +8

      @@antman7673 I think you messed up km/h and m/s there. 100km/h is 27.77 m/s. A car doing 0-100 in 4s is pulling 0.7g's. 2 g's gives you a 0-100 time of 1.4 seconds. Thats not achievable using normal road tires and even many trick tires without any downforce tricks.

    • @larryc1616
      @larryc1616 2 місяці тому

      Rear and side Gas thrusters lifts and levitates so the tires will not be doing all the work

    • @timehmann5789
      @timehmann5789 2 місяці тому +2

      @@larryc1616 sorry, but that makes no sense. The only way that gas thrusters will have an effect is when they point in the opposite direction of the direction in which you want to accelerate (they can be angled, but doesn’t make much sense. They are also beneficial when pointing upwards to generate downforce to increase tire grip, but again doesn’t really make sense for acceleration). Acceleration via tires is limited by grip only, not power. But you can add any type of additional acceleration force to the car that does not have to get translated to the ground via the tire. Pointing the thrusters down makes absolutely no sense at all for acceleration. It’s worsening it. Just think in the extreme. When the force of the thrusters is equal to the weight, the resulting weight of the car is 0kg and now trying to accelerate the car with the tires won’t even be possible because the tires are not able to put any force on the road because they will always just start slipping

    • @your_average_cultured_dude
      @your_average_cultured_dude 12 днів тому

      @@larryc1616 it is absurdly obvious that you have never studied ANY physics.

  • @Moray2023
    @Moray2023 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm fairly sure he was just planning on light weight re-bodying a model s plaid power train, now he's worked out that won't work.

  • @zinzinnatiohio
    @zinzinnatiohio 2 місяці тому

    They could probably do software like personal drones have that are blocked from operating in certain areas, certain times, and/or certain conditions.

  • @snakevenom4954
    @snakevenom4954 Місяць тому

    I'm not expecting anything out of this world with the Roadster. But if the base version can outperform a Bugatti Veyron, it will live up to its name

  • @ev3rybodygets177
    @ev3rybodygets177 4 дні тому

    what happens if you get in a accident with all that compressed air or if the battery catches fire?

  • @Mach1048
    @Mach1048 2 місяці тому

    The issue with a sub 1 Second 0-60 time at a Drag Strip is that Drag Strips have rules. A car with that engineering ability would need a *BUNCH* of safety equipment for a Drag Strip, so... even then, it can't be used?

  • @starlord8973
    @starlord8973 2 місяці тому +9

    IT WONT have the 500 Mile RANGE wasn't the CYBERTRUCK MENT to have a 500 MILE RANGE ?

    • @FabioRigokimbaorso
      @FabioRigokimbaorso 2 місяці тому +2

      One of the many many Musk lies ...

    • @nightshadowblade
      @nightshadowblade 2 місяці тому

      Agreed, it will probably have 400 miles instead of 621, but they might offer a range extender just like they did for the Cybertruck. With that the CT should be getting well over 400, maybe even 450+, so pretty close to 500.

    • @marceldiezasch6192
      @marceldiezasch6192 2 місяці тому +2

      Apparently the Semi has a 400 mile range fully loaded... with Cheetos.

    • @nightshadowblade
      @nightshadowblade 2 місяці тому

      @@marceldiezasch6192 Not true, fully loaded, at ~82000 lbs, it can do 500 miles at 55 mph with good weather. With bad weather and higher speeds the range will drop of course.

  • @bobbyt2012
    @bobbyt2012 2 місяці тому

    If you don't apply power through the tires, you don't really need to worry much about grip.

  • @JCintheBCC
    @JCintheBCC 11 днів тому

    Transport of compressed gas requires specific licensing. The SpaceX package would require specific licensing to drive on public roads, at the very least.

  • @Briggsian
    @Briggsian 2 місяці тому +3

    Engineering Explained did a great video on the feasibility of the thrusters a year or two ago. The tanks and compressor required would take up a significant amount of space (the entirety of the rear passenger volume) for what would amount to a gimmick. The thrusters would be exceptionally loud and illegal to use pretty much anywhere outside of select dragstrips.

    • @origaminefretami3480
      @origaminefretami3480 Місяць тому

      And on dragstrips, there are street cars doing 7 second quartermiles for years now.

  • @geemy9675
    @geemy9675 2 місяці тому

    finding clients for the 1s 0-60 spaceX package wont be the problem they will be low volume and very hard to get. any supercar is always much more sought after in the most radical, low production track version. they hold and even gain value WAY more than the base versions. they barely have 10hp more, some carbon fiber, louder exhaust and charge 50k or more for that
    the spaceX roadster would be a hugely collectible item even if the cold thrusters never get used because they're not practical.
    there's always people queuing instantly for any 500k+ super/hypercar

  • @TheAnonymous1one
    @TheAnonymous1one Місяць тому

    Cant imagine it being road legal. Imagine having tanks in back with thousands of psi in it. Crashing or wrecking and going off like a bomb.

