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  • @thehibib
    @thehibib 5 місяців тому +55

    hitch feels so much stronger with engagement ring ngl. Had a great run with Hestia on torches with Hera.

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 5 місяців тому +2

      hitch was always strong with scorch. it is just that hitch required you to use normal attack or special to apply it meaning that smoldering ring was only reliable source of scorch. I don't know why but smolder ring this patch feels pretty bad. No clue if tick rate for scorch changed but the ring barely applies any scorch now.

    • @thehibib
      @thehibib 5 місяців тому

      @@dodang_9147 hmm, I don't think the tick rate changed but the damage rate got buffed, maybe it just applies less now?

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 5 місяців тому +1

      @@thehibib i don't know but the smolder ring cast feels bad to use now. on a side note, does air quality improve scorch anymore? with 80 damage scorch, what is raw value of damage for debuff now?

    • @deejaydee1578
      @deejaydee1578 5 місяців тому

      @@dodang_9147 it does improve it but not as much. If I remember correctly before with 40 damage scorch it ticked every 0.25 seconds so 10 damage would get buffed to 30 from air quality. Now it's from 20 to 30 so not as good

    • @ruxbon
      @ruxbon 5 місяців тому

      ​@@dodang_9147it's not that smolder ring started applying less scorch, it's the fact that scorch now deals more dmg/s, exhausting itself faster
      and before the buffs, scorch dealt 5 damage every .125s to equate to 40 dmg/s, now it's doubled, so that's 10 dmg per tick, meaning, air quality triples this dmg, now

  • @paulkyle
    @paulkyle 5 місяців тому +32

    Haelian took engagement ring and then in every encounter in mourning fields he didn't put it down

    • @CaileanMacLean
      @CaileanMacLean 5 місяців тому +14

      Remembering mint condition required 100% of his brain power so he couldn't also remember engagement ring

  • @josepass2563
    @josepass2563 5 місяців тому +42

    That beginning is WILDDD

    • @Zyruvias
      @Zyruvias 5 місяців тому +1

      I still haven't recovered yet 😭

  • @Razarex
    @Razarex 5 місяців тому +8

    'Attack' on the post screen is all of the explosions from Moros including Omega Attack explosions. Most underrated aspect in the game.

  • @xJustForKiicks
    @xJustForKiicks 5 місяців тому +57

    Strong start to a video LMAO Love your content

    • @papertiger4525
      @papertiger4525 5 місяців тому

      What did Haelian mean by this 🤔

    • @Zyruvias
      @Zyruvias 5 місяців тому

      my dik plastik

  • @joshuaanderson6492
    @joshuaanderson6492 5 місяців тому +29

    Have there been any Dan Grill updates lately? I've been feeling ill and haven't been able to keep up with all the VOD's.

    • @joshuaanderson6492
      @joshuaanderson6492 5 місяців тому +7

      You should try cleaning the grill with an oiled up halved onion. I don't like using wire brushes since the cheap ones sometimes have bristles fall out and stick to the grill, and it sucks getting stuck in the mouth with one. Plus you get a little residual onion flavor for a meal or two!

    • @aaronsmicrobes8992
      @aaronsmicrobes8992 5 місяців тому +5

      ​@@joshuaanderson6492 definitely agree about brush type. I have one that's a thicker wire coiled up like a spring and held in a weird shape that can get between the grates. It's cleaner, more effective, and won't shed bristles. They aren't expensive either, less than 20$, and they last for many years.

    • @joshuaanderson6492
      @joshuaanderson6492 5 місяців тому +7

      @@aaronsmicrobes8992 Neat! I've never seen those before. I'm still sticking with my onion, though, from a flavor perspective. ;)

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  5 місяців тому +2

      I'll try to work in some grill sagas soon.

  • @holynder3181
    @holynder3181 5 місяців тому +2

    0:14 How soon is “soon” because I want to see that apology video.

  • @mcTenro
    @mcTenro 5 місяців тому +1

    Hera and Apollon duo could be something like "Dodged attacks inflict damage to the enemy instead. + X% daze and hitch effect"
    Seems more "thematic" between daze and hitch.

