Plot Twist: Noctua throws itself into the fray. Builds the most functional case ever reviewed. Everyone gushes over the functionality and its excellent efficiency regarding thermals.... ....and it's beige
If noctua actually made a case with their beige colours, It'd actually be pretty amazing, their fans would match at long last, and not to mention, in some houses with beige colour schemes it 'd fit right in!
Not only did you make the Noctua fan the center piece of the case, you made a noctua fan actually color match the entire case! The first Gamer Nexus case has done the impossible!
And we'll get to tell our kids of a time when "overclock ready" wasn't a thing and we just picked the one we though we could put a 480 in without burning the house down.
@@SometimesImaPenguin One step above mounting a motherboard with tape to a piece of cardboard hanging on the wall, and holding up its saggy gpu with a zap strap through a tape loop.
Yeah. As an earlier poster said, he is getting ad revenue from this video. On top of that, people in the market for a new case love videos like this because you have a smart guy who has done thousands of hours of testing telling you what NOT to buy and the reason for it. That kind of information is invaluable.
propeldragon everyone getting caught up that I said "free", I meant that this information is gathered and openly accessible to all the case companies to improve their products, in that he did the work, free to them. I know that Gamers Nexus gets paid in UA-cam ad revenue and they even had a sponsored pre-roll at the beginning of the video, i should have been clearer I guess.
Anybody who didn't understand the meaning of Nerd's initial comment should report to the Remedial Reading Center immediately. It's like being around a bunch of Biblical literal-ists.
We all love linus tech tips, bitwit, hardware canucks but let's be honest: Gamers Nexus is where we all go when we need an upfront and honest review that tells us EVERYTHING we need to know. These guys deserve more than 187k subscribers. Im going to buy a shirt...I never buy shirts. I was half naked, but now Im not, thanks GN.
Quality assurance seems like a steering committee job to me, where you are supposed to greenlight corrupt crap. The way the industry works, as a QA guy your job is to make sure the company's crappy-low quality standards are fulfilled, not to enforce the best quality possible. But hey, it's a problem affecting the whole business world: How many employees would love to and could do a much better job if they were allowed to, given the right tools and the time. Often when someone does a crappy job it might not be ineptitude, but lack of time allotted.
Fox Populi I don't know how we got away from the idea of getting as much air on hot components as possible. My first legit case was the Antec 1200. I could have stuffed all the clothes I own in that massive thing and I think all told it had nine 120mm fans and that 200mm fan on the top. I never felt hot air come out of that thing. It exhausted cool air unless I was stress testing, where it maybe got warm! And those were the days when components might be 30-40c warmer, on average. Now I somehow ended up with an S340 and while I like the compact size, that case blows balls. I hold everyone responsible for giving it good reviews. It blows.
R T I don't get why people bitch and moan so hard about airflow in cases. I currently own a H440 which is widely slated as having horrible ventilation, despite running two overclocked EVGA 1080 cards in SLI and running games at max settings in 4K it never throttles, crashes and is whisper quiet. All this without even having to run my fan curves to 100%. Cards are designed to run up to 70, 80 degrees and higher with no issues.
My first case, that I'm still using btw, is the CM Storm Enforcer. It has decent cable management and good airflow. Still haven't had a reason to upgrade even though its more than 7 years old. I was looking forward to the h500 but it was a bust. Best case right now in the looks/functionality department is the Meshify C. My case looks are outdated lol
During my last upgrade, it was the time when these tempered glass and RGB cases were getting dominant in the market. Thank God, a store still had a stock of an older case which prioritized airflow. I got that for a huge discount instead - half the price of these new cases - and I couldn't be happier.
It's supply and demand, not really a dictation of the market by the manufacturers. They've seen that tempered glass and RGB cases are popular and selling well and are joining in to make some money. I hate those cases personally as I don't want the distraction of lights, and I want as little EMF/RFI leakage as possible, so solid steel cases with good airflow but quiet are perfect for me. Looking at the Fractal Design XL R2 for my next build.
Manufacturers please take note, we need a case build for games who care about their end user experience doing what they've build the PC for, which usually is best performance in gaming. Sorry I don't look at my case while I'm busy playing, usually only when I turn it on.
After switching to a case that has a solid front rather than mesh, has made my gaming experience so much better as it is super quiet. All for a 1 degree rise in temps without any throttling.
I own the Thermaltake Core X9, I didn't just write that reply for myself, it was for manufacturers. I'd possibly get a new case but there aren't to many that support 480 Radiators.
Syraxal, there's the Phanteks Enthoo Primo that is 480 compatible, I have one, but... Yeah... It's huge and pretty heavy (20kg empty). Put in there a 420 Rad with optical cage on top (but you can go up to 480 if taking the Optical cage out), a 280 at the bottom, and a 120 radiator at the rear + add 2x 120mm fans + 2x 140mm fans at the front + the entire watercooling stuff... It's really, really heavy... I can't lift it up alone without insta-breaking my back :( But at least, it's super silent xD, I can only hear the HDD spinning and slightly the pump, even after hours of gameplay.
It should be COVERED in pucks. The case should be a puck Faraday cage that protects against lightning strikes and lets you save on OCP for your power supply
As someone currently dealing with a 18ºC GPU temp increase and a huge gpu fan noise increase after a case swap, I'm glad to see this video. You're one of the best tech youtubers out there, Steve
You guys seriously have some of the best content out there. No low-effort press-release pass-through here, you guys actually care and make an effort. Keep it up, please!
This video is spot on. My son bought a mATX Phantek Evolv which looks great but has a solid front panel with only a tiny air gap along the edges. He thought the temps were high and 3D printed some standoff’s that pushed the panel out by only 1/4”. The temps went down by 10 degrees! It didn’t change the look of the case much at all, in fact we preferred it. I suggested he sell them as accessories. Why would Phantek not figure this out themselves?
I bought a Phanteks P400S TG. My 7700k stock reached 80-85 degrees (C) with a h115i and maglev fans. When removing the front panel it dropped to around 60. So I took my multitool and cut 2 huge square holes in the front. I then put the included magnetic dust filters over the holes. Now my case get neither dusty nor warm. I was really disappointed about the choked airflow, and bad performance from phanteks.
2010 it was still new to have a black interior. I remember searching all over for black interior cases, not many until around 2011, they became mainstream.
strippers, do you realise, that by decreasing your closes by 5% where its crucial, you increase my bloodflow by 80%, which is huge, i hope you will adress this problem in the future
Well Becky has the largest chest size but the gyrations per second are higher on Elissa. Bambi is well rounded but when she talks the whole fantasy is blown. We went with Amanda, the girl next door with the right balance of performance across the board.