  • @geemy9675
    @geemy9675 2 місяці тому

    pushing the car down doesn't require less horsepower to accelerate the car, actually slightly more. it just increase downforce, thus how much horsepower you can transfer from the tires to the ground. its like thinking putting a huge wing on your car is going to make it faster in a straight line
    also thrusters will generate a certain thrust that at a given speed could be expressed in horsepower, but thats not how you measure the performance of thrusters.
    the roadster without thrusters is advertised 1.9s 0-60mph, that is around 1.5G
    to fo under 1s, 2.8G, the spacex version will need at least 1.3G of thrust to go under 1s. I'm not even counting the weight of the system.
    if the roaster is about 5000lbs, that's about 65000lb of thrust, thus why the car would be able to fly if thrusters under the car have similar thrust
    if the exhaust velocity is around 600m/s which ive read somewhere, it would mean abut 100lbs of air being expelled every second.
    at 10000 psi that is ~50kg/s or 100lbs/s
    then you have to consider that when tank starts to lose pressure, gas wil exhaust slower, creating less thrust/ lb of air, so youd need probably double the amount of air in the tank (last half is not used. even at 10000psi that means 30 gallons air tank for 1 sec of thrust. the tank would hold 200lbs of air when full and be half empty after 1s (one 0-60)
    The biggest bottleneck will be the time (and energy) required to pressurize back the compressed air tank. also if the quicker the compressor, the bigger/heavier/noisier it will be.
    are you ready to lose dozens of miles of range just for one second of acceleration, and then hear a loud air compressor for 15 minutes? it's like filling a scuba tank, with a compressor, except higher pressure, and bigger. its a huge amount of noise & heat generated

  • @edudilascio
    @edudilascio 2 місяці тому +2

    Even if it does, it will be old news.

  • @genius1a
    @genius1a 22 дні тому

    That was a nice, relateable talk! My point of view is, that Tesla under Elon Musk was planning to do the Roadster 2.0, but as they learned more about R&D costs for their core mission cars alone, they found out, that they can not afford it so far. But they used the tech they had demoed and planned to put into the new Roadster into the Tesla plaid instead, as a preview and even more usable and volume selling replacement. As you pointed out - its as useless as most Hypercars in real life and there seems no reasonable way to actually use cold gas thrusters other than the short time downforce enhancing idea. To be honest: I hope the next Tesla Roadster 2.0 Tech demo will be showing an actually electric flying car with cool specs and design.

  • @alexmccamy6808
    @alexmccamy6808 20 днів тому

    Not me listening to this on my my way to get ingredients for shepherds pie.

  • @antonio_fosnjar
    @antonio_fosnjar 2 місяці тому +1

    Range will surely be max 400miles, realistically around 300miles. All the other specs seem to be in the realm of possibility for Tesla to execute.

  • @gautamknambiar
    @gautamknambiar 2 місяці тому +4

    When you have thrusters, you have free acceleration. Its not reliant on the grip of the wheels at all. The grip only matters when you're trying to provide acceleration through the tires, which thrusters bypass entirely.

    • @GoodlyPenguin
      @GoodlyPenguin 2 місяці тому

      My brain hurt just from reading that

    • @gautamknambiar
      @gautamknambiar 2 місяці тому

      Yeah the physics behind it is kinda fascinating @@GoodlyPenguin

  • @techxsplorer5081
    @techxsplorer5081 2 місяці тому

    Carlton and Will making a reunion episode

  • @Matt561
    @Matt561 2 місяці тому

    He wants the roadster to be the quickest to 60. So everytime someone like Rimac brings something out it's back to the drawing board.

  • @migmigjohnson9351
    @migmigjohnson9351 2 місяці тому

    To be fair, the 2020 launch date got interrupted by the deadliest disease the world had ever seen out of their computer. 100X deadlier than the black plague. With most employees of all companies dying in hospitals, how do you expect a 2nd Gen Roadster rollout? We're lucky enough employees were left to fulfill Model 3/Y orders.

  • @edolla6577
    @edolla6577 2 місяці тому

    can't wait to see MK fit in the Roadster..

  • @tmz_rsu
    @tmz_rsu 2 місяці тому

    It’s obviously easier to land a car than a rocket and the spaceX tech for landing rockets is incredible. When I saw Elon’s tweet that said this is gonna be the coolest tech demo ever, I just imagined them yeeting the car off a roof and it just uses the cold thrusters to re-orient and land itself on the stage. Now that would be cool.

  • @silverghini2629
    @silverghini2629 2 місяці тому +1

    Perhaps the roadster will have ground effects like the Gordon Murray T50 fan car?