  • @jesserizzle
    @jesserizzle 5 місяців тому +17

    I stand with Support Fire

  • @Crowbar
    @Crowbar 5 місяців тому +8

    I dont understand why you dislike lucid gain, it seems really good. You dont have to stand around or wait, you fight until your cast runs out and instantly get 100 magick. That seems almost as good as old born gain. Also imagine combining lucid gain with geyser ring or whatever where omega cast immediately explodes?

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 5 місяців тому

      i feel like all mana boons are kinda crap now because Unseen arcana card is better than all of them. it used to cost 5+5 points to use unseen and Celene's hexes. now it just cost 5 and you get both.. I have been running health on area(though time-stop should be used IF you put fear with 0 healing on), 40 health+40 max mana, Death defiance, and both reroll arcana's. It seems like new meta arcana deck. You get divination for epic's by running 3rd row with origination filled. I also run that huntress boon where you gain 50% damage if max < 100%. This seems like new meta arcana deck that much better than rest. The only thing i wish i could change was guardian arcana card where you don't get hit for first 3 hits for Artificer, but 3 hit negative is so overpowered in fear 32 that it is hard to not use because it is like effective 100 extra hp for every guardian fight. It is like too good to unequipped sadly.

    • @Crowbar
      @Crowbar 5 місяців тому +11

      @@dodang_9147 all mana boons are crap? The fuck? Born gain is still good, the new ionic gain is fantastic. Spirit bubble also was always good, still is. Lucid gain is great too. Because the arcana card got buffed doesnt make mana boons worse, since they dont exclude each other... why not both lel

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 5 місяців тому

      @@Crowbar ionic gain is born gain 2.0. gives near infinity mana. I think early mana boons are borderline throw away boon. Mana doesn't have as much of an impact as before because of fear change that makes you start with 50% mana and unseen arcana card. You don't really need mana as much anymore. Mana boon is more luxury pick now.

    • @ruxbon
      @ruxbon 5 місяців тому

      ​@@dodang_9147idk, I'd say unseen is more usable now but I still think there are better cards to choose from, not to mention that this regen isn't enough in builds that use magick too fast
      if you *really* want to activate The Moon, you could instead use Night and/or Death, but none of that matters if the game doesn't even offer you enough Selene, if at all
      magick boons are quite diverse now, being useful in different scenarios and even unlocking other useful boons, and while it does mean you're not choosing something dmg oriented, it's not uncommon to reach situations in which you have so many already that more boons don't even matter, so that magick boon generally isn't a wasted reward

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  5 місяців тому

      Did I say I dislike it? I think it's fine.

  • @stratovolcano7813
    @stratovolcano7813 5 місяців тому +2

    I'm not even a speedrunner but white antler was for sure my fav keepsake, I used it for almost every run for at least one reigon. Kinda funny that the theory is people didn't use white antler so they nerfed it but I do agree it was broken as fuck. Honestly I'm not mad about the 30 life cap (just means it's activated 100% of the time cmon now) but it's the fact you can't use it for a whole run anymore that gets me 😂

  • @doubleagenthapa6292
    @doubleagenthapa6292 5 місяців тому

    I tested out Engagement Ring last night (Heroic, thx Phial keepsake) and laughed maniacally as the little speedy fish in Oceanus died right as they spawned

  • @DavidBeaumont
    @DavidBeaumont 5 місяців тому +1

    Engagement ring rules. I just did an Engagement Ring / Golden Rule run with Mel Skulls and ended up with 1200 per normal hit (9460 gold), clearing rooms in Tartarus in seconds.

  • @tylord2897
    @tylord2897 5 місяців тому

    With regard to the dps meter at the end, I think the game considers all moros explosions as attack damage, even if they come from an omega attack. I’m not sure if it only considers it like this for the dps meter or if it also considers it that way for the huntress though.

  • @primatch777
    @primatch777 5 місяців тому

    I would say that Zeus cast + Apollo buffs are stronger because you can make Zeus lightning even more stronger wit his boons, also cast is bigger which speeds up chamber runs.

  • @goatmeal5241
    @goatmeal5241 5 місяців тому +1

    Huh, cast damage didn't show up on the end screen at all. I imagine the hitch damage counts as whatever type triggered the hitch, but the on-entry damage at least should be cast damage.