I wish more manufacturers would exploit the fact that hot air rises on its own. (Need proof? Check out the Albuquerque International Balloon Fiesta) If the path of ventilation is straight up, would not the fans (when necessary) simply be helping the natural flow? This also applies to heat sink fins---they should be vertical to maximize convection, as many designs do.
Real Talk with Steve. Important stuff here. Cases generally need to improve a LOT. So much trash lately, it's all bling and design - no performance whatsoever. A few good exceptions as you mention, but we deserve much more. I also wish the focus on RGB and glass would just die already.. Fine that there are options, but currently it's pretty much all we get. Glad we still have Be Quiet and Fractal Design. :)
osgrov you make it sound like today's pcs are incapable of running efficiently. I run an overclocked SLI 1080 setup gaming at 4K with all games running at maximum settings, I have a case that is widely regarded as having poor ventilation and yet it runs whisper quiet, no crashing, overheating or throttling. So tell me what your case with all its little holes everywhere gives you that mine doesn't, other than earache?
DigitalNow calling people liars when you don't know the facts makes you look like a tit. I play Battlefield 1, Battlefront, P Cars, FIFA 17, Doom, Battlefield 4, Forza. I don't disable anti aliasing and often run at 2-4 times. I use a Gsync monitor with my FPS games all running 60fps
DigitalNow you know fuck all about me and what knowledge I have based on two comments so drop the pretentious BS. What you've failed to deduce from my first comment is that I run all MY games at max, it's the context of the point I'm making and at no point am I implying that the two cards are capable of running every game.
Phanteks started full psu shrouds with the Primo in 2013. the Pro and Luxe were shown before the S340 and h440 came out in 2014. Corsair started cable management as we know it with the 800D in 2009.
I just wanted to say thanks for this video, finally someone that talks some sense! I completely agree with what you're saying, and I would add as well that tempered glass side panels and window side panels in general started the bad thermal trend for the air cooled video cards. I noticed this when I switched to the 780t from the cooler master 690 II: at the time I had a sli of 670 reference, and the temperature increased a lot making those cards throttling. That's why I did my first ghetto mod with 2 small aio's attached via zip ties. After that I switched to a single 980ti with a custom cooler (a gigabyte g1 gaming) and the card, albeit it was able to sustain the heat, it was way noisier than what I wanted. Therefore, I bought a 140mm fan bracket for a benchmark table and mounted it under the video card. The noise at that point was pretty sustainable and most of the time video card's fans didn't need to spin, but it made increase the cpu temps because the hot air was pushed through the top radiator destined to the cpu. After a while I decided that my system looked awful and the PC was not able to sustain its overclocks in the hot Italian summer, that's why I ended up water-cooling everything with a custom loop. After that, the dreaded maintaining started: and that's why I ask to the producers here to study a better way to keep the radiators in your pc clean, because if there is not enough room to use e.g. a vacuum cleaner to clean the fins, the only way to clean them is to tear down your whole system, and since radiators are dust magnets their fins need to be cleaned at least once every 2 months to stay optimal. An air can most of the time is not enough, it pollutes a lot, and will make a mess if you use it in a small room because you can't move freely your pc, (e.g. because it's water-cooled with rigid tubing and it's heavy). That's why something that I would love to see more is dual chamber chassis, those will be the answer for water cooling and air cooling. For air cooling it will separate gpus from the motherboard, hence there will be less heat for both, and for water cooling it could be a place to easily access radiators, not just one 360...which is not enough for high overclocks at 25C+ with decent noise levels. At this time the only two cases that actually follow these rules to my knowledge are the lian li PC-012 for air, and the Thermaltake tower 900. These are some original cases with ideas that needs a bit of refinement, to actually be gamechangers.
This is what makes Steve better than 99% of the other guys doing online reviews and rants about PC parts. He knows what he's talking about, and he deals with details. I'm still rocking a CM 692. Front mesh, 2x120mm intake, 2x120mm exhaust. It has a clean, subdued look, and flows very well.
One of the things that bugs me about modern cases is the small amount of HDD mounts. I have an older mid tower with 11 mounts, today you are lucky if you can get 4. Add in some removable HDD mounts, you don't need 11 of them, just add three to the top front or sell them separately to go with the 3 under the PSU shroud.
Agreed. Im often on headphones so loud fans aren't something that bothers me too much. All my hardware under load stays around 40-50c and a touch higher OC'd. I love my old 850D and it would need to crumble for me to get rid of it.
I remember taking a case back in the day and using a hole saw and those wire grills to add as many 80mm fans as possible. I had a case with 11 80mm blue led fans when 80mm fans were all that really existed. Sounded loud as hell but worked great and looked even better, it had a plexi window and I custom painted the interior with blue car paint. Even had 2 blue cold cathodes. I still use those exact same wire grills sometimes to mod cases, I will take airflow over anything even if it means I have to clean the dust out of my system more often.
I dunno I've gotten quite used to my Define Mini with noise dampening, and thermals don't seem too bad (though its my first aftermarket case so I have no point of comparison). My previous case was an HP Pavilion shell, real cheap with just super thin aluminum. Whenever I boot that system up it's so damn loud it bugs the hell out of me.
Having recently built a PC in an old Antec Solo (the original one), I can confirm that the changes made to case design in the following years were hugely beneficial. On top of what you mentioned, standard 120mm and 140mm fan mounting points in all cases made a huge difference, as did moving the PSU to the bottom and creating HDD sleds that could easily take laptop drives. Now though, I don't see any reason to move on from my Obsidian 550D (an older case now). The best evolution I have seen recently is the addition of SSD mounting on the sides of cases, but the fact is that I did the same thing with a few pieces of double sided tape. I WOULD like to see more 200mm fans, mesh fronts and removable fan grilles (I had to remove mine with a dremel, which was very much worth it). Those are the things that make me think about changing cases.
Good video, pointing out something that ironically no one else who reviews cases talk about. Keep up the good work, hopefully case manufacturers see it and take some of the good point made in the video into account and start making cases that not only look good but actually function too.
when i built my current pc about 2 years ago then noise and cooling was important for me and it was a struggle to find a good case until i came across the Silverstone Raven RV02 and i must say i am so happy with this case that i dont want to change it next year when i upgrade my system. also ive been wondering why there is so little information in the media about it and general testings and reviews. Anyway its nice to see another in depth and funny / informative vid from GN, have a good day :)
A GN case would be great because we know it would focus on performance while also trying to look good while also trying to give the user options while also trying to make life easier for the end user.......basically it would just be like sex if sex was a computer case
Steve : “making cases great again!” Sry, I don’t live in the US so that phrase is always good for a laugh *seriously you should “beta test” showroom cases before release*
Three years later and almost everything you mentioned has been adopted by some case or another. There's still bad ones, but y'all made a difference. Love ya
Wow, looks like H500P levels of build quality, there! In all seriousness, thank you guys for focusing on this issue with form over function. After watching your H500P review I noticed more and more how few reviewers are taking stuff like thermals into consideration with their videos, most just build in it and say what they like with a couple things they don't. This is how I ended up buying a Phanteks Eclipse P400TG. Agreed with reviewers that is looks good and is easy to work in, but the thing is an absolute hotbox with a Ryzen 1600X and undervolted Sapphire R9 Fury, which runs on the required custom fan curve with undervolting. I keep all 4 case fans (2 stock and 2 Silent Wings 3, all 120mm) and my Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi at 100% at all times because temperatures are so bad. I also keep the 1600X stock, which sits at 3.7 Ghz all cores rather than the 3.6 Ghz base clock. I tested my temperatures rather unscientifically using 1 round of 24 player team deathmatch in battlefield 1 with maxed settings with Cam's OSD running and noting the ballpark of the temperatures with all panels on, the front panel removed, and the front panel and side glass removed. With all the panels on I had around 68 to 69C on the CPU and 73ish on the GPU. Front panel removed dropped the CPU all the way down to 58ish and the GPU was barely above 60. Take the window off and the CPU further dropped by a couple C and the GPU never rose above 56C. I'm not suprised removing panels improves thermals, but i'm astonished at how much of a difference something as easy and quick as pulling the front panel off makes.
Keep it real man. Awesome video, it's important to try and keep the industry making forward progress. There was so much solid data in this video. My main beef is that I'm sure manufacturers either already know this stuff and don't care, or would rather wait until it becomes an issue, solve the issue, and present their newly "optimized" case as the best gaming case on the market.
You are a legend Steve! Surely these manufacturers are aware of most of this already but are more concerned about aesthetics being a selling point than actual performance.
Loving the modulation of those RGB led light strips also the dynamic case design changing in real time. W those tempered glass sides it's a true work of art
Thank you Gamers Nexus for stating (what should be) the obvious to chassis manufacturers - well done!! I'd love to get the Phanteks Evolv but the thermals suck hard with the top and front panels being mostly closed off. I live in an apartment so I can't be doing major modding with power tools (and we all know that drilling/ cutting through aluminium makes a hell of a racket), and don't want to spend a small fortune getting modded parts from across the border (Canada - US border).
i'm an IT technician and thank god someone finally spoke up about case design these days, the Infinity was the tipping point for me with that mirrored front panel that suffocated rigs, gross. Thanks Gamer's Nexus for being the level headed voice of consumers and the industry
There is a place for tempered glass and RGB.. why not BOTH???????? Tempered RGB glass! RGB inserted directly into the tempered glass.. it would be ballin. In fact.. have a tempered glass RGB mesh front panel!
Thank you so much for making this video! :) It was time to address this topic! In my eyes a case should have at least mounts for 2x 140mm in the front and top and 1x 140 in the back and in the bottom. Also all openings should be sealed against dust and have easy removable dust filters. I also have no problem with mesh because i use LED fans and i want them to be seen. Back in 2014 when i built my PC, i took the NZXT Phantom 630, because i wanted to air cool my system, so the 4 mounting spots for silent 200mm fans would be useful. I am satisfied with the case, especially with the 200mm fan mounted in the side panel blowing fresh air at my GPU and the dust filters everywhere. The only downside is the rather complicate cleaning of those filters and the front 200mm fan whitch is blocked half because of the designe choices NZXT made. Please Case Manufactures build cases that are good performing, easy to maintain and cool to look at. Everyone else sharing my oppinion here? :)
thanks for the video steve...it's a shame case manufacturers do not consult more with youtube reviewers like GN or hardware canucks etc, actualy doing something as simple as this would suerly be a win/win situation for the company, consumer and the reviewer....they surely have R'n'D departments at these companies...but as we all know the first and formost thing any company has to think about is profit....so do case manufacturers even care if their cases have issues...surely they must test them before release and just like you surely they know these cases have faults or issues before they give the go ahead to enter production....it seems odd how they will bring new cases and ideas to computex or whichever show...claim their case can do this and do that with blah blah thermals etc...yet when they arrive at the case reviewers door...there are always so much more issues found...just for once i would like to see a case manufacturer consult with a builder and get the cut outs,cooling,placement and everything else perfectly placed within a case
please elaborate...? edit: so i went to caselabs page...i must say they provide excellent cases for modders...but...dam they are plain as fuck looking at their cases all i see are straight rectangular chasis except for the bullet range but they are also ugly as fuck too because seeing those rivets on the side takes away from the aesthetic of the design...so modularity a score of 10, but aesthetics unfortunately a big fat 0
yes they seem very much for the ultimate PC builder/modder top of the range type of builders who take their cooling seriously and have no interest in aesthetics whatsoever...a shame caselabs do not bring in some designers to spice up their systems a little
because of the start of this video and the start of many GN videos that include fun like that, i sometimes can't tell if this is a comedy channel or not lmao
TheSaintST1 yes! I’ve tried other cases with my current 750d build including in a Fractal Define C TG and always go back to the 750d. 750d is a great case that just needs updated a bit. TG side panel, room for 3 140 fans up front and more sound damping options and the case would be king!
Great video. That H500P looks dope, but those temps....damn...I don't want to buy an expensive case and need to remove or cut some things off the front panel....
Cooler Master HAF Advanced is still one of the Dopest Mid Tower Cases. It's truly a complete package. One 200mm Fan on the front and another 200mm Fan on the top, No blockage what so ever. And above all else, it's got a 140mm Fan on left side panel window, blowing air directly to the GPU. I can bet it cools better than MasterCase H500P.
I've still got my HAF 932 Advanced with a FX 8150 and 970. I did have an H100i in it but replaced it with a Noctua NHD15 and a Noctua 200mm fan in the top of the case. Gave that to my father since I used my HAF-X case for my 8700k and 1070ti build. I would of got a 1080 but found a 1070ti for 420.00 a few months back. Either way, I doubt I will ever get rid of my HAF cases. The airflow is so good, especially for the gpu.
Cmon Nexus.. Just make a legit case already. There should still be a decent sized audience who favors function over looks. Make one that is completely silent (But probably will be hot as fawk inside the case with all the insulation lol) Then make one with the best airflow that gives you the best clocking speed (while still maintaining the case look, not one of those retarded looking skeletore transformers wierd looking case) Then the 3rd case that is in between both of those. Then just for the fuck of it, make one that is completely vertical that has a tiny foot print? lol
Candi Soda You can find all of these cases already! Just think: Cooler Master. Specifically the Master Box. It comes with Mesh or solid panels. You choose!
16:15 Speaking of inverted layouts and axial fan GPUs is there a good solution to keeping the GPU cool if the case doesn't have any fan mounts next to or above it? for example the TJ08-E would try a PCI fan but they seem to not exist anymore, just zip-tie 2 80mm fans to the ventilated PCI covers?
Wow this video really shocked me! I've always bought my case based on airflow rather than tempered glass and RGB. I'm surprised that others don't consider this. Still any PC is a compromise I guess. The best building advice I've ever had was, " work out out exactly what function you want your PC to fulfill, build accordingly" Even trying to do follow that can get tricky. It's made easier by your channel which I know does it's best to cut thru marketing speak and tell it like it is. While I don't agree with everything, I appreciate your efforts in providing clear, reliable information. Thanks.
Dear GN - GREAT content. And case manufacturers had really better take notice. One of Antec's best cases, the P100, was the result of consulting with Mike Chin of silentpcreview - and that case ended up being the pioneer in a whole lot of design tech - for example, bottom mounted PSUs - that we take for granted today. Personally, i'm focused on quiet computing and 99% of the cases i see are simply appallingly bad in this respect.
Plot Twist:
Noctua throws itself into the fray. Builds the most functional case ever reviewed. Everyone gushes over the functionality and its excellent efficiency regarding thermals....
....and it's beige
Mario With brown accents
Ha, more than likely, yes! They would probably call it the Desert Scorpion or something being brown and beige.
I’m ok with this
Comes with only hideous color schemes
If noctua actually made a case with their beige colours, It'd actually be pretty amazing, their fans would match at long last, and not to mention, in some houses with beige colour schemes it 'd fit right in!
I'm honored to have my prototype realized...into another prototype *sniff*
Is this prototype VR ready as well?
Ulric Gaming they havent found a vr ready sticker yet...
I laugh so hard on ur vid and now i cant stop laughing like the intro is killing it "its a prototype" :P
If they do find a VR sticker though they should include some lubricant as well. (If you know what I mean
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*TAKE IT TO MARKET*
Obviously, it is competitive.
I love how the prototype case progressively falls apart more and more as the video goes on.
Jarrod'sTech Finally a case that matches Noctua fans.
Haha, Noctua finally have more colour options available :) so the browns won't be the only option!
That's really insulting. Noctua fans are insanely good and we are finally getting colors!
It's a prototype
Its a feature!
Not only did you make the Noctua fan the center piece of the case, you made a noctua fan actually color match the entire case!
The first Gamer Nexus case has done the impossible!
Damn, outbid on another contract by Bitwit Technologies Group
lol. B)
Remember, it is still a prototype.
You can build a superior product: add another layer of glass on the outside of the fan so you can see the glass better.
You're slacking, man. Get with it!
you need to regulate, he will take over the world if you don't stop him!!!! ;P
I can already see “overclock ready” pc cases coming out in a near future.
And we'll get to tell our kids of a time when "overclock ready" wasn't a thing and we just picked the one we though we could put a 480 in without burning the house down.
From the near future: Nope.
"VR ready" PC cases.
@@SometimesImaPenguin One step above mounting a motherboard with tape to a piece of cardboard hanging on the wall, and holding up its saggy gpu with a zap strap through a tape loop.
This case has fantastic
OUT OF THE BOX THERMALS
Dick R ouch that hurt!
It's to make it cooler
lel xD
Pretty good pun, but it didn't blow me away
Funny stuff 👍
I would fund that on kickstarter
John Green kick farted
Good Guy Gamers Nexus doing the work for other companies FOR FREE to better all of us 🙌
Yeah. As an earlier poster said, he is getting ad revenue from this video. On top of that, people in the market for a new case love videos like this because you have a smart guy who has done thousands of hours of testing telling you what NOT to buy and the reason for it. That kind of information is invaluable.
He is the God of pc hardware
For free? Might want to rethink that.
propeldragon everyone getting caught up that I said "free", I meant that this information is gathered and openly accessible to all the case companies to improve their products, in that he did the work, free to them. I know that Gamers Nexus gets paid in UA-cam ad revenue and they even had a sponsored pre-roll at the beginning of the video, i should have been clearer I guess.
Anybody who didn't understand the meaning of Nerd's initial comment should report to the Remedial Reading Center immediately. It's like being around a bunch of Biblical literal-ists.
We all love linus tech tips, bitwit, hardware canucks but let's be honest: Gamers Nexus is where we all go when we need an upfront and honest review that tells us EVERYTHING we need to know. These guys deserve more than 187k subscribers. Im going to buy a shirt...I never buy shirts. I was half naked, but now Im not, thanks GN.
1.83 M now
You should fill the inside of the case with wall insulation to make it nice and quiet.
Nah, Sand Works Better
I hear that spray in foam works well
Asbestos: It's the insulation your Grandfather used
ahh good idea . . . WaterCooled™
crisray6789 LED Gypsum board when manufacturers?
Steve you could get a super high paying job in Quality Assurance lmao
Tech Showdown im quite sure he'd go highly underappreciated .
Tech Showdown I'm sure he loves what he's currently doing. Quality is cut for profit sometimes.
Tech Showdown love your channel.
Quality assurance seems like a steering committee job to me, where you are supposed to greenlight corrupt crap. The way the industry works, as a QA guy your job is to make sure the company's crappy-low quality standards are fulfilled, not to enforce the best quality possible. But hey, it's a problem affecting the whole business world: How many employees would love to and could do a much better job if they were allowed to, given the right tools and the time. Often when someone does a crappy job it might not be ineptitude, but lack of time allotted.
@@HAHA.GoodMeme ...qa jobs with companies that actually care about product standards are 100k+/or jobs, especially in tech.
Fucking FINALLY! This is the sort of critique of current case standards that I've been waiting to see.
Fox Populi I don't know how we got away from the idea of getting as much air on hot components as possible. My first legit case was the Antec 1200. I could have stuffed all the clothes I own in that massive thing and I think all told it had nine 120mm fans and that 200mm fan on the top. I never felt hot air come out of that thing. It exhausted cool air unless I was stress testing, where it maybe got warm! And those were the days when components might be 30-40c warmer, on average. Now I somehow ended up with an S340 and while I like the compact size, that case blows balls. I hold everyone responsible for giving it good reviews. It blows.
R T I don't get why people bitch and moan so hard about airflow in cases. I currently own a H440 which is widely slated as having horrible ventilation, despite running two overclocked EVGA 1080 cards in SLI and running games at max settings in 4K it never throttles, crashes and is whisper quiet. All this without even having to run my fan curves to 100%. Cards are designed to run up to 70, 80 degrees and higher with no issues.
My first case, that I'm still using btw, is the CM Storm Enforcer. It has decent cable management and good airflow. Still haven't had a reason to upgrade even though its more than 7 years old. I was looking forward to the h500 but it was a bust. Best case right now in the looks/functionality department is the Meshify C. My case looks are outdated lol
During my last upgrade, it was the time when these tempered glass and RGB cases were getting dominant in the market. Thank God, a store still had a stock of an older case which prioritized airflow. I got that for a huge discount instead - half the price of these new cases - and I couldn't be happier.
Literally the only reason I watched this was to see a cardboard box give better temps than a modern case. Unsubbing. poor effort Steve.
We could probably do that.
Gamers Nexus Please do!
But did you do it?
Byeeee
You would need some holes in the cardboard otherwise it would be bad thermal design. Cardboard is a nice insulator.
I fully support Steve's "Custom PCs for the homeless" Campaign.
I'm pretty sure those are only prototypes
Sure lock
Yes but the cardboard in use ends up in the garbage, where the homeless people can take them and use them to game!
"it's a prototype" make it a t shirt lol
That's a great idea. I would buy a GN t-shirt with a picture of that case on it. I hope they read your comment.
Steve wants manufacturers to think outside the box.
When does your case come to market? Finally, a case that actually matches the best fans on the market.
That's actually pretty funny.
I'm throwing my money at the screen but nothing's happening.
My computer only reacts if I throw gold bars at it... Paper or plastic has no effect at all.
I like your design, but there's no place for me to hang my headphones on. Perhaps a magnetic solution?
Puck off!
Hang them on the fan.
I was having trouble with my puck sticking to the tempered glass but duck tape solved that.
discostoo what's a duck tape though? do you have to squeeze some ducks to produce it?
This is one year late but...
You don't need to hang your headphones... You just put them safe and secure INSIDE THE BOX. XD
It's supply and demand, not really a dictation of the market by the manufacturers. They've seen that tempered glass and RGB cases are popular and selling well and are joining in to make some money. I hate those cases personally as I don't want the distraction of lights, and I want as little EMF/RFI leakage as possible, so solid steel cases with good airflow but quiet are perfect for me. Looking at the Fractal Design XL R2 for my next build.
Manufacturers please take note, we need a case build for games who care about their end user experience doing what they've build the PC for, which usually is best performance in gaming.
Sorry I don't look at my case while I'm busy playing, usually only when I turn it on.
After switching to a case that has a solid front rather than mesh, has made my gaming experience so much better as it is super quiet. All for a 1 degree rise in temps without any throttling.
Then buy a cheap case and remove the front panel
I own the Thermaltake Core X9, I didn't just write that reply for myself, it was for manufacturers. I'd possibly get a new case but there aren't to many that support 480 Radiators.
Syraxal, there's the Phanteks Enthoo Primo that is 480 compatible, I have one, but... Yeah... It's huge and pretty heavy (20kg empty).
Put in there a 420 Rad with optical cage on top (but you can go up to 480 if taking the Optical cage out), a 280 at the bottom, and a 120 radiator at the rear + add 2x 120mm fans + 2x 140mm fans at the front + the entire watercooling stuff... It's really, really heavy...
I can't lift it up alone without insta-breaking my back :( But at least, it's super silent xD, I can only hear the HDD spinning and slightly the pump, even after hours of gameplay.
Kikoo Kikaboo You can put even 2 480 rads in push pull in that case if you want.
RGB leds
I remember when I just bought a fan that lit up the color i liked and called it a day.
I hear you man.. Antec blue was my jam
No puck? WTF is wrong with you Steve?
It should be COVERED in pucks. The case should be a puck Faraday cage that protects against lightning strikes and lets you save on OCP for your power supply
Puck feet would have been pucking great.
Puck yeah
Arashmickey pucking disgraceful that they weren't included
Well, to be fair, cardboard aint that magnetic... :P lol
As someone currently dealing with a 18ºC GPU temp increase and a huge gpu fan noise increase after a case swap, I'm glad to see this video. You're one of the best tech youtubers out there, Steve
Leonardo Schefeer what case? What is your fan layout? Do you use fan curves? Open or closed GPU?
Well.. #savagesteve is back.
joris yauw savage Steve never left
You guys seriously have some of the best content out there. No low-effort press-release pass-through here, you guys actually care and make an effort. Keep it up, please!
"...It's a prototype."
XD
This video is spot on. My son bought a mATX Phantek Evolv which looks great but has a solid front panel with only a tiny air gap along the edges. He thought the temps were high and 3D printed some standoff’s that pushed the panel out by only 1/4”. The temps went down by 10 degrees! It didn’t change the look of the case much at all, in fact we preferred it. I suggested he sell them as accessories. Why would Phantek not figure this out themselves?
CASE in point,
air flow SUCKS
(I worked really hard on this one)
blondbassist i liked this comment out of pity
you did good mate...
I feel like we should call the pun police though...
Hey at least it doesnt blow!
I'll see myself out now.
I love how you aren't afraid to call out companies for doing dumb things. Great video.
That case uses the most advanced cardboard for optimal green air! The first 100% recyclable computer case!
Aren't most cases made almost entirely of metal? The most recyclable material next to asphalt.
Tempered glass tho
Your case design is going to work poorly because you used an airflow fan on the front instead of a static pressure fan
I bought a Phanteks P400S TG. My 7700k stock reached 80-85 degrees (C) with a h115i and maglev fans. When removing the front panel it dropped to around 60. So I took my multitool and cut 2 huge square holes in the front. I then put the included magnetic dust filters over the holes. Now my case get neither dusty nor warm. I was really disappointed about the choked airflow, and bad performance from phanteks.
same experiance with the evolv TG, modding it soon
Tomas van eccelpoel You really should, made alot of difference. Otherwise phanteks makes beautiful cases.
kinda scared to fuck it up tough,. drilling 20MM holes in aluminium can be tricky its the last thing i want to try (but i will try it)
You got pictures? I'm intrigued.
drive.google.com/open?id=0Bw6PZkWCiFL7aUNBNmE3MEo4TGc
Yes, sure. Not the best pics but you can see the principle.
2010 it was still new to have a black interior. I remember searching all over for black interior cases, not many until around 2011, they became mainstream.
Imagine Steve trying to hire a stripper ... I have numbers and data on ALL of you!
strippers, do you realise, that by decreasing your closes by 5% where its crucial, you increase my bloodflow by 80%, which is huge, i hope you will adress this problem in the future
Марат Пират we're looking for that bloodflow/clothes sweetspot
Cost/blood flow ratio?
he would be doing god's work, so I suggest we give him a break
Well Becky has the largest chest size but the gyrations per second are higher on Elissa. Bambi is well rounded but when she talks the whole fantasy is blown. We went with Amanda, the girl next door with the right balance of performance across the board.
November 2020: "Guys, we're finally considering to turn this prototype into an actual product."
nexus where the hell did you get the same case as me!
I wish more manufacturers would exploit the fact that hot air rises on its own. (Need proof? Check out the Albuquerque International Balloon Fiesta) If the path of ventilation is straight up, would not the fans (when necessary) simply be helping the natural flow? This also applies to heat sink fins---they should be vertical to maximize convection, as many designs do.
Real Talk with Steve.
Important stuff here. Cases generally need to improve a LOT. So much trash lately, it's all bling and design - no performance whatsoever. A few good exceptions as you mention, but we deserve much more.
I also wish the focus on RGB and glass would just die already.. Fine that there are options, but currently it's pretty much all we get. Glad we still have Be Quiet and Fractal Design. :)
osgrov you make it sound like today's pcs are incapable of running efficiently. I run an overclocked SLI 1080 setup gaming at 4K with all games running at maximum settings, I have a case that is widely regarded as having poor ventilation and yet it runs whisper quiet, no crashing, overheating or throttling. So tell me what your case with all its little holes everywhere gives you that mine doesn't, other than earache?
DigitalNow calling people liars when you don't know the facts makes you look like a tit. I play Battlefield 1, Battlefront, P Cars, FIFA 17, Doom, Battlefield 4, Forza. I don't disable anti aliasing and often run at 2-4 times. I use a Gsync monitor with my FPS games all running 60fps
DigitalNow you know fuck all about me and what knowledge I have based on two comments so drop the pretentious BS. What you've failed to deduce from my first comment is that I run all MY games at max, it's the context of the point I'm making and at no point am I implying that the two cards are capable of running every game.
DigitalNow you have Natalie Imbruglia videos on your UA-cam channel, I don't think you're in any position to throw those accusations around.
Phanteks started full psu shrouds with the Primo in 2013. the Pro and Luxe were shown before the S340 and h440 came out in 2014. Corsair started cable management as we know it with the 800D in 2009.
I just wanted to say thanks for this video, finally someone that talks some sense!
I completely agree with what you're saying, and I would add as well that tempered glass side panels and window side panels in general started the bad thermal trend for the air cooled video cards. I noticed this when I switched to the 780t from the cooler master 690 II: at the time I had a sli of 670 reference, and the temperature increased a lot making those cards throttling. That's why I did my first ghetto mod with 2 small aio's attached via zip ties. After that I switched to a single 980ti with a custom cooler (a gigabyte g1 gaming) and the card, albeit it was able to sustain the heat, it was way noisier than what I wanted. Therefore, I bought a 140mm fan bracket for a benchmark table and mounted it under the video card. The noise at that point was pretty sustainable and most of the time video card's fans didn't need to spin, but it made increase the cpu temps because the hot air was pushed through the top radiator destined to the cpu.
After a while I decided that my system looked awful and the PC was not able to sustain its overclocks in the hot Italian summer, that's why I ended up water-cooling everything with a custom loop.
After that, the dreaded maintaining started: and that's why I ask to the producers here to study a better way to keep the radiators in your pc clean, because if there is not enough room to use e.g. a vacuum cleaner to clean the fins, the only way to clean them is to tear down your whole system, and since radiators are dust magnets their fins need to be cleaned at least once every 2 months to stay optimal.
An air can most of the time is not enough, it pollutes a lot, and will make a mess if you use it in a small room because you can't move freely your pc, (e.g. because it's water-cooled with rigid tubing and it's heavy).
That's why something that I would love to see more is dual chamber chassis, those will be the answer for water cooling and air cooling. For air cooling it will separate gpus from the motherboard, hence there will be less heat for both, and for water cooling it could be a place to easily access radiators, not just one 360...which is not enough for high overclocks at 25C+ with decent noise levels. At this time the only two cases that actually follow these rules to my knowledge are the lian li PC-012 for air, and the Thermaltake tower 900. These are some original cases with ideas that needs a bit of refinement, to actually be gamechangers.
maybe a Silverstone ft02 is all you need
It's a really interesting case and it's different but there is not enough space for my watercooling needs
This is what makes Steve better than 99% of the other guys doing online reviews and rants about PC parts. He knows what he's talking about, and he deals with details. I'm still rocking a CM 692. Front mesh, 2x120mm intake, 2x120mm exhaust. It has a clean, subdued look, and flows very well.
Finally a case made for noctua fans
One of the things that bugs me about modern cases is the small amount of HDD mounts. I have an older mid tower with 11 mounts, today you are lucky if you can get 4. Add in some removable HDD mounts, you don't need 11 of them, just add three to the top front or sell them separately to go with the 3 under the PSU shroud.
I’m seriously glad I prioritize thermals over noise. Noise doesn’t bother me too much. Grew up with screamer machines.
Agreed. Im often on headphones so loud fans aren't something that bothers me too much. All my hardware under load stays around 40-50c and a touch higher OC'd. I love my old 850D and it would need to crumble for me to get rid of it.
I remember taking a case back in the day and using a hole saw and those wire grills to add as many 80mm fans as possible. I had a case with 11 80mm blue led fans when 80mm fans were all that really existed. Sounded loud as hell but worked great and looked even better, it had a plexi window and I custom painted the interior with blue car paint. Even had 2 blue cold cathodes.
I still use those exact same wire grills sometimes to mod cases, I will take airflow over anything even if it means I have to clean the dust out of my system more often.
fourtysix4646 80mm blow holes? Why not 120mm 12v industrial fans have been with us for a lot of years!
I dunno I've gotten quite used to my Define Mini with noise dampening, and thermals don't seem too bad (though its my first aftermarket case so I have no point of comparison). My previous case was an HP Pavilion shell, real cheap with just super thin aluminum. Whenever I boot that system up it's so damn loud it bugs the hell out of me.
I thought I was the only one.
Having recently built a PC in an old Antec Solo (the original one), I can confirm that the changes made to case design in the following years were hugely beneficial. On top of what you mentioned, standard 120mm and 140mm fan mounting points in all cases made a huge difference, as did moving the PSU to the bottom and creating HDD sleds that could easily take laptop drives.
Now though, I don't see any reason to move on from my Obsidian 550D (an older case now). The best evolution I have seen recently is the addition of SSD mounting on the sides of cases, but the fact is that I did the same thing with a few pieces of double sided tape.
I WOULD like to see more 200mm fans, mesh fronts and removable fan grilles (I had to remove mine with a dremel, which was very much worth it). Those are the things that make me think about changing cases.
When and where can I get one of those GN/BitWit prototype cases cases?
I love it when you just totally go off about something and I can tell about the passion driving you
Noctua fan on a case?!?!?
5/7, Would buy for all my systems
Good video, pointing out something that ironically no one else who reviews cases talk about. Keep up the good work, hopefully case manufacturers see it and take some of the good point made in the video into account and start making cases that not only look good but actually function too.
Is this an upcoming Noctua case you made a prototype of?
when i built my current pc about 2 years ago then noise and cooling was important for me and it was a struggle to find a good case until i came across the Silverstone Raven RV02 and i must say i am so happy with this case that i dont want to change it next year when i upgrade my system. also ive been wondering why there is so little information in the media about it and general testings and reviews.
Anyway its nice to see another in depth and funny / informative vid from GN, have a good day :)
I'm 5 minutes in, and I just want to say, I'm down for a gamers nexus case. Please put the GN logo on the front. ❤
A GN case would be great because we know it would focus on performance while also trying to look good while also trying to give the user options while also trying to make life easier for the end user.......basically it would just be like sex if sex was a computer case
I like you. You are literally the least annoying person on a tech channel that i've come across, and are great to watch educationally.
Steve : “making cases great again!”
Sry, I don’t live in the US so that phrase is always good for a laugh
*seriously you should “beta test” showroom cases before release*
This is proably one of the best pc tech videos I've ever seen.
Proper journalism if you ask me. Massive thumbsup.
I mean hey it worked, Mesh is back baby!
Three years later and almost everything you mentioned has been adopted by some case or another. There's still bad ones, but y'all made a difference. Love ya
So this is what the GN case could look like! #2020
We're all really lucky to have you guys in the PC community. Keep up the stellar work!!!
Thank you Youpoop recommendations, haven't watched this since a few days after release 👍
To be fair, not much has changed apparently 😄
First time checking you out. You really know your stuff, very comprehensive and based on real world conditions.
I'll be sure to tune in again. Thanks.
Function > Form
Or, you could buy the Meshify C and get both
Wow, looks like H500P levels of build quality, there!
In all seriousness, thank you guys for focusing on this issue with form over function. After watching your H500P review I noticed more and more how few reviewers are taking stuff like thermals into consideration with their videos, most just build in it and say what they like with a couple things they don't. This is how I ended up buying a Phanteks Eclipse P400TG. Agreed with reviewers that is looks good and is easy to work in, but the thing is an absolute hotbox with a Ryzen 1600X and undervolted Sapphire R9 Fury, which runs on the required custom fan curve with undervolting. I keep all 4 case fans (2 stock and 2 Silent Wings 3, all 120mm) and my Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi at 100% at all times because temperatures are so bad. I also keep the 1600X stock, which sits at 3.7 Ghz all cores rather than the 3.6 Ghz base clock.
I tested my temperatures rather unscientifically using 1 round of 24 player team deathmatch in battlefield 1 with maxed settings with Cam's OSD running and noting the ballpark of the temperatures with all panels on, the front panel removed, and the front panel and side glass removed. With all the panels on I had around 68 to 69C on the CPU and 73ish on the GPU. Front panel removed dropped the CPU all the way down to 58ish and the GPU was barely above 60. Take the window off and the CPU further dropped by a couple C and the GPU never rose above 56C. I'm not suprised removing panels improves thermals, but i'm astonished at how much of a difference something as easy and quick as pulling the front panel off makes.
aged well.
Keep it real man. Awesome video, it's important to try and keep the industry making forward progress. There was so much solid data in this video. My main beef is that I'm sure manufacturers either already know this stuff and don't care, or would rather wait until it becomes an issue, solve the issue, and present their newly "optimized" case as the best gaming case on the market.
Bitwit Technology Group are the leaders in case design
You are a legend Steve!
Surely these manufacturers are aware of most of this already but are more concerned about aesthetics being a selling point than actual performance.
Almost 2 years later and still nothing has changed, case design have been standing still since the last millenium.
Loving the modulation of those RGB led light strips also the dynamic case design changing in real time. W those tempered glass sides it's a true work of art
36 CoolerMaster engineers disliked this video.
Badass video, man! Love it when there's numbers to back up your point, and they're accurate.
10/10 the gamer nexus case get on the hype train
Thank you Gamers Nexus for stating (what should be) the obvious to chassis manufacturers - well done!!
I'd love to get the Phanteks Evolv but the thermals suck hard with the top and front panels being mostly closed off.
I live in an apartment so I can't be doing major modding with power tools (and we all know that drilling/ cutting through aluminium makes a hell of a racket), and don't want to spend a small fortune getting modded parts from across the border (Canada - US border).
I have to give it to ya, when I opened the video, I laughed
i'm an IT technician and thank god someone finally spoke up about case design these days, the Infinity was the tipping point for me with that mirrored front panel that suffocated rigs, gross.
Thanks Gamer's Nexus for being the level headed voice of consumers and the industry
Hey Steve, are you guys doing a review for the NZXT H700i soon?
This^
Will be, yes.
Gamers Nexus when?
Bendinglez this is the review!
Thank you brother
Good video. I have never once thought about this issue so I'm glad to see GN shining some light on it.
-Mom can we get a case?
-No, we have a case at home
Case at home: ⬆️
September 2021, still waiting for the GN PC Case...
June 2023, still waiting for it lmao
September 2023, still waiting
There is a place for tempered glass and RGB.. why not BOTH???????? Tempered RGB glass! RGB inserted directly into the tempered glass.. it would be ballin. In fact.. have a tempered glass RGB mesh front panel!
lmao
DoctorWho8675309 wow i bet corsair is sending you a job offer right now
Bitwit will be contacting you soon.
RGB inside tempered glass mesh sounds like the future.
a rgb'ed temperedglass with ventholes...
brilliant!
Thank you so much for making this video! :) It was time to address this topic! In my eyes a case should have at least mounts for 2x 140mm in the front and top and 1x 140 in the back and in the bottom. Also all openings should be sealed against dust and have easy removable dust filters. I also have no problem with mesh because i use LED fans and i want them to be seen. Back in 2014 when i built my PC, i took the NZXT Phantom 630, because i wanted to air cool my system, so the 4 mounting spots for silent 200mm fans would be useful. I am satisfied with the case, especially with the 200mm fan mounted in the side panel blowing fresh air at my GPU and the dust filters everywhere. The only downside is the rather complicate cleaning of those filters and the front 200mm fan whitch is blocked half because of the designe choices NZXT made. Please Case Manufactures build cases that are good performing, easy to maintain and cool to look at. Everyone else sharing my oppinion here? :)
im willing to pre order this GN case if only has good
OUT OF THE BOX THERMALS
Antec 900...I remember drilling a 1&1/2" hole in it to route cables through after becoming fed up with that thing's cable management.
thanks for the video steve...it's a shame case manufacturers do not consult more with youtube reviewers like GN or hardware canucks etc, actualy doing something as simple as this would suerly be a win/win situation for the company, consumer and the reviewer....they surely have R'n'D departments at these companies...but as we all know the first and formost thing any company has to think about is profit....so do case manufacturers even care if their cases have issues...surely they must test them before release and just like you surely they know these cases have faults or issues before they give the go ahead to enter production....it seems odd how they will bring new cases and ideas to computex or whichever show...claim their case can do this and do that with blah blah thermals etc...yet when they arrive at the case reviewers door...there are always so much more issues found...just for once i would like to see a case manufacturer consult with a builder and get the cut outs,cooling,placement and everything else perfectly placed within a case
Lars loves Tech one word, Caselabs.
please elaborate...?
edit: so i went to caselabs page...i must say they provide excellent cases for modders...but...dam they are plain as fuck looking at their cases all i see are straight rectangular chasis except for the bullet range but they are also ugly as fuck too because seeing those rivets on the side takes away from the aesthetic of the design...so modularity a score of 10, but aesthetics unfortunately a big fat 0
Lars loves Tech well I don't know too much about them other than they specialise in modular cases that have excellent airflow.
yes they seem very much for the ultimate PC builder/modder top of the range type of builders who take their cooling seriously and have no interest in aesthetics whatsoever...a shame caselabs do not bring in some designers to spice up their systems a little
because of the start of this video and the start of many GN videos that include fun like that, i sometimes can't tell if this is a comedy channel or not lmao
I have a Corsair Obsidian 750D Airflow.
I have no problems.
The end...
TheSaintST1 yes! I’ve tried other cases with my current 750d build including in a Fractal Define C TG and always go back to the 750d. 750d is a great case that just needs updated a bit. TG side panel, room for 3 140 fans up front and more sound damping options and the case would be king!
Great video. That H500P looks dope, but those temps....damn...I don't want to buy an expensive case and need to remove or cut some things off the front panel....
Your prototype looks like it was designed by Cooler Master.
Supermassive Gaming Modular
I really appreciate how in-depth and thorough your videos are. Keep up the good work!
I would buy a shirt from Gamers Nexus that just said, "It's a prototype."
Cooler Master HAF Advanced is still one of the Dopest Mid Tower Cases. It's truly a complete package. One 200mm Fan on the front and another 200mm Fan on the top, No blockage what so ever. And above all else, it's got a 140mm Fan on left side panel window, blowing air directly to the GPU. I can bet it cools better than MasterCase H500P.
I've still got my HAF 932 Advanced with a FX 8150 and 970. I did have an H100i in it but replaced it with a Noctua NHD15 and a Noctua 200mm fan in the top of the case. Gave that to my father since I used my HAF-X case for my 8700k and 1070ti build. I would of got a 1080 but found a 1070ti for 420.00 a few months back. Either way, I doubt I will ever get rid of my HAF cases. The airflow is so good, especially for the gpu.
Cmon Nexus.. Just make a legit case already. There should still be a decent sized audience who favors function over looks.
Make one that is completely silent (But probably will be hot as fawk inside the case with all the insulation lol)
Then make one with the best airflow that gives you the best clocking speed (while still maintaining the case look, not one of those retarded looking skeletore transformers wierd looking case)
Then the 3rd case that is in between both of those.
Then just for the fuck of it, make one that is completely vertical that has a tiny foot print? lol
Candi Soda You can find all of these cases already! Just think: Cooler Master. Specifically the Master Box. It comes with Mesh or solid panels. You choose!
If you have seen other GN videos you know tooling costs to design a case are in the hundreds of thousands lf dollars right?
He'd first need a small loan of a million dollars
Just get a core p5
Just moved into a Core P5. Super happy with it.
16:15 Speaking of inverted layouts and axial fan GPUs is there a good solution to keeping the GPU cool if the case doesn't have any fan mounts next to or above it? for example the TJ08-E
would try a PCI fan but they seem to not exist anymore, just zip-tie 2 80mm fans to the ventilated PCI covers?
Computer cases have asthma these days.
PCEnlightenment you mean seizures?
Marshall Chandra
pretty sure he means asthma
No I mean asthma I'm having the seizures looking at it.
PCEnlightenment You mean COPD? Asthma is having problems with exhaling (exhaust), while COPD is more with inhaling (intake).
Brecht Schatteman. Yeah copd
Wow this video really shocked me! I've always bought my case based on airflow rather than tempered glass and RGB. I'm surprised that others don't consider this. Still any PC is a compromise I guess. The best building advice I've ever had was, " work out out exactly what function you want your PC to fulfill, build accordingly" Even trying to do follow that can get tricky. It's made easier by your channel which I know does it's best to cut thru marketing speak and tell it like it is. While I don't agree with everything, I appreciate your efforts in providing clear, reliable information. Thanks.
Get snowflake to put a paw print on that case and it will sell like crazy.
Dear GN - GREAT content. And case manufacturers had really better take notice. One of Antec's best cases, the P100, was the result of consulting with Mike Chin of silentpcreview - and that case ended up being the pioneer in a whole lot of design tech - for example, bottom mounted PSUs - that we take for granted today. Personally, i'm focused on quiet computing and 99% of the cases i see are simply appallingly bad in this respect.