    • @alesksander
      @alesksander 2 місяці тому

      I doubt that .But tho fan car is one most effective downforce generating techniques. I was of opinion that Tesla should do outsourcing for Roadster development. British car manufacturer wint any aero and racing car expeiences would be very welcome. Aero and sportcar design for track racing is very diferent beast that "just" drag racing and model S design of luxury car.

  • @adamarket
    @adamarket Місяць тому

    These conversations are very enjoyable. I'm not an engineering nerd and I'm on the wrong side of 50, but I enjoy this show immensely.

  • @djraxx068
    @djraxx068 2 місяці тому +1

    To all those who preordered the roadster: I got some nice beans for you, the grow a stock into the sky over night! Or how about my new „magic musk marvellous medicine“ elixir, made from only the finest rattlesnakes!

  • @bolbiitp7850
    @bolbiitp7850 2 місяці тому

    I literally made a 50k deposit towards the 2024 Roadster and still haven’t heard anything. Can’t believe they took my money 😤😤

  • @sarang_sheth
    @sarang_sheth 6 днів тому +1

    Will we get the Tesla Roadster before GTA6?

  • @SerendipitousProducts
    @SerendipitousProducts 23 дні тому

    Superman: Escape from Krypton may be the closest. It’s 0-100 in 7sec

  • @parker73724
    @parker73724 2 місяці тому

    The claim that this car can fly confirmed to me it's not real. Even if we suspended disbelief and imagined that somehow the cars can hold enough propellent to propel the car off the ground it will never be legal.

  • @delxinogaming6046
    @delxinogaming6046 2 місяці тому +1

    This episode begs for an @EngineeringExplained collab

  • @DenisKudlik
    @DenisKudlik 2 місяці тому +20

    It's Elmo. Of course he'll just be talking out of his ass. If he opens his mouth, assume he's lying.

  • @pauldobson9379
    @pauldobson9379 2 місяці тому

    Elon wasn't quite. He clearly stated, the Roadster would be more of the "Cherry on top project" and would need to wait for the other higher impact effects. Tesla is a public corporation and needs to focus on the balance sheet which a roadster won't impact much.

  • @rushtest4echo737
    @rushtest4echo737 23 дні тому

    The world's fastest accelerating roller coaster was just shut down and removed for breaking people's spines LOL

  • @lochlinrecht1427
    @lochlinrecht1427 2 місяці тому

    You can have non street legal features on a car but if used on the road it is illegal. Like the mustang gt500 track mode for its exhaust.

  • @KaiSosceles
    @KaiSosceles 2 місяці тому +2

    Why ship products when you can get risk free returns on your customers pre-order money?

  • @arthurogervais
    @arthurogervais Місяць тому

    The 911 Turbo S is only about 200kg lighter than a Model 3 Performance. The BMW M3 competition has about the same weight as a Tesla M3P.

  • @PotatosPotatoes
    @PotatosPotatoes 2 місяці тому +1

    The roadster will have rocket thrusters holding it to the ground and they will literally drive it upside down. That is the demo they have to be talking about.

  • @tannerbaer
    @tannerbaer 2 місяці тому +2

    The BYD Yangwang U9 can jump so if the Roadster doesn't hoover I don't care. I can see them using thrusters in a up-backwards direction like dragsters use their zoomie pipe to push the car into the ground. Still think the McMurtry Spéirling will be pretty hard to beat.

  • @alexandrumarinescu1
    @alexandrumarinescu1 2 місяці тому +1

    Maybe the SpaceX is just like a trim level, with just some space theme visual details.

  • @amzab123
    @amzab123 19 днів тому

    Maybe there are no motors on the wheels and instead there's front-facing fans powered by those same crazy motors. Sounds Aeronautical and would explain him saying '(...) if you can call it that.'

  • @robbierobinson5798
    @robbierobinson5798 2 місяці тому

    Yeah, it's never coming out how he said it would. Cold gas thrusters on a car to take off is a completely insane idea. The car will have a sub 300 mile range, will have an acceleration below 2 seconss but above 1, will cost $250,000 to $300,000, no full self driving, and thats it.

  • @BMWROYAL
    @BMWROYAL 2 місяці тому

    7:27 when it comes to 0-60 it’s about traction, not really horse power, you could give a car 6000hp, it’s not gonna be under a second

  • @danharold3087
    @danharold3087 Місяць тому

    Mate Rimac, CEO of Bugatti and Rimac, says that using thrusters to make a car go faster is possible, but it comes with its own downsides. He believes that thrusters are the only way to achieve acceleration from 0 to 60 mph in less than 1 second, but they create weight issues.

  • @JoeLancaster
    @JoeLancaster 2 місяці тому +4

    The SpaceX package will 100% never be road legal. For a start, those cold gas thrusters are SIGNIFICANTLY louder than jet engines, just in small bursts.

    • @marceldiezasch6192
      @marceldiezasch6192 2 місяці тому +6

      The SpaceX package will 100% never be a thing anyway.
      If you haven't learned by now that Elon just makes shit up, I can't help you.