  • @reyvansc
    @reyvansc 5 місяців тому +4

    whats the difference between pre patch engagement ring and the new one?

    • @burntpotatoes999
      @burntpotatoes999 5 місяців тому +6

      iirc it doesnt increase duration, but it inflicts hitch on all spawning enemies

    • @tokkibokki_
      @tokkibokki_ 5 місяців тому +3

      pre-patch didnt apply hitch

    • @abdulazizmohammed8797
      @abdulazizmohammed8797 5 місяців тому +3

      No duration increase makes it better ngl

    • @leojones1964
      @leojones1964 5 місяців тому +1

      summed up: new engagement ring = no plus duration, also applies hitch

    • @reyvansc
      @reyvansc 5 місяців тому

      yeah the cast inflicting hitch makes it a lot better now

  • @SyntheticaYT
    @SyntheticaYT 5 місяців тому +1

    What’s generating the massive single target damage? Weapon aspect? What does it do?

  • @landonkenney7283
    @landonkenney7283 5 місяців тому

    Trying to imagine someone watching speedruns of Hades 1 early access and getting mad that you always go Artemis dash attack spread fire

  • @AzemSP
    @AzemSP 5 місяців тому

    Why is Support fire a trap boon?

    • @Haelian
      @Haelian  5 місяців тому

      It's often weaker than Artemis' other offerings (crits are extremely strong).

  • @wildstorm3486
    @wildstorm3486 5 місяців тому

    I mean Born Gain is still rather strong.
    Even at common where is primes 20 magic.
    If you have 100 magic. It means you have 300 magic.
    That’s still good. Grab yourself a few max magic rewards and put a Pom or two into born gain and you are all set.

  • @ArtFr0g0
    @ArtFr0g0 5 місяців тому

    Holy shit engagement ring looks insane

  • @supertech104
    @supertech104 5 місяців тому

    Hera is my personal favorite with aspect of Artemis. The shared damage from hitch is way to powerful for crowd control. Its almost like cheating.

  • @Annokh
    @Annokh 5 місяців тому

    Damn, so much of that damage is just vanilla torches, basically...

  • @yuzu6663
    @yuzu6663 5 місяців тому

    engagement ring my beloved

  • @RedDiomedes
    @RedDiomedes 5 місяців тому

    I wish they would rework the Hera and Zeus legendary. Giving up half your build never seems like it would be worth it.
    In fact Hera cast and Zeus legendary must be one of the best combos in the game

    • @dodang_9147
      @dodang_9147 5 місяців тому

      they just need to change the word from sacrafice to "gain boons == to number of boon from Zeus/Hera". this is also ONLY boon that has negative that actively detriment the player into losing nodes. There are other boon that have negatives like +10 mana cost but this one removing your entire boon is kinda ridiculous. The drawback of the boon is what makes it useless. Hera has similar thing with Family trade and Hestia has one for burnt offering but it is only one boon and it can be a useless one. the duo actively destroy your build.

    • @RedDiomedes
      @RedDiomedes 5 місяців тому

      @@dodang_9147 at the very least it should replace a core boon like attack, special, cast with the Hera equivalent.
      Still I think that’s probably too damaging except for rare circumstances. As you agreed it can offline your whole build. Duos with other gods deactivate, possibly lose origination.
      Also increasing levels of boons have diminishing returns as well. The flavor is funny the gameplay aspect is just bad.

  • @axllow3914
    @axllow3914 5 місяців тому +1

    My question about White Antler is, if the change doesn't matter to 90% of the playerbase, why did they change it?

    • @axllow3914
      @axllow3914 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@GoXDS I guess they want it to be used more, but I doubt it will honestly

  • @aadityayanamandra8846
    @aadityayanamandra8846 5 місяців тому

    Dan, what was that intro///

  • @keystonelyte
    @keystonelyte 5 місяців тому +1

    Lucid Gain on Charon is straight busted

  • @Purgingcrab
    @Purgingcrab 5 місяців тому

    Sweet

  • @emberisk
    @emberisk 5 місяців тому

    But what about Support Fire and Air Quality is that a trap

  • @MarioSchier-l9z
    @MarioSchier-l9z 5 місяців тому

    lmao love it

  • @b4ttosai
    @b4ttosai 5 місяців тому

    